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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And I just

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Speaker 2: All love folk.

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Speaker 1: You guys are having a great New Year's accomplishing all

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Speaker 1: your New Year's resolutions and staying healthy.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We got an incredible guest cornerback of the Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you joining me, brother, Yes, indeed, Cardiac Bears.

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Speaker 2: Cardiac Bears. Boy. I'll tell you what tough tough, y'all.

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Speaker 1: What I'll say is when you on the team, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure like the feeling of ultimate, you know, almost like

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Speaker 1: the roller coaster. It makes you feel almost invincible because

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Speaker 1: you get you keep getting, you guys, sales and situations

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Speaker 1: like this, but you always get yourselves out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So does it give you, guys a sense of confidence

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Speaker 1: and a sense of reassurance that hey, regardless of how

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Speaker 1: it looks at the beginning, we could pull it off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: It is crazy because I mean every time we go

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Speaker 4: into the game, of course to start, for hass, let's

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Speaker 4: not put ourselves in those positions, and somehow, some way

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Speaker 4: we end up in the damn positions anyway, So it's

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Speaker 4: been really crazy for us because I mean that's we

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Speaker 4: preach not being in those positions. But of course when

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Speaker 4: we do get in them, we have the poison and

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Speaker 4: confidence to get ourselves out of it.

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Speaker 3: But it's definitely not ideal for us.

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Speaker 1: Well, this has been a great year for you guys,

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Speaker 1: your team overall. Obviously you got a little banged up,

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Speaker 1: but you came back. How you feeling now.

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Speaker 3: I mean every week is a fight.

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Speaker 4: I think, really just continue to talk about it and

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Speaker 4: just be open about it. But I'm nowhere near close

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Speaker 4: to my full self and feeling comfortable. I mean I've

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Speaker 4: told chatting them the other day like man, I've been

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Speaker 4: taking numbing shots and all these different things to just

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Speaker 4: try to haveway be out there, trying to finish practices

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Speaker 4: throughout the week and just really just fighting. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: for myself, it's just getting back to being comfortable as

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Speaker 4: best as I can. I mean, putting in an extra

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Speaker 4: work of course, outside of the facility to give myself

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Speaker 4: the best chance to succeed. But I mean I'm feeling

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling better. I'm getting better, and that's all I

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Speaker 4: can ask for right now. Just continue to strap up

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Speaker 4: and get my team a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: That was your first playoff game or first playoff win?

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Speaker 1: Tell me how that felt.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it felt great.

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Speaker 4: I think it's funny because it's long time as I

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Speaker 4: haven't been able to get there. It felt it felt good,

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Speaker 4: It felt natural, felt something that I'm used to doing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've always been a winner at heart, but.

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Speaker 4: Just to be able to have it come to fruition

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Speaker 1: And and you know, I've dealt with it before, just

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Speaker 1: playing a division team in the playoffs, it's so much familiarity,

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Speaker 1: it's so much so many underlying whole rivalries and like

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Speaker 1: little animosity. You know, they talked.

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Speaker 3: About my little Yeah now you're good.

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Speaker 1: But but talk about that and talk about just playing

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers for a third time for for

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Speaker 1: such a you know, for a winner go home right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was to the point it definitely gets spicy.

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Speaker 4: It definitely gets a little more more than just I

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Speaker 4: would say, the winner going home. I think it between

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Speaker 4: of course receivers and DB's it's always personal, but you

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Speaker 4: felt that a little more I would say out there

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Speaker 4: but really just taking it personal. I think that was

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Speaker 4: the biggest thing, especially for us on defense, coming out

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Speaker 4: mean it was almost twenty one. Oh, that's normal, you

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Speaker 4: give up the sticks on that. So for us, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: for us, it was just man, take it personal. We

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Speaker 4: we ain't had nothing but fighting. It's that whole second half.

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Speaker 1: So what was that conversation like in the locker room

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Speaker 1: at halftime, Because I've been part of that those conversations.

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Speaker 1: It's we were down sixteen NFC Championship against Green Bay,

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Speaker 3: It was definitely that I think too. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: There and this, come on, God, you got to know

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Speaker 4: it's like that talking ain't gonna help us winning right now,

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Speaker 4: because I mean we came into the game talking hype,

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Speaker 4: and doing going over all. This is going over that.

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Speaker 4: But talking doesn't help you execute. And I know for

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Speaker 4: us on defense, we needed to get out there and

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Speaker 4: have our eyes in the right spots and execute. And truthfully,

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Speaker 4: and situations where we'll give him some some touchdowns and

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Speaker 4: things like that. So it's really just calming down, slowing down,

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Speaker 4: and then going out there and just attacking and playing aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the perfect playoff like vibe

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Speaker 1: and mindset on the field. It's right between you. You know,

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Speaker 1: the hype, you know what I mean, running around and screaming.

