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Speaker 1: uh sixteen, when the son of a klansman was elected president,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats begged black people, UM put us back in power.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand eighteen, they got the House of Representatives. UM.

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Speaker 1: They didn't push for any substantive legislation that would benefit

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Speaker 1: our people. They said, but if you give us the

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Speaker 1: House and the Senate will be able to do something

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Speaker 1: for you. So two years later, in two thousand and twenty,

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Speaker 1: black people went to work. They flipped Georgia from red

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Speaker 1: to blue. They flipped Pennsylvania from red to blue, they

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Speaker 1: flipped miss Michigan from red to blue, they flipped Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: from red to blue. And they gave them the House,

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Speaker 1: the Senate, and the presidency. And while they've been there

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Speaker 1: for the last two years. UH they decided that Asian

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Speaker 1: Americans and Pacific Islanders needed something. LGBTQ community needed something.

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Speaker 1: UM Docta needed something, immigrants needed something. Punched back and

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Speaker 1: two legged people UM with an extra kickstand needed something.

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Speaker 1: Everybody needed something except for the black people that put

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Speaker 1: them in office. And they told us, well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: if you give us more people in office in two

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Speaker 1: thousand twenty two will get to you. And so I

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Speaker 1: think black people are really in the same place we

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Speaker 1: were in two thousand twenty, the same place we were

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eighteen, in the same place we

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Speaker 1: were in two thousand sixteen. Nina's turned in the building

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Speaker 1: a hell raising humanitarian has now joined us as well.

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Speaker 1: UH S and t send me a invite to speak.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to send you an invite and it is

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Speaker 1: not picking up, so please send me a request. And

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Speaker 1: what we're doing now is going through UH. Each speaker

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Speaker 1: is giving their point of view, a couple of minute

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Speaker 1: intro on just their point of view, on where they

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Speaker 1: are from, their political party or ideology, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna open it up for discussion. So we just did

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Speaker 1: Bishop Talbot Swan and then next and UH and and next,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to go straight to real Tim Black again.

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Speaker 1: Everyone please give a quick you know where we are,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna get in discussion again. Tim Black,

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Speaker 1: the host of Tim Black TV, describes himself as black first, progressive, independent, troublemaking, humanitarian,

468
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Speaker 1: waking up everyday, choose and violence. Real Tim, give us

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Speaker 1: a from a prospective Black man point of view, what

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Speaker 1: is the state of the state after the mid terms

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Speaker 1: this week? Well, first of all, thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for having me Teslin in the room. And I'm very,

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Speaker 1: very proud to be here tonight. Where we are. Wow,

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Speaker 1: we were where we were before this thing happened, and

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Speaker 1: that is on the out side looking in, folks, um

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Speaker 1: a little bit about myself. I'm a progressive, I'm an independent.

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Speaker 1: I come from a family a working class slash hurting

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Speaker 1: class is my what the Mud would say when reset race,

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00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: what I see what I've done as a as a commentator.

480
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: I started out in twenty thirteen just covering issues that

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Speaker 1: affected the black community and many people in my my community.

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Speaker 1: Many people that I met online said, Tim, you gotta

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Speaker 1: be focused on politics as well. I always had a

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Speaker 1: disdain for politics because I felt politics has a disdain

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Speaker 1: for us. I was raised to always look at them

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Speaker 1: with a side eye, any politician. But around sixteen, some

487
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: of my younger viewers they said to him, black is

488
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Speaker 1: this guy running. He's old, he's Jewish, he's white, but

489
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: he knows you're paying. But you need to check him out.

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Speaker 1: You're not like everybody else. He was saying the same

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Speaker 1: thing for the last thirty years, and he's never changed.

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Speaker 1: I looked into him, I said, Wow, Bernie Sanders is interesting,

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Speaker 1: and that's what got me looking at the politics. But

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Speaker 1: as I went down that road, I discovered that I

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Speaker 1: became affiliated with progressive because I believe in policies such

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Speaker 1: as at a kid for all, which is just my

497
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: way of thinking, we need healthcare coming from a family

498
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Speaker 1: some of my folks in my family, that early I

499
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Speaker 1: felt diseases or conditions that were preventable or treatable. That's

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Speaker 1: so much um and as we as we went on,

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Speaker 1: also Masson in the massive conceerration, legalized in marijuana and

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Speaker 1: in the Wars. But even that close relationship with progressives

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Speaker 1: for me didn't last too long, because by two thousand

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Speaker 1: I started to feel disgruntled that the progressives that I

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Speaker 1: was aligning myself with. Though I believe in those policies,

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Speaker 1: I realized that black people needed more than just policies

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Speaker 1: that were generalized. As I discovered the black people home

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Speaker 1: one percent of the wealth, though with thirteen percent of

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Speaker 1: the population, one percent of the land, the only one

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Speaker 1: to two percent of skilled workers, skilled jobs such as

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Speaker 1: engineering and scientific jobs, one percent of federal uh housing cities.

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Speaker 1: We got less than the g I B two percent

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Speaker 1: of the New Deal and Raw Deal. So at this

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Speaker 1: point on what you consider, I'm black first because I

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Speaker 1: know that what they're handing out they get enough for us.

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Speaker 1: We have to ask more. So as I look at

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Speaker 1: the mid terms, it doesn't matter who got elected. If

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Speaker 1: they go to office and they don't do what we

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Speaker 1: need done, that's what my focus lies. So it's not

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Speaker 1: about politicians and party, It's about people. That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: here to support. And and thank you much on to

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Speaker 1: get for having me. Thank you so much, Rich and

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Speaker 1: black in and just for for clarity, just to reset again,

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Speaker 1: all of the speakers that I invited are certainly at

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Speaker 1: least what they've always presented to me, you know, black first,

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Speaker 1: and that was really important, you know, as we have

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Speaker 1: this conversation. But the reason why I'm asking how people

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Speaker 1: to give, you know, their ideology of their party is

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Speaker 1: because everybody that I invited, you know, actually works in

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Speaker 1: this space. What I mean work. That means they're either

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Speaker 1: an organizer or they've been they've worked on the campaign,

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Speaker 1: or they've been a abundant for years, you know, following

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Speaker 1: the data. And uh, you know, most of us, you know,

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Speaker 1: have worked with folks who you know, have been in

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Speaker 1: with a particular party and so they have inside knowledge,

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Speaker 1: you know, on things. And so that is why I'm

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Speaker 1: asking people, you know what their ideology is or their party,

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Speaker 1: because I do want you to hear, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: from various you know, Democrats, Republicans, Progressives, and conservatives. And

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Speaker 1: I know, you know again, a lot of folks like

541
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Speaker 1: to come in spaces and just only talk to people

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Speaker 1: that agree with them, and I just have always believed

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Speaker 1: we don't get anywhere that way. So next up is

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Speaker 1: to terrain Walker, who again coming from the A t L.

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Speaker 1: That conversation is really important. You know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have opinions on Atlanta but don't live in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and so I thought it was very you know, important

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Speaker 1: that we have somebody actually in Atlanta. We actually have

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Speaker 1: two here, uh and I believe Marcus is also joining this,

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Speaker 1: so will be three here. But Mr Walker is also

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Speaker 1: the founder and e i C. Of Content Media Group,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure many of you know him by a

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Speaker 1: lot of spaces that he has held and I've just

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Speaker 1: been very um I've enjoyed all of these spaces that

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Speaker 1: he has focused on in regards to black men, um

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Speaker 1: and where black men are in particularly what is happening

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00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: happening you know in uh, you know what we see

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Speaker 1: going on in Georgia. So tell us, Mr Walker, where

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Speaker 1: are we? What is your point of view? And you

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Speaker 1: can either give a summary on the nation as a

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Speaker 1: whole or Georgia. Um So for so the speakers, I know,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of you may refer to your

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Speaker 1: state and that's fine too, um or from a national standpoint,

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Speaker 1: But but tell us, tell us what's good. First of all,

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Speaker 1: thank you for inviting me to be part of this

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Speaker 1: steam company. You've got some really heavy hitters here, so

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for that. And just to go

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Speaker 1: back here earlier introduction, my first name is pronounced torn

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Speaker 1: like foreigns. Just so everybody knows and it looks like Lorraine,

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Speaker 1: but it's torn Um. Apologies No, all good? So yeah,

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Speaker 1: hello everybody. My name is Torn Walker. I'm the founder

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of Context Media Group and I consider

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Speaker 1: myself an independent, but a black independent. I used to

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Speaker 1: be a hardcore Democrat because that was just the way

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Speaker 1: my family voted, and that was the people who that

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Speaker 1: we were expected to vote for as black people. But

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Speaker 1: that changed for me when I moved into a media space.

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Speaker 1: My background is a journalism. My background is a media

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Speaker 1: and I have about seventy by lines across um national, local,

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Speaker 1: and international outlets. Wrote for the Huffets to Post about

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Speaker 1: a year and a half, and I wrote for them

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Speaker 1: around the time that the protest movement began to ramp

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Speaker 1: up around Traylon Martin and Mike Brown and all the

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Speaker 1: thousands of hundreds of other names that we've come to

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Speaker 1: note that became hashtags unfortunately. And through that work, I

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Speaker 1: got close to a lot of political organizers. I got

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Speaker 1: close to a lot of activists, and I got close

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Speaker 1: to a lot of political candidates, including Mr Sanders. I

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Speaker 1: was objective at first because I had to, because that

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Speaker 1: was my job. But I began to pay attention to

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Speaker 1: some of the inner works of how politics works. And

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Speaker 1: from being that close to a lot of those places,

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Speaker 1: I began to realize that some patterns start to take

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Speaker 1: place regardless of who is running, whether it's on the

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Speaker 1: left or right or in the middle. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to black voters, when it comes to black agenda and

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Speaker 1: when it comes to black concerns, there's always gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of lip service, and there's always gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of referencing back to the nineteen sixties and

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Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, but very little from any candidate when

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Speaker 1: it comes to black issues, talks about things that are

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Speaker 1: on the ground right now, and when you were talking

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Speaker 1: about political parties, the Democrats, in my opinion, have really

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Speaker 1: fallen down with living up to their reputation as being

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Speaker 1: the people that black people should listen to. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna get too deep in the next cause i know

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Speaker 1: we've got a limited amount of time where we have

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Speaker 1: we have to put to the long but I'll bring

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Speaker 1: it up to the date. As far as like Georgia,

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Speaker 1: I'm in Atlanta. Um, I've been in Atlanta, and I've

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Speaker 1: been connected to the politics in Georgia for a while,

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Speaker 1: but just to give you a summary of what happened

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. What happened over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days was not so much a referendum

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Speaker 1: on Stacy Abrams, and it wasn't even so much referendum

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Speaker 1: on Georgia. What that was was a referendum and reckoning

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Speaker 1: of the benign neglect that a lot of black issues

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Speaker 1: have been have been given in this national elections and

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Speaker 1: in Georgia Atlanta as everybody knows as the black mecha.

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Speaker 1: But Stacy her campaign, I want to I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say Stacy her campaign did not do a really

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Speaker 1: good job with connecting with black voters in a black city.

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Speaker 1: The average people in Georgia, in Atlanta who are black

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Speaker 1: did not know who she was. And what I mean

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Speaker 1: by that was they knew her by face, they knew

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Speaker 1: her name, but there's very few people in the city

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Speaker 1: who could tell you Stacy stands for this. Stacey ask

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Speaker 1: for that because she did not do the work of

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Speaker 1: going out and going out to those communities and meeting them.

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Speaker 1: I think her Colmes people felt because she was a

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Speaker 1: black woman and because she had name recognition, that was

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00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: going to be enough, and yesterday show that that's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be enough. The same thing for Warnock and Walker. Um,

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Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination, Raphael Warnock is a

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Speaker 1: better qualified candidate than Hershaw Walker. But again, if you

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Speaker 1: do not do the groundwork in this city, if you

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Speaker 1: don't go meet people where they are, that is not

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Speaker 1: gonna get you an election. That's not gonna get you elected,

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Speaker 1: as we're seeing, which is why we're going into a

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Speaker 1: runoff now. And traditionally in Georgia, runoffs tend the favorite

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Speaker 1: conservative candidates because usually in Georgia, people vote at one time.

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Speaker 1: At least black voters do. They vote on that day.

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Speaker 1: They may vote early, but it's gonna be hell trying

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Speaker 1: to get them to come back out in December when

645
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Speaker 1: it's cold, to go out here and vote again. So

646
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: it's not looking good. So I'm gonna tell everything else

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Speaker 1: I have to say out by saying that, yeah, I'm

648
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: in Georgia, I'm in Atlanta, and I'm very concerned with things.

649
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: But I'm a black independent, and I think you're gonna

650
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: see a lot more people who are black and independent

651
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Speaker 1: going forward. And I land there, thank you so much,

652
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get back to that, because I definitely,

653
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of us want to

654
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: get into the Georgia conversation because you know, the data

655
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: shows that black people did vote with her, but yes,

656
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: and at a very long conversation, and they would kill Mike,

657
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: giving me a lot of insight. You know, black people

658
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: did both for her, but they agreed with with you

659
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Speaker 1: with whether if they really knew her or not. And

660
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Speaker 1: so because I was asking the questions on how she

661
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Speaker 1: did well the first time, what was the difference between

662
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Speaker 1: the first time and the last time. Uh, and so

663
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that. But Stacy lost the white voters.

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Speaker 1: So even if all the all the black people voted

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Speaker 1: for in Atlanta, she said would have got she said,

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Speaker 1: would have got lost, she said with a lost. So

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Speaker 1: and so I think there's some critique no there as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I'm we're definitely gonna get into that to him

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Speaker 1: when we look back around next up, because again, and

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Speaker 1: we may go over the two hours and let me

671
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: say this to the speakers, you know, if I can

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: definitely go longer. I'm recording it. My producers in here,

673
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Speaker 1: and he's just he said, he's just recording however long

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Speaker 1: I go. But if Black Effect, if you need to leave,

675
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: I try to be respectful of people's time. Everybody don't

676
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: like you know. I'm looking at the comments somebody saying

677
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Speaker 1: we gotta go longer where some people, you know, I

678
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: know y'all said in these spaces for ten or twelve

679
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Speaker 1: and fourteen, sixty and hours. And sometimes I'll be right

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Speaker 1: with y'all, like the other day to three and four

681
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: in the morning, but I do. This is actually a

682
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: recording with Black Faith Podcast, and they don't like sit that.

683
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: Everybody don't sit on these spaces like we do for

684
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Speaker 1: fifteen hours. So um, if my guests need to leave,

685
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: certainly tap out, you know, send me an inbox or

686
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: Texas and hayesis, I gotta go at this time so

687
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: that you know I can give you a proper exit.

688
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: And then also Black Effect, if you can stay help

689
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: a long you can stay great, but when you need

690
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: to tap out past the nine thirty, um, you know,

691
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: please do uh mix up? Leslie Whims again coming from

692
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: the great State of Florida as a Florida organizer, a Democrat,

693
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Speaker 1: a founder of the Democratic Um. Let me say it

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Speaker 1: again because I gonna make sure I say it right,

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Speaker 1: the founder of the Democratic African American Women Group, and

696
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: so Leslie tell where we are. And I know you

697
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Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about Florida, uh, to talk about

698
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: how terrible ideas. So give us say the state on

699
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Speaker 1: where we are on Democrats, particularly in Florida and how

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Speaker 1: they got select hay Teslin, thank you very much for

701
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: having me a part of this illustrious panel. I see

702
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: some great people on here, people that I've worked with

703
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: in the past. Um, and yes, I am from Florida,

704
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: and everybody knows at this point that Florida is crazy. UM.

705
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: I am a Democrat. I'm a proud Democrat, but I'm

706
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Speaker 1: an even prouder black woman. And for me, black comes first.

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00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: I think you know that about me. Um. Nina Turner,

708
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: you're on here. You know that about me. Bishop Talbert

709
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Speaker 1: Swan you as well. UM. I must say that I'm

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Speaker 1: a Democrat, not because of my family, not because of

711
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: any political institutional organization. I'm a Democrat because of my beliefs.

712
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that I go along to get along.

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00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: That does not mean that I told line because I

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00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: do not. I call out my party and when especially

715
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: when it comes to the black vote, Black people, Democrats

716
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: do not do enough for us. They do take our

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00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: votes for granted. I'm always going to be a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: but I'm also gonna hold Democrats accountable. Um. Florida, as

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Speaker 1: you know, just went very, very red. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of reasons for that. UM. Turnout is one. UM, we

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Speaker 1: all know that because our vote gets taken for granted.

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Speaker 1: Nothing much gets put into our communities, not into our media,

723
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Speaker 1: not into getting out the vote, none of that. We're

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Speaker 1: just expected to tow that line. UM. In we had

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Speaker 1: six of people come out to vote this time, we

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00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: only have fift People just don't care anymore. UM. We

727
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: can't be that way though. We have to care because

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Speaker 1: we're a part of a two party system, and if

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Speaker 1: we're gonna make any changes, if we're gonna get any policy,

730
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: we have to work within the system. And working within

731
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Speaker 1: the system doesn't mean just going along. It means getting

732
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Speaker 1: out there, making changes, making your voice heard, and having

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Speaker 1: a plan. So I'm looking forward to working with other

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Speaker 1: people in Florida to bring about change for black voters.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna land my plane there because I know

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Speaker 1: you have a lot of speakers, but definitely I plan

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Speaker 1: on making changes for black people. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Let's si next, my sister, Sonny Johnson conservating the building,

739
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Speaker 1: the biggest boss in the building. Sonny, tell us, where

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Speaker 1: are we with black conservatives after this medtime? Because one

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Speaker 1: of the things that I will admit this, you know,

742
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Speaker 1: I was one of the ones that were saying, oh,

743
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Speaker 1: it's gonna ready be slat of House records. You know,

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Speaker 1: I said that at the beginning of the year that Democrats,

745
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Speaker 1: the Democrats were going to get rolled muddy in the

746
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Speaker 1: ground and it would absolutely be a slat in med terms,

747
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Speaker 1: in the mid terms, and it just it wasn't. It

748
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: wasn't a slaughter. But also Democrats are it's interested in

749
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Speaker 1: how they're celebrating. And number one, more than likely the

750
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: Republicans will take over the House. Uh. And we still

751
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen with the Senate. But one

752
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: thing we do know about the Senate is Joe Manson

753
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: run the Senate. So it don't matter if the if

754
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: the Democrats are in charge of the Senator, not Joe

755
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: Manchin is in charge, which means secondly, a Republican run

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Speaker 1: the Senate. So as far as I'm concerned if a

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00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: Republican wins the House, the Republicans controlled the Senate and

758
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: the House, because Joe Mansion is absolutely a Republican. So

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Speaker 1: but but I will say it's interesting and I get it.

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Speaker 1: I know, you know, the Democrats have to say, you

761
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: know that there was history made in the first time

762
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: ever president did not you know, lose drastically. But we

763
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: can sit back and say, oh, you know, such and

764
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: such had a good lay up and good three pointer.

765
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: And but at the end of the day, who wins

766
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: the game? And right now the game is still out there.

767
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: We do not know who controls the House and the Senate.

768
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Speaker 1: But you know, Democrats do what they always do is

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Speaker 1: celeb rate early in pop bottles. But we still we're

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00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: still waiting on the results. So with that saying, sunny,

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00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: what are conservatives? Uh? What? What is what's going on

772
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: in the conservative conversation about the med terms? If you

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Speaker 1: want to look at it from an overall political level,

774
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: they're going into a civil war right now. Um, the

775
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: establishment and the Maga are going to fight. But it's

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00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a very very fast, quick fight because the

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00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: MAGA people like to go to rallies and like to

778
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: be on Twitter and ship, but they don't organize. They

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00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: don't understand how the committees work, they don't understand how

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Speaker 1: leadership is chosen. They don't activate and go and be

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00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: in part of the process. Um. So they have no

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00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: power within the actual Republican establishment structure. And those people

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00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: that do will that power within that structure. They are

784
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: um coming to take their power back. And you can

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00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: see that very obvious um with the Republican hits that

786
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: are coming in on Trump right now. It's not about Trump,

787
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: It's not about this scantists. It is about Republican leadership

788
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: telling its base to sit down and shut the funk up,

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Speaker 1: and they are going through the midst of that civil

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Speaker 1: war within the Republican Party. I'm not a Republican. I

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Speaker 1: I I consider myself a Black Conservative. I'll say, on

792
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Speaker 1: the line of from Frederick Douglas the book or T. Washington,

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Speaker 1: Carter Wilson to Malcolm met that's kind of the lineage

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00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: of conservative conservatism that I follow. Um. And as far

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Speaker 1: as black conservative space, we're about to into a war too, um.

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why I'm very very

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into like discussing the Republican versus.

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Speaker 1: Then no, this is about to be black conservatives fighting

799
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Speaker 1: Republicans and especially black faces in a Republican party that

800
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Speaker 1: um are going to start pushing it it's okay to

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Speaker 1: be white. This this whole like um anti white racism,

802
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: bigotry ship that they're about to do, that's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be where all black conservative attention has to

804
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: be focused because until that ship is killed, until it

805
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: is driven out, and it is shameful for them to

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00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: even mother those fucking words, there is nothing a black

807
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: conservative can offer Black America from the Republican Party. So

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Speaker 1: the first thing that I'm looking at in all of

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Speaker 1: this is that it's going to be two simultaneous civil

810
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Speaker 1: wars on the right, one between the Republican leadership and

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Speaker 1: the Republican base and another between the black face Republicans

812
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Speaker 1: and black conservatives. And it's the line is simply going

813
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: to be drawn on whether or not the next nominee

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Speaker 1: for Republican president it is going to have a black agenda,

815
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Speaker 1: because if they do not have a black agenda, then

816
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the black conservatives that have been standing

817
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: standing in even though we're witnessing is complete of apathy

818
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: towards our community. Is not even fucking apathy. It's it's

819
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: worse than that, UM, but just standing by and seeing it.

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Speaker 1: No outreach, no attempt, no adjustments, may, no lessons learned, no,

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Speaker 1: no fucking anything. And if they cannot be pushed into

822
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: actually acknowledging the distance that is between them and black

823
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: community and actually offer an agenda that wait, that bridges

824
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: that gap, it's still gonna be another cycle of going

825
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: to Democrats and just the black faces that say it's

826
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Speaker 1: okay to be white that are a part of the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party. And simply, that's as simply as I can

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Speaker 1: put it without taking too much time. Speakers, UH, if

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Speaker 1: you have heard something that another speaker has said in

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00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: their introduction, please raise your hands so I can come

831
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Speaker 1: to you right after I go through these next uh

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Speaker 1: these two or three introductions that I have left. Just

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00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: bear with me. But if you if somebody said something

834
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: that you want to speak directly to or you have

835
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: a question UM with my speakers, please raise your hand

836
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Speaker 1: and I'll come right to you as soon as we

837
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Speaker 1: open up the discussion. UM. Next in the lineup, and

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00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: again it's Danny, Jeff Nikki and then Senator Senator Turner

839
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Speaker 1: just going in the in the order of having to

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00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: join the room. Um so just bear women, just have

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00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: four quick introductions, next to give a quick state of

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00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: the state on on where they are, and then after

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna get into it for the discussion. Uh. Danny,

844
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: who made sure I wanted he wanted me to know

845
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Speaker 1: he's from making Georgia, not the a t L. So

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Speaker 1: I think I just said Atlanta, I was. I just

847
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: meant Georgia. But again, this is why me and Danny

848
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: go back and forth all the time. He's always, you know,

849
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: trying to me forgetting that I'm the big sister and

850
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: he's a little sister. But anyway, Danny from making Georgia,

851
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: what is the state of the state from a progressive

852
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: standpoint in making Georgia? Uh? And as a black man,

853
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: what's good, dannil man? What's going on? Ten? And I'm

854
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: gonna correctly once again, you called me a little sister

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00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: and you just mix gendered me. So I'm a little brother.

856
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Speaker 1: So uh so we're keep going. But man, hey, but

857
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate you hosting this. Yes, I am the you

858
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: are the little brother, and I'm a big sister by back.

859
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: It's it's all good, baby, I know what you meant.

860
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: But I appreciate you hosting in space, and I appreciate

861
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: you allowing me to participate in this conversation. But as

862
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: you stated, my name is Danny Glover. I'm from Making, Georgia.

863
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm a son of Making Georgia, and I'm a son

864
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: of all things politics outside of Atlanta. I've worked all

865
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Speaker 1: over this country, but I've never worked the race in Atlanta,

866
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: Georgia because I've always felt like the places outside of

867
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: the two eighty five corridor, you know, we're overlooked. Um,

868
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: So I'm probably be on this call. Um. I am

869
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: a democ crack and um, and I'm a Democrat because

870
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: that's where my people vote. I'm a Democrat because that's

871
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: where I've spent my time in this space. As a

872
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: son of Making Georgia, I was elected or voted as

873
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: the youngest chairman of my county party at twenty four,

874
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: so I had a chance to experience democratic politics, you know,

875
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: from a position of leadership. I had a chance to

876
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: see the roadblocks and how as a young black man

877
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, how you know the pushback I got

878
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: not only from black folks but also from white folks

879
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: in the party. So you know, I met folks across

880
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: the state, had a chance to build and talk about

881
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, those other setbacks and um short falls that

882
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: folks are experience. And so I know Georgia politics, I

883
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: know these spaces, and I know politics out side of Atlanta.

884
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: But when it comes down to this space we're in

885
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: now and where we are as a country and where

886
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: we are as a Black race, the first thing I'll

887
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: talk about is Black people are at a inflection point.

888
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: Like one the conspiracy theories, the rhetoric, the narratives about

889
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: black men not voting for black candidates and supporting black

890
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: women candidates, that ship is there at this point. You know,

891
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: we've seen black men turn out and support black candidates

892
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: not only in Georgia but in Wisconsin, but in Florida

893
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: at historic numbers. So we can put that out. So

894
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: now it's time not only not for us, but now

895
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: it's time for the folks who are pushing those negative

896
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: narratives against black men and also black women to figure

897
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: out something else. So as a black community, weather inflection

898
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: from we have to figure out where we are where

899
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: we stand. I support black conservatives, I support you know,

900
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: black independence because I feel like we need people all

901
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: across the board. We need you know, the people in

902
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: Colquick County, Georgia are not going to agree with the

903
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: people in Alega County of Pennsylvania. But that's the beauty

904
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: of our nation. That's the beauty of this democracy we

905
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: live in. It's we're not supposed to agree, but we

906
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: need folks in those spaces. Um So, But before we

907
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: get into that, I'm also gonna go to my second point.

908
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Um, I don't like to mention that name much,

909
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: but I think now it's the time to talk about

910
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: that motherfucker is on the ropes. At this point. All

911
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: of his folks, all of his election deniers lost, got

912
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: the ask his kick, not only the ones running for governors,

913
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: but also the ones running for Secretary of States. They lost.

914
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: They that was a complete repudiation of Donald Trump and

915
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: that wing of the party. What you're gonna see moving

916
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: forward is those old school GOP leads, those Mitt Romney types,

917
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: those Mike Huckabee's types whose daughter just got elected in Arkansas.

918
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna see those folks started throwing weight and pushing

919
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: him out of the party. So really interesting seeing where

920
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: that goes. And then the last piece and most importantly,

921
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, where are we standing in Georgia with Raphael

922
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: Warnot and the spirit of transparency. I did work for

923
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: the campaign, um when it or not the campaign, but

924
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: for his office. I was his first um Central Georgia,

925
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: higher um you know in Georgia. And I was fired

926
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: within two weeks. Um. I was fired because of what

927
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: I was asking. I was fired because the expectations I

928
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: had in the office when I quit my job as

929
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: senior advisor to the mayor of the and for a

930
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: black man, the second black man election, and never to

931
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: come back to Georgia to work for the first black

932
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: senator of our state. You know, took a thirty thousand

933
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: dollar paker to comeback, and the camp and the office

934
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: to be in complete shambles, for no one to know

935
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Speaker 1: what we were doing. To be told by the highest

936
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: people in this office that hey, we find this. We're

937
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: building the capital, the plane and flying at the same time.

938
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: What the hell do you mean we're building in the

939
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: flying at the same time. Do you not know the

940
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: Georgia Republican Party and the entire Republican establishment are coming

941
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: directly at you within the next you know, six d

942
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: eight months. We don't have time to build and fly.

943
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: He should have been ready on day one. And then

944
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: the second piece was, you know, uh, the folks associated

945
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: with the campaign, they weren't Georgia. They were folks from

946
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Speaker 1: d C. They were folks from outside of the true

947
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: Georgia establishment. So they didn't know how to communicate with voters.

948
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: So of course they had to get my black ass

949
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: out of there. And you know, so um, moving forward, man,

950
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: I think we're not probably gonna win. Um. I think

951
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: the race laws and about you know, five or six counties,

952
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: and I look forward to talking about those counties and

953
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: those percentages that's needed in order to win. But just

954
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: remember seventy thirty. If he runs up the numbers in

955
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: Democratic strong colds, he will win. So that's to be determined. Okay,

956
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: that's great. As soon as I get through these last

957
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: three introductions a couple of minutes, thank you mahage for

958
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: joining uhmage to raise here also uh, And what we're

959
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: doing is we're just giving a quick overview two to

960
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: three minutes on where things stand from your viewpoint. Um.

961
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna open up the discussion, and I

962
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: can tell you now, I want the first discussion to

963
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: be between Touring and David. I'm the David Touring and Danny,

964
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: because Touring is saying that Stacy did not, you know, uh,

965
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: really connect with black voters, and Danny is saying no,

966
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, black voters came out of droves. So I

967
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: would love to hear the exchange you know from YouTube

968
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: brothers immediately, you know, when we get through these next things.

969
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: But but you're on it and shout out to me

970
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: of being your big sister because when the campaign was

971
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: trying to get your black ass out, you called me

972
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: and I helped, you know, calm you down through that situation.

973
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just like to get my six since

974
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: you forgot to mention that. But um, anyway, um, going

975
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: on to the next one, you'll see where I go

976
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: back and forth with Danny and also, guys, I hope

977
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: people in the room are you're enjoying the people that

978
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: I brought that I brought up. I wanted you to, guys,

979
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: to hear from people that have actually worked in the

980
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: trenches because it is a different conversation when you're working

981
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Um, it's great to have opinions that.

982
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't minimize anybody's opinion, but I really wanted to

983
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: bring some folks up that got some receipts, like on

984
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: what is really happening? If y'all want to know about

985
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: receipts in the conservative movement, you better damn well following

986
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: Sonic because she gonna tell you who doing what and

987
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: who doing this that. And she's speaking from a place

988
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: of you know, working in the space for over fifteen

989
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: years behind the scenes. That really makes a difference. Next up,

990
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: I want to bring up the humanitarian that is so

991
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: loved and respected and uh loved but loved in the

992
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: progressive movement. She goes by the name of Senator Nina Turner,

993
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: and we have a long, long history. We have been

994
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: through the fire fire and we were at some point

995
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: we will break all of that town. Because when I

996
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: say through the fire, I'm talking about through the fire fire. Uh.

997
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: I had worked with Nina Turner before she was on

998
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: the Bernie Sanders campaign. There was like before the Bernie

999
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: Sanders campaign, but leave it or not, uh, And I

1000
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: was her director come and a lot of people didn't

1001
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: know that we were not friends. We were actually in

1002
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: in in in well because and I will deal with

1003
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: that another day. People said, oh, well, you know they

1004
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: just friends, and we actually worked together prior to the

1005
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders campaign. Uh, and connected immediately. And guess how

1006
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: we connected. Shout out to Leslie in the bill. Unlesslie

1007
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: had a training in Florida. And when Leslie invited me

1008
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: to the training, I always tell people, you sure you

1009
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: want me to come to the training, because I'm gonna say,

1010
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know, I'm gonna fend somebody. Unless he said,

1011
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: that's okay, I want you to come offend somebody. And

1012
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: so let's let's introduce me as Olivia Pope. That was

1013
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: what they called me in Florida. And and all the

1014
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: trainers got up talking about how well the Democrats did

1015
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: and how well they did. And I got up and said,

1016
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: everybody that got up and said they did well, it

1017
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: is lying because they all got beat like a drum.

1018
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: So forget everything everybody said, and listen to what I say.

1019
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I said that in front of all the trainers, and

1020
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: immediately that the need to turn to feel in love

1021
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: chained up seeing hing like that and saying that, I

1022
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: guess in front of on the Democrats, so introducing the

1023
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: health raising humanitarian the host of unbossed on the Young

1024
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: Turch Network. Senator turned to where are we uh in

1025
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: the progressive movement and what is the state of the state.

1026
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, so you just stole my my opening because

1027
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell that story. But day, Danny, you

1028
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: ain't the only one that get in hell. I get

1029
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: it to people have no idea a big row and

1030
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: I have been through a lot. I mean some of that.

1031
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 1: If anybody remembers the movie A Racer was very old,

1032
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: but there was a scene in there where guy said,

1033
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: who is that person? And the other guy said, if

1034
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: I tell you I got to kill you, you know,

1035
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: I might just might have to kill you. That's that's it.

1036
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: We figure o. We have been through the fire, the rain,

1037
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: that's the storm. We have walked through hell with gasoline

1038
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: clothing on. It is so much and maybe one day

1039
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: the whole story will be told, a part of the

1040
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: story will be told. But I'm honored to to be

1041
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: here and I'm so glad to figure out brought all

1042
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: of us together from different strata within this political system.

