1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Hello and welcome, 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Straight Fire. It's back, baby, Straight Fire 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Back Wednesday, March sev. Got some good football stories today. 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: I've got a great interview coming up with my man 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Joe forton Ball. He is at ESPN doing a bunch 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: of gambling stuff, so we chop up the n c 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: A tournament. Fun fact, Joe Forton Baugh is in my 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: fantasy football league, and uh, we'll talk a little bit 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: about that. He's he's a nice guy and his profiles 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: raised going to ESPN, so we'll get a dig into 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: that a little bit. We will get to the NFL first. 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: I need to remind people who tweeted at me and 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: who saw me at my kids school drop off and said, 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: do not stop straight Fire. Apparently I need to bring 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: the fire people like that. And I guess I didn't 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: realize this. Rob G can probably clue me in. But 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: when this ad is promoing in the Herd podcast and 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Gottlieb's podcasts and the Odd Couple, everybody hears my annunciation 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: on straight Fire, and Rob G, I didn't realize. I 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: guess it's playing at nauseum as the podcast continues to 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: blow up and we're huge, big deals in the podcast world. 22 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: So Rob g Um, what are your thoughts on just quickly, 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: the annunciation of fire. Um, it hurts my ears when 24 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: you say fire like that sometimes, and you know, I 25 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: do have to deal with it in the after after 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: production editing, So you don't know how many times America, 27 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: I've actually had to lower the volume of Hinds saying 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: fire and it's still four times as loud as the 29 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: next word that he comes out of his mouth. So 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: I feel bad. So I'm louder than your three year 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: old daughter right now. One and a half and yes, one, Okay, 32 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: got it. I want to start the podcast briefly with 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: the phrase pipe dream. Okay, this will come around and 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: you'll like this story. So before I started the website, 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: before I got the Fox, before l a all that, 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: I worked at this magazine called US Weekly covering celebrities 37 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: and I had I was at the time dating my 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: now wife. But of course it was fun when like 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, the magazine calls calls, or you're in the office, 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: like hey, Jason, Katie Holmes is going to this thing tonight, 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: can you go interviewer? Of course, quite sure, Hey, Jason, 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Um this actress, I don't know if you're that familiar 43 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: with her work, Jessica Alba. She is promoting this movie 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: and they're taking a boat ride to um the Statue 45 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: of Liberty for the premier. Can you go on the 46 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: boat and interview Jessica Alba? I mean, of course, yes, 47 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: a million of times. Yes. You know, I was a 48 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: young guy and um, Jessica Alba, so obviously I had 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: the girlfriend. We were living together. The idea of a 50 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: pipe dream is I'm gonna go interview Jessica Alban. She's 51 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: gonna like the cut of my jib, you know, And 52 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: that's a pipe dream. Another one from the s Weekly days, Uh, 53 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: there was a Maximum party. Of course, the maxim parties 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: were legendary to the point where my buddies and I 55 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: don't think their wives listening to this would lie to 56 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: their wife and fly out to the super Bowl with 57 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: me to party at a Maximum party and a Playboy party, 58 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: and so it was just that good. And I go 59 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: to this Maximum party in New York City and you know, 60 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: us Weekly is hanging out and there's a lot of 61 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: the reporters I'm friends with, our friends with these you 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: know some of these actors and actresses and up to 63 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: the table, you know, I turned around and this, you know, 64 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: this girl walks and like, oh my gosh, it was 65 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: this goodness gracious and it's Sophia Bush, who was on 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: that show One Tree Hill. Now I didn't watch One 67 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: Tree Hill, and as I remember it, Sophia Bush and 68 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: I just like hit it off, start talking. I'm like, 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: is this really happening? You know, You're talking to someone, 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: and then like you can see out of the corner 71 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: of your eye that people are like looking at you, like, 72 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this guy, this shlub, this like brown 73 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: kid is talking to Sophia Bush and she dressed up 74 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: for a Maxim party and you know, all this stuff 75 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: and form like ten minutes. You're like, oh my gosh, 76 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: this is cool. That is a pipe dream, ladies and gentlemen. 