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Speaker 1: But it's not the like two calm too boys. It's

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Speaker 1: it's hey, indicators, indicators, indicators, thenni's minute ago. Yes, as

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Speaker 1: soon as I get my indicators, bang this that I'm here,

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Speaker 1: we communicate it. Now I'm flying, flying with my hair

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Speaker 1: on fire. And that's that's what it looked like y'all

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Speaker 1: did in the second half. No, that was that was

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing for sure.

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Speaker 4: I know KB, he's he's been around and been in

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Speaker 4: these big time games, and the biggest thing he was

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Speaker 4: saying is man, we gotta we gotta just execute. We

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Speaker 4: gotta get our eyes in the right spot and not

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Speaker 4: just talking and doing all those who rah And that

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Speaker 4: just keep fighting, just just keep fighting. And then slowly

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Speaker 4: but surely we start chipping away at the bid, we

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Speaker 4: start getting stops, we start building confidence, and then the

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Speaker 4: table started to turn in our favor.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about kV. He got another

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Speaker 1: All Proach year, and it's late in this year. People

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Speaker 1: thought he was done and he turns it around and

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Speaker 1: has one of the best years of his career. Talk

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Speaker 1: about the impact that he's had in the balance and

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Speaker 1: calm that he brings.

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Speaker 2: To the back end.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's been a blessing I think for me

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Speaker 4: just now of course on the football side, but just

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Speaker 4: talk to him, get to know him. He's definitely been

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Speaker 4: somebody that has made a huge impact on our room,

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Speaker 4: he goes about handling business and I mean even just

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Speaker 4: taking care of your body. I know he put me

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Speaker 4: didn't know this until a few weeks ago, Like he'd

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Speaker 4: never missed the game. So just like little things like that,

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Speaker 4: it's like, dam you've been regimented for so long, you've

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Speaker 4: and see why he is the way that he is.

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Speaker 4: And he's definitely been somebody that I love to be around.

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Speaker 4: But first and foremost, I mean he's he's an intelling.

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Speaker 4: The guy's IQ is off the charts, and he's moving

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Speaker 4: really well. I know just talking to him, he doesn't

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Speaker 4: feel like the age that he years and the years

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Speaker 4: lot of teams, not really knowing what he'd be. But

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Speaker 4: he's still liked that obviously as you can see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still getting it done at a high level.

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Speaker 2: And young na.

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Speaker 1: Sean has found his footing, no doubt to a degree,

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Speaker 1: and got his hands on some footballs and that's been

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Speaker 1: really cool to see. Have you done any mentoring of

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Speaker 1: him and how have you guys conversations been in the

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Speaker 4: Now, honestly not too much because I mean, again, I've

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Speaker 4: then of course excuse me after surgery not really being

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Speaker 3: So I mean, for me, it's just more so just

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Speaker 4: I know when I first got back, I was telling, hey, bro,

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Speaker 3: Just supporting him in that row.

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Speaker 4: I don't ever want to be where oh I'm out

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Speaker 4: it's nothing but but love. You love to see good

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Speaker 4: So that's really been the biggest thing, just making sure

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Speaker 4: how do what makes you do certain things, But really

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Speaker 1: And I thought he was gonna get that book when

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Speaker 1: he went up and won. Oh if that's a receiver

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Speaker 1: getting grabbed by dB. Yeah, but you ain't gonna call

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Speaker 3: I said, boys, a life of life, of life of

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Speaker 3: a dB, life.

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Speaker 2: Of a dB.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of life of a dB, talk about our heirs,

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Speaker 1: because he's had impact everywhere he goes. The dB is

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Speaker 1: getting getting the football every he was in. He was

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Speaker 1: guys lead the league and interceptions and turnovers? What is

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Speaker 1: What is it about him and what he's coaching that

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Speaker 1: that makes it, I mean so special.

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Speaker 4: The biggest thing is you get what you emphasize, and

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Speaker 4: I know he's he emphasizes it almost too much to

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Speaker 4: a point where we in the dB room debating on

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Speaker 4: certain plays and if we could have got to pick

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Speaker 4: and just different things like that. Anytime you drop or

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Speaker 4: I think for us it's just, yeah, we we just

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Speaker 4: breeds and force confidence into yourself to where it's like,

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Speaker 4: yeah you can you made a good play on the ball,

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Speaker 4: but how can you get an interception?

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Speaker 3: How can you pick it?

