1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Also, by the way, for a very long stretch of time, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: I was convinced that we were calling you button McGee. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Are you serious? 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I remember one day being like, oh, 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: it's button, button McGee. 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: I knew it was about the button, but then I 8 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 3: thought everyone was being. 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 4: But McGee. 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: More Better, More Better. Welcome to More Better, a podcast about, 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: you know, getting better at stuff, and we stop pretending 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: that we have it all together. 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: And sometimes we embrace the journey of becoming a little 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: more better every day. 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: Maybe today is the day. Maybe that's Melissapa. 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Marrow and that's Stephanie Biatrin. 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: And we are very excited because we have a special 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: guest today on the pod is Joe Licriulio, who you 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: may know and love from Brooklyn nine nine, which he 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: started on for many seasons with us, and we're so 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: excited to talk to him today. 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: And we're talking to him about working with friends, which 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: is a topic we really wanted to talk to him 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: about specifically because he has basically made a career of 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: working with his friends. So here's the episode Enjoy. 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: More Better. Yeah, we have Joe, Joe's. 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: Josire right into it. 28 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: I love it, right into it, actor, writer, director, comedian, 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: all around great guy, incredible Joe. 30 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: I want to add incredible that all right, it is 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: incredible to be here because I've missed you, guys, and 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be on your on your show. 33 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: It's been going well. I caught a couple of the 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 4: episodes and they're great. 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: Oh that's nice. 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh thanks friend, happy to have you here. 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Don't lie, don't lie, you tell after this, you tell 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: us to give us all your notes. 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: Okay, well, great, great. 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: We wanted to start to Joe today about working with 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: friends because Joe's worked with many people that have been 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 3: close to him. He has lots of relationships that are 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: you know, some of them were established like when you 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: were really young, right, Like some of your comedic relationships 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: and collaborations were established like really early on in your career. 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: And it seems like something that you do well and often. 47 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: So we wanted to talk to you about it because 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: not only have you worked with good friends, but also 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: like your partner and like, yeah. 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've been really I've been really fortunate. 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: And I think with the State, which was the sketch 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: group I was in a million years ago, we all 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: met and Yu, And you know, it's you always have 54 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: safety in numbers, right, You always kind of want to, 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: you know, have your buds with you to kind of 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: forge your head to these dreams of being in the business. 57 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: And and you know that's it's really exciting. You just 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: feel like you have that same type of hunger and 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: ambition and you learn a shorthand. And it went very 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: well with those guys. And I've found that in working 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 4: with certainly Brooklyn and working with you know, Jod Appatowan 62 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: all and his crew and just overall working with people 63 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 4: that trust you to do your thing is just there's 64 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: nothing like it. Just the best. 65 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you feel like when you first met 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: how how did you first meet some of the guys 67 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: women as well? Yeah, take us back to. 68 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: The origin story, Yu, Like, how did it happen? 69 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: We The first person I met in the state was 70 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: Michael Schowalter, who was right across the hall from me 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: in Weinstein Dorm. And so yeah, and we and we 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: hit it off and he I had no interest in 73 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: in really sketch comedy or anything. I was way too serious. 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: I was just way I was that guy. I was 75 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: on the verge of annoying and just like I'm just 76 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: going to be a serious filmmaker. I was in the 77 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 4: film department there and and I liked comedy, but I 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: just didn't want to kind of pursue that. 79 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: And the are you talking about? 80 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: Are you serious? 81 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: Blows my mind. I can't believe I didn't know this. 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't want to do Thank god I did. 83 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: Like I would have been insuperable, Like. 84 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: I still kind of picturing you with like a skinny 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 3: scarf fla I had. 86 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: I had, I had a Oh my lord, I had 87 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: a dangling like George Michael crucifix gearing. 88 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: I knew it, like I took. 89 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: We're like, I'm in you know, one of the one 90 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: of the one of the things I do is like 91 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: you know, takee sell portraits and everything. Guys it I 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: I want to burn all those pictures. I'm keeping it. 93 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: I have them in case I see the mole of himself. 94 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna listen, be careful, be careful. All right, Look 95 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 4: what happened to dad? Dad? Dad just thought he was 96 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: in some type of music video and it was very serious. 97 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I that was me. And then Showalter 98 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: was like, Hey, we're gonna let's audition for this comedy 99 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: troupe at n YU called Sterol Yak who had a 100 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: bunch of great talented people. Williams was in that group, 101 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: who's now a f children's author, and and another fellow 102 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: by the name of Todd Holibeck was also in that 103 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: group and was like, I'm gonna kind of break off 104 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 4: and start this other sketch group. And so anyway, so 105 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: show Walter was like, we're gonna go just come do 106 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: this audition. And I only went because I wanted to 107 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 4: have a friend, Like he was like wow. I was like, 108 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: I got to meet some people and and then did it. 109 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: And then that's that's how I got into that. And 110 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: I was like a funny kid in school, like I 111 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: wasn't you know, I did a lot of like sketches 112 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: and you know, drama class, and I was always making 113 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 4: jokes and making these kind of funny little movies. But once, 114 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: for some reason, I thought, once I got to college, 115 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: I'm kind of really now I got to really kind 116 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: of dig my heels, really a serious serious artists. Yeah yeah, yeah, 117 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: so so yeah, and so then it just went from there. 