1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: We just watched Luca carry a team to the NBA Finals, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: And as you just said, and I've been thinking about it, 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: this is the time of the year when guys get right. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: We're about to have like a week off with the 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: All Star Game. We're about to have that time where 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: everything kind of ramps up. And so Luca now has 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: this three four weeks. What kind of chip on his 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: shoulder do you think he has? 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: Now? 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: He has a crazy chip. And I could tell by 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: his professionalism and press conference like they're asking him questions 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: like what do you think about Dallas management? He stops 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: and he laughs, Oh, he's pissed off. 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: And you made a great point. You're with the. 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: Guy that's forty one years old and knows how to 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: take care of his body. You can get to see 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: what he does and maybe he's going to be like, 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: hey man, people calling you fat, Let's try this for 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: a week, Let's do this, Like Lebron, what do you eat? 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: How do you do this? How do you do that? 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: And Lebron, like you said, they're going to be trading 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: secret and he's in LA and you know he got 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: all the hoop around him. His jersey is number one 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: and Lucah Luca. So he has a you know, brand new, 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: brand new confidence. Oh, he's pissed off and he's gonna 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: come back in in shape and he's going to put 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: up some numbers and listen. For them, it's a win 28 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: because if they make the playing game, let's just say 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: they win one series. 30 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, La and New York is the same thing. 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: It's the same thing. 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: I just I don't even think the season matters for 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: La because so we have never had a twenty five 34 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: year old that's made five first team All MBS. It's 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: never happened. And he's doing things that are Will and 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Oscar and Lebron. Those guys are not available. They're not 37 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: We've never seen this. And now you're telling me he 38 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: just bought a house with his family. He's got like 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: a one year old daughter, and he's been the wonder 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: kid his entire life. He's been beating adults overseas since 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: he was sixteen years old. He's already taken a team 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: to the finals. He's already been a top two, top 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: three MVP vote getter. And now you this team that 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: drafted him looked him in the face and said, we 45 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: don't believe in you long term. We've never had someone 46 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: this great, this young now, with this much motivation, and 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: we've seen this Luka doncic kid. Oh, Devin Booker, you 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: want to talk trash, I'm going to destroy you. Oh 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: I can't handle the clippers in Kawhi. Here's forty in 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: a game winner. You were courtside in the Western Conference 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: finals and said, I didn't know he had that killer 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: in him. You gave a killer motivation, not on my watch. 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the one that traded the killer, 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: not me. 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: Sorry. 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: And what I like about it is, I'm watching all 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: these shows. They don't really talk about super Bowl that much. 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: The super Bowl get one segment, Luca ad gets nine segments. 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Wenby Wemby now has a running mate in Daron Fox, 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: and it's not even. 61 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: Talked about, even talked about. 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: What would if Luca called you and said, hey, big fella, 63 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: I know that you went to LA with expectations. You've 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: also been talked about with like your work ethic and stuff. 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: How would you approach this? What would you tell you? 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: I would tell them emmy stf you make them shut 67 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: the fuck up, because you know, for me and my mother, 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: who's A very wise woman told me this because I 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: used to go crazy from criticism. But she always used 70 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: to say, see if there's some truth inside the criticism 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: before you go off. Oh you'll never you never win 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: a championship if you don't hit free throws. She might 73 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: be right. So what do I do? All Right, I 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: gotta I got average forty, then I got I got, 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: I got to dominate. So we're told bad than if 76 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: I miss sixty five six three. Those wanting matter. So 77 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: he's gonna have to listen to all that stuff. Okay, 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: you're not in shape. You may have to start eating salad. 79 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: My boy. Oh he goes to the wine bar, you 80 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: may have to chill out on the wine. He does this, 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 3: and he does that. He was at fat camp. Now 82 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: you just got to shut him up. And I commend 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: him for being super classy because he's a better man 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: than I am being super classy. So they get get right, 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: get healthy, and just take over. 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: It's of all the conspiracies that have come out. Oh 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: this is to improve ratings in the NBA. Oh this 88 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: is because, as you mentioned, there's the Dallas thing where 89 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: maybe they want to do a casino. All these things 90 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: when you hear these conspiracy theories, my first thought is, man, 91 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: that's how bad of a trade was for Dallas. Like 92 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: that there we have conspiracy theories. Do you believe any 93 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: of it or is it just fun conversation. 