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Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ mvy angela ye Charlemagne the guy. We

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Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We have a special guests in

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Speaker 1: the building. The legend Kevin Low's welcome brother was good.

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Speaker 1: What's good? How my guys? Girls doing? You really got

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Speaker 1: the big cigar early in the morning. It's breakfast. It's

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Speaker 1: my it's my my coffee. Man y y'all drink coffee.

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Speaker 1: You know I smoke cigards. The whole case, you know,

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Speaker 1: the case is down stairs. I got fifty in the car.

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Speaker 1: You know how much one of those cars? But this

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Speaker 1: one is forty nine dollars. And what is that? It's

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Speaker 1: an adda back. It's an ADDI back. Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: like my new thing that I do and I love.

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Speaker 1: Everybody got their vices and this is just one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I've taken up and become a connoisseur. True, true.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, on a sad day, we want to

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Speaker 1: start with one of the groups that you first signed

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Speaker 1: to me. Man, one of the members Takeoff was killed. Uh,

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Speaker 1: people that don't know. I just want to go back

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Speaker 1: to what made you first signed Megos? What in the

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Speaker 1: Meagles that made you sign them. Talk about his personality

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people just won't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: but listen, I and you know how I feel when

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Speaker 1: you have a great partners And UM, first of all,

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Speaker 1: my candolences to his family, UM to the Megos and

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Speaker 1: um QC coach and PUM. I know what it is

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Speaker 1: since you know I've been in the bin for forty

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Speaker 1: years to lose an artists and employee, m a family member,

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Speaker 1: and he was all those things. UM to them H

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Speaker 1: And as I came up here to talk about protecting

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Speaker 1: black art, I still got to talk about protecting us.

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Speaker 1: And I think, UM, we're putting ourselves in a situation

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Speaker 1: where we're not humanizing everyday lives. You know where we Yes,

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Speaker 1: we we are superheroes, but we're still human. And stage

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Speaker 1: names are one thing. But you're somebody's son, give somebody brother,

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Speaker 1: you somebody's aunt, and a life taken too short. You understand.

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Speaker 1: I literally just went through this with Rock. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. And these are not people that I

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Speaker 1: and so UM, I didn't sign me goos. I work

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Speaker 1: with coaching p and to develop a group that became

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Speaker 1: now we're sitting here today saddened by another unnecessary loss

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Speaker 1: that's happening far too too much, in my opinion, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's based on a lot of things. Um, COVID,

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Speaker 1: people coming outside of COVID, lack of education, constant oppression,

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Speaker 1: constant um of the gun law, is not getting passing

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Speaker 1: the right where it's like, there's a whole host of things.

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Speaker 1: But more point, that's somebody's son. It's not hitting them

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Speaker 1: more man. And you know, I got I got a

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Speaker 1: twenty four year old you're in Uh, it's sad, sad,

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Speaker 1: you know, to your point, there's so many socioeconomic conditions

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Speaker 1: that you know, just lead to crime or lead to

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Speaker 1: putting people in that state of mind with something like

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Speaker 1: that can happen. But you know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: feel like the hip hop, the music you know is

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Speaker 1: has become has either become always been a deaf lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: What do you say to that? Um, I live it,

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Speaker 1: and UM, I haven't killed anybody, and I consume more

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you that, UM, there's an issue.

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Speaker 1: Um that UM it's it's black on black crime. Because

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Speaker 1: we were taught to be um against each other. I

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Speaker 1: more than you. That's not that's hip hop. That's what

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Speaker 1: we've been taught in an oppressive country. That you know,

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Speaker 1: the things that that we shouldn't value. Life um like

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Speaker 1: that music kills no gun kills, lack of education, education kills,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe hip hop kills people. I believe people

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Speaker 1: for people too, for the artists, for the people that

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Speaker 1: And if you think about it, I think as we

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Speaker 1: about these massacures that happened. I'm not talking about one

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Speaker 1: That's not hip hop. That's not right. That's that's that's

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Speaker 1: it's racism. It's it's it's it's things that people have

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Speaker 1: years and we're still still mask in conceration. And you

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Speaker 1: guess the difference isn't. Uh, this is what we're here

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Right. Some people would be like, well,

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Speaker 1: other people don't put it in their music. They don't

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Speaker 1: art that they create. Well, what about Johnny Cash? What

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Speaker 1: know what, you tell your story. So there was a

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Speaker 1: it's a rap song. Which one did people say offended

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Speaker 1: You gave me the country lyrics, and technically it was