118 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you when you met Showalter, was it like 119 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: a kind of an immediate like, oh, this is one 120 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: of this I like this person. 121 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it was around We started talking just about 122 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: like music. I didn't like beer at the time, and 123 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 4: I was He kind of introduced me to having beer 124 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: because we went to some bar and I ordered like 125 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: a melon ball or something really dumb, and he, oh, 126 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: he side eyed me and he's like, what are you doing. 127 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, I just don't like beer. Yeah, I don't 128 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 4: like the taste of it. 129 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: And he's like, like, while your little earring dangles, and. 130 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks good. The green drink looks good with 131 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: my beret and silver earring. So he's like, that's not 132 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: gonna work. And then my gift to him was he 133 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: had never heard of You Two, and You Two was 134 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: my favorite band at the time, and I don't know, 135 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: and aside from those things, we just kind of really 136 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: hit it off and in the same sense of humor, 137 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: and so it was a quick you know it was. 138 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: I took to him quickly, and but then everyone and 139 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: then as soon as the group started, like these people 140 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: fast became my best friends because we so wanted, we 141 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: were so ambitious, we we we liked, we loved each 142 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: other and being around each other. But we didn't, if 143 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: that makes any sense, Like we did not treat each 144 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: other well, But who does twenty. 145 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: One years old and you'rer and you. 146 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 4: Want to just you're proving, especially in a group setting. Yeah, 147 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: that's why I like the reunion tour that we did 148 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: last year was such a great gift. It was because 149 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: you just really realist and cherished these people that I 150 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: had known for so long and could appreciate them as 151 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: them and the achievements that they did, and I had 152 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: done my own thing. It was great to kind of 153 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: come back with that. But when you're that young man, 154 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: it's just like cutthroat, and and yet we would all 155 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: go to Ken Marino's parents' cabin in Hot Bottom, Pennsylvania 156 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: and write and have a great time. And so we 157 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: would do all these kind of adventures to create that bond. 158 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: So we were fortified with that trust when we faced 159 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: the biz and face the studio and face the producers, right, 160 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: and so we needed swagger, you know, we needed swagger 161 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: to kind of get through that those years. 162 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 163 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. 164 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I that you you did, like you used adventure trips 165 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: or like events I guess to kind of like rebond 166 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: you to like then get into like the creative stuff. 167 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: And then was it difficult once you were maybe doing 168 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: the thing, or like after the thing was over, Is 169 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: that when things would kind of get tricky. 170 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the the the trickiest part while we 171 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: were doing it were always the pitch meetings that would 172 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: be in any sketch show. I mean, you can you 173 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: know Andy could tell you about that with SNL, Like, 174 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: pitching is always kind of so stressful, and so when 175 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: we were in it, that was really hard part because 176 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: if you didn't write a script and didn't pitch one, 177 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: you probably weren't going to be in the sketches. And 178 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 4: I had a kind of a unique position because I 179 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: was quote unquote a nice guy and a good guy. 180 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: Everyone kind of liked me, and so I and I 181 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: and my strength was performing at the time, so I 182 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: was able to get in maybe more sketches than others. 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: And then the hard part after when the state broke 184 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: up was of course watching everyone's uh, you know success. 185 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: You know, we're no longer a group. You're kind of 186 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 4: on your own. Who's going to do what first? What 187 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 4: team what factions are going to team up? And you 188 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: know that was difficult for me at first. Because I 189 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: was kind of like solo. But I I love that 190 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: I went through that kind of you know, that kind 191 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: of trial by fire because I was able to kind 192 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 4: of define who I was, who Joe. 193 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: Was, and outside of the group, yeah, outside. 194 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 4: The group, Like I had a mini nervous breakdown when 195 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: the group broke up, because you're so used to that. 196 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: Really. 197 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember I went into this bar with a 198 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: few of the guys and then I just my test 199 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: my chest got tight, and then I started. 200 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,119 Speaker 2: A your testicles, my test really tight. 201 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: And I'm like, wait a minute, why am I sitting 202 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 4: in a bucket of ice water? And then that made sense, no, 203 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: and I just started I had to leave the bar, 204 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: and I just started like sitting on the heart, like balling, 205 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: and I didn't know why. And eventually, I think what 206 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: I discovered was like the reality of like the group 207 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: was like over. It was catching up with my conscious. 