1043
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: But we might not necessarily do politics, but politics does

1044
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: us and I am a disgruntled Democrat. Not sure how

1045
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: much longer I will be a disgruntled a Democrat because

1046
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the BS, I really am. And I'm

1047
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: tired of Black people being complicit in our own demand.

1048
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: That comes a point, but we have to recognize and

1049
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: figure out. And I talked about this all the time here.

1050
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: We didn't even the Mistress. No'm an't see the mistress.

1051
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: At least you get some pearls and some diamonds and

1052
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: some ear rings and set up lavishly. You know, we decide,

1053
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 1: chick what we below the damn mistress. And I'm sick

1054
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: of it, you know, I really am. But we got

1055
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: to call out these two major parties. Black people really

1056
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: don't have a party. And I do agree with something

1057
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: that Danny said in terms of, you know, being in

1058
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: the space just because that's where our people are. There

1059
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: is something to that, but it's also married to you know,

1060
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: being an independent or being a conservative, just even listening

1061
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: to the sunny I'm like, hell, let let all the

1062
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: freedom fighting black folks unite, no matter where they are

1063
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: on the political spectrum, because our people, from an ancestral

1064
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: point of view, we would not be where we are today,

1065
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: although we got a long long way to go. Black

1066
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: people had to come together and put their blackness first.

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Speaker 1: And it pains me to have black people, where they're

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00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: on the progressive side or the conservative side or no

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: body side, to forget that we are black first. We

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00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 1: catch hell because of our blackness first. All that other

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00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: stuff comes second, third, fourth, and fifth. So the progressive

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00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: movement itself and black was right about you know what

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00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: he said. I mean, here were black first, so it

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00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: don't matter if we're rocking, progressive or conservative. Is easy

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00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: for black people to be left out of the mix

1076
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: And the reason why we're being left out is because

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00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: we're not raising enough hell. We are not making requisite demands.

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00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: Because see, when you make a demand, mycha mother used

1079
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: to say, don't write a check your ass can't catch

1080
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: when we make a demand, that we gotta be able

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00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: to back that thing up. But no, we don't do

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: that because they got us divided and conquered based on

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00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: who's a Democrat, who's a Republican, who's a conservative, who's

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00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: a neo liberal, who's a progressive? You know, just named

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00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: the label, and that's where they have us. There is

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00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: no other group walking the face of the earth. Who

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00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: is more progressive than black people? And what I mean

1088
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: by that is that it doesn't get more progressive then

1089
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: trying to fight for your very physical and psychological and

1090
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: spiritual freedom. We're the first damn freaking fighting progressives up

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: in this piece, and then we're gonna let our light

1092
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: skinned cousins take that over. Heale to the know, we

1093
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: are the progressives and everybody else following us. That's it.

1094
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: You know, my sister, one of my sisters, sent me something.

1095
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: It was a system on there, and then she was

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00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: really she was talking about black women. But I'm gonna

1097
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: expand what she was saying, But she was saying to

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00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: the sistance, we are the prototype. You know, people getting

1099
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: lips injected, butts injected, hips injected, you know, all the

1100
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: stuff that they told us, and I'm just using the

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00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: physical as an example, all the stuff they told us

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00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: over the millennia that was not attractive. Weed a weed

1103
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: the prototype. So we are the prototype physically, we are

1104
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: the prototype, mentally, we are the prototype. Spiritually, were the prototype,

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: and so for us to be in this kind of

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01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: situation because we're picking up other people's bad habits and

1107
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: it burns my behind figure oll not have conversations all

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01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: the time. Let me tell you, black men, we love

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01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: you now. We love you and we got to love

1110
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: each other enough and we do vote together. We tell

1111
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: about we ain't a mona lift the hell, we ain't

1112
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: we a mana lift when it comes to voting. That's

1113
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: what we are. And the reason why Democrats ignore are

1114
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: black behinds because they know, no matter what happens, I'm

1115
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: not even sure if they start killing our kids, we

1116
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't be cleaning that did that. Black people are going

1117
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: to vote over for Democrats no matter what. Republicans ignoring

1118
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: our behinds because hey, no matter what, we're voting for

1119
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: the Democrats. So you don't get nothing with all of

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01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: us are all in one basket like that. The other

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01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: people of color get some stuff because they're they're they're

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01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: date other people. They will speed theate other folks, but

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01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: not black people. So that and then the other two

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01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: things I wanted to say, I already said that. The

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01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 1: last thing I wanted to say to close this thing

1126
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: up because I know figul is gonna open it up

1127
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: to other things. And Figirl again, definitely appreciate you bringing

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Speaker 1: us all together. Loving my brother Michael render a k

1129
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: a killer Mike in the house, love him so much,

1130
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: and figure O. Now we're plotting, playing, the strategizing, organizing.

1131
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm taking from uh Michael's saying because we, like, you know,

1132
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: using as an example, we were like going hell to

1133
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: then all they ain't gonna jump on all brother, our

1134
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: brother like that and blame everything on him. I said

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01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: the other day on my show, figure Out, and you

1136
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: and I talked about this. This came from our conversation.

1137
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: Hell if he like you said in your tweet, hell

1138
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: if he more powerful than President Obama. And I added

1139
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: to that thing that he might as go on the

1140
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: room for president run, Michael, run, goddamn it. That's that's

1141
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: what needs to happen. Okay, my last point, I'm gonna

1142
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: pick up the voice of of one the greatest, one

1143
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: of the greatest novelists of the twentieth century, and that's

1144
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: James Baldwin. And he said, to be a Negro in

1145
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: this country and be relatively conscious is to be in

1146
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: a rage almost all the time. While I'm raging, and

1147
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: I need some other people who rage in Two. We

1148
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: are black first, this country is never gonna let us

1149
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: forget it, and all of these parties take us for granted,

1150
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: and at some points we gotta say we're not. We're

1151
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: not gonna keep playing these games with these people because

1152
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: love don't live here anymore. It doesn't and it never did.

1153
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: And then my last went to my last one figure

1154
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: out because my brother is a conservative, he always get

1155
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: into it all the time, and she knows and he

1156
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: says to me, how in the hell can black people

1157
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: vote for the party that you know it was all

1158
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: about the slave life, the slavery life, And that is

1159
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he is making a valid point. Neither of

1160
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: these parties ultimately give a damn about us, our blackness,

1161
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: our kids, our kids kids. What is needed to turn

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01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: this thing around in terms of lifting black folks. They

1163
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: don't give. We gotta make them give a damn. Brother

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01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: Frank Dugan said, power can see nothing with how to

1165
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: and it never will, it never has. It's about human nature.

1166
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: And all these other groups that the bishop names, they're

1167
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: gonna continue to gain because they're making demand and they

1168
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: back it up, and we need black people to start

1169
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: making a demand. Getting in the room, we got a

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01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: real hundred said on nothing except for this point. We

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01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: are black first, and black liberation is contingent on us

1172
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: understanding our positions in the universe. We are black first,

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: and we need a damn prototype. Back to your finger, Brom,

1174
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm right. I'm surprised you didn't telling my real nickname. Y'all.

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01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: She called me Mouse and if I see blue and

1176
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: and MOUs got rial win it because you know his uh,

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01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: Denzel's character needed him, and Mouse started kids killing folks

1178
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: and cutting folks, and and Denzel's character, I don't need

1179
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: this kind of help. Mouse said, if it that helps,

1180
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: you know what you called me for? You know how

1181
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: I roll. That's one scene and then the other scene

1182
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: was when he kills no boy because this is Charat

1183
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: told me to watch him and this Zel's character came

1184
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: back and was like, what you kill? Little? He said,

1185
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: you're in the left with me. If you don't want

1186
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: to kill, you need to help. I do what needs

1187
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: to be done. And that's bigger roll. Yeah, she is

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01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,959
Speaker 1: definitely she is to live your pope, baby. She mouth,

1189
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: that's it. Don't call her unless you want some folks kill.

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01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: Don't do it. You don't do it, baby, And She'll

1191
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: tell y'all did the best that I could. I hold

1192
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: I held out as long as I could. Somebody got

1193
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: to cut. Thank you. That's some tea. And she's speaking

1194
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: from behind the scenes, y'all, she's not speaking. I just

1195
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: need I'm just glad you just confirmed that for them,

1196
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: because what y'all see on this podcast, what y'all see

1197
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: this is how him for real, for real. I'm talking

1198
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: about all the way up to everybody from Bernard all

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01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: the way down behind the scenes, in front of the scenes,

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Speaker 1: on the side of the scene. Shout out to Marcus

1201
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: in the building, I see you, brother. He was trying to,

1202
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, on the inbox, trying to keep peace in

1203
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: the inbox between me and somebody else, because hey, I'm

1204
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: the saying the inn box public whatever is going down.

1205
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: So the thank yous to the turning for that. I appreciated.

1206
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: Two more quick introductions and then right interday we're gonna

1207
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: get into it and speakers, you know again telling everybody

1208
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: I have here is respectful, so I don't have to

1209
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: worry about you know, trolling and people you know, custom

1210
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: folks out and all that type of stuff. Um. But

1211
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: as soon as lease last two introductions, um, last two introductions,

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01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: I want to get straight into the conversation. And I

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01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: think it's important we just kind of go straight to

1214
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: Georgia if you don't mind, since that it's really, you know,

1215
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: the black centering, the Black conversation right now, and I

1216
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: want Um Touring and Danny to go right into the conversation.

1217
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: But any of the speakers can unmute yourself, uh, you know,

1218
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: and respond to anything at any time as soon as

1219
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: we get done with these last two conversations. And again, speakers,

1220
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: I know some of you have to go. I believe Nikki.

1221
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: Thanks Lessie for let me know she had to tap out.

1222
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: I know Bishop is going back and forth. He's in

1223
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: a convention and so he's going back out as well.

1224
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: So speakers, again, please, you know, don't feel obligated. I

1225
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: know you're pulled in a lot of different directions, but

1226
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: I at least wanted everybody to have their introduction so

1227
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: people can know, you know where you stand. And then

1228
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: if you can't stay for the entire discussion, I definitely understand.

1229
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: So let's go to Jeff Charles, who's also known as

1230
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: Jeff on the Right, uh, who also holds a fresh perspective.

1231
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: So where are we on you consider yourself a conservative libertarian,

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,959
Speaker 1: where are we in that space. Yeah, So first, thanks

1233
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: for having me on. I had a great time with

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01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: you on the Hill earlier this week, so I appreciate

1235
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: you inviting me here. Um, when it comes to where

1236
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: we are on the right, whether you're a conservative or

1237
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: libertarian or whatever. Uh, you know, mid terms happened, Republicans

1238
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: didn't get their red wave. They'll probably take the House,

1239
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: maybe the Senate. We'll see how that works out. Although

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01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm not really confident that virtual Walker is gonna win

1241
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: in the runoff. But you know, I think Bishop said

1242
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: earlier the nation is divided, and I'm I hate to

1243
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: be a Debbie downer. I think it's about to get

1244
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: a lot worse. Um. I think with the fighting that

1245
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: we're going to see between the Biden administration and House

1246
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: of Public Ends, it's just gonna intensify. Um, what I'm

1247
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: seeing with with Black America. I think there is a

1248
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,479
Speaker 1: sea change starting to happen where a lot of black

1249
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: people are gravitating away from the Democrats. Now that doesn't

1250
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: mean that they're necessarily gravitating towards Republicans, but I do

1251
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: see a lot of disillusionment. I see a lot of disenchantment. Uh,

1252
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: there's a growing sentiment that the Democrats aren't performing their promises.

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's already been brought up, and I've been

1254
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: seeing this for over the past year and a half.

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: Black people are complaining that Democrats are taking care of

1256
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: everybody else except for their most loyal voting block. It

1257
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: reminded me of the ballot or the bullet speech by

1258
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: Malcolm X when he says, talking about Democrats, how they

1259
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: get into Congress, you vote them in, and then they

1260
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: take care of everything else, and now they bring up you.

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01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: Now they bring up us. The difference now though, that

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: they're not even bringing us up. They're they're paying just

1263
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: more lip service. And I'm seeing a lot of people

1264
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: among the Democratic intelligentsia talking down at us. I mean,

1265
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: I thought people expressing fears that black men or black

1266
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: people were going to get blamed if Democrats didn't do well,

1267
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: especially in Georgia. Um, I'm not saying that that that

1268
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: that has happened, but I mean, it's it's it's clear.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Stacy Abrams black support has decreased in twenty

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Speaker 1: eight teens when she ran for governor. She got about

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01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: the vote in this election. According to Exipoles, I think

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Speaker 1: she got around that is a significant drop, um. But basically,

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Speaker 1: I mean they rewarded our loyalty with nothing. But on

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Speaker 1: the right you got people I mean that the GOP

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Speaker 1: is not presenting an alternative. They are ignoring the black

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Speaker 1: community like they always have have that, like they've been

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Speaker 1: doing for decades. Uh, They're they're not coming out with

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Speaker 1: any type of black agenda and not even not only

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Speaker 1: are they not providing an alternative. A lot of influencers

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Speaker 1: on the right, even some of some politicians, and their

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Speaker 1: rhetoric are even antagonistic towards the black community. It's something

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Speaker 1: that I deal with over here quite a bit, and

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Speaker 1: Stunny too. Uh. There is a civil war among the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party and it's been going on for even before Trump.

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Speaker 1: I expect that to intensify right now. You've even got

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Speaker 1: people talking about moving on from from Trump and they're

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01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: propping up to Santis. But then there's still the Mago

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01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: wing that wants Trump, or they want at least his

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Speaker 1: policies or his approach. And I'm not sure how that's

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01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna shake out, but that's what's going on on the right.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna echo what Stunny said earlier. There is also

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Speaker 1: another civil war, and it's among black conservatives. This has

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01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 1: been going on for a few years now, um, probably

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Speaker 1: even longer than that, and it is the how should

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Speaker 1: I say, the conventional black faces that conservative media and

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party have put forth as their black faces.

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Speaker 1: This has been an issue for decades um. And but

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Speaker 1: now with the advent of alternative media in other ways

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Speaker 1: to get people's voices out there. Black conservatives who don't

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01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: agree with all that stuff, and black conservatives who don't

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01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,919
Speaker 1: want to use their platforms to bash the black community

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01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: all day long, they have with other ways to get

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01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: out there, social media, YouTube, even conservative news sites that

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: are willing to have our voices on there so you

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to go on on Fox News or

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01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: more more mainstream conservative outlet to be seen and to

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Speaker 1: give an alternative viewpoint to the conservative base. UM. I

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Speaker 1: do believe that that civil war is going to intensify

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Speaker 1: as well. I'm already staying I'm already staying a shift

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Speaker 1: in that regard, and I'm seeing an increase in the

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01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: rhetoric and Sunny and I talked about this before, but

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01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got their auditions now for who's going

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01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: to be the next black face that they put up,

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: so that that's going to be an issue. So what

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing here is that I think there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot more division. I think there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot more um antagonism, and I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: completely a bad thing, because we do need to be

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01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: able to have these conversations, which is why I'm grateful

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01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 1: that you're hosting this tesseling, because we do need black voices,

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01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: black spaces from all sides coming together to hash these

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Speaker 1: issues out. Uh. I'm not sure that Democrats are going

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: to enjoy the black vote for too much longer, but

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Speaker 1: I also don't necessarily think that means that they're all

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Speaker 1: going to go towards Republicans. I think a lot of

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01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: black people either want Republican or another party or they

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01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: stayed home, and I think that's why we're seeing, uh,

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Speaker 1: these trends that we're seeing right now. So it's I

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Speaker 1: think we are in some in for some some for

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Speaker 1: some very interesting times coming up. Thank you so much.

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01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: If um this is a great, great conversation. UM, guys,

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01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: when you are h and and sending a request to speak,

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Speaker 1: is it at the bottom of the I can't remember

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of your phone own because just we

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01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: have a special guest listening that I want to bring

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Speaker 1: up to speak, but he cannot find bottom the bottom left. Okay,

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01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: so see if you can find it from the bottom left. Um,

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Speaker 1: So before we do that, one last one, lass a

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01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: quick intro that I want to do, Uh, the founder

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Speaker 1: of Black Guns Matter. Shout out to uh the black

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01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: folks that believe in the two A. I am a veteran.

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: I will absolutely pack the nan on your ass. And

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01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: so we need to understand that black Guns matter, and

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01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: some of us are not gonna try to talk you

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01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: out of it. Some of us will give you the

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01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: same type of firepower that you bring our way. So

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01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: I believe in Now I know you. I know you

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01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: liberals don't like it. You do want everybody to sing

1349
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,560
Speaker 1: every way through and cormby y'all, hug it out and

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01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: all that. But that's some of us that do believe

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01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: in packing illegally packing. So shout out to uh, Mr

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01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: Torrey in the building, Um, Roger Terrey, I believe I

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01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: pronounced it correctly, who identifies as a libertarian. Give us

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes on this on your perception. And again, guys,

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01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: Black Effect Podcasts, I understand you may not want to

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01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: sit here all night long. Uh, my producer is recording

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01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: in the background, so we we are definitely still recording it.

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01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: So you can leave whenever you need to. Black Effect.

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01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: These people like talking in this space. This is so

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01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: don't feel like you whenever you want to tap out,

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01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: tap out. Also to my speakers, since you have given

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01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: you know, your introductions, if you feel like you want

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01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: to tap out, you know, please do that as well,

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01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: because we're coming up on um the two hour mark,

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01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 1: and I want you to know that if you've already

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 1: given your introduction and that's all you want to contribute

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: to the conversation, that's fine too. But if you want

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01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: to hang out for the discussion, uh, please do so.

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Speaker 1: So with that said, uh, tell us where we are

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Speaker 1: to ray from your viewpoint. Hey, thanks first and foremost

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Speaker 1: for having me Tesla. Um, everybody, my name is Marge

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Speaker 1: to Ray. Like you know, Tesla said founding and Black

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Speaker 1: Guns Matter, Libertarian. Um, you know I've spent some time

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: she raised democrats, was Republican for sometimes speak at all

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Speaker 1: these different events see packs so forth and so on Um,

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Speaker 1: libertarianism for me right now was the only option and

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: maybe with a touch of independent for black people. Um,

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01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party obviously it's not even like a question anymore.

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01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: Even people that you know identifies the progressives have recognized

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,959
Speaker 1: that the Democratic Party has just milked the black community

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: for the political stance, for political power, and they have

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01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: zero interest in attempting to do anything different day. Why

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01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: should they We have not given them given them a

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Speaker 1: reason to. And regardless of if most of our folks

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: are there, you know, if most of our folks are

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: in prison, that's still not just the spot. It's still prison.

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01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 1: There's freedom outside, and if there's less people outside, that

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01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: doesn't make the more people inside the prison correct. They

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01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: should be fighting for freedom. So that's every I'm pretty

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01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: sure everyone has that perspective about the Democratic Party, whether

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01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: we are recognizing that they were the party that tried

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01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 1: to push for slavery. Um, the Republican Party came out

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01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: of that to try to attempt whatever. We already know

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01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: that history. Now we go to the GOP and a

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01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: Republican Party, and is something that Jeff just said, Um,

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01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: the reality is and Sonny set it for it eons

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01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: at this point, they don't care. They're not attempting to

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Speaker 1: try to fix it. When we started Black Guns Matter,

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01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: doing this outreaching demographics where there's high levels of violent

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Speaker 1: crime to teach people about self protection. They're right to

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Speaker 1: keep them bear arms, that stated in the Constitution and

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Speaker 1: the Bill of Rights. We tried to work with the

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01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: n r A. Hey, you guys just may not know

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01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: how to engage this demographic. And for two or three

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: years of trying there, we stopped trying to help them

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01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: because they do not care. They are catering to a base.

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01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: The n r A is gonna cater to their four

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01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: to five million, uh you know members, extract resources from them.

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01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: The GOP operates similarly in that way. As many times

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Speaker 1: as they'll say it's a big ship, it takes time

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01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: to right the ship, blah blah blah blah blah blah

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01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: blah blah. They do not care. There has been literally,

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 1: we've created spaces where, hey, here are black voices, black

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01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: conservative voices that you should listen to. Um. I gave

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01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 1: up my personal time at Seapack right before Donald Trump again,

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01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: after I had been on that main stage a bunch

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01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: of times to put some of those black, powerful voices

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01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: that are in this space right now. To put them

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01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: on stage to highlight the platform takes off. Everyone loves it.

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01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: They lay out the conservative American Conservative Union made a mistake,

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01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: talked the match slap every so often. They're not good

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Speaker 1: at that. I contend that the GOP, the Republicans, and

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01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: the Democrats do not care. Why am I saying this?

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01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: Black people need a political vehicle that is fresh enough

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01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 1: without the baggage. Many people in this space or that

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01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: are gonna hear this space, are feeling politically homeless right now.

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01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: You cannot ignore the fact that your community has looked

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01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: exactly the same if you lifted, if you live in

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01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: and left the city, your community feels and maybe even

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01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: feels worse. You cannot deny that something don't feel right

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: over there at the GOP, they're not the same party

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01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: of you know, the Frederick Douglas Black Conservatives. They're not

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01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: even attempting to highlight strong black men. And this is

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01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: not a distant assistance at all, but they're not attempting

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Speaker 1: to highlight strong, solid black men doing the doing intelligent,

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Speaker 1: powerful work. Adrian Norman is in this space. He was

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Speaker 1: one of the black men on that panel at Seapack.

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Speaker 1: Adrian Norman has his thing together, he writes, he's a writer,

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Speaker 1: he's on point. They're not interested in highlighting that they

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01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: are two wings of the same bird. If you feel

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: politically homeless because of that. The Libertarian Party, the third

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01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: largest political party in America, has none of that baggage.

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01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: We are about limited government, we are we are about

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: free market enterprise. We are about critiquing each side objectively

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01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: when it needs to be done. And if you are

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01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: a person that shields politically homeless, you know, come be

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: a part of VLM, the Black Libertarian Movement. The reality is,

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01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,440
Speaker 1: if there is not a different party or a stronger

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01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: party that could potentially sway votes, twelve of America determines

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01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in these political spaces that that hovers.

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01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: And I'm not really them, I'm not this. I'm not

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01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: that the person that can move the needle in those

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01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,839
Speaker 1: spaces wins. That's just what it is. That's the numbers.

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01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: I think that we have an opportunity here to go

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01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: to a party that's big enough, that has ballot access

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01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,879
Speaker 1: and all those different things, and we can shift culture.

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Speaker 1: If not the Democrats, well, the Republicans have no political

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Speaker 1: or financial interest. Two acquiesced to your demands. As the

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Speaker 1: sister Nina said, they have no reason to acquiesce to

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Speaker 1: your demands because there's no competition in the marketplace. It's wrestling,

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Speaker 1: it's red and blue on TV. But behind the scenes

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01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: they teaming up. They got very nonpartisan to give a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of money away to Ukraine, but yet still

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01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: won't have the conversation about reparations. Okay, So saying this

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Speaker 1: all to say, guys, Um, for me, the reason why

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Speaker 1: the Libertarian party fits that democratic we have none of

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Speaker 1: that baggage. We have all the valid access. We just

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Speaker 1: we the culture is an alignment with the overlap that

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Speaker 1: we see in black conservatives. The culture of libertarianism and

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Speaker 1: the philosophy is an alignment with um, the issue some

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Speaker 1: of the issues that we have in the you know,

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Speaker 1: the on the progressive side, there's a lot of overlap

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Speaker 1: with very little of the baggage. So um, that's the

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Speaker 1: reason why I represent for that particular UH philosophy. And

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Speaker 1: I would contend that even if you do look into libertarianism,

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Speaker 1: you still maintain an independent thought process. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying everybody should rush to the Libertarian party. I'm saying

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01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: we should look into libertarianism as a culture and how

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Speaker 1: it's beneficial for our black communities as well as UM,

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Speaker 1: you should you should look into Independent as well, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not about trying to just empower just one political

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01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: party and they do the same thing that the Democrats

1483
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: or the GOP does because is no political uh competition,

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01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,560
Speaker 1: So look at the Independent as well. But I identify

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01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: as the Libertarian for those reasons as well as UM

1486
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: big boy from outcast, you know, she huge shouts to

1487
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: Eric July, Larry Sharp ran for governor New York, all

1488
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: these different you know men and women that are in liberty.

1489
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: But you know, uh, leftist media does a very good

1490
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: job of not making the libertarian movement or party seem

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 1: viable to black folk. Most black folks never even heard

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01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: of it. So UM again, third largest Party. Thank you

1493
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: all for listening, Tesla, thank you again for hosting this

1494
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: space where we can have these civil dialogues as well

1495
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: as UM just share different ideology. Thank you so much.

1496
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: And if I had to pick a party, it would

1497
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: be libertarian because I I absolutely you know, love and

1498
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: and just and and so we've gotten the the introductions

1499
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: at the way, but I just want to speak to that.

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01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: I I love UH libertarian because it just it really

1501
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 1: centers things, and just so for the sake of the

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01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: wrong US, I don't want to assume that everybody knows,

1503
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, the difference between and not talking down with anybody.

1504
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: But I always trying to point out to people that

1505
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: you have an ideology and then you have a party.

1506
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: So I can have a left ideology. I can have

1507
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: a leftist ideology and be a Democrat. I can have

1508
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: a leftist ideology and be a progressive, but understanding proggressive.

1509
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: It's not a party. A lot of progressives are still

1510
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: registered Democrats, but they identify as a progressive. You also

1511
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: can be a conservative, like Sonny Johnson identifies with a

1512
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: conservative ideology, but it doesn't mean he's going around saying

1513
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm a Republican. I'm a Republican. So I do want

1514
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: folks to spend a little bit of political education time

1515
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: or understanding the differences between when somebody says I'm progressive.

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01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: Because I did to show the other day and she said,

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01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: you know what, the independ When you're independent, don't you

1518
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: split the vote? The Independent Party doesn't have any power

1519
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: as a teller. There is no independent party. Independent just

1520
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: means you are not party affiliated with any a party

1521
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: that you are independent. But I lean left, but I

1522
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: still have conservative values. And so that is why if

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01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 1: I had, if there was a party that I had

1524
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,480
Speaker 1: to force myself in, it would be libertarian, because libertarian

1525
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: holds a pretty good balance of both left and right. Um.

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01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: And so I encourage for us to looks into look

1527
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: into it. So we did perfect timing with the introductions.

1528
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: We're right at nine thirty on the hour. Now we

1529
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: get to the good part, the fun part. Getting down

1530
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: to the good part. This old school song. You probably

1531
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: don't know about that Houdini shout out to kill the

1532
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: mic in the building. For some reason, it's not showing him.

1533
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: I can't see him in the building. Um, but he

1534
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: wanted to come up and speak as well, since that

1535
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: is the man of the week that they well the

1536
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: last eight hours that they have been uh um trending

1537
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: and tweeting and talking about, and he wanted to come

1538
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: in and speak his position as well. So hopefully I've

1539
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: asked him to get in, uh, come out and come

1540
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: back in so that he can send me a request.

1541
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: So again, black effect, if you want to uh end

1542
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: your part now that it's totally fine. If not, hang out.

1543
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: Dwayne is recording it in the background. I am recording

1544
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: it in the background. I don't want to hold you

1545
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: any longer. Also, to my speakers, if you need to,

1546
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: we can leave now. Thank you for at least giving

1547
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: your perspective for the show. This will all still be

1548
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: on the show. But I wanted to just get a

1549
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: good overall view from everybody's standpoint. So now let's get

1550
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: to the good part. I want to go straight into

1551
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: the discussion with touring and Danny. Let's get straight to that.

1552
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: And again, speakers, please un mute. If you want to

1553
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: interject in something, you know, as long as it's let

1554
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: the person finish at least their sentence. But this is

1555
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: a conversation. It's not school, you know. I tried not to.

1556
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: I do love you know, calling on people. Raise your

1557
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: hands so I'll know to get to you. Um. But

1558
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: if somebody is going on and on and you want

1559
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: to kind of interject on a point, it's a it's

1560
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: a it's a discussion, and so that's okay. I do

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01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: allow it in my space because I know everybody that

1562
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: I have appear speakers will do that in a respectful way.

1563
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: So let's have the discussion, um, as long as we

1564
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: can hear each other, not speaking on each other, Danny

1565
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: and Tor and I want to get right to that

1566
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 1: because you said touring that and I know, I know

1567
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: you have to leave. I'll so at ten o'clock, you

1568
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: said that Stacy did not introduce herself, make herself known,

1569
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, to black voters. That was one of your critiques,

1570
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: and it is a critique that I've heard, you know,

1571
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: from people in Georgia, in particularly in Atlanta. But she

1572
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: did do well. According to the exit post, she did

1573
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: do well with black voters. Black men and black women

1574
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: voted overwhelmingly. And Danny brought their point up as well.

1575
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: And Danny was coming from the position that not enough

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01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 1: was done outside of Atlanta, for example, in making Georgia.

1577
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: So can you two, can you open up first tour

1578
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: and telling me why you felt it was important to

1579
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: her to have more relationship with black voters, even though

1580
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 1: black voters showed up, kind of give some context with that,

1581
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: and Danny, I wanted to find Okay, Yeah, she did

1582
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: do well with black voters in Atlanta, and she did

1583
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: very well with UM progressive and white voters in Atlanta.

1584
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: But what people keep forgetting, and I think sometimes people

1585
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: in Atlanta forget, is that there are there's Atlanta, and

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01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: then there's Georgia. Atlanta is a very powerful as they

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: economic driver of Georgia, but the voting block in Georgia

1588
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 1: is way bigger than Atlanta. And I think Stacy's campaign

1589
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: did a very good job of going out to white

1590
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: progressives and making her and you know, doing a FaceTime

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01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 1: with them, going to their going to the things that

1592
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: they were they were important to them. We just had

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01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: the pride Um rally about a month so ago, and

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01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 1: she was in one of the cars and she marked

1595
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: in that in that rally. That's very good for white

1596
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: progressives because that lets them know that, you know, you're

1597
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 1: take their concerns seriously and then they can back you.

1598
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: But they were going to back her anyway, just because

1599
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: she's a black woman in Atlanta. That didn't happen. That

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01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: FaceTime did not happen in the black community. Um, she

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01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: started out really strongly, and she also didn't do a

1602
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: really good job reaching out to black men. So when

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01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm asking you just for clarity so that people follow

1604
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: what you're saying, because that critique is important and she

1605
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: needs to know that. But I guess what I'm saying is,

1606
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: what did it matter if they still went to the

1607
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: polls anyway? Still bent though bnthany anyway? Like what what

1608
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: does it matter if she did and if she didn't,

1609
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: Because it sounds like the argument is she went out

1610
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: with all those white folks and they didn't show up.

1611
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out, Okay, if she had

1612
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: more FaceTime, what difference would it would have made? Because

1613
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 1: they still they still voted for overwhelming's That's That's what

1614
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you. I got you. But what

1615
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: I'll say it really quickly. What that would have done

1616
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: was whether she won the selection or she didn't, ye

1617
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,839
Speaker 1: she comes back, and if she comes back for another

1618
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: try at this, she would have a solid base of

1619
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: black voters who would go to bat with her from

1620
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: jump Don't. The time you ever really saw her was

1621
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: on somebody else's TV shows and she did a couple

1622
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: of things she did. She showed up on Fellowship and

1623
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: she did that interview there with black voters who are

1624
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: black men, And she showed up on the eighty five

1625
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: South show. That was the only black, dedicated black outreach

1626
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: that she did. Everything else she just coasting along. And

1627
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: that's what I mean by that. Okay, Danny speak to that,

1628
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: because I guess I'm just a few. I'm all about

1629
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,759
Speaker 1: making them earn our vote, and not just for clarity

1630
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: the room. They need to earn our voters to damn

1631
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 1: shame that if she didn't spend enough time on black

1632
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: people in Atlanta now her campaign said in clarity her

1633
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: campaign did. She said they've had over thirty or forty

1634
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: stops and black communities. I'm all about them earning our vote.

1635
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: But I guess what I'm trying to get to is

1636
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: what difference would it when you're saying she didn't have

1637
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: a base from jump? It seemed like they was with

1638
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,799
Speaker 1: her from jump because they obviously showed up. So Danny

1639
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 1: speak speak to that, and I appreciate that critique, Torn

1640
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: because we always want to be on their head about

1641
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: doing more for us. I'm more so about policy and

1642
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: making sure they do the outreach and spend the money.

1643
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is it was she

1644
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: didn't have to pay a consequence for that. She lost

1645
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: white voters. So Danny speak to that police, I mean

1646
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: and and so I don't start with this like I

1647
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: don't disagree with anything that Torran said. I completely agree

1648
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: she did not have a message for a black man,

1649
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: she didn't not have a holistic message for the black

1650
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: community in general. So I totally agree with that. But

1651
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: the point I want to make is when it comes

1652
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 1: to these statewide racist whether it's in Georgia or any

1653
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: other battleground state, is it's not that candidates or that

1654
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:09,799
Speaker 1: campaign's job to communicate with those quote unquote French parts

1655
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: of the you know, the base that they need in

1656
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: order to turn out. They usually sub contract that stuff

1657
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: out to organizations. So Georgia has an extensive non profit

1658
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: five O one C three five O one C four

1659
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: organizational structure that's led about America Votes, you know, and

1660
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: you have two subsidiary organizations, Georgia Alliance or Progress and

1661
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: Pro Georgia. That's where all of the money goes. So

1662
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: if Stacy Abrils raises seventy two million dollars, the Georgia

1663
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: Alliance and America Votes and Pro Georgia structure is gonna

1664
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: raise a hundred and twenty million dollars so that's where

1665
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: they sub contract all of that communication to the black

1666
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: community outs. So I never expected Stacy to communicate with

1667
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: the black community because I know that's not how it

1668
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: how it works in this state. But where the ball

1669
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: was dropped was not only was Stacy not communicating with us,

1670
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: those organizations were also following the same paths of the campaign.

