1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: It's a late fifteen to ten touched up shock. 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 3: Guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly. 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: Hopefully you're watching or listening to this on vacation with 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: family friends. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: Fourth of July. 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 3: It feels like we're a long ways away for football, 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: but money, as you alluded to last week, I know 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: we are, but we're not because you said it two 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: weeks ago. Two weeks from now, rookies are going to 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: be at the Bolt getting ready for training camp. But 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 3: right now it does feel like we're in no man'sland. 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: Right yeah, lass than sixteenth, it's coming. The rookies officially 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: report the twenty third, so twenty days from when we're 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 4: recording this right now. 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: Veterans report. 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: Hopefully they're enjoying the final stretch of their time off 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: before they get rolling between now and all the way 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 4: through what we hope is mid February, a big celebration 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: and that culminates in a Super Bowl championship. There's just 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 4: not a lot out there because they're not allowed to 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: make contact, so there's very very little that's going on. 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: Really. 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: The only thing I know you did a little bit 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: of football work this week. I'm just going through film 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: and for the most part, free agents, so I want 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 4: to get through all the guys they've signed, and this 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: week was running backs and tight ends. So I went 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 4: through three Will Disley games, Rams game, what else I 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 4: can't remember, the three games, Rams games, Steelers game, and 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: something else that they played last year. And then I 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 4: went through Hayden Hurst from not last year. I didn't 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: want to see him with Carolina just because that was 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: such a hot mess. I went back to his Cincinnati 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: year in twenty two and went through the Ravens and 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: the Steelers games. Got to see some real physical contests. 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: And then I watched JK from twenty two as well 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: and Edwards from last year. So that's kind of what 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: I put in some work, just trying to get an 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: idea of what, you know, how it looks, what they 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: do well, and you know, how excited we should be 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: or whether we should have some tempered enthusiasm about what 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: they were doing out there on the football field. 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: Buddy, what'd you see from Disley? 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: Because we've talked about the offseason that Hurst has had, 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: we talked a little bit about the running backs. 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: I feel like Disley has. 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: Been maybe a little bit forgotten in this grand scheme 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: of things. 50 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: But he had a productive ee lesser with the Selams. 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 4: That's I'm glad you started with him because that's of 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: all the guys I watched, that was the one I 53 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: was like, man, this and I think to put it 54 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: in context, look, not every tight end is capable of 55 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 4: doing what he can do, and I think it's unfair 56 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: to try to say. You know, when I watched Will 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 4: first and then I watched Hayden second, and it just 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: it's the contrast is so great between the way they 59 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: run block. And it's not that Hayden Hurst can't run block. 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: He was capable, but Disley excels. Oh Detroit. I watched 61 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 4: the Detroit game, and that's where it really popped. He's 62 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: out there on an island with Aiden hutch And and 63 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: he's holding his own and he's ceiling and he's opening 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: things up for Walker to find lanes and so he's 65 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: it's going to be different than anything we've seen in 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 4: the last four years. 67 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: It just he is. 68 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 4: When Coach Bishaw said it that there are maybe three 69 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: guys that can block the sea, and Will's one of them. 70 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: He wasn't lion. 71 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: He can really really block and they move him around 72 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: a lot. They had him lined up in the backfield, 73 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: they have him in motion, they have two tight end 74 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: sets where he's the inside tight or they have two 75 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: tight ends stacked outside the strength of the line and 76 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: he's the inside guy taking on the defensive end while 77 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: your other tight end is taken on the linebacker or 78 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: the safety that's out there. And he made a couple 79 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: of really nice catches. I think he was under used 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: in the passing game that he was wide opening the 81 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: seams and Gino just was not throwing in the ball. 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: Whenever the ball came his way, he caught it. Whatever 83 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: was thrown his way, he caught and had some really 84 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: good game. So I'm excited about will Disley. There's there's 85 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: a lot to like there and something that we have 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: not seen in quite a while. And I think there's 87 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: a reason why when he was brought up in the 88 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: presser with with Justin Herbert, he made a point to say, 89 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 4: and hey, he's not just a run blocker. Now he 90 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: can catch because he was running some really nice routes, 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 4: had a real good red zone rep that culminated in 92 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 4: a touchdown, and and yeah, he can catch the ball. 93 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: He can high point. He is comfortable with contact and 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: secure in the ball. He's got good hands. So that's 95 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 4: that's what I'm real excited about. That's a heck of 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: a signing, and I think that's gonna Like you said, 97 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: we have not talked about it a lot, Chris, but 98 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: that's one that that I think is going to go 99 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: a long way for this team. 100 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: Well, think of the two of the first three games. 