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: And I just want to say the Chicago Bears officially 78 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: whipped on their pipe dream Russell Wilson. Now, Russell Wilson's 79 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: partly to blame for naming the Bears, but I'm not 80 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: gonna blame Russell Wilson because think about what the Bears 81 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: did when they lost in that playoff game. To the Saints, 82 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: that embarrassing loss where they could do nothing, an unwatchable 83 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: garbage playoff game. The GM came out, I think it 84 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: was like within three days after the loss and said, 85 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: as far as the plane at quarterback to get where 86 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: we want to go, we definitely need more out of 87 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: that position. Everything is on the table. Okay, this is 88 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: a franchise that Trabinsky won the starting job. He was 89 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: awful by week three, benched for Nick Foles. Foles comes in, 90 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: is okay, they get somehow to five and one, then 91 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: he gets hurt. Trabinsky comes in and I'm gonna put 92 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: leads them to the playoffs and air quotes because they 93 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: back into the playoffs losing eight of eleven. So this 94 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: whole playoff trip is a joke. And now they're picking 95 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: twentieth in the draft as a result and can't stiff 96 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Of course, the GM in the off season 97 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: is everything's on the table at quarterback. So Bears fans 98 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: are geeked. Oh, maybe we get into deshauw Watson sweepstakes. 99 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: That is a pipe dream. Hey, Russell Wilson mentioned us, 100 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: maybe that can happen, Ladies and gentlemen, Another pipe dream 101 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: and if you missed all that obviousness, Peter King came 102 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: out like ten days ago. It was like the Bears 103 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: are screwed. What did the Chicago Bears do on Tuesday? 104 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: Bring on Andy Dalton, Yes, sirree Bob, come on down. 105 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is going to battle Mitch Trobinski for the 106 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: starting job at quarterback for the Chicago Bears. Rob g. 107 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: I never thought I'd open the show with an Andy 108 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: Dalton Mitchell Trobinsky quarterback battle. So that's why I worked 109 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: in the Jessica Alba and Sophia Dream Sophia Bush pipe 110 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: dream stuff. Do we what more do we need to 111 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: say about the Bears? Like they are a dumpster fire 112 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: because you know this means five or six wins, maybe seven, 113 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: because the Lions are really going to be bad. And 114 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: then you're looking at a fired coach and a fire GM. 115 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: You're looking at picking around probably and you're gonna have 116 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: to just start to cycle over. The Bears are who 117 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: we thought they were, their garbage. Yeah, I would agree 118 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: with you, and I think you know the big takeaway 119 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: from your Chicago is twofold number one. It means that 120 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: Ryan Pace and and Matt Nage are dead men walking, 121 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: So you might as well get your resume ready right now, 122 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: go to indeed dot com or something like that and 123 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: try to I know a good real estate agent actually 124 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: in Chicago wants to hit me, so they're they're on 125 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: their way out sooner rather than later. Number two, and 126 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: this is coming from me as a Raiders fans. It 127 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: means that nobody want that Khalil Mack trade because the Bear. 128 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: The Bears made that deal thinking that he was gonna 129 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: be the difference. It's gonna put them over the top. 130 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: They had a mediocre quarterback in Mr Bisky, but at 131 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: least if they could ride a all time defense with 132 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: an all time pass rusher that they might be able 133 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: to make some noise. And he's a very good player. 134 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: But as we're finding out more and more in today's NFL, 135 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: if you don't have your quarterback, it doesn't matter if 136 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: you're I need a twenty second time out, rob g. 137 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how you can lose a trade get 138 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: to the playoffs twice the other team doesn't get to 139 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs like somebody's got. There's gotta be a winner 140 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: and a loser. I don't think you can say it's 141 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: a total draw. Right, maybe Chicago one in penalty kicks, 142 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: uh if that's allowed, or it was like a you know, 143 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: Chicago bowled a spare and uh the Raiders got a nine. Yeah, 144 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: I just went to bowling. Um first bowling mentioned in 145 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: the seven month history of the podcast. I don't see 146 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: how the Raiders can can can can call this a draw. 147 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders, by the way, we're gonna get 148 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: to your Raiders in a second. I don't know what 149 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: the freak they're doing talk about back to the drawing board. Um, 150 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, like Khalil Mack had a good run, Um, 151 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Trabinsky was a with But this is this is the 152 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Bears that they they have basically been a letdown since 153 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: the eighty five Bears won the Super Bowl. I think 154 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: they've had a couple of playoff trips, one Super Bowl 155 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: trip with Rex Grossman, and they still don't have a 156 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Yeah. I mean, well, if you want to 157 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: break it down to that level of detail, then I 158 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: guess you was say that the Bears want just because 159 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: they made the playoffs. But I think if you were 160 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: to do it relative to expectations, like when they made 161 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: that trade, because they thought that they were a Super 162 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: Bowl contender and that he was the difference. And and 163 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: again it's not his fault, you know, It's just that 164 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation was. It was a dumpster fire, and 165 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, the Raiders not to do much better. They 166 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: got exactly one pro bowler out of it, and Josh 167 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: Jacobs and all that free agent cap space that they had, 168 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: none of the guys are still on the roster. So 169 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: I guess that if you would breaking then yeah, I 170 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: guess the Raiders lost that one. I think you convinced 171 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: me in like a minute, Yeah, the Raiders. It wasn't 172 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: super clothe, it wasn't a knockout. It was a tact. 173 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't a marvelous Marvin Hagler knockout. By the way, 174 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: Rob g over the weekend, the passing of Marvelous Marvin Hagler. 