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Speaker 1: step further. There's been a study five hundred cases where

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Speaker 1: but did the person really kill somebody though? Okay, and

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of the people didn't didn't kill people. Ship

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Speaker 1: they're talking about is entertainment. Listen if you want to

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Speaker 1: even they're using this racial biased thing to scare jurors,

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Speaker 1: Well how about this Atlanta. They've been Fulton County, they've

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Speaker 1: We're talking about lyrics here. Let's talk about because a

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Speaker 1: Actually the lyrics should be able to be talked to

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Speaker 1: the laws that have been that's the laws that that's

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Speaker 1: want the news every single day. But I believe that

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Speaker 1: of us who play what there's no wars that ever happened,

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Speaker 1: about um, Tony soprano. Let's talk about scar face. That's

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Speaker 1: what you are all still fictional things. We know, it's

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Speaker 1: With what I'm saying is there was a scar face.

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Speaker 1: It might not have been named scarface, but there was

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Speaker 1: There was a Tony soprano it might not have been

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Speaker 1: in that pere. There was a wire. I lived it.

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Speaker 1: So these things have happened. It's just that we've been

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Speaker 1: programmed to say that is that, and this is this,

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Speaker 1: and Freddie Merker, you could say you shot a man,

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Speaker 1: that's to watch him down. You can say that, but

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Speaker 1: you can't say that in your music. That's the issue

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Speaker 1: here is I think we've been programmed in a way

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Speaker 1: to think it's not all creativity. And again I preface

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Speaker 1: anti Semitic rhetoric. I'm against discrimination. I'm against us not

425
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: focusing on us being one human race. And so when

426
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: you see someone going through what he's going through, you

427
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: have to allow that moment to I'm sure enough people's

428
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: talking to him to put him in the place. Kanye's

429
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: not fighting with the world. He's fighting himself right now.

430
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: And the best position that I think we need to

431
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: do for him is to provide love and guidance, and

432
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: the love and guidance has to come from different places.

433
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: It doesn't come from turning people down, you know, it

434
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 1: comes from helping them understand where they are in life

435
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: and helping them get to the right. Because Kanye has

436
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: helped more people than he's hurt. I think the rhetoric

437
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: is wrong and what he's trying to accomplish is a

438
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: better way of accomplishment. And everything doesn't have to be

439
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: for the media. Things should be able to happen behind

440
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: closed doors. And you guys know, we've moved a lot

441
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: of things that you guys have not even heard about

442
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: because we have the relationships on all sides. I want

443
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: to go back to protect black God thing. How much

444
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: of the focus is being put on the artists to

445
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: not record records about their criminal activity, I don't. I

446
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: don't think. Um if if I knew an artist was

447
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: a criminal, a drug deal a murderer, I think that's

448
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: a different conversation. But if I if I, if I'm

449
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: with an artist and he's around certain things and that's

450
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: that's his environment, broken, he poor, and he's prolific, I

451
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 1: want to help him change the narrative of his family

452
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: and his life. And I also want to have the

453
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: conversations that I have with a lot of the ogs

454
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: that we have to do better and we have to

455
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: be in their life, um not move out of their

456
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: life constantly and check them sometimes, but also listen to

457
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: him and so that that is. You know when I

458
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: when I turned fifty, I said, I want to listen,

459
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: I want to learn, I want to lead, and I

460
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: want to love. And if it don't fall in those things,

461
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm just not about it. Do you ever teach? Of

462
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: course you teach, but I'm talking about like you do

463
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: come from that era of Public Enemy, You do come

464
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: from the era of socially conscious music. Do you ever

465
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: tell these artists like, hey man, you might want to

466
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: try to do a bigger picture. Look how many records

467
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: Kendrick's so old? Look what j Cole is doing? You

468
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: have you ever done that? I never say emulate, always

469
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: say tell your truth. And I believe that. Uh. You

470
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: know if I would have went to Public Enemy and

471
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: told Chuck your right, fight the power or n W

472
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: a right, No, no, you could these things. These are

473
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: moments in time that a record was written. But if

474
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: Marvin write what's going on that that don't come from

475
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: a space of being told what to do. And I

476
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: don't believe my job is to tell him what to do.

477
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: My job has provide them by the means and the

478
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: education and the resources to tell their truth. And that's

479
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: what I promote it tell your truth. And if your

480
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: truth is what you saw, what you did, how it was,

481
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: just tell your truth because those things are the things

482
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: that are gonna bring and change people's lives. What we

483
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: didn't ask how is stuck and gonna doing? Like? How

484
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: are they doing? I mean you speak to them daily,

485
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure how are they doing? How was they mental?

