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Speaker 1: From the RAMS studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. It is February twenty twenty first,

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Off to a bad start, Off to a

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Speaker 1: bad start. It's about eleven am Pacific time, everybody, and

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Speaker 1: right now is to my right. Yeah, I know that's

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Speaker 1: the off season. It's okay, if I want right there,

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Speaker 1: you go ask the Patriots and yeah, um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we're still in the off season. We

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Speaker 1: are starting to get into the thick of the pre

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Speaker 1: draft season with the Combine coming up, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of an exciting time because you get

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Speaker 1: to start to see the next generation of guys. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, Mojoe Maurice Stones Drew just texted me and said,

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. This is like the start of the

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Speaker 1: new year, right, So it's yeah, this is the beginning.

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Speaker 1: This is where your energy starts and where you're really

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Speaker 1: building towards you know, your current season twenty eighteen. So yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a new crop of guys. Um you're

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Speaker 1: going to find out, you know, who's going to be

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Speaker 1: new Rams, Which guys have played their last snap in

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Speaker 1: a RAMS uniform. I mean, we're all starting to find

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Speaker 1: that out right now. Yeah, And that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things that I think has definitely come up this week,

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Speaker 1: is you know the fact that could the Rams kind

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Speaker 1: of move on from some guys? Could the Rams also franchise?

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Speaker 1: It's a guarantee, it's inevitable. Every single year. Teams change

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Speaker 1: when losses. The good teams, great teams and bad teams,

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Speaker 1: they all change. There's always turn on. Well, it's something

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Speaker 1: you hear about all the time when guys are in

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Speaker 1: the locker room after the last game, whether it be

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Speaker 1: in week seventeen when you're not going to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: or when you have advanced to the postseason you lose

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Speaker 1: that game. It's it's always, man, this is the last

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Speaker 1: time we're going to be together in this locker rooms

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Speaker 1: as one. You know, it happened. Roman Piffer. We were

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Speaker 1: on the same team Rams for I think five seasons,

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Speaker 1: and I remember being in San Francisco and he starts

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Speaker 1: to hug guys at the end of the year and

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Speaker 1: I didn't know why, and then I realized this might

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Speaker 1: be his last game as a Ram, and it just wow,

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Speaker 1: Roman not here didn't make sense. Wayne Gandy same thing.

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Speaker 1: We came in together. He hugged guys at the end

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Speaker 1: of I believe, nineteen ninety eight because he wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to be back here. So yeah, I mean, depending on

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Speaker 1: how your season ends, you might get stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Now for Philadelphia, those guys are going out with a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship, their teammates for life. But some of

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Speaker 1: those Eagles won't be back, right, It's just the way

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Speaker 1: the game goes. Oh, I mean even you know, thinking

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Speaker 1: back to you when you played nineteen ninety nine, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what was that kind of thing like at the end

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Speaker 1: of it. I keep telling you, man, it was the

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Speaker 1: best worst feeling ever. Literally you could feel the earth

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Speaker 1: was round right after we won and we were on

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Speaker 1: top of the world. It literally felt like that your

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Speaker 1: feet felt the round of the planet. It was odd.

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those things when you're in the moment.

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Speaker 1: But it was also a sad feeling because this was

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Speaker 1: the last game this group will ever play, right, A

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Speaker 1: lot of us will be back, some of us won't.

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Speaker 1: But in its entirety, no, it's going to change. It's

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Speaker 1: a sad feeling when that happens. Yeah, thank god had

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Speaker 1: happened in a Super Bowl after a victory, right, exactly

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Speaker 1: what you also go through the coaching change too, everything changes, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those interesting things that um I don't

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Speaker 1: know that people laughing at my Earth was around you?

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Speaker 1: Are you a world? Is? Earth is flat? Absolutely flat earth?

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Speaker 1: Personal Okay, it was just I'm trying to imagine how

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Speaker 1: like you one would feel that the Earth is round,

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Speaker 1: and I was the only thing that was coming through

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Speaker 1: my mind as I was smiling. There is like I

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Speaker 1: will never really know that because I will never play

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Speaker 1: and win a Super Bowl, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But you could be at the top of your profession.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. Okay, this is like that.

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Speaker 1: Let's put me on the couch my profession. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Um No, I don't know, but I think like they're

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Speaker 1: they're probably moments like that just in people's lives, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether it's in sports or not. You know, like when

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Speaker 1: something like that where it's like, oh my gosh, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't get much better than that. Well, there's there's like

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Speaker 1: I just I remember the thought there aren't any more

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Speaker 1: games this year. This was the last one. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the top of the planet, top of

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Speaker 1: late February early March, all that changes the business part

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Speaker 1: of the NFL, you know, steps in when you start

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Speaker 1: to lose teammates and you start to build some resentment.