208 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: The subconscious is catching up there, right, And so those 209 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: years after that was pretty were pretty tough, but ultimately 210 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: awesome because I just gained a little bit more experience 211 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 4: and more confidence in what I wanted to do. 212 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you needed to go through that in perspective, Yeah. 213 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: Perspective for sure. Yeah, fuck yeah, we all go through 214 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: these moments of kind of anxiety and grew. 215 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god that the end of Brooklyn. I was like, 216 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: and I'm never going to work again. I guess like 217 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: that that's it and I will never ever do anything. 218 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: I might as well move to I don't even know, 219 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: some like small town in Alaska and learn how to fish. Yeah, 220 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: because it does become I mean, it's it's very different. 221 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: I think probably you're right, Andy has a more similar 222 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: experience in SNL in that like you're all together all 223 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: the time and you're working on this thing that's like cohesive. 224 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: It's like a cohesive, but it's alive because of all 225 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: of you. Yeah, you know what I mean, as opposed 226 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: to like something that you get cast in and you 227 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: like become part of an ensemble or something like that. Right, right, 228 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: it's life. It lives and dies with how you guys 229 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: function as a as a team. 230 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing like that vibe when when you're doing 231 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 4: a scene and you just everyone's locked in, you know, 232 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: and you know, we obviously had that on you know, 233 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: many many streets in Brooklyn, but there it's something about 234 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: like knowing someone's history and personal life outside the make 235 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: believe kind of adds to the make believe in such 236 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 4: a pure way. It's such a flow, like it makes 237 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: it feel so personal. I love it and and you know, 238 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 4: I've been fortunate enough to experience that a couple of times. 239 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: Did you ever have experiences in working with the group 240 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: on sketches where you were like, this is a weird 241 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: thing to say, but. 242 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: It's not funny. 243 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: Well, more likely, when you're working and you do something, 244 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 3: you do something. I mean speaking of like knowing people 245 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: really well and knowing their knowing what's going on with 246 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: them personally. Sometimes you can like set people up to 247 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: really fly, and sometimes you can fucking set people up 248 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: to just fucking. 249 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: Crash, you know what I mean. 250 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: Like, did that ever happen or was it always a 251 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 3: generous environment? 252 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: I think on in front of the cameras and on 253 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: stage it was always a generous environment, it really like 254 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: from like, I don't remember any real sabotage. There may 255 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: have been some like I don't remember or any any 256 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: real sabotage in the state while we were actually performing. 257 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: Because the whole purpose of it's kind of like when 258 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: you have a sibling and you're picking on him or 259 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: he's picking on you, and then you both go out 260 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: to the playground and someone tries to pick on your sibling, 261 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: like hey man, back off. That's yeah, yeah, right. It's 262 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: kind of like that when in in you know, in 263 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 4: the offices, we may go at it, but then when 264 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: we're on stage or in a creative meeting with you know, 265 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: the studio heads or producers, we were like we stick 266 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: up for each other there. 267 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 268 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: I think that's the difference between like, you know, I 269 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: think a lot of people work with friends, right yeah, 270 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: but I think the difference between working with people who 271 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: I guess you conform friendships at work when you're thrown 272 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: together and stuff. But I think that the real difference 273 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: is like, am I going to do exactly what you 274 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: said just now? Would I stand up for them on 275 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: the playground if somebody else came out, or would I 276 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: feel like this is your problem? My god? That just 277 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna wash my hands of this. And 278 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: that's how you really know whether or not you're invested 279 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: in this relationship beyond just a working relationship. I invested 280 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: in this relationship as like I want to see this 281 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: person succeed in life, in a way, But that can 282 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: be a really hard balance, right because, like like you said, 283 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: when the working relationship is over, I wanted to ask you, 284 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: like what it was like working with Beth on outcomes 285 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: like and what that experience was like for the two 286 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: of you, and as somebody who wrote and directed it 287 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: and then casting your significant other in the lead role 288 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: and having that experience like. 289 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: I we both when it was happening on the shoot itself. 290 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: Part of the reason I think it worked so well 291 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: is that we had separate hotel rooms. 292 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so really that. 293 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: Needed to be necessary. You know, as an actor, she's 294 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: working all days, she wants to decompress and she wants 295 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: to kind of get away from everything and go through 296 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: her process of getting ready for the next day and 297 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: decompressing from that one where I, you know, need to 298 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: look at the shot list and think about what went right, 299 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: what went wrong, can I do better? Et cetera. And 300 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 4: so that was really I think the key honestly to 301 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: success on a practical level. The project was a lot 302 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: harder for Beth before we started shooting because the project, 303 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: you know, finding fund, being in prep for like three years. 