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Speaker 1: California's prisons and the plans to close even more of them.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons you're seeing more crime. There

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Speaker 1: were just more people out there to do it, and

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Speaker 1: they were hell bent on doing this in Sacramento, led

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Speaker 1: by Governor Dippity Due Gavin Newsom. So we'll give it

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Speaker 1: the full details coming up. And speaking of the prisons,

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Speaker 1: there was kind of some good news as one evil

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Speaker 1: prisoner killed another as they share a sell. We'll also

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Speaker 1: talk about the story that's heartwarming. Can we Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: both evil. You can take your pick when you hear

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Speaker 1: their backgrounds which one's more evil, the one that died

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Speaker 1: or the one that killed. But we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Can we tell it twice? It was July of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty when a little boy by the name of Gavin

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Speaker 1: Ludwig was attacked on his way home from a neighbor's

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Speaker 1: pool party. This is out in Desert Hot Springs. They're

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Speaker 1: calling it to neighborhood called Vista del Valley. He was

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Speaker 1: attacked by a thirty two year old evil. While I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the guys mugshot picture too. Daniel Birch Pulson

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Speaker 1: thirty two years old. There was no confrontation, there was nothing,

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Speaker 1: just a completely random attack where Pulson attacked little Gavin

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Speaker 1: and he hit him with a rock and he fractured

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Speaker 1: his skull. We covered the story back in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Gavin's mother, Wendy, who's going to come

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Speaker 1: But it was horrendous, a long road to recovery. He

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Speaker 1: had to be airlifted to Loma Linda Medical Center and

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Speaker 1: they eventually found the suspect hiding in the neighborhood, arrested

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Speaker 1: for attempted murder. This is a person that should never

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Speaker 1: what we found out and following the story for months later,

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Speaker 1: course it involves psychiatric issues. So we off seems to

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Speaker 1: you know, doesn't last. Yeah, right, that would be there

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Speaker 1: on the business of hearing people quotes. Yes, they don't

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Speaker 1: lock him up for good. They think they can fix him,

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Speaker 1: and you can't fix a violent psychotic or will smash

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Speaker 1: a rock on a little boy's head. There's no fixing

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Speaker 1: that impulse. I want to read this quote. Arturo Delgado

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Speaker 1: was on his way to grab dinner when he noticed

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Speaker 1: I went to turn him over. I noticed it was

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Speaker 1: So I picked him up, ran to his house, knocked

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Speaker 1: an update on Gavin and an update on this evil

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Speaker 1: I am. I have to thank you, thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you for not forgetting about Gavin. Oh we told you

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Speaker 1: we were never going to forget about him. Now when

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Speaker 1: we got the update over the weekend from go fund

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Speaker 1: me to find out the latest. But let's talk about

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Speaker 1: your son first, and how are things today for him? Um,

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Speaker 1: to go to a different school. You're a teacher, right, Um, yes, yeah?

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Speaker 1: What what are the challenges he still has? Um? He

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Speaker 1: and his academics dropped severely after the attack. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: How is he feeling about everything? Now? He's happy, Go lucky.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't he doesn't remember the attack because it happened

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Speaker 1: in a mental institution. But what's the severity the attack?

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Speaker 1: Is a possibility there that he's going to be out

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Speaker 1: this he has an organic disorder in his brain. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: whether it's set it's physical violence. That that that you

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Speaker 1: There was nothing my son could have done to you know,

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Speaker 1: It's love for a little Gavin is the key search

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Speaker 1: This new criminal justice crowd just does not believe in incarceration,

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Speaker 1: plus they live still spending a lot of money, right, right,

427
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Speaker 1: So you could say it's like, oh my god, we

428
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Speaker 1: have one hundred and sixty five thousand people in prison.

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Speaker 1: That's a well, it's not a big number as you

430
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Speaker 1: put it at a forty million. It isn't, but you

431
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Speaker 1: could make it sound like a big number because most

432
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Speaker 1: people can't conceive a hundred several Dodgers stadiums full. Yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: so we've we have gotten rid of seventy thousand people.

434
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: And you know what's in the streets now, and you

435
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: see the crimes on TV every night, and you know

436
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: how scared you and your neighbors are. You're you're writing

437
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: and reading a next door app every day. All kinds

438
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Speaker 1: of atrocity is going on. Where do you think that

439
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: came from? It came from the seventy thousand they let out, right,

440
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: So a new report has come out Steak can close

441
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Speaker 1: up to nine of its thirty three prisons. They've already

442
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Speaker 1: shut down four, they're working on more. Newsom anounced when

443
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Speaker 1: he became governor he only wanted to shut one prison

444
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Speaker 1: down during his time, but obviously now their eyes are

445
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: lighting up and they want to shut them all down.

