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Speaker 3: That's right, this is Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 4: Everybody welcome inside GMFB. Cody, Jamie, Tom, Kyle, Kyle. I

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Speaker 4: just want to check in with you real quick. Before

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Speaker 4: we talked to Tom. You had some time off last week,

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Speaker 4: but that doesn't mean that you didn't pop up on

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Speaker 4: our crossover event on Sports Center. I love the Seinfeld quote.

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Speaker 4: I love the T shirt. It was all working for you.

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Speaker 5: I love that you watched Jamie. It was really fun.

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Speaker 5: I was on Sports Center. It was like a Hi Mom,

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Speaker 5: I made it. It was incredible. I was with Hannah Storm.

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Speaker 3: We talked draft. I was actually there.

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Speaker 5: I was kind of adjacent to the Grand Canyon in Arizona,

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Speaker 5: and I actually went there to get a camp for

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Speaker 5: the hole in the Dallas Cowboys talent right now and

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Speaker 5: their roster. So that is my comp the Grand Canyon,

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Speaker 5: and that sound leads us to what they need to

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Speaker 5: do in this draft.

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Speaker 6: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Green Bay. From Sedona to Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: Tom Pella, Sero, you're hanging out there ahead of the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: There is no doubt about it. The most talked.

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Speaker 4: About, scrutinized, debated player in this year's draft class is

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Speaker 4: Colordo quarterback Shador Sanders. Tom we are drawing closerts a Thursday.

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Speaker 4: What is the word on Shador and what teams think

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Speaker 4: of this prospect and the whole package that comes.

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Speaker 3: With Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 7: Let's start out with the positives on Shador Sanders. Obviously

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Speaker 7: a highly productive college player. He's very accurate, he's very tough.

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Speaker 7: He does have fans, I can tell you that within

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Speaker 7: the league. But I would point to a couple of

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Speaker 7: things for why we're not talking about Shador Sanders. Surefi

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Speaker 7: is surefire top five, top three.

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Speaker 8: Pick on the field.

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Speaker 7: He doesn't have what you would call an elite athletic profile,

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Speaker 7: nor does he have an elite art and based upon

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Speaker 7: his play style, which is very much extending plays and

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Speaker 7: making things happen off schedule, it's hard to play that

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Speaker 7: rass questions about is he going to be able to

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Speaker 7: to play like at Drew Brees, which is a cop

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Speaker 7: that we've heard before from people based upon his size

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Speaker 7: to the right people. It's going to be a little

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Speaker 7: bit different for him coming into the NFL. The other

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Speaker 7: part of it is going to be the fact this

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Speaker 7: is a really unique evaluation for a lot of reasons

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Speaker 7: in terms of the program and the way that Schaedor

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Speaker 7: prospects ever who have played almost exclusively for their father,

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Speaker 7: much less having a father like Deon Sanders, one of

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Speaker 7: the greatest and highest profile athletes.

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Speaker 8: Of all time.

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Speaker 7: Going from youth football to high school to Jackson State

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Speaker 7: an environment where in talking to coaches and scouts, there

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Speaker 7: are questions just about how much, for instance, Chador has

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Speaker 7: if he makes a mistake. Is how much has he

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Speaker 7: you get different opinions about it. The interview process has

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Speaker 7: not necessarily helped Shaduur Sanders in that regard. We'll see

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Speaker 7: as we get to draft day here exactly what happens.

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Speaker 7: We know the Giants have put in a lot of

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Speaker 7: Steelers had him in for a visit at number twenty one.

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Speaker 7: Does he get drafted in the first round? Does he

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Speaker 7: go in the second? That's one of the biggest topics,

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 4: All those things are the reasons why I use the

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Speaker 4: words in your lead, which is he's scrutinized, he's debated,

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Speaker 4: he's very polarizing. Shaduar Sanders say, is Kyle, are you

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Speaker 4: with the where he's going to go? Is he worth

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Speaker 5: I know what You're talking about it's when I look

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Speaker 5: at Shadur now Draft week, I put him through the

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Speaker 5: Shadour Smith test, meaning what if his name was Shadur

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Speaker 3: This guy a top five pick?

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. No, I don't think so at all.

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Speaker 5: All the reasons Tom just said is that he doesn't

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Speaker 5: and it's his pedigree, and it's unique, and it's people

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Speaker 5: we're not having this conversation right now.

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Speaker 3: I think the comp the only comp that I've.

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Speaker 5: Come up with in terms of not necessarily even the athlete,

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Speaker 5: just in terms of the mystery and the intrigue about

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Speaker 5: where the hell is this guy going? Is Johnny Manziel.

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to draw the comparisons between the

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Speaker 5: but Menzel was all over the map.

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Speaker 8: In terms of the experts.

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Speaker 5: Mel Kuiper had him number one consensus overall Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 5: thought he would go three to Jacksonville. Daniel Jeremiah thought

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Speaker 5: he would go four to Cleveland. Sports Illustrated had him

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Speaker 5: going number one overall. He went to twenty two. He

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Speaker 3: It is not for everybody.

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Speaker 5: Huge faults in his game, but he's got this it

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Speaker 5: There are a lot of similarities. So I look at

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Speaker 3: Who do this for a living.

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Speaker 5: Mel Kuiper has Shaduur going at nine to the Saints

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Speaker 3: A perfect profile.

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Speaker 5: He has perfect pedigree, he has incredible genetics.

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Speaker 8: He has a lot to like in.

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Speaker 5: If you think Shadur Smith from Missouri would be drafted

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Speaker 5: number three, are number two you're taking a ride on

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Speaker 5: the Sanders Express. It's not for everybody, but you're gonna

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Speaker 5: see where it goes. And every single thing i'm reading

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Speaker 8: I'm not seeing a lot of free fall.

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Speaker 5: I'm not seeing twenty two like Manzel.

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Speaker 3: All these people I trust and respect.

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Speaker 5: Don't even have them getting out of the top five.

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Speaker 3: That's where we're at. Do anything.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I went back and I watched Shador's tape again

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Speaker 3: I did, and I really broke down the foule. Times

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Speaker 3: have you watched it? I've watched it too many times.

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Speaker 3: I've watched everybody's film too many times.

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Speaker 9: At this point, it's when we get into draft week.

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Speaker 9: I've watched everybody's tape as many times as you can count.

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Speaker 9: So I went back and watch it again. I believe

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Speaker 9: the reason that there's no true consensus right now on

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Speaker 9: between how high his ceiling can be and how low

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Speaker 9: scouts and coaches and teams and everybody who watches football

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Speaker 9: is torn on which way he's going to go when

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Speaker 9: he gets to the NFL. There's a lot to love

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Speaker 9: when you watch the tape of Shador Sanders, there's also

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Speaker 9: a lot of things that are very worrisome.

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Speaker 3: Now, I do think.

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Speaker 9: The positives outweigh the negatives, and there's a lot more

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Speaker 3: But there are a couple things that are caused for concern.

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Speaker 3: But let me start with the positives.

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Speaker 9: Like Tom Ke said, very accurate passer seventy four percent

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Speaker 9: seventy seven times last year. That is unheard of. You

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Speaker 9: Took a lot of hits at Colorado, not saying that's

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Speaker 9: a positive thing, but he kept getting up and bouncing

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Speaker 9: back and making big time throws. The one thing I

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Speaker 9: do think is very important for Shador is that he

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Speaker 3: Going to start with his footwork.

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Speaker 9: He gets off schedule too many times. He does not

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Speaker 9: I need you at nine and a.

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Speaker 3: Half year cards right down the midline.

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Speaker 9: If you drift to the right, if you drift to

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Speaker 9: You can't do that. He does that too many times

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Speaker 9: on film. That led to some of those sacks. Now,

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Speaker 9: I know his offensive line struggled at Colorado. When you

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Speaker 9: watch the tape, you're going to see that. But he

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Speaker 9: didn't help himself. There's so many times to where he

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Speaker 9: just needs to take a profit.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: The defense is going to win sometimes.

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Speaker 9: Especially up front, you can't compound the problem and make

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Speaker 9: a bad play worse. He tried to do too much

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Speaker 9: and be a hero too many times, and that hurt him.

