WEBVTT - The Devil Weed

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans. Do you want to join me here?

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<v Speaker 1>Whence you be seated, please, Ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to summarize for you the meeting that

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<v Speaker 1>I have just had with the bipartisan leaders, which began

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<v Speaker 1>at eight o'clock and was completed two hours later. I

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<v Speaker 1>began the meeting by making this statement, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be made to the nation. America's public enemy

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<v Speaker 1>number one in the United States is drug abuse. In

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<v Speaker 1>order to fight and defeat this enemy, it is necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to wage a new, all out offensive. Depending on your

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<v Speaker 1>age or interest in history, that voice and speech may

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<v Speaker 1>sound familiar to you. This is a press conference with

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<v Speaker 1>President Richard Nixon, also known as Tricky Dickey. Nixon was

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<v Speaker 1>elected president in nineteen sixty eight, and in June of

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one, Nixon declares public enemy number one drug abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Drugs and the people who distribute them are the most

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous enemies to the public. The war on drugs has begun. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>drugs are put into categories based on how dangerous they

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<v Speaker 1>are thought to be LSD and pot. The foundations of

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<v Speaker 1>the psychedelic Revolution of the nineteen sixties are considered the

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<v Speaker 1>most Dangerous Schedule one. So Nixon increases federal funding for

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<v Speaker 1>drug control agencies and proposes super strict measures like mandatory

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<v Speaker 1>prison sentencing for drug crimes. Nixon also creates the d EA,

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<v Speaker 1>the Drug Enforcement Administration in nineteen seventy three. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of it all is my dad building up

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<v Speaker 1>his smuggling business in Marine County, California. This is disorganized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Rainbow Valentine do Young, free and groovy,

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<v Speaker 1>making it up. We rolled along, rolling along far Country,

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<v Speaker 1>the Golden Ganging Dot, New York State, making it up

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<v Speaker 1>as we roll. It's the summer of nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 1>and we are living in Mill Valley. You're nestled in

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<v Speaker 1>the red wood. Just a hot producer tip. When you

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<v Speaker 1>blow your nose, put some space between the storytelling and

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<v Speaker 1>the nose blowing so I can cut it out. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even think about That's why, ah, Dad. One day

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<v Speaker 1>we'll figure out how to record perfectly. So in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one, when Nixon declares the war on drug dealers

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<v Speaker 1>and drug abuse, my dad has been living with my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and her small daughter, Vertica for a while, taking

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<v Speaker 1>on the role of father and he needs to start

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<v Speaker 1>providing for his new family. Anyway, I needed to make money.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to make money, and so I started doing

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<v Speaker 1>smaller time deals ten pounds of this or twenty pounds

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<v Speaker 1>of that or whatever. And so if you're doing it's

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<v Speaker 1>quite a small time selling a satchel here, say it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a box full of ten pounds of this

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<v Speaker 1>or and you'd sell it? Announces maybe, no, never, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do that, but I would sell at least a

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<v Speaker 1>pound that. It's you're still sort of larger. You're never small, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes over to a dealer's house who is the

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend of one of my mom's North Beach belly dancer

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<v Speaker 1>friends from the early sixties. Now, this guy sells pot,

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<v Speaker 1>acid coke. He's a reasonable sized dealer. My dad's at

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<v Speaker 1>his house and he and a bunch of other smuggler

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<v Speaker 1>type guys and music guys are playing cards when and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a knock on the door, and all of a sudden, well,

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<v Speaker 1>these cops come busting in. So they arrest me, along

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody else, and my dad has a gram of

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<v Speaker 1>coke in the pocket of his sergeant Pepperesque jacket, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a gift from the film producers of Alice's Restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>Arlo Guthrie's nineteen sixty nine cult classic that my Dad

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<v Speaker 1>was an extra. Luckily, the coat is hanging on the rack,

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<v Speaker 1>so when it's seized by the cops, my dad is

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<v Speaker 1>literally not in possession of any drugs. Dad sacrifices his

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<v Speaker 1>precious coat in exchange for freedom, and to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>he still misses it and I always look for it