1671
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: So it all came down to money. And so M

1672
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just close I'll just close out of that.

1673
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to go in on that.

1674
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: But when it comes down to the well, I hit

1675
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: this point when it comes down to the voters outside

1676
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 1: of Atlanta. Yes, Stacy ran it up in Fulton County.

1677
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 1: Stacy ran it up in in in the Camp County.

1678
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: Even the same thing goes for war now. But when

1679
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: it came down to you know, Athens, when he came

1680
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 1: down to Muskogee County, Columbus, you know Bill County making

1681
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: when when when it came down to Handcock, when it

1682
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: came down Equipment County, Stacy lost Equipment County. Equipment County

1683
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 1: was the center of the entire Brian Kemp vote scandal.

1684
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Folks going to jail. She lost their county. Now is

1685
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: there lack for clarity in the room, because I think

1686
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm gathering what you're saying. Are we talking about? Are

1687
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 1: these are these counties black? So just so people on

1688
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: Saturday you're talking about she didn't reach out to the

1689
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 1: rural counties where black people are, you know, outside of Atlanta.

1690
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 1: Just for clarity in the room, Like what, yes, just

1691
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Speaker 1: the clarity of the room, I'm and anything I talked about,

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01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about any everything outside of the two

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01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: quarter of you know of Atlanta. You know, you have Columbus,

1694
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: you know, which is to the south. Yes, making have Making,

1695
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: which is in the middle. You have Savannah, of course

1696
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: we're just on the coast. You have Albady, Georgia home

1697
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: Albany State University. And then you have a few other

1698
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: counties in between, Hancock County, Tallifera County and places like that.

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01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: That's real Georgia. That's the Black belt of Georgia. That's

1700
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: always that that that particular part of the state has

1701
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: always been kind of like that second stream that came

1702
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 1: in you know, to you know, you know, to the

1703
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: party's rescue. But as you know, you know, since Obama,

1704
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,600
Speaker 1: as you know, folks have gotten more progressive. They have

1705
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 1: stopped communicating with folks outside of Atlanta because Atlanta politics

1706
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 1: doesn't work in Hancock County. You know, Atlanta politics county

1707
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 1: black is head. Okay, So that's what I want to

1708
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 1: because I know sometime when we get into the jargon

1709
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: and we think people are familiar. So I want to

1710
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: be just reset what you guys were saying so that

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01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: people can take the because I'm all about taking the

1712
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: talking points of hey, she didn't talk to black people enough,

1713
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: but just so people understand, because you guys live there,

1714
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 1: and so you always want to be educating people that

1715
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: sometimes they just may not know what you what Danny

1716
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: is saying. Guys, uh, that there were black counties outside

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01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, in the rural counties that she lost, that

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01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: if she had reached out to black people in those

1719
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: rural counties outside of Atlanta, that could have ran her

1720
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 1: numbers up. But but okay, great, and and I please

1721
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: y'all when y'all having these when y'all keep educating on this,

1722
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: because I've been in a couple of spaces what you guys,

1723
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 1: and I wanted to make sure you know, the people

1724
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 1: know what you guys were saying, because if you say,

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01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, black people didn't vote for her, and they

1726
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: look at the data, they're gonna say, well, they did

1727
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: vote for her, so what are you talking about. And

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01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: then it seems like and then that's when they run with, oh,

1729
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: they're doing misinformation. You know, it's you see what I'm saying,

1730
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 1: it's not misinformation. But you gotta get these people clarity

1731
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 1: so that they can take the right talking points. So

1732
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 1: I just want to and I just want to make

1733
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: this point and I'll you know, pass it back over

1734
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: the torrent. Like voters outside of Atlanta, especially in those

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01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: black areas, like as Teslaine spoken up, they're really really fickle.

1736
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 1: Like we see what happens in Atlanta. We see, you know,

1737
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: all of the attention that happens up there, all of

1738
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: the you know, everything that goes up there. No one

1739
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: wants to be like Atlanta, but we know that we're

1740
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: just as important to the electorate in this state as

1741
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: Atlanta is. So when we see war Knock and Stacy

1742
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: and all of the other statewide candidates spending se percent

1743
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,879
Speaker 1: of their time in Atlanta, We're still gonna vote Democrat.

1744
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 1: Volks are still going to turn out. But there's a

1745
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 1: difference between I'm making that's excited to vote for the

1746
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Democratic nominee and I'm making that's just okay, let's just

1747
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: do this, just to do it. And that's where war

1748
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: knock is caught up right now. Stacy called it the

1749
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, the hardest, but war knock is caught up

1750
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: right now in that particular period because that's what he

1751
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 1: felt to do after you know, he you know, want

1752
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 1: the you know, the runoff in So it's the fickle

1753
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 1: nature of black voters in those uh, those uh, those

1754
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: those Democrat municipalities outside of Atlanta. Okay, and I'm so glad.

1755
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: And again, guys, put a one hundred up if you

1756
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 1: appreciate the people that are on this panel, particularly as

1757
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: it goes to Georgia, because now you guys got some

1758
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 1: good talking points to run with. Because again, if you're

1759
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 1: just saying black people and vote for a black people

1760
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: and vote for her, and people look at the stets,

1761
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, you're spreading misinformation. Um right, you know

1762
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about different candras. And shout out to killer

1763
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 1: Michael's listening at a very sensive conversation because I wanted

1764
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: to understand I don't know why I can't add them

1765
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 1: to the thing. But that's exactly what he was talking about.

1766
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 1: So let me just speak quickly on Killer Mike in

1767
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: the comment that he made that everybody took and ramp

1768
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: um and it was exactly to what Danny just brought up.

1769
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: When Killer Mike was on Charlotta Magne the Gotts Show

1770
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: called a hell of a week. Guess what the key

1771
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 1: word is weak? He was talking about the week. And

1772
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: so when the clip went out the first time and

1773
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: they clipped it to say that Kemp had a good

1774
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 1: campaign week, he was talking about the week. He wasn't

1775
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: talking about overall the overall campaign if it was better

1776
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: than Stacy Abras. He was talking about the week, and

1777
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: in that context, he was talking about that particular week

1778
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: Kemp went outside of Georgia and those rural counties and

1779
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 1: met with black people outside of Atlanta, and he said,

1780
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: Kemp had a good campaign this week. I need somebody

1781
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 1: in the church to say it with me week keyword week.

1782
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: And what happened was they took that clip and they

1783
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 1: put it out there he run a granted good campaign,

1784
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 1: and immediately everybody on social media ran with that, just

1785
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: like they ran with it on Tuesday when they saw

1786
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: Stacy lost, immediately everybody ran with it on social media.

1787
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm baming black men. I'm blaming killer Mike. I'm blaming, blaming, blaming,

1788
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: until the stats came in that showed that black men

1789
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 1: voted over Wimley, and I ain't seen nobody doing all

1790
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: apology yet. In fact, some of them had doubled down.

1791
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 1: But the point that Mike was making, he says Stacy

1792
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 1: should have went everywhere Kip went, and he was talking

1793
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: about that one particular week, actually giving her free advice, saying, Hey,

1794
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 1: these rural people, they want to hear from you. He

1795
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: was not saying that she didn't meet with any black

1796
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: people at all. So I teach the thing called capitalize

1797
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: off the crisis. And what happens is politicians they'll take

1798
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 1: something and they'll run with that, and then it may

1799
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: not come from their campaign. Let me give y'all some games.

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01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 1: It don't come from their campaign, but they dropped it

1801
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 1: with other people to run with the message. And so

1802
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: what they thought what happened was is, oh, yeah, all

1803
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: this information, all this misinformation, investormation. Black men need to

1804
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 1: get it together, black men and fall in line. Look

1805
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: at what killer Mike is doing. Look at what Killer Mike,

1806
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 1: look at what he said. It is wrong, You're wrong,

1807
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: it's trash, and it got so bad that, um we

1808
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: had to that were not weak because I want to

1809
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: part of the editing team. But Charlot Maagne had them

1810
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: released the full audio of the context of what was said.

1811
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: But by that time that had already the two second

1812
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 1: clip had already ran all over social media, and once

1813
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 1: something happens like that on social media, it's hard to

1814
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: put the two page back in the two So nobody

1815
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: gave a damn about here in the whole context of

1816
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: what he was saying. Nobody gave a damn about what

1817
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 1: he what he was actually, you know, trying to point

1818
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: to talking about the rural voters. You don't have to

1819
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: like Killing Mike, you don't like to have to like

1820
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: his position, But I'm I wanted to bring some clarity

1821
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: that for those that are running around, you know, saying, oh,

1822
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 1: he said he had a better campaign, that's a damn light.

1823
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: Never said that. Another thing he never said. He never

1824
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: said that he supported Kemp, never did say he supported Kimp,

1825
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,640
Speaker 1: never did. But what I will tell you is he

1826
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: damn show supported Stacy Abrams the first time that she ran.

1827
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: Let's just go in and open up the Pandora's box

1828
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: because I want we got some good listeners in here, uh,

1829
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:45,839
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure y'all run with this receipt.

1830
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:48,719
Speaker 1: Go take this bone and run it back. The first

1831
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: time that Stacy Abrams ran and the Day to Stacy

1832
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: Abrams read this was in two seven, two thousand and seventeen,

1833
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: or no, the beginning of the year two thousand and eighteen.

1834
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the year, the day the Stacy

1835
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 1: Abra Now, now, I'm not gonna get into it with

1836
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 1: our brother that got married, because I said, the first

1837
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: political candidate, I'm not even gonna go there. But I'm

1838
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 1: about to give you some real facts and some real tea.

1839
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: I was in the car literally driving Senator Turner and

1840
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: we were doing a um AN event in in Florida,

1841
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 1: and Stacy and Sintor never said this, but I'm gonna

1842
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: say it, and it must be said, because what was

1843
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 1: not to said. Y'all are not gonna keep lying on

1844
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 1: my brother. Now, that's what you're not gonna be. You're

1845
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 1: not gonna keep lying on my brother. The day to

1846
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: Stacy Abras called in two in two thousand and eighteen,

1847
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, she called in tears and

1848
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 1: stayed and and and called me to turn on the phone.

1849
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: I was driving, and she said, I cannot get the

1850
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,839
Speaker 1: support that I thought I would be able to garner.

1851
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: People are not coming behind me. And it's not to

1852
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 1: say that nobody came behind her. To the brother that

1853
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: wanted to debate me all day yesterday on Twitter, I

1854
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 1: didn't say that nobody supported her. I didn't say nobody

1855
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: in the world supported her. But I'm telling you what

1856
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 1: the woman said at her mouth as far as a

1857
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: major political candidate that was running for president, because at

1858
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: the time they were still a begging Hillary Clinton's campaign

1859
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 1: to move forward. Let me say it one more time

1860
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 1: for those of you on the back weighing the fact

1861
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 1: at the bottom they were begging Hillary Clinton to move

1862
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 1: forward for Stacy Avons. And I was there the day

1863
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 1: that she called in tears, and Nina Turner said, if

1864
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't support you, I won't be the black woman

1865
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 1: that I say that I am because I looked at

1866
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: her crazy. Just to be quite honest with you, I

1867
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 1: looked at the crick as I said, here you go

1868
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 1: once again jumping out in the on front of the

1869
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: bus once again with somebody else, but once again per usual,

1870
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: she said, I'm gonna have your back. I'm gonna push

1871
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 1: the Senator Sanders. And because at the time, it was

1872
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: only two or three black surrogons at the time, and

1873
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 1: Killer Mike was one. And y'all don't have to like it.

1874
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: And I criticized Bernard like the best of them. So

1875
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 1: if y'all think I'm caping for Bernard, you got it wrong.

1876
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: You better go google my receipts. Want to come to

1877
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Bernard at that time, Killer Mike and and Nina Turner,

1878
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 1: and there were other surrogans that came on down the road,

1879
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: but at this particular time, they had strong voices in

1880
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: that campaign, and and Senator Sanders to get behind uh

1881
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams. It didn't happen right at that moment because

1882
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: it takes months, you know, to get you gotta keep

1883
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 1: having meetings after means after me, and you gotta keep

1884
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: going back and forth all of that. But Bernie Sanders

1885
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: came out for Stacy Abrams before Hillary Clinton came out, period.

1886
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: And you cannot take away what Senator Turner did and

1887
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: what Killer Mike did. And for those in the room,

1888
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: if y'all have to like Senators Turner, you don't have

1889
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: to like how Spey move. You don't have to like

1890
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 1: how Killer Mike move. But I've been in the room

1891
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: with them, guys when they were talking about reparations. They

1892
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: were pushing for black people. Whether these candidates do it

1893
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: or not, I'm telling you that the conversations were had

1894
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: so a lot of times. You'll see stuff from the

1895
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 1: outside day over. There ain't nobody showing nothing. I'm telling you,

1896
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: people be saying something. Now, everybody ain't like me because

1897
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm calling your ass on the car for Hey, I

1898
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Speaker 1: told you, it's like I did Beto who said he

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Speaker 1: supported reparations, and then when it was time for him

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Speaker 1: to come to the meeting to the rally for David

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Speaker 1: Donald Neely in Texas and he didn't show up at

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Speaker 1: the rally. I went on the mic, on the mic

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Speaker 1: in front of everybody. They said, Beto, your ass, damn lie,

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Speaker 1: you say you support reparations, you didn't show up at

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Speaker 1: the rally, and I'm about to tell everybody you ain't ship.

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Speaker 1: But hey, everybody don't move like me. It's good to

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Speaker 1: have some people in the background that's having some background meetings.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that Stacy Abrams the reason why

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Speaker 1: Bernard Sanders don't give a damn where nobody say the

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Speaker 1: reason why Bernard Sanders could have been plenty organizations that

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Speaker 1: they tried to convince Bernard, but he came down to

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Speaker 1: the black people that was on his campaign that that

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Speaker 1: literally shout out to Marcus Burrill in the building as

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Speaker 1: well as over the African American Average Department. The five

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Speaker 1: black people tend black people that was on the Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders campaign on the national level made that ship happen.

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Speaker 1: So y'all can forget about what about the second time?

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Speaker 1: Why are you staying on the second time? Where he

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Speaker 1: didn't set certainly didn't go against Stacy Abrals. He just

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Speaker 1: decided not to tell y'all who he was voting for.

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Speaker 1: And I got news for you. Black men are not

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Speaker 1: your damn kids. Don't nobody have to tell you what

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Speaker 1: they're doing and how they're doing it? And you better

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Speaker 1: tell me or else. No nobody has to tell you

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. And Mike decided to not bend the

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Speaker 1: need just for the simple fact that y'all told him

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Speaker 1: he got the been to me. Everybody ain't gonna come

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Speaker 1: ben to me the news. I want to speak to

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Speaker 1: that really quick. I just want to say something really quick.

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Speaker 1: And it's also piggybacks on what you were saying, what

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Speaker 1: Danny was saying. What you're talking about is the exact

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Speaker 1: same stuff that Stacy should have been doing in this

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Speaker 1: damn campaign. To tell other people about that, like the

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Speaker 1: like the brother said that she wasn't going to these

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Speaker 1: rural camp these rural counties outside of Atlanta. There's a

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Speaker 1: class issue that goes on in Atlanta that we don't

1937
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Speaker 1: like to talk about where. Look, I'm in Atlanta, every

1938
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: damn bab The black people who live in Atlanta are

1939
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 1: not the black people who live in like Columbus, Georgia,

1940
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 1: who living tipton in places. And I think because of that,

1941
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: they think they're going through these dinners and buckheads and

1942
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 1: hanging around these wealthy rappers and hanging around Lula Chris

1943
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Speaker 1: to changing all these people. That's gonna that's gonna translate

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Speaker 1: in the votes in the rest of the outside of

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Speaker 1: the city. It doesn't work like that. Anybody comes to

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Speaker 1: a free dinner and the conversations that people are like

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Speaker 1: that who are wealthy and black hair, those are not

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Speaker 1: going to translate that people who are on the ground.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get your ass out of Atlanta. You got

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Speaker 1: to go down to but the's people that you gotta

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Speaker 1: go to, the blood country towns. You gotta go to

1952
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Speaker 1: those churches, and you gotta let people see you doing that.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the only time she ever really spoke

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Speaker 1: to black people in Atlanta because when she showed up

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Speaker 1: with Carlos Miller and shout out to Carlos and d

1956
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Speaker 1: C y'all fly, and she go on the eighty five

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Speaker 1: South show, and then when she went on there, she said,

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01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 1: I can't really win just doing black issues because nobody

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01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: support me, so you all. But the clarity is though

1960
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Speaker 1: it doesn't I guess what I want to keep because

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01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: I want to make sure nobody saying we're doing misinformation.

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Speaker 1: They voted for her in Atlanta, so it didn't matter

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Speaker 1: that if anything, that would be Atlanta. Why did y'all

1964
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Speaker 1: show up then for somebody that didn't show up for you?

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Speaker 1: You're right, right, I just want to I just want

1966
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Speaker 1: to be clear because I don't want them saying misinformation.

1967
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Speaker 1: They don't people don't say what they want to say,

1968
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Speaker 1: but the thing, but it's really important to me. I

1969
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Speaker 1: like to make sure they get clear information because they

1970
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 1: can take they can take this around with and how

1971
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Speaker 1: they want to. But I just want to I am

1972
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Speaker 1: glad you're pointing out. I just like to make sure

1973
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm centering the message correctly. If she didn't come

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta and y'all still voted for so the question is,

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Speaker 1: why did y'all vote for somebody that didn't come show

1976
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Speaker 1: up you? That's thee means that I'm sending me. But

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01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to say. I don't want people to

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Speaker 1: run with the idea that, Okay, she didn't show up

1979
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Speaker 1: and it didn't matter because the end of the day,

1980
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Speaker 1: it's about what you win, and she wanted Atlanta and

1981
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Speaker 1: she didn't show up. She didn't show up, So Atlanta,

1982
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: why did y'all show up with somebody didn't show u

1983
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 1: for you? But the rural count is where she did

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Speaker 1: not show up and where she lost. And so that's

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Speaker 1: what I just want people to You know, I'm suggesting

1986
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Speaker 1: people can talk how they want to talk, but I'm

1987
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Speaker 1: suggesting there it's okay, you know, I know it's a

1988
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Speaker 1: lot of people in the room that are just like me.

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Speaker 1: It's like you need to respect the respector and I'm

1990
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Speaker 1: with all of that, but I want to make sure

1991
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Speaker 1: there's a way to, you know, have the conversation so

1992
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Speaker 1: that nobody is saying they don't know what they're talking about,

1993
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Speaker 1: the spreading misinformation, because that would be my counter if

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Speaker 1: I would argue, and I would say, what difference does

1995
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Speaker 1: the matter if they showed up. What she did not

1996
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Speaker 1: do is did not show up for the people in

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Speaker 1: the rural communities, and she lost as a result of

1998
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Speaker 1: And you brought it finish this part, and you brought

1999
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Speaker 1: up into the point where you said running this hip

2000
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Speaker 1: hop campaign that maybe that may work in Atlanta, working

2001
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 1: with Jeezy works in Atlanta, but not even necessarily for

2002
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Speaker 1: black people. Because there was another thing that people were saying,

2003
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, or what the white voters don't want to

2004
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 1: see all of that, that hood ship. But you are

2005
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: bringing up at inter some point, and Mike brought up

2006
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Speaker 1: this point that people outside of Atlanta, even the black people,

2007
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Speaker 1: they don't want to see that ship. And so let

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Speaker 1: me give this last point, and I'm gonna give it

2009
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Speaker 1: back to you. A lot of people ask well, how

2010
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 1: does Stacy do so well the first time? And Mike

2011
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: brought this to my attention as well, because again I've

2012
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Speaker 1: been on the phone all day all week trying to

2013
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 1: get some understanding with Atlanta the first time Stacy one,

2014
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 1: because y'all need to really understand this. It was an

2015
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 1: open seat. It was an open seat, so kimp she

2016
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,639
Speaker 1: was not having to unseat and incumbent. Just so guys

2017
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Speaker 1: understand from a political standpoint, when somebody is unseating an incumbent,

2018
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: because that's been a lot of good. They voted for

2019
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: the first time, they just been vote for a second time.

2020
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Speaker 1: When somebody is unseating and incumbent. It's just like in

2021
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 1: a marriage, before I leave my marriage, before this for

2022
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: this mistress, I gotta make sure this grass is greener

2023
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 1: on the other side. And like Johnny tay Look said,

2024
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: it's always cheap of a keeper. And I want to

2025
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 1: bring up this point. I do not like what Kim

2026
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: did with voting rights. I am with you on that,

2027
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 1: but I want people to understand how political strategy works.

2028
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 1: When somebody, a voter is deciding if they want to

2029
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Speaker 1: leave an incumbent, they have to have a big enough

2030
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: reason for them to leave an incumbent, and because we're

2031
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Speaker 1: coming out of coronavirus, because we're coming out of that,

2032
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 1: Georgia Damner did even close. So businesses were able to

2033
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 1: still get money, stuff was able to move forward. He

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01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 1: was able to keep them economically afloat. Overall, not everyone

2035
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: and not certainly not for all black people. But I'm

2036
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: just giving y'all the big picture to look at. The

2037
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: people were able to still keep money in their pockets.

2038
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 1: So when they looked at that, and they looked at

2039
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 1: Stacey saying I would have closed Georgia down, that is

2040
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 1: a red flag to the moderate and certaintly to the

2041
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: white voter and even to the black business person. That

2042
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: is progressive. So it is an economic issue as well.

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01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: That goes into the equation when it comes to Georgia.

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01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: Another thing that went into the equation as Kemp did

2045
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 1: certify the election with Biden. He was not a election denier,

2046
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 1: so that gave moderates permission to vote for Kemp. So

2047
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: I want you guys, as you're having this conversation, well

2048
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 1: she did great the first time. They just didn't do

2049
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: it the second time because they don't like black women.

2050
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Speaker 1: I also want to recognize that, yes, there is misogyny.

2051
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Speaker 1: I am well aware that there are people that do

2052
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: not want to see black women and and and leadership

2053
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 1: power while because there has not yet been a black

2054
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 1: woman governor. But at the same time, we just elected

2055
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: a black governor for the very first time westmore So

2056
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: that means that race still plays a part before gender.

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01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 1: Let me say it again, race plays apart before gender,

2058
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: because if if, if it's so easy for a black

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01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: male governor be voted, why are we just now getting

2060
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: one with west more So There's two things here. It's

2061
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: not always with misogyny. They just don't want black women

2062
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: to league. It's not always with okay, it's just everybody

2063
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,759
Speaker 1: hate black people. Economics is at the fourth front, particularly

2064
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: in the South. When you look at Georgia, Florida, and

2065
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 1: you look at Texas, Texas, I don't give a damn

2066
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 1: what they tell you. I've lived in Florida and Texas,

2067
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 1: and Texas like their money and they like their guns,

2068
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 1: including the black people people here, even straight out the

2069
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,600
Speaker 1: penitentiary go to thirty and forty jobs, thirty dollar and

2070
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 1: forty dollar jobs in the oil field. So this is

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01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,679
Speaker 1: why Beato did well. But at the end of the day,

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01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: Texas like their money, and so people have to understand

2073
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: you can't run a campaign in Georgia and Texas the

2074
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: same way you will in New York. I'll yield the

2075
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 1: floor back to you. But I just wanted to give

2076
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: people some contact. There's been a lot of opinions, and

2077
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 1: I wanted to get some context on that race. Any

2078
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 1: other speak can you? Can I say, piggybacking on what

2079
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 1: you were saying about Killer Mike and all the misinformation.

2080
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: Remember now, the majority of the folks that were trying

2081
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 1: to come to fire Killer Mike with our own people,

2082
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 1: our own talking heads, um, the people that are supposed

2083
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: to be down for the cause. That's etera. And here's

2084
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:05,599
Speaker 1: here in lies a serious problem is when black men

2085
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 1: decide that they are not gonna walk in locksteps, particularly

2086
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:15,600
Speaker 1: with Democratic Party, Um, they are dismissed. Their their intelligence

2087
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 1: is not taken into consideration, their political opinion, that is

2088
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 1: not taken into consideration, the their viewpoints on the issues

2089
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: of concern for them. By not taking into consideration, they

2090
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 1: are summarily dismissed. You know, I I keep telling people, Uh,

2091
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 1: when I've been criticizing Democrats for the last two years

2092
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:36,759
Speaker 1: for being apathetic when it comes to pushing an agenda

2093
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: that is important to the constituency that put them in power.

2094
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I became a conservative Trump supporter,

2095
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like saying to myself, wait a minute. Uh.

2096
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:52,759
Speaker 1: For four years, you can't find relation that went harder

2097
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 1: against Trump. But all of a sudden, now if I

2098
01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 1: criticized Kamala for saying that America is not is not

2099
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: a racist country, or Clyde Burns for saying the same

2100
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: ignorant thing, or criticize anybody else and don't walk in

2101
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 1: lockstep with the Democrat Party, Now I'm a plant for

2102
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: the Republicans. I'm a Trump supporter and all that fools

2103
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 1: with with with a doctorate degree, two masters, all of

2104
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: that and just summarily dismissed as a plant. Or I'm

2105
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm being misinformed by the Russians. I don't talk to

2106
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 1: the Russians. I'm a black man. I know the issues

2107
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 1: very well, and so we've got to get to a

2108
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Speaker 1: point where we allow each of them to have their

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Speaker 1: opinion and we respect a black man's position on the issue. Again, speakers,

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Speaker 1: jump in where you feel, because I know everybody can

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Speaker 1: so U for that's like for response, Yeah, no, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to spound the bishop. Just coming from a punderstandpoint,

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Speaker 1: the journalism standpoint. This is something if you follow me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, you know I talked about this damnay every

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Speaker 1: day and I probably need to stop doing it so much.

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Speaker 1: But we have really got to focus on creating a

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Speaker 1: different new black media because a lot of the people

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Speaker 1: that we have speaking for us are so connected to

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Speaker 1: the political process that they're forgetting. They're putting their blackness

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Speaker 1: at the back burner to try to gain points. Were

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01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 1: either trying to get a cabinet post or trying to

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Speaker 1: get some sort of job in the media. And if

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01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 1: nothing else, if and if nothing else, if what happened

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01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 1: to tiff and your cross don't tell you nothing else,

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01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: If you don't recognize that you're black before you anything else,

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01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 1: these other people recognize you black before anything. Has to

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Speaker 1: step out the line one of the two times to

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Speaker 1: see what happens to you. Now you talk to everybody's

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01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 1: talking about where's Tiffany, but that she and she's not

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01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 1: gonna be the last one. And I'm not knocking on her.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that if you're going to call yourself

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Speaker 1: a black journalist, you have to be a black journalist,

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Speaker 1: not just a journalist who is black. And you can't

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Speaker 1: demonize people who have opposed views to what you have.

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01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 1: And you can't automatically start jagging people who may think

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Speaker 1: politically different than you as some sort of Trump supporter

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01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: or miss Andrew or or somebody who's believing in misogyny.

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01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: But that's a work like that, and no other ethnic

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Speaker 1: group does that. We're the only people who could go

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Speaker 1: at odds with the people who are supposed to better

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01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 1: spokespeople that way. That's crazy. And that's all I gotta

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Speaker 1: say on that. Okay, Dan, I know he had something,

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01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 1: but let me just say this. When the people had

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Speaker 1: tag and where is Tiffany ship? Where was y'all when

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01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 1: Melissa Harris Perry told you about MSNBC years ago? Just

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01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 1: for in case you guys don't know, go google Melissa

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01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 1: Haris Perry. Uh. She said, flat out, quote in quote,

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Speaker 1: I will not be your black mammy bobblehead, and I'm

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01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,600
Speaker 1: not just gonna go along to get along MSNBC. And

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01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: she walked away from MSNBC. She had a weak show

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01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 1: on MSNBC, and the next person that raised their hand

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01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 1: and said I'll go ahead and be the next host

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01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 1: for the Weekend NBNC was George Reid, who eventually pushed

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01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 1: to get Tiffany on the show. So I'll just leave

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01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 1: at there. So I'm looking for the leaders. And I

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01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 1: know there was a letter that went out earlier this

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01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: week that was talking about, you know, these black leaders

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Speaker 1: that got put a demand date on MSNBC. We demand

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01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 1: to know some answers. I showed wish somebody had put

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01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 1: a thought leaders to put out of demand list for Biden.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna lead at there, and I'm just gonna

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01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 1: go ahead, and uh, I wish somebody had a thought

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01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 1: or two about that and had a demand date with

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01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 1: an end date, and you better answer yes or no

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Speaker 1: what y'all doing with black people or else. But I'm

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01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 1: just gonna say that some people are more concerned about

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01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 1: where it's Tiffany because they want to be on that

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Speaker 1: on that show, and so they want this show. Let's

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01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 1: just keep it real, they want to keep access to

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Speaker 1: this show. So and and some people give a damn

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Speaker 1: about it. You know, I'm not saying that people don't

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Speaker 1: care about what's going on, but what I am saying

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01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 1: is I ain't seen nobody. I ain't see no demand

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Speaker 1: letter go out to Biden this year from no thought

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01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: letters saying you better do this or else. Danny, I'll

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Speaker 1: kick it back to you again. Speakers come in where

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Speaker 1: you want to chime in, where you want to get in,

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Speaker 1: where you're fit in. All of y'all got something to say.

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Speaker 1: You're the most talgative in the game. So you don't

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01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 1: have to wait on me to speak. Just get in

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01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: where you're fitting. But Danny, you know you have something

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01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 1: you want to say next. Yeah, so I'm getting ready

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01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: to hop on from but I may hop on it um,

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01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 1: you know a little time later. But I wanted to

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Speaker 1: implement the numbers into the conversation. So when I talked

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Speaker 1: about running up the numbers and Tess you hit on it,

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01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: like she ran up the numbers in Fulton County. She

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Speaker 1: ran up the number and you know, adjacent the Camp County.

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Speaker 1: So the Camp County came out eighty percent for Sacy.

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Speaker 1: You know, Fulton County came out six state percent the

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Speaker 1: CA you know for Sacy. Now, when you just opposed

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Speaker 1: that to Columbus Georgia, which is the second biggest city

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Speaker 1: in the entire state. When you look at Making, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: which is the fifth biggest city in state, fifty percent

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Speaker 1: when we look at Columbus, Georgia, so in order four

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Speaker 1: and and so I'm gonna take those same numbers and

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Speaker 1: transfer those over to war not and so I think

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Speaker 1: war Knock is gonna win. I think he can win.

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably gonna come up somewhere between percent

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01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 1: war not four percent herschel But that's only if he

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Speaker 1: runs up the numbers in those afromentioned cities and county.

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Speaker 1: So I just mentioned that in addition to those, you

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Speaker 1: got Tella Feroe County, we got Douglas County, which is

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Speaker 1: rate within that too eighty five circle, only a fifty

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Speaker 1: five percent came out and voted for both Stacey and

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Speaker 1: We're not respectably. So if we're able to run up

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Speaker 1: those numbers sevent as Herschel Walker did in every other

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Speaker 1: red section within the state, I'm looking at THEMT now

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Speaker 1: just randomly pointed the arrow Telfare County seventy one, h

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Speaker 1: Bryan County eighty six to twelve, Brooks County set sixty four.

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Speaker 1: So in the places we know where Democrats live in

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Speaker 1: state and vote. We have to run up those numbers

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Speaker 1: in those places, and so um so that's it. That's

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Speaker 1: all I gotta say. I think some real quick yeah

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Speaker 1: do you know, do you don't want to cause actually

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Speaker 1: go to visit those places is equal to physically go there.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I don't know that like you know,

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Speaker 1: as I you know, saying that my introduction, you know,

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Speaker 1: when things related to Bill County and making Georgia place

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Speaker 1: where I built my political career at you know, he

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01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 1: wasn't even respecting making then and this was at two

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Speaker 1: or three months after he was elected. And so I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go too deep into it because

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Speaker 1: obviously I got, you know, some ties to the organization

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Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. But I don't think that

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Speaker 1: these capital Actually I know that the campaigns are not

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01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 1: going to physically organizing those spaces. They are going to

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Speaker 1: self contract that stuff off to five O one seed

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Speaker 1: three organizations to educate quote unquote them on how to

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Speaker 1: vote progressive. And then those five on one seed four

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Speaker 1: organizations to attack the candidate to you know, drive out,

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Speaker 1: turnout so you're not gonna see war not walking through

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Speaker 1: the South side of making through Alphabet City, you know,

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01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 1: trying to get folks come out. He's he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: deeper in Atlanta. What's what's gonna happen? All right? And

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Speaker 1: I shut from a received standpoint, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: won't share too much because it's what I'm only reiterating

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01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 1: what Danny has already said when he went to work

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01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 1: for war Knock immediately Um after warn opposite elected. Danny

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Speaker 1: absolutely went in right after Gates saying, we got to

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Speaker 1: spend some time, you know, in these spaces. So he's

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Speaker 1: very passionate about that. I want to ask you this,

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01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 1: Danny um And and torring Um. You know, there's conversation,

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01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: and then this was another interesting part. I want to

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01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 1: bring out. I what I saw, and this is just

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Speaker 1: even all over the country, but particularly in Georgia, where

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01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 1: people were being very strategic what they with their vote

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01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 1: and not just going you know, straight down the ticket.