101 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: You have Max Crosby and TJ. Watt, and we have 102 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: seen Trey Pipkins on an island with Max Crosby the 103 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: last several years. So to have a player like Disley, 104 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: who has not been on the Chargers' roster the years, 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: to help a slater or to help it all with 106 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: some of these all pro rushers, I mean Crosby and 107 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: what you throw Miles Garrett in there, maybe the three 108 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: best in all the NFL. You have two of them 109 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: to start the year in September. So just that added 110 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: element and then also just the underrated part of his game. 111 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: We talked about the offseason that Hayden Hurst has had 112 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: catching the football, but this is another guy with Justin 113 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: Herbert throwing him the ball that can really man. These 114 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: are one of these these pieces, these kind of X 115 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: factor pieces that maybe you're not talking a ton about 116 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: right now, but throughout the course of the year, like 117 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: this is gonna be an invaluable piece of this offense. 118 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and again I wanted to to make sure I said, 119 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 4: it's just the order in which I watched, which is 120 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: why it was such a drastic difference. But let me 121 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: say this, So I watched the two games I watched 122 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 4: for hayden Hurst while he was with Cincinnati were the 123 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 4: two gnarliest games play every year, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. And 124 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 4: so you're talking about the most physical fronts that he's 125 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: trying to contend with. But to see the difference when 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: he had to put his hands on TJ. Watt and 127 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: when Will Disley put his hands on TJ. Watt was 128 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: interesting in those games. Though in the Baltimore game, you know, 129 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 4: far be it for me to criticize Joe Burrow, but man, 130 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: he really could have used hayten Hurst Moore. And when 131 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 4: he used him, he had one catch over the middle. 132 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: He was about to get lit up by a safety 133 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: who was sizing him up, and he's running down the 134 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 4: scene and on a bit of a crosser right in 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: front of the end zone and burrow led him a 136 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: little bit too far, so he's he's he knows, I'm open. 137 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: I am open for a freaking hit of the century 138 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: right now. But extended his hands, snatched that ball out 139 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: of the air and I want to say scored a 140 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: touchdown on it if I remember right. But it was 141 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 4: a beautiful play and he ended up picking up critical 142 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 4: first downs. 143 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: He like. 144 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: It was a really good game for him against Baltimore 145 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: and one of the reasons why the Bengals were in 146 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: it till the very end. So that's the thing to remember, 147 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: is not tight End, you know, this week with tight 148 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: End University, or last week whenever it was with Greg 149 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: Olsen and George Kittle and Travis Kelcey, those guys run it. 150 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: It's a reminder that there's a lot of different ways 151 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: to play the position, and I do think these two 152 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: play it a little bit differently, but it's it's got 153 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: They're going to compliment each other very very well. And 154 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: those two games, I'll say I thought Hayden Hurst played 155 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: really well for he had another one I want to 156 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was the Steeler game or 157 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 4: the Baltimore game, where just in the end zone, got 158 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: a p I penalty and sold it like he was 159 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 4: able to shield his defender and force him to come 160 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: over his back even though there was no chance for 161 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: him to catch the ball. Ended up getting the flag 162 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: and the Bengals end up getting a first and goal 163 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: from the one. So very excited about what both of 164 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: them are going to bring out. It's going to be 165 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: the best tight end room we've had since we Hayden Hurston. 166 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: I think it was Haydenhurst, since we had Hunter Henry 167 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: and freaking hh Hunter Henry, and I want to say 168 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: Virgil Green was the blocking tight end that year when 169 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 4: Jajeor Greeley excelled and and had some good things happening. 170 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: The thing about Hayden Hurst, we touched on this when 171 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: he was signed, the trajectory of his career, so he 172 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: was a first round pick. Mark Andrews was the guy. 173 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: He just became the guy. So he wasn't featured in Baltimore. 174 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: You know, you bounce around, go to Atlanta, Cincinnati, Think 175 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: about Cincinnati. 176 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: All those wide receivers. 177 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: When you have Higgins and boy did Jamar Chase. You 178 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: can't be featured there. You know, you got to Carolina 179 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: it's a disaster. Uh, this is an opportunity for him 180 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: to be featured with an elite quarterback. I think a 181 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: little bit more too so A lot of times with 182 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: these guys, it's about fit. It's about the opportunities that 183 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: you have, uh in the offense and the fact that 184 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: Keenan and Mike are gone and they're kind of finding 185 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: their way in terms of wide receiver and to have 186 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: this combination of kind of two different tight ends that 187 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: Justin can utilize in different ways. This could be a 188 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: nice thing for Hayden Hurst. And when I talked to 189 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: him when he shortly after he was signed, he talked 190 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: about the fit and how perfect it is for him 191 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: to be in a Baltimore Ravens type atmosphere with a 192 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: horrorball Joe Ortiz, who was there and was a big 193 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: part of him being drafted to Baltimore, and then having 194 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: a quarterback like Justin Herbert who I mean, listen, if 195 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 3: you get open, you know and pretends you got to 196 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: find you. So the tight end room is going to 197 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: be fun this year. Money and you know, I just 198 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: keep going back to the blocking aspect of this is 199 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: the office is just going to look completely different this year, 200 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: having the guys that can actually do that, And like 201 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: you said, hayden Hurst may not be Will Disley run blocking, 202 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: but he can still do it. And I feel like 203 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: that was really lacking in the titands room for the 204 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: last several years. 