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<v Speaker 1>in the San Francisco thrift's stores. My dad and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the gang are hauled down to the jailhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>but the cops let him go with a warning that

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<v Speaker 1>he'll get a summons. Says he didn't have any drugs

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<v Speaker 1>directly on him. He was just hanging out with a

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<v Speaker 1>drug dealer, and luckily Dad and I former filmmaker and

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<v Speaker 1>candlemaker from New York, was in a relationship with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most well connected people in San Francisco, my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom was a quiet, beautiful powerhouse in the inner

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<v Speaker 1>circle of the San Francisco music scene. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a jeweler for San Francisco rock Stars. She knew

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in the San Francisco sixty scene. From the rock

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<v Speaker 1>stars to the smugglers, to the lawyers, because all she

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<v Speaker 1>knew was huge time lawyers. She didn't know he's small time. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't, right, she knew all these guys, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>who represented yeah, smugglers busted for five thousand pounds of

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<v Speaker 1>pot or whatever it was, or this or that. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he got off, this arrest taught my dad

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<v Speaker 1>an important lesson. If he was going to be a smuggler,

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<v Speaker 1>he had to start taking it much more seriously and

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<v Speaker 1>become a true professional, you know, and now and talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, I could say, Okay, you've been You've given

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<v Speaker 1>up your child stuff. I was conscious enough to learn

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<v Speaker 1>to be aware and cautious about parts of things. Getting

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<v Speaker 1>busted is a smuggler's worst nightmare, and in the early

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<v Speaker 1>seventies it becomes a much more common experience because Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>has declared drugs public Enemy number one. Remember, just a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago, LST was perfectly legal, but now busting

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<v Speaker 1>drugs and smugglers is an American priority. They are the enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>In order to defeat this enemy, which is causing such

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<v Speaker 1>great concern, and correctly so, to so many American families,

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<v Speaker 1>money will be provided to the extent that it is necessary,

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<v Speaker 1>under the extent that it will be useful. The criminalization

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<v Speaker 1>of pot has a very long and very deliberate history.

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<v Speaker 1>It started in the early nineteen thirties at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of alcohol prohibition, and it leads to today when pot

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<v Speaker 1>is categorized as a Schedule one drug. Schedule one drugs

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<v Speaker 1>are substances, chemicals, and drugs that are defined as drugs

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<v Speaker 1>with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential

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<v Speaker 1>for abuse. Incredibly, cocaine and methamphetamine also known as crystal meth,

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<v Speaker 1>are Scheduled two. One of the leading experts on the

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<v Speaker 1>history of pot criminalization is my dad's friend, Bill Panzer.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Panzer has practiced law in California for over twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years and has been my dad's go to pot

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<v Speaker 1>attorney since his longtime attorney, civil rights activist Bernie Siegel,

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. Cannabis has been used, you know, for five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years, at least met medicinally, and in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened was, you know, we had alcohol prohibition in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen twenties, and when that got repealed, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Harry Anslinger who had been working on

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol prohibition for the federal government helping to enforce alcohol prohibition,

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<v Speaker 1>and when that was repealed, he was appointed head of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bureau of Narcotics, which is the forerunner of today's

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<v Speaker 1>DA Viewer of Narcotics. As a small, little federal agency,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have much of budget, didn't have much power, and

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<v Speaker 1>he basically wanted to have a job for himself, so

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<v Speaker 1>he decided that since alcohol prohibition been repealed, he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to go after cannabis when alcohol is re legalized.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, Harry Anslinger, the former prohibition enforcer, was probably

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about his job security and he purportedly starts spreading

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<v Speaker 1>fictional stories about pot, allegedly with the help of William

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<v Speaker 1>Randolph Hurst, the newspaper baron and purveyor of yellow journalism,

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<v Speaker 1>which is journalism based upon sensationalism and crude exaggeration. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>according to many historians, billionaire Hurst was on board to

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<v Speaker 1>help spread lies about pot all things pot related because

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<v Speaker 1>Hurst had invested heavily in the timber industry in order

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<v Speaker 1>to make his newspapers, and hemp fiber was proving to

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<v Speaker 1>be more durable and a cheaper way to make paper

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<v Speaker 1>than timber. Not cool for timber investments. So he and