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01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 1: So you saw people going for Warnock in some counties

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Speaker 1: that they did not go for Stacy. And just reiterating

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01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 1: to those in the room, because I know that people

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01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 1: that actually don't work on the operative side go with

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01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 1: the easiest answer, which is, well, you know, they don't

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01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: like women, or well, it's killing Mike's fault, I guess

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Speaker 1: because killer MIKEA is in control of that's the whole

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Speaker 1: state of Georgia, or whatever it is. They want to

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01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 1: go to the easiest thing, But I just I want

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01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 1: to deal with just actual strategy. Again, going back to

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01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 1: my point, and for those that don't look at it

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01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 1: from this way, a governor's job is not the same

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01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: as a senator. And I know people know that I'm

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01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 1: not trying to minimize anybody in the room, but I

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01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 1: want to be really clear when it comes to a

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Speaker 1: governor and the economic power that an executive has in

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01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 1: that position. Again, I don't I'm not a conservative Republican.

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01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't support Kemp. I don't like what he did

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01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:15,120
Speaker 1: with black voters, voter voter suppression, any of those things.

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Speaker 1: But I do want people to understand that when it

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01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 1: came to the governorship and people being able to keep

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01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 1: money in their pocket, coming out of Corona, people being

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01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: able to keep money in their pocket, it is clear

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01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 1: that they didn't see him as bad enough to replace.

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01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 1: It's very hard to unseated incumbent and so when Stacy

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01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 1: was saying I would have closed, shut down Georgia, and

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01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: we still know that we're still dealing dealing with various

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01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: virus strands of Corona. Believe it or not, there's still

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01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 1: other virus strands that was an economic issue for even

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01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 1: black people at the table. So again, I know the

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01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 1: easiest answer is to blame black men. But in the reality,

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01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 1: war Knock looking at hey, do I want to pick

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01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 1: between Warnock and and Walker? That was an obvious choice

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01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 1: because Walker don't even to know he's running for office.

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01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 1: So you you're gonna find more people that vote for

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01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 1: war not but may not a voter for Stacy to say,

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01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 1: you know what, that may not be who I want

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01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 1: for governor, but my senator, I'm okay with this. Be conse.

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01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 1: Senators create laws, but it's not the same as a

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01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 1: governor in a governor position that one of you guys

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01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: want to speak to yes, um calling you Stacy, Yes, Tesla,

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01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 1: and I definitely want to speak to that. What Stacy

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01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 1: saw was a perfect kind of storm of some misteps.

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01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean and and Kemp. I'm no Kemp supporter, uh,

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01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, I spoke to the bullshit he did

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01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 1: down in Courtment County with throwing those black folks in jail.

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01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 1: So definitely no Kemp supporter, but the political operative and

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01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 1: strategies that he has no choice. And I look at stuff,

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01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, beyond the parties, and so I look at Okay, damn,

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01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 1: that was a big political move he did. You know,

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01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 1: they just made what Kemp there was strategic as hell.

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01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 1: He took the bullets out of Stacy's gun that she

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01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 1: could have, you know, pointed at him. She he took

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01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 1: out the trump bullet. That was the first bull he

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01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 1: took that, you know, block and truck. He took out

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01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 1: the voter suppression bullet because Georgia voted in historic numbers,

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01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 1: not in this only in this election, but also in

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01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 1: the media election after the after the passage of s

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01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 1: B two O two, which was touted by Stacy as

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01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 1: the most detrimental bill in the history of the country.

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01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 1: Jim Port, you know, Jim Crow two point. Oh, we

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01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 1: can't give folks water. All that ship fell flat to

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01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 1: folks outside of Georgia because again Atlanta and like this

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01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 1: is no disrespect or slight to anybody else there. But

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01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to the bigger, more progressive cities, you know,

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01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: they are under the gaze of what the party pushes

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01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 1: out what the national audience is talking about. But when

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01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 1: it trickles down to these smaller counties, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: evenna say smaller counties, bigger cities. Columbus has you know

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Speaker 1: over you know, on a hundred and eighty thousand, two

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01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty people, um or so, and there are

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01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 1: other cities you know that are equivalent, that message doesn't apply.

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01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 1: And so when it comes down to you know, with

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02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 1: Kemp and how he moved in this election, he took

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02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 1: bullets out of stasy gun and she couldn't and she couldn't,

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Speaker 1: you know. And when it came down to the Econi message, um,

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Speaker 1: as you said, Kemp kept the state open. And so

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Speaker 1: if you're a black vote, and when we talk about

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02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 1: black voters, we we automatical bodies are black Democratic voters.

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02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 1: There are black Georgia Conservative voters who have been voting

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Speaker 1: black uh conservative you know values their entire lives. But

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Speaker 1: those posts may be on the fence because of the Trump.

2331
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:35,839
Speaker 1: But when it came down to black voters in general,

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02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 1: when it came down to their pocket books, actually put

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02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: money in their pockets, Kemp wasn't seen as a person

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02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 1: you know that would you know, you know, take money

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02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: out of the pockets, make them poor. And you know,

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02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't gonna talk and make sure black farmers

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02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:52,720
Speaker 1: got money because Georgia passed one of the largest farm

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02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 1: bills independent of the you know, federal government during his administration,

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02:00:57,880 --> 02:01:00,320
Speaker 1: he did his home work and so on. I put

2340
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 1: together lead to the storm that is Stacy Abrahams and

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02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 1: where we stand now. And I say that as a

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02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:08,560
Speaker 1: person who worked for her, you know, during her first race.

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Speaker 1: You know, I say that as a person where she

2344
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 1: kicked off her campaign outside of Atlanta and making Georgia

2345
02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: at seven thirty Boutis Street across from my home house,

2346
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Speaker 1: twenty night not street. So this is a completely objective opinion,

2347
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 1: and this is just the way it is. Okay, Danny,

2348
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if you couldn't hear me and you

2349
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:30,440
Speaker 1: just was ignoring your silster on purpose, because everybody was

2350
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 1: laughing at ass because I kept saying, Danny, can you

2351
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 1: hear and came here, But he probably was pretending like

2352
02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 1: he couldn't get his stalled out. And that's fine. It's

2353
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 1: a great strategy. Um. I want to say this too,

2354
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:41,960
Speaker 1: because I know, you know, there was something po Sam Anna,

2355
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 1: but Stacy don't win. I'm gonna talk about to all

2356
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: black men. Well again, let me just reset the wrong.

2357
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 1: Black men voted overwhelmingly for Stacy. But you gotta make

2358
02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:52,640
Speaker 1: this make sense, guys, because Stacy was, what was it,

2359
02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:56,320
Speaker 1: within ten thousand voters the first time. So if Stacy

2360
02:01:56,360 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 1: couldn't get white voters, if Stacy couldn't get black voters,

2361
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 1: then why did she get it so close the first time?

2362
02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 1: So you when people are having these arguments, you know,

2363
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 1: because you're upset that your candidate lost, you gotta make

2364
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:12,080
Speaker 1: it make sense. The first time, she it was an

2365
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 1: open seat. They didn't know who Kemp was. It was

2366
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 1: an open seat, so they were willing to elect the

2367
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:19,560
Speaker 1: black woman governor. Do that makes it? Can you put

2368
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:21,840
Speaker 1: a one hundred in it? If that just make logical sense?

2369
02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 1: I know people like to get in there and I'm

2370
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 1: gonna run y'all down and run you down. But let's

2371
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:30,160
Speaker 1: just look at logical sense. If she came only within

2372
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 1: what ten thousand or sold voters the first time, how

2373
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:36,040
Speaker 1: is it that she came so close the first time?

2374
02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:39,360
Speaker 1: If nobody was interested in voting in electing a black

2375
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 1: woman governor, Well, the difference. The most logical thing that

2376
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 1: I don't hear people talking about because they're not looking

2377
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 1: at political strategy is it's talking just to be talking

2378
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 1: the quickest thing. And I get it. She didn't talk

2379
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 1: to enough black voters outside in the rural area. She

2380
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 1: didn't do this, she didn't do that. Okay, I get that,

2381
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 1: But let's go to the first logical things statewide. The

2382
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 1: first logical thing is it was an open seat. They

2383
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:02,360
Speaker 1: didn't know stay see, they didn't know Kemp. It was

2384
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 1: in within ten thousand votes, ten something like that. She

2385
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:10,520
Speaker 1: came very close. Once an incumbent gets in office, unless

2386
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:14,400
Speaker 1: you do something to really really make somebody leave that incumbent,

2387
02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 1: it's very hard to ensee an incumbent. And because he

2388
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 1: was able to keep the state afloat, you can say

2389
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 1: he races, you can say he had voted suppression, you

2390
02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 1: can put all that on him. I'm telling you political strategy,

2391
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:29,680
Speaker 1: it is hard to unseat an incumbent unless that person

2392
02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:32,880
Speaker 1: does something really really really really fucked up. And people

2393
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:35,760
Speaker 1: were able to keep their money through Corona and she

2394
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:39,000
Speaker 1: said I would have shut it down. That hurts a lot.

2395
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 1: That really hurt a lot, guys. So as your as

2396
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:46,120
Speaker 1: as all of these Twitter space operatives are having these conversations.

2397
02:03:46,160 --> 02:03:48,040
Speaker 1: I hope y'all get at least a little bit of

2398
02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:50,640
Speaker 1: these facts to take with you and some of your argument.

2399
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 1: I know there's people in the room that, no matter what,

2400
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:55,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna say fun that the black men didn't do it,

2401
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:58,040
Speaker 1: because that's their goal and that's their insue. I know

2402
02:03:58,120 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 1: with some people in the room that are pro black

2403
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 1: and they like, fuck that you should have did more

2404
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 1: for black people. You know they're gonna push that argument

2405
02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:05,840
Speaker 1: no matter what, even if the facts are don't align

2406
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:08,280
Speaker 1: with it. I'm pro black, I'm for black people. I

2407
02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 1: know misogyny exists, make no mistake about it. I know

2408
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: that it is hard to get women in leadership. That's

2409
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:16,480
Speaker 1: why there hasn't been one governor elected as woman. I

2410
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:19,680
Speaker 1: also know that racist first, it does not trump gender.

2411
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:22,240
Speaker 1: It never has, it never will because if that's the case,

2412
02:04:22,400 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have had we wouldn't have been able to

2413
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:26,640
Speaker 1: just elect for the first time a black governor. So

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02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 1: I understand all those things can be true at the

2415
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:31,000
Speaker 1: same time. One reason why I hate toward the space

2416
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:34,160
Speaker 1: is because people just they're not thinking. They just want

2417
02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:36,680
Speaker 1: to push their own agenda and no matter what, with

2418
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 1: no logic, no facts, and just push and push and

2419
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 1: push it. And that's why these pundits were saying there

2420
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:44,160
Speaker 1: was a misinformation going on because people lacking they latch

2421
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 1: onto what they want to push and they run with that.

2422
02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:51,440
Speaker 1: And so Democrats, again, they voted Black men voted for

2423
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 1: Stacy overwhelmingly. The question is if they did not come

2424
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 1: to Torren's point, if she didn't come to Atlanta and

2425
02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 1: she did sit down with you, then why was y'all

2426
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:05,400
Speaker 1: vote for So that's something that's, you know, a conversation

2427
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 1: that we have to have as black people, not just

2428
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,200
Speaker 1: in Georgia. And it ain't about just no damn Stacy,

2429
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:13,720
Speaker 1: I noticed your favorite candidate of the week. But the

2430
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:17,200
Speaker 1: conversation is about black voters being respected across the board,

2431
02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:20,240
Speaker 1: no matter what state like in trash Florida that has

2432
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 1: never invested the amount of money as they should with

2433
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 1: black voters. If you want to know why I became

2434
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:28,400
Speaker 1: an independent, you can thank the state of Florida because

2435
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 1: that's all I did as a Democrat was asked why

2436
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 1: are you not invested in UH candidates below shout out

2437
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,520
Speaker 1: to Emerisa y'allah that ran the state attorney. Peoplen't know

2438
02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:38,320
Speaker 1: that hel she was running, and she's one of the

2439
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:40,840
Speaker 1: most progressive. When she was a state attorney, one of

2440
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 1: the most progressive, went head to head with those Republicans,

2441
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, when national with that by refusing to implement

2442
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:49,480
Speaker 1: the death penalty, which was her job, by the way,

2443
02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:51,920
Speaker 1: she refused to do it, and she just ran for

2444
02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: state attorney and nobody knows about it, and you can

2445
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:58,600
Speaker 1: thank the Democrat Party for that. Let me just add

2446
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:01,680
Speaker 1: something real quick that also adds to the whole theory

2447
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:03,800
Speaker 1: of why she may have lost this race and why

2448
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:06,520
Speaker 1: she was so close last time and so distant this time.

2449
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:08,480
Speaker 1: People need to also bear in mind that we got

2450
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:11,200
Speaker 1: white voters out there too who made different decisions, not

2451
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:14,160
Speaker 1: only based on the fact that there was the coronavirus.

2452
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:17,000
Speaker 1: She said she was shut down things, but as I've

2453
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 1: been posting my content on TikTok, Facebook, YouTube and various

2454
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 1: other platforms, white votus and told me yo, she cost

2455
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,520
Speaker 1: us then the All Star game, which cost this means

2456
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 1: and means and dollars because she was pushing this Votus

2457
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 1: suppressure ship that really didn't exist, as far as we

2458
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 1: saw it, because the numbers went out and we lost

2459
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 1: the All Star Game, small businesses lost a lot of

2460
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 1: opportunities to make money that in that in the All

2461
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:42,840
Speaker 1: Star Game when ended up going up to Utah, and

2462
02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:46,520
Speaker 1: Utah got more votus suppression part of voters restrictions than

2463
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 1: we do, so that was sucked up. Then they also

2464
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 1: said she made this statement on the campaign trail trail

2465
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 1: that Georgia was the worst state to live in. A

2466
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:55,520
Speaker 1: lot of white people didn't like here, and that's it.

2467
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 1: They're like, why would we want to elect someone to

2468
02:06:57,600 --> 02:07:00,160
Speaker 1: be governor who thinks this is the worst state? Know

2469
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:01,920
Speaker 1: what she was trying to say, but I don't think

2470
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 1: it Actually the context of it was actually missed upon

2471
02:07:05,320 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 1: the people that we're hearing it. And then we got

2472
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:09,360
Speaker 1: and then when you bring up the point about um

2473
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:12,480
Speaker 1: leaving Georgia, leaving Georgia open with Corona. So there's three

2474
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:15,200
Speaker 1: strikes right there that people are addressing. So if you

2475
02:07:15,320 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 1: got twenty of white men, so they got twenty three

2476
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 1: percent of white men, they's only got twenty seven percent

2477
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 1: of white women. That may be a reason. So they

2478
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:25,720
Speaker 1: saying Timos not just that she's a black woman, just

2479
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:27,920
Speaker 1: a black woman that made a lot of mistakes, and

2480
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:31,280
Speaker 1: those are costly mistakes, taking money out of people's pockets.

2481
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:33,760
Speaker 1: People think you cost money not to go in their pocket.

2482
02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 1: And then we got you what they can center shipping

2483
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:39,520
Speaker 1: on Georgia. They don't like that. They don't want you

2484
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:41,960
Speaker 1: to tell them that their status is ship and that's

2485
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 1: where they took us. So those are just some points

2486
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:50,880
Speaker 1: and the Republican side of it all what they did,

2487
02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 1: and then this is how fucked up they are. From

2488
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 1: this side of of there. They open centers and put

2489
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 1: them in Atlanta so that they can say that they

2490
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:07,120
Speaker 1: open centers. So basically they have they allocate all these

2491
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 1: millions of dollars every single year they open these centers,

2492
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,400
Speaker 1: which basically all they do is pay their friends. It

2493
02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:16,760
Speaker 1: is buildings that their friends own. It's building um. They

2494
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:19,440
Speaker 1: pay their friends to do the wiring, they pay their

2495
02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:22,200
Speaker 1: friends to do the material. They make a whole way

2496
02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 1: of taking the money that is supposed to be allocated

2497
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 1: for any kind of black outreach and using it specifically

2498
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:32,360
Speaker 1: to pay their friends. And then they hire people with

2499
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 1: no knowledge, with no experience, with no understanding how to

2500
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:41,160
Speaker 1: do anything, and put them at the head of these

2501
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 1: centers and don't give them any access, don't give them

2502
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:49,160
Speaker 1: any kind of connections, and they don't have any responsibility

2503
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:52,240
Speaker 1: over any budget, which means every time they want to

2504
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:56,000
Speaker 1: do anything, they have to come begging the Republican Party

2505
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,400
Speaker 1: or their little the people that are in the upper

2506
02:08:58,640 --> 02:09:02,440
Speaker 1: um tear of them for some kind of funny funding

2507
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 1: to do the most minor things. So I happen to

2508
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:09,560
Speaker 1: know for a fact. And Felicia Killings was in this world,

2509
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:11,760
Speaker 1: was in the room, but she left, and she's the

2510
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:14,040
Speaker 1: one who actually handling a lot of stuff or like

2511
02:09:14,240 --> 02:09:18,800
Speaker 1: conservative wise down in um Atlanta, Georgia UM. But Killer

2512
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:21,720
Speaker 1: Mike had actually agreed to go and meet with them,

2513
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 1: and the Republican apparatus that was running the center said no,

2514
02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:31,360
Speaker 1: which actually caused the girl to be like, what the like,

2515
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:34,240
Speaker 1: what the hell do you want me to fucking do you?

2516
02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:36,960
Speaker 1: You won't see me any help, you won't see me

2517
02:09:37,160 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 1: a team. I have no structure, no anything. And when

2518
02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:44,560
Speaker 1: somebody is willing to come in and actually talk to us,

2519
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:47,640
Speaker 1: you want to veto it from the top because you

2520
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:51,600
Speaker 1: don't know any better. And then after the fact you

2521
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:55,800
Speaker 1: see kept go and actually and interact with I'm killing life.

2522
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:59,320
Speaker 1: So how much easier would it had been for the

2523
02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 1: person running the center if she would have been able

2524
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 1: to have that same amount of access. And this is

2525
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:11,440
Speaker 1: to what Republicans do as they talk about all they

2526
02:10:11,480 --> 02:10:14,400
Speaker 1: have to do is when a couple of percentage points

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Speaker 1: around the edges when it comes to the Black community

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Speaker 1: instead of actually doing any kind of effective outreach that

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02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:27,080
Speaker 1: actually identifies with any problems that are specifically designated to

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02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:30,960
Speaker 1: the black community. And this is like they're not even

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02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:34,800
Speaker 1: They're not even trying, you know what I'm saying. And

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02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:40,920
Speaker 1: even if if Kemp and his GOP state people have

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02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 1: learned a lesson, it is clear and obvious from the

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02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:48,640
Speaker 1: election that happened on Tuesday that no other fucking Republican

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02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 1: has learned that lesson. And just to add one thing,

2536
02:10:52,320 --> 02:10:55,560
Speaker 1: while I got the mic, um, I do host the show,

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02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:59,280
Speaker 1: So I would love to have the opportunity to chop

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02:10:59,320 --> 02:11:03,640
Speaker 1: it up with Say and Danny and Touring and Nina Turner.

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02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,880
Speaker 1: I would just adore the opportunity to have a chance

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02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,600
Speaker 1: just to pick your brain. So I hope all of

2541
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:11,960
Speaker 1: you follow me and give me a chance to um

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02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:14,440
Speaker 1: throw that invite out to you because I love to

2543
02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:26,200
Speaker 1: have you on my platform for fire conversation. Yeah, guys,

2544
02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:28,280
Speaker 1: and I hope you guys are enjoying, you know, this

2545
02:11:28,360 --> 02:11:31,040
Speaker 1: conversation with something you have said, Oh, the diversity centers,

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02:11:31,080 --> 02:11:32,600
Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to tap peek it back on.

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02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:36,080
Speaker 1: Sonny is absolutely right. They literally said it, and the

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02:11:36,360 --> 02:11:38,560
Speaker 1: it literally put it in print that all they need

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02:11:38,680 --> 02:11:40,640
Speaker 1: is a percentage or two. I want to speak to

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02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:43,760
Speaker 1: this because this was another misinformation. People running around just

2551
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:46,640
Speaker 1: saying stuff, just talking just to be talking. You'll hear

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02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:51,600
Speaker 1: people having a debate about population. Population has nothing to

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02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:56,000
Speaker 1: do with voters. They're not the same. No population a vote,

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02:11:57,240 --> 02:12:00,360
Speaker 1: not the white population, not the black population, not this

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02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:05,080
Speaker 1: spanning population. Do not allow population conversations with Stacy did

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02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 1: on eighty five sou or whether you know the black population. No,

2557
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about the black voter. It's totally different because

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02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 1: the hundred and we're talking about how many people actually

2559
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:16,080
Speaker 1: you have volks who are registered, and then you have

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02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:18,960
Speaker 1: folks that are super voters that actually vote and active

2561
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:21,200
Speaker 1: voters that may not be super voters but are willing

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02:12:21,200 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 1: to come to the post when you actually work on

2563
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 1: a campaign for real in real life, you'll understand and

2564
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:29,960
Speaker 1: systems what they call vand Voter Action network, how they

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02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 1: map those folks out and you only got a certain

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02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:34,480
Speaker 1: amount of time to try to reach voters, and there's

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02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:38,160
Speaker 1: money that you need. Gary, our brother Gary Chambers, really

2568
02:12:38,160 --> 02:12:40,320
Speaker 1: broke that down. Go to this Instagram because he talked

2569
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:42,800
Speaker 1: about the money he raised and how it costs about

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02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:44,840
Speaker 1: five dollars a vote, and people may not understand what

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02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:47,440
Speaker 1: that meant. What that men is the amount we you

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02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:50,000
Speaker 1: can literally calculate how much it is to reach a voter,

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02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:52,760
Speaker 1: you know, a mailer, a phone call, a phone bank ad,

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02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:56,120
Speaker 1: a text message and money. Isn't that So when Sunny

2575
02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:59,160
Speaker 1: is saying they don't invest in black voters, let's be

2576
02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:02,760
Speaker 1: very clear she actually those diversity centers she was talking about,

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02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:07,600
Speaker 1: they did over thirty centers just in Georgia alone, thirty

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02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:11,080
Speaker 1: of those diversity centers, and with Sunny centers, they just

2579
02:13:11,120 --> 02:13:13,520
Speaker 1: got their friends highed there and they're just reaching out

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02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:15,440
Speaker 1: and they they're just trying to get a percent or too,

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02:13:15,720 --> 02:13:17,800
Speaker 1: because they know that all they need is a percent

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02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:20,320
Speaker 1: or too. They did over thirty in Georgia and they

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02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:24,760
Speaker 1: did over twenty just to the Latino community. Again, over

2584
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:29,040
Speaker 1: twenty from the GOP went just to the Latino community.

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02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:32,240
Speaker 1: So the reason why you see the numbers higher on

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02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 1: the Latinos that voted for Stacy Abrams. Somebody came to

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02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:38,240
Speaker 1: me and said, yeah, but they're not a big use.

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02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:40,080
Speaker 1: I think they said they're just six percent of the population,

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02:13:40,120 --> 02:13:43,120
Speaker 1: So that don't matter. That's not significant. It is significant

2590
02:13:43,240 --> 02:13:49,920
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the voters, not the population and all, wait, wait, wait,

2591
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 1: all you need is one or two per cent of

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02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,560
Speaker 1: them to come and flip, and they can flip an

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02:13:56,720 --> 02:13:58,800
Speaker 1: entire thing. So I just wanted to speak to what

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02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:01,520
Speaker 1: uh Sunny said on the diversity set and I'll throw

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02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:04,320
Speaker 1: that back to whoever just you know, made a comment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to quickly say, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Georgia Latinos and the Georgia Latino based organization GALLEO did

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02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:14,600
Speaker 1: a study in talking about it, a large set of

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02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:17,920
Speaker 1: the Latinos don't identify as anything. Sixty percent of them

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02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:20,520
Speaker 1: identify as unknown when it comes to the census and

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02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:23,760
Speaker 1: voter registration. So whereas you saw that percentage that came

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02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:26,360
Speaker 1: out and voted for war Knock and folks said, that's

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02:14:26,360 --> 02:14:29,360
Speaker 1: the Latino vote you can also account for, and I

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02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:31,400
Speaker 1: think it was an additional six hundred I don't have

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02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:33,800
Speaker 1: my numbers in front of me, but about six hundred

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02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:36,440
Speaker 1: k unknown voters that voted in that election, you can

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02:14:36,520 --> 02:14:42,360
Speaker 1: probably say about fifty to fifty of that uh block

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02:14:42,800 --> 02:14:44,920
Speaker 1: is Latino voters. So just wanted to add that out,

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02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:47,880
Speaker 1: that that number is much higher than what's reported because

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02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:54,000
Speaker 1: they do not historically report as Latino to their advantage,

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02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:01,760
Speaker 1: and they consistently vote down the It'll not ask again,

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02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:04,640
Speaker 1: not even just Georgia, just in general. You can see

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02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:07,879
Speaker 1: that um on what happened with the Bernie Sanders campaign.

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02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:13,800
Speaker 1: Latinos in Florida absolutely went against Bernie Sanders lean more conservative,

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02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:17,720
Speaker 1: more moderate, and Latinos in California went Bernie Sanders and

2616
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:21,320
Speaker 1: that's one of the strongest states that he has. So again,

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02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:24,920
Speaker 1: when when people talk about the Latino community, it's always, oh,

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02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:28,040
Speaker 1: they're very strategic with their vote. In fact, President Joe

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02:15:28,080 --> 02:15:30,920
Speaker 1: Biden at the beginning of the year told black leaders

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Speaker 1: that you need to follow the Latinos. Let me say

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02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:35,240
Speaker 1: it again. If you don't believe it, god google the

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02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:41,080
Speaker 1: Biden mixed leak takes with you. I was to be

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02:15:41,120 --> 02:15:42,480
Speaker 1: on that, but I didn't go, but I watched it

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02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:45,280
Speaker 1: and that was the thing he said, flat out, you

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02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:47,480
Speaker 1: need to go follow the Latino community. And guess what,

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02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 1: President Biden and black people follow the Latino community, you

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02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:52,720
Speaker 1: would have got your ass handed to you because the

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02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:55,120
Speaker 1: Latinos left your ass at the door. So let's just

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02:15:55,160 --> 02:15:57,440
Speaker 1: make sure we put that on out there so when

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Speaker 1: we're having their conversation. Very strategic, and that's why the

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02:16:00,600 --> 02:16:03,440
Speaker 1: investment is made. That's why the GOP did do twenty

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02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:06,280
Speaker 1: centers opposed to thirty. But what Sunny is saying is

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02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:09,120
Speaker 1: even that was some bullshit because she's always pushing on

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02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:11,640
Speaker 1: the conservative side that you need to do more and

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02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:14,040
Speaker 1: you need to be serious about your outreach. So the

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02:16:14,040 --> 02:16:16,240
Speaker 1: purpose of this guy says, I'm wanting you to hear

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02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:19,960
Speaker 1: from different people who have actually worked on these campaigns

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02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:22,800
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, to hopefully give y'all a little bit more,

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02:16:23,120 --> 02:16:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, more meat on the bone and something to

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02:16:25,480 --> 02:16:27,680
Speaker 1: take with you as you're having these conversations, because you

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02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:30,360
Speaker 1: don't have to just attach to what the easiest argument is,

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02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:32,480
Speaker 1: which is they just didn't vote for her because she's

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02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:34,760
Speaker 1: a woman, or Sacy just didn't reach out the black

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02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:37,000
Speaker 1: people enough, or she just didn't you do enough for

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02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:39,480
Speaker 1: black people. Use the argument that she didn't talk to

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02:16:39,520 --> 02:16:41,640
Speaker 1: black people in the rural communities. If you want to

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02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:43,520
Speaker 1: say that they didn't want to put a black black

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02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:45,720
Speaker 1: woman in office, well that's not true because the same

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02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:47,920
Speaker 1: people voted for her, uh the first time when it

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02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:51,040
Speaker 1: was an open seat. So you can say, well, maybe

2651
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:54,640
Speaker 1: they could have did better on their outreach outside of Atlanta,

2652
02:16:54,959 --> 02:16:56,680
Speaker 1: but we can steal. Two things can be true at

2653
02:16:56,680 --> 02:16:59,280
Speaker 1: the same time. There can be misogyny as well. So

2654
02:16:59,800 --> 02:17:02,200
Speaker 1: but also if you're gonna do that, I need you

2655
02:17:02,240 --> 02:17:04,320
Speaker 1: to be black first and understand that race is always

2656
02:17:04,320 --> 02:17:07,959
Speaker 1: gonna try misogyny. That's why there's no black female governor period,

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02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:10,920
Speaker 1: not just in Georgia. She can be your favorite candidate

2658
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:13,360
Speaker 1: at this moment in time, but I'm always gonna speak

2659
02:17:13,800 --> 02:17:17,440
Speaker 1: on an overview, you know, a broader conversation, and the

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02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:19,560
Speaker 1: conversation is if you're gonna push the line that they

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02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:22,280
Speaker 1: don't want to elect a black female governor, then ask

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02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:26,160
Speaker 1: the question, why do we not have a black governor anywhere?

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02:17:27,720 --> 02:17:29,480
Speaker 1: I want to chime in real quick to pick a

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02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,160
Speaker 1: back up voice, and he was saying, you know, I

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02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:33,440
Speaker 1: got some insight baseball on that too, especially during the

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02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:38,000
Speaker 1: national elections, for they had those centers and black and

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02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:41,120
Speaker 1: black areas across the country. But from what I heard,

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02:17:41,720 --> 02:17:43,800
Speaker 1: it was it was a mess. It was a whole mess.

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02:17:44,120 --> 02:17:46,600
Speaker 1: They could barely get support from the r n C.

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02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:49,320
Speaker 1: It was like pulling teeth. The black people that worked

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02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:51,720
Speaker 1: in the r n C, that were that were responsible

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02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:55,360
Speaker 1: for rolling this out and facilitating it and supporting it,

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02:17:55,360 --> 02:17:57,760
Speaker 1: it was like pulling teeth to get support from them.

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02:17:57,879 --> 02:18:01,080
Speaker 1: We have a serious gate keeping them when it comes

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02:18:01,120 --> 02:18:04,600
Speaker 1: to black conservatives in the RNC, because they don't want

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02:18:04,600 --> 02:18:06,680
Speaker 1: to see other black paces rise up. They don't want

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02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:09,119
Speaker 1: to They don't want to lose their position or risk

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02:18:09,160 --> 02:18:11,760
Speaker 1: losing their position. They don't want to scare their their

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02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:16,039
Speaker 1: quote unquote power. But on the other hand, when it

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02:18:16,120 --> 02:18:20,120
Speaker 1: came came to the Latino groups, the Latino headquarters in

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02:18:20,200 --> 02:18:23,600
Speaker 1: different areas of the country, it ran like clockwork. It

2682
02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:27,160
Speaker 1: was a well oiled machine, whereas on the black end

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02:18:27,480 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 1: it was in shambles because they just didn't take it seriously.