205 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll tell you I didn't go I should 206 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 4: probably watch some of the Atlanta year because I wanted 207 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: to pull up the stats so I had him right, 208 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: because I remember digging in and I was like, Okay, 209 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: that's Matt Ryan's last year. And you got Calvin Ridley 210 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: who got one hundred and forty three targets and had 211 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 4: that monster year that year he had ninety catches for 212 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: thirteen seventy five and nine touchdowns. And then Russell Gage 213 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 4: had that breakout year as well, seventy two for seven, 214 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 4: eighty six and four. But how about how about the 215 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: catch percentage from hayden Hurst that year eighty eight targets, 216 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: fifty six receptions on his eighty eight targets, goes for 217 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: five seventy one in a career high six touchdowns. And 218 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: that's with a veteran pinpoint passer Matt Ryan, you know, 219 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: And that's a little bit more of you know. And 220 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 4: again for Burrow, He's just so good. I mean it 221 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: was it was wild to watch him and we think 222 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: about we're going to see him this year. Just the 223 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: things that he sees and how quickly he goes through 224 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: his progressions and five he's always looking for the kill shot. 225 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: He is not interested in checking down. He got his 226 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 4: absolute he got hit the crap kick out of him. 227 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 4: The offensive line was terrible, and just his willingness to 228 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: stand in there and deliver these balls fifteen twenty yards 229 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: downfield to Boyd and Higgins and Chase Man that is 230 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 4: you want to have some fun, go back and watch 231 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: them Joe Burrow highlights, because that dude has got stones, 232 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 4: I mean straight freaking stones for the abuse he was 233 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 4: to and look might be taking a toll on him, right. 234 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: He talked about that this offseason that when he had 235 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: this last injury, it kind of caused a little bit 236 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: of pause and he's thinking about the toll that his 237 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 4: body's taken. So I'm interested to see if he adjusts 238 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 4: a little bit, because man, he was getting absolutely lit up. 239 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: And you play in a division with the Browns that 240 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: the Steelers and the Ravens, He's probably going to have 241 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: to adjust a little bit. 242 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had a ton of injuries, just really from 243 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: the beginning his rookie year and you know, justin for 244 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: the most part, for the first few years of his 245 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: career pretty clean, and then the last couple of years 246 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: just different issues throughout that I think they have hampered 247 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: his ability and his performance. But I tell you it's 248 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: July third. If you guys are in need of football, 249 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: all right. I turned on The Hard Knocks with the 250 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: Giants off season yesterday and I found it pretty, pretty 251 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: fun and pretty interesting. 252 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: Is it? 253 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: Joe Shane, the GM of the Giants, is really he's 254 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: the He's the main character in all this and Brian 255 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: da balls in it, and they're finding they're trying to 256 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: identify new defensive coordinator. They know Daniel Jones is coming 257 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: off an injury making forty million dollars a year, and 258 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: the first episode really kind of sets the stage for 259 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: free agency and what they're going to do with Saquon 260 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: Barkley and how much they're going to pay them, and 261 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: it's just a room of scouts. Assistant GM, is it? 262 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 3: Brandon Brown, the assistant GM with the Giants, who was 263 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: a finalist for. 264 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: The Charges Job Finals for the Chargers. Yeah, yeah, he 265 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: was in it. 266 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: And they're, you know, they're all talking about Saquon and 267 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: how much money they can they can allocate to Saquon 268 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: knowing that Daniel Jones is making forty million, and they're 269 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: going through all the undrafted free agents and how much 270 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 3: they think that those guys are going to make. And 271 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: I just kind of put myself into the Chargers room 272 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: and I wish we had Joe Ortiz and Jim Harball 273 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: and Chad Alexander all at a room talking about all 274 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: the big crucial decisions that they had to make this 275 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 3: offseason with Mike Williams and Keenan Allen and Joey Bosa 276 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: and Khalil Mack and where do you allocate your money 277 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: and where do you move move on from? So if 278 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: you're in need of football, it was really cool. There 279 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: was a conversation between Dan Morgan and Brandon Bean and 280 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: UH and Shane at the Senior Bowl and they're all 281 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: kind of joking around, like, Hey, you want to you 282 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: want to trade up to six to Dan Morgan. He's like, no, 283 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: you guys have anything, I'm traded back. And then Brandon 284 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: be It's like, I don't have the money to trade up. 285 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: I don't have the money for the pick. Yeah, and 286 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: then Morgan kind of nonchalantly goes, you want Burns for 287 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: two first rounders, and Shane goes, oh, he goes, he goes, 288 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: I do, but two first rounds? He goes, well first 289 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: and maybe something, you know, And that's kind of like 290 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: the cliffhanger to the next episode. 291 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was it was fun for me. 292 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: To seek that end. I have to check it out. 293 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: Picture the Chargers in that scenario, because the Chargers had 294 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 3: even more crucial decisions to make with the new staff 295 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, parting ways with Keenan and Mike 296 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: I think was difficult for some people. But now you 297 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: kind of see the end result of what they want 298 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: to do and who they want to be. And here 299 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: we are, July third, a couple of weeks from a 300 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: brand new era Charges football money. 