486
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: How are they holding up? How how would they feeling?

487
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: Because they you know, they see it from a different side. Uh,

488
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: don't don't, please, don't take this the wrong way. But um,

489
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: I can't normalize jail. I can't normalize right yo, not

490
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: talking to your kids, your mother's sick, not being able

491
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: to take us something. I can't normalize how you feel?

492
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: How would you feel behind it? I know how I feel.

493
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: And if I couldn't talk to my kids, I couldn't be.

494
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: My father's suffering through funnel little with dementia, hasn't talking

495
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: two years. I can't be there for his last day,

496
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: my one of my biggest I'm gonna come out a

497
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: little keep passed. I can't be at the funeral, I

498
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: know I would feel so I will never normalize that

499
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: those four walls and that's that hold too many black

500
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: and brown people, uh, for racists and white supremacy and

501
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: all the things that the oppression that's been put on myself. People,

502
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: how's your man in jail? He's in jail like he

503
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty three and one that he was down

504
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: for twenty three he couldn't come out. So I'm trying

505
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: to change that for him and all that. Yeah, listen,

506
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: as we don't if you know, if the people don't know,

507
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: we don't and if we don't even know how how

508
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: people don't even know how to fight, like how to

509
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: stand up, like how they competition, how could they be

510
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: a part of it? You know? Yeah, I think one

511
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: of the things that we have to do, if the

512
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: midterms coming up next week, we have to vote. We

513
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: have to get out and put people in the places

514
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: that understand who we are, why we are, and the

515
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: things that we need. You know, we have laws that

516
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: are still in place for hundreds of years ago that

517
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: they think they should work in twenty twenty two. My

518
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: cell phone from ten years ago don't work the same

519
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: way my new cell phone work. So why should we

520
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: change these laws for what we are right now for

521
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: for twenty two and beyond. And I just look at um,

522
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: what can you do today? I think you need to

523
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: go and make noise about this, this racist act, because

524
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 1: it's not only affecting Listen, how about this in New

525
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: York that's awarded somebody for the Malcolm X thirty six

526
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Listen, this is not about lyrics. This is

527
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: not about rapmeo. This is about a racist system, justicism

528
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: that's put there to put more brown and black people

529
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: in jail. So this is bigger. This is about you

530
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: getting out and vote. This is about passing legislation and

531
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: pushing your congressman, your senators, your mayors, your governors to

532
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: help us protect black art. And I'm not talking about music, guys,

533
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about your art, your art, your art. I'm

534
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: about to protect us, protect us, but we also got

535
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: to protect us from us. We gotta protect ourselves. We

536
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: gotta protect ourselves. So you think gonna will get out

537
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: next time on bail because I know we've been hopeful

538
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: and it's been what four times now, right, yeah? Yeah.

539
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: The I am hopeful that UM the judge will look

540
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: at these past six months and see that these guys

541
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: are not the reason crime is what it is in Atlanta.

542
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that um now the lead prosecutors left and

543
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: they got they're regrouping, they're trying to push the case back.

544
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm hoping that UM the judge or see

545
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: through this whole lyric thing and allow them to have

546
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: a fair trial. That the thing is, I don't I

547
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: don't mind going to trial. I don't mind because I

548
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: think the guys that I know, that's not what they do,

549
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I don't mind going

550
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: to trial. But I'm what I mind is the racial

551
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: bias that's happening because of the music and how the

552
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: guys look. So do I think he's going to get out?

553
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: I pray, Angela. I pray every day. I pray every

554
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: day for God to have an understanding and to give

555
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: the understanding to the judge and even the prosecutor, because

556
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't think this is even worth They're going to

557
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: trial for Godda. I wonder if the fact that you

558
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: have like all of these different reco cases happening in

559
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: Atlanta is hurting the wire Sel case because you do

560
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: have a whole other group who were actually rapping about

561
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: home invasion and stuff. So sometimes when you hear it,

562
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: you just feel like it's all blurred if you're just listening,

563
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, in the public. Yeah. Again, but our justice

564
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: system shouldn't be blurred, and that this is the this

565
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: is the problem. This is And so if you think

566
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: about the actions that are being taken, and you think

567
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: about this this one area, we're gonna clean Atlanta, not

568
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: not not not in my my my account, it was

569
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of things that we need

570
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: to do where it's not locking up entrepreneurs, not locking