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02:18:30,600 --> 02:18:33,160
Speaker 1: And the upper leadership of the Republican Party either knew

2685
02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:35,760
Speaker 1: about it and then didn't care or they didn't know

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02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:38,800
Speaker 1: about it because these black people behind the scenes who

2687
02:18:38,800 --> 02:18:42,560
Speaker 1: were responsible for facilitating it weren't really putting much effort

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02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:46,360
Speaker 1: into it. So that's basically how how seriously these people

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02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:50,000
Speaker 1: take reaching out to the black community. So I'll just

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02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:52,960
Speaker 1: leave it there. Um just quickly, I want to shout

2691
02:18:52,959 --> 02:18:55,039
Speaker 1: out to the YouTube family is listening. I want to

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02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:58,080
Speaker 1: respond to a comment that was just made. And this

2693
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:01,080
Speaker 1: is no offense, but I just listen second, bequease of

2694
02:19:01,240 --> 02:19:03,440
Speaker 1: the comment on chat because I need you to understand

2695
02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:06,080
Speaker 1: political language that I'm speaking of so that you can

2696
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:08,760
Speaker 1: take the talking points with you. The comment was made

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02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:12,400
Speaker 1: Tesla Latinos are not strategic. They're divided by nationality. Cuba

2698
02:19:12,400 --> 02:19:16,320
Speaker 1: was in Florida, in Mexico. Guess what that's called strategy

2699
02:19:16,520 --> 02:19:19,600
Speaker 1: in the political operative space. I need you to understand

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02:19:19,600 --> 02:19:25,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the strategy, because when you're divided, that

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02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:28,039
Speaker 1: means they have to recruit you. If I you don't,

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02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:29,959
Speaker 1: let me give it to y'all language you understand. If

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02:19:29,959 --> 02:19:31,520
Speaker 1: it's a woman, you say she for the streets, she

2704
02:19:31,640 --> 02:19:33,920
Speaker 1: just gonna talk to any man dat any man do whatever,

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02:19:34,040 --> 02:19:36,199
Speaker 1: and all the men want to get at her. Each

2706
02:19:36,200 --> 02:19:38,320
Speaker 1: person has to bring her a gift that gets bigger

2707
02:19:38,360 --> 02:19:40,840
Speaker 1: and bigger and bigger until she decides who she wants

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02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:44,240
Speaker 1: to be with. That's what I mean with strategy. When

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02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:48,280
Speaker 1: you have a black people voting one way Democrat, they

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02:19:48,320 --> 02:19:52,440
Speaker 1: do not have to earn our vote. When I say strategy,

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02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:56,600
Speaker 1: when you are divided down the mental, it forces people

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02:19:56,640 --> 02:20:00,160
Speaker 1: to court you. That is called strategy. So may you

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02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:02,279
Speaker 1: didn't understand what I meant, but I wanted to clarify

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02:20:02,360 --> 02:20:05,560
Speaker 1: that you also said the Latinos and anti black. Hello,

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02:20:05,640 --> 02:20:08,560
Speaker 1: my name is Tesla Figaro. I have called out this

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02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:12,320
Speaker 1: progressive movement and every other movement for Latinos being anti

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02:20:12,360 --> 02:20:14,160
Speaker 1: black so much to the point that I did a

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02:20:14,240 --> 02:20:16,000
Speaker 1: lawsuit about it. So you don't have to tell me

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02:20:16,040 --> 02:20:19,240
Speaker 1: about Latino's being anti black and always trying to be

2720
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:22,840
Speaker 1: in position over black people. For those in the room

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02:20:22,879 --> 02:20:24,600
Speaker 1: that say, well, Tess, and you said you had Latino

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02:20:24,640 --> 02:20:27,640
Speaker 1: and your bloodline too, yes I do. I'm from Louisiana,

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02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:30,959
Speaker 1: Figaro as Creole is Latino black spans all of that.

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02:20:31,040 --> 02:20:33,360
Speaker 1: But guess what I am black first, always have been,

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02:20:33,440 --> 02:20:37,000
Speaker 1: always will be. To another comment that said Latinos are

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02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:40,760
Speaker 1: famous for voting against their interests. Listen, I'm not talking

2727
02:20:40,760 --> 02:20:43,640
Speaker 1: about them voting against their interests. What I'm telling you

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02:20:44,120 --> 02:20:48,320
Speaker 1: is they are the the new golden child for the

2729
02:20:48,400 --> 02:20:52,200
Speaker 1: Democrat Party. It's what your president said. So you don't

2730
02:20:52,200 --> 02:20:54,560
Speaker 1: have to argue with me and the YouTube comments about

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02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:57,440
Speaker 1: how they are strategic, because the President of the United

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02:20:57,480 --> 02:20:59,880
Speaker 1: States said, y'all need to follow them and do what

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02:21:00,040 --> 02:21:04,240
Speaker 1: they say do and they have. The Democrats have consistently

2734
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:07,000
Speaker 1: tried to make sure that they deliver policies and their

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02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:10,520
Speaker 1: strategic is hell. In fact, in Texas for many people

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Speaker 1: even along the border voted Republican because they're so damned strategic.

2737
02:21:16,360 --> 02:21:18,160
Speaker 1: We're saying you're gonna have to court us every year.

2738
02:21:18,240 --> 02:21:20,200
Speaker 1: You don't know which way we're gonna go. So that's

2739
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:22,360
Speaker 1: what I mean when I say strategic. So it's kind

2740
02:21:22,360 --> 02:21:25,080
Speaker 1: of better to ask questions instead of making statements because

2741
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:26,600
Speaker 1: I want to give y'all. I want to give you

2742
02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:29,280
Speaker 1: information so you can have the argument. I know the

2743
02:21:29,320 --> 02:21:31,640
Speaker 1: I know the position you're trying to push, which is

2744
02:21:31,959 --> 02:21:34,520
Speaker 1: anti black. They ain't strategic, but it's strategic when you're

2745
02:21:34,520 --> 02:21:36,960
Speaker 1: fifty fifty anytime. I don't know if you're gonna come

2746
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:38,920
Speaker 1: home at night. That's called strategy because that means I'm

2747
02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna look better, I'm gonna do better, i'mna have better sex.

2748
02:21:41,200 --> 02:21:42,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I need to do something to get them to

2749
02:21:42,520 --> 02:21:45,720
Speaker 1: come home. That's strategy if you understand it in simple terms,

2750
02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:48,279
Speaker 1: if you know that I'm gonna always be the mistress,

2751
02:21:48,280 --> 02:21:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna always be the side check. And every time

2752
02:21:50,680 --> 02:21:52,040
Speaker 1: you come to my house, i'm gonna say, I'm not

2753
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna open up this door. I'm tired of you coming.

2754
02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:57,119
Speaker 1: At two am in the morning, I see her open

2755
02:21:57,200 --> 02:21:59,600
Speaker 1: up the door, and every week I'm opening up the door.

2756
02:21:59,760 --> 02:22:01,480
Speaker 1: It's the last time I'm opening up the door, and

2757
02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:03,400
Speaker 1: I open it up again, and I open it up again.

2758
02:22:03,560 --> 02:22:05,440
Speaker 1: There ain't nothing strategic about that, because you know I'm

2759
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:07,400
Speaker 1: opening up the door. But the moment you're coming, I

2760
02:22:07,480 --> 02:22:09,760
Speaker 1: decided to leave your ass stand on that porch. That's

2761
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:11,840
Speaker 1: called strategy. Even women do that. Let me put on

2762
02:22:11,879 --> 02:22:13,960
Speaker 1: my dress, let me go out, Let me post a

2763
02:22:13,959 --> 02:22:15,880
Speaker 1: couple of pictures on Instagrams, and he can notice. Ain't

2764
02:22:15,920 --> 02:22:18,720
Speaker 1: no game. That's strategy. Women ain't leaving a man. They

2765
02:22:18,760 --> 02:22:20,200
Speaker 1: just want to post that picture so you can see

2766
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:22,000
Speaker 1: I ain't playing with you. I'm about to get these streets.

2767
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:24,000
Speaker 1: So I gave y'all an analogy that maybe some of

2768
02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:26,600
Speaker 1: y'all can understand when I say strategy and black people

2769
02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:28,840
Speaker 1: need to do better with that with happening. Strategy has

2770
02:22:28,879 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the teno's being anti black. I

2771
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:34,800
Speaker 1: know they're anti black. I'm talking about strategy. That's part

2772
02:22:34,840 --> 02:22:36,920
Speaker 1: of the primary reason why I was saying, you know,

2773
02:22:37,160 --> 02:22:40,640
Speaker 1: as a the libertarian movement. For me, I didnifyed as

2774
02:22:40,640 --> 02:22:46,279
Speaker 1: a libertarian and libertarians being being the third largest political party.

2775
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:49,840
Speaker 1: It's primarily about there needs to be competition in the

2776
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:53,120
Speaker 1: political marketplace. If the red and blue know that we

2777
02:22:53,160 --> 02:22:55,760
Speaker 1: can just fight over each other, I know, y'all get

2778
02:22:55,840 --> 02:22:58,600
Speaker 1: ninety percented clip on the blacks, all right, we're gonna

2779
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:01,840
Speaker 1: start courting up the Latino vote. We're gonna do X,

2780
02:23:01,959 --> 02:23:05,080
Speaker 1: Y and Z. If black people don't make all of

2781
02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:07,680
Speaker 1: these parties by spreading it out, and that's where that

2782
02:23:07,760 --> 02:23:10,120
Speaker 1: propaganda of oh, they're still in a vote. If you

2783
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:12,720
Speaker 1: vote for the libertarian, you just know you have to

2784
02:23:12,879 --> 02:23:16,320
Speaker 1: do more to earn this period and if we can

2785
02:23:16,360 --> 02:23:20,280
Speaker 1: align with a political party or or again independent because

2786
02:23:20,320 --> 02:23:22,240
Speaker 1: that means again I got more options and you know

2787
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:26,480
Speaker 1: him again to to you know, to Tesla's perspective or analogy.

2788
02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:28,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'm out here. You got to court this.

2789
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:32,280
Speaker 1: There's no I've never seen another group of people that

2790
02:23:32,320 --> 02:23:35,680
Speaker 1: don't understand that you have to earn the job. The

2791
02:23:35,800 --> 02:23:38,080
Speaker 1: job that you say you want is this public servant.

2792
02:23:38,440 --> 02:23:46,359
Speaker 1: You're here to serve me. Politics by definition is the uh, maintenance, creation, securing, maintenance,

2793
02:23:46,360 --> 02:23:49,680
Speaker 1: and expansion of your interests. And as a block, we

2794
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:54,680
Speaker 1: are just giving our vote with no support maintenance, expansion,

2795
02:23:54,800 --> 02:23:57,640
Speaker 1: or creation or securing of our interests. And these are

2796
02:23:57,640 --> 02:24:01,960
Speaker 1: the politics that moves the world's recent going to black

2797
02:24:01,959 --> 02:24:05,720
Speaker 1: people just looking into the libertarian party or even the ideology,

2798
02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:08,000
Speaker 1: because if you don't like the ideology, you shouldn't join

2799
02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:10,400
Speaker 1: the party. But if you do decided join that party,

2800
02:24:10,840 --> 02:24:13,800
Speaker 1: it's primarily because we do not have the baggage as

2801
02:24:13,840 --> 02:24:18,680
Speaker 1: well as folks from that doopoli need to see if

2802
02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:21,600
Speaker 1: there's an extra ten million black folks that went libertarian

2803
02:24:21,680 --> 02:24:25,400
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, Oh they put they they dressing they

2804
02:24:25,480 --> 02:24:28,080
Speaker 1: going out more and they're dressing up more. What can

2805
02:24:28,120 --> 02:24:30,560
Speaker 1: we do for them? That's a that was a perfect

2806
02:24:30,560 --> 02:24:33,400
Speaker 1: analogy that you gave. I just wanted to chime in

2807
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:36,840
Speaker 1: on that real quick and I'll conceive my time. Yeah,

2808
02:24:36,959 --> 02:24:40,080
Speaker 1: and and thank you somebody in the comments, because thank

2809
02:24:40,120 --> 02:24:44,039
Speaker 1: you so much for um correcting me Lawrence Wilder was

2810
02:24:44,120 --> 02:24:48,680
Speaker 1: the first uh black governor of Virginia. So thank you

2811
02:24:48,800 --> 02:24:50,680
Speaker 1: for that correction, because we want to give effects here.

2812
02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:53,600
Speaker 1: We don't we get enough lies in Twitter space. UM,

2813
02:24:53,640 --> 02:24:55,879
Speaker 1: So thank you for whoever that was they gave that

2814
02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:57,680
Speaker 1: comment to correct me on that. When I was referring

2815
02:24:57,720 --> 02:24:59,840
Speaker 1: to I must have said he was the first, uh

2816
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,920
Speaker 1: that we just selected the first black governor, but he

2817
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:08,000
Speaker 1: was the first black governor of Maryland. Maryland. Yeah, yes, yes, ma'am.

2818
02:25:08,040 --> 02:25:11,200
Speaker 1: And so I yes, yes, ma'am. But I wanted to

2819
02:25:11,200 --> 02:25:12,720
Speaker 1: make sure it's clear because people and I didn't know

2820
02:25:12,720 --> 02:25:16,920
Speaker 1: nobody running saying that I was misinformation. Um. But but

2821
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:19,760
Speaker 1: when we when we talk about strat and I just

2822
02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:21,560
Speaker 1: to your point on you know, we need to get

2823
02:25:21,560 --> 02:25:24,039
Speaker 1: behind a party, and when we say we, I'm always

2824
02:25:24,080 --> 02:25:26,320
Speaker 1: pointing out, you know, not everybody you know we we

2825
02:25:26,440 --> 02:25:29,000
Speaker 1: definitely I know your point what you're saying, uh Tory,

2826
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:30,840
Speaker 1: that we need to what we need more people on

2827
02:25:30,879 --> 02:25:32,760
Speaker 1: the Libertarian I don't. I'm not a fan of party

2828
02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:36,080
Speaker 1: politics for me personally, because what I find what that is,

2829
02:25:36,360 --> 02:25:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, anytime you're at a party, you agree, you know,

2830
02:25:38,640 --> 02:25:40,920
Speaker 1: to an agenda, and you may not agree with everything

2831
02:25:40,920 --> 02:25:43,400
Speaker 1: on that agenda agenda, but you agree with most of it.

2832
02:25:43,640 --> 02:25:46,720
Speaker 1: And so I am always about we need independence as well,

2833
02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:49,760
Speaker 1: because what I find is when people line up behind

2834
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:52,480
Speaker 1: party politics, we start to see the same thing over

2835
02:25:52,480 --> 02:25:54,920
Speaker 1: and over where it becomes, you know, a big tent,

2836
02:25:55,160 --> 02:25:57,600
Speaker 1: and some issues are not heard. And so I like

2837
02:25:57,680 --> 02:25:59,440
Speaker 1: being in the position of you don't know where I'm

2838
02:25:59,480 --> 02:26:01,200
Speaker 1: gonna be on my date you this week. I may not,

2839
02:26:01,320 --> 02:26:03,480
Speaker 1: I may go on for five days, I may got

2840
02:26:03,480 --> 02:26:05,680
Speaker 1: to three. Husband, that that works for me because I

2841
02:26:05,680 --> 02:26:08,000
Speaker 1: want you to constantly be recruiting me at all times.

2842
02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:11,920
Speaker 1: But we do need more people's libertarians, Progressives, Democrats, republican

2843
02:26:12,120 --> 02:26:14,160
Speaker 1: and in these party systems because it's the only way

2844
02:26:14,200 --> 02:26:17,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna get somewhere. Another reason why it's so important,

2845
02:26:17,440 --> 02:26:19,560
Speaker 1: um that we have people in different places. It's just

2846
02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:22,560
Speaker 1: like on this space, you literally have every ideology and

2847
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:25,920
Speaker 1: party representative, and that is what they fear. Wouldn't fear

2848
02:26:25,959 --> 02:26:28,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of conservatives talking about conservatives that don't fear

2849
02:26:28,840 --> 02:26:31,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of Democrats talking about democrats. What they fear

2850
02:26:31,480 --> 02:26:34,520
Speaker 1: is when we have different ideologies. So what I see

2851
02:26:34,520 --> 02:26:36,800
Speaker 1: in these Twitter spaces a lot, which is why I'm

2852
02:26:36,840 --> 02:26:39,920
Speaker 1: falling back a whole lot after this week, is everybody

2853
02:26:39,920 --> 02:26:42,560
Speaker 1: want to be in an echo chamber only talking to themselves.

2854
02:26:42,879 --> 02:26:45,880
Speaker 1: And that is not fear. You and all of y'all

2855
02:26:45,879 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 1: talking about the same thing. It's not fair. It's not fear.

2856
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:52,039
Speaker 1: The gang banging in the gang bang world is and nobody.

2857
02:26:52,120 --> 02:26:53,520
Speaker 1: You can be the hardest in the world as long

2858
02:26:53,560 --> 02:26:55,320
Speaker 1: as you stay in your own hood, But when you

2859
02:26:55,360 --> 02:26:57,720
Speaker 1: go over to somebody else's hood and you start banging

2860
02:26:57,720 --> 02:27:00,240
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, now you're the tough guy. Anybody it can

2861
02:27:00,240 --> 02:27:02,080
Speaker 1: be the tough gal, and they block surrounded by their

2862
02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:04,600
Speaker 1: own people. That's that's why I go to Fox News.

2863
02:27:04,720 --> 02:27:07,920
Speaker 1: Anybody can be on MSNBC and CNN and talk to

2864
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:12,440
Speaker 1: their own crowd and yes, girl, yes, yes, tell them girl.

2865
02:27:12,760 --> 02:27:14,280
Speaker 1: But when you go over there and you sit up

2866
02:27:14,280 --> 02:27:16,720
Speaker 1: there on Fox News and getting that heat and getting

2867
02:27:16,720 --> 02:27:18,360
Speaker 1: that too many heat, and you gotta hold it down.

2868
02:27:18,360 --> 02:27:21,039
Speaker 1: For black people, it's a totally different conversation, So we

2869
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:24,440
Speaker 1: need to have people in different places outside of Twitter spaces,

2870
02:27:24,440 --> 02:27:26,240
Speaker 1: but shout out to Twitter space because this is also

2871
02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:29,920
Speaker 1: an important place too to be able to have this conversation.

2872
02:27:29,959 --> 02:27:31,879
Speaker 1: I'll yield to Mike Team, me, any other speaker, and

2873
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:33,879
Speaker 1: if not, UM, guys that don't want to hold you

2874
02:27:33,879 --> 02:27:36,840
Speaker 1: too much longer, we can go ahead and wrap up UM.

2875
02:27:36,879 --> 02:27:39,120
Speaker 1: For those that want to give comment, I will open

2876
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:42,840
Speaker 1: up a space immediately after this UM and and so

2877
02:27:42,879 --> 02:27:44,959
Speaker 1: that folks can get into because I have a lot

2878
02:27:44,959 --> 02:27:47,720
Speaker 1: of people that requested but I did this was not

2879
02:27:47,959 --> 02:27:50,600
Speaker 1: because again there's a lot of Twitter trolls, and what

2880
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:52,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna do is have people coming up controlling

2881
02:27:53,240 --> 02:27:55,920
Speaker 1: UM the panelists. But I will definitely open up the

2882
02:27:55,920 --> 02:27:58,560
Speaker 1: space immediately after this for those of you who have

2883
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:01,360
Speaker 1: been listening and want to give some insight. UM, I

2884
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:02,680
Speaker 1: do want to hear what you have to say, but

2885
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:04,600
Speaker 1: I didn't want people troll And I know a lot

2886
02:28:04,640 --> 02:28:06,920
Speaker 1: of y'all go by these names Chicken Wings, you know,

2887
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:10,240
Speaker 1: five folds, Pepper, hide your names and hid your faces,

2888
02:28:10,240 --> 02:28:12,520
Speaker 1: and I don't know who's who, and so I wanted

2889
02:28:12,560 --> 02:28:14,480
Speaker 1: to make sure that the people that you heard from

2890
02:28:14,480 --> 02:28:16,480
Speaker 1: the night you heard from them with their first and

2891
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:19,240
Speaker 1: last name and their receipts actually in this work. And

2892
02:28:19,280 --> 02:28:21,320
Speaker 1: then after that I will allow you know, I will

2893
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:23,400
Speaker 1: do another space where you guys can tell me, you

2894
02:28:23,400 --> 02:28:25,200
Speaker 1: know how, you know what you're talking about, even though

2895
02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:26,959
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna tell me your name. You're just gonna

2896
02:28:26,959 --> 02:28:29,080
Speaker 1: go buy chicken wing and a pepper and you're gonna

2897
02:28:29,080 --> 02:28:31,720
Speaker 1: tell us how we got it all wrong and what campaign.

2898
02:28:32,600 --> 02:28:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't wonder about that, don't dock. I don't want to.

2899
02:28:36,320 --> 02:28:38,800
Speaker 1: So this particular Twitter space was for those willing to

2900
02:28:38,840 --> 02:28:41,720
Speaker 1: be docks. This was the dock Twitter space we docked

2901
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:43,800
Speaker 1: over here. Then after that, well, I'll talk to the

2902
02:28:43,879 --> 02:28:46,760
Speaker 1: undocked because it matters to your voice matter too, But

2903
02:28:46,840 --> 02:28:48,959
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that that was clear

2904
02:28:49,400 --> 02:28:56,800
Speaker 1: to speak what I wouldn't to say. I mean, this

2905
02:28:56,840 --> 02:29:00,840
Speaker 1: has been, uh, it's been from this to be in

2906
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:03,800
Speaker 1: this space tonight, and I just want to commend you

2907
02:29:04,480 --> 02:29:07,600
Speaker 1: a shout out to the one in old Mouth Pope

2908
02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:10,640
Speaker 1: figural in the house, and I think we should send

2909
02:29:10,640 --> 02:29:12,760
Speaker 1: her some love, some hearts who are doing this and

2910
02:29:12,800 --> 02:29:15,680
Speaker 1: bringing us all together, and I just hope that we

2911
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:17,920
Speaker 1: all connected, you know, there's a saying that the two

2912
02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:20,600
Speaker 1: people always agree one is not needed, and we need

2913
02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:24,160
Speaker 1: to understand that. Secondly, as Black people, we should not

2914
02:29:24,240 --> 02:29:27,360
Speaker 1: let anybody steal our autonomy. Black women have a ton

2915
02:29:27,400 --> 02:29:28,959
Speaker 1: of me, Black men have a ton of me. I

2916
02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:31,560
Speaker 1: love how figural said black me and ain't nobody's children,

2917
02:29:32,040 --> 02:29:34,200
Speaker 1: And that same thing goes for black women when ain't

2918
02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:37,280
Speaker 1: nobody's children and all we are the prototype. So if

2919
02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:39,160
Speaker 1: you are black, you need to wake up every morning,

2920
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:41,360
Speaker 1: look at the mirror and say, I am the goddamn prototype.

2921
02:29:41,400 --> 02:29:44,200
Speaker 1: You are that. That doesn't make us perfect, but we

2922
02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:47,600
Speaker 1: are the prototype, and we need to utilize the power

2923
02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:50,120
Speaker 1: that we have, the talent that we have, the brilliant

2924
02:29:50,200 --> 02:29:52,080
Speaker 1: the beauty that we have, and even the flaws that

2925
02:29:52,120 --> 02:29:56,039
Speaker 1: we have to garner something to gain something for our people.

2926
02:29:57,080 --> 02:29:59,760
Speaker 1: We operate as human beings from the past, the present,

2927
02:29:59,800 --> 02:30:03,320
Speaker 1: and the future. And I'd be damned if our ancestors

2928
02:30:03,360 --> 02:30:06,200
Speaker 1: who sacrificed it on for us to be able to

2929
02:30:06,200 --> 02:30:08,800
Speaker 1: be in a damn twitter space and this is what

2930
02:30:09,200 --> 02:30:12,760
Speaker 1: they get. This is the the omige that we pay

2931
02:30:12,800 --> 02:30:15,640
Speaker 1: for the lives that they lived and the sacrifice collectively

2932
02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:19,080
Speaker 1: that they made and then for our children and our

2933
02:30:19,160 --> 02:30:21,959
Speaker 1: children's children. What are we leaving to them. We cannot

2934
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:25,800
Speaker 1: be a rollover people, and we should not allow any body.

2935
02:30:25,879 --> 02:30:28,360
Speaker 1: And I don't care. See, I don't worship a political party.

2936
02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:30,920
Speaker 1: And and shout out to all the speakers who made

2937
02:30:30,959 --> 02:30:32,720
Speaker 1: that note about all these parties. They want you to

2938
02:30:32,760 --> 02:30:35,119
Speaker 1: worship them, but that's one of the reasons why they

2939
02:30:35,160 --> 02:30:37,320
Speaker 1: came hard at me and figure all, Notice, I don't

2940
02:30:37,320 --> 02:30:40,560
Speaker 1: worship you. I worship God. I serve people, and none

2941
02:30:40,560 --> 02:30:43,320
Speaker 1: of these parties are worth worshiping them. You can be loyal,

2942
02:30:43,360 --> 02:30:45,720
Speaker 1: but God, I mean, Lord, let me not get the cousin.

2943
02:30:46,000 --> 02:30:48,920
Speaker 1: You don't have to be blindly loyal. I mean, there's

2944
02:30:48,920 --> 02:30:51,760
Speaker 1: a difference between being loyal and just being a cheap

2945
02:30:51,920 --> 02:30:54,480
Speaker 1: led to the slaughter. You know the reason why this

2946
02:30:54,640 --> 02:30:58,480
Speaker 1: current president said on Charlotta Maagne, Brother Charlottaagne show that

2947
02:30:58,600 --> 02:31:01,280
Speaker 1: if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. He

2948
02:31:01,480 --> 02:31:04,720
Speaker 1: meant that ship, he meant it, and for all the

2949
02:31:04,720 --> 02:31:07,120
Speaker 1: people wanted to explain in a way, it's a mentality.

2950
02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm using that as an example, not just towards Biden,

2951
02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:15,840
Speaker 1: but that is a mentality that the Democratic Party in particular,

2952
02:31:15,920 --> 02:31:19,240
Speaker 1: not exclusively but in particular has and then when you

2953
02:31:19,280 --> 02:31:24,400
Speaker 1: got to talking heads saying that black men, you know,

2954
02:31:24,480 --> 02:31:28,600
Speaker 1: not just abrons, but that black men ain't following black women,

2955
02:31:28,800 --> 02:31:30,640
Speaker 1: to me, that sounds a whole lot like shut up

2956
02:31:30,640 --> 02:31:33,160
Speaker 1: and drive, you know, just shut the hell up and

2957
02:31:33,200 --> 02:31:38,040
Speaker 1: just go along to get along, just because the Republican Party,

2958
02:31:38,280 --> 02:31:43,920
Speaker 1: today's Republican Party outwardly is worse policy wise, in many

2959
02:31:43,959 --> 02:31:48,080
Speaker 1: cases worse. Sunny addressed that straight up, just white big

2960
02:31:48,080 --> 02:31:51,360
Speaker 1: and try. There was a whole last video about supremacy

2961
02:31:51,480 --> 02:31:54,600
Speaker 1: or racism against white people. Let me explain this to

2962
02:31:54,640 --> 02:31:59,360
Speaker 1: the people in the back. In America, black people cannot

2963
02:31:59,640 --> 02:32:03,640
Speaker 1: be racist, understand. Come on, let's let's have a classroom

2964
02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:07,119
Speaker 1: lecture on that the next time we get together. Black

2965
02:32:07,160 --> 02:32:14,599
Speaker 1: people do not control the political, economic, social levers of power. Racism.

2966
02:32:14,640 --> 02:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Systemic racism is about a power dynamic. It's not. Now

2967
02:32:19,680 --> 02:32:22,320
Speaker 1: that don't mean that black people came from biased can't

2968
02:32:22,360 --> 02:32:24,920
Speaker 1: be bigoted, No, But when you want to talk about

2969
02:32:24,920 --> 02:32:29,640
Speaker 1: systemic racism, it is an impossibility in America that black

2970
02:32:29,640 --> 02:32:31,760
Speaker 1: people can't be racist. So they can miss me with

2971
02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:34,879
Speaker 1: that BS and that they create a damn video, the

2972
02:32:34,920 --> 02:32:40,119
Speaker 1: whole video tomboy the Democratic Party is racist against white people.

2973
02:32:40,280 --> 02:32:43,200
Speaker 1: What in the hell it is not a reality. I

2974
02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:45,520
Speaker 1: want to recommend a book How to Be Less Stupid

2975
02:32:45,520 --> 02:32:49,160
Speaker 1: About Race, written by Dr Fleming, Crystal Fleming. Y'all need

2976
02:32:49,160 --> 02:32:51,000
Speaker 1: to gonna pick up a copy of that book and

2977
02:32:51,160 --> 02:32:53,280
Speaker 1: understand this stuff. I love figure out how you letting

2978
02:32:53,320 --> 02:32:55,680
Speaker 1: people know. Let me educate you on some stuff because

2979
02:32:55,720 --> 02:32:58,200
Speaker 1: we all every day that you live, there's something more

2980
02:32:58,280 --> 02:33:01,880
Speaker 1: than we all can learn, even myself. And so I'm

2981
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:04,560
Speaker 1: just um loving on this figure. Please keep doing this,

2982
02:33:04,680 --> 02:33:07,920
Speaker 1: keep pushing. I'm so sorry that our brother Michael couldn't

2983
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:10,520
Speaker 1: be up in here. Look, don't let these folks divide

2984
02:33:10,560 --> 02:33:12,840
Speaker 1: us black men and black women. Now we want to

2985
02:33:12,879 --> 02:33:16,160
Speaker 1: fight it out at the barbecue, then, got damnit, we

2986
02:33:16,320 --> 02:33:18,160
Speaker 1: fight it out on the barbecue. But what we're not

2987
02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:22,600
Speaker 1: about to do is let Democrats, Republicans, libertare and black

2988
02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:27,120
Speaker 1: people a white people, purple people, blue people know. People

2989
02:33:27,120 --> 02:33:30,000
Speaker 1: should be able to separate us from each other on

2990
02:33:30,200 --> 02:33:33,640
Speaker 1: issues of consequence. And the Christian Bible says, what's your

2991
02:33:33,760 --> 02:33:35,920
Speaker 1: separate you from the love of God? And everybody in

2992
02:33:35,959 --> 02:33:38,520
Speaker 1: here ain't the revolutionary Christians? And that's all right too.

2993
02:33:38,560 --> 02:33:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm just using it as a point. We're picking up

2994
02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:45,000
Speaker 1: other people's bad habits. You had people like Abrams and

2995
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:48,720
Speaker 1: and and lands Bottoms and others. They brothers miss informed,

2996
02:33:48,879 --> 02:33:51,000
Speaker 1: use this example figure on the set this time and

2997
02:33:51,040 --> 02:33:54,119
Speaker 1: time again. They ain't stupid, and that if they didn't

2998
02:33:54,120 --> 02:33:56,480
Speaker 1: want to go the other way, if they right to

2999
02:33:56,560 --> 02:33:58,160
Speaker 1: go the other way, if they want to, we ain't

3000
02:33:58,160 --> 02:34:00,600
Speaker 1: got to agree. But definit maybe some of them didn't

3001
02:34:00,600 --> 02:34:03,000
Speaker 1: want to vote for kill. Maybe they really meant that.

3002
02:34:03,840 --> 02:34:07,640
Speaker 1: It's okay. Now I don't agree with Kim. I didn't

3003
02:34:07,640 --> 02:34:10,760
Speaker 1: want to see Kip win, but that's okay. Our auton

3004
02:34:10,879 --> 02:34:13,640
Speaker 1: of me. We free just in case that nobody told

3005
02:34:13,640 --> 02:34:17,520
Speaker 1: your matality tonight. We're free black people, so we can

3006
02:34:17,560 --> 02:34:19,520
Speaker 1: go and do whatever the hell we want to go

3007
02:34:19,680 --> 02:34:22,160
Speaker 1: and do. Don't let these people get us hemmed up

3008
02:34:22,160 --> 02:34:25,200
Speaker 1: like this. It is just very infuriating that we are

3009
02:34:25,240 --> 02:34:28,640
Speaker 1: complicit in our own damn demise. And then we got

3010
02:34:28,680 --> 02:34:33,440
Speaker 1: the bag people. I'm sick of begging people what somebody said.

3011
02:34:33,480 --> 02:34:35,480
Speaker 1: I forget to quote. Somebody help me out. You can't

3012
02:34:35,480 --> 02:34:39,800
Speaker 1: defeat the master with his own damn tools him heard that,

3013
02:34:40,040 --> 02:34:43,560
Speaker 1: keep care and all of them. So we have got

3014
02:34:43,640 --> 02:34:48,840
Speaker 1: to raise ourselves to a level of political maturity. And

3015
02:34:48,879 --> 02:34:51,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean we can't critique one another. Uh, we

3016
02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:55,199
Speaker 1: can't be in disagreement, but what we cannot and must

3017
02:34:55,200 --> 02:34:58,000
Speaker 1: not do is allowed that disagreement to come at the

3018
02:34:58,080 --> 02:35:01,400
Speaker 1: hands of other people because that's what they want. So

3019
02:35:01,560 --> 02:35:04,000
Speaker 1: loving you figure out back, you keep doing what you're doing.

3020
02:35:04,160 --> 02:35:06,920
Speaker 1: I look forward to joining the spaces again, Sunny, how

3021
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:09,600
Speaker 1: to follow? You gonna follow everybody on here? Oh the

3022
02:35:09,640 --> 02:35:13,040
Speaker 1: speakers anyway? Who following? Let's stay let's stay together. Yeah,

3023
02:35:13,120 --> 02:35:16,000
Speaker 1: let's let me get this received right quickly. So you

3024
02:35:16,000 --> 02:35:18,600
Speaker 1: want to talk about staying together just in case anybody

3025
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:21,160
Speaker 1: was ever confused. And again we'll do we'll at some

3026
02:35:21,160 --> 02:35:23,600
Speaker 1: point do a whole show about that. Ain't nobody divided

3027
02:35:23,760 --> 02:35:28,360
Speaker 1: no matter what I've been through and this progressive movement, Uh,

3028
02:35:28,760 --> 02:35:31,680
Speaker 1: the Senator need to turning out. We always been straight.