301 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at it, and I think it's I 302 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: think it's similar to I think you can draw a 303 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: parallel between the Mike Williams Saquon Barkley situations where when 304 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: they're fully healthy, and I think that's something to remember. 305 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: It's not it's not just looking at the game totals 306 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: like Saquon's last three years, he's played thirteen sixteen, fourteen games. 307 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: But it's it's how product are they? Are they healthy? 308 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: You know? 309 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: Are the last year Saquin didn't have a great year, 310 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: even though he played fourteen games, it was a bit 311 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 4: of a down year for him. And I think you 312 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: look at Mike and it's very similar. It's like, yeah, 313 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: you look at the last three years, and obviously last 314 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: year lost him for the entire year after Week three, 315 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: but prior to that, it's thirteen, sixteen, fifteen. But those 316 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: injuries pop up at the worst times and they're not 317 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: one hundred percent and they can't quite give you everything, 318 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: and it's it's it's. 319 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: A tough puzzle. You know. 320 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: The idea that you got to sign Saquon to this 321 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 4: four year which was really a three year extension, and 322 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: he's going to count ten twelve million bucks against your cap, 323 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: and just every year you feel like you're going through 324 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: this this this same you're on the same cycle. And 325 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 4: I do believe that the Chargers and Mike Williams that 326 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: that was a very similar conversation. Hey man, when he's 327 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: out there, he and Herbert are an exceptional pair man like, 328 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: he is exactly what we need, and he is the 329 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: explosive receiver speed notwithstanding you don't need it because of 330 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: how well and how accurate Justin is with the football 331 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 4: and how good Mike is at winning fifty to fifty 332 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: and contested catches. So I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision. 333 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 4: But then when you bring in the money, it is. 334 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: And that's why I think when those opportunities weren't necessarily 335 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: out there for him, you started to hear, oh, he 336 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: could come back, that they are absolutely open to bringing 337 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: him back. They just couldn't do it at twenty million, 338 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: and then you know, he ended up getting to the 339 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: thirteen or fourteen million, whatever that number was with the Giants, 340 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: and it's or with the Jets, and it's like, yeah. 341 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: That's it's not going to happen. 342 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: And those other tough decisions people think it's they insert 343 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: an emotional component to it, and in business, you cannot 344 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: be emotional. That's how you make bad decisions. You must 345 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: operate without emotion, and it has got to be a 346 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: straight and it's heartless. 347 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: And I get it. 348 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: These guys sacrifice their physical well being for you, so 349 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 4: you want there to be some, but when it comes 350 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: to trying to put this financial puzzle together, the pieces 351 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: don't always fit. And I would assume that's what both 352 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: Joe Shane and Joe Ortiz would tell you about those 353 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: two players. 354 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's perfect. 355 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: It's a segue to the money allocation, right, Joe Shane says, 356 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: I can't have a forty million dollar quarterback handing off 357 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: to a twelve million dollar running back. I need to 358 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: protect the forty million dollar quarterback. So that was basically 359 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: what everybody in the room came to. It's like, we 360 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: have to protect Daniel Jones to see if he even 361 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: is the guy. He's making forty million dollars a year, 362 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: so you like him to the Chargers. I have a 363 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: fifty million dollar quarterback that I need. I need the 364 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: receivers around him, just I need the turbot to elevate 365 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 3: those guys. I can't have two twenty five million dollar 366 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: wide receivers. It just the money doesn't work. As far 367 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: as the backfield's concerned. You mentioned it last week with Eckler. 368 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: I can't have an eight to ten million dollar running 369 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: back right now, knowing that we have a fifty million 370 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: dollar quarterback and we need to protect the quarterback. So 371 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: that's why you get these bargain deals of Gus Edwards 372 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: and JK Dobbins. And they were going through the list 373 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: of guys like Eckler and Singletary and Josh Shacups and 374 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 3: kind of going like, Okay, how much is this guy 375 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 3: going to make in the open market and are they 376 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: a fit? Are they game changers? And there wasn't a 377 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: ton of game changers out there, but what Joe Ortiz 378 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: was able to do is get two guys he's very 379 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: familiar with, one really with a chip on his shoulder 380 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: looking to prove that he is one of the elite 381 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: backs coming off of injury, and JK Dobbins and a 382 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: guy who's proven and Gus Edwards behind a pretty good 383 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: offensive line. So the allocation of money, it made a 384 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: lot of sense to me. With justin making fifty million 385 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: dollars a year, this is why we have to do 386 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: the things that we did. Offensively, We keep Khalil and Joey. 387 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: We have four edge rushers now. And that was another thing. 