571
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: up record labels. Again, anybody who commits a crime, I

572
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: think they should be given a free trial also, but

573
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: I think if they're rapping about it, they snitching on

574
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: it on themselves, and those those lyrics should be presented

575
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: to the judgs be used evidence. But you can't just

576
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: say because I'm I'm want to go to war like Russia,

577
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: that I want to go to war in Atlanta. Like No,

578
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: it's just that it makes no sense. What they're saying,

579
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: So I don't believe that. I do want to also

580
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: to what changed in hip hop, because it's not like,

581
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, gang affiliation is new the hip hop, So

582
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: why all of a sudden now it's like, okay, now

583
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: this leads to ricos where the number one music in

584
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: the world. When you're number one, it's so many things

585
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: go at you, and so so many things are heightened

586
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: right now. I don't believe we're be able to pass

587
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: the legislation that we passed if we want the number

588
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: one music in the world. I think you would have

589
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: people scared to even come on with the movement if

590
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: you want the number one music in the world. But

591
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: it's no denying who we are. While we are, you

592
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: have to address the issues right now, and we're in

593
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: the position where we can hold people accountable. You know,

594
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: back when I was young, cav I couldn't. I couldn't

595
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: say I was trying to come up. Now, I don't care.

596
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do say due to me. I

597
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: care about my people. I've always cared about my people,

598
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: and I care about to a point right now where

599
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't mind being on the front line and taking

600
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get our people to understand that

601
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: all we want is a free an opportunity to be

602
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: judged like everybody else and not be persecuted because the

603
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: color of our skin or the lyrics that we wrap you. Um,

604
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: I heard that You're which is so it's like full circle, right,

605
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: your executive producing the Milli Vanilli biopic. I heard that. Yeah,

606
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean you know, I want to I want to

607
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: make sure that you get the story right. You know

608
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: I got I got I protect I gotta protect that

609
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: black art, black art. Even if he didn't sing, I

610
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: gotta protect that black art. You wrote a song that million.

611
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: Can you break this down for people who don't know

612
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: I was sixteen telling this story idea? Yeah, I was

613
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: sixteen in love, wrote a record, put it out, sold

614
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand copies. You know it's true. Yeah, Gary

615
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: knows too. Two years later, I'm watching MTV and somebody

616
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: video comes on. I never made a video and it

617
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: was Milli Vanilli and it's sold eighteen million copies. It's

618
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: the only reason I'm in I would have still wanted

619
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: to if I would have made it, I still would

620
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: have probably want to be in the music business. The

621
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: only reason I've got into the business of music. It's

622
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: because I never wanted that to happen to another artist,

623
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: because it changed a life in a lot of way,

624
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that opportunity.

625
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: So how did that come about? Because I don't know,

626
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people are too young to remember, but

627
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: milliev Nilly was a joke for a long time and

628
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: they blew up. But then it became like this big

629
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: joke because actually taken his own life. Yep. Was it

630
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: because of that? Was because because actually couldn't he couldn't

631
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: handle what was going on. But you have to say,

632
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm put it into perspective. They sold eighteen million copies

633
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: of one single. They were the biggest group at the

634
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: at that time, they were the biggest, the biggest group.

635
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: You couldn't tell him anything. They would It was sex, drugs,

636
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: rock and roll, all the things that you want to

637
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: talk about. And when that's taken away from you and

638
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: people and you know you're trying, but you got caught

639
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: up in the in the system and the hype. Um,

640
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: some people can't deal with it the same way. And

641
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: so again I wish they would have took my call

642
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: back then. Because they didn't take my car and that

643
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: stole my song because I might have been able to

644
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: help get through it. How did you so you end

645
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: up having to take them to court to get paid

646
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: in all that? Take them to court? Man, Yeah, decide.

647
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: That's why I learned the business like I know it now,

648
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, because I had to take seventeen years old.

649
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: Eighteen years old, they just stole your song that you

650
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: put out that you sold copies and was like, what

651
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: was your what was your name? Back then? It was

652
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: crime genius, Crime genius song. That's why you want to

653
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: protect black art now you know what it was? Um? Um,

654
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: my record was out in Germany and you know I

655
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: toured and on tour with Rob Base and um crime Genius.

656
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: I was, you know, big, and they heard in the

657
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: club and um the guy just went and remade the song,

658
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: put two people on it and never thought nobody would

659
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: fight it. You know. I'm just a kid from Baltimore,

660
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: you know. And really, if I didn't have the resources

661
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: and I didn't have the will, you know how many

662
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: people UH cheated on and and and stolen from and

663
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: they just don't have the means, the means or the

664
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: will or even because that's a fight, did it? Oh?