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Speaker 1: Why is he not here? Why is this guy here?

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Speaker 1: And he's not sure? That's just how the business works, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but good coaches, good organizations know how to

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Speaker 1: get you through that process and get back into winning.

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Speaker 1: Is that I'm trying to figure out the best way

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Speaker 1: to wear this question, Like, is that a difficult thing

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Speaker 1: to go through mentally? Or is it more of a

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Speaker 1: that once the offseason program hits, oh yeah, we're all teammates.

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Speaker 1: Once you start throwing bags of money around, everything changes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm dead serious. Guys that are all hard

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Speaker 1: and look, LaMarcus Joiners, a guy I've been thinking about.

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Speaker 1: He was all hard. I mean he puts it on

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Speaker 1: the line for his football team. Well, his life's about

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Speaker 1: to change, you know. There's there's going to be more

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Speaker 1: money than he's ever seen. Theor I don't know for sure,

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Speaker 1: maybe his family see millions at some point. Right for LaMarcus,

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Speaker 1: for what he's given this football team, he's about to

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Speaker 1: get a significant race. Well, that's going to change some

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Speaker 1: things about him and how people see him on the

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Speaker 1: football team, right exactly. But he's one of those guys

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Speaker 1: that I do want to get into with the potential

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Speaker 1: franchise tag because the Rams really there are sort of

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Speaker 1: two candidates that people are thinking right now that the

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Speaker 1: Rams could franchise would be either LaMarcus Joiner or Sammy Watkins, right,

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Speaker 1: and there are arguments for both. I think in a

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Speaker 1: perfect world you might want to lock up those guys

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Speaker 1: so I think that's why the franchise tag comes into play. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I were in that position, I'd be

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Speaker 1: hammering the deal home with LaMarcus. I would get that

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Speaker 1: deal done because he's earned it, He's earned it in

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Speaker 1: front of Rams fans. Sure, I get that both guys

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Speaker 1: try to make sure I lock up LaMarcus because that

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Speaker 1: helps you in the locker room. That proves the guys

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Speaker 1: that if you work hard, play hard, play like LaMarcus,

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Speaker 1: you should. Sammy Watkins is a guy I can't let

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Speaker 1: hit the market either. There's just so much that, so

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Speaker 1: much left for him personally and within this offense. You know,

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Speaker 1: without Sammy, I think this offense is very, very good,

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Speaker 1: championship level. So either way, I think you can get

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Speaker 1: to where you want to go. But LaMarcus, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: has earned that extension. He's earned the right to get

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Speaker 1: that contract from the Rams, And I think that's important

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Speaker 1: that you bring up the locker room standpoint because it's

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Speaker 1: something that I don't know if people maybe take into account,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just the simple fact that

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Speaker 1: he's been there for four years, he completed his rookie contract,

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Speaker 1: He's done everything that coaches have asked him to do,

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Speaker 1: whether that's former staff or current staff. You know, he

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Speaker 1: is He's been out there when he's injured. He's been

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of person I'll take. You can take

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Speaker 1: LaMarcus I'm taking obviously, like you know, you want somebody

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Speaker 1: But you know what, but if you're with LaMarcus journey

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Speaker 1: and I think you unders going to say, but I

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Speaker 1: think it goes back to to somebody like an alc Ogletree, Right,

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Speaker 1: Guys see that alc Ogletree has been there, you know,

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Speaker 1: You see him do things the right way. And I

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Speaker 1: think to see him get that contract extension that he

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Speaker 1: received earlier in the twenty seventeen season, that I think

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Speaker 1: kind of shows what you're talking about. You know, you

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Speaker 1: to reward you. I never thought it's funny when you

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Speaker 1: watch guys play and if they ball out, no matter

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Speaker 1: where they are in their contract rookie contract or not,

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Speaker 1: regardless of experience level, like one, two, three, four years in,

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Speaker 1: I never got the feeling LaMarcus is doing this for money. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I never got that feeling at all. Yeah. Well, I

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Speaker 1: I never even saw that. Just the way he plays, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's doing this for money. Like we

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Speaker 1: and I said even more. The guy doesn't make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this the last time we did between

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Speaker 1: that's a professional. That's a guy that's a free safety

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Speaker 1: and a high impact area that doesn't commit in fractions

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Speaker 1: that's huge, and he doesn't make mistakes in coverage. Now,

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Speaker 1: out by sixty pounds, that's not something they're asking him

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Speaker 1: to do like he did in the preseason games. That's

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Speaker 1: just his mentality or never turning down a shot, always

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Speaker 1: that goes above and beyond. So when he when you

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Speaker 1: what being a RAM is like, you point to that guy.