388 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: Last thing and I'll pass back to you money was 389 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: the new defensive couardaor of the Giants goes in front 390 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: of all the scouts, tells them what he needs what 391 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 3: makes his defense go. He's like, I need to have 392 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: my inside backers as the smartest guys on the team, 393 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 3: and I need to have like four edge rushers. We 394 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: need to have like four edge rushers to make. 395 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: This thing go. 396 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: And again I think back to, Okay, we got we 397 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 3: got Joey and Khalil, That's why we brought those guys back. 398 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: We have Tully, we just got Bud Dupree, we. 399 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: Have Morgan Fox. 400 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: So you look at what each you know, like defensive 401 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: cordator needs for their scheme to make it home. And 402 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: I thought that was a pretty cool element to it, 403 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: was seeing the defensive coordinator in front of all the 404 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 3: scouts before the draft saying these are the guys I 405 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 3: need to make the defense successful. And then the scouts 406 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: can go and be like, all right, so these are 407 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: the grades we have. This is what the coach needs. 408 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: And then that's kind of how they make their decisions 409 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: in the drafts. 410 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Look, it's tough, man. There's a reason why 411 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: the NFL is the most popular sport far and away 412 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 4: in America. Part of it is what you know, we 413 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: like the violence we love it. It's a compelling product, 414 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: but it's also the parody. They have managed to create 415 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: a league that is unsurpassed in parody. And that's the difference. 416 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: That's where they really separate from baseball and from basketball 417 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 4: and from college football, where you have no idea. Do 418 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 4: you feel pretty good about the Chiefs. Yeah, But at 419 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 4: the same time, look at their path. The idea that 420 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: the Chiefs are gonna that are they're running rough shot 421 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 4: over the league. 422 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: They're not. 423 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: Man, those two playoff games against Buffalo and Baltimore, they 424 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: were not blowouts. Baltimore blew it. They should have absolutely 425 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: won that AFC Championship games. A Flowers with a complete 426 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 4: brain cramp at the goal line and Lamar Jackson with 427 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 4: the most ill advised pass into the end zone. Well 428 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: that he throws for a pick Like, It's not like 429 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 4: they blew him out by three touchdowns. Yes, they won 430 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: three of the last four Super Bowls, but man, it 431 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 4: has been by razor thin margins on their path there. 432 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: So that's and the reason for it is what we're 433 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 4: talking about. You can't keep your guys, you can't sign everyone. 434 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 4: You've got to figure out how to make it work. 435 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: By making sacrifices. It's certain positions and certain position groups 436 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: where you've got to ask rookies to play, or you've 437 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: got to find veteran minimum players off outside of the 438 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: first and second round and big money free agents. You've 439 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 4: got to figure out how to put that puzzle together. 440 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: And everybody does it differently, and that's what leads to 441 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 4: styles make the fight, and how Tennessee does it is 442 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: not how Kansas City does it and how the Chargers 443 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: are going to do it this year. It's not how 444 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 4: the Bengals are going to do it this year. And 445 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 4: you get to see him clash on the field and 446 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: which style of fight wins. And that's that's I think. 447 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: The one thing. And Jim Harbaugh did a great job of. 448 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: Sharing it of the importance of it, and you just 449 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: elude you just mentioned it, Chris. In the protection up front, 450 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: the offensive line is no different than the defensive line. 451 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: When you hear. 452 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 4: Coaches talk about, yeah, if you have got a great 453 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 4: pass rush, I can get it in average secondary. If 454 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 4: you've got a great offensive line, we can have average receivers. 455 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: You can't cover them. 456 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: You can't stick to guys for three four seconds. It's 457 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 4: just not possible. They know where they're going. You don't, 458 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: and everyone's an exceptional athlete. If you've got an offensive 459 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: line that can run, block and pass block, well not 460 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: play action's gonna work that much better. And now you're 461 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 4: you're going forward when you should be going backwards, and 462 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: you get burned. And so that's that's what we're talking. 463 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: That's what coach Harball was talking about, and why they 464 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: drafted Joe Walton, why they signed you know, why they 465 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 4: signed free agents, so why they invested in Zion Johnson, 466 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: and why they're going to try to kick Trey Pipkins 467 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 4: inside and not cut him and try to save that 468 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: nine million bucks, you know, to go spend it elsewhere. 469 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: And that's that's what I'm excited about. That that when 470 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: you have a dominant offensive line, you have a chance. 471 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: I don't think there's Look what happened to Patrick Mahomes 472 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl that Tampa just wrecked him. What 473 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 4: did they do the very next offseason? I mean, they 474 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 4: invested heavily in the offensive line because they know, all right, 475 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: well we can't win without it. So that's what goes 476 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 4: into it. I'm looking at the rushing stats from last 477 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: year and it's it's wild to. 478 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Look at it. Right. 479 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: You've got Raheem Moster, David Montgomery, you know, Najie Harris 480 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: on a rookie deal, and DeAndre Swift and all these 481 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 4: you know who was signed to somebody was traded for 482 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: a low round pick and Kyron Williams a fifth round pick, 483 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 4: you know, and they're in there with Christian McCaffrey and 484 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: Derrick Henry. You know, big money back, so you can 485 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 4: get it. You just you gotta you gotta get a 486 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: little bit of luck, and you got to do your 487 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 4: evaluations right, and you got to have a solid offensive 488 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: line and you may not have to hand Saquon Bark 489 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: with forty million. 490 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: Bucks and calculated risks. And that's what Joe Ortiz did 491 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 3: with JK. Dobbins. You said you watched some Dobbins and 492 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: Gus Edwards money this week. What did you see from 493 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: Dobbin's specific when he was healthy, because that's the expectation 494 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: hopefully at some point in September. 