446
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: The state, though, is spending one hundred and six thousand

447
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: dollars every year for the prisoners. Well, so they took

448
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,239
Speaker 1: it in the shorts on both ends. More of these

449
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: people are free, and the ones that are left are

450
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: still costing almost as much money. And that's where they

451
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: used the big lie to gain support for Propositions forty

452
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Speaker 1: seven and fifty. We're going to take the money that's

453
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Speaker 1: saved and work on rehab whatever. They said that right,

454
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Speaker 1: And they said it'll save you money if we close prisons.

455
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Speaker 1: It'll save you money. If we passed Aby one O nine,

456
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Speaker 1: and that was to empty out the state prisons to

457
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Speaker 1: save you money. Everything is about saving money. And then

458
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: ten plus years go by and you look up and

459
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: we are spending now way more money per prisoner than

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Speaker 1: we used to. In fact, the entire budget is much

461
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Speaker 1: more than it was ten years ago, even with seventy

462
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Speaker 1: thousand fewer prisoners. And you know why, it's not just

463
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Speaker 1: that the prison guards have a nice deal. They spend

464
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Speaker 1: thirty one million dollars on a new healthcare facility in

465
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Speaker 1: blythe So remember this judge was making them spend all

466
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Speaker 1: kinds of money for better mental health and health care

467
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Speaker 1: for the indates. So they built a whole bunch of

468
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Speaker 1: facilities so the inmates got better care. This is so

469
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Speaker 1: freaking upside down. By the way, do you do you

470
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Speaker 1: anybody care about the healthcare of prisoners. We just talked

471
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Speaker 1: about a serial killer that killed his sex molesting inmate.

472
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, go cellmate. Yeah, they're not, they're not. Do

473
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Speaker 1: you care if they get good healthcare? Do you really care? No? No,

474
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Speaker 1: And do you think any of the mental healthcare that

475
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Speaker 1: that prisoner Escobar got at was of any use? I mean,

476
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: he gets a new roommate. The first thing he does

477
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: is he offers the guy. So apparently whatever therapy went

478
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: to didn't have much of an effect. It's all bs,

479
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 1: it's all a racket. Then the sad news is they

480
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: have no plans to slow this down. They want to

481
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: release even more prisoners and close more prisons. So the

482
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 1: way ahead here is bleak. When it comes to crime. Now,

483
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: I'll admit the last few months there seems to be

484
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: a little let up in the crazy crime reports. Over

485
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: last year, we had all of these ye street robberies,

486
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Speaker 1: and people were smashing cars into jewelry stores and smashing grabs.

487
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: And I think LAPD cracked one of the big smashing

488
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: grab crying the rings. Yeah, yeah, that was going after

489
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: the jewelry store. I remember up in San Francisco too.

490
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: This was happening like every week people were smashing into stores.

491
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Speaker 1: I guess he thinks just come in streaks or I

492
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: think you're right. I don't think anybody did that much

493
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: to unless, like I mentioned, lapd get found some of

494
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: the gangs. It also depends how much the media covers

495
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: it too. That's true. It could still be happening. It

496
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: just doesn't get reported. Is because they thought, you know,

497
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: it's time to cycle into some other big story. I

498
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: don't know, but the way they described this, this was

499
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: a wine down or the tough on crime policies that

500
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: pack prison in the nineties. Yeah, and that was that

501
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: was a good time. That was the that was the

502
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: golden age. Yeah, because everything's delayed. So ten years after that,

503
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: the nineties into the two thousands, ten years after that,

504
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: you started to see these city officials come out and

505
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: brag about all time low crime rates. We did that. No,

506
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: you didn't. The voters did that three strikes. Yeah. The

507
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: voters forced it on Sacramento back in the nineties, right,

508
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: forced it on them because they were so upset with

509
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: what was going on. But the newer generation of voters

510
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be particularly motivated to to do some

511
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: punishment against the legislators who brought us these ridiculous laws

512
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: that have emptied up prisoners. And I don't know why,

513
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: because everybody seems to be afraid. Everybody seems to be upset.

514
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Everyone has seen their freedom's curtailed. Everyone has seen their

515
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: face stories and retail shops clothes. Everyone is a little

516
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: nervous eating outside on the sidewalk because you never know

517
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: if that creep that's shuffling along is going to stop

518
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: and do some damage to you while you while you're

519
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: eating dinner. And let's not forget how this happened. Eight

520
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Speaker 1: B one O nine, the Prisoner Dumping Bill props. Forty

521
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: seven fifty seven. They've all and the pandemic all made

522
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Speaker 1: it possible to bring these prison numbers down. These prisoner numbers.