94 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: I think it's just fun conversation. But in the treachery 95 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: of the business of basketball, which people just come out 96 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: and say, like I want Nico to say, this is 97 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: why we trade him, like nobody's really given an answer, 98 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: Like we want to know. Derk wants to know, Mark 99 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: Cuban wants to know. All of Dallas wants to know 100 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: why you trade one of the best players in the league. 101 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: So one thing, the one thing that I can take 102 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: from Nico's press conference that commented at it was he 103 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: kept mentioning culture, and he kept saying defense wins championships. 104 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: And it sounds like from everything I've heard and the 105 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: reports that are coming out that it sounds like they 106 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: were worried about giving this guy so much money because 107 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: he already had so much control down there in Dallas, 108 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: and they didn't think his work ethic was something that 109 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: you build around. Nico was Kobe's guy. It sounded like 110 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: they didn't believe in them long term. 111 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 3: Okay, well say that then yeah say it so and 112 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: so so. Other people can't get likes by making up 113 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: bs conspiracy theories because once one of these conspiracy theories 114 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: catches leg, now you got a whole other conversation, a 115 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: whole other explanation. Now, I want a guy that could 116 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: stop a guy, or want a guy that's first team 117 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: All NBA five years in a row, and and and 118 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: averaging twenty eight and only gonna get better and has 119 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: that dog in them Richard, I'll take the guy at 120 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: that average twenty eight. And that's why you know, I 121 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: don't you know, talk to Chuck all the time because 122 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: I've been a part of it. You have to have 123 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: timely stops. You have to have guys that want to 124 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: play defense. But like, for example, my guys are Rick Fox, 125 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: James Posey, like they were known as defensive players, but 126 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: they weren't. They They were not the Gary Payton type 127 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: of defensive players like Gary. When you talk about Gary Payton, 128 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: Gary Payton locking you Now, My guys are just play hard, 129 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: have timely stops, and then you know, drive and bring 130 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: them to me. We get a time If you can 131 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 3: have two or three, four or five timely stops, especially 132 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: when when you have a lead and they can give 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: you momentum. That's what it's gonna take. Like you talk 134 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: about oh like like like like Boston, like they're not 135 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: known for defense, but their team, their team plays great defense, 136 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: and they have timely stops. When they beat Dallas, they 137 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: had a lot of day they don't let Luca get 138 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: off and they have four or five possession where Luca 139 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: had to pass the ball and do it like. Those 140 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: are timely stops. So again, you give me four guys 141 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: and give me timely stops. I still need one or 142 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: two guys that can put that thing in a hole 143 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: and averaging forty. I'm going with that all the time. 144 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: So you know, again that was just another excuse. But 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: I'd rather just have some balls and come out and say, 146 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: hey man, we didn't believe in them. 147 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: I'll say this too. February twenty fifth, MAVs at Lakers 148 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: TNT Tuesday night. You me and get. 149 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: Wait, you know what, I am not leaving that desk, and. 150 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now to our friends at Draftkicks, 151 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: I am going to love making a parlay with Luca 152 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: drop and forty. Lebron's gonna have like ten dimes. I 153 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: might even put some bets on Luca drop in fifty 154 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: that Night's how confident I am. 155 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: Are they playing in Dallas? No, it's in La Okay, 156 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: oh even worse. 157 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Even worse, because that place is gonna go nuts nuts. 158 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: You know what I would do if I was if 159 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: I was at uh, if it was at Dallas, if 160 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: I was Luca, I just sit on the bus until 161 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: the time of play again. I won't come in arena. 162 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: You're not gonna see me for warm ups. I'm gonna 163 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: just sit on the I'm. 164 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Gonna get ready before I go already. 165 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, just sit on the buzz and just listening to 166 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: all the hate mail and then say, Luca were about 167 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: to run out, didn't run out. That's how I would 168 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: do it. 169 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Luca hits like a huge three and then lifts up 170 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: his jersey and he's like, I'm too. 171 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: Fat, Yes exactly, Oh yeah? 172 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: What like? 173 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: So hold on, I'm curious, Like you went to Miami 174 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of people doubting you from La. 175 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Did you notice that, I know, like you joke around 176 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: about the body fat tests and stuff when you had 177 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder from Lakers Miami How did 178 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: did you change? 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