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Speaker 3: And then that kind of.

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Speaker 9: Led to him being a little bit of predetermined with

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Speaker 9: Like I said, very accurate passer, great anticipation or a

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Speaker 9: lot of anticipatory throws, but he would predetermine. And I

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Speaker 9: go back to one of the plays against Arizona where

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Speaker 3: It's a turnover on a big time moment in that game.

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Speaker 9: Instead of knowing, Okay, the guy's out there, let me

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Speaker 5: I'm so intrigued even by the specifics of how Roger

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Speaker 3: It is New England.

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Speaker 9: The kid puts his body on the line every single Saturday.

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Speaker 7: So whatever team takes him is going to have to

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Speaker 7: Have made very clear they think he's a receiver first,

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's not gonna be a tuggle war over

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Speaker 8: It can't be. Hey, I need him in this meeting. No,

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Speaker 7: You've got to have a really clear vision for how

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Speaker 4: Are we going to try to file some paperwork here, Kyle,

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Speaker 3: Well, I like it.

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Speaker 5: Riveted to see which way Goodell says it and which

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Speaker 3: How do you do that?

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Speaker 4: It's Daniel Jeremiah. He's NFL Network's top draft analyst.

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Speaker 3: He reveals his.

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Speaker 4: Final mock draft on this of the year on Wednesday,

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Speaker 4: Colleen Wolf. This is a list that you need ahead

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Speaker 4: It's coming out Wednesday night, Kyle, I'll be there.

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Speaker 8: I cannot wait.

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Speaker 5: For quarterbacks, quarterbacks, quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: You know, Cam Warren's sort of we talk a lot

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Speaker 5: What about after that, Cody's going to talk about these

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Speaker 8: You cannot talk him enough.

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Speaker 3: It's draft week.

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Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere, good mon, all right? I love saying

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Speaker 8: It's Jeff Miller.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Jeff, Kyle?

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Speaker 6: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Happy Draft week?

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Speaker 5: there's something I just learned about you that the audience

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Speaker 5: needs to know that. It's just blowing my mind.

441
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Speaker 6: Jeff, you're from Wisconsin, blowing your mind? Yes, yes I am.

442
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Speaker 6: I am what part a little town called Mechwan, which

443
00:17:43,628 --> 00:17:47,068
Speaker 6: is just north of Milwaukee for football references, about an

444
00:17:47,068 --> 00:17:48,908
Speaker 6: hour twenty minute drive south of Green Bay.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so an hour and twenty minute drive south of

446
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Speaker 5: the NFL Draft As a Wisconsin guy, How you feeling

447
00:17:54,108 --> 00:17:54,468
Speaker 5: this weekend?

448
00:17:54,508 --> 00:17:56,028
Speaker 6: I mean, I could not be more excited.

449
00:17:56,188 --> 00:17:56,588
Speaker 2: So cool.

450
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Speaker 6: I mean, every city is able to put its own

451
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Speaker 6: imprint on the draft. That's been so fun. As we've

452
00:18:00,828 --> 00:18:02,668
Speaker 6: moved the draft from city to city, it was just

453
00:18:02,708 --> 00:18:04,388
Speaker 6: a matter of time before Green Bay did the same.

454
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Speaker 6: And the team's been amazing. And for fans out there

455
00:18:07,508 --> 00:18:09,348
Speaker 6: haven't had a chance to be in Green Bay at

456
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Speaker 6: lambeau Field, they're going to get a chance to see

457
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Speaker 6: everything that's so special unique about Green Bay, which is

458
00:18:15,148 --> 00:18:16,668
Speaker 6: obviously synonymous with the Packers.

459
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Speaker 5: I just remember very well when the decision came and

460
00:18:19,268 --> 00:18:20,788
Speaker 5: it's like, it's New York, New York, New York, and

461
00:18:20,788 --> 00:18:22,268
Speaker 5: we're going to move it, and people were like, what

462
00:18:22,588 --> 00:18:24,868
Speaker 5: it's supposed to be in New York? Could you have

463
00:18:25,028 --> 00:18:27,828
Speaker 5: envisioned then when that happened, how great this has been and.

464
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Speaker 3: How it's a huge part of it.

465
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Speaker 5: We've been to Philly and we've been to Nashville. It's

466
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Speaker 5: been a massive success and I love it.

467
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Speaker 6: The fans have been overwhelming. Who knew it was going

468
00:18:35,868 --> 00:18:37,748
Speaker 6: to be this large, Like shout out to the clubs

469
00:18:37,748 --> 00:18:39,188
Speaker 6: who have put it on, Shout out to our team

470
00:18:39,268 --> 00:18:41,028
Speaker 6: back in the office who have put the event together

471
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Speaker 6: to make it so fan friendly and give people access

472
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Speaker 6: to something they hadn't seen before. I mean last year

473
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Speaker 6: in Detroit, hundreds of thousands of people showed up Green

474
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Speaker 6: Bay from all over the Midwest. People are going to

475
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Speaker 6: be there and all of these fans who love the

476
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Speaker 6: Packers or who've watched the Packers that have never been

477
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Speaker 6: to Lambeau are going to get a bit of the

478
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Speaker 6: Lambeaux experience because it's all going to be built up,

479
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Speaker 6: and they're going to get a feel for northern Wisconsin,

480
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Speaker 6: which could not be more fun, so.

481
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Speaker 5: Fun things they haven't experienced before, like cheese, Kurds, spotted cow.

482
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Speaker 5: We will just keep running it down. I love Wisconsin.

483
00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:10,028
Speaker 5: We talked in the air off.

484
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Speaker 6: What about butterburgers. You know you and I are going

485
00:19:12,828 --> 00:19:14,428
Speaker 6: to go over to Krolls in a couple of days, right.

486
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Speaker 6: I mean people don't even know what that is like

487
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Speaker 6: an experience, No.

488
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Speaker 3: But they're gonna learn. You're gonna learn about cam Word.

489
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Speaker 5: Schador and butter Burgers. Indeed, we always learn when you

490
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Speaker 5: come in, Jeff, because if you don't know, Jeff is

491
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Speaker 5: really on the front lines of player safety and protecting

492
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Speaker 5: this players as much as we possibly can in this game.

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Speaker 3: Your group recently.

494
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Speaker 5: Had results from lab testing, which is a hard left

495
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Speaker 5: turn from Butterburgers.

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Speaker 6: Jeff tell us about the.

497
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Speaker 5: Lab test and the different helmets and for fans watching,

498
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Speaker 5: what can they learn about this?

499
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Speaker 6: Thank you for asking and nice job on the Seguay.

500
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Speaker 6: So talking about helmets, it was another great year in

501
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Speaker 6: development of the engineering around helmets. Shout out to the

502
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Speaker 6: engineers who work on this for both us and the

503
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Speaker 6: Players Association. And what we saw last year was in

504
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Speaker 6: influx of a bunch of brand new helmets, and what

505
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Speaker 6: we saw on field represented what happened in the lab.

506
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Speaker 6: So if you were wearing one of the best performing helmets,

507
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Speaker 6: you were up to twenty percent twenty seven percent less

508
00:20:05,988 --> 00:20:08,548
Speaker 6: likely to get injured than somebody who's wearing an older helmet,

509
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Speaker 6: which is a remarkable thing. And in the context of that,

510
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Speaker 6: we saw last year in the league the fewest number

511
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Speaker 6: of concussions we've ever seen. So the big goal this

512
00:20:16,708 --> 00:20:18,948
Speaker 6: year is to take those helmets that were new last year,

513
00:20:19,108 --> 00:20:21,708
Speaker 6: seven new models this year, which also tests very well,

514
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Speaker 6: and move about thirty percent of the league into the

515
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Speaker 6: best performing helmets to better protect them from injury, which

516
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Speaker 6: is a huge lift. But that's a big goal for

517
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Speaker 6: the season.

518
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Speaker 5: I always love this because as if you're a fan,

519
00:20:32,788 --> 00:20:34,508
Speaker 5: you watch and you'll tune in on a game and

520
00:20:34,548 --> 00:20:35,468
Speaker 5: you're saying, but.