175 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Did you go on YouTube and look up some of 176 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: his knockouts? No, but I I got inundated with that 177 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: first round of Haggler hearns unbelievable. I went to you, 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: I went down here. I sometimes I go down a 179 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: rabbit hole with boxing, and I went down this rabbit 180 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: hole of uh, look up marvelous Marvin ha Bler Verse, 181 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: John the Beast Mugabi a great boxer in the eighties 182 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: before your time, and these guys just that was real 183 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: boxing in the eighties. And those guys are throwing a 184 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: maker's toe to toe, unlike this Mayweather stuff now where 185 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: he just dances around the ring and collects fifty million 186 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: bucks or whatever it is. Um, it's not really boxing anyway. 187 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: I went off the track there, um, and now I 188 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: forgot where I was. Uh, take it, take it away, Rob, 189 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: do you I forgot wrong? I got all excited about 190 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: Morvin had Well, let me just wrap it up with this. 191 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: As far as with the Bears, I mean, you know 192 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: there there, they screwed themselves, you know, like they put 193 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: all of their eggs in their basket and he said 194 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: they were gonna swing big, and they whipped. You know, 195 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: they thought that they could get Russell Wilson because he 196 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: put them on his final four list of ladies that 197 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: if he were to leave his wife, that's where he 198 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: would go. And they convinced themselves, you know what, we're 199 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna be the ones. We're gonna be the only ones 200 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: who are gonna be willing to go all in. Of 201 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: these four teams who we believe have the asset to 202 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: do it, and it just didn't work out for them. 203 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: And and now it didn't even come close. I haven't 204 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: heard any deal that was remotely close. Yeah, and then 205 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: the more you look at it, you you've realized that 206 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: while all they really had was the aforementioned Khalil Mack 207 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: and a bunch of draft picks, So I don't know 208 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: if a bunch of non early draft picks, they aren't 209 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: going to get your quarter exactly. So so now not 210 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: only are the Bears in a bad situation because they 211 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: have basically conceded that they're going to be a five 212 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: six win team next season, but Seattle and Russell Wilson 213 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: in particular, they're in a situation now where they have 214 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: to kind of crawl back to each other. And it's like, hey, 215 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: we both had a role in this infidelity in this relationship. 216 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: You know, I was texting some guy while you were, 217 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: you know, a set sliding and some girls d m 218 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: s and and we both acknowledge that we had a problem, 219 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: so hopefully we can work it out. And so I'm 220 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: more fascinated actually by what's going on in Seattle than 221 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: and with Chicago bro it ain't good. Seattle lost their 222 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: best cornerback on an already awful defense. They cut Dunlap, 223 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: who was their best edge rusher. I mean they added 224 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: Puna Ford, who I don't or maybe they kept Poonaford. 225 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm not even familiar with his work. They added the 226 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: kid Witherspoon, the cornerback from the Niners. By the way, 227 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: forty Niner secondary is just hemorrhaging humans. Uh, it's bad. 228 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: But at Seattle definitely did not get better. They lost 229 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: where there running backs. I don't see how Russell Wilson 230 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: saves the day. I mean, I'm not ready to go 231 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: super hot take and say Seattle misses the playoffs because 232 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: the NFC has some major question marks. But there's nothing 233 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: inspiring about this team right now. I don't I don't 234 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: see where the optimism is. And you're right, Russ by 235 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: making this declaration kind of nuked him. And now it 236 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: almost feels like a fate accompany that Russell Wilson and 237 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: the Seahawks will have a bad year and then Russ 238 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: will leave after next season, as several reporters have speculated, Um, 239 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: can we quickly go back to your raider's rob G 240 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: I just want to pilog what the hell is the 241 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: game plan? I mean, you guys dumped two really good 242 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. The offensive line arguably is one of the 243 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: biggest strengths of the team. Oh, they dumped four really 244 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: good offensive they they as of right now, Wednesday, Marches seventeen, 245 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: they are down from what their week one projective starters were, 246 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: starting right tackle who they traded to the Patriots, Trent Brown. 247 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: They cut Richie Incognito, which apparently that they're going to 248 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: try to bring him back in a lower amount, so 249 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that. He was the right guard. 