523
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: They're saying now that they have empty beds, which is

524
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: why they want to close more prisons. Right, fifteen thousand

525
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: empty beds in the state prison system. Right, there's not

526
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: them put the homeless in there. I don't care. Yeah,

527
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: there's nobody available on the streets right now to throw

528
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: in prison. Really, all right, we got more coming up.

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Speaker 1: It is the John and Ken Show, KF I am

530
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Speaker 1: six forty We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio. A couple

531
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Speaker 1: of big stories coming up tomorrow. They're going to vote

532
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: for a Chicago mayor. There's a primary tomorrow in the

533
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: city of Chicago, and there's a whole lot of people running,

534
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: and you got to make the runoff and be in

535
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: the top two. So there's concern for those who care

536
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: that Lori Lightfoot's in trouble. That city, of course, has

537
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: had so many problems, particularly still a huge murder rate.

538
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: He gives Garcetti a run for his money. Now worst

539
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: all time mayor in American history. Oh my god, what

540
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: a disaster. Although I've read that that the other candidates

541
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: aren't much better that right, I haven't said twenty or

542
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: something that I read. Yeah, but there's like there's like

543
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: three or four that that matter, that matter, that can

544
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: make make the runoff, and there's going to be a

545
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: runoff because nobody has an overwhelming majority. The US Supreme

546
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: Court is also going to look at Biden's attempt to

547
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: forgive student loans in a case that was brought by

548
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: a couple of states and also by some people who

549
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: would not benefit from the bill and are claiming that

550
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: this is not fair. So a decision won't come there

551
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: for months, but we'll get an idea of the arguments tomorrow.

552
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: And then there was this development in the murder of

553
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: the four college students at the University of Idaho stabbed

554
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: to death in an off campus home back on November thirteenth.

555
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: There is a state legislatur in Idaho by the name

556
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: of Bruce skalg who has decided to introduce a bill

557
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: that brings back the firing squad. So if Brian Coburger,

558
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: as expected, Idaho I think still has some pretty traditional justice.

559
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: If he does get convicted and does get sentenced to

560
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: the death penalty, there's a possibility he will be executed

561
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Speaker 1: by firing squad. What do they have one of those

562
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: silly lethal injection laws? Now they do, he would have Actually,

563
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: I think he would have the option, gentle pressy little oh,

564
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: just go to sleep quietly. You know. Here's what it says,

565
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: if lethal injections available no more than five days after

566
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Speaker 1: the issuance of a death warrant. If it's not, a

567
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: firing squad would be used. So, you know, states are

568
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: having difficulty getting the lethal injection drugs. We've talked about

569
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: this many times over because the makers don't necessarily want

570
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: to provide the product if it's going to be used

571
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: to execute somebody. I don't think the bullet companies are

572
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: going to have a problem supplying bullets, so we're not

573
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: going to run into that. How many bullets would they

574
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Speaker 1: have to fire at them? When you were like, when

575
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: when a firing squad at you? Yeah, how many men

576
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: line up? I wonder well, I guess that would be

577
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Speaker 1: in the bill. Death by firing squad was legal and

578
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: idol from nineteen eighty two to two thousand and nine,

579
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Speaker 1: so when it was banned. Now, he believes firing squads

580
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: are more humane because they cannot be botched, right, and

581
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Speaker 1: it's a quick death. Five or more? Five or more

582
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: says the execute Did they put a little thing over

583
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Speaker 1: your heart where to shoot at? Yeah, X, big X,

584
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: your shirtless and it's a big red X where the

585
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: heart is. Some have blanks. Actually, oh that's right. We

586
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: did find that out years ago. Some of the shoots

587
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: have blanks, so there's no guilt. Many there are usually

588
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: erect those are like five guys. According to the Crime Museum,

589
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: it says typically five or more. Where is the crime museum? Um,

590
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but there's a spy museum in Washington,

591
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: DC that I've been to, and there's a mobster museum

592
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: in Vegas and the Torture Museum in Italy. I went

593
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: to a lot time talk about that for many years.

594
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: I was on my honeymoon. Well, they had a problem.

595
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: They were going to execute a guy with the injection

596
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Speaker 1: chemicals in November, but it didn't go well. They had

597
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Speaker 1: to cancel the execution now because they couldn't find the chemicals.

598
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm done with the chemicals. You're done with lethal injection chemicals, right, Yeah,

599
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: that's it's it's you know what. I don't know why,

600
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: but the people they hire in prisons, I guess these

601
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: are low level government scruff workers. They're just no good

602
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: and there's too many of them botch the injections and

603
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: they give too many arguments to these anti death penalty nuts.