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Speaker 1: So those are the guys you want to reward with deals. So,

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Speaker 1: like I said, if I was in those that position,

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Speaker 1: I'd make sure I get that deal done with him, right.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that I think, you know, I think, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm quite sure less Sneed is going to be asked

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Speaker 1: and we get to those kinds of things. But you

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Speaker 1: the fold, that this offense could be really, really dangerous

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Speaker 1: and I think one thing that could right playoffs level. Now,

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Speaker 1: And so I think that going to bring this all

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Speaker 1: together with the Walkings discussion, it's you have this continuity

424
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: and if you're going into year two of these things,

425
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 1: that it stands to reason that whether you know, Watkins

426
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: is back on the franchise tag or a long term deal,

427
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 1: and I think both you and I inticipate that he

428
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: will be back. Yes, I hope you get the deal

429
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 1: done with a Marcus right, Yeah, then you can do

430
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: what you need to do with Sammy, right, Yeah. But

431
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: I think because the Rams traded their second round pick

432
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 1: for Watkins like that, that's basically your second round pick

433
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: this year, right, right, so that you need him, you

434
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: can't let him go. No, No, I mean but Robert

435
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: Woods is coming back, Cooper cup is coming back. I'd

436
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: like to see what Josh Reynolds can be Pararell Cooper

437
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 1: is an all pros just a maternity. He's also a receiver.

438
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: So it's not like the cupboard is bare. But like

439
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 1: we said, this offense can be very very good without

440
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: a Sammy Watkins. With him though, it changes every team, right,

441
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you become elite. Think about that. We just

442
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: spent how long talking about the offense and we didn't

443
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: even mention Todd. Girl, No, I know that's pretty nuts.

444
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: He is still the tip of the steer. But I mean,

445
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: when you think about how this offense and how offenses

446
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 1: attack defenses, if you can add that guy, a guy

447
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: of Sammy Watkins' ability outside the numbers, with Todd Gurley

448
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 1: hammering the middle, I mean, you don't know what to

449
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: do as a Defender's not much you can call. And

450
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: we've already I think seen that kind of thing because

451
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: those downfield throws that he that that Jared Goff and

452
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: Watkins were able to connect on in games like the

453
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco game and like um when they play the

454
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: New York Giants. You know, those I feel like opened

455
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: up some more things because even if Watkins is not

456
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: the most comfortable and Goff is not the most comfortable

457
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: as he could be throwing to that guy, there's still

458
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: that threat. And so as long as there's a threat,

459
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: it's something that defenses have to worry about. True, I mean,

460
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: there's a trust there. I mean, Jared Goff did a

461
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: great great job protecting the football right he was and

462
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: he was smart. He was aggressive, but smart with the football.

463
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: You have to trust a guy in a vertical route

464
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: that if I put it out there, you're gonna have

465
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: to make a play on it. Yeah. Yeah, You're gonna

466
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: have to make me look good as well as yourself.

467
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: So if you can't get it, make sure they don't.

468
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: You do get it, put it in the end zone.

469
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: So I think all that stuff comes with comfort, Yeah, exactly.

470
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 1: So this is definitely going to be interesting to monitor

471
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks. I mean, Mark sixth

472
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: is the date that teams must designate their franchise players,

473
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Speaker 1: so that opened up yesterday, February twentieth, so we will

474
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Speaker 1: either know, you know, by maybe by the time you

475
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: guys listening to this, there will have been some news

476
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: in some of our discussion will have been irrelevant, which

477
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: would be a little different. I hope the news isn't shocking. Yeah,

478
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: I find that it would be, yeah, shocking. Yeah, yeah,

479
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean I want to get back to talking about

480
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: paying Aaron Donnel, do you. I mean, that's normal, That's

481
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: that's normal, that's everyday talk for what this team is

482
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I hope there's no

483
00:23:54,280 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: wrinkle that disrupts the harmony because I mean, look, look

484
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: what you've done in year one. Think about what you

485
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: can do in year two under Wade Phillips and just

486
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: in the Sean McVay, Yes, just I hope you don't

487
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: have the wrinkle or the ripple or the speed bump

488
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: in the business section of the of the year that

489
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: disrupts all that well, because look, obviously Eric Donald is

490
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: an All Pro Defensive Player of the Year, and I

491
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: think he's shown why he's going to break your defensive

492
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: tackle sack record. He already did, didn't he know, not

493
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: in a single season. Oh no, no, he'll never get that.