304 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: I took a toll on the household, and that was 305 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: very very hard on the marriage. That was hard on 306 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: Beth in particular. And I just love her so much 307 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: and owe her so much and respect her so much 308 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: for kind of seeing that through and allowing me to 309 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: do that, to see this dream through. But it was 310 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 4: very tough. It was hard for her to do that. 311 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 4: It takes them so much time independent filmmaking, and especially 312 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: when you're funding it yourself and shooting on a mountain, 313 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 4: all these things. But she knew how important that this 314 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: was to me, Like I wouldn't have been able to, like, 315 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: at the end of my life, been able to look 316 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: in the mirror had I not made a movie, a 317 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 4: horror movie, and so and she knew that, and I'm 318 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 4: so grateful. And so when we were on set then 319 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: it really began to shine. Like we work really well 320 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 4: together as actors, We worked really well together as an 321 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 4: actor director. We have we have trouble when we're both 322 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 4: writing the same thing. We have very different yeah visions 323 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: and way to express our writings. Were very strong minded 324 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 4: people in terms of a vision of writing, and so 325 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: that that's trouble. Maybe someday that'll change, but at least 326 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 4: the acting part and the acting directing part. We we 327 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: do very well at and I do it again a 328 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 4: heartbeat for sure? 329 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: Did you feel like on I mean I had a 330 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: very different experience I think on Brooklyn, But like, did 331 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: you feel like on Brooklyn that you were able to 332 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 3: say and speak and say and like I want to 333 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: try this, I want to do this, so I think 334 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 3: I think this is funnier I wanted, you know, And 335 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: did it change over time? 336 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I thought I did did you did 337 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: you not? I did? 338 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 3: I feel like I didn't know to ask until the end, 339 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like meaning like I just 340 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: had a different experience than most of you. I think 341 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: because I just hadn't done enough television. I had done 342 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 3: theater for so long, so like to me, you know, 343 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 3: the first three seasons was just like I don't know 344 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 3: where I'm standing, you know, like and please remember to 345 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: deliver the line when I'm supposed to. I think much 346 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: more than like creatively, what do I think about this joke? 347 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: You know, which came for me came much later, I see, 348 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 3: because I gained confidence in the process. 349 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say that. I obviously I think I had, 350 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 4: you know, having done having some experience in some of 351 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: in comedy that I my confidence level was higher and 352 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 4: able to you know, kind of throw things out whether 353 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 4: people wanted it or not. AKA but McGee, my button, 354 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: you know, I would just like adding for listeners, the 355 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: button is kind of the last moment at the end 356 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 4: of a scene that is often closes the scene with 357 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 4: a joke or something that beat. And I had this 358 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 4: habit of not letting the button just be whatever was written. 359 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 4: I had to add another moment or a look or 360 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: a line. 361 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: And so if Joe is in a scene, he is 362 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: the last one to speak almost always. 363 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 4: And that's honestly, honestly, that's that's nervous center. That isn't 364 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 4: necessarily all like look at me. It's a lot of 365 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 4: it is nervous energy. A lot of it is just like. 366 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: No, I loved it, you know, so I similar similar 367 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: to Steph didn't really I think it took me a 368 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: minute to kind of speak up. And for a long 369 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: long time it wasn't even I don't think untill towards 370 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: the end would I just like try shit. I would 371 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: more just be like, h, something's off with this joke. 372 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: Like That's kind of where I was for a long time. 373 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: Like or I don't, you know, like just raising a 374 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: question mark. But I learned so much from watching you 375 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: from the get go, just like try shit out and 376 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: be fucking Also, by the way, for a very long 377 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: stretch of time, I was convinced that we were calling 378 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: you button McGhee. 379 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: Are you serious? 380 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, And then I remember one day being like, oh, 381 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: it's button, button McGee. I know it was about the button, 382 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: but then I thought everyone was being extra. 383 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: Lot But but McGhee butt, McGee. 384 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 4: Did you have an explanation in your head as to 385 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 4: what people may have meant by saying. 386 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 3: That just like this is highly inappropriate in the workplace. 387 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: No, I knew it was about I knew it was 388 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: about the button, and I just thought that it was 389 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: just short and like to be extra sassy, like and 390 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: you know, give you shit. 391 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: Fucking hell man, there's just like, yeah, we're. 392 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: Just gonna go for the butt, you know, like the 393 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: butt of the butt of the scene is up to 394 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: butt McGee. 395 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: Damn it. 396 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I feel like you both of you 397 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 4: just kind of blossomed and grew the longer the show 398 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 4: when and I think you guys were in and nailing 399 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: it from the get go. But I understand when it's 400 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: such a big show like that and you hadn't had 401 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: that experience, how you kind of second guessed yourself, you know. 402 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: And terrifying. Just like in the beginning especially, it was just. 403 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: Like like first season, I think I just felt like 404 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: what to do. I don't remember any of the second, 405 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 3: third season, maybe a little of fourth I remember, but 406 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: like I truly don't remember. But what I do remember 407 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: is that you guys, I think about this all the time. 408 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 3: Remember when we were sitting outside when we were shooting 409 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: the pilot and we were sitting outside crafty and and 410 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: he was like, we'll get into these spaces for the 411 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: next seven years. And then we were all like we 412 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: looked at each other like yeah, that'd be cool. 413 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, And then it was. 414 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: It was such I mean, part of the experience of 415 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: working on Brooklyn that made it so good was that, 416 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: like we were all real friends with each other, Like 417 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: we are still real friends with each other, you know, 418 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: like we really respected and cared about each other, and. 419 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: We did and we do and and not anymore. 