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Speaker 4: And for for us as DBS, of course it's always

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Speaker 4: just get the ball on the ground, but for him

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Speaker 4: also to just his i Q as well, I would

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Speaker 4: say is it talked about enough? Of course people don't

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Speaker 1: How do you feel Ben Johnson has done this season?

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Speaker 1: relationship with him.

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Speaker 3: He's honest.

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Speaker 4: It's funny because I mean even when he was coming

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Speaker 4: into the draft, it was just always talked about the

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Speaker 4: nails and everything that didn't matter and him being a

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Speaker 4: diva and prima danasite.

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Speaker 3: Caleb is honestly the opposite of that. Like he's one

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Speaker 3: of the guys.

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Speaker 4: I mean he comes in, I mean, he does his work,

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Speaker 4: He's passionate about what he does, he takes part in

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Speaker 4: what he does, and I mean at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, you see him learning, you see him growing

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Speaker 4: like any other rookie, like any other player that takes

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Speaker 4: pride in what the.

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Speaker 3: Hell that they're doing, and being around them more.

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Speaker 4: Just seeing him in the building more, spending more time,

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Speaker 4: and they're really just honestly just keep an eye out

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Speaker 4: on him and kind of just watching how he goes

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Speaker 4: about his business, just seeing how he's studying more, just

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Speaker 4: seeing how he's in the training room more, just seeing

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Speaker 4: how he's building relationships around the building more. It's just

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Speaker 4: something that you love to see. And he just he

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Speaker 4: doesn't switch up. I mean, he's he is who he

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Speaker 4: is throughout the week. I mean he'll be Superman on

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Speaker 4: Sunday and then be a normal guy. On on Monday,

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Speaker 4: And I think you just love to see things like that.

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Speaker 4: You should love to see his humility and his family's great.

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Speaker 3: His mom was great.

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Speaker 4: They always show love, so definitely know that he comes

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Speaker 4: from from a good, solid foundation.

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Speaker 3: Just love to see where he's going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he showed up big time in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter in that game. I made some critical fourth

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Speaker 1: and eight. That fourth and eight throw crazy. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how y'all conversation with Monday or you know, we

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Speaker 1: always had tell the truth Mondays, but boy, that throw. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of respect for it. Critical moment

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Speaker 1: it found it. It didn't even look open room made

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Speaker 1: a great catch. It just was an incredible play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And it's crazy because it's like when you watch it,

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Speaker 4: for me at least watching all over the internet, it's

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Speaker 4: almost just like he always does it. It's almost like

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Speaker 4: you don't it doesn't feel like surreal. Like in the moment,

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Speaker 4: of course, because it was fourth and fourth down, you

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Speaker 4: think about it's like, no, that's a great pickup. But

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Speaker 4: it's like when you really watch it, it's like he

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Speaker 4: does stuff that all the time, like in practice. So

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Speaker 4: it's almost crazy to see. But he's he's a different

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Speaker 4: he's a different time. I think you kind of just

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Speaker 4: change and move your expectations with certain casts, and he's

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Speaker 4: one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: It was like, that's just him being him. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: don't worry about that, put too much into it.

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Speaker 4: He's just he's just that type of guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that kind of guy. And it's a different

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Speaker 1: kind of clutch. And you know, you, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you realize and understand it in a moment, but that

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Speaker 1: was the instant classic game.

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Speaker 2: That was an instant classic.

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Speaker 1: I mean a historic game between two historic franchises in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and he made the play of the game

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Speaker 1: when y'all.

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Speaker 2: Had to have it.

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Speaker 1: It's just so extraordinary what he's been able to do

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Speaker 1: and how you guys have been able to live up

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Speaker 1: to the expectations and defy the expectations week in and

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Speaker 1: week out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, for him especially, I think it's just

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Speaker 4: a step in the stepping stone in the right direction

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Speaker 4: of being the greatest quarterback of all time. I know

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Speaker 4: that's one of his greatest goals. He who wants to accomplish.

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Speaker 4: And I know, for for a teammate supporter of that,

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Speaker 4: you have to help him win games, because quarterbacks are

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Speaker 4: measured by how they win games and how many games

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Speaker 4: they win and winning them in the big moments, So

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Speaker 4: me being a supporter of that, being on the defense,

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Speaker 4: it's definitely something I take pride in and helping him

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Speaker 4: get to that level of winning these big time games

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Speaker 4: and finishing off these games. And they're really just trying

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Speaker 4: to just help him the best way we can because

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Speaker 4: we know the quarterback really drives it all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it, no question about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, brother. If you got any questions

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Speaker 1: for me, feel free. But I notice your off days

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. You gotta take care of your body, and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time that you gave me today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna hit you line. I'm gonna need some

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Speaker 3: notes heading into this weekend, no question, no question. Let's

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Speaker 3: talk about