494
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: He was a half sack away for those who don't know,

495
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: and he should have had he should have had it

496
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: actually in fact. But it's funny because that there was

497
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: that play it was in Tennessee where sack Mariota, Mariota

498
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: fumbled and the only reason it was not a sack

499
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: is because Mariota recovered his own fumble. Right, isn't that ridiculous?

500
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: It sucks, It happens, It really does. It's it's yeah,

501
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: it really makes your head. Yes, yes, I can imagine

502
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: that are penalties that your team takes that takes away

503
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: a sack? Oh yeah, a that that really burns. It

504
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: helps you though, what are you gonna say, there's a

505
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: hole and then instead of the hole instead you'd still

506
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: be on the field, right yeah, yeah, sometimes that thing

507
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: you didn't go that's right. Um, So more things that

508
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: you know might come out at in the combine. Look,

509
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: there's there's been that discussion of Okay, who are players

510
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: that the Rams might move on from and like the

511
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: three names that can come up? Yeah, because it's it's

512
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: it's it's unfortunate because I think from our perspective, especially,

513
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: we know these guys as people and we know the

514
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: time they put in, and I mean especially you as

515
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: a former player like that, I think it's far different

516
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: from you and from that perspective than it is from

517
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: the fan perspective. We'll just go man, you know, like

518
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: that's because at the other side of that, as guys

519
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: know when their time is up, they do. I mean,

520
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: you're smart, you're in the room, you understand it. For

521
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: the most part. There there's always you know, these shocked

522
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: things that come out that happen to you or people

523
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: around you. But for the most part, you know, you

524
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: have an idea, what's coming, what's the young guy that's

525
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: behind you. It goes back to what you were saying

526
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: about guys hunting other people in the locker room at

527
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: the end of the season. Yeah. Yeah, guys, guys kind

528
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: of know what's happened. They know the business side, they're

529
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: experienced by it. I Mean, the one thing you have

530
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: to evaluate as a franchise is is this guy's production

531
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: is he is he more important to us for what

532
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: he gives us in the locker room or what he's

533
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: given us on the football field. For most guys, it's

534
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: just about fuel production. But for that small few of

535
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: those veteran guys. Sometimes when you let one of those

536
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: guys go, you a lot more walks out the door

537
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: than just numbers, right, Yeah, and you have to be

538
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 1: smart about that, right and not to like not to

539
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: talk about the Browns just because I'm from Cleveland. But

540
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: I go back to something that I kept reading after

541
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: the Browns released Joe Hayden at the end of training

542
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: camp in last year, in twenty seventeen, before the team

543
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: proceeded to go oh in sixteen, but that those two

544
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: things may or may not be related anyway, they released

545
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden, right, And I think Joe Thomas said this

546
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: on his podcast that he does with Andrew Hawkins. I

547
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: think he was saying, Look, that really deflated the locker

548
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: room because it's kind of what you're saying. It's a

549
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: veteran there are. This is a guy that had been

550
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: with Cleveland Browns for years and years and years, and

551
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: it means something to that team to see that guy

552
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: and know how he works every day. And so I

553
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: think that's what you're saying. When you're losing a veteran,

554
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: sometimes you're not just losing numbers, You're not just losing

555
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: what production that you think may or may not be

556
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: coming out of that player. Yeah, you could be losing

557
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: some of spree de corps man. I mean just I

558
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: mean breaking out the French on the Between the Horns podcast.

559
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: Think about how the how we feel, how you feel

560
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: as a fan watching Todd Gurley run. Oh yeah, Now

561
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: imagine me and his teammate going into that game. You know,

562
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: imagine being like Tom Brady's teammate. Everything's gonna be fine

563
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: no matter what because we have him. We have this guy.

564
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: It's funny. I mean, guys in the locker room after

565
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: that Tennessee game where Todd Gurley, you know, he goes

566
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: eighty yards on the screen, It's like, yeah, we know

567
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: we got the MVP. Now, all of a sudden, that

568
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: guy's gone. For a business decision. What it doesn't make sense,

569
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't compute. You're talking out out of one side

570
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: of your neck. It's all about wins. Well, we need

571
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: good players to win. And then you remove that guy, well,

572
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: it does the opposite. It just deflates you. I understand

573
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: that completely. Yeah, it's like, what are we doing here exactly?

574
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: And so that's something that I think, Look, the rams

575
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: are gonna have to work through all thirty two teams

576
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: have to work through it, and Philadelphia is doing it right,

577
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: right exactly. Well, you know you see this stuff about

578
00:28:54,520 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: yeah we'll Philadelphia. That's the problem with well, you got

579
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: to do all this when you're hung over. It's a

580
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: good problem, but it's it's interesting. I mean, you always

581
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: have to make these business decisions that you weigh them

582
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: against the football and so well, we will probably find

583
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: out more about those kinds of things as free agency approaches.