521
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Speaker 8: What is that helmet that George Kittle's watching?

522
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Speaker 5: And I always think fans are obsessed with aesthetics and equipments,

523
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Speaker 5: and this is what we're talking about here. And yet

524
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Speaker 5: I know there's still work to be done. You're talking

525
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Speaker 5: about percentages. What are the goals where we headed? How

526
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Speaker 5: can we get more players in the safest helmets.

527
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we work really closely with the Players Association on

528
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Speaker 6: the testing and on the education, and if we're up

529
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Speaker 6: to us, we would eliminate, you know, mandate that some

530
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Speaker 6: helmets not be worn at all. The Players Association wants

531
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Speaker 6: a little bit more player choice, which is fine, but

532
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Speaker 6: it's worked out but we will work with the players association,

533
00:21:03,908 --> 00:21:07,028
Speaker 6: the equipment, the trainers, and increasingly, this is really interesting

534
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Speaker 6: part to me, the coaches who want their players in

535
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Speaker 6: the best performing helmets. And we've seen that that coaches

536
00:21:12,668 --> 00:21:14,468
Speaker 6: have gone to the club and say, hey, look, guys,

537
00:21:14,828 --> 00:21:15,908
Speaker 6: here's the five best helmets.

538
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Speaker 3: Choose one.

539
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Speaker 6: Just choose one. The one you're wearing before isn't going

540
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Speaker 6: to keep you as protected and we need you on

541
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Speaker 6: the field. Why take a greater risk of injury? And

542
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Speaker 6: it is a very collaborative effort to move players into

543
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Speaker 6: the best place. And these players, but you know, since

544
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Speaker 6: your time, are more and more educated about the engineering.

545
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Speaker 6: They ask more questions, they get into it. They want

546
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Speaker 6: to know what's newest from their manufacturer, what new device,

547
00:21:36,748 --> 00:21:39,748
Speaker 6: what new shape, what new form is possible, And so

548
00:21:39,828 --> 00:21:41,948
Speaker 6: they're involved in the process too, and credit to them change.

549
00:21:42,028 --> 00:21:43,508
Speaker 6: Changing your helmet's not an easy thing to do, and

550
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Speaker 6: we ask a lot of them.

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Speaker 5: I remember talking to Kittle at the Pro Bowl and

552
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Speaker 5: I was like, hey, what's with the new helmets?

553
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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 6: I'll never wear anything else. He's absolutely way into.

555
00:21:51,268 --> 00:21:53,308
Speaker 5: It, the comfort and all the protection and everything. And

556
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Speaker 5: I think the players are starting to embrace it more.

557
00:21:55,468 --> 00:21:57,828
Speaker 5: It's compelling when the head coach says, here's the five helmets,

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Speaker 5: pick one.

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Speaker 6: No question not to mention the fact that more and

560
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Speaker 6: more of these helmets are positions specific. So if you're

561
00:22:02,388 --> 00:22:05,388
Speaker 6: an offensive line, that helmet is built to represent the

562
00:22:05,428 --> 00:22:08,708
Speaker 6: impacts that you experience play by play, game by game.

563
00:22:08,948 --> 00:22:12,228
Speaker 6: If you're a quarterback, similarly, so you know what those

564
00:22:12,268 --> 00:22:15,068
Speaker 6: impacts are, the magnitude, the frequency of those impacts, and

565
00:22:15,108 --> 00:22:18,068
Speaker 6: that piece of equipment is offering you more protection than

566
00:22:18,108 --> 00:22:20,148
Speaker 6: your random helmet off the shelf, so why not use it?

567
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Speaker 6: And more and more players are moving into those.

568
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Speaker 5: Can you envision reality, We're a head coach, someone who's

569
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Speaker 5: maybe doesn't give a damn about conventions, like Jim Harbaugh

570
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Speaker 5: could mandate.

571
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Speaker 6: It, well, mandate that. Now we're getting into legal territory. Sure, right,

572
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Speaker 6: but can't heavily suggest they certainly have a lot of influence, right,

573
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Speaker 6: And we've seen that on team by team, like there

574
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Speaker 6: are certain teams that have more and more players and

575
00:22:39,668 --> 00:22:41,588
Speaker 6: the best performing helmets and other teams that don't. And

576
00:22:41,628 --> 00:22:44,668
Speaker 6: the difference to me is both the equipment manager who's

577
00:22:44,708 --> 00:22:46,468
Speaker 6: really good as well as the head coach saying, guys,

578
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Speaker 6: it's time to move into this thing.

579
00:22:47,828 --> 00:22:49,348
Speaker 5: Well, if we're going to talk safety, we're going to

580
00:22:49,428 --> 00:22:52,388
Speaker 5: talk kickoffs and ditchbacks, all right, bring us up to speed.

581
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Speaker 5: Going into the twenty twenty five season, people are confused

582
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Speaker 5: their opinion. They're passionate about kickoffs and touchbacks.

583
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Speaker 6: Where are we and how do you feel? Who knew

584
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Speaker 6: that we would be debating the kickoff this much, this long?

585
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Speaker 3: It's great?

586
00:23:02,668 --> 00:23:04,868
Speaker 6: Okay, So here's the foundation part of a college. Remember

587
00:23:05,068 --> 00:23:07,308
Speaker 6: the injury rate on the kickoff previous to last year

588
00:23:07,428 --> 00:23:10,188
Speaker 6: somewhere between two and four times a play from scrimmage. Okay,

589
00:23:10,228 --> 00:23:13,588
Speaker 6: a lot concussions double. So over the course of years,

590
00:23:13,588 --> 00:23:16,028
Speaker 6: special teams, coaches were working in different formations. Coaches were

591
00:23:16,068 --> 00:23:17,748
Speaker 6: debating it, the league was debating it, talking to the

592
00:23:17,748 --> 00:23:19,548
Speaker 6: players about it, on and on and on. We made

593
00:23:19,548 --> 00:23:21,388
Speaker 6: the big move last year to the dynamic kickoff. The

594
00:23:21,468 --> 00:23:25,868
Speaker 6: results about fifty seven percent more kicks returned, and the

595
00:23:25,868 --> 00:23:28,068
Speaker 6: injury rate actually decreased despite the fact they were more

596
00:23:28,148 --> 00:23:30,428
Speaker 6: kicks return which is great, and the concussions were at

597
00:23:30,468 --> 00:23:33,228
Speaker 6: their lowest level in years. So it performed exactly as

598
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Speaker 6: we have modeled. Its great news. So yet only about

599
00:23:36,388 --> 00:23:38,148
Speaker 6: one in three kicks were returned. We want that number

600
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Speaker 6: to be higher. So we're moving the touch back to

601
00:23:39,788 --> 00:23:41,988
Speaker 6: the thirty five from the thirty. The idea of there

602
00:23:42,028 --> 00:23:43,628
Speaker 6: being that a lot more teams will now kick the

603
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Speaker 6: ball in the landing zone because there's a pretty good

604
00:23:46,588 --> 00:23:48,788
Speaker 6: penalty if you don't, so more teams will bring it back.

605
00:23:48,788 --> 00:23:50,828
Speaker 6: So you're going to see more kicks return Hopefully you'll

606
00:23:50,828 --> 00:23:52,988
Speaker 6: see a few more interesting plays and we saw last

607
00:23:53,028 --> 00:23:55,348
Speaker 6: year and hopefully we'll build on it. More touchdowns, more

608
00:23:55,388 --> 00:23:58,068
Speaker 6: long returns, more exciting plays. I love hearing that it's

609
00:23:58,068 --> 00:23:59,628
Speaker 6: all good news. I love the statistics.

610
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Speaker 5: I also I was interested in you. You've done this

611
00:24:01,988 --> 00:24:04,188
Speaker 5: for years, We've talked about it for years. Take us

612
00:24:04,228 --> 00:24:07,428
Speaker 5: to back, Jeff and look forward five years from now.

613
00:24:08,028 --> 00:24:08,908
Speaker 5: What would you like to see?