495 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, three down back, that's what you see. He catches 496 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: the ball really well, and as soon as that ball's 497 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: in his hands, he's gone. 498 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: And that's what it's all about. 499 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: It's about snatching the ball and then getting positive yardage 500 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 4: after it. It's not necessarily the hands when it comes 501 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 4: to running backs, but it's the transition and how quickly 502 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 4: can you transition to being a runner from a catcher. 503 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: And that's essentially what makes elite wide receivers elite wide receivers, 504 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: especially tight ends at that position. And one of the 505 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: reasons why people were so excited about brock Bowers because 506 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: the second he catches the ball, he's like a wide 507 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: receiver and he's. 508 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: On the move. 509 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: And that's one thing I noticed with Dobbins is as 510 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: soon as that ball was in his hands, he's making 511 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: the first guy miss. He is already he's got that 512 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: vision to look downfield. We already know how good he 513 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: is as a runner. Does not go down on first contact, 514 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 4: has patients, waits for the hole to open, has burst, 515 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 4: is able to has wiggle. He's the whole pack man. 516 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: He is the entire pack good in pass protection. So 517 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: that's and now look a lot of that was the mesh. 518 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: So many they ran a ton of pistol and and 519 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: there's a lot of you know, you've got the most explosive, 520 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 4: you know, weapon at quarterback when it comes to running 521 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 4: the ball. So those defenses are all they're on the 522 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: pause for a second because they don't know if it's Lamar, 523 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 4: if it's the back. So that certainly helps. But that 524 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 4: was that was what jumped out to me, is that 525 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 4: he is he's he's man. If he's healthy and if 526 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 4: he still has that sort of explosion, you're you're talking 527 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 4: about a Saquon Barkley level runner. That's he because he 528 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: can catch and they'd line them out wide and he'd 529 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 4: run routes and he'd catch the ball, you know, with 530 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: the defender and the sideline between, you know, with the 531 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 4: sideline on one side of the fender on the other, 532 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: and he's tracking the ball and catching it. And it's 533 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: just health and Gus, I think, is a lot better 534 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 4: than people him credit for. You know, he is patient, 535 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 4: He is waiting for the right hole to Oh you 536 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 4: don't score thirteen touchdowns by accident, yeah, a handful of 537 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: them or second try goal line. You know, we think 538 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: about those Austin Eckler touchdowns when they really started piling up, 539 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, it's on the second and you know, 540 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: I didn't get the first one to go in, got 541 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 4: the second one or the third one. There's some of those, 542 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: but he's a much better running back than I think 543 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: people give him credit for, where he does have good 544 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: vision and he does make guys miss and he is 545 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 4: a very patient runner. 546 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: So I'm very excited about it. It's just can they 547 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: stay healthy. 548 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: If they can, it's going to be a really especially 549 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 4: if JK can stay healthy the whole year, it's going 550 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 4: to be one of the best running back rooms in 551 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 4: the league. People may not see it that way right 552 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 4: now because it's hard to project a guy that's coming 553 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: off a knee and an achilles and has barely played. 554 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: But if and it's a huge if, I know, because 555 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 4: of the injury history, If for whatever reason it works 556 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: out and he does stay healthy, it's going to be 557 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 4: a hell of a room. 558 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: And the familiarity with Roman from Baltimore's right. You mentioned 559 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: the web in that Lamar is and I don't think 560 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: there's really a comp to Lamar in terms of. 561 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: What he can do with his legs. 562 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 3: But Justin has wheels, and I think you asked him 563 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 3: about I did Hey, he didn't like it. Yeah, he 564 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 3: didn't like it, of course, and he's not gonna answer it. 565 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: He's not gonna answer truthfully or at all. But can 566 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: you see Justin being more of a threat in the 567 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: running game just because of all right, a more protection B. 568 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: He's proven he could do it. He did it in 569 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 3: that Pittsburgh game on Sunday Night Football few years ago 570 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: that I think helped them win the game. So the 571 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 3: fact that Greg Roman is the OC, you have JK, 572 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: you have Gusts who know this thing, and Justin does 573 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: have that dual threat capability, maybe we do see more 574 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: of a running Justin. 575 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: Herbert this year. 576 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 4: Here's what I would point to, and we've talked about 577 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: it before, is why did JJ McCarthy get drafted number 578 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 4: eleven overall? 579 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: When you look. 580 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 4: At his stats and it's twenty nine ninety one pass 581 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: yards on just three hundred thirty two attempts in fifteen games, 582 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: twenty two touchdowns. What is it that got him drafted? 583 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 4: And it is what coach Harbaughs said about him. We 584 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: didn't ask a lot of him, but when we did, 585 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: he delivered. And that's when you go down to the 586 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: rushing line and you see in twenty two seventy carries 587 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 4: three hundred and six yards five touchdowns. Last year sixty 588 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 4: four carries two hundred and two yards, three touchdowns when you 589 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 4: have to, Hey we need it, dial it up and 590 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: let's go. And some of those were designed runs. Some 591 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 4: of them were scrambles and stuff. But that's that's what 592 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 4: I think you're going to see. It's not going to 593 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: be the Lamar Jackson level. Hey we're running you know option, 594 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: We're running a mesh pistol repeatedly over and no. Because 595 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: Lamar can't throw the ball like Justin Kann, you had 596 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: to be a waste. You're better off having him under 597 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: center and run a play action that's going to that's 598 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 4: going to provide you what the mesh does for Lamar. 