250 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: They are releasing their starting center, who was their only 251 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: Pro bowler on that offensive line and a team captain, 252 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: and and anyone who watches the team knows that he 253 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: calls just so many audible as Derek car does, so 254 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: that that's an issue. So Hudson's gone, and they're playing 255 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: this game of chicken with their other guard, left guard, 256 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson, where they want him to take a pay cut. 257 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to take a pay cut, so they're saying, 258 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: if you don't, we're gonna cut you. But rather than 259 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: just going ahead and cutting him, they're letting the market 260 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of dwindle and say, look, nobody else has any money. 261 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: You have no choice but to take this pay cut 262 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: and come back. So even if they are able to 263 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: keep him, that is just a terrible way to do 264 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: business with anybody, because that you know so much of 265 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: sports and in life anyway, relationships matter. You brought this 266 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: up on the Pot a bunch of times with Urban 267 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Meyer and some of the situations he got himself into. 268 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: If you burn bridges with the people that you have 269 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: to work with or that you have to see every day, 270 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: how is that conducive to to success in any kind 271 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: of way. It's not um to pile on the Raiders. 272 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: They are in a division with the Chiefs who went 273 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: to two straight Super Bowls, the Chargers, who I have 274 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: as a buy team next year they're going to the playoffs, 275 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: and the Denver Broncos, who, according to depending on who 276 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: you read, the Broncos are still in the mix for 277 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. I don't know if you saw that again. 278 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: It's speculative stuff. I'm not gonna mend And the guy 279 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: that came from because we were friendly, I asked him 280 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: to come on the Pot. He's like, I don't do 281 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: other people's podcasts. I have my own. Now. I was like, okay, 282 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, uh, but he's pretty plugged in. I like him. 283 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: We've sparred plenty of times on TV. He's plugged in. 284 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: But uh, he's claiming Denver's in the mix for Watson. 285 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: We will see on that. But if they get Watson, 286 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: your Raiders, by the way, are looking at a four 287 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: or five win uh season, and then I don't know, 288 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: if you talk about dumping Gruten, it'll be I guess, 289 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: like four or five years into his ten year deal, 290 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: which we knew was a disaster, but they needed it 291 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: to sell tickets in Vegas. All around disaster. All right, 292 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: One final note before we get to our guest. I 293 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: have been asked to participate. As you guys know, I've 294 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: into college basketball gambling. I was asked to participate in 295 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: a college basketball Calcutta. And if you've never done one, 296 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: it's basically the teams are auctioned off and some teams 297 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: go for big numbers, some teams go for little numbers, 298 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: and you know you can't. You don't. Only it's not 299 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: a winner take all. It's if your team gets to 300 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: the sweet sixteen. Accounts for this and if your team 301 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: gets to the final four and blah blah blah, super fascinating. 302 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Uh there's like six professional gamblers in this thing, Like, Uh, 303 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: it's a step up in class for me. I'm excited 304 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: for it. Uh. If you have any advice or you've 305 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: been in a Calcutta sliding into the Instagram d m s, 306 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: drop me a tweet. You guys don't where to find me, 307 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: but I'm always looking for good information. And speaking of 308 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: good information, let's get to our guest, ESPN's Joe Forton Baugh. 309 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 310 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 311 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 312 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. Jason likes to 313 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: think he knows everything when it comes to sports. I 314 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: know what sports stands want, but for everything he doesn't, 315 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: he knows the guy who does. Let's just say I 316 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows another guy. All right, let's 317 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: welcome into straight fire a guest who I've known probably 318 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: for a decade. Fun fact, he's in my fantasy football league. 319 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I think he wanted in year one or year two, 320 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: and all these people were like, who the hell is 321 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: this guy you invited Jay from from the Bay Area. 322 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: He's killing us. Joe Forton Baugh, How are you, Joe, 323 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: my man, I'm doing well. It's always the pleasure to 324 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: speak with you. It's crazy that we have known each 325 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: other over ten years now. I got the crazy ebbs 326 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: and flows in that league though, it's either I'm right 327 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: there for the title or I'm right there at the 328 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: bottom of the list. There's no middle ground with me. 329 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: It's a keeper league. We have not invited Matthew Berry, 330 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: who is Joe's colleague at ESPN. Joe, by the way, 331 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: was just a radio guy when we met, and now, 332 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: holy hell, I mean you were actually doing that website. 