3029
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Let's just go ahead and put that on that there

3030
02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:36,320
Speaker 1: so that they came out. Everybody don't have to put

3031
02:35:36,360 --> 02:35:38,600
Speaker 1: everything on Twitter. And I'm saying that to people that

3032
02:35:38,640 --> 02:35:40,600
Speaker 1: be in this Twitter space, they'll be sitting up for

3033
02:35:40,680 --> 02:35:43,160
Speaker 1: beating with people all day, every day, none day. If

3034
02:35:43,240 --> 02:35:44,879
Speaker 1: you rock with me, I'll rock with you, and I'll

3035
02:35:44,920 --> 02:35:47,280
Speaker 1: rocked with you to the wheels fall off. Everything don't

3036
02:35:47,280 --> 02:35:49,520
Speaker 1: have to be public. We don't have to debate everything public.

3037
02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:51,000
Speaker 1: People ain't got to be in our business. But I

3038
02:35:51,040 --> 02:35:52,520
Speaker 1: need you know reason why I want to come to

3039
02:35:52,520 --> 02:35:54,600
Speaker 1: this space. Don't think this the first time. We don't

3040
02:35:54,600 --> 02:35:56,640
Speaker 1: talk since all the Hey, we missed the beat. So

3041
02:35:56,680 --> 02:35:59,240
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure y'all know that my brother,

3042
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:03,000
Speaker 1: my brother, the real Tim Black, because Tim Black and

3043
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:05,280
Speaker 1: and I'm speaking to this point. I'm speaking at this

3044
02:36:05,320 --> 02:36:08,400
Speaker 1: point because it's okay, guys like we can have disagreement

3045
02:36:08,560 --> 02:36:11,680
Speaker 1: when you are in politics. It is a very passionate thing.

3046
02:36:12,200 --> 02:36:15,280
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get us set. Tim Black guy mad

3047
02:36:15,320 --> 02:36:17,560
Speaker 1: as hard as fish, greases me. He blocked my ass

3048
02:36:17,560 --> 02:36:19,560
Speaker 1: and everything over Nina turn He loved it. So Nina

3049
02:36:19,640 --> 02:36:21,760
Speaker 1: Turner and we laugh about this. And I said, the

3050
02:36:21,840 --> 02:36:23,920
Speaker 1: nervous Tim Black girl blocked me over you when I'm

3051
02:36:23,959 --> 02:36:26,840
Speaker 1: the one introduced uh Nina turn into Tim Black. But girl,

3052
02:36:26,879 --> 02:36:29,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't going for it. But nobody knew me and

3053
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:31,640
Speaker 1: Tim got into it. We got into it in the

3054
02:36:31,720 --> 02:36:35,119
Speaker 1: back room. He blocked my black ass. I was fine

3055
02:36:35,160 --> 02:36:39,959
Speaker 1: with it. I didn't quick. No, no, no, no, let

3056
02:36:39,959 --> 02:36:43,360
Speaker 1: me finish my thoughts at just second, please Tim Black

3057
02:36:43,440 --> 02:36:46,720
Speaker 1: block my ass over Nina Turner. He said, what you

3058
02:36:46,760 --> 02:36:49,480
Speaker 1: ain't has to do is make nothing harder for Nina Turner.

3059
02:36:49,520 --> 02:36:52,199
Speaker 1: I never said I've never said nothing public to say

3060
02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:54,480
Speaker 1: nothing about bad about Nina Turner. So I don't know

3061
02:36:54,520 --> 02:36:56,240
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. But Tim wasn't going for it.

3062
02:36:56,360 --> 02:36:58,320
Speaker 1: He didn't like house moving, blocked my black had no

3063
02:36:58,400 --> 02:37:00,320
Speaker 1: problem and calls in the turning last the best a

3064
02:37:00,320 --> 02:37:03,640
Speaker 1: girl of nervous Tim blocking me over you. But it

3065
02:37:03,720 --> 02:37:05,680
Speaker 1: wasn't all. But Tim didn't need to know everything that

3066
02:37:05,800 --> 02:37:07,760
Speaker 1: was going on at that particular time. But that's still

3067
02:37:07,800 --> 02:37:10,640
Speaker 1: my brother. He blocked me. Then one day he unblocked

3068
02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:13,200
Speaker 1: me and says this, I'm sorry I blocked you, and

3069
02:37:13,240 --> 02:37:15,120
Speaker 1: I said, that's all right. I'm just remind you though

3070
02:37:15,120 --> 02:37:17,000
Speaker 1: we're about have had this conversation that we stayed in

3071
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:19,720
Speaker 1: the inbox, but probably good damn two three days that's this.

3072
02:37:19,800 --> 02:37:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to apologize to move on, and oh we

3073
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:23,520
Speaker 1: can't move on, baby, I got to go back over

3074
02:37:23,600 --> 02:37:26,560
Speaker 1: the rhind the receipts. So but the point I'm making

3075
02:37:26,600 --> 02:37:29,240
Speaker 1: it the point I'm making this. We did it behind

3076
02:37:29,320 --> 02:37:32,200
Speaker 1: the scenes. I wanted to tear my brother up in public,

3077
02:37:32,480 --> 02:37:34,760
Speaker 1: and he didn't tear me up in public. Nina didn't

3078
02:37:34,760 --> 02:37:36,920
Speaker 1: tear me up in public. I didn't tear up Needing

3079
02:37:36,920 --> 02:37:38,640
Speaker 1: in public. Cause what we ain't just to do and

3080
02:37:38,680 --> 02:37:41,160
Speaker 1: set up here and fight over white folks business. Same

3081
02:37:41,200 --> 02:37:43,600
Speaker 1: thing with Danny Glovel. My love. This is my brother.

3082
02:37:43,640 --> 02:37:45,240
Speaker 1: I love my brother. I would have been mad at

3083
02:37:45,280 --> 02:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Danny twice this year, but y'all ain't gonna know if

3084
02:37:48,480 --> 02:37:50,879
Speaker 1: white folks ain't damn trying to know. And when Danny

3085
02:37:50,879 --> 02:37:52,760
Speaker 1: called me, hey, what's happening? What you need me to do?

3086
02:37:52,800 --> 02:37:54,840
Speaker 1: Is it called me several times since I'm mad, talked

3087
02:37:54,840 --> 02:37:57,280
Speaker 1: me off the ledge. The bottom line is, I'm a writer.

3088
02:37:57,600 --> 02:37:59,400
Speaker 1: And when I say I'm a writer, I mean I

3089
02:37:59,440 --> 02:38:02,640
Speaker 1: am a tell the true rider. I ride with my people.

3090
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:05,240
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn what they say. Face I'm

3091
02:38:05,280 --> 02:38:08,000
Speaker 1: talking about in these places, when you gotta be face

3092
02:38:08,080 --> 02:38:10,920
Speaker 1: to face with these people in this room, in these campaigns,

3093
02:38:10,920 --> 02:38:13,560
Speaker 1: that's not trying to have our voice, and that is important.

3094
02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:15,480
Speaker 1: And you guys, you don't have to agree with everybody

3095
02:38:15,520 --> 02:38:16,960
Speaker 1: on this panel. You don't have to light well, I

3096
02:38:17,000 --> 02:38:18,360
Speaker 1: don't like it that you'd be able there saying this,

3097
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:20,640
Speaker 1: so that that's fine, you got the right to critique.

3098
02:38:20,879 --> 02:38:23,360
Speaker 1: But what I'm telling you in I wanted people on

3099
02:38:23,360 --> 02:38:26,240
Speaker 1: this panel that actually worked on these campaigns is because

3100
02:38:26,280 --> 02:38:28,240
Speaker 1: I wanted you to hear from people, some people that

3101
02:38:28,280 --> 02:38:30,879
Speaker 1: actually know the behind the scenes data. I'm gonna give

3102
02:38:30,920 --> 02:38:33,680
Speaker 1: it onto way. Figure out what's one more thing because

3103
02:38:33,720 --> 02:38:35,920
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta hop I'm just taking uh some

3104
02:38:36,040 --> 02:38:39,120
Speaker 1: liberty here. I do want to say so for Michael,

3105
02:38:39,120 --> 02:38:40,920
Speaker 1: I know he couldn't get on, but y'all lift up

3106
02:38:40,920 --> 02:38:43,120
Speaker 1: our you know, continue to lift him up because he

3107
02:38:43,200 --> 02:38:45,240
Speaker 1: is symbolic. What he is going through is what other

3108
02:38:45,280 --> 02:38:48,560
Speaker 1: black men are going through in different spaces and places

3109
02:38:48,560 --> 02:38:50,600
Speaker 1: in this country. We can see what's happening all over

3110
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:55,199
Speaker 1: from the NBA to the streets. So please lift him up. Secondly,

3111
02:38:55,240 --> 02:38:57,080
Speaker 1: I want to say about figure, Oh yeah, we ain't

3112
02:38:57,080 --> 02:38:58,960
Speaker 1: gotta tell the whole story night, but figure out maybe

3113
02:38:58,959 --> 02:39:01,240
Speaker 1: we'll just have a whole face that we walked back

3114
02:39:01,240 --> 02:39:03,440
Speaker 1: down memory lane when she said she is a writer,

3115
02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:05,680
Speaker 1: she is a writer. When I tell you, people have

3116
02:39:05,920 --> 02:39:09,640
Speaker 1: literally tried to separate us, you know, to demean her

3117
02:39:10,480 --> 02:39:12,880
Speaker 1: out in the open and public writers right and ship

3118
02:39:12,959 --> 02:39:16,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't true, trying to take down the whole ASK organization,

3119
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:19,160
Speaker 1: all revolution just because I was in charge of it

3120
02:39:19,720 --> 02:39:22,520
Speaker 1: at the hands of some of our Hispanic sisters. Uh.

3121
02:39:22,560 --> 02:39:24,640
Speaker 1: And I used the word sisters lightly on that one,

3122
02:39:25,000 --> 02:39:28,720
Speaker 1: because when you come and taking livelihood and and all

3123
02:39:28,760 --> 02:39:30,360
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff, this stuff is real. So

3124
02:39:30,440 --> 02:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Figuo is real on this. This is what she is

3125
02:39:32,959 --> 02:39:38,320
Speaker 1: saying is absolutely correct. She is a writer. People tried

3126
02:39:38,440 --> 02:39:40,280
Speaker 1: to divide us in real life, and when she talked

3127
02:39:40,280 --> 02:39:44,680
Speaker 1: about strategy, we had to strategize on both of our behalves.

3128
02:39:45,400 --> 02:39:48,120
Speaker 1: And that's a whole another story. So this woman is

3129
02:39:48,160 --> 02:39:50,280
Speaker 1: the real deal now that only hell we fight too

3130
02:39:50,320 --> 02:39:59,400
Speaker 1: behind you, you ain't ye. Shout out to that, Shout

3131
02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:02,000
Speaker 1: out to nah I seeing the building, the reparations. That's

3132
02:40:02,000 --> 02:40:04,400
Speaker 1: been holding me down because it was so funny. Is

3133
02:40:04,600 --> 02:40:07,480
Speaker 1: people have been laughing people and saying she Latino, she Lauten,

3134
02:40:07,680 --> 02:40:09,879
Speaker 1: and they don't even know that. The reason I made

3135
02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:12,520
Speaker 1: that statement when I made that tweet is because the

3136
02:40:12,600 --> 02:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Latinos were trying to cancel me, and I said, well,

3137
02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm Latino to the same way that our brother Kyrie said, well,

3138
02:40:17,600 --> 02:40:20,240
Speaker 1: I can't be anti Semite if I'm if I am Jewish.

3139
02:40:20,520 --> 02:40:23,600
Speaker 1: So even that tweet that they keep circulating around, I

3140
02:40:23,720 --> 02:40:26,240
Speaker 1: was saying that because I was in the fire for

3141
02:40:26,320 --> 02:40:28,879
Speaker 1: black people, and some of you me gules on here

3142
02:40:28,920 --> 02:40:31,200
Speaker 1: that they never had to stand in the fire. They

3143
02:40:31,280 --> 02:40:34,280
Speaker 1: go buy chicken wing five a nine, that they never

3144
02:40:34,360 --> 02:40:38,280
Speaker 1: had political in Washington Time, Washington Post, in New York

3145
02:40:38,320 --> 02:40:41,280
Speaker 1: Times and four and five and six other newspapers writing

3146
02:40:41,320 --> 02:40:44,000
Speaker 1: about your black ass all at the same time, it

3147
02:40:44,080 --> 02:40:45,800
Speaker 1: was me and it was and I said it on

3148
02:40:45,879 --> 02:40:47,560
Speaker 1: a bragging that's just what it is. And it was

3149
02:40:47,600 --> 02:40:49,760
Speaker 1: holding it down for black people. So some of y'all

3150
02:40:49,879 --> 02:40:52,000
Speaker 1: kind of need to slow your rolls sometime. I know

3151
02:40:52,080 --> 02:40:54,200
Speaker 1: y'all want to pick talking points and you want to

3152
02:40:54,320 --> 02:40:56,200
Speaker 1: roll with it and try to make it true. But

3153
02:40:56,280 --> 02:40:59,280
Speaker 1: when you get into the real, the real receipts and

3154
02:40:59,360 --> 02:41:01,640
Speaker 1: really asks, I don't have no problem. If it ain't

3155
02:41:01,640 --> 02:41:03,600
Speaker 1: your business, I'll tell you that ain't your business. But

3156
02:41:03,680 --> 02:41:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that I'm glad that the Centerton was

3157
02:41:06,760 --> 02:41:08,480
Speaker 1: able to tell you that because that was for you.

3158
02:41:08,560 --> 02:41:10,720
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know shit about what went all behind the scenes,

3159
02:41:11,000 --> 02:41:17,040
Speaker 1: but ever changed. I was gonna say what you said

3160
02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:19,879
Speaker 1: because I know it's litigation involved. But there were only

3161
02:41:19,920 --> 02:41:23,520
Speaker 1: a couple of people that took on the Bernie Sanders

3162
02:41:23,560 --> 02:41:27,320
Speaker 1: progressive establishment when it came to mistreating black folks and

3163
02:41:27,400 --> 02:41:30,879
Speaker 1: the lack of parody that existed between black people and

3164
02:41:30,959 --> 02:41:34,240
Speaker 1: the Latino community. All right, that wasn't happening all of

3165
02:41:34,320 --> 02:41:36,800
Speaker 1: there were disparities all over the place. When it came

3166
02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:40,320
Speaker 1: down to my hbc U tour, we man it held

3167
02:41:40,440 --> 02:41:43,480
Speaker 1: in comparison to the stuff they were doing with the

3168
02:41:43,480 --> 02:41:46,240
Speaker 1: white folks and stuff they were doing with the Latino community.

3169
02:41:46,280 --> 02:41:48,480
Speaker 1: So when it came out of calling up testing to

3170
02:41:48,560 --> 02:41:51,359
Speaker 1: let the charge, and I was like, back, I'm popping

3171
02:41:51,480 --> 02:41:53,640
Speaker 1: right up behind it. And there were only a couple

3172
02:41:53,640 --> 02:41:56,080
Speaker 1: of people from that campaign that did it, not because

3173
02:41:56,120 --> 02:41:58,440
Speaker 1: they didn't want to, but because it wasn't their time

3174
02:41:58,480 --> 02:42:01,080
Speaker 1: to do it. When it wasn't was it what you know,

3175
02:42:01,080 --> 02:42:03,199
Speaker 1: when it wasn't the best thing to do. So, Tesla,

3176
02:42:03,640 --> 02:42:07,320
Speaker 1: it's all on point. I appreciate yourvison in space. I'm garried,

3177
02:42:07,400 --> 02:42:10,240
Speaker 1: hop off and I got a holiday. Auntie Nina her

3178
02:42:10,320 --> 02:42:13,480
Speaker 1: first event with Bernie. I met her. She put me

3179
02:42:13,520 --> 02:42:15,600
Speaker 1: in my place because I gotta tend to fly close

3180
02:42:15,680 --> 02:42:17,120
Speaker 1: to the sun. But I want to say I love

3181
02:42:17,160 --> 02:42:19,480
Speaker 1: you and I appreciate you. But when it comes down

3182
02:42:19,520 --> 02:42:21,840
Speaker 1: to all this, anybody that's associated with it Bernie Cafe,

3183
02:42:21,920 --> 02:42:24,600
Speaker 1: because it's been a lot of Bernie talk. We all

3184
02:42:24,920 --> 02:42:27,640
Speaker 1: came to this man partially because he was the only

3185
02:42:27,680 --> 02:42:30,400
Speaker 1: white man in this country, the only white man on

3186
02:42:30,560 --> 02:42:34,600
Speaker 1: that political stage that was talking about reparations and crowds

3187
02:42:34,600 --> 02:42:38,360
Speaker 1: of twenty thousand, thirty thousand plus people. All right, So

3188
02:42:38,400 --> 02:42:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that, and I'm gonna backdown or I'm

3189
02:42:42,320 --> 02:42:45,120
Speaker 1: always trust me and everybody in the crew know that

3190
02:42:45,200 --> 02:42:47,400
Speaker 1: I am quick to hold but nord speak to the first.

3191
02:42:47,560 --> 02:42:51,920
Speaker 1: I am the first Google. That's that's why I don't

3192
02:42:51,920 --> 02:42:53,920
Speaker 1: care when people said of making up about I don't

3193
02:42:53,920 --> 02:42:55,320
Speaker 1: give damn back with no body talking about me, because

3194
02:42:55,320 --> 02:42:57,000
Speaker 1: I know when it really come down to it, when

3195
02:42:57,000 --> 02:42:59,640
Speaker 1: people say, oh no, I'm they more black than me,

3196
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:01,480
Speaker 1: ain't no way in here, because you ain't winning a

3197
02:43:01,520 --> 02:43:03,280
Speaker 1: lay down a damn thing. You ain't gonna later down

3198
02:43:03,400 --> 02:43:05,560
Speaker 1: your job, you ain't gonna later and getting put on

3199
02:43:05,560 --> 02:43:07,000
Speaker 1: the f b I list. We haven't been on the

3200
02:43:07,000 --> 02:43:09,039
Speaker 1: f b I list your damn ain't gonna standing there

3201
02:43:09,040 --> 02:43:10,920
Speaker 1: at the rally last week when we had the snipers

3202
02:43:10,920 --> 02:43:13,800
Speaker 1: on the roof. So everybody you talking to tricks, do

3203
02:43:14,000 --> 02:43:25,560
Speaker 1: your own rally right talking talking on Twitter? When when

3204
02:43:25,600 --> 02:43:28,160
Speaker 1: figure out when? She? I mean she came in hot

3205
02:43:28,480 --> 02:43:30,320
Speaker 1: And I pulled into the side one day and I'm

3206
02:43:30,320 --> 02:43:32,640
Speaker 1: just gonna say this, and I said, figure roll, now,

3207
02:43:32,920 --> 02:43:35,440
Speaker 1: you just got this job, okay, because then you know

3208
02:43:35,480 --> 02:43:39,760
Speaker 1: she called that hot coming she was as the t

3209
02:43:40,000 --> 02:43:43,640
Speaker 1: on give a day. She said, I will, I will

3210
02:43:43,720 --> 02:43:47,959
Speaker 1: work at a Look, can you tell them? Can we

3211
02:43:48,040 --> 02:43:50,960
Speaker 1: just say this? We need to face on memory, like,

3212
02:43:51,280 --> 02:43:53,680
Speaker 1: but do you can you tell these folks that I

3213
02:43:53,800 --> 02:43:56,480
Speaker 1: literally did not have a job as a single mother.

3214
02:43:56,879 --> 02:43:59,440
Speaker 1: I literally had just because I got late, I got

3215
02:43:59,480 --> 02:44:02,680
Speaker 1: laid off guys for my six figure business. I literally

3216
02:44:03,000 --> 02:44:05,760
Speaker 1: was overing. I just put in an application for Kroger

3217
02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:09,000
Speaker 1: and I still went in there saying, no, I'm here

3218
02:44:09,040 --> 02:44:11,879
Speaker 1: for this and this only. And just like she told you,

3219
02:44:11,920 --> 02:44:13,800
Speaker 1: she pulled me to the side and said, figure out down,

3220
02:44:14,000 --> 02:44:15,480
Speaker 1: you can't do that if you want the job. I

3221
02:44:15,480 --> 02:44:17,480
Speaker 1: don't give a damn about the job. I put an

3222
02:44:17,520 --> 02:44:20,560
Speaker 1: application with Crow, but I'm cool with that. So negroes

3223
02:44:20,640 --> 02:44:22,440
Speaker 1: that that set up and talk about all of that,

3224
02:44:22,520 --> 02:44:24,680
Speaker 1: and you would never and I'm not saying that being

3225
02:44:24,680 --> 02:44:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what's real, Like we can really

3226
02:44:26,800 --> 02:44:28,680
Speaker 1: run down these damn facts you just told you. She

3227
02:44:28,760 --> 02:44:31,280
Speaker 1: pulled me to the side, because you want one thing

3228
02:44:31,320 --> 02:44:33,320
Speaker 1: you'll figure out in this business, it's gonna be somebody

3229
02:44:33,320 --> 02:44:35,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna pull you to the side, just like they

3230
02:44:35,120 --> 02:44:36,680
Speaker 1: pulled me to the side with Fox and said we'll

3231
02:44:36,720 --> 02:44:39,040
Speaker 1: make you a millionaire. Michael Cohen said he'll make me

3232
02:44:39,080 --> 02:44:41,440
Speaker 1: a millionaire two thousand and sixteen. That was the one

3233
02:44:41,480 --> 02:44:43,160
Speaker 1: I was sitting next to on Charlotte Magne's show. And

3234
02:44:43,200 --> 02:44:45,800
Speaker 1: guess what Michael Cohen ended up ragging on. Trump went

3235
02:44:45,800 --> 02:44:47,720
Speaker 1: to went to jealous emotion. Sh It, I'm the same

3236
02:44:47,800 --> 02:44:49,720
Speaker 1: Testa Figuro. So y'all make sure y'all run and go

3237
02:44:49,840 --> 02:44:56,600
Speaker 1: tell that Chip hello. I'm sorry it's g I interrupt you,

3238
02:44:56,640 --> 02:44:58,840
Speaker 1: but I wanted enough. I want to know. I said

3239
02:44:58,879 --> 02:45:01,720
Speaker 1: I would, but I well, I just pressed off the

3240
02:45:01,840 --> 02:45:05,360
Speaker 1: uber line then with a daughter and everything. So she,

3241
02:45:05,480 --> 02:45:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, she really and you know, for black and

3242
02:45:08,480 --> 02:45:10,080
Speaker 1: just all of these other people. One of the things

3243
02:45:10,080 --> 02:45:12,959
Speaker 1: we just gotta get sometimes to just get understanding. You know,

3244
02:45:13,000 --> 02:45:16,080
Speaker 1: there's a quote from Stephen Covey, a leadership guru. He's not,

3245
02:45:16,320 --> 02:45:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, on this plane the big distance anymore, but

3246
02:45:18,240 --> 02:45:20,960
Speaker 1: he said once it's a seek first to understanding, then

3247
02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:23,720
Speaker 1: to be understood. And that's what these spaces that figure

3248
02:45:23,720 --> 02:45:26,400
Speaker 1: OUs opened up for all of us really means. Seek

3249
02:45:26,440 --> 02:45:29,280
Speaker 1: first to understanding, then to be understood. Doesn't doesn't mean

3250
02:45:29,320 --> 02:45:31,880
Speaker 1: that your thought processes might not change by the time

3251
02:45:31,959 --> 02:45:34,480
Speaker 1: you leave and get that understanding. But at least we

3252
02:45:34,600 --> 02:45:37,320
Speaker 1: all had an opportunity to understand one another. Everybody can

3253
02:45:37,480 --> 02:45:39,600
Speaker 1: ride as hard as figure out. We're not even saying

3254
02:45:39,640 --> 02:45:42,800
Speaker 1: that she rides. I mean it is. It is she does,

3255
02:45:42,959 --> 02:45:45,120
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of misunderstanding, and we're so

3256
02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:47,800
Speaker 1: quick to jump on one another. You know, I've run

3257
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:50,680
Speaker 1: several races, I've lost several races, but at least I've

3258
02:45:50,680 --> 02:45:52,800
Speaker 1: been in the arena. And then for most folks who

3259
02:45:52,800 --> 02:45:54,800
Speaker 1: ain't never put nothing on the line. And he's gotta

3260
02:45:55,080 --> 02:45:57,280
Speaker 1: nerd to run back. Mabracy, you know she ran for

3261
02:45:57,320 --> 02:46:01,000
Speaker 1: secretation that you damn right, I did to blaze a trail,

3262
02:46:01,320 --> 02:46:02,880
Speaker 1: did I did? I know I was walking through hell?

3263
02:46:02,920 --> 02:46:05,960
Speaker 1: With gasoline clothing on. Yeah, I didn't know that. But

3264
02:46:06,080 --> 02:46:08,480
Speaker 1: what you're doing while you're sitting up there running my

3265
02:46:08,600 --> 02:46:11,360
Speaker 1: receipts down? What are you willing to sacrifice for so

3266
02:46:11,440 --> 02:46:13,840
Speaker 1: many people are not? You know, I ran for Congress

3267
02:46:13,879 --> 02:46:17,080
Speaker 1: these last two times back to back, had the forces.

3268
02:46:17,360 --> 02:46:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm the President of the United States of America. Do

3269
02:46:20,120 --> 02:46:22,360
Speaker 1: y'all hear me? Got into the second race black, No,

3270
02:46:22,520 --> 02:46:25,040
Speaker 1: he was on the ground, got into the race. That

3271
02:46:25,160 --> 02:46:28,040
Speaker 1: What does that tell you about who I am? And

3272
02:46:28,080 --> 02:46:31,400
Speaker 1: the fear that these neoliberals have because they know I

3273
02:46:31,440 --> 02:46:34,879
Speaker 1: ain't walk in the line for no damn Democratic party

3274
02:46:35,080 --> 02:46:38,080
Speaker 1: that's not supporting and taking care of my people. Although

3275
02:46:38,160 --> 02:46:42,360
Speaker 1: I am a Democrat by damn default. But I'm gonna

3276
02:46:42,480 --> 02:46:44,800
Speaker 1: let you know about my people, and my people are

3277
02:46:44,879 --> 02:46:49,800
Speaker 1: black people and other downtrodden people, working class mofos in

3278
02:46:49,879 --> 02:46:53,800
Speaker 1: this country. Who needs somebody who don't worry about going

3279
02:46:53,800 --> 02:46:55,640
Speaker 1: to the damn Christmas Party because me and figure out

3280
02:46:55,640 --> 02:46:58,080
Speaker 1: will have our own damn Christmas party. Now that tells

3281
02:46:58,080 --> 02:46:59,959
Speaker 1: you the President of United States jump in the race

3282
02:47:00,040 --> 02:47:02,920
Speaker 1: for somebody he don't know to try to stop me

3283
02:47:03,520 --> 02:47:06,240
Speaker 1: from becoming a congresswoman. That should tell you all the

3284
02:47:06,280 --> 02:47:09,560
Speaker 1: hell that you need to know in these mo fols

3285
02:47:09,840 --> 02:47:12,080
Speaker 1: and figure, oh no, Danny know would not even let

3286
02:47:12,120 --> 02:47:15,520
Speaker 1: me put Senator Sanders name in nomination. Do y'all hear me?

3287
02:47:16,120 --> 02:47:19,920
Speaker 1: The man picked me in and post the gabble them them,

3288
02:47:20,000 --> 02:47:24,360
Speaker 1: them folks told Senator over their dead body, but they

3289
02:47:24,440 --> 02:47:27,600
Speaker 1: let me now, they let they let they let uh

3290
02:47:27,640 --> 02:47:30,440
Speaker 1: the congresswoman do it at the time. Gabble but they said,

3291
02:47:30,440 --> 02:47:32,959
Speaker 1: oh no, Nina Turner will never go anywhere near the

3292
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:35,840
Speaker 1: mic as long as we are in control. That's fear.

3293
02:47:37,240 --> 02:47:40,480
Speaker 1: That's so don't you don't know what people sacrifice? And

3294
02:47:40,520 --> 02:47:43,280
Speaker 1: this figirl said, we we don't workshop out everything on

3295
02:47:43,320 --> 02:47:46,360
Speaker 1: social media, but seek us to understanding men, to get

3296
02:47:46,400 --> 02:47:49,080
Speaker 1: some understanding and then everything. Don't you ain't got to

3297
02:47:49,160 --> 02:47:51,120
Speaker 1: jump in on everything and try to jump on folks.

3298
02:47:51,160 --> 02:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to sit back and listen and let

3299
02:47:53,959 --> 02:47:57,000
Speaker 1: some things play out. So just loving one another, even

3300
02:47:57,040 --> 02:48:00,520
Speaker 1: when we in disagreement, we are powerful beyond we even

3301
02:48:00,600 --> 02:48:03,959
Speaker 1: recognize and realize. And I just love to figure out

3302
02:48:04,000 --> 02:48:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, I love you and and it's real. Mo.

3303
02:48:06,200 --> 02:48:10,040
Speaker 1: Folks really tried, they tried to take her livelihood, tried

3304
02:48:10,120 --> 02:48:12,959
Speaker 1: to disregard her intellect and her experience, and that was

3305
02:48:13,000 --> 02:48:16,160
Speaker 1: a very painful moment for both of us, and the

3306
02:48:16,240 --> 02:48:18,879
Speaker 1: devil could have came in. They the devil did creep in,

3307
02:48:18,959 --> 02:48:20,760
Speaker 1: but we ain't let let let him of her staying

3308
02:48:20,760 --> 02:48:23,440
Speaker 1: because hell, the devil could be a goddamned woman sometimes too.

3309
02:48:23,760 --> 02:48:27,680
Speaker 1: We stayed together, and I'm so incredibly blessed that this

3310
02:48:27,720 --> 02:48:30,080
Speaker 1: woman is in my life and that she does what

3311
02:48:30,200 --> 02:48:33,640
Speaker 1: she does. I just gotta say this before you leave me,

3312
02:48:33,840 --> 02:48:36,440
Speaker 1: because you gotta understand. Just like one of the people

3313
02:48:36,440 --> 02:48:39,440
Speaker 1: in the comment section and said, somebody, I'm assuming it's

3314
02:48:39,480 --> 02:48:42,560
Speaker 1: a Caucasian brother, he said, why you gotta be talking

3315
02:48:42,680 --> 02:48:44,720
Speaker 1: about black? Why we got it? You can we just

3316
02:48:44,800 --> 02:48:49,039
Speaker 1: not focus on black? Listen, man, your first motherfucker okay,

3317
02:48:49,280 --> 02:48:52,040
Speaker 1: you first tell you and your cousin's let's stop focusing

3318
02:48:52,080 --> 02:48:54,440
Speaker 1: on black. So this is We lived this, and I

3319
02:48:54,480 --> 02:48:56,400
Speaker 1: think with me and I know, I know I take

3320
02:48:56,440 --> 02:48:58,360
Speaker 1: things a little too fun. You know what I'm saying.

3321
02:48:58,400 --> 02:49:00,720
Speaker 1: I get there. I represent that. Here's the thing, man,

3322
02:49:00,720 --> 02:49:03,119
Speaker 1: You're not just gonna treat my sisters and my brothers

3323
02:49:03,200 --> 02:49:05,959
Speaker 1: like ship. You're not gonna be on front street acting

3324
02:49:06,000 --> 02:49:08,039
Speaker 1: like you gotta back and then when the time comes

3325
02:49:08,080 --> 02:49:10,359
Speaker 1: when the rubber meets to road, act like y'all don't

3326
02:49:10,400 --> 02:49:12,840
Speaker 1: like y'all don't know who we are, and then you're

3327
02:49:12,840 --> 02:49:15,879
Speaker 1: gonna planck lies and try to derail their campaigns and

3328
02:49:15,920 --> 02:49:18,720
Speaker 1: take food off their tables. I met this woman's father,

3329
02:49:19,000 --> 02:49:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm at her sister's I'm at her family. I know

3330
02:49:21,879 --> 02:49:25,040
Speaker 1: she real. You're gonna tell me she not because she misspelled,

3331
02:49:25,240 --> 02:49:28,760
Speaker 1: but she misstated Medicare for all instead of universal health care,

3332
02:49:28,879 --> 02:49:31,440
Speaker 1: universal health care instead of medicare for all, and you're

3333
02:49:31,440 --> 02:49:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna tell people not to donate to her campaign. Yeah.

3334
02:49:34,480 --> 02:49:37,119
Speaker 1: I was licked. I was hot, and I couldn't keep

3335
02:49:37,160 --> 02:49:39,120
Speaker 1: that sit private. So I tried to flip this o

3336
02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:42,440
Speaker 1: professive movement over because these people are phony. They are

3337
02:49:42,480 --> 02:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Internet riders, keyboard warriors. They are not real, my real pa.

3338
02:49:47,280 --> 02:49:49,720
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm with black folks. I'm riding with us.

3339
02:49:49,879 --> 02:49:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm progressive for black first, because I recognize that that

3340
02:49:54,000 --> 02:49:57,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna never change. It's never gonna change. We understand

3341
02:49:57,360 --> 02:49:59,880
Speaker 1: each other's struggle, and to my story, I had you

3342
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,240
Speaker 1: on the show before mine. A lot of these progressives

3343
02:50:02,280 --> 02:50:04,720
Speaker 1: don't get it. They they think when you talk about guns.