599 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 4: That the under center and the play action is going 600 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 4: to give you the pause from the defense. But that's 601 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: what I would point to is looking at Yeah, he 602 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: didn't throw the ball once in the second half against 603 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 4: Penn State and they won because they didn't need it. 604 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: But when they did against Alabama, hey we're down a score, JJ, 605 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: go get it. 606 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: What do you do? 607 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: He went out and got it and he made the plays. 608 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: And that's how I envision Herbert using his legs a 609 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: little bit more. We have no interest in putting you 610 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 4: in Harm's way, it's not worth it. The risk is 611 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: too high compared to the reward because you're way too 612 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: good of a thrower. You're better off just being back there. 613 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 4: But you know, we got to get to ten, man, 614 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 4: We got to figure out how to get to ten 615 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 4: to punch our ticket into the tournament. And we're down 616 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: four and there's four minutes left, or we're at the 617 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: end of the half and we got a chance to 618 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: do something here and getting a field goal range for 619 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: Cam Dicker. Let's style it up, man, Let's get after 620 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: it and catch them on their heels and you're going 621 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 4: to rip off one for twenty five yards. 622 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: I think this is going to be an interesting question 623 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: going into the training kit money is if you put 624 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: the four running backs together and you kind of split 625 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: them up in duos JK and Gus, Videll and Spiller, 626 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: what is the talent gap and what is the production 627 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: gap between those two pairs? Right Like, what is Spiller 628 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: and Videll gonna look like in a Jim Harball offense. 629 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: We really don't know because we've never seen it. We 630 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: have a pretty good idea with Gus and JK because 631 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: of Greg Roman and the fact that they're Vets and 632 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: they were in Baltimore. But the running game, you know, 633 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: for as important as it is to a Jim Harball offense, 634 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: that will be a big question going into camp is 635 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: what does Spiller look like? He Spiller is such a 636 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: young player still, Bidell's a rookie like those guys I 637 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: think have high upside and an offense like this, but 638 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: we haven't seen it yet. 639 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: To me, it's. 640 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 4: It's advanced stats, and I know some people like those 641 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 4: and some people don't. But it's rushing yards over expected. 642 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about. If you can block it, 643 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: if the if the line is as good as the 644 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: investment in it, you know suggests it should be. That 645 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 4: it is three first rounders, one a top five pick 646 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: one the second guard drafted in Zion and the other 647 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: and all pro his his rookie season. And if you 648 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: can fill those other two spots with Bozeman at center 649 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: and whomever it's going to be looks like Trey Pipkins 650 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: at that guard and they're they're just league average, then 651 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 4: you should be you know that you should be guaranteed 652 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 4: X number of yards anytime you hand the football off, 653 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: and then when you can get those expected rushing yards 654 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: versus rushing yards over expected. When you haven't a you know, 655 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: a back that can give you that extra burst, that's 656 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: what determines the success of a running game. And that 657 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: was one thing that Austin when he was at his peak, 658 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: when Eckler was at his peak, was so good at 659 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 4: is the line wasn't blocking it right. Yet Austin Eckler 660 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 4: routinely had one of the best rushing yards over expected 661 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: in the league because he would take what should have 662 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 4: been a three yard loss to a two yard gain 663 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 4: and instead of second and thirteen, you've got second and eight. 664 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: And that used to go so far, and he never 665 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: got enough credit for that of that guy just would 666 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 4: not go down behind the line of scrimmage even though 667 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: he should have repeatedly. So that's the stuff we're talking about, 668 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 4: and we'll go to determining which one of these guys 669 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: is best at that. You know, if it's if it's 670 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 4: blocked right, you should probably we're probably talking about Dobbins 671 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 4: because he's the most explosive as long as he's still 672 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 4: got that explosiveness in him, you know, post Achilles. So 673 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 4: that's you know, it's kind of getting into the weeds, 674 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 4: the math weeds a little bit, but that's the sort 675 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: of stuff that you're looking at. And I would assume 676 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 4: Keal McDonald, their new running backs coaches, is the one 677 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 4: that's going to be, you know, helping determine Okay, this 678 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: is this is how it was blocked, this is what 679 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 4: we got, this is probably what we should have got, 680 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 4: And that's how you'll determine that depth chart. 681 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: What's so confusing to me is that Isaiah s Phillip 682 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: past the eye test, like just just how he how 683 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: he played at A and M. Even during the preseason 684 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 3: he had that touchdown that I think was called back 685 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: to holding. He had a couple of huge runs in 686 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: preseason and you're you're thinking, man, this guy, this will translate, 687 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: This will translate to the regular season. Never got a shot, 688 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: Like never got a shot. So that's the most confusing 689 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 3: part of all this is he's young. We just have 690 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: not seen him get his true shot during the regular season. 