584
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: That's going to start March fourteenth this year, which I

585
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: feel like is a little bit later than usual. I

586
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: don't know, am I crazy? Maybe? Well, yeah, you're crazy,

587
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean maybe not for that particular reason. It sounds normal. Yeah, yeah,

588
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's around this time of year,

589
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: it is y. Yeah. So but the combine, obviously is

590
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: next week we'll get to hear from Sean McVeagh, we'll

591
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: get to hear from less Sneed and really it's the

592
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: first time that we'll do that in in a real

593
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: press setting since the end of the season. Yeah, and obviously,

594
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean I guess we did hear from Sean mcvah

595
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: at NFL Honors, but more or less about the football

596
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: team and what this team might look like in twenty eighteen.

597
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: That that's what we start to hear at the combine.

598
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: You know, I just would love to be a fly

599
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: on the wall with him just to see what he comes. Now.

600
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: He's never going to tell you we might not have

601
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: a chan it's to draft that guy. But I just

602
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: wonder what he covets coming out of college. Yeah, yeah,

603
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: what position he really likes? What position do you think

604
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: the Rams maybe should addressed through the draft? Wow? And

605
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I know that's a really loaded question, especially for February

606
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: twenty First, well, the easy question, the easy answer would

607
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: be all of them evaluate everything. Yes, you know there

608
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: are guys that are healing right now that played great

609
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: for you, that went to the Pro Bowl, that are

610
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: healing up next right now. But I mean, look, I

611
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: think you have to find that nose tackle. I think

612
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: that was a revolving door. And I think that you

613
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: got through the year, but that's a position that can

614
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: be better. Um, I think you need to get more

615
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: out of the tight end position. We talked about that.

616
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: I think you have the talent in the room already. Uh,

617
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: some tweaks and turns and maybe some knowledge just like

618
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Jared Goff Gerald Everett, I think is going to be

619
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: better in the offense. So maybe that goes away in

620
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: in the OTA, so you might not need a body there.

621
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: The business might might determine what you needed outside linebacker. Yeah,

622
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Yeah, especially in a three four

623
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: that's dependent on edge rushers outside of Aaron Donald m

624
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna need some guys that can turn that corner.

625
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Now do you have Robert Quinn? That's a question, don't

626
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: it is? Yeah. I mean he's also been talked about

627
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: in these same conversations with LaMarcus and Sammy Watchett. So, um,

628
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: there's a dearth or or there's some talented outside backer.

629
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: There's some guys out there that can transition from a

630
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: three point stands to an upstance and rush. Yeah, so

631
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys out there coming out, So

632
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: I'd be looking there too. Um. I'd never say no

633
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: to linebackers inside linebacker. Yeah, I'm always looking to upgrade

634
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: that spot. So, uh, those are some spots that I

635
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: would be looking for. Now. I'm a defensive minded guy,

636
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: you are, Um, I don't think i'd say no to

637
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: another corner, especially in the same business scenario that we're

638
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: talking about. I might be down my best corner if

639
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: Tremaine Johnson doesn't come back, So that's definitely more and more.

640
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: That's definitely an area I'd be paying attention to, and

641
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: look if there's another receiver out there. I like. If

642
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: I lose people on defense, it's hard to replace guys

643
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: one to one. Right, you lose the tremaind I gain

644
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: a corner. It's never that simple. I might lose the

645
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: Tremaine and gain two more guys on offense, you know,

646
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I might take less pressure. I might take

647
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: pressure off the off the defense because of what I'm

648
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: doing on offense. So that's why I said I'd love

649
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: to be with Sean McVay to see what he covets

650
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: coming out of college. Yeah, it's interesting the way that

651
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: analysts have sort of started to project what they think

652
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: the rams will start looking at, because I don't know,

653
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: do you do you pay attention to mock drafts at all?

654
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: I do. It's fun to see how they change. Some

655
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: guys are dead on, some guys are way off. You

656
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: can always tell the guys that are doing it for clickbait.

657
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: He usually involves the quarterbacks. Yes, yeah, absolutely, And but

658
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: that's that's the interesting thing about this, you know, this

659
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: entire process in the off season. I did not used

660
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: to like mock drafts. I used to be very staunchly

661
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: against them, Like I don't understand why are we like

662
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: praising people who just get things wrong all the time? Right,

663
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Like it still bugs me when people talk about draft experts.