614
00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:09,708
Speaker 3: What is a goal?

615
00:24:09,868 --> 00:24:11,948
Speaker 6: Everything that we do is about reducing the number of

616
00:24:11,948 --> 00:24:13,828
Speaker 6: injuries and number of players lose games. We need to

617
00:24:13,828 --> 00:24:15,988
Speaker 6: see more improvement in helmets. We want to see cleats

618
00:24:16,028 --> 00:24:18,628
Speaker 6: and surfaces, which is a big focus of ours. Our

619
00:24:18,668 --> 00:24:20,508
Speaker 6: friends at Nike are working with us on this now.

620
00:24:20,548 --> 00:24:23,028
Speaker 6: The turf manufacturers are starting to get the same information

621
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Speaker 6: from us that the helmet manufacturers got years ago, see

622
00:24:25,708 --> 00:24:28,388
Speaker 6: better services shoulder pads. Unfortunately, this year we saw an

623
00:24:28,428 --> 00:24:30,988
Speaker 6: increase in shoulder injuries. I don't know if it's the pads.

624
00:24:31,028 --> 00:24:32,508
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's the lack of pads. A

625
00:24:32,508 --> 00:24:34,148
Speaker 6: lot of our players aren't wearing what they once did.

626
00:24:34,228 --> 00:24:36,188
Speaker 6: Just look at NFL films from twenty years ago and

627
00:24:36,228 --> 00:24:37,908
Speaker 6: you can see a difference. We need to look at

628
00:24:37,948 --> 00:24:39,908
Speaker 6: all that, and I think we can save more injuries

629
00:24:39,948 --> 00:24:41,788
Speaker 6: for the players. We can keep them on field longer,

630
00:24:41,788 --> 00:24:43,988
Speaker 6: and I think that that will always be a priority

631
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Speaker 6: for the NFL.

632
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Speaker 5: Growing up in Wisconsin, your favorite Packers memory, what do

633
00:24:47,148 --> 00:24:47,468
Speaker 5: you got?

634
00:24:47,588 --> 00:24:50,068
Speaker 6: Well, you have to go with far Super Bowl? Oh yeah,

635
00:24:50,708 --> 00:24:53,388
Speaker 6: ninety in New Orleans. Oh my gosh, yeah no. I

636
00:24:53,388 --> 00:24:54,868
Speaker 6: flew with my brother to Houston and drove to New

637
00:24:54,948 --> 00:24:56,868
Speaker 6: Orleans because the only way we could get there, and

638
00:24:56,908 --> 00:24:58,988
Speaker 6: slept on a friend's floor in a hotel so that

639
00:24:59,028 --> 00:25:00,828
Speaker 6: we can see the Packers. But since then, just you know,

640
00:25:00,868 --> 00:25:02,508
Speaker 6: and for everybody watching the NFL, I rooted for all

641
00:25:02,548 --> 00:25:05,268
Speaker 6: thirty two. Of coursely as your fandom when you come

642
00:25:05,268 --> 00:25:07,268
Speaker 6: mark at the league. But when I was just a kid,

643
00:25:07,548 --> 00:25:09,108
Speaker 6: finding the Packers and ringing for the Packers in the

644
00:25:09,148 --> 00:25:10,228
Speaker 6: Super Bowl was Highland.

645
00:25:10,108 --> 00:25:12,228
Speaker 5: Road trip to New Orleans, sleeping on the floor. It

646
00:25:12,228 --> 00:25:15,708
Speaker 5: wasn't always about safety with this guy. As Jeff Miller,

647
00:25:15,948 --> 00:25:17,988
Speaker 5: you get frustrated when players get injured. You don't want

648
00:25:17,988 --> 00:25:19,948
Speaker 5: them off of your fantasy team. They're doing everything they

649
00:25:20,028 --> 00:25:21,828
Speaker 5: possibly can to keep them healthy, and this guy is

650
00:25:21,828 --> 00:25:22,508
Speaker 5: at the front of that.

651
00:25:22,668 --> 00:25:24,108
Speaker 6: It's always great to see him. Thanks Tom.

652
00:25:24,188 --> 00:25:24,988
Speaker 3: Let's enjoy the draft.

653
00:25:25,028 --> 00:25:26,908
Speaker 5: We'll be right back with Good Morning Football right after this.

654
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Speaker 6: Stay safe, everybody.

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Speaker 11: It's time now to show you a sneak peek at

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Speaker 11: breakdown game film and talk about this year's NFL draft prospects.

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Speaker 10: Obviously, the expectations that he's had, you know, throughout his

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Speaker 10: college career and then taking Colorado to New Heights like.

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Speaker 6: That, you know that's not easy.

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Speaker 10: The knock is a little bit of the arm strength,

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Speaker 10: and then you know, holding the ball took a lot

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Speaker 10: of sacks. With my experience of playing like if I

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Speaker 10: can show my guys you know that I can get

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Speaker 10: hit and then keep going, that just shows a lot

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Speaker 10: about you know, your leadership and just being able to

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Speaker 10: learn to get the ball out play within the timing

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Speaker 10: of the offense and concepts. So I think those are

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Speaker 10: things that he has and will continue to learn.

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Speaker 6: And development, no doubt.

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Speaker 11: They also teased each other on the scouting report that

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Speaker 11: Daniel Jeremiah had on Rock Pretty coming out of Iowa.

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Speaker 6: State a couple of years ago. Pretty funny stuff.

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Speaker 8: More, I'm pretty Now.

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Speaker 11: As the forty nine ers are working on a long

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Speaker 11: term deal for the quarterback, how much he'll get paid,

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Speaker 11: it's been a hot topic of discussion even amongst his rivals.

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Speaker 8: Rams receiver Puka Nakua appeared on.

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Speaker 11: Julian Edelman's Games with Names podcasts and shared his thoughts

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Speaker 11: on the topic.

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Speaker 3: Rock Perty.

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Speaker 6: Is he gonna get a five? I don't think so.

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Speaker 8: Do you think he's gonna go with a four? It's

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Speaker 8: gonna start with a four?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: High four?

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Speaker 8: No, I think mid for forty five.

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Speaker 6: I think so.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think if he does that, that'd be

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Speaker 9: smart for him and them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think he's he seems like a

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Speaker 6: smart guy.

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Speaker 8: I think he like there's still they have a chance

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Speaker 8: to still.

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Speaker 6: Be in their window.

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Speaker 7: And I think if he goes for a five, the

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Speaker 7: window closes, right.

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Speaker 11: Ooka putting his GM pat on another quarterback news Washington's

702
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Speaker 11: Jaden Daniels coming off winning Offensive Rookie of the Year award,

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Speaker 11: but he's not resting on his Laurels, Daniels saying on

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Speaker 11: Gruden goes long, it's a whole new year and he

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Speaker 11: has to prove himself to his teammates and the organization

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Speaker 11: that he is getting better. And the Browns could be

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Speaker 11: in the market for a quarterback in this week's draft.

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Speaker 11: How about Alabama's Jalen Milroe. When asked specifically about Milroe

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Speaker 11: and his pre draft press conference, Cleveland general manager Andrew

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Speaker 11: Berry calling Milroe a rare physical.

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Speaker 8: Talent and maybe listen to this.

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Speaker 11: The only quarterback who's faster than Lamar Jackson Jamie Cody.

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Speaker 8: When I heard that, my ears certainly perked up.

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Speaker 11: I can't imagine a quarterback in today's NFL being faster

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Speaker 11: than Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Omark who's producing this show, You just had like three

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Speaker 4: juicy topics that now I have to talk to everybody

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Speaker 4: about at the table, and you just kept them to

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Speaker 4: yourself with your own little segment. I got to talk

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Speaker 4: about Pookinako having a take on brock Party's contract, Daniel

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Speaker 4: Jeremia and brock Party driving around Sofi Stadium.

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Speaker 3: How did the forty nine ers feel about that?

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Speaker 4: Omar Really great stuff. But let's stick with that final topic,

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Speaker 4: stay on task. It's the fact that Andrew Berry has

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Speaker 4: a decision to make and whether or not that includes

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Speaker 4: Jalen Milroe at least Cody Kessler. We've heard that he

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Speaker 4: loves the Alabama quarterback. What do you think about the

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Speaker 4: roletide QB.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going.