420 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: I don't respect either. 421 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 4: I mean, classic guy, I'm moving on to bigger and 422 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 4: better B and B so uh no, But you know. 423 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: The other thing that really cemented that were the gigantic, 424 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: enormous life moments that each of us were going aka 425 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: marriage and children. That just cemented the whole thing, right, 426 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: And I'll always I love that. I hate treasure it. 427 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. 428 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: And I also feel like the fact that we all 429 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: jelled so quickly and that we all like actually became 430 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: friends is like part of the magic sauce of life 431 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: for the show. And I feel like, especially in comedy, 432 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: like I I've been very lucky that I feel like 433 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: almost everyone I've worked with I really liked and like 434 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: become friends with or at least friends with while the 435 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: thing was happening. And you know, but I can't imagine. 436 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Obviously we don't have to say names, but like have 437 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: either of. 438 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 5: You ever We're not at dinner, guys, we're on the 439 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 5: pod at dinner, and then when we go to dinner, 440 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 5: which out the names, but have particularly in comedy, because 441 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 5: I feel like drama is a different thing. 442 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: Like you hear about actors that hated each other and 443 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: some like drama thing and they have all this chemistry 444 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, I get it, Like the chemistry is 445 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: probably like they're fucking vitriol for each other, and like, 446 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: I feel like that kind of maybe can work. But 447 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: I feel like in comedy it's like the more you 448 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: like each other, the more you get along, the more the. 449 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: Work is like sort of elevated. I don't know, do 450 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: you agree, disagree? 451 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? I do I bought the monks dissel. 452 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: I do agree. I had a point where you were 453 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: talking and then I forgot it. But I think that 454 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: trust is a trust is a big deal, right, especially 455 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 4: in comedy, like feeling safe to fail right, which you 456 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 4: guys finally felt safe enough after the first season or whenever, 457 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: and that you know my experience in the State and 458 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 4: what it could be. I know the state was dysfunctional 459 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: early on, but like what we achieved was I feel 460 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 4: really really good. And the lesson I took from that 461 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: is that if you if you kind of make it 462 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: about the you know, the group, the ensemble, and pass 463 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: the football around like you will get something better than 464 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 4: what you can do by yourself. And I don't know 465 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: how relating it to your question, Melissa. 466 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: But no, but I think I think that's such a 467 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: good point for any like working relationship, right, even if 468 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: we think of jobs or industries outside of what we do, right, 469 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: Like that thing you said about like trusting each other 470 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: to even fail, you know, and like passing the football 471 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: around and like. 472 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: Not making it's just about me, me me, Yeah. 473 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 4: Like the shows that both of you have gone on 474 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: to after Brooklyn, Like you know what it could be, right, 475 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 4: you know what an amazing uh dynamic a cast can have. 476 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: You know the steps that allow it to have a 477 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 4: chance to be that, and you know the steps that 478 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: will not allow it to be that, and you act accordingly, 479 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: and so that that experience really of Brooklyn, and I 480 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: was fortunate to have that reno parts of the state 481 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 4: with you know, super bad. Those guys were great, you 482 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 4: know you you know, you know what is needed and 483 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 4: then and then you're quickly able to be like, oh 484 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 4: that's not going to fly here or could work here, 485 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 4: or this may work with this person, and then you 486 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: just start moving right, so you you create your your 487 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: your bubble of safety so you can glow, you know, yes, 488 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: and hopefully allow others to glow. 489 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: I mean, because that's the thing, right, Like you're not 490 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: always going to work with your best friends, You're not 491 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: always going to work with people who like you would 492 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: even pick to hang out with. But if you can 493 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 3: manage to have a relationship with them at work that 494 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 3: feels like you are able to move with each other 495 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: and trust each other at least in the work that 496 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: you're doing, then it can succeed. No matter if you like, 497 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 3: you know, maybe aren't the best friends, you can succeed 498 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: in the work situation because you're able to say, you know, well, 499 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: I could be generous in this way with you, like 500 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: and give you what you need, and like, if you 501 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: can't give me what I need, then I can give 502 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: them somewhere else, you know. 503 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I think it's like having a little less ego, right, 504 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: and like keeping the thing that you're making in our case, 505 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: uh as the most important thing, right, like always serving 506 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: the story, the joke, story, the work, the jokes, like 507 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: the whatever, right and like and it's that given take, 508 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, and it's not. I think it's yeah, having 509 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: a little less you go to be like you're you're 510 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: better at that you do that part. 511 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: You know, the. 512 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 4: Biggest advantage I think of having friends when you're doing comedy, 513 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: and we did this in Brooklyn A lot is after 514 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 4: you do a joke or something, after the take and 515 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: go to Annie and be like, is that funny work? 516 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? 