333 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: What was it, uh, Football Football Post, National Football Post. Yeah, 334 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: that's when we met. Then to radio, then to esp Yeah. 335 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: Now he's just a huge deal. I mean, he's relocal 336 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: at it to Vegas. He's probably what probably one of 337 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: the five most people in Vegas now covering gambling, at 338 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: least top ten. I mean, good news always. You're always 339 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: so nice. But at the same time, it's the same 340 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: thing with you, like when I met you, the big 341 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: lead you had all that going on, and then starting 342 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: at Fox and then climbing at Fox and boom. Look 343 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: at you now, Bro, I'm trying. You know, this is 344 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: the industry, right, You gotta have as many revenue streams 345 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: as possible. Um, and you know, listen, gambling is huge, Joe. Obviously, 346 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: we don't need to really talk to the audience. We 347 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: have a pretty large segment of the of the following 348 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: is into gambling, and so we brought you on to 349 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: do college basketball picks. I do just want to ask 350 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: real quick, you're on the ground floor in Vegas. What 351 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: are you seeing on the gambling front or because of 352 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: COVID are you not really seeing much? But we know 353 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: gambling is taking off. I joked that it's the gambling 354 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: gold rush. But being on the front lines in Vegas, 355 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? So it's, uh, Vegas is pretty 356 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: open right now. It's it's it was a big shock 357 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: going from San Francisco to here when I moved here, 358 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: and because it's too too somewhat different viewpoints as to 359 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: how the situation was gonna be handled. The Vegas has 360 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: done a pretty good job with masks. You weren't able 361 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: when I first got here to stay in hotels all 362 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: week long. They've opened that up a little bit, and 363 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: they continue to open it more. The biggest difference that 364 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: I've noticed from when I left here in twenty fourteen 365 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: until now is the rise of mobile wagering. And I 366 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: think everyone knew that's where it was going, and right 367 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: now it seems obvious, but that's the key to this 368 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: entire thing. Like in Chicago, it sounds great to go 369 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: place of bed at Wrigley Field right up until it's 370 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty degrees outside on an NFL Sunday and you're waking 371 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: up trying to get your action down. And when I 372 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: was leaving here, mobile wagering had started. It was becoming 373 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: a thing. And now it's everywhere, I mean apps for 374 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: days with people taking advantage of it. So the rise 375 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: of technology has really made it a lot more efficient. 376 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: In my opinion. It's to the point where if I 377 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: have to travel with the wife and kids during some 378 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: sporting event, I have the wife drive and I can 379 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: just follow the game on my phone, jump into the 380 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: bedding and do live wagers. Honestly, I mean it's crazy 381 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: right now. Now obviously we want to say gamble responsibly, 382 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: but not really on the nt A tournament, right Joe, 383 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean this is you let it all hang out? 384 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: I mean I I got a lot of action so 385 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: far on the tournament, Joe, I want to start. Do 386 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: you have any tried in true strategies that you go 387 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: in with, whether it's twelves over five or fade the 388 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: conference championship winners that everybody's hot on. Um. There's certain 389 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: coaches you like, like a Dana Altman Um anything you 390 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: got off the top. There's a lot of stuff like that, 391 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: and you hit on a lot of key ones. The 392 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: one of the overall keys though, is like we can't 393 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: overthink this. There's going to be so much information, right, 394 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: Like we get the bracket on Sunday and then every 395 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: single day, all day, we're consuming everything from a bracket 396 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: perspective and from a gambling perspective. Sometimes all that jib's 397 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't right. Like in the gambling community, right now, 398 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: everyone is playing two key teams that continue to jump 399 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: out Ohio over Virginia and at the same time, Santa 400 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: bar Braa over Craton, Like those are two really popular 401 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: plays where you've seen the line move. Now, how much 402 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: do you want to do with that in your bracket? 403 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: Because while those teams could win out right they're both 404 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: sizeable dogs as well. So what I like to do 405 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: from a bracket perspective, and when I'm trying to identify 406 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: quality teams, Ken Palm is obviously a very big resource. 407 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: Top twenty in defense, top twenty in all offense. Who 408 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: are the teams that stack up well? Who's battle tested 409 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: in terms of Big ten schools? Look like they should 410 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: be a real threat this year based on going head 411 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: to head with one another? And then um one of 412 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: the other keys for me is how far do you 413 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: go in your conference tournament? You don't need to win it, 414 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: but the really elite teams Fifteen of the last twenty 415 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: two years, the champion has made it to their conference final. 416 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: So the teams that fall short, I might highlight them 417 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: just to say, be a little bit cautious. Baylor Iowa 418 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: would be two teams like that, But I'm not gonna 419 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: use that one criteria to write them all. So those 420 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: are just a handful of things of looking at all. Right, 421 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: let's start with a fun one, most likely seven or 422 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: ten seed to take down a two some of the 423 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: options Oregon over Iowa. I think that's probably a little 424 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: it's starting to get public. I'm definitely on Oregon. Uh 425 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: Yukon over Alabama. Um or this is a little crazy. 