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Speaker 9: To go on record and say that I think he's

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Speaker 9: faster than Lamar Jackson, because Lamar Jackson is a very

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Speaker 9: rare talent. But I do believe that Jalen Merrow is

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Speaker 9: the most athletic player in this draft at the quarterback spot.

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Speaker 9: He's probably one of the most athletic players in this

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Speaker 9: entire draft period, regardless of position. Dangerous with the ball

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Speaker 9: in his hands. One of those guys in that second tier. Right,

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Speaker 9: We've talked a lot about cam Ward, talked a lot

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Speaker 9: about Shador Sanders rightfully so those are two very talented quarterbacks.

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Speaker 9: But that second wave of guys where I believe Milroe

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Speaker 9: falls into is very intriguing. I don't think this will

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Speaker 9: be a top heavy draft for quarterback obviously, but it's

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Speaker 9: going to ramp up and become a frenzy when we

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Speaker 9: get to that second to fifth round, and I think

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Speaker 9: Milroe falls in that category.

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Speaker 4: Cody Kessler, us C quarterback handful of years in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: You have other thoughts on the quarterbacks that you're going

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Speaker 4: to get to here on GMFB.

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Speaker 9: I don't. I don't want to get too much away.

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Speaker 9: Talk some about them already on the show. We also

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Speaker 9: talked a little bit about them when I came on for.

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Speaker 3: The free combine the draft of all those things.

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Speaker 9: Going on, but I got a little bit more on

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Speaker 9: these guys and they developed had some pro days, which

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Speaker 9: I think these guys improved as well. Jackson dark Quinn yours, Jaln.

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Speaker 9: Milroe is in that category. But I'm really excited to

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Speaker 9: break these guys down.

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Speaker 4: Only talking about guys that had pro days, not showcases.

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Speaker 4: Very different thing when it goes to Colorado, Let's first

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Speaker 4: first round potential sleepers for quarterbacks Putty Cusser.

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Speaker 2: Next, Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 4: A quarterback who's seen it all through his college career

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Speaker 4: is Quinn Yours. It's been quite the journey for the

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Speaker 4: Texas quarterback of take a look and then let's talk

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 12: From high school, I rocked a mullet and it decided

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Speaker 12: to kind of have a mind of its own and

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Speaker 12: kind of blew up a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Kept it for my.

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Speaker 12: First two years in college. It was fun, well lasted,

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Speaker 12: but it was hard to take care of it. Towards

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Speaker 12: the end. There it's time to get rid of it,

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Speaker 12: you know. You cut the hair, all the bad habits

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Speaker 12: go with it.

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Speaker 2: That's about as good as he's looked.

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Speaker 6: Gid's a faller.

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Speaker 8: When you were as quarterback Texas Hookhm, you was what

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Speaker 8: being players to down?

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Speaker 3: Why you com bakdown?

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Speaker 12: I had nine scholarship offers before I started a game

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Speaker 12: in high school for the varsity team. I got my

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Speaker 12: first scholarship offer from North Texas going into seventh grade.

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Speaker 12: I'm at a summer camp trying to just get better,

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Speaker 12: you know, get coached by some of the college quarterback coaches.

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Speaker 12: Came up to me after the camp and we're talking

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Speaker 12: to me, you know, asking how old I was, And

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Speaker 12: it was funny because they asked me if I had

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Speaker 12: a Twitter, and I told them I didn't even have

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Speaker 12: a phone yet. I ended up being the number one

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Speaker 12: player coming out of high school going into the college.

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Speaker 6: Now yours a downfield shot.

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Speaker 8: He just dropped it, hit a bucket.

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Speaker 12: I would describe my style as controlled aggression. Our system

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Speaker 12: at Texas was built around making the quarterback successful, and

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Speaker 12: then my job was just to get the ball in

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Speaker 12: the playmaker's hands, so taking the shots when they're there

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Speaker 12: and setting up their shots with other players.

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Speaker 11: Queen Yours lays it over top of the safety for

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Speaker 11: a score.

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Speaker 12: My resiliency is unluck no other. My mental toughness go

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Speaker 12: along with it, and just my poison composure and big

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Speaker 12: moments I think sets me apart.

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Speaker 5: And now he's gonna run it in a selling and

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Speaker 5: Queen Yours goes in for the rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 12: Draft Knight is just going to be a lot of emotion,

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Speaker 12: a lot of happiness is gonna be around my family,

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Speaker 12: some of my loved one, some friends. Just to be

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Speaker 12: able to experience all that together, I think it's going

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Speaker 12: to be super important because I'm a.

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Speaker 3: Big relationship guy.

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Speaker 6: I love having relationships with.

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Speaker 12: My loved one, you know, just have an amazing support group,

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Speaker 12: and for them to be there with me and experiencing

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Speaker 12: that with me, I think that we're obviously gonna remember

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Speaker 12: that for.

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Speaker 3: A life time. I think the Mullet plays queen yours.

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Speaker 4: I think if you brought it back, everybody would be

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Speaker 4: okay with it. But that's a decision that you get

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Speaker 4: to make. Other football gms are making decisions about Quinn

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Speaker 4: You ers this week, Cody Kessler, what do you think

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Speaker 4: about the quarterback?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I like Quinn Ears.

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Speaker 9: When he's playing in rhythm, when he's playing with confidence,

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Speaker 9: he is as good of a passer in this draft

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Speaker 9: as any other quarterback. I truly believe that he's shown

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Speaker 9: that over his career. He got his first off when

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Speaker 9: he's in seventh grade. Obviously he's always had the talent.

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Speaker 9: The problem is a year ago he lost some of

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Speaker 9: that confidence. Now I know, he dealt with an injury,

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Speaker 9: then he dealt with a quarterback controversy when he came back,

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Speaker 9: and there were times when he was struggling. And you

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Speaker 9: hear that, right, you try to block it out. You

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Speaker 9: don't look at Twitter, you don't look at social media.

834
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Speaker 9: But when your fan base starts wanting another quarterback to

835
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Speaker 9: play who showed some flashes, when you start struggling, it

836
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Speaker 9: gets in your head and that becomes a problem.

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Speaker 3: If Queen Yours can get back.

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Speaker 9: To playing at a fast paced throwing on the run

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Speaker 9: right here like he did against Michigan, playing with confidence

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Speaker 9: and poise, I think he can be a very good

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Speaker 9: quarterback at the next level. Now, look, I don't think

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Speaker 9: he's going to be a first round pick, but I

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Speaker 9: do believe he can have a lot of value in

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Speaker 9: that second round, maybe even third or fourth round, to

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Speaker 9: where he can be a solid backup and then develop

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Speaker 9: and do a starter potentially in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he did himself a ton of.

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Speaker 9: Favors throughout this draft process, at the combine and at

849
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Speaker 9: Pro Day, but I also don't think he hurt himself, right.

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Speaker 9: I think he stayed right about in the same spot.

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Speaker 9: A lot of people had a perception of him going

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Speaker 9: into this pre draft process. I think he proved that

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Speaker 9: throughout this entire time. But overall, I'm a big fan

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Speaker 9: of Quinn Yours and I think if he can continue.

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Speaker 3: To develop, he can be a big player in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Concerned with quinn Ewers and talking to coaches and scouts

857
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Speaker 7: is mainly he's not the biggest guy, doesn't have a

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Speaker 7: lead trades.

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Speaker 3: He's been hurt and missed a.

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Speaker 7: Little bit of time every year going back to high school.

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Speaker 7: But there's one quarterback in this draft who would to

862
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Speaker 7: consecutive college football playoffs. Was eleven to one on the

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Speaker 7: road as a starter and joined Joel Burrow. Was the

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Speaker 7: only quarterbacks to beat Nick Saban at Alabama in like

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Speaker 7: the last eight years. It wasn't Camp Warre, wasn't Shor Sanders,

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Speaker 7: it was quinn Ewers. That's gonna be a really interesting

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Speaker 7: one to exactly where he lands. Tell me about Jackson

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Speaker 7: Dart Cody a guy who plays in a very quarterback

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Speaker 7: friendly offense there for Lane Kiffin and does have a

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Speaker 7: chance to be a first rounder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like Dart.