665
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: All that calls you to fight that seven you know

666
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: what I mean? No, man, they took us all. They

667
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: they don't want to give it back. Seven million dollars.

668
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: Seven million dollars. And when did you have that kind

669
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: of money back age? You really was a crime genius

670
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: the wire, you know you listen to God, Guys, Here's

671
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: here's what I want to say. Uh, everything, everything, if

672
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: every everybody, But more importantly, UM, when you're on the

673
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: side of right, you have friends, you have family, you

674
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: have lawyers that work uh in a sense of the

675
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: set of the case, you know, and all those kinds

676
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: of things. And I was just sing, um, I was

677
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: so loved in the city and loved by my family

678
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: that um, we were willing to clear my name and

679
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: and and get what's right from my mind. That's still

680
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: to this day, I'm able to sit back and collect checks,

681
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: and when I'm not here, my kids will be collecting

682
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: checks from from the record. And and that's why I

683
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: want to be honest with you. It is why I

684
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: fight uh for us, because I never want that to happen.

685
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: And I'll always protect black art. No I think I

686
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: think to protect black art campaign is great. The only

687
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: pushback guy have is literally those guys who commit crimes

688
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: and then go actually wrap in detail about the crime

689
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: they committed. That's just ridiculous. And we and we are

690
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: on the same page about that. And when I saying

691
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: those those lyrics, if they can prove ABCD, I'm with

692
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 1: presented to the judge. But but for the prosecutors to say,

693
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: because they called you king slime, you're the leader of

694
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: a gang, I'm not with that, y'all. I'm with you, right,

695
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: I know with that. Here's a leader. Here's a leader.

696
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: He's a leader of young stoner life. Regular you know

697
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm regular, But yeah, here's a leader,

698
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm sorry. He's come up in a

699
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: place where that the people has been oppressed and you know,

700
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: people have been in and out his life in a way,

701
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: and he's still learning how to be a man. This

702
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: is like it goes back to cbfore. Remember C Before.

703
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: Like C Before was literally a movie Chris Rock made

704
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: about rappers who you know, started emulating the game in

705
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: their music, just their music, just because they knew that's

706
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: what would sell. Yeah, but but do you see what

707
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: you that said that it was. It was a true story,

708
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: just wasn't dead story. It just wasn't dead story. So

709
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is like artists, art man and I

710
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: want to protect it. And if we don't get these

711
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: let the legislations passed, if we don't get out of

712
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: congressman and sentatives on on on our page. I don't

713
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: know if there's gonna be another Spike Lee. He might

714
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: not be to make that movie. I don't know if

715
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up Stephen King might make that novel.

716
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's interesting you say that because I

717
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: remember I had Making Good on my talk show last

718
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: season and she she said that. Now I was like, no,

719
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even true. She was basically saying like, I

720
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: gotta watch what character I play because nowadays people think

721
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: that's really me, and I'm like, really as an actress,

722
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: and this is this is listen, and this is the issue.

723
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: This is the you that we have that yes, what

724
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: you do and what you say is part of you,

725
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: no matter if you're acting or not not acting. But

726
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: if you're black and brown, it's definitely who you are.

727
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna say this who they will not treat, treat,

728
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: they treat Denzil different than they create Russell Crowe sure

729
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: it because of color and skin. And how can people

730
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: follow you and help you and get more information to

731
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: the course that you're running. I think it's a hashtag

732
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: protect Black Art and you can go online and change

733
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: dot org and look at the petition. I think we

734
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: over seventy thousand people right now. And then, like I said,

735
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: go out and vote. Make sure your legislators, your congressmen

736
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: and senators know and your governors and hold them accountable.

737
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: You know, let's let's hold them accountable for more than

738
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: just saying Okay, we're doing this for this person. After

739
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: this person, we got to hold them account to put

740
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: laws and that help us govern our country and govern

741
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: even our poor communities in a better way. All right, well,

742
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: Kevil allows, Uh, what does the gene is? What is it? Crime? Genius? Genius?

743
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: I'll do that, but trying to implicate him, No, don't, No,

744
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: I was not a crime. I was not a crime genius.

745
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: I was KG and I was in a group called Newmark.

746
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: You have a lot of ladies and gentlemen. Og. We

747
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: appreciate you, bro, God bless you guys. It's the Breakfast Club.

748
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: Good morning,