426 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: Maybe Rutger's over Houston. I feel like Houston's flying under 427 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: the radar. People just don't know about them, or they're 428 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: not giving them respect because they're Houston. Okay, So I 429 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: think you're right with the most popular one would be Oregon. 430 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna be sleeping 431 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: on them. With the Brackett in terms of that, I mean, 432 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: they're twenty five to one to win this region. Now, 433 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: if you absolutely love Gonzaga, I can completely understand based 434 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: on what they've done this year, but I do think 435 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: it's twenty five to one. You might have a little 436 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: bit of value on Oregon. Losing to Oregon State and 437 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: getting knocked out I think had a lot of people 438 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: sour on them. I think people are suspicious of the 439 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: Pact twelve to begin with. We don't see them putting 440 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: out a bunch of great teams like the Big Twelve, 441 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, even the SEC this year with 442 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: l s U, Alabama, Arkansas, legit, like absolutely legit. Go 443 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: back to that game Oregon lost Oregon State. Oregon State 444 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: couldn't miss in that game. I think they shot over 445 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: fifty from deep. Oregon State shot from deep in the 446 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Pact twelve tournament. I would earmark them for regression. I 447 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: like their under against Tennessee in the opening round, but 448 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: I would say if any seven is gonna win a 449 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: couple of games, Yukon stands out a little bit if 450 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: they can get by Maryland because they're coming in hot. 451 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: But again, if I feel like, and I don't know 452 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: where you land on this, I feel like every time 453 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: I try to make a play against Alabama, I'm on 454 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: the wrong side. I did like l s U plus 455 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: the points because it was too much in the SEC 456 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: title game. But I've been I haven't fully bought into 457 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: Alabama and they continue to prove me wrong. So I've 458 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: got to be cautious there. That's a spot where I've 459 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: gotta be careful. Yeah, it's tough because I like Book 460 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: Night a lot. I mean, who doesn't. He's a lottery 461 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: pick with Yukon, and and listen, everybody has their what 462 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: they look for, right. You need great guard play. Obviously, 463 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: senior guards helps a star who can get your buckets. 464 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: And obviously the coaching is is important. And I like 465 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: Nate Oates a lot man at Alabama what he's done there. 466 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: When you watch them play, and I know a lot 467 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: of people don't watch the SEC regular season. Life is 468 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: too short to watch January college basketball. But Alabama on 469 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: the wing, they can match up with anybody. I mean, 470 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: they're really fungiable on the wing. They could guard, you know, 471 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: one can guard to four, you can switching on everything. 472 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, like that's a team. I'm a 473 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm a twenty bracket guy, and feel free to mock me, 474 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: but I definitely think in like you know, probably a 475 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: quarter of my brackets, Alabama's coming out of the East. 476 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm not a believer in Michigan at this point due 477 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: to the injury. So every year, right, like you and 478 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: I go back, we're close in age, so we know 479 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: it's highlighters and pens. Highlighters and pens are the two 480 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: most important tools this time of year. Right, So that 481 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: feels like the bracket that's gonna be the messiest, Like 482 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: that's the quadrant right there, because Michigan feels like the 483 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: most vulnerable and the ones because of the Isaiah Livers injury. 484 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: Then you look at who they could match up with 485 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: that second game against the L s U. St. Bonnie's winner. 486 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: That's not gonna be easy. Then you can be facing 487 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: f SU, which has sleeper potential. But after losing to 488 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech in the a SEC final, I think some 489 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: people are soured on them, but a lot of metrics 490 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: point to them possibly running deep. You've got um Texas 491 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: in that quadrant, which I love Texas at plus eight fifty. 492 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: I've got them coming out of that region uh in 493 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: several several matches. If you're looking to go a little 494 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: bit down the board, I think they went on that 495 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: COVID pause in January and they came off and they 496 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: promptly lost three straight. They lost Oklahoma, they lost the Baylor, 497 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: they lost Okay State. Everyone forgot about them. Now they're 498 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: playing well. They've won five straight, they won the Big 499 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: Twelve tournament. They played good defense, they can shoot the 500 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: three Shaka Smarts are really good. Head coach, we've seen 501 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: him run deep before. I think some people have started 502 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: sleeping on them. Plus eight fifty to win that quadrant. 