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Speaker 9: I've been torn on who that second quarterback was throughout

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Speaker 9: this entire process. Now I believe that cam Ward is won,

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Speaker 9: then there's a gap. I believe Shador Sanders is too,

875
00:34:23,668 --> 00:34:25,548
Speaker 9: and then there's a smaller gap, and I have Jackson

876
00:34:25,668 --> 00:34:27,508
Speaker 9: Dart just behind Shador Sanders.

877
00:34:27,508 --> 00:34:29,388
Speaker 3: I really liked his game solid arm I.

878
00:34:29,388 --> 00:34:31,628
Speaker 9: Played for Lane Kipman, so I know the type of

879
00:34:31,708 --> 00:34:32,828
Speaker 9: coaching that he is receiving.

880
00:34:32,868 --> 00:34:35,428
Speaker 3: It's going to translate well to the NFL. Very good.

881
00:34:35,588 --> 00:34:37,268
Speaker 9: I push him the football down the field. He led

882
00:34:37,268 --> 00:34:40,548
Speaker 9: college football last year fifteen hundred yards seventeen touchdowns when

883
00:34:40,548 --> 00:34:41,068
Speaker 9: throwing the ball.

884
00:34:41,028 --> 00:34:43,068
Speaker 3: Twenty plus yards down the field.

885
00:34:43,388 --> 00:34:46,828
Speaker 9: He opposite of Quinn Ewers, in my opinion, really had

886
00:34:47,188 --> 00:34:49,628
Speaker 9: a great pre draft process, kind of like bow Knicks

887
00:34:49,668 --> 00:34:50,268
Speaker 9: did a year ago.

888
00:34:50,348 --> 00:34:52,788
Speaker 3: We saw him a sin to where bow Knicks is

889
00:34:52,828 --> 00:34:53,108
Speaker 3: in that.

890
00:34:53,068 --> 00:34:55,588
Speaker 9: Top fifty range, right top forty five range. There was

891
00:34:55,588 --> 00:34:57,988
Speaker 9: concern about his age and being in college for a long.

892
00:34:57,868 --> 00:34:59,988
Speaker 3: Time, but then he went out and crushed the combine.

893
00:34:59,988 --> 00:35:01,788
Speaker 9: He did a great job at his pro day, really

894
00:35:01,828 --> 00:35:04,708
Speaker 9: took advantage of those individual workouts, those private work we

895
00:35:04,708 --> 00:35:07,068
Speaker 9: heard Sean Payton talk about. That's where they were sold

896
00:35:07,108 --> 00:35:09,028
Speaker 9: on boat Nix. I wish we could learn more about

897
00:35:09,028 --> 00:35:11,108
Speaker 9: those private workouts with Jackson Dart and the teams that

898
00:35:11,148 --> 00:35:11,748
Speaker 9: he's worked with.

899
00:35:11,908 --> 00:35:13,428
Speaker 3: But again, Dart, for me.

900
00:35:13,508 --> 00:35:14,988
Speaker 9: Is a guy that I think could sneak into the

901
00:35:15,028 --> 00:35:17,308
Speaker 9: first round. I've seen him going as high as the

902
00:35:17,308 --> 00:35:19,388
Speaker 9: top five. I've seen him going in the middle of

903
00:35:19,388 --> 00:35:21,948
Speaker 9: the second round. You can convince me with either of those, right.

904
00:35:22,068 --> 00:35:23,708
Speaker 9: I really like his play style. I think he's going

905
00:35:23,748 --> 00:35:25,748
Speaker 9: to transition well to the NFL. I know all the

906
00:35:25,788 --> 00:35:27,868
Speaker 9: talk is Nan cam Warden schaendor Sanders, but you can't

907
00:35:27,908 --> 00:35:28,948
Speaker 9: forget about Jackson Dart.

908
00:35:29,028 --> 00:35:31,348
Speaker 5: Let's talk Jalen Milro though Alabama, we know a lot

909
00:35:31,388 --> 00:35:33,228
Speaker 5: of him. Is incredible athlete. We had him on the

910
00:35:33,268 --> 00:35:36,708
Speaker 5: show and he was so compelling, so smart, so sharp,

911
00:35:36,788 --> 00:35:38,428
Speaker 5: so fun, incredible personality.

912
00:35:38,428 --> 00:35:39,748
Speaker 6: We all really really liked him.

913
00:35:39,868 --> 00:35:43,228
Speaker 5: Also, he raised some eyebrows when the news came out

914
00:35:43,228 --> 00:35:45,228
Speaker 5: that he'd be attending the draft, which he talked about.

915
00:35:45,268 --> 00:35:47,708
Speaker 5: He's going to be there in Green Bay, sitting there

916
00:35:47,748 --> 00:35:49,708
Speaker 5: in the green room, and no one knows if he's

917
00:35:49,708 --> 00:35:51,388
Speaker 5: going to get picked, and we always hate to see

918
00:35:51,388 --> 00:35:52,908
Speaker 5: those guys just sit there and sit there and then

919
00:35:52,988 --> 00:35:56,548
Speaker 5: lee without being picked. Maybe he's getting some questionable advice,

920
00:35:56,668 --> 00:35:58,908
Speaker 5: or maybe he knows something that we don't know. But

921
00:35:58,948 --> 00:36:00,628
Speaker 5: the word is he's going to be there.

922
00:36:00,748 --> 00:36:02,948
Speaker 3: What do you think, Cody, Yeah, I don't know how

923
00:36:02,988 --> 00:36:03,908
Speaker 3: to read into that. Kyle.

924
00:36:03,948 --> 00:36:05,668
Speaker 9: When I heard that news, I was a little surprised

925
00:36:05,708 --> 00:36:08,588
Speaker 9: because I didn't have Jalen Milroe with the first round grade.

926
00:36:08,588 --> 00:36:10,628
Speaker 3: But again read into it. However, you like the fact

927
00:36:10,628 --> 00:36:11,508
Speaker 3: that he got invited there.

928
00:36:11,508 --> 00:36:13,228
Speaker 9: It tells you something. That has to mean something. It

929
00:36:13,268 --> 00:36:15,068
Speaker 9: does carry weight. Now is he going to be a

930
00:36:15,108 --> 00:36:16,668
Speaker 9: first round pick? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

931
00:36:16,668 --> 00:36:18,428
Speaker 9: But when I look at Jalen Milroe, he is the

932
00:36:18,468 --> 00:36:20,348
Speaker 9: most intriguing player to me in this draft at the

933
00:36:20,388 --> 00:36:23,388
Speaker 9: quarterback position. He is very dangerous on the ground. We

934
00:36:23,428 --> 00:36:25,948
Speaker 9: just heard Omar talk about being faster Lamar Jackson don't

935
00:36:25,948 --> 00:36:27,908
Speaker 9: know about that. But the way that he runs the football,

936
00:36:27,908 --> 00:36:29,628
Speaker 9: I think he's a little more physical as a runner

937
00:36:29,708 --> 00:36:31,548
Speaker 9: and he can create on the ground. He has a

938
00:36:31,868 --> 00:36:34,348
Speaker 9: NFL level arm talent. He really doesn't. He throws a

939
00:36:34,348 --> 00:36:37,308
Speaker 9: pretty football. The problem is it's just not consistent enough.

940
00:36:37,428 --> 00:36:39,268
Speaker 9: He'll watch his tape, you can go back and check

941
00:36:39,268 --> 00:36:41,228
Speaker 9: out the film. He'll have two to three throws to

942
00:36:41,268 --> 00:36:43,628
Speaker 9: where you say, Okay, this is a Sunday.

943
00:36:43,468 --> 00:36:45,548
Speaker 3: Type of throw. This is an NFL level throw.

944
00:36:45,708 --> 00:36:47,148
Speaker 9: And then I'll have two to three throws to where

945
00:36:47,148 --> 00:36:49,308
Speaker 9: he misses a guy wide open because his footwear gets off.