3344
02:50:04,800 --> 02:50:07,440
Speaker 1: They're thinking you're talking about some promoting school shooters. No,

3345
02:50:07,520 --> 02:50:10,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about shooters on the block, motherfucker. We're not

3346
02:50:10,160 --> 02:50:12,920
Speaker 1: talking about school shooters. Some of my brothers need guns

3347
02:50:12,959 --> 02:50:15,560
Speaker 1: because their lives are in jeopardy. They're not joined the

3348
02:50:15,600 --> 02:50:18,199
Speaker 1: games because it's fun. They joined the games to stay alive.

3349
02:50:18,440 --> 02:50:21,080
Speaker 1: These progressives don't get it, and they don't want to listen.

3350
02:50:21,240 --> 02:50:23,440
Speaker 1: And they don't want a black man to get bigger

3351
02:50:23,480 --> 02:50:26,480
Speaker 1: in this space because I'm speaking the real ship. They

3352
02:50:26,480 --> 02:50:29,480
Speaker 1: want to control the mess to you. They don't want

3353
02:50:29,480 --> 02:50:31,840
Speaker 1: black people to leave. And then, and if you ain't progressive,

3354
02:50:31,879 --> 02:50:33,840
Speaker 1: if you ain't pro black, if you ain't fighting for

3355
02:50:33,920 --> 02:50:37,880
Speaker 1: black people, you are not progressive. You are regressive. So

3356
02:50:37,920 --> 02:50:39,680
Speaker 1: I yield the floor. But I want you to know neither.

3357
02:50:39,760 --> 02:50:42,879
Speaker 1: We love you, chest, I love you well, and we're

3358
02:50:42,879 --> 02:50:45,560
Speaker 1: gonna keep riding. We're gonna keep calling the mouth. I

3359
02:50:45,560 --> 02:50:48,440
Speaker 1: ain't gonna stand down. I'm too old for this bullshit.

3360
02:50:48,720 --> 02:50:59,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna get what's coming to us, reparations or death. Baby.

3361
02:51:01,040 --> 02:51:02,320
Speaker 1: I just want to say one of the real quick,

3362
02:51:02,360 --> 02:51:03,760
Speaker 1: cause I gotta bounce too. I said I was gonna

3363
02:51:03,800 --> 02:51:05,320
Speaker 1: leave the ten, but I've been here another hour because

3364
02:51:05,320 --> 02:51:07,800
Speaker 1: it's been so fired. What I want to say is

3365
02:51:07,840 --> 02:51:10,560
Speaker 1: this a lot of this stuff that we they were

3366
02:51:10,560 --> 02:51:12,400
Speaker 1: talking about right now, and a lot of the issues

3367
02:51:12,400 --> 02:51:15,160
Speaker 1: that we're dealing with, it's because we got the wrong

3368
02:51:15,240 --> 02:51:18,160
Speaker 1: people speaking for us in too many spaces. We've got

3369
02:51:18,160 --> 02:51:20,360
Speaker 1: to get new gate keepers. We got to get new

3370
02:51:20,400 --> 02:51:23,200
Speaker 1: people who really are about black people. And we got

3371
02:51:23,200 --> 02:51:25,320
Speaker 1: to get some of these damns people who run or

3372
02:51:25,360 --> 02:51:27,959
Speaker 1: at these magazines and some of these pundits and some

3373
02:51:28,040 --> 02:51:29,480
Speaker 1: of these people who were in the ear of a

3374
02:51:29,480 --> 02:51:30,800
Speaker 1: lot of the power. Struct you're out of the pain

3375
02:51:30,840 --> 02:51:32,920
Speaker 1: because they're only there to serve themselves. They don't give

3376
02:51:32,920 --> 02:51:35,280
Speaker 1: a damn about you. They don't give a damn about me.

3377
02:51:35,640 --> 02:51:37,560
Speaker 1: And if for damn, you don't give a damn about ranking,

3378
02:51:37,600 --> 02:51:39,360
Speaker 1: find black people who work in class with black people,

3379
02:51:39,400 --> 02:51:41,120
Speaker 1: and as long as they're in the ear of these people,

3380
02:51:41,400 --> 02:51:43,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the same results you always have. You

3381
02:51:43,320 --> 02:51:46,640
Speaker 1: get boy goddamn pop locking, you get another damn Torque video.

3382
02:51:46,680 --> 02:51:48,959
Speaker 1: And we said we want some policy and reparations, you're

3383
02:51:48,959 --> 02:51:51,680
Speaker 1: gonna get some old wrapper from Night five comes out

3384
02:51:51,680 --> 02:51:54,000
Speaker 1: to do his old head again. And people are tired

3385
02:51:54,040 --> 02:51:56,200
Speaker 1: of that. People are just not having that. A lot

3386
02:51:56,200 --> 02:51:58,520
Speaker 1: of older voters are sick of that. Young voters, damned

3387
02:51:58,520 --> 02:52:00,400
Speaker 1: sure are tired of it. And people we are trying

3388
02:52:00,400 --> 02:52:03,120
Speaker 1: to get engaged with the process gotta help policy. I

3389
02:52:03,200 --> 02:52:05,200
Speaker 1: promise people listen. And I know there's some people in

3390
02:52:05,280 --> 02:52:07,440
Speaker 1: here who do who are in those spaces, and I

3391
02:52:07,440 --> 02:52:09,160
Speaker 1: see some people in here who I know who do that,

3392
02:52:09,200 --> 02:52:12,240
Speaker 1: and listen. I just want to say this, It's okay

3393
02:52:12,240 --> 02:52:15,360
Speaker 1: to talk to black people with a note pad. It's

3394
02:52:15,360 --> 02:52:17,560
Speaker 1: okay to put on a suit. It's okay to put

3395
02:52:17,560 --> 02:52:19,199
Speaker 1: your policy in front of place, to talk to people

3396
02:52:19,200 --> 02:52:20,800
Speaker 1: like human beings. You don't need to bring out no

3397
02:52:20,879 --> 02:52:23,720
Speaker 1: chicken demers, you don't need to bring out no bootyshape videos.

3398
02:52:24,040 --> 02:52:26,440
Speaker 1: You don't need to bring out no music and chid hotway.

3399
02:52:26,560 --> 02:52:29,280
Speaker 1: I promise black people understand the King's English and the

3400
02:52:29,400 --> 02:52:31,720
Speaker 1: understand who English. So please, for the love of God,

3401
02:52:32,280 --> 02:52:34,320
Speaker 1: start with the damn videos and talk to us like

3402
02:52:34,400 --> 02:52:38,560
Speaker 1: human beings. That's it, And I'd like to jump in

3403
02:52:38,600 --> 02:52:43,360
Speaker 1: before I need to leave. And when she said that

3404
02:52:43,400 --> 02:52:48,480
Speaker 1: she was people to raide with her, I'm like, that's

3405
02:52:48,520 --> 02:52:52,160
Speaker 1: what I do. And like all of the comments that

3406
02:52:52,200 --> 02:52:55,240
Speaker 1: I get is like, please stop yelling at me, Please stop,

3407
02:52:55,360 --> 02:52:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, lord, and tone of your voice you know

3408
02:52:57,720 --> 02:53:04,039
Speaker 1: likes yo. I'm like, how many fucking times will have

3409
02:53:04,120 --> 02:53:07,360
Speaker 1: to tell you? You know what I'm saying like and

3410
02:53:07,560 --> 02:53:11,000
Speaker 1: like in this space, I know I know how to

3411
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, watch my language and be you know, be

3412
02:53:14,760 --> 02:53:18,120
Speaker 1: specific about my words, but like in this space, I'll

3413
02:53:18,160 --> 02:53:20,160
Speaker 1: just say it, like how many fun times am I

3414
02:53:20,160 --> 02:53:22,760
Speaker 1: supposed to tell you? Like? How many? Like? How many

3415
02:53:22,800 --> 02:53:25,199
Speaker 1: times am I supposed to say it to you rationally?

3416
02:53:25,520 --> 02:53:27,480
Speaker 1: How many times am I supposed to say it to

3417
02:53:27,520 --> 02:53:31,160
Speaker 1: you logically? How many times have I am I supposed

3418
02:53:31,200 --> 02:53:34,480
Speaker 1: to attach it to historical context? How many times am

3419
02:53:34,480 --> 02:53:38,080
Speaker 1: I supposed to talk um to give it a cultural reference?

3420
02:53:38,280 --> 02:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Like how many fucking times? How many different ways am

3421
02:53:42,600 --> 02:53:46,760
Speaker 1: I supposed to spoon feed you this ship that you

3422
02:53:46,959 --> 02:53:52,720
Speaker 1: will somehow having epiphany that we are fucking American citizens

3423
02:53:52,720 --> 02:53:55,080
Speaker 1: and we're not giving up our culture. We're not giving

3424
02:53:55,160 --> 02:53:58,080
Speaker 1: up our history, We're not giving up our communities. We're

3425
02:53:58,120 --> 02:54:00,520
Speaker 1: not giving up our wealth, like, we're not giving up

3426
02:54:00,520 --> 02:54:05,039
Speaker 1: our ingenuity, We're not getting giving up our innovativeness, like

3427
02:54:05,120 --> 02:54:10,000
Speaker 1: we're not giving up anything to funk with you so

3428
02:54:10,120 --> 02:54:13,440
Speaker 1: like that's the deal, that we'll put it on the table.

3429
02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:17,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna take us like we are. You're gonna take

3430
02:54:17,879 --> 02:54:23,600
Speaker 1: us as we fucking are, not gonna clean up our language,

3431
02:54:23,800 --> 02:54:26,400
Speaker 1: and if I have to get loud to make you

3432
02:54:26,480 --> 02:54:29,480
Speaker 1: listen to me, because I used to walk in Republican

3433
02:54:29,560 --> 02:54:33,440
Speaker 1: circles and I used to be self spoken. I used

3434
02:54:33,480 --> 02:54:37,840
Speaker 1: to be amenable. You know, people felt good approaching me.

3435
02:54:38,480 --> 02:54:41,160
Speaker 1: And then you kept working with me, and the more

3436
02:54:41,200 --> 02:54:44,160
Speaker 1: you funk with me, the more I felt a little

3437
02:54:44,240 --> 02:54:47,320
Speaker 1: less like being nice, the more I felt a little

3438
02:54:47,400 --> 02:54:52,440
Speaker 1: less like cooperating with you. And I came to realize

3439
02:54:52,840 --> 02:54:55,880
Speaker 1: that as long as I play with you, as long

3440
02:54:55,920 --> 02:54:59,320
Speaker 1: as I'm nice, as long as I'm silent, then you

3441
02:54:59,480 --> 02:55:03,080
Speaker 1: think I am amenable. You think you can get to me,

3442
02:55:03,720 --> 02:55:06,560
Speaker 1: and I need to let you know you can't fucking

3443
02:55:06,600 --> 02:55:10,240
Speaker 1: get to me. I'm not going to change. When I

3444
02:55:10,400 --> 02:55:14,120
Speaker 1: say that you have to have a black agenda, I

3445
02:55:14,160 --> 02:55:17,199
Speaker 1: mean you have to have a black agenda. When I

3446
02:55:17,280 --> 02:55:21,600
Speaker 1: say you have to go into the black community, I

3447
02:55:21,640 --> 02:55:25,039
Speaker 1: mean you have to go into the black community. I

3448
02:55:25,080 --> 02:55:29,800
Speaker 1: am not leaving room for you to navigate around what

3449
02:55:29,840 --> 02:55:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I am not leaving a question mark or

3450
02:55:33,680 --> 02:55:38,039
Speaker 1: any ambiguity. If you don't, then my foot stays on

3451
02:55:38,080 --> 02:55:41,240
Speaker 1: your neck. You can continue to crowd it. I'm too loud,

3452
02:55:41,520 --> 02:55:44,720
Speaker 1: you can continue to crowd it. I'm too uppity, I

3453
02:55:44,800 --> 02:55:48,560
Speaker 1: don't care. I am at rage point and that's what

3454
02:55:48,640 --> 02:55:52,360
Speaker 1: you're getting right now. And if you have a problem

3455
02:55:52,400 --> 02:55:56,080
Speaker 1: with that, then you are a problem with what America

3456
02:55:56,200 --> 02:56:01,200
Speaker 1: has created. Because this bitch created me, then country created

3457
02:56:01,280 --> 02:56:05,960
Speaker 1: me everything. I'm mad at everything. I'm angry at everything

3458
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:10,080
Speaker 1: I carry, and I am a personal responsibility person. I

3459
02:56:10,200 --> 02:56:12,800
Speaker 1: have a husband, I have a good family. I have

3460
02:56:13,000 --> 02:56:15,720
Speaker 1: pushed myself a long way, so I'm not on no

3461
02:56:16,080 --> 02:56:20,240
Speaker 1: victim ship. I am mad at what I see happening

3462
02:56:20,280 --> 02:56:24,320
Speaker 1: in my community and not seeing a damn finger being

3463
02:56:24,440 --> 02:56:27,800
Speaker 1: left to change what has happened, not a finger being

3464
02:56:27,879 --> 02:56:33,680
Speaker 1: left to reverse the trajectory. So if I'm loud, if

3465
02:56:33,720 --> 02:56:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm angry, if I'm aggressive, you deserve that ship. And

3466
02:56:38,640 --> 02:56:41,680
Speaker 1: I am not going to stop being what you deserve

3467
02:56:42,200 --> 02:56:45,320
Speaker 1: until you hear me, and you hear me clearly. And

3468
02:56:45,840 --> 02:56:49,080
Speaker 1: on that note again, me to Turner, I raged with

3469
02:56:49,200 --> 02:56:53,039
Speaker 1: you and sis ted. You know how much I love you.

3470
02:56:53,040 --> 02:56:55,120
Speaker 1: You know how much I adore you. You know how

3471
02:56:55,240 --> 02:56:59,320
Speaker 1: much I am just so happy to see you get

3472
02:56:59,320 --> 02:57:02,520
Speaker 1: in your fly. Was you taking your place, your voice

3473
02:57:02,600 --> 02:57:06,360
Speaker 1: being heard those who didn't know how much you move

3474
02:57:06,480 --> 02:57:10,280
Speaker 1: this shape before seeing what I saw a long time ago,

3475
02:57:10,680 --> 02:57:14,320
Speaker 1: when Boss Lady stepped up and I saw clearly who

3476
02:57:14,360 --> 02:57:17,720
Speaker 1: you were and what you were about, and our people

3477
02:57:17,760 --> 02:57:21,680
Speaker 1: were centric to what you were doing. And just to

3478
02:57:21,920 --> 02:57:25,720
Speaker 1: see everything first for you and come to fruition for you,

3479
02:57:26,240 --> 02:57:29,200
Speaker 1: it makes me happy. It makes my soul sick. So

3480
02:57:29,360 --> 02:57:32,640
Speaker 1: since keep doing what you're doing. I love and appreciate

3481
02:57:32,720 --> 02:57:35,039
Speaker 1: this space. And now I'm gonna go and love on

3482
02:57:35,080 --> 02:57:40,360
Speaker 1: my husband. But I love you, Sonny. I love you too, Sonny.

3483
02:57:40,360 --> 02:57:42,760
Speaker 1: And again, guys, you have been listening to Jeff on

3484
02:57:42,800 --> 02:57:44,480
Speaker 1: the Right, I want you to get some closing thoughts

3485
02:57:44,480 --> 02:57:46,400
Speaker 1: as well. And then I want to bring up some

3486
02:57:46,440 --> 02:57:48,680
Speaker 1: other folks whose waiting to speak is particularly because I

3487
02:57:48,720 --> 02:57:50,840
Speaker 1: don't know why that they're gonna say what no reparation

3488
02:57:50,959 --> 02:57:53,959
Speaker 1: is talking, even though Tim's reparation is in it. I

3489
02:57:54,000 --> 02:57:55,680
Speaker 1: want to bring up the man who coined the word

3490
02:57:55,720 --> 02:57:58,400
Speaker 1: reparation is dahin Um. But Jeff on the right, I

3491
02:57:58,440 --> 02:58:00,400
Speaker 1: want you to get some closing thoughts for my because

3492
02:58:00,400 --> 02:58:02,280
Speaker 1: if you need to bounce out, I get it. Thank you,

3493
02:58:02,320 --> 02:58:05,520
Speaker 1: Sonny Um. That is my sister a conservative, but I'm

3494
02:58:05,520 --> 02:58:08,400
Speaker 1: not a conservative. But we've been rocking for over decade plus.

3495
02:58:08,440 --> 02:58:10,400
Speaker 1: This is what it sounds like. Y'all want grown folks,

3496
02:58:10,480 --> 02:58:14,480
Speaker 1: grown black folks. They're serious about this ship from every ideology.

3497
02:58:14,520 --> 02:58:16,320
Speaker 1: I hope we tell a friend you've been listening to

3498
02:58:16,440 --> 02:58:18,760
Speaker 1: straight Shot and Chase on the Black effacth podcast network.

3499
02:58:19,000 --> 02:58:21,360
Speaker 1: Black Effect bounced out on us. They went on the bed.

3500
02:58:21,440 --> 02:58:23,480
Speaker 1: I told him this can go along. They but they

3501
02:58:23,560 --> 02:58:26,520
Speaker 1: got a good idea. So your message, everything, even that

3502
02:58:26,560 --> 02:58:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking now, will be on I Heart Radio for

3503
02:58:28,879 --> 02:58:31,120
Speaker 1: everybody to hear. Jeff on the Right give us some

3504
02:58:31,160 --> 02:58:33,519
Speaker 1: closing thoughts, and then I'm gonna go to the reparations

3505
02:58:33,520 --> 02:58:37,600
Speaker 1: in my hand. Yeah. So I want to continue the

3506
02:58:37,720 --> 02:58:42,160
Speaker 1: whole rage motif because I can't remember who it was earlier,

3507
02:58:42,200 --> 02:58:44,080
Speaker 1: but they brought up somebody making a comment about why

3508
02:58:44,120 --> 02:58:46,840
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be black or white. I can't tell

3509
02:58:46,920 --> 02:58:49,120
Speaker 1: you how many times I get that ship here on

3510
02:58:49,160 --> 02:58:52,160
Speaker 1: the writing and the same people who will tell me

3511
02:58:52,240 --> 02:58:55,119
Speaker 1: not to identify as black or not to talk about

3512
02:58:55,240 --> 02:58:58,880
Speaker 1: blackness are the exact same people who will quote black

3513
02:58:58,920 --> 02:59:02,080
Speaker 1: climb statistics to me, the same people who will talk

3514
02:59:02,120 --> 02:59:06,800
Speaker 1: about black fatherlessness or the abortion rate among Black Americans

3515
02:59:07,440 --> 02:59:10,879
Speaker 1: like they they see color when it fits their talking points.

3516
02:59:11,520 --> 02:59:13,560
Speaker 1: But if you want to talk about a different aspect

3517
02:59:13,760 --> 02:59:16,520
Speaker 1: of the culture, if you want to address other issues,

3518
02:59:17,080 --> 02:59:20,160
Speaker 1: now I got to be American, Now I don't. I

3519
02:59:20,160 --> 02:59:22,320
Speaker 1: don't tend to rage on the outside. I rage on

3520
02:59:22,360 --> 02:59:24,800
Speaker 1: the inside or behind closed doors. So and he can

3521
02:59:24,800 --> 02:59:26,840
Speaker 1: attest to that. I know she's not on anymore, but

3522
02:59:26,879 --> 02:59:30,000
Speaker 1: she can attest to that. But I think that that

3523
02:59:30,120 --> 02:59:33,160
Speaker 1: is a symptom of what Torn alluded to earlier. We

3524
02:59:33,240 --> 02:59:35,440
Speaker 1: have I don't care whether you're on the left or

3525
02:59:35,480 --> 02:59:38,240
Speaker 1: on the right. We have got the wrong black faces

3526
02:59:38,360 --> 02:59:42,480
Speaker 1: at the forefront because they're not talking about things that

3527
02:59:42,520 --> 02:59:45,320
Speaker 1: relate to average black people. They may talk about some

3528
02:59:45,440 --> 02:59:48,520
Speaker 1: of it, they may address some of it. But the

3529
02:59:48,600 --> 02:59:50,840
Speaker 1: reason why I get that so much is because a

3530
02:59:50,840 --> 02:59:52,560
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of the black faces on the

3531
02:59:52,640 --> 02:59:55,400
Speaker 1: right who make that okay, because they will encourage that,

3532
02:59:55,440 --> 02:59:57,440
Speaker 1: because these are the people that are being put forth

3533
02:59:57,840 --> 03:00:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm not black, I'm American. Well, well it's it's not.

3534
03:00:02,920 --> 03:00:05,039
Speaker 1: It's not exclusive. You can be black and American at

3535
03:00:05,080 --> 03:00:06,840
Speaker 1: the same time. I identify as both. I am a

3536
03:00:06,840 --> 03:00:11,160
Speaker 1: Black American, my parents, my my ancestors were brought here

3537
03:00:11,280 --> 03:00:14,119
Speaker 1: at Las. I am an American and I am also black,

3538
03:00:14,760 --> 03:00:16,520
Speaker 1: and I don't care if you see that. I don't

3539
03:00:16,520 --> 03:00:18,560
Speaker 1: need you to be color blind. I need you to

3540
03:00:18,600 --> 03:00:21,520
Speaker 1: not judge me on that. So if if you're telling

3541
03:00:21,520 --> 03:00:24,520
Speaker 1: me to just be American and not black, but then

3542
03:00:24,560 --> 03:00:27,280
Speaker 1: I see you posting what I call black man bad

3543
03:00:27,360 --> 03:00:30,680
Speaker 1: porn on Twitter, where you're posting all these videos of

3544
03:00:31,040 --> 03:00:34,840
Speaker 1: black men being violent, as if that somehow represents the

3545
03:00:34,879 --> 03:00:38,280
Speaker 1: majority of black men, then you are a fucking hypocrite

3546
03:00:38,280 --> 03:00:42,920
Speaker 1: and I don't take you seriously and I never will. Uh.

3547
03:00:42,959 --> 03:00:44,720
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say, because we were

3548
03:00:44,720 --> 03:00:47,440
Speaker 1: talking about political parties earlier, and I think it was

3549
03:00:47,760 --> 03:00:50,640
Speaker 1: Nina and some other people talking about how we shouldn't

3550
03:00:50,680 --> 03:00:55,400
Speaker 1: worship a party and that that's absolutely right. I mean,

3551
03:00:55,400 --> 03:00:59,080
Speaker 1: whether you're Democrat, Republican, or a libertarian. In this past election,

3552
03:00:59,560 --> 03:01:04,480
Speaker 1: I found myself voting more libertarian than Republican, and I'll

3553
03:01:04,520 --> 03:01:06,960
Speaker 1: probably vote for Republicans in the future, but I'll probably

3554
03:01:07,040 --> 03:01:09,959
Speaker 1: vote a lot for libertarians as well, because I identify

3555
03:01:10,000 --> 03:01:13,600
Speaker 1: as a conservative slash libertarian. If I don't feel like

3556
03:01:13,640 --> 03:01:16,000
Speaker 1: a candidate has earned my vote, I won't vote for them.

3557
03:01:16,080 --> 03:01:18,959
Speaker 1: I got that ballot box and I felt in my

3558
03:01:19,040 --> 03:01:21,000
Speaker 1: spirit that I can't put my name on somebody who

3559
03:01:21,040 --> 03:01:25,959
Speaker 1: I don't feel is doing what I feel they should do. So, Yeah,

3560
03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:28,640
Speaker 1: I voted for for Libertarians, and I'll probably do so

3561
03:01:28,720 --> 03:01:31,720
Speaker 1: in the future. But I think that we have to

3562
03:01:31,760 --> 03:01:34,600
Speaker 1: get outside of the party thinking per se. I mean,

3563
03:01:34,680 --> 03:01:37,760
Speaker 1: even if you belong to a party, that's fine, but

3564
03:01:38,240 --> 03:01:40,360
Speaker 1: when you're looking at a candidate, I'm not going to

3565
03:01:40,480 --> 03:01:42,120
Speaker 1: vote for him just because they haven't our next to

3566
03:01:42,160 --> 03:01:44,039
Speaker 1: the namber, because they have a D next to the namber,

3567
03:01:44,360 --> 03:01:46,800
Speaker 1: because they have an L next to the name. I

3568
03:01:46,840 --> 03:01:49,400
Speaker 1: do not believe that as black people we will have

3569
03:01:49,600 --> 03:01:53,520
Speaker 1: the level of political power that we want if we're

3570
03:01:54,440 --> 03:01:58,000
Speaker 1: if we're unduly loyal to a party, we're not gonna

3571
03:01:58,040 --> 03:02:01,440
Speaker 1: get much. If we're voting for Democrats all the time,

3572
03:02:01,760 --> 03:02:05,200
Speaker 1: it's just not gonna happen. Democrats can do whatever they want,

3573
03:02:05,200 --> 03:02:07,920
Speaker 1: they can say whatever ship they want because they know

3574
03:02:08,000 --> 03:02:10,200
Speaker 1: we're going to vote for him. That's why Biden got

3575
03:02:10,240 --> 03:02:11,960
Speaker 1: on that show with Charlotte men the God and said,

3576
03:02:11,959 --> 03:02:14,240
Speaker 1: if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. He

3577
03:02:14,400 --> 03:02:16,440
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna get away with that. You didn't

3578
03:02:16,440 --> 03:02:19,080
Speaker 1: care because he knew that black people were going to

3579
03:02:19,200 --> 03:02:21,359
Speaker 1: vote for him. And I get if you support his policies.

3580
03:02:21,440 --> 03:02:24,320
Speaker 1: I understand that, But at the same time, we are

3581
03:02:24,400 --> 03:02:27,039
Speaker 1: giving them permission to do that when they know that

3582
03:02:27,080 --> 03:02:29,200
Speaker 1: they're always going to get our votes. Same thing on

3583
03:02:29,240 --> 03:02:31,840
Speaker 1: the Republicans. They know that they're that they're not going

3584
03:02:31,879 --> 03:02:33,680
Speaker 1: to get our votes, so they can say whatever ship

3585
03:02:33,760 --> 03:02:36,039
Speaker 1: they want because they're not really trying to woo us.

3586
03:02:36,560 --> 03:02:39,240
Speaker 1: These parties need to be in a position where they

3587
03:02:39,280 --> 03:02:43,480
Speaker 1: are fighting over our votes, fighting aggressively over our votes,

3588
03:02:43,560 --> 03:02:47,440
Speaker 1: coming into our communities, knocking on doors. I don't want

3589
03:02:47,440 --> 03:02:49,720
Speaker 1: to see niny percent of black people vote Libertarian or

3590
03:02:49,800 --> 03:02:52,440
Speaker 1: Republican because each of those parties will do the exact

3591
03:02:52,480 --> 03:02:54,520
Speaker 1: same thing that Democrats are doing now. So it's not

3592
03:02:54,560 --> 03:02:57,840
Speaker 1: all I'm not just knocking on Democrats. But if we

3593
03:02:57,920 --> 03:03:01,080
Speaker 1: want that political power, we need more of us who

3594
03:03:01,120 --> 03:03:04,560
Speaker 1: are concerned about what we need for our communities in

3595
03:03:04,760 --> 03:03:07,320
Speaker 1: each party. We need to have our voices be strong.

3596
03:03:07,360 --> 03:03:11,280
Speaker 1: We need to infiltrate take over. I know that each

3597
03:03:11,280 --> 03:03:13,320
Speaker 1: of these parties have the black paces that they want

3598
03:03:13,320 --> 03:03:17,280
Speaker 1: better going to jibe with whatever the leadership wants. But

3599
03:03:17,920 --> 03:03:19,840
Speaker 1: we live in a different day and age right now.

3600
03:03:19,879 --> 03:03:22,600
Speaker 1: We have Twitter spaces as and can host these Twitter spaces,

3601
03:03:22,640 --> 03:03:24,959
Speaker 1: and we can all host Twitter spaces, and we've got

3602
03:03:24,959 --> 03:03:28,040
Speaker 1: other forms of media to get our voices out. And

3603
03:03:27,720 --> 03:03:31,160
Speaker 1: I really enjoy what I'm staying with this because it's

3604
03:03:31,200 --> 03:03:34,280
Speaker 1: not just up to the big box cable news outlets

3605
03:03:34,560 --> 03:03:36,680
Speaker 1: to give us the narrative that they think that we

3606
03:03:36,680 --> 03:03:40,600
Speaker 1: should have. So I just want to I'll just signed

3607
03:03:40,640 --> 03:03:43,160
Speaker 1: the plane right there. Okay, thank you. Let me just

3608
03:03:43,160 --> 03:03:45,840
Speaker 1: address a couple of comments in the room before I

3609
03:03:45,879 --> 03:03:48,360
Speaker 1: close it out at the bottom, uh taxation. I know

3610
03:03:48,440 --> 03:03:51,440
Speaker 1: you you're not being you know, facetious when you say this,

3611
03:03:51,480 --> 03:03:53,280
Speaker 1: because I know you support me UM, but you have

3612
03:03:53,320 --> 03:03:55,320
Speaker 1: made a comments saying so we're just gonna leave Governor

3613
03:03:55,320 --> 03:03:57,280
Speaker 1: Wilder out. Yet, if I guess we're gonna leave them out,

3614
03:03:57,600 --> 03:04:00,920
Speaker 1: I've already addressed that. I've said I misspoke. Sometimes guys,

3615
03:04:00,920 --> 03:04:03,640
Speaker 1: people just miss spoke. I said, I meant the first

3616
03:04:03,680 --> 03:04:07,800
Speaker 1: black governor in Maryland. I was talking about um, the

3617
03:04:07,840 --> 03:04:10,280
Speaker 1: first black governor. Mayor you Westmore. I wasn't meaning to

3618
03:04:10,360 --> 03:04:12,560
Speaker 1: leave out Governor Wilders. So again, this is kind of

3619
03:04:12,560 --> 03:04:15,320
Speaker 1: my point. Sometimes guys just give grace to somebody that

3620
03:04:15,400 --> 03:04:18,920
Speaker 1: does a misspeak. You know, I misspoke and I corrected it. Um.

3621
03:04:18,959 --> 03:04:21,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we love just you know,

3622
03:04:21,200 --> 03:04:24,760
Speaker 1: not you. But sitting back waiting to see ohment, she

3623
03:04:24,760 --> 03:04:26,640
Speaker 1: said this and said that I'm pretty good at this

3624
03:04:26,720 --> 03:04:28,920
Speaker 1: talk game. I've been doing this for four hour. We're

3625
03:04:28,920 --> 03:04:30,720
Speaker 1: coming up on the third or fourth hour, and I

3626
03:04:31,040 --> 03:04:33,440
Speaker 1: think I've been pretty you know, seamless and what I've

3627
03:04:33,480 --> 03:04:36,440
Speaker 1: been saying. So if I made that one era uh

3628
03:04:36,480 --> 03:04:39,120
Speaker 1: and that offending anybody, again, I cleared it up, and

3629
03:04:39,120 --> 03:04:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad the person um brought my attention to that.

3630
03:04:42,160 --> 03:04:45,400
Speaker 1: But sometimes you just you talk fast and you make

3631
03:04:45,440 --> 03:04:47,720
Speaker 1: a misstep. And so that's that's all. That was the

3632
03:04:47,800 --> 03:04:50,440
Speaker 1: point I was making. What that was that we don't

3633
03:04:50,520 --> 03:04:53,680
Speaker 1: have enough black governors, which means that sometimes it's not

3634
03:04:53,760 --> 03:04:57,160
Speaker 1: about sex meaning of the first black female government governor

3635
03:04:57,200 --> 03:04:59,480
Speaker 1: because we don't have the first black female governor. The point,

3636
03:04:59,520 --> 03:05:02,240
Speaker 1: the main idea of that was not about while there

3637
03:05:02,280 --> 03:05:04,640
Speaker 1: are west More. The point I was making is we

3638
03:05:04,720 --> 03:05:07,879
Speaker 1: don't have enough black governance. So again, a lot of

3639
03:05:07,879 --> 03:05:09,680
Speaker 1: times we just kind of netpick at each other by

3640
03:05:09,720 --> 03:05:11,320
Speaker 1: saying you're doing that. But it's just kind of an

3641
03:05:11,360 --> 03:05:15,840
Speaker 1: example of why, you know, Twitter spaces and um, social

3642
03:05:15,879 --> 03:05:18,440
Speaker 1: media can get so frustrating because people hear one thing

3643
03:05:18,440 --> 03:05:20,120
Speaker 1: and they're kind of wrong with it, like forgetting the

3644
03:05:20,160 --> 03:05:23,200
Speaker 1: main idea of the main idea was we need more

3645
03:05:23,240 --> 03:05:25,960
Speaker 1: black governance. Now, if I didn't say say that, somebody

3646
03:05:25,959 --> 03:05:29,000
Speaker 1: would have said, she, you're saying we don't have no

3647
03:05:29,120 --> 03:05:31,720
Speaker 1: black you know what you're saying, uh that you you

3648
03:05:31,800 --> 03:05:34,200
Speaker 1: must be misogynists because you don't want black women. I

3649
03:05:34,280 --> 03:05:37,000
Speaker 1: was trying to make the point that race is more

3650
03:05:37,040 --> 03:05:40,440
Speaker 1: important of racism issue over gender. If I didn't say that,

3651
03:05:40,480 --> 03:05:42,360
Speaker 1: y'all would say, I'm a feminist, you ain't nothing but

3652
03:05:42,400 --> 03:05:44,640
Speaker 1: a feminist and you say this so that so it's

3653
03:05:44,680 --> 03:05:46,879
Speaker 1: kind of like you can't please everybody in this space.