503 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: I think there's a little value there. I love love, 504 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm with you on Texas. Let me go back to 505 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: the L. S U. Bonaventure game, right, So I know 506 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: Woads pretty well and we worked together back in the day, 507 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: and he is like the champion of the Bonnies. He 508 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: loves them. And I looked at their ken pom. Have 509 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: you looked at who they played? They played nobody that's 510 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: a big and Joe, I don't know how we can 511 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: accurately get a read on the Bonnies. Okay. I looked 512 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: at the opponents they played right till Bones Highland from 513 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: v c U and the kid Grady from Davidson are 514 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: basically the two best players they faced this year. L 515 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: s U has two guys better than anyone they've seen 516 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: all year in Thomas and Watford. I think St. Bonaventure 517 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: could have major problems with l s U. But how 518 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: do you read the teams that didn't play anybody in 519 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: the nonconference? The Bonnies aren't the only one, by the way, 520 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: do you trust them heading into March? Okay? So Santa 521 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Barbara is like that as well, Like there are a 522 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: lot of these smaller schools that are becoming very popular 523 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: to bet in the opening round because they're getting a 524 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of points. They're good teams, they can knock down threes, 525 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: they can shoot free throws, but again because of COVID 526 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: This year, we have a completely different handicap for two reasons. 527 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna be in Indiana, right, so it's like neutral 528 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: across the board. There's not gonna be any major travel. 529 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: Everyone's dealing with the same thing with the quarantine. And 530 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: then on top of that, the small schools that did 531 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: not play big time competition to get tested here and there. 532 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: That's what stands out. How do we cap that? Do 533 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: we think that's gonna make this a chalkier than normal year. 534 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be a situation where there's more ups 535 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: because maybe we're doubting these teams. I think ultimately it's 536 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: gonna neutralize itself out. We're gonna have some upsets and 537 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: then we're not gonna have others because because when I 538 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: always have to remember and this came out, I remember, 539 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: this was the logic I was using when those props 540 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: in Vegas started getting posted of Gonzaga Baylor versus the field, 541 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: and like, initially I was like, oh, Gonzaga Baylor, these 542 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: two are legit. And I thought about it for a 543 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: little bit and realized this is these are still college kids. 544 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: It's a forty minute game, and I think Oregon. Oregon 545 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: State proves it more than anything else. Oregon State got 546 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: red hot, Oregon couldn't knock down their shots, and that's it. 547 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Forty minutes, it's one and done. So ultimately we're still 548 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna have some upsets. I'm banking on the fact that 549 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: some of these smaller schools, maybe they didn't play big 550 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: time schools, They're still gonna find a way. Someone's gonna 551 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: get hot and in forty minutes it's gonna work out. Yeah, 552 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. You mentioned you CSB, so 553 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: I haven't really given all of my stuff out yet. 554 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: I do this talk to line show for Fox Digitalie 555 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: we do. We're doing a Wednesday, so I've saved some 556 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: nuggets for that. I'll just say one thing. Have you 557 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: looked at the teams playing in Lucas Oil Stadium? Okay, 558 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: football stadium? We know. The narrative is the college kids 559 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: are used to small venues. You go into a football 560 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: stadium and all of a sudden, the backdrops different and 561 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: they struggle. Creighton is a three point shooting team. I'm 562 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: gonna be fading Creton at Lucas Oil Stadium against UCS B. 563 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: I kind of like U C S B. Do you 564 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: put any stock in the football stadiums. I know there 565 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: are some numbers out there that say it's not a 566 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: huge difference. But you know, Joe, you and I have 567 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: the eye test, We have a memory. You know that 568 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: kind of matters. I remember a certain Baylor Duke game 569 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: back in the day, uh that that that had a 570 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: factor in their your thoughts? Okay, So with that, we 571 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: always seem to talk about that when we get to 572 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: the Final four, because they move into the massive venue, 573 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: they're playing on the platform court. You have these big 574 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: tavernus arenas. I discuss it, I don't put a ton 575 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: into it because I think everyone's dealing with it, even 576 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: the teams that have played in bigger venues, they haven't 577 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: played in venues this big. And ultimately, again it comes 578 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: back to the fact to their kids, there's going to 579 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: be nerves. I would be more willing to try to 580 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: figure out the handicap of not having people in the building, right, 581 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: does that affect the underdog because when you play in 582 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: these big spots, you can't tell me a couple of 583 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: years ago when Virginia loses as a one seed, three 584 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: years ago when they lose as a one seed. If 585 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: you don't have a crowd getting really excited to support 586 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: the six team and you start to feel that pressure 587 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: of the world as everyone's rooting against you, you take 588 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: the crowd out of the equation. I think you have 589 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: an easier chance eliminating that underdog factor. Underdogs thrive on 590 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: that on that energy in the building is everyone's change. 