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<v Speaker 1>his newspapers allegedly become instrumental in spreading graphic, histrionic, murder

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<v Speaker 1>rape stories about cannabis. These high school boys and girls

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<v Speaker 1>are having a hop at the local soda fountain. Innocently,

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<v Speaker 1>they dance, innocent of a new and deadly menace lurking

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<v Speaker 1>behind closed doors, marijuana, the burning weed when its roots

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<v Speaker 1>in hell. Now. The most famous piece of antiweed propaganda

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<v Speaker 1>is Reefer Madness, which is actually quite amusing. The nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six film is a megamelodrama about pot smoking high

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<v Speaker 1>schoolers whose theatrical descent into pot smoking addiction includes hit

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<v Speaker 1>and run, rape, murder, suicide, hallucinations in total madness Smoky

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<v Speaker 1>with the sole destroying refer they find a moment's pleasure,

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<v Speaker 1>but at a terrible price debt, violence, murder, suicide. With

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<v Speaker 1>help from the nation's newspaper billionaire Baron, all Harry ann

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<v Speaker 1>Slinger has to do is convince states to pass anti

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<v Speaker 1>cannabis laws, because at the time, the Fed still don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the power to do that. So in the nineteen thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>Harry embarks on a ruthless anti marijuana pr campaign, starting

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<v Speaker 1>in the Southwest. At that time, cannabis was usually known

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<v Speaker 1>as hamp or India hamp or cannabis, and he started

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<v Speaker 1>in the Southwest, where they were prejudiced against the Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>migrant farm workers who called it marijuana. He with the

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<v Speaker 1>help of William Randolph Hurst, who made up these stories

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<v Speaker 1>about like Mexican farm workers that would smoke the marijuana

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<v Speaker 1>and then rape the farmer's daughter and chop up the

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<v Speaker 1>farmer and his family would hatchet. They started making up

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<v Speaker 1>these stories and putting them in the local papers to

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<v Speaker 1>try and drum up, you know, anti Mexican, discriminatory kind

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<v Speaker 1>of attitudes and get behind making marijuana illegal. I have

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<v Speaker 1>some friends who insist on calling pot cannabis. They never

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<v Speaker 1>used the word marijuana, And when Bill told me about

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<v Speaker 1>Harry's very intentional smear campaign, I understood why marijuana is

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<v Speaker 1>a word specifically chosen to spread and incite racism. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>while they couldn't make cannabis illegal, Harry and Slinger and

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<v Speaker 1>his growing team of cannabis prohibition enthusiasts found ways to

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<v Speaker 1>make it impossible for people to legally possess it. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, they came up with this great idea that

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<v Speaker 1>although we can't make marijuana illegal. We can set up

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<v Speaker 1>attack and require people have tax stamps and then just

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<v Speaker 1>not print any tax stamps. That was the first attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to make it federally illegal, and that stood until I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was nineteen sixty eight. In nineteen sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Leary got busted driving into the United States in

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<v Speaker 1>his Volkswagen with his family from Mexico. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of weed on them. Ah. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>same Timothy Leary, former Harvard professor drug activist Millbrook affiliated

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<v Speaker 1>LSD pioneer who we talked about in the last episode. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Leary gets arrested and takes this case to the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court, stating that the nineteen thirty seven Marijuana Tax

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<v Speaker 1>Act is unconstitutional. Leary challenged the Marijuana Tax Act and said,

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<v Speaker 1>it requires you to incriminate yourself, requires me to self

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<v Speaker 1>declare that I am growing or possessing cannabis, and that

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<v Speaker 1>would violate the Fifth Amendment. And the Supreme Court agreed

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<v Speaker 1>and knocked out the Tax Act of nineteen thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and in response to that, Congress passed the Controlled Substances Act.