3654
03:05:46,920 --> 03:05:49,279
Speaker 1: So just bear with me, try to sell some grace,

3655
03:05:49,720 --> 03:05:52,120
Speaker 1: and just try to understand that the main idea of

3656
03:05:52,160 --> 03:05:55,720
Speaker 1: this was to bring different ideologies together. Another point that

3657
03:05:55,760 --> 03:05:57,720
Speaker 1: I know Nina said that I don't want anybody's taking

3658
03:05:57,720 --> 03:05:59,240
Speaker 1: that and running with that when she said we are

3659
03:05:59,320 --> 03:06:03,000
Speaker 1: monolist monolithic because we vote like that. She wasn't saying

3660
03:06:03,360 --> 03:06:05,720
Speaker 1: we need to be a monolithic. She was saying that

3661
03:06:05,879 --> 03:06:09,760
Speaker 1: we need to stop being voting for the same thing.

3662
03:06:10,160 --> 03:06:12,359
Speaker 1: And we talked a lot about how we in the Monolithic,

3663
03:06:12,400 --> 03:06:14,560
Speaker 1: we and the monolithic, but the results make the damn

3664
03:06:14,640 --> 03:06:16,879
Speaker 1: show look like we are so what she was saying,

3665
03:06:16,920 --> 03:06:19,080
Speaker 1: what that was was a way of pointing out that

3666
03:06:19,160 --> 03:06:21,440
Speaker 1: we don't need to all be the same, which was

3667
03:06:21,480 --> 03:06:23,879
Speaker 1: the point of this space. So I hope you guys

3668
03:06:23,959 --> 03:06:26,080
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. And I always try to clear receipts, you know,

3669
03:06:26,160 --> 03:06:28,200
Speaker 1: little things like that, and people are telling me you

3670
03:06:28,240 --> 03:06:30,000
Speaker 1: don't have to do that, don't say that, don't address

3671
03:06:30,000 --> 03:06:32,440
Speaker 1: the hate us. No, I like to address it because

3672
03:06:32,440 --> 03:06:33,879
Speaker 1: I like to put it on the record because I

3673
03:06:33,879 --> 03:06:35,800
Speaker 1: do believe that there's some people that give a damn

3674
03:06:35,840 --> 03:06:38,040
Speaker 1: about facts and will correct stuff. Every now and then.

3675
03:06:38,240 --> 03:06:40,160
Speaker 1: People hear what they want and they run with it.

3676
03:06:40,400 --> 03:06:42,720
Speaker 1: And being one of the people that are docs like

3677
03:06:42,800 --> 03:06:44,959
Speaker 1: the rest of my Panels's friend today, the docks people

3678
03:06:45,000 --> 03:06:46,760
Speaker 1: in the building, they use their first and last name.

3679
03:06:47,000 --> 03:06:48,880
Speaker 1: People take stuff and they run with it, they make

3680
03:06:49,000 --> 03:06:51,680
Speaker 1: articles about it. We have all had our turn with it,

3681
03:06:52,080 --> 03:06:55,160
Speaker 1: make articles they take Nina said, they tried to take

3682
03:06:55,200 --> 03:06:57,840
Speaker 1: my income. They did take my income. They were successful

3683
03:06:57,879 --> 03:07:01,000
Speaker 1: at them. So you know, there's real consequences to go

3684
03:07:01,120 --> 03:07:03,120
Speaker 1: through that. And it's not saying that I'm better than

3685
03:07:03,160 --> 03:07:06,200
Speaker 1: anybody or that I'm more realer than anybody. I'm just

3686
03:07:06,240 --> 03:07:08,720
Speaker 1: saying we all play game. We all are pushing for

3687
03:07:08,800 --> 03:07:10,680
Speaker 1: the same win at the end of the day. But

3688
03:07:10,760 --> 03:07:13,000
Speaker 1: it is important to recognize that people play the game

3689
03:07:13,040 --> 03:07:16,439
Speaker 1: at different levels. Everybody is not at the at uh

3690
03:07:16,560 --> 03:07:20,320
Speaker 1: the batter. Everybody is not the picture, everybody is not

3691
03:07:20,520 --> 03:07:23,279
Speaker 1: in the stands. We play different levels, and the closer

3692
03:07:23,320 --> 03:07:25,360
Speaker 1: you get to that ball hitting you in your eye,

3693
03:07:26,280 --> 03:07:28,800
Speaker 1: the closer you get to the ball hitting you in

3694
03:07:28,840 --> 03:07:32,400
Speaker 1: your face, it's totally different than being way in the

3695
03:07:32,440 --> 03:07:35,800
Speaker 1: stands at the top and and not having to deal

3696
03:07:36,120 --> 03:07:38,760
Speaker 1: with the consequences. So that's why I talk with my

3697
03:07:38,879 --> 03:07:41,480
Speaker 1: chest out and why I talk to Ship. I do because,

3698
03:07:41,640 --> 03:07:43,959
Speaker 1: like Sunny said, the more Ship you go through, the

3699
03:07:44,040 --> 03:07:47,039
Speaker 1: more aggressive you talk. It's not being masculine, it's not

3700
03:07:47,160 --> 03:07:49,879
Speaker 1: trying to take over beat this or beat that. It's

3701
03:07:49,920 --> 03:07:52,600
Speaker 1: just out of being through some things. And so when

3702
03:07:52,600 --> 03:07:54,280
Speaker 1: you know I'm being through some things you kind of

3703
03:07:54,320 --> 03:07:55,920
Speaker 1: talk with a little bit, you know, more chest that.

3704
03:07:56,000 --> 03:07:58,200
Speaker 1: But one thing for sure, I love my black people

3705
03:07:58,360 --> 03:07:59,920
Speaker 1: and even if you don't like me, I love your

3706
03:08:00,040 --> 03:08:02,520
Speaker 1: ass anyway, because it ain't about you. I'm fighting for

3707
03:08:02,600 --> 03:08:05,880
Speaker 1: my people. Um Um. Thank you to my panelists that

3708
03:08:06,080 --> 03:08:08,080
Speaker 1: took out time. It was supposed to be two hours.

3709
03:08:08,120 --> 03:08:11,240
Speaker 1: You've been here this whole time. I'm really surprised because

3710
03:08:11,240 --> 03:08:14,120
Speaker 1: this past your bedtime needs you. Really, I'm surprised you

3711
03:08:14,200 --> 03:08:16,720
Speaker 1: don't rock this long, um, But thank you to everybody.

3712
03:08:16,920 --> 03:08:19,400
Speaker 1: To the speakers, you're welcome to still stay. But I

3713
03:08:19,440 --> 03:08:21,080
Speaker 1: did want to, you know, bring up a couple of

3714
03:08:21,120 --> 03:08:23,160
Speaker 1: the people that I know that are not trolls. But

3715
03:08:23,200 --> 03:08:24,600
Speaker 1: if you are a speaker and you want to dip

3716
03:08:24,640 --> 03:08:27,840
Speaker 1: out the room, you can. Um. Also for those who

3717
03:08:27,840 --> 03:08:30,800
Speaker 1: are speaking, I'm still recording. This is still being recorded.

3718
03:08:30,800 --> 03:08:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna uploaded to our heart if you want

3719
03:08:33,600 --> 03:08:36,080
Speaker 1: to hear this episode again, it will will be here

3720
03:08:36,120 --> 03:08:38,480
Speaker 1: on Twitter as well, and my producer is going to

3721
03:08:38,680 --> 03:08:41,080
Speaker 1: upload this to I Heart radio in the morning and

3722
03:08:41,120 --> 03:08:43,320
Speaker 1: I'll send you know the link as well so that

3723
03:08:43,360 --> 03:08:45,760
Speaker 1: you'll have that. So again, you've been listening to the

3724
03:08:45,760 --> 03:08:47,880
Speaker 1: straight shot no chase of podcast hosted about Tess and

3725
03:08:47,920 --> 03:08:51,440
Speaker 1: Figure The Official Black Effect. I heard radio podcast during

3726
03:08:51,440 --> 03:08:54,960
Speaker 1: a mid term I hope you uh put a heart

3727
03:08:55,000 --> 03:08:57,720
Speaker 1: up if you enjoyed hearing from the speakers from different

3728
03:08:57,720 --> 03:09:01,600
Speaker 1: ideologies that understanding that we are are in different places. Also,

3729
03:09:01,720 --> 03:09:03,120
Speaker 1: I need you to put a fist up if you

3730
03:09:03,200 --> 03:09:05,760
Speaker 1: understand that I don't give a damn. If you didn't

3731
03:09:05,760 --> 03:09:07,600
Speaker 1: like everybody on the stage. Let me say it one

3732
03:09:07,640 --> 03:09:10,039
Speaker 1: more time, put a fist up if you know that

3733
03:09:10,200 --> 03:09:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't give a dam If you didn't like everybody

3734
03:09:13,480 --> 03:09:16,400
Speaker 1: on the stage, you could have your critiques. You could say, well,

3735
03:09:16,520 --> 03:09:18,840
Speaker 1: they don't be black enough. They should have did this,

3736
03:09:18,840 --> 03:09:21,080
Speaker 1: they should have did that. I don't have no problem

3737
03:09:21,120 --> 03:09:23,040
Speaker 1: with you having a problem with nobody on the stage.

3738
03:09:23,400 --> 03:09:25,720
Speaker 1: The thing about this was because, guess what it is,

3739
03:09:25,760 --> 03:09:27,959
Speaker 1: somebody got a problem with me too. The point I

3740
03:09:28,000 --> 03:09:31,200
Speaker 1: wanted you to hear from today was from every ideology

3741
03:09:31,240 --> 03:09:34,400
Speaker 1: that actually worked on campaigns and could bring you some data,

3742
03:09:34,480 --> 03:09:37,119
Speaker 1: some talking points so that you can have it as

3743
03:09:37,160 --> 03:09:40,240
Speaker 1: you continue on. I love spaces where people give opinion

3744
03:09:40,280 --> 03:09:42,320
Speaker 1: and give insight. I didn't rock with y'all for eleven

3745
03:09:42,360 --> 03:09:44,960
Speaker 1: twelve hours before on spaces, but this particular one, I

3746
03:09:45,000 --> 03:09:47,879
Speaker 1: wanted to give um some data. And that's why I

3747
03:09:47,879 --> 03:09:51,600
Speaker 1: did it on Thursday and not Wednesday because Wednesday folks

3748
03:09:51,600 --> 03:09:53,400
Speaker 1: were still running around, And I didn't do it on

3749
03:09:53,400 --> 03:09:56,120
Speaker 1: Tuesday because Tuesday they were still blaming black men without

3750
03:09:56,160 --> 03:09:58,240
Speaker 1: having a damn data. So I just like to have

3751
03:09:58,280 --> 03:10:01,120
Speaker 1: facts and receipts before I bring people together. And I said, no,

3752
03:10:01,200 --> 03:10:03,000
Speaker 1: let me do a Thursday so we can kind of

3753
03:10:03,080 --> 03:10:05,120
Speaker 1: let this sit a moment and get some let you know,

3754
03:10:05,200 --> 03:10:07,720
Speaker 1: let the facts kind of process. And I wanted to

3755
03:10:07,760 --> 03:10:10,520
Speaker 1: listen to what everybody had to say the last two

3756
03:10:10,600 --> 03:10:13,200
Speaker 1: days so that when we have this space, I can say, hey,

3757
03:10:13,200 --> 03:10:15,080
Speaker 1: based on what I've been here in the last two days,

3758
03:10:15,240 --> 03:10:16,720
Speaker 1: you don't kind of let the ship hit the fan

3759
03:10:16,840 --> 03:10:18,960
Speaker 1: for a minute, kind of move a little bit slow.

3760
03:10:19,240 --> 03:10:21,959
Speaker 1: Stop being so quick to speak. Don't be quick to speak,

3761
03:10:22,240 --> 03:10:24,480
Speaker 1: be slow to speak and quick to move. You may

3762
03:10:24,560 --> 03:10:27,360
Speaker 1: think I speak slow, slow, quickly, but actually I don't

3763
03:10:27,440 --> 03:10:29,400
Speaker 1: actually move very strategic. And so it's a whole bunch

3764
03:10:29,440 --> 03:10:31,800
Speaker 1: of ships I don't say in the public space. And

3765
03:10:31,840 --> 03:10:33,640
Speaker 1: so I wanted that to kind of land and kind

3766
03:10:33,640 --> 03:10:35,440
Speaker 1: of settle in, you know, like the dressing the day

3767
03:10:35,440 --> 03:10:37,879
Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving tastes better the day after than the first

3768
03:10:38,000 --> 03:10:39,879
Speaker 1: because the season and kind of you know, get in

3769
03:10:39,920 --> 03:10:41,800
Speaker 1: it real good. So that's why I wanted to have

3770
03:10:41,840 --> 03:10:44,400
Speaker 1: this conversation on Thursday, not because I wanted to be

3771
03:10:44,440 --> 03:10:46,160
Speaker 1: the first one to speak. I see that a lot

3772
03:10:46,200 --> 03:10:48,160
Speaker 1: with this tow the spaces. You speak in every space,

3773
03:10:48,360 --> 03:10:50,520
Speaker 1: You're raised your hand in every space. We got something

3774
03:10:50,560 --> 03:10:52,520
Speaker 1: to say in every space. As soon as the election

3775
03:10:52,640 --> 03:10:56,160
Speaker 1: was open, the thousand spaces open up. Everybody had commentary,

3776
03:10:56,160 --> 03:10:59,280
Speaker 1: didn't have no pole, exuppose, didn't know what the hell was.

3777
03:10:59,280 --> 03:11:01,680
Speaker 1: What just couldn't wait to get on and laying their

3778
03:11:01,680 --> 03:11:04,840
Speaker 1: plane and rode a boat and and tote they note

3779
03:11:04,920 --> 03:11:07,680
Speaker 1: and whatever this ship y'all say, and uh, get on

3780
03:11:07,720 --> 03:11:10,560
Speaker 1: their horse. I'll land my horse there, I'll park my

3781
03:11:10,760 --> 03:11:13,920
Speaker 1: car here, I'll land my plane. Folks couldn't wait to

3782
03:11:13,920 --> 03:11:17,280
Speaker 1: get in the damn plane. Information wrong as hell. So

3783
03:11:17,440 --> 03:11:20,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to wait on Thursday so that we

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03:11:20,080 --> 03:11:22,240
Speaker 1: could actually know what the hell we're talking about. So

3785
03:11:22,280 --> 03:11:23,800
Speaker 1: we know a little bit more than what we knew

3786
03:11:23,800 --> 03:11:26,600
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. And what we damned so know is the

3787
03:11:26,640 --> 03:11:29,800
Speaker 1: Republicans and the Democrats don't know who's in charge of

3788
03:11:29,840 --> 03:11:32,680
Speaker 1: what because it's still wide open. We know we're going

3789
03:11:32,720 --> 03:11:34,520
Speaker 1: to a runoff. We didn't know that if pauld have

3790
03:11:34,600 --> 03:11:37,320
Speaker 1: did that space on Tuesday that everybody would have jumped in.

3791
03:11:37,400 --> 03:11:40,840
Speaker 1: We'll see what it happened. Was you know what, Bobby,

3792
03:11:40,920 --> 03:11:43,879
Speaker 1: what happened? But don't live in Georgia. Ain't worked on

3793
03:11:43,920 --> 03:11:47,080
Speaker 1: no campaigns, don't know what went behind the scenes, don't

3794
03:11:47,120 --> 03:11:49,400
Speaker 1: have a pole data just going by what you're here

3795
03:11:49,400 --> 03:11:51,640
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and Twitter ain't real life. I got news

3796
03:11:51,680 --> 03:11:53,000
Speaker 1: for you. It ain't real life. It's not that I

3797
03:11:53,000 --> 03:11:55,640
Speaker 1: don't think your opinion is important, because it is, but

3798
03:11:55,760 --> 03:11:58,959
Speaker 1: sometimes you need to separate the conversations from just talking

3799
03:11:59,360 --> 03:12:01,080
Speaker 1: and really just trying to look at things from an

3800
03:12:01,120 --> 03:12:03,760
Speaker 1: ejective standpoint. And that was my goal here today for

3801
03:12:03,800 --> 03:12:06,080
Speaker 1: you to hear from different people. I think I've allowed,

3802
03:12:06,280 --> 03:12:09,440
Speaker 1: uh not allowed, but given an opportunity for all of

3803
03:12:09,440 --> 03:12:11,280
Speaker 1: the speakers to leave your closing thoughts. So if you

3804
03:12:11,320 --> 03:12:13,800
Speaker 1: want to bounce out, you certainly can, um, but I

3805
03:12:13,879 --> 03:12:16,120
Speaker 1: am gonna continue on because I do want people to

3806
03:12:16,200 --> 03:12:18,720
Speaker 1: hear that some people that send a thing they wanted

3807
03:12:18,760 --> 03:12:21,600
Speaker 1: to talk and they they're welcome to and this also

3808
03:12:21,760 --> 03:12:24,040
Speaker 1: give you. You know, some folks, unless they can be talking,

3809
03:12:24,040 --> 03:12:25,879
Speaker 1: they don't want to be in the wrong. And so

3810
03:12:26,080 --> 03:12:28,920
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta be in position of listening to so

3811
03:12:29,000 --> 03:12:31,800
Speaker 1: not always to be talking all the time. Sometimes you

3812
03:12:31,800 --> 03:12:33,840
Speaker 1: can listen. And most of the spaces I'm me and

3813
03:12:33,879 --> 03:12:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm listening. I'm not talking. Every space ain't for you

3814
03:12:36,560 --> 03:12:39,000
Speaker 1: to talk. Just listen. Some damn time you might learn

3815
03:12:39,080 --> 03:12:41,080
Speaker 1: something like my grandma would say, thank you so much

3816
03:12:41,080 --> 03:12:43,120
Speaker 1: speakers if you want to tap out. But other than that,

3817
03:12:43,160 --> 03:12:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go straight to Nahie. The reparation is because uh,

3818
03:12:46,920 --> 03:12:50,640
Speaker 1: and this is just an inside joke in the reparations movement, guys, um,

3819
03:12:50,680 --> 03:12:52,720
Speaker 1: they always want to make sure reparationist is on the

3820
03:12:52,760 --> 03:12:56,279
Speaker 1: stage and says Tim Broader, reparations, and I brought it reparations.

3821
03:12:56,440 --> 03:13:00,360
Speaker 1: I didn't want to close this out without a reparationists speaking,

3822
03:13:00,400 --> 03:13:03,400
Speaker 1: because you know, they say only reparationists could speak. And

3823
03:13:03,480 --> 03:13:06,440
Speaker 1: even though we all qualified, because I qualified reparations, whether

3824
03:13:06,480 --> 03:13:09,000
Speaker 1: you'll say I'm litening or not, I qualified for reparations.

3825
03:13:09,040 --> 03:13:11,440
Speaker 1: Both my parents are FBA, by the way, But I

3826
03:13:11,480 --> 03:13:13,680
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that there was a reparation and

3827
03:13:13,720 --> 03:13:15,400
Speaker 1: so that they didn't have to open up twenty more

3828
03:13:15,440 --> 03:13:17,640
Speaker 1: spaces after this saying you know, well, you know she

3829
03:13:17,680 --> 03:13:20,160
Speaker 1: didn't have no reparations on the panel, and Tim brought

3830
03:13:20,240 --> 03:13:22,959
Speaker 1: up reparations even though Tim as a reparation is fighting

3831
03:13:22,959 --> 03:13:25,680
Speaker 1: his ass off in the progressive movement for reparations. I

3832
03:13:25,720 --> 03:13:27,200
Speaker 1: had to make sure I brought up the man who

3833
03:13:27,240 --> 03:13:31,640
Speaker 1: actually coined the name reparations. He goes by Nahin. Like

3834
03:13:31,680 --> 03:13:34,440
Speaker 1: they say in the Twitter space world, welcome to the space.

3835
03:13:36,480 --> 03:13:39,400
Speaker 1: Thank you for in writing the up since UM shout

3836
03:13:39,400 --> 03:13:44,160
Speaker 1: out to the panel. Powerful, powerful discussion. And you know,

3837
03:13:45,240 --> 03:13:49,440
Speaker 1: our people that are in these Twitter spaces that are

3838
03:13:49,520 --> 03:13:53,959
Speaker 1: not at that level, I need to hear spaces like this.

3839
03:13:54,040 --> 03:13:57,920
Speaker 1: They need to understand the in the workings of things

3840
03:13:58,000 --> 03:14:00,920
Speaker 1: that go on behind the scenes that they have absolutely

3841
03:14:01,440 --> 03:14:04,680
Speaker 1: no idea about. So, I mean, this was just a powerful,

3842
03:14:05,120 --> 03:14:09,279
Speaker 1: powerful space for those of us who have political aspirations

3843
03:14:09,320 --> 03:14:11,640
Speaker 1: and are trying to make our way in this space.

3844
03:14:12,280 --> 03:14:15,600
Speaker 1: My name is Nahaim. I'm the co founder of Be

3845
03:14:15,760 --> 03:14:20,000
Speaker 1: the Power and the United Sons and Daughters of Freeman UM.

3846
03:14:20,240 --> 03:14:22,480
Speaker 1: That's our fiber one C three. I'm a plug that

3847
03:14:22,520 --> 03:14:25,280
Speaker 1: I never really do and I need to start doing

3848
03:14:25,280 --> 03:14:27,959
Speaker 1: it more. Our website is U s A d O

3849
03:14:28,160 --> 03:14:31,560
Speaker 1: F dot org. And I just let me just speak

3850
03:14:31,600 --> 03:14:36,000
Speaker 1: to the real quick the reparation this thing, because when

3851
03:14:36,080 --> 03:14:39,440
Speaker 1: I say I coined the term, I didn't invent the term, right,

3852
03:14:39,760 --> 03:14:43,120
Speaker 1: you can coin a term which means using it in

3853
03:14:43,240 --> 03:14:46,160
Speaker 1: a different way for the first time. And that's what

3854
03:14:46,360 --> 03:14:49,200
Speaker 1: we did a couple of years ago, where it was

3855
03:14:49,240 --> 03:14:53,640
Speaker 1: a term that was for a whole movement as opposed

3856
03:14:53,760 --> 03:14:58,480
Speaker 1: to just an individual fighting for reparations. And one of

3857
03:14:58,520 --> 03:15:00,080
Speaker 1: the things that I said when we did our a

3858
03:15:00,160 --> 03:15:03,400
Speaker 1: livestream on I would be the power YouTube channel. I'm

3859
03:15:03,480 --> 03:15:09,720
Speaker 1: doing some plugs here was that, Um, it didn't matter

3860
03:15:09,760 --> 03:15:12,240
Speaker 1: if you are a Republican or a Democrat. If you

3861
03:15:12,280 --> 03:15:15,760
Speaker 1: were fighting for reparations, you are a reparationist. It didn't

3862
03:15:15,800 --> 03:15:18,560
Speaker 1: matter if you were black or white. If you were

3863
03:15:18,640 --> 03:15:24,680
Speaker 1: fighting for reparations, you are a reparationist. Conservative. Literally, you

3864
03:15:24,760 --> 03:15:28,440
Speaker 1: fight for reparations, you are a reparationist. You know a

3865
03:15:28,440 --> 03:15:32,360
Speaker 1: lot of people get that confused on what a reparation

3866
03:15:32,480 --> 03:15:37,199
Speaker 1: is is. So as the person that made that term popular,

3867
03:15:37,360 --> 03:15:40,080
Speaker 1: myself and my team be the power. Shout out to

3868
03:15:40,120 --> 03:15:42,520
Speaker 1: my brother. I'll leave my brother Jos, my brother Logic

3869
03:15:42,879 --> 03:15:45,680
Speaker 1: and my brother Grim. You know, we I wanted to

3870
03:15:45,720 --> 03:15:49,320
Speaker 1: clear the air on on that real quick. And I'll

3871
03:15:49,440 --> 03:15:55,160
Speaker 1: just save this lastly. Um this reparation is grass Route,

3872
03:15:55,440 --> 03:16:00,000
Speaker 1: as it's been called. It's sort of like a combat

3873
03:16:00,160 --> 03:16:08,120
Speaker 1: nation of the movement and Maga. I know that sounds

3874
03:16:08,120 --> 03:16:11,680
Speaker 1: a little weird, but follow follow the logic in many

3875
03:16:11,800 --> 03:16:16,680
Speaker 1: instances because Sunny talked about the disorganized MAGA folks, but

3876
03:16:16,680 --> 03:16:19,160
Speaker 1: they you know, they're gonna get behind the people that

3877
03:16:19,240 --> 03:16:22,000
Speaker 1: they that they get behind. You look at the ninety

3878
03:16:22,120 --> 03:16:27,800
Speaker 1: nine and and the Maga movement is really a uh

3879
03:16:28,440 --> 03:16:32,160
Speaker 1: rebirth of the Tea Party movement, at least that's my perspective.

3880
03:16:32,520 --> 03:16:35,480
Speaker 1: And then you have the ninetent movement because a lot

3881
03:16:35,520 --> 03:16:41,160
Speaker 1: of our core values, they can be seen on both

3882
03:16:41,480 --> 03:16:45,520
Speaker 1: political platforms, on on the right and on the left,

3883
03:16:45,560 --> 03:16:50,000
Speaker 1: with many of us obviously leaning a little more conservative.

3884
03:16:50,320 --> 03:16:54,640
Speaker 1: So I say that to say I was watching CNN

3885
03:16:55,920 --> 03:17:00,600
Speaker 1: one year when the movement was popping off and Van

3886
03:17:00,800 --> 03:17:02,800
Speaker 1: Jones was on and they was asking him what his

3887
03:17:02,879 --> 03:17:07,280
Speaker 1: thoughts was, and he said, you know, if they can

3888
03:17:07,720 --> 03:17:13,240
Speaker 1: leverage that power into political power, they will be a

3889
03:17:13,280 --> 03:17:16,280
Speaker 1: force in this nation. And what he was doing was

3890
03:17:16,440 --> 03:17:20,160
Speaker 1: making a comparison to to the Tea Party, and of course,

3891
03:17:20,360 --> 03:17:23,000
Speaker 1: you know Van Jones being on the left, he looked

3892
03:17:23,040 --> 03:17:28,760
Speaker 1: at that movement as something that the left could promote

3893
03:17:29,080 --> 03:17:33,120
Speaker 1: and pumped up to counter what was going on with

3894
03:17:33,240 --> 03:17:36,359
Speaker 1: the Tea Party. So I'm talking to the talking heads

3895
03:17:36,480 --> 03:17:40,200
Speaker 1: right now, those people that have way more experience in

3896
03:17:40,320 --> 03:17:43,800
Speaker 1: this than we have. You know, take take a listen

3897
03:17:43,879 --> 03:17:46,000
Speaker 1: to some of the things that we're saying. We're not

3898
03:17:46,680 --> 03:17:50,119
Speaker 1: we're not um as sharp as you are, a law,

3899
03:17:50,480 --> 03:17:54,199
Speaker 1: but some of us we were pretty okay in this space.

3900
03:17:54,240 --> 03:17:58,240
Speaker 1: And that's all I had to say. Oh wait, wait,

3901
03:17:58,240 --> 03:18:00,240
Speaker 1: one more thing. I want to give a shot out.

3902
03:18:00,320 --> 03:18:03,640
Speaker 1: The sister Lyon is in the building. She UH is

3903
03:18:03,720 --> 03:18:09,760
Speaker 1: down at the UH panel discussion that Narkin and Cobra

3904
03:18:09,920 --> 03:18:14,560
Speaker 1: and Roland Martin and the whole host of Democrats Black

3905
03:18:14,560 --> 03:18:17,760
Speaker 1: Democrats are hosting. My brother Josh is down there. They

3906
03:18:17,840 --> 03:18:20,400
Speaker 1: got a chance to meet up. And you know, we're

3907
03:18:20,440 --> 03:18:22,680
Speaker 1: trying to build. And one of the things that I

3908
03:18:22,840 --> 03:18:25,560
Speaker 1: said was to assist the lying this in the back

3909
03:18:25,680 --> 03:18:30,000
Speaker 1: channel was I mean, sister Tesla space right now, and

3910
03:18:30,040 --> 03:18:34,959
Speaker 1: I said, the associations that we are creating We're gonna

3911
03:18:35,040 --> 03:18:38,039
Speaker 1: be this next class of the people who that sister

3912
03:18:38,120 --> 03:18:40,600
Speaker 1: tests got up on this stage. So I just want

3913
03:18:40,640 --> 03:18:42,480
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to you know, just all

3914
03:18:42,480 --> 03:18:45,360
Speaker 1: the family that's in the building. Brother Divine, I see you,

3915
03:18:45,440 --> 03:18:50,000
Speaker 1: my brother, I leave, uh, my sister Shawnta, all of

3916
03:18:50,040 --> 03:18:53,280
Speaker 1: the United Stuns and Daughters of Freeman of course my organization,

3917
03:18:53,320 --> 03:18:56,800
Speaker 1: and all of those that that shout and represent the

3918
03:18:56,840 --> 03:19:01,160
Speaker 1: American Freeman. Peace and thanks much and we can keep going,

3919
03:19:01,520 --> 03:19:03,520
Speaker 1: uh touring. You said you was gonna leave a long

3920
03:19:03,560 --> 03:19:05,080
Speaker 1: time ago, but I love that you're still here. But

3921
03:19:05,120 --> 03:19:07,560
Speaker 1: we can keep going. Um. For those that actually have

3922
03:19:07,640 --> 03:19:10,320
Speaker 1: access to my inbox that no meat uh, or you

3923
03:19:10,320 --> 03:19:11,600
Speaker 1: don't have on the inbox, you can say it on

3924
03:19:11,640 --> 03:19:13,119
Speaker 1: the speaker if you want me to ask somebody, because

3925
03:19:13,120 --> 03:19:14,959
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know who these trolls are, like

3926
03:19:15,040 --> 03:19:17,560
Speaker 1: whoever it is down in the common this troll in person.

3927
03:19:17,800 --> 03:19:20,160
Speaker 1: Damn Watches were talking for an hour about her resume.

3928
03:19:20,200 --> 03:19:22,359
Speaker 1: She'd be rambling because I got a long ass resume.

3929
03:19:22,440 --> 03:19:25,240
Speaker 1: Home and if I and if I really talked about yes,

3930
03:19:25,280 --> 03:19:28,720
Speaker 1: I said home in case anybody didn't hear them repeat it, um,

3931
03:19:28,800 --> 03:19:30,680
Speaker 1: and if I really talked about my resume. It would

3932
03:19:30,680 --> 03:19:33,959
Speaker 1: go on for days and hours and months and years,

3933
03:19:34,400 --> 03:19:36,560
Speaker 1: and so if you don't like it, move out the way.

3934
03:19:36,600 --> 03:19:40,560
Speaker 1: I noticed, y'all, I noticed that Twitter is real anti resume. Uh.

3935
03:19:40,600 --> 03:19:42,120
Speaker 1: The reason why it's because people like just to be

3936
03:19:42,160 --> 03:19:44,119
Speaker 1: talking to me talking, And anytime people got a problem

3937
03:19:44,160 --> 03:19:46,560
Speaker 1: a resume, I noticed they said that about the rally too. Well,

3938
03:19:46,560 --> 03:19:48,440
Speaker 1: maybe because I have a resume, that's why I can

3939
03:19:48,440 --> 03:19:50,959
Speaker 1: talk about it. And so and the other person, the

3940
03:19:51,000 --> 03:19:53,400
Speaker 1: other troll who literally go by troll names and never

3941
03:19:53,400 --> 03:19:55,440
Speaker 1: would go by their first and last name to the

3942
03:19:55,480 --> 03:19:57,480
Speaker 1: other person that said, yeah, just get to it where

3943
03:19:57,480 --> 03:19:59,440
Speaker 1: you can, just get to getting off this page. I

3944
03:19:59,560 --> 03:20:02,600
Speaker 1: talked as long as I won't, how long I won't,

3945
03:20:02,680 --> 03:20:05,039
Speaker 1: and how I want, And that's the bottom line. And

3946
03:20:05,120 --> 03:20:07,840
Speaker 1: until you g up and put your real pitch and

3947
03:20:07,879 --> 03:20:09,879
Speaker 1: put your name, put your name, you don't address me.

3948
03:20:10,120 --> 03:20:12,360
Speaker 1: You stay in a little homeless place. I'm the big homie.

3949
03:20:12,360 --> 03:20:14,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you when to speak and when not to speak.

3950
03:20:14,920 --> 03:20:19,119
Speaker 1: So with that said, I'm okay with continuing this conversation

3951
03:20:19,240 --> 03:20:23,920
Speaker 1: on um. I'm a right to midnight and give a

3952
03:20:23,959 --> 03:20:26,080
Speaker 1: hard stop that espially, I'm good. I couldn't get Away,

3953
03:20:26,680 --> 03:20:30,039
Speaker 1: No Problem. Thank you everybody who's been listening to the

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Speaker 1: straight Shot No Chaser podcast on the I Heart Radio.

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