591 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: You're knocking down shots, and conversely, the good teams feel 592 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: that pressure. You eliminate that. As a good team, it's 593 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: easier to call time out, settle your players, and get 594 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: them going. And it's tough for for the young team 595 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: or i should say the dog to stay fired up 596 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: because they don't have that crowd to feed off of. 597 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: I think that I'd be looking at that cap more 598 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: than i'd be looking at the big venue cap. Okay, interesting, now, 599 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: let's let's bring that forward. Have Do we know how 600 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: many fans are gonna be at each venue? Um? And 601 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: is it gonna get larger as the tournament goes on? 602 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: That's something I have not questioned this this world we're 603 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: living in. It's like, hey, NFL season starting, so the 604 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: Niners are gonna have no one and they're also not 605 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: allowed to play in San Francisco. And then meanwhile, the 606 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: chiefs are gonna be a thirty percent capacity. Keeping up 607 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: with this stuff has been tough. Man, That's what That's 608 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: what creates opportunities for betters, but also it's what creates, 609 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, an additional workflow as you try to navigate 610 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: through all this. I think we're probably gonna have some, 611 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't imagine it's gonna be a lot, 612 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: given the protocols in place and the fact they don't 613 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: want to jeopardize, you know, the financial revenue of making. 614 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: Because we just had the news about Georgia Tech. Pastor 615 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: was just talking to the media saying someone in the 616 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech traveling party as tested positive for COVID. Now 617 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: he won't say if it's a player, he won't say 618 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: if it's supports staff. But they they've got to be 619 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: tight with this. And one guy gets it and he 620 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: comes into contact with another team on the court. You 621 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: put people in the building as well, it's gonna make 622 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: it very challenged. Man. Wow, that stinks. So that could 623 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: so what happens they would get sub doubt for um, 624 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Louis Louis Louis yeah, I think Louisville 625 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: is the first team in on the subs. That's what 626 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: I like. I'm not positive. I would still bet Loyola. 627 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: I already bet Loyal against Georgie Tech. I would still 628 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: bet Loyal against Louisville. Probably. Let me quickly go back 629 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: to the Lucas Oil Stadium because as you were talking, 630 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: I looked this up. So the best three point shooting 631 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: team in the country Baylor. They play the first game 632 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium on Friday at three pm. I 633 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: don't want to say that's a test, bunny, but I 634 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: mean they're gonna route Harford. We know that. I think 635 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: it a favor by but I will be curious to 636 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: see if Baylor doesn't shoot well, Perdue doesn't shoot well. 637 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: You know, Craighton is top fifty in the country and 638 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: three point shooting, and we know if you can get hot, 639 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: like you said in Oregon State, that could be a 640 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: springboard to who knows what. Um. Let me ask you 641 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: about the one and done guys real quick, Joe Um 642 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: better chance at making a run. Evan Mobley at USC 643 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 1: or Kaide Cunningham at Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State is like 644 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: it's like bitcoin two days ago, right, like the highest 645 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: price that we've seen. Now. That's not to say that 646 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: they can't keep running. But if cunning Ham's the guy 647 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: I I I would say of the one and done, 648 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: he'd be more likely to get his team deep because 649 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: USC is gonna get the winner of Wichita State Drake. 650 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: Drake was a two point dog, it's now at one. 651 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: I like Drake. I like Drake to win that game. 652 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: I think they could come in and give USC some 653 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: problems as well. Not picking the upset there, but I 654 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: think USC runs into trouble earlier than Oklahoma State does, 655 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: and Liberty is a good team that they're gonna face 656 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: in the first round. I might take Liberty on the line. 657 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: I think Kate cunning Ham will be too much. But 658 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a better game than a lot of 659 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: people realize, all right, So they hopefully that's something to 660 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: help you guys with your brackets with the gambling. He's Joe, 661 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: famous guy in Vase. If you see him, and I'm 662 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: sure you know you're rolling with the pocket squares, I 663 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: see what you're doing on the Graham with the pocket squares. 664 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: Joe is basically famous in Vegas and congrat on all 665 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: the success, Joe Uh to you and your family, and 666 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure i'll see you were pretty soon. I love you, buddy, 667 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: same thing to you. It's been fun watching you rise 668 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: on your side of the equation. I'm trying to do 669 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: my thing on my side, and it's always nice every 670 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: now and again we can meet in the middle and 671 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: have these conversations. I appreciate it.