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<v Speaker 1>President Nixon signed the Controlled Substances Act CSA into law

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy calling for the regulation of certain drugs

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<v Speaker 1>and substances. Now, the CSA outlines five schedules to classify

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<v Speaker 1>drugs based on their medical application and potential for abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Schedule one drugs are considered the most dangerous, as they

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<v Speaker 1>purportedly pose a very high risk for addiction with little

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of medical benefits. They also come with the longest

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<v Speaker 1>prison sentence. Schedule one was supposed to be a temporary

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<v Speaker 1>placeholder for cannabis, and even a Nixon appointed committee advised

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<v Speaker 1>that cannabis should not be a Schedule one. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do with cannabis, so initially they put

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<v Speaker 1>it in Schedule one with the agreement that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to appoint a committee to research cannabis and report

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<v Speaker 1>back to Congress as to where it really should be scheduled.

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<v Speaker 1>That committee appointed by Nixon was headed by Schaeffer. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's Raymond Schaeffer, a Republican who had served in the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate and was the former governor of Pennsylvania. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Schaeffer Commission to testimony looked at the science on it

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and they came out of the report that

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<v Speaker 1>it should not be in Schedule one that the most

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous thing about cannabis was getting arrested for it. This

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<v Speaker 1>was surprising because nobody expected that result, because this was

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<v Speaker 1>a conservative committee that was basically hand picked to come

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<v Speaker 1>back and say that it's the evil weed. The report

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<v Speaker 1>Schaeffer presented to Congress was called Marijuana a Signal of Misunderstanding,

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<v Speaker 1>and in it he calls for the decriminalization of marijuana possession.

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<v Speaker 1>It even favored totally ending marijuana prohibition. But then the

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<v Speaker 1>White House just ignores it, suppresses the report and pretends

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<v Speaker 1>like it never happened. Somewhere I think I heard they

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<v Speaker 1>only printed up four hundred copies of it, the minimal allowed,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was it. Why was Nixon so anti getting

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<v Speaker 1>this information out? Like, what was that stake for him?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Nixon hated hippies and black people and Jews,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was hippies and black people and Jews who

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<v Speaker 1>smoked marijuana. Real God fearing Americans drank alcohol. So Harry Anslinger,

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<v Speaker 1>the marijuana prohibitionists, got his way. Pot and pot smugglers

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<v Speaker 1>like my dad were officially public Enemy number one. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Ramo Valentine, you're listening to disorganized crime we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the environment in which my dad started taking

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<v Speaker 1>his smuggling career much more seriously, when marijuana had been

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<v Speaker 1>totally vilified, even though a Republican Commission chairman reported that

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<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous thing about marijuana was getting arrested for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the next two years, Dad's building up his business.

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<v Speaker 1>How any freelancer will tell you, business is based on

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<v Speaker 1>who you know. And for the next few years, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad got to know more peeps and Marine in San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco through his partner, my mom. He met people through

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<v Speaker 1>music bands like The Grateful Dead. He was part of

0:16:23.005 --> 0:16:26.365
<v Speaker 1>a weekly poker game with Elton Kelly, Stanley, Mouse, David Gets,

0:16:26.365 --> 0:16:29.685
<v Speaker 1>and Big Daddy Tom donaghue, the rock and roll record producer,

0:16:29.685 --> 0:16:33.125
<v Speaker 1>promoter and rock and roll disc jockey. Anyway, Big Daddy

0:16:33.125 --> 0:16:35.445
<v Speaker 1>Tom Donahue had a Mill Valley mansion with a non

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<v Speaker 1>stop party twenty four seven, and my parents would go

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<v Speaker 1>hang out, make friends. That's how freelance business works. Biga

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<v Speaker 1>New York City transplant amidst the pot industry of Marine County, California,

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<v Speaker 1>was a major asset. My dad is a people person

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<v Speaker 1>who stays in touch with all his trust to childhood

0:16:52.805 --> 0:16:56.845
<v Speaker 1>friends still in New York. They loved getting high, making money,

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<v Speaker 1>and turning people on good pot. A thriving smuggling business

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<v Speaker 1>for Marinto New York organically evolves. Parents and big sister

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<v Speaker 1>moved from San Francisco to San an Salmo and Marin County.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the musicians and big dealers are living in

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<v Speaker 1>Marine And as my dad says, he melted into the

0:17:22.365 --> 0:17:25.445
<v Speaker 1>scene such a hippy thing to say. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I being very fortunate in the scene that I came