946
00:36:49,428 --> 00:36:50,708
Speaker 3: He loses his accuracy.

947
00:36:50,748 --> 00:36:53,628
Speaker 9: He's got to become more consistent as a pocket passer

948
00:36:53,668 --> 00:36:55,908
Speaker 9: if he wants to be a true starter in the NFL.

949
00:36:55,948 --> 00:36:58,988
Speaker 9: But all the intangibles are there now with Milroe. Something

950
00:36:58,988 --> 00:37:00,508
Speaker 9: that showed me a lot of promise was that we

951
00:37:00,588 --> 00:37:02,828
Speaker 9: got to the combine and one of the things that

952
00:37:03,108 --> 00:37:05,308
Speaker 9: was an issue with him, like I mentioned, was accuracy.

953
00:37:05,428 --> 00:37:06,988
Speaker 3: He missed majority of his throws high.

954
00:37:07,028 --> 00:37:09,028
Speaker 9: What that tells me is that he was not getting

955
00:37:09,028 --> 00:37:10,948
Speaker 9: comfortable at the top of his drop. His footwork was off,

956
00:37:11,028 --> 00:37:13,428
Speaker 9: he was leaving his left shoulder high, he wasn't finishing

957
00:37:13,468 --> 00:37:15,468
Speaker 9: his throat right. When you're a quarterback and you're missing high,

958
00:37:15,548 --> 00:37:17,188
Speaker 9: I need you to pull down an extent right. If

959
00:37:17,228 --> 00:37:19,028
Speaker 9: you're leaving it up here, you're going to miss a

960
00:37:19,068 --> 00:37:20,828
Speaker 9: lot of throws high. Go watch the tape from the

961
00:37:20,868 --> 00:37:22,788
Speaker 9: comment that's exactly what he did. Then you go to

962
00:37:22,828 --> 00:37:23,348
Speaker 9: the pro day.

963
00:37:23,508 --> 00:37:24,148
Speaker 3: He fixed that.

964
00:37:24,228 --> 00:37:26,708
Speaker 9: Those are small mechanical issues that if you don't fix,

965
00:37:26,748 --> 00:37:28,828
Speaker 9: they'll continue to linger. But if you address them, that

966
00:37:28,828 --> 00:37:30,428
Speaker 9: tells me as a coach that you can improve and

967
00:37:30,468 --> 00:37:31,228
Speaker 9: you can take coaching.

968
00:37:31,388 --> 00:37:31,948
Speaker 3: He fixed that.

969
00:37:32,188 --> 00:37:34,148
Speaker 9: His pro day was phenomenal. He looked very comfortable and

970
00:37:34,188 --> 00:37:36,508
Speaker 9: his drop back, especially under center, had some play action,

971
00:37:36,708 --> 00:37:38,868
Speaker 9: was very accurate. Didn't miss a lot of throws high.

972
00:37:38,988 --> 00:37:41,348
Speaker 9: He is a very intriguing prospect. Like I said, Kyle,

973
00:37:41,948 --> 00:37:44,468
Speaker 9: the draft invite, I don't know how to look into that.

974
00:37:44,508 --> 00:37:45,548
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.

975
00:37:45,588 --> 00:37:47,788
Speaker 9: It does carry some weight, but overall I wouldn't be

976
00:37:47,828 --> 00:37:50,108
Speaker 9: surprised if jayaln merroll hops into that first round, but

977
00:37:50,148 --> 00:37:52,268
Speaker 9: I see him as potentially a Day two pick.

978
00:37:52,348 --> 00:37:54,788
Speaker 4: Well, let me admit something. So it'll be my first

979
00:37:54,908 --> 00:37:57,028
Speaker 4: NFL draft to attend. I'll be in Green Bay and

980
00:37:57,068 --> 00:37:59,028
Speaker 4: I will be on the stage with the first round

981
00:37:59,108 --> 00:38:02,268
Speaker 4: draft picks. Anyone that is left over, Tom Pellizero from

982
00:38:02,308 --> 00:38:04,148
Speaker 4: the first round, who might be a second round guy,

983
00:38:04,508 --> 00:38:08,548
Speaker 4: I stay in Green Bay and interview that person, that athlete.

984
00:38:08,588 --> 00:38:10,988
Speaker 4: They get their moment on the stage. So if Jalen

985
00:38:11,068 --> 00:38:14,148
Speaker 4: Milroe is the one or two players left over, he's

986
00:38:14,148 --> 00:38:17,828
Speaker 4: getting his interview up there. So the conversation is happening regardless.

987
00:38:18,148 --> 00:38:22,468
Speaker 4: Jalen Milroe, fascinating, intriguing, Tom, whatever adjective you want to use.

988
00:38:22,708 --> 00:38:25,268
Speaker 4: The future, is someone's going to pick him? And what

989
00:38:25,308 --> 00:38:27,388
Speaker 4: are you hearing in terms of what team might take him,

990
00:38:27,428 --> 00:38:28,308
Speaker 4: where he might go and.

991
00:38:28,268 --> 00:38:29,308
Speaker 3: Why is he going to Green Bay?

992
00:38:29,988 --> 00:38:34,828
Speaker 7: The eye opening thing that several, not one, several coaches

993
00:38:34,868 --> 00:38:37,348
Speaker 7: and scouts told me as I was making calls. But

994
00:38:37,388 --> 00:38:41,148
Speaker 7: all these quarterbacks is Jalen Milroe is the greatest runner

995
00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:44,108
Speaker 7: of the football they've ever evaluated at the quarterback position,

996
00:38:44,508 --> 00:38:48,188
Speaker 7: not Lamar Jackson. Jalen Milroe is the best runner that

997
00:38:48,228 --> 00:38:48,948
Speaker 7: they've ever seen.

998
00:38:49,028 --> 00:38:49,708
Speaker 8: Cody Sidek.

999
00:38:49,708 --> 00:38:51,748
Speaker 7: He's got a big arm, and he actually has some

1000
00:38:51,788 --> 00:38:54,788
Speaker 7: accuracy down the field. But it's the consistency of that

1001
00:38:54,868 --> 00:38:58,268
Speaker 7: accuracy that's going to lead to some concerns. We just

1002
00:38:58,468 --> 00:39:01,828
Speaker 7: watched Jalen Hurts win a super Bowl. He was a

1003
00:39:01,948 --> 00:39:05,668
Speaker 7: late second round pick. If you redrafted the twenty twenty draft,

1004
00:39:06,148 --> 00:39:08,428
Speaker 7: probably make a case maybe Jalen Hurts should have come

1005
00:39:08,428 --> 00:39:10,908
Speaker 7: off the board at the bottom of round one. But

1006
00:39:10,948 --> 00:39:13,148
Speaker 7: you got to have a really clear vision for what

1007
00:39:13,188 --> 00:39:15,148
Speaker 7: you're going to do with Jalen Hurts.

1008
00:39:15,268 --> 00:39:16,388
Speaker 8: He may need to be on.

1009
00:39:16,308 --> 00:39:19,028
Speaker 7: The field in different capacities like Lamar Jackson was his

1010
00:39:19,068 --> 00:39:22,148
Speaker 7: first year until Joe Flackell got hurt and Lamar took over.

1011
00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:24,828
Speaker 7: This is going to be one of the unique stories

1012
00:39:24,868 --> 00:39:27,548
Speaker 7: in this draft. Certainly there is a possibility, Jamie, that

1013
00:39:27,628 --> 00:39:31,348
Speaker 7: somebody falls in love with the player and the person

1014
00:39:31,508 --> 00:39:34,348
Speaker 7: believes they can harness it. But this is a long

1015
00:39:34,468 --> 00:39:36,668
Speaker 7: term type of a project that you're going to have

1016
00:39:36,988 --> 00:39:38,828
Speaker 7: with Jaln Milroe. Everyone's going to have to decide what

1017
00:39:38,868 --> 00:39:41,228
Speaker 7: the value is that when it comes to the draft night, Tom.