517 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Was that working? 518 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know. And if you're like yeah, it'd 519 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 4: be like okay, good and then it's not if you 520 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 4: don't trust that person, Oh you're just getting into a spiral, right. 521 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 522 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: And one of the great things about Andy as a 523 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 4: as a producer was that, you know, I would pitch. 524 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 4: I would pitch an idea and it would be okay, 525 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: would but not quite work or it wouldn't be funny, 526 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: but he wouldn't say that. He would kind of listen 527 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: to what I was trying to do and then pitch 528 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: the better joke or like or try this. 529 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: So good at that and. 530 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 4: He's super He's a great Listener's able to see what 531 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: you're trying to do and then not judge it if 532 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 4: it doesn't work, and then throughout the thing that works. 533 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 4: And it was great And that that was a huge 534 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: and Chelsea too, that was a huge That was a 535 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: huge thing to have a huge resource. 536 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 537 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't have any memory of having an 538 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: idea or pitching something and someone going like you know 539 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: what I mean, like or if they do you know, 540 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: or if they did, they still used some it was 541 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: good natured. 542 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 4: It was good natured, and he couldn't build. I didn't 543 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: feel judged by it. It was just like, yeah, yeah, 544 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: you felt safe enough to fill out a bad idea, right, 545 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 4: I mean that is the key, because you're definitely not 546 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 4: throwing out good ideas all the time. I mean that's 547 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: just not how it works, you know. 548 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: Right, I mean right exactly. 549 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: No, No, you were. You were like ten for ten stea. 550 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: I mean, our names are not Stephanie a Beatriz. 551 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: But every time I didn't think that that was something 552 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: that U that I really loved about watching Andre work 553 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: sometimes because he would have these like really out of 554 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: control ideas and then like yeah, the the watching of 555 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: someone like really sort of hone in on what he 556 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: specifically thought was funny, which was so outlandish sometimes where 557 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: like I would remember being like, it's going to work 558 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: and then you see it and you'd be like that 559 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: was amazing. 560 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 4: Trust get his comedy legs. Yeah, I mean it's it's 561 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: a moment that we've all talked about so much, But 562 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 4: that hot damn moment after that opened God, that just 563 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: opened up the gates. It was just some like I mean, 564 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: he had over he always arrived, but like then he 565 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: was like he was there, he landed. 566 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: For listeners who don't know the hot damn at the 567 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: end of a cold No, was it a cold open. 568 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: It was a cold open where we were all trying 569 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 4: to figure. 570 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: Out why I was late. Yes, was an improv from 571 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: Andre Brower, and. 572 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: It was like one of his first Like. 573 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it was also at a time where 574 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: he had just started to throw things out and to 575 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: try things. Yes, and then that one, like he just 576 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: was watching for a long time and I like getting, 577 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: as you said, his comedy legs together, and then that 578 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: one came out and it's I could up the whole. 579 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: Afterwards is so fast? 580 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it was such a release, I think because 581 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 4: everyone was so rooting for him anyway, they like, you know, 582 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 4: discover how amazing nailing a joke is or was the best? 583 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 4: It really was. 584 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: Why when you think about the stuff that you want 585 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 3: to do in the future, like what is like the 586 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: dream scenario for you in terms of like being able 587 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: to do something again or something that you haven't done 588 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: yet with people that you'd like to collaborate with. 589 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a really really good question because I've 590 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: been you know, real talk, I've been like struggling with 591 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 4: finding some joy in what I'm doing again, like you know, 592 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 4: this business has changed so much, and that you know, 593 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 4: I'm kind of getting back to like why did I 594 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 4: want to do this? Acting? Like I'm why did I 595 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 4: want to do this? Like an honest assessment of like 596 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: what got me into acting? Why did I want to 597 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 4: make movies? And because it's always nice to reset that way. 598 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: So the short answer is like, I don't know, but 599 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 4: I do know that it does involve probably directing or 600 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 4: filmmaking a little bit more than acting, Like I'm ready, 601 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: like I just will always have that bug to act, 602 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 4: but there's there's like a bit of a hunger that's 603 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 4: been satiated already that it's just not as hungry. And 604 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 4: you know, in this town, you just gotta want it constantly, 605 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes I want it and sometimes I don't, 606 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 4: so like you know, so it's like what does that 607 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: mean for Joe as like a creative person? Like, and 608 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 4: I think that's what I've been maneuvering really honestly since 609 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 4: Brooken ended. And I've had some really great projects that 610 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 4: have happened since then, and there's one coming next year 611 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: that I can't talk about that's exciting. But that being said, 612 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 4: I feel still a little not lost, but I'm doing 613 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: a lot of work. I'm doing a lot of work 614 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: on myself with like what am I really in it for? 615 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: And what do I want to achieve next. The vibe 616 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: I feel is more kind of writing and directing. But 617 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: as soon as that job comes are like, hey, Joe 618 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 4: there thinking about this, do you want to get Yeah? 619 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 4: Sure is it? As long as it's not a police officer, 620 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 4: because I've done that about one hundred and eighty times. 