691 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 3: We will finally get it, I believe this year. And 692 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: you know, we don't know what the preseason is going 693 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: to look like with starters and everything, but you better 694 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: believe that Isaiah spill is going to play a lot 695 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 3: in the preseason, and we should get a better idea 696 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: of how he may fit in this offense. 697 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: I guess yeah. 698 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 4: And again it goes back to how many they want 699 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: to carry, and and that's you would assume come onding 700 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 4: by you know, Bydell is going to be a big 701 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: part of it because they drafted him and it's very 702 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: productive at Troy and was the sun Belt. I mean 703 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: that's what he was in, right, sun Belt, Troy Sunbelt. Yeah, 704 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 4: I think so offensive player that we of the year. 705 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 4: So so yeah, you feel like those three are there, 706 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 4: right JK. Guss And and Kamani. It's just a question 707 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 4: of is it Spiller, is it Dotson? Is it somebody 708 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 4: else we're not talking about. You know, you know how 709 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 4: wild it is where you can find running backs. 710 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: You never know. 711 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 4: Austin Eckler last got to make the active roster the 712 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 4: year he made it, and he turns into one of 713 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 4: the best running backs in the league. 714 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: So Dotson, I mean, you talked about Dotson last week. 715 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: Sua Dotson. He's swol patrol man. 716 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: He's a big back, he's got explosiveness, and it's just 717 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 4: so hard to judge what he did last year because 718 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 4: nobody did anything last year in the run game. 719 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, so next week we could talk a little bit 720 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: more about this brand new facility, the bolt in Elsa Gundo. 721 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: It's it's gorgeous. 722 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 3: I got a chance to look at it a couple 723 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: of months ago when when Joe Alt was given his 724 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: tour at the end of April. 725 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: So much has happened since then. I know that ready 726 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: out there. It's it's ready to go. 727 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: The media is going to get a shot to look 728 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: at it next week, and I think fans the following 729 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: weekend are going to get a shot to check it out. 730 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 3: Durre in an open house so we can dig in 731 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 3: a little bit more into this brand new facility. That's 732 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's perfect. It's perfect for an NFL team. Man, 733 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: it's just everything coming together with hardball here in his 734 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: first year. It's gonna be a lot of fun of 735 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: training camp. It won't be as big as Jack Hammett 736 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: in terms of the crowds because the capacity will allowed. 737 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: I think they're cabinet fifteen hundred. 738 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 3: But if you get a chance, you got to get 739 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: out there check that out, and then you know, we 740 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 3: say we're kind of in. 741 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 2: The weeds with football. 742 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 3: But in two weeks the rookies are going to be 743 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 3: in the building, as Money said, so we'll have that 744 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 3: to look forward to as well anything else before we 745 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 3: let the folks enjoy their Fourth of July, I don't think. 746 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: So. 747 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 4: Don't blow your fingers off people, you know. Yeah, PSA, 748 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 4: sit back and enjoy, Sit back and enjoy. There's nothing 749 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 4: wrong with a spark Well, there is something wrong with 750 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 4: the sparkler. Those things tend to give you gnarly scars 751 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 4: because you don't see it. You drop it on the ground. 752 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 4: Now you've stepped on it. You've got this giant, freaking 753 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: piping hot rod that's stuck to your foot and you're 754 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 4: trying to peel it off, and you rip your skin off, 755 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 4: and you got to find a bucket of cold water, 756 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 4: maybe a. 757 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: Little What do you do it for? The what do 758 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 2: you do it for? 759 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: The fourth? 760 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: Are you hicking around? 761 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 4: My? 762 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: Well, my family's out of town. 763 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 4: They're they're out watching my my they're out in Cape 764 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 4: Cod watching the Cape Cod League. So yeah, so they're 765 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 4: out there. Tip of the Captain mikey Ebner from from 766 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 4: sc He's was the picture of the week I think 767 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 4: last week. So they're out visiting with his family and 768 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 4: watching him and having a great time. So I am 769 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 4: flying solo, which is probably dangerous. Wow, yeah, I know, 770 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 4: so between tonight and throughout the week, although it's probably 771 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 4: not because this the waves are supposed to be really good. 772 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 4: There's a swell coming in, so I would imagine I'm 773 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 4: going to be in bed early and out there at 774 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 4: four thirty five in the morning tomorrow or the fourth 775 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 4: of July and the fifth of July, so that probably 776 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 4: will keep me in check and I'll be the haven 777 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 4: a little bit. 778 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see, you're right, thirty five minutes 779 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 3: of foot thirty five minutes of golfings a PSA, and 780 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 3: then I think everybody should just keep eyes on money. 781 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 3: If you're if you're around, be carefully keep eyes on money. 782 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: He sold Life's not here to keep me in check, 783 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: so I could uh get a little sideways. You wouldn't 784 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 3: do another podcast on the fourth? 785 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, right. 786 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 4: If you see me, just do me a favor, like 787 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 4: find some cardboard or something and put it over me 788 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 4: so I stay warm. If I'm passed out on a 789 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 4: sidewalk somewhere, that'd be great. 790 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 2: Let's end it there for buddy. 791 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: I'm Chris Happy fourth of July Chargers Bands. 792 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.