664
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: There are no real draft experts. They're all analysts. Well

665
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: there's some here's the thing with if you do a

666
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: composite of all the mock drafts, I'd say they get

667
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: the top twenty five names correct, Okay, exactly right, the

668
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: orders just different. Yeah. Now that's where you start speculating, right,

669
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: this team's gonna take this guy. Wait a minutemut? How

670
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: do you know? Right? But as far as the top

671
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: twenty five, as long as the names are king, okay, yes,

672
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: that I will agree with you. One. It's that when

673
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: you have guys that are talking about your top twenty

674
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: five prospects. You, you're Mike Mayox, You're Daniel jeremiahs. They

675
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: they really do they know what exactly what. I don't either.

676
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: He always holds like a conference call um every year,

677
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: like right before the Combine, and then I think he

678
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: does a press conference at the combine too. These things

679
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: last so long and reporters ask him about pretty much anybody,

680
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: and he knows who they are. You ever heard that name? No,

681
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: he was like one of the first guys. This is

682
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: like way back before he did it with magazines. So

683
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: it's something that you would know that I would not know.

684
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: He's kind of from that vein. I mean, it's not

685
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: just what he does, it's who he is, right, Yeah,

686
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: that's so Mayac doesn't sleep No, Yeah, I'm with him. Yes, yeah,

687
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: but when you and he'll say it, when he starts

688
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: speculating about this team might take this, well, you don't

689
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: really know, right, you know, right, So that's just the

690
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: way that goes. Yes. So anyway, your point was my

691
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: My point is simply that I think I've evolved in

692
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: my thinking on mock draft because it's more or less

693
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: about scenarios. So, you know, if this guy's off the board,

694
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: this team could take this guy. If this guy's off

695
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: the board, this team could take this guy. You're you're

696
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: a couple of positions that this team might want to address, right,

697
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: And it just gives us something to talk about. Basically retirements.

698
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: And this is funny. If you had a mock draft

699
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: out and it did not change after the Alex Smith moved,

700
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: I will never go back to your mock draft because

701
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: everything just changed. It did. Yeah, there's going to be

702
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: quarterback movement. U certain teams that are quarterback needy might

703
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: not be. So this is all going to be fluid

704
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: until everything is set in stone. Were you surprised by

705
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: that trade since you brought it up? Um? No, Nellie, No,

706
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean you heard rumors that they were going to

707
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: move on from Alex Smith. Yeah, once they drafted Mahomes,

708
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: So you knew that was going to happen at some point, Um,

709
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: and that Washington was gonna waffle. They've still they're still

710
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: waffling on Kirk Cousins. I know. Yeah. So no shock

711
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: there from from both teams. I guess what the more

712
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: the more surprising aspect to me was that Smith went

713
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: to Washington because I have always been convinced, despite what

714
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: people have said, that Washington was not going to let

715
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins out of that building. Because when you have

716
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback who is a franchise quarterback, and people can

717
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: go back and forth probably about that but I think

718
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is a franchise quarterback. Those guys don't usually

719
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: hit the market. I mean the last real franchise quarterback

720
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: to hit the market was probably Peyton Man. Oh yeah, yeah, right,

721
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? I mean back in and that's

722
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: back in twenty yeah. And before that, what Drew Brees.

723
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen. I mean, you can say maybe Brett Farb,

724
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: but obviously when Brett fob did it, he was on

725
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: the decline of his career. How much money is he

726
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: going to command Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins a lot. I

727
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: think that's the other thing for Washington too. I do

728
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: think he's a franchise quarterback. He better, said Alex Smith.

729
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Who's better? Uh, it depends on who their coaches.

730
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. Cousins is better by how much? Not

731
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: a lot? That yeah? Right, Okay, Now who's cheaper, well,

732
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, your

733
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: cost benefit analysis, Yeah, I mean that right, they're about

734
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, I mean I think Cousins is probably

735
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: better making downfield throws, okay, and Alex doesn't make a

736
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes. No, yeah, right, always going to run

737
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: the offense, right he is. So that's what I'm saying

738
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: when it's even go with the less expensive guy. Okay, yeah,

739
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: well and that's that just appears to be what they've done.