621 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: Let's as you as you should, throw script pages behind you. 622 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: That's right, let's go down. It's great. I loved it, 623 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: proud of it. Let's move it along like. 624 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: It like it? 625 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? 626 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: Uh okay, So Joe. 627 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes we do what's called nerd time in these episodes 628 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: and where our lovely producers give us like articles and 629 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: data and things about, you know, whatever topic we're discussing. 630 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that came up was 631 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: the term work wife and work husband. 632 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 4: Uh. 633 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: Several articles on this topic. 634 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: What is a work wife and work husband? 635 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: What it's like somebody that you work with that you 636 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 3: your relationship with them? 637 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: Oh? 638 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: I see you want it gives me the ick so bad. 639 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, some would probably say that, okay. If 640 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: I was the type of person to like use this term, 641 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: I've probably been like, andya's like my husband because like, 642 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're like together all day and you. 643 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 4: Know what this is. This is the culture's problem with 644 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 4: not just being able to talk about intimacy without meaning 645 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: that it means. 646 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: It's yes, yes, no, And it doesn't mean I have 647 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: to call anyone other. 648 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: Than my actual husband husband. That's fucking weird. 649 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 4: It's great to be like, I feel like we have 650 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 4: a very close intimate friendship because I feel like I 651 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 4: can talk to you guys like I'm talking to you now, 652 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 4: and I have that with many and that is awesome. 653 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 4: And yes, you know, that term is just like I 654 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 4: don't know why it rubbed me the wrong way, but 655 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 4: it does. 656 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: Because it's gross. I mean, it's gross, and I also 657 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: think it's whatever. 658 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 4: It's a term. I'm overreacting here, so. 659 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, no you're not. 660 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 3: It's correct for this is the space for this. I 661 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 3: feel like it bothers me so much because it implies 662 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 3: that somehow my relationship with my I guess if you 663 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 3: are already married, right, if you or if you have 664 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: like a partnership in your life that is on the 665 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: level of something that's committed and then you say like, oh, 666 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 3: well that's my work, husband, it implies that like somehow 667 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 3: this person is is this person at work is fulfilling 668 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 3: needs for you that are unmet in your personal life. 669 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: Right that part, With that part, it's okay to have 670 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 3: someone at work or to have people that you work 671 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: with or collaborate with that do fulfill some kind of 672 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: like creative need or or like I can do this 673 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 3: with these people. I can talk about this with this 674 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 3: I'm like I tried to talk to Brad this morning 675 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 3: about like I was talking about nos Faratu I just 676 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: saw yesterday, and I was like trying to talk about 677 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 3: female sexuality and film and like how it's like in 678 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 3: The Witch and does Dave Eggers have like a weird 679 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 3: thing about women and and whatever. As I'm talking to 680 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 3: him and he's looking at me like I'm explaining I 681 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 3: don't even. 682 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 2: Know if question quantum physics, it would be like. 683 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 3: Him trying to talk to me about football, right, which, 684 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 3: like I'm listening. I want to know, I want to hear, 685 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: and Brad is listening, like he's trying to you know, 686 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 3: he's he wants to be there with me, but it's 687 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: on a different level than maybe some of my creative 688 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 3: friends might engage with that discussion. Right, that's one thing. 689 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 3: But when when it's like when it's like crossing a line, 690 00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: when it's like when it's like so intimate that it's like, 691 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, that's where it gets icky to me because. 692 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 4: It feels like. 693 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, And I'm also like not polyamorous, Like 694 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: maybe polyamorous people are like would be totally don't. 695 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: I actually don't know. 696 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 3: I'm talking out of my ass now I have the idea. 697 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 4: I think it's always hard for a person to say 698 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 4: this relationship, friendship, platonic relationship outside my marriage is giving 699 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 4: me something that my marriage isn't. I think that that's 700 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 4: a hard thing. And but I think that's a very 701 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 4: natural thing. And depending on you know, your partner, your 702 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 4: partner would understand that your partner's also got that outlet 703 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: going to probably right, and yeah, but it's like it's 704 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 4: hard to admit that you're not complete, right, you know 705 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 4: that you don't fulfill everything you know and and does 706 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 4: it's no reflection on your completeness, you know, and uh, yes, 707 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 4: so I understand why it's hard to navigate that stuff. 708 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 4: But thank god, there's some other people that you know, 709 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 4: the person I care about is like being you know, met, 710 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 4: that was like being fulfilled, like you know, I trust them, 711 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 4: you know. 712 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: You know it's yeah, yeah, well yeah, it's like this 713 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: false notion that like our partner has to be all 714 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: the things for us, like and that that's impossible. That 715 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: does That's not real, No one is, you know. 716 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: And I don't want. 717 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 3: I don't want I may and I don't want I 718 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: don't know to be like my work husband, you know 719 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: what I mean. 720 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,959 Speaker 2: I'm not I don't like it. 721 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 4: I like the vernacular. Who do we like? Who do 722 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,959 Speaker 4: we talk to about? 