604
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Speaker 1: So a bullet right at the heart. Five bullets at

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00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: the heart, that's the way to go. You can't argue

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00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: with the bullets. And we should point out once again

607
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: that apparently Brian Coburger once weighed three hundred pounds. He

608
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: went on an incredible run to reduce his weight. He

609
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: was successful, but he ended up vegan huh, tell you

610
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Veganism disturbs the brain chemistry, causes unusual behaviors. I would

611
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: think vegans would be less aggressive. That's kind of how

612
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: you describe them too. Yeah, but I think I think

613
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: it just it just it jangles the brain chemistry because

614
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: they're not getting all the nutrients they need, not all

615
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: the vitamins. Oh, something's amiss. And yeah, and the wiring yeah, oh,

616
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: efficiencies which could somehow be criminal. Or it leads to violence,

617
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: just uncontrolled, unexplainable violence. It leads to violence. Oh, who

618
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: do we have Conway? Conway? Yeah, that would be the guy.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Can I speak to just the rain

620
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Speaker 1: for second, not to you or the audience, just the

621
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Speaker 1: rings ring? Okay, we get it enough, we get it.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, it's gonna be three more days of it.

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Speaker 1: I felt exactly that way this morning. Yeah. I heard

624
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: it starting to really pound against the wind. It's like, stop, stop,

625
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: we understand, we get it. Um. We have hundreds of

626
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: Irvine students stranded up at that science camp. I thought

627
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: I went to that science camp, but I just didn't

628
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: get snowed in. But I imagine it's pretty terrifying for

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Speaker 1: those kids, because a lot of times that's their first

630
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Speaker 1: time away from home. Oh is that the one up

631
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Speaker 1: and running springs? Is it? It's called astro or something,

632
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Speaker 1: isn't it? Okay, get my daughter went to that science camp,

633
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Speaker 1: and you know that's their first time out a lot,

634
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, fifth grade. Yeah, and then they get the

635
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: snowed in. Supreme Court's gonna rule on the student loan

636
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: forgiveness this week, so somebody might get a check or man,

637
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: maybe not, I don't know. And Cocaine Bear tears it

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Speaker 1: up in the box office. But twenty three million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I saw that. You saw the movie. Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Our friends talked to us in to going, Oh that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Where'd you go see that stupid thing? Westwood h Century City? Oh? Nice? Friends?

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Speaker 1: Did you see it? No interest? I can't imagine you

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Speaker 1: and your wife and another couple sitting out the rain

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Speaker 1: waiting for that movie to start. Well, we weren't sitting

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Speaker 1: in the rain. We were inside the mall. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well, whatever the circumstances apparently not a true story.

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Speaker 1: You knew that, John Well. I looked partially afterwards, I

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Speaker 1: mean part part. Well, they found a dead bear who

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Speaker 1: may have ingested some cocaine after it clearly was was somebody.

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Speaker 1: I even read an article about it afterwards. You know,

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Speaker 1: a writer found this story and his imagination went wild. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. There were there were a few moments laughed

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Speaker 1: out loud. Is that right? Yes, there are a few moments.

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Speaker 1: I wish I didn't see I'm not good with Gore,

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Speaker 1: and I knew. I knew I was in the wrong movie.

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Speaker 1: During the I had got a movie in years. I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you the last movie I went to. But

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Speaker 1: all the trailers for the other movies were disgusting, gory, bloody,

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Speaker 1: and that was the audience, and I guess that's what

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Speaker 1: they think, right, And I looked at my wife, I said,

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Speaker 1: we're in trouble. We're not. This is not our demo,

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Speaker 1: this is not We're not supposed to be here. You

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Speaker 1: weren't the youngest couple in the theater. Uh No, I

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Speaker 1: think there were. I'd be careful these friends that got

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Speaker 1: you to go. I think there are actually a bunch

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Speaker 1: of couples. I think because it looked like it was

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Speaker 1: funny in the commercials, like it was just you know,

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Speaker 1: if my if my wife said to me, Hey, I

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Speaker 1: you know the the the Patersons wanted to go to

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Speaker 1: you know, Cocaine Bear at Century City Mall on a Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and I would say, no, I'm not going. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was going to be stupid. I didn't I didn't

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Speaker 1: know about the horror, right, I didn't know about the

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Speaker 1: body parts and the blood and all that they're working on.

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Speaker 1: Meth and fhetamine. Goat, that's the the s crazing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, the goat, that's right. Conway Stacks by twenty

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Speaker 1: Fire News Room Michael has it go