740
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: But now, like, okay, so on February twenty first, who

741
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: is your prediction for where is your prediction of where

742
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins lands? Wow? Um, wasn't that Jared Goff that

743
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: said please don't wind up in Arizona? Yes, he did

744
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: sit with him on that. Yeah, I mean seeing what

745
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: Garoppolo did in San Francisco, not just on the field,

746
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: what he did to that fan base and the whole organization. Yeah,

747
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: they're a different squad. Now. I hope that Kirk Cousins

748
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 1: doesn't wind up in Arizona for the very same reason. Yeah. Yeah,

749
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: if Washington doesn't want you, it didn't treat you well,

750
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: didn't appreciate your ability. Well, Arizona will. Yes, they will

751
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: absolutely appreciate everything you can give them. So that would

752
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: be scary, m boy. It would really change the dynamic

753
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: in the NFC West in terms of quarterbacks. I mean,

754
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: like what really, I mean what you can look at

755
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: top to bottom from a division standpoint and say, wow,

756
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: what division is better than that? Yeah, in terms of

757
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and term quarterback situations for the next five to

758
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: seven years. It's changed how I think people cover the

759
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: NFC West. It used to just be about Seattle, right, yeah,

760
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: and everyone else in the division. You know what I mean. Yes,

761
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: now it's completely different. It is. Yeah, that's what happens

762
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: when you know, teams get the hat that you're wearing champions,

763
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: they all move up to the top of the NFCA.

764
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different. So, I mean, that's

765
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: the one place I hope he doesn't go. Um, do

766
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: you believe in Blake Bortles the way he finished? Another

767
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: great question? So yeah, um, what's I think the Giants

768
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: are gonna stick with ELI It seems that way, and

769
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: they could draft a young guy or two over, which

770
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: is what I would do if I mean, the only

771
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: place I think you you're guaranteed not to see Kirk

772
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: Cousins is in Washington. And even that's not for certain,

773
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: right because they were the reports about the franchise tag

774
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: and some things like that. Who knows where he's gonna go.

775
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: I just hope it's not Arizona. Yeah, Yeah, Okay. I

776
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: mean I think he might end up in Denver. Denver

777
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: seems like it would be a good fit. And I've

778
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: seen those reports that the Jets are going to come

779
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: after him with all they have, everything they have, What

780
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: else do they have? I don't know. Okay, New York's

781
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: a great place. I was just there over the weekend,

782
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: big fan. It's just money. It's all about cash. Any

783
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: chance to win there. If you're Kirk Cousins, yes, I

784
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: think if you're a good enough quarterback, top holes is

785
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: a good defensive now, yes, I think so. I think that.

786
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: I mean, well, there you're in a division with Tom

787
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: Brady and the Buffalo Bills have just been to the

788
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: playoffs and Miami, and you just sad, thank you? You

789
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: know where I was going. Yeah, I guess I guess

790
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: that's maybe incorrect. Right. Well, you can, I don't know,

791
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: you could always be rich. You can have a solid

792
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: gold toilet in your house. You can, especially in New York,

793
00:39:54,680 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: ringless but with a solid gold toilet. Um, I guess

794
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: that's just the way it works out right. Um. But

795
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: the NFL Combine? Do you look forward to this event

796
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: every year? I do? Um, it used to be for

797
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: what happens on the field. Now, it's less what happens

798
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: on the field the actual work that's done. I mean,

799
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: the forty yard dash is always fun. I just love

800
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: blazing speed. Do you like it when the fat men

801
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: have to run it? Offensive one defensive? I want to

802
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: see what jiggles I do. I could care less what

803
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: you run. I mean when you see an offensive line

804
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: offensive linemen run a four seven, I mean that does

805
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: it impresses me, But that doesn't help. It doesn't mean much.

806
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't help, right, Um, But I just want to

807
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: see athletes, big athletes, not big fat guys. That makes sense. Yes,

808
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: I want to see a guy that takes care of

809
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: his body. I guess that did sound weird, Sei, Yeah,

810
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: never mind that out, Um, so underwear Olympics to Winter Olympics.

811
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: Have you been keeping track of the Winter Olympics at all?

812
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: A little bit? A little bit, A little bit a

813
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: little bit? Do you not like the Olympics so you're

814
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: not a bit more of a summer Olympic guys? Really?

815
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: To be honest, yeah, I mean the ice stuff I'm

816
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: not really a fan of because I mean, I don't ski,

817
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't snowboard. I don't really either. Yeah, So I

818
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: mean I don't have a connection with with those sports.

819
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean the the ice dancing, the figure skating, and

820
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's always fun to watch. Is impressive, yes, yeah,

821
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: it is really impressive. You know. Also we were in

822
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: the training room last week. We're doing a story on

823
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Cavon Webster in his rehab, which you guys should definitely

824
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: check out um once it comes out on the Rams

825
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: dot com. But it was funny to watch those guys

826
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: watch the Olympics. These are world class athletes, I mean

827
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: football players, and they're looking at I think it was

828
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: speed skating on the short track ever see that, Yeah yeah,

829
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: and they're basically like, I could not do this. Yeah

830
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: I bet you could. I mean it's I mean it's

831
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: it's it's flat out strength and speed. They could do it.