723 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 2: Dear society? All anxiety that is listening right now? 724 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 4: It is very. 725 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: It is very. 726 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 3: It is a very really makes like a a name 727 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 3: for something of like this person understands my needs in 728 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 3: this work environment in a way that nobody else does, 729 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 3: and I feel really intimate and close with them in 730 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 3: a work environment. 731 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: Right, can we rebranded? 732 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a better label for that, Like 733 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just your collaborat girl. Just oh my god, 734 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: it's baby Girl, Girl, It's baby girl and baby boy. 735 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 3: Have you seen by the way, Joe, I love? 736 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really, that's what I call it. Well, I 737 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 4: did like it, and since I saw it, I liked 738 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 4: it more like I classified. I keep thinking about it 739 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 4: as either bloomers or faders, which the definition being obvious, 740 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 4: and that's definitely a bloomer. And I and and I 741 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 4: just started. It stuck with me longer than I thought 742 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 4: it would. When I walked out of the theater and yeah. 743 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: What about did you see the substance? 744 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 4: Yes? Same, Well, although that I liked immediately, the whole 745 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 4: you know what, the substance which I loved, the thing, 746 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 4: the the thing I kept thinking about at the end 747 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 4: of that movie. And I don't want to spoil it, 748 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 4: but there's a scene where a lot of extras go 749 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 4: through a lot of makeup. Okay, leave it at that, 750 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh my god, that day, that day 751 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: of shooting down logistics, Sang goes dress. Who's cleaning that 752 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 4: is this one has to be? 753 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 3: That's why I was like, this is one take. This 754 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: got me one take because it's how. 755 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 4: It might be a two take. It like we did 756 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 4: a sketch on the on the on the State called 757 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 4: Pope's a Visit, where the Pope comes in a white 758 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 4: thing and we we kind of like unload a bunch 759 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 4: of grape juice on him, and we had like like 760 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 4: a gutter, like like a gutter around the sound stage. 761 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 4: The immediate set to like collect all this stuff and 762 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 4: drain it and then do it again. And and I'm like, oh, 763 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 4: maybe they did that. But even so, there was only 764 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 4: like five people in this sketch. 765 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 3: I mean, this was like. 766 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: Hair makeup up. You haven't seen it. 767 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I have seen a baby girl. 768 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: I did see baby girl. I don't think that's for me. 769 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be horny and I read a 770 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: review and I was like, this isn't horny. I want 771 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: to see like horn dog situation. 772 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 2: It's a little I would say, it's a little. It's 773 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 2: it's both. It's a little. 774 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 3: Also like what in what universe a you married to 775 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 3: Antonio Baneraz and you don't want to buck the living 776 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 3: daylights out of him? 777 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 2: You know, like what are we talking you? 778 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 4: You? 779 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 3: You should? 780 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: I want you to see it. 781 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: It's because it's not Yeah, it's no, it's a little 782 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: more complex than that, and it's I think it's a 783 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: good it's nuanced, and it's an interesting take on I 784 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: think female sexuality and in particular in a later not 785 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: later stage making makes right. 786 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: Now I know you are, but it was for me, 787 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: it was a bloomer. 788 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: I thought about it for days more better. 789 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 3: Can you talk about anything that's like work related that's 790 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 3: coming up that you want to talk about. 791 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 4: I did. I did a guest star on on Ghosts, 792 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: which should be very fun. I want to come and 793 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 4: I don't know when that's coming out, but that was 794 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 4: a fun, little little gig. It made me think of 795 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 4: us in Montreal and just. 796 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: For laughs, Oh that's right. They shoot in Montreal, right, 797 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: and had a. 798 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 4: Good time with a good group of people. They have 799 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 4: a great vibe up there, the crew and that cast 800 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 4: up there is really awesome. 801 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: And then yeah, Ukarsh is an old buddy of mine. 802 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: We went to NYU together. 803 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 4: Oh that's right, Yes, that was I had my scene 804 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 4: with him. He was terrific. 805 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great guy. 806 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one. And then I'm doing writing. I'm writing 807 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 4: some stuff and I'm trying to get something going with 808 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 4: the Preducer of Hot Frosty and get another project going 809 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 4: with him, another movie and all very premature, of course, 810 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 4: but it's something. It's in Avenue. Yeah, it's the Street. 811 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I like that. I love that and I 812 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 2: love you Joe. 813 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 4: You guys. I'm glad you guys did this podcast and 814 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 4: you guys are rocking it and I always loved to 815 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 4: you guys. Send your sending. 816 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 2: Let me Joe. 817 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 4: So, you guys are the coolest. Thanks for having me, 818 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 4: Thanks for being here. 819 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: Thanks, you're the coolest. Thanks for making the time. We 820 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: appreciate you. 821 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 4: More Better. 822 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 3: Do you have something you'd like to be more better 823 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 3: at that you want us to talk about in a 824 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 3: future episode? 825 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried 826 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: one of our tips and tricks? 827 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 3: Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at 828 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: gmail dot com and include a voice note if you 829 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 3: want to be featured on the pod. 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