1018
00:39:41,028 --> 00:39:42,228
Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie to you. It's a little

1019
00:39:42,268 --> 00:39:45,348
Speaker 4: triggering when you say best runner of the football at

1020
00:39:45,348 --> 00:39:48,428
Speaker 4: the quarterback position, Kyle, is that not insane for you

1021
00:39:48,468 --> 00:39:48,788
Speaker 4: to hear?

1022
00:39:49,268 --> 00:39:52,308
Speaker 5: It's incredible? I mean, listen, Lamar's the name that jumps out.

1023
00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:55,828
Speaker 5: But remember Lamar's draft process was very unconventional, didn't run

1024
00:39:55,868 --> 00:39:58,108
Speaker 5: a forty. Oh, there was a lot of mystery around him.

1025
00:39:58,548 --> 00:40:01,228
Speaker 5: Jalen Millrose right there, he's doing every show. He blazed

1026
00:40:01,228 --> 00:40:03,108
Speaker 5: this forty. He's got all the tape, and it's like,

1027
00:40:03,748 --> 00:40:04,228
Speaker 5: I think if.

1028
00:40:04,188 --> 00:40:06,228
Speaker 8: Some like Anthony Richardson, who.

1029
00:40:06,188 --> 00:40:09,948
Speaker 5: He had that label project project, very inexperienced, didn't start

1030
00:40:09,948 --> 00:40:11,708
Speaker 5: a lot of games, but oh my god, you see

1031
00:40:11,748 --> 00:40:12,628
Speaker 5: him do that backflip.

1032
00:40:12,908 --> 00:40:15,708
Speaker 6: He goes fourth overall. I mean fourth overall.

1033
00:40:15,868 --> 00:40:18,188
Speaker 5: So I just come back to it, and I have

1034
00:40:18,268 --> 00:40:20,148
Speaker 5: to be candid about this. I hated here in the

1035
00:40:20,228 --> 00:40:21,588
Speaker 5: Jaylen Milro was attending the draft.

1036
00:40:21,668 --> 00:40:23,508
Speaker 3: I get nervous.

1037
00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:25,868
Speaker 5: I don't like seeing those kids sit there and sit

1038
00:40:25,948 --> 00:40:28,068
Speaker 5: there and then go home and not get drafted.

1039
00:40:28,068 --> 00:40:28,868
Speaker 6: I think it's humiliating.

1040
00:40:29,068 --> 00:40:31,028
Speaker 5: And I think that we see it for years, and

1041
00:40:31,068 --> 00:40:34,468
Speaker 5: we saw it with you name it, Will Levis, Gino Smith, on.

1042
00:40:34,348 --> 00:40:35,908
Speaker 3: And on and on, and they leave with their family.

1043
00:40:35,948 --> 00:40:36,948
Speaker 3: I guess I don't have a team.

1044
00:40:37,148 --> 00:40:37,628
Speaker 8: I don't like.

1045
00:40:37,668 --> 00:40:39,988
Speaker 5: It makes me nervous, like as a parent almost, so

1046
00:40:40,628 --> 00:40:42,508
Speaker 5: I hope that there is some insight. And what Tom

1047
00:40:42,548 --> 00:40:45,028
Speaker 5: is saying is very interesting that someone may try to

1048
00:40:45,108 --> 00:40:46,548
Speaker 5: hit a home run with this and that we're going

1049
00:40:46,628 --> 00:40:48,548
Speaker 5: to look at his ability and that headline that Tom

1050
00:40:48,588 --> 00:40:51,108
Speaker 5: just said, and it is a headline the best runner

1051
00:40:51,148 --> 00:40:53,228
Speaker 5: of the football as a quarterback that these people have

1052
00:40:53,308 --> 00:40:57,148
Speaker 5: ever evaluated, not won several That to me says like,

1053
00:40:57,188 --> 00:40:58,468
Speaker 5: I'm going to take a shot on this guy in

1054
00:40:58,508 --> 00:40:59,868
Speaker 5: the first round, even if I have to trade in

1055
00:40:59,908 --> 00:41:00,268
Speaker 5: to do it.

1056
00:41:00,948 --> 00:41:02,988
Speaker 9: Two things, real quick, Tom p I agree, And I

1057
00:41:03,028 --> 00:41:05,308
Speaker 9: think that's the most important thing is that it only

1058
00:41:05,348 --> 00:41:06,788
Speaker 9: takes one team to fall in love with the guy

1059
00:41:06,868 --> 00:41:08,548
Speaker 9: to go take him in the first round and make

1060
00:41:08,628 --> 00:41:09,748
Speaker 9: them their pick.

1061
00:41:09,788 --> 00:41:11,388
Speaker 3: The second thing, Kyle, you gave me flashbacks.

1062
00:41:11,548 --> 00:41:13,588
Speaker 9: I was nervous because ESPN reached out to me and

1063
00:41:13,588 --> 00:41:16,468
Speaker 9: they wanted to attend my house with a camera to

1064
00:41:16,548 --> 00:41:18,188
Speaker 9: film me. Because I was somewhere in the second to

1065
00:41:18,268 --> 00:41:20,868
Speaker 9: fourth round. I said, no way, if I don't go

1066
00:41:20,908 --> 00:41:22,068
Speaker 9: in the second round, or if I don't go in

1067
00:41:22,068 --> 00:41:23,548
Speaker 9: the third round, if I don't go day two, I

1068
00:41:23,548 --> 00:41:24,948
Speaker 9: don't want to be one of those guys where the

1069
00:41:24,948 --> 00:41:26,828
Speaker 9: camera's on me and everyone's sitting there and looking like

1070
00:41:26,828 --> 00:41:29,068
Speaker 9: a SOB story and we're sad. I couldn't imagine going

1071
00:41:29,068 --> 00:41:30,188
Speaker 9: in person and that not happening.

1072
00:41:30,228 --> 00:41:31,388
Speaker 3: I know what's happened before.

1073
00:41:31,628 --> 00:41:33,548
Speaker 9: But you gave me some flashbacks right there, Kyle, because

1074
00:41:33,548 --> 00:41:35,268
Speaker 9: they actually said, we want to come set up production

1075
00:41:35,548 --> 00:41:37,308
Speaker 9: in your house, so when you get drafted, the camera

1076
00:41:37,348 --> 00:41:39,228
Speaker 9: crew will be there. Said what if I don't get drafted,

1077
00:41:39,228 --> 00:41:40,388
Speaker 9: the camera crew's going to be sitting there.

1078
00:41:40,348 --> 00:41:42,308
Speaker 3: Anyways, and now everyone's going to look sad. So that

1079
00:41:42,388 --> 00:41:43,428
Speaker 3: was a little flashback there.

1080
00:41:44,548 --> 00:41:47,348
Speaker 4: For give us if sometimes I don't come across as

1081
00:41:47,508 --> 00:41:51,148
Speaker 4: crazy impressed with the Travis Hunter two way star conversation

1082
00:41:51,188 --> 00:41:53,948
Speaker 4: because Tom Pellasaro is pulling GMFP in the morning from

1083
00:41:53,988 --> 00:41:56,948
Speaker 4: Green Bay and he's got insiders, like twenty hours later

1084
00:41:57,028 --> 00:41:59,228
Speaker 4: from green Bay, Tom do you go back to the

1085
00:41:59,268 --> 00:42:00,988
Speaker 4: hotel or do you just stay in that seat and

1086
00:42:00,988 --> 00:42:02,668
Speaker 4: make phone calls about draft decisions?

1087
00:42:02,868 --> 00:42:04,108
Speaker 8: Got about nine hours here.

1088
00:42:04,428 --> 00:42:07,428
Speaker 7: Pop across the street to grab a butterburger at Crolls West, which,

1089
00:42:07,588 --> 00:42:09,708
Speaker 7: if you're wondering, is exactly what it sounds like.

1090
00:42:10,068 --> 00:42:12,308
Speaker 8: Hamburger, big slab of butter in the middle.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, Tom pellisera butterburger and spotted count.

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Speaker 3: We love you, Cream Bay. We'll see you there in

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Speaker 3: a couple of days.