832
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: It's something that's familiar. Yes, that's that's I mean, it's

833
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: it's the guy next to you, I'm racing you. You

834
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: can understand that versus being judged. It's just being it's

835
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: on ice and the skating aspect of it, and that's

836
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: know what they're talking. They're like, you have like knives

837
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: on your feed, Like what are you pretty much. One

838
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: thing that um I will bring out before we leave

839
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: is that the figure skating. So I'm really into when

840
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: they fall. Gosh, you're me, I know, And I don't

841
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Speaker 1: like it when the Americans fall. I know. I don't

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Speaker 1: like when the Americans don't a lot. We already know this,

843
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: but so I've been putting You don't have Instagram, so

844
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: you don't know, but I've been putting on my Instagram

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00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: story basically like when like I've been watching the figure

846
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Speaker 1: skating and then when the people fall, like I put

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Speaker 1: it on the Instagram story. It's it is so funny.

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00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: It's hilarious because then you hear like Johnny We're and

849
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Speaker 1: Tara Leapinski He's like, oh big mistake there, and like,

850
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Speaker 1: sobody just go. I think I heard about you in

851
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Speaker 1: like an episode of Criminal Minds or something that's bad. Yeah,

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00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: you like to watch people get hurt? No, I'm not.

853
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't want no, no, no, I don't want them

854
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Speaker 1: to get hurt. I just kind of like with without pads,

855
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Speaker 1: it's going to hurt. It's guaranteed the hurt. I guess

856
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Speaker 1: ken have quite thought of it that way. Hockey players

857
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Speaker 1: don't do that, right, No, But I want to be clear,

858
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Speaker 1: Like I think what figure skaters do is really cool.

859
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: It really incredibly like you're you're going up in the air,

860
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Speaker 1: I do like you go up in the air and

861
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Speaker 1: then they spend three times, four times, and then they

862
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Speaker 1: come back down and land and like flourish with their arms.

863
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: That must be some of the hardest things in the world.

864
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Speaker 1: But I am a big believer in schadenfreude, and that

865
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: is a German word for taking pleasure at the misfortune

866
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: of others. It's wrong with you a lot. Oh my good,

867
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: that's all right. You need to be a linebacker. See.

868
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: I think if you were actually a football player, you

869
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: would be Vontez perfect that might I think that would

870
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Speaker 1: be you, I really do. I think you would take

871
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Speaker 1: pleasure in hurting people. No, no, no, no, no no,

872
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Speaker 1: because it's different. Like I play within the confines of

873
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: the rules. Oh when I was playing off that's that's different.

874
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: You gotta be smart, tough, focused and physical. That was

875
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: the montra I always used to tell myself, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: something VB. How you doing. Do you have any party

877
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: shots before we get out of here? No good stuff, man, um, yeah,

878
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: just fun getting back into it. Can't wait. Happy New Year,

879
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Speaker 1: Happy new league year. Yes, yeah, we're often running for

880
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Speaker 1: for twenty eighteen. I hope that Greg zerline gets better soon. Yes,

881
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: I hope everybody that's alien gets better soon. Yeah, for sure.

882
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: And that's what this this time is about, you know,

883
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: making sure that you can get your body right for

884
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: the next season and hopefully everything is is good. I

885
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: do have a party shot. I bet you can agree

886
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: with me in the soundtrack of my life or let

887
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: me say the soundtrack of my life, everything included, friends, family, kids,

888
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Speaker 1: what happened? Yes, Fergie is in there. She is in there.

889
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: She's got some songs that really like impact me because

890
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Speaker 1: of what I was going through at the moment. Glamorous,

891
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. Big girls don't cry. That's a

892
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: big song to me. Daughter, Right, that's okay, big deal.

893
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: So I can give her a pass. You'll give her

894
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: a pass. Everyone lay is an egg once or twice. Yeah, yeah,

895
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: she apologiz. Gerald drops passes every now and then, and

896
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: he's going to still be in the league in twenty

897
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: eight and he's headed right to the Hall of Fame.

898
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Speaker 1: Can everyone can forgive for I think we can forgive forgive,

899
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Speaker 1: But at least she knows that that is not something

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Speaker 1: she should have done, and she will probably never ever

901
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Speaker 1: do it. Michael Jordan's juding percentage is not a hundred Okay,

902
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: neither is Lebron's. Everybody misses a shot too. Everybody misses

903
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: a shadow dunk like you miss one hundred percent of

904
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: the shots you don't take right exactly. That's why body,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for duning into this edition of

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns for DeMarco Farr, Miles Simmons. We'll see

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Speaker 1: an next Fatma