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<v Speaker 1>right into was at the top of the top. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was just introduced to big time people

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<v Speaker 1>and so that was that was life in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I chose. Pot was and still is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the fabric of the culture of northern California. It's

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<v Speaker 1>as common and intrinsic as church is to the South,

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<v Speaker 1>film to La or corn to Iowa. So my dad

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<v Speaker 1>was getting busier making real money. He did a quick

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<v Speaker 1>deal involving pink coke. The manufacturers of the cocaine had

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<v Speaker 1>made an error and the entire batch was pink. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't white. It was so good pink because they had

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up how they processed it. Apparently I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>this then, but they're they're, they're, they're presenting it as

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<v Speaker 1>rose cocaine, you know whatever. My dad sold a kilo

0:18:20.765 --> 0:18:23.365
<v Speaker 1>of rose cooke in one day and made four thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Four thousand dollars in nineteen seventy two is the equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>to over twenty four thousand dollars today. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>only time my dad says he sold coke. After this experience,

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<v Speaker 1>he vowed he'd never do it again because the coke

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<v Speaker 1>guys were sketchy. So the smuggler and I, he really

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<v Speaker 1>loved that I got rid of it. The next thing

0:18:41.925 --> 0:18:45.325
<v Speaker 1>he did was invite me down to He was from

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<v Speaker 1>La so he says, hey, come on down, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about more stuff. What I do remember is going down

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<v Speaker 1>there and staying at his house and sleeping over it,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the middle of the fucking night, he comes

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<v Speaker 1>roaring through carrying a gun because he thought he heard

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<v Speaker 1>somebody fucking coming through the door, which he didn't. Nothing happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but that that was it for me, you know intern,

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<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, guns, fuck this. And all these guys involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this whole scene were older guys. They all scared

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<v Speaker 1>me anyway, because they were adults and these are not

0:19:22.285 --> 0:19:24.605
<v Speaker 1>my These are not people I want to be around.

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<v Speaker 1>You're dealing with guns, you know. Fuck this? Yeah, your

0:19:28.765 --> 0:19:35.445
<v Speaker 1>world was not good. Integrity, handshakes, friendship, music, well, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. Listen, there were plenty of pot dealers who

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<v Speaker 1>were major fucking Slee's bag assholes. Also, I mean there

0:19:43.045 --> 0:19:46.365
<v Speaker 1>was lots of money rolling around, and consequently, you know,

0:19:46.445 --> 0:19:49.045
<v Speaker 1>good people were good people and bad people were just

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<v Speaker 1>But I very clearly you know that was it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Side note, Pot being a schedule one drug feels so ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>a complete odds with a collective opinion of my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents, friends, and my friend's parents, also known as

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<v Speaker 1>the Psychedelic Pioneers aka the counterculture Insider, because all hippie

0:20:07.565 --> 0:20:12.165
<v Speaker 1>elders agree that cocaine and heroine destroyed the joyful, peace

0:20:12.205 --> 0:20:16.645
<v Speaker 1>loving world famous San Francisco counterculture scene. So you saw

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<v Speaker 1>the scene, the music scene destroy destroying by artistic heroes,

0:20:21.725 --> 0:20:24.685
<v Speaker 1>by cocaine and hard drugs. Yeah, hard drugs, cocaine and

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<v Speaker 1>hard drugs. Of all these people who were all these

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I look at the whole what I look

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<v Speaker 1>back on now and look at what happened in San Francisco,

0:20:35.525 --> 0:20:38.805
<v Speaker 1>and this whole thing exploded and then got destroyed. It

0:20:38.925 --> 0:20:44.805
<v Speaker 1>exploded with acid, exploded positively and amazingly with acid, and

0:20:44.885 --> 0:20:50.685
<v Speaker 1>it was completely poisoned by hard drugs, which was despicable.

0:20:51.085 --> 0:20:55.565
<v Speaker 1>We listened to the dead behind the backstage, and the

0:20:55.685 --> 0:20:58.365
<v Speaker 1>cocaine was disgusting, and you know, and it was all

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<v Speaker 1>the shit. I grew up with very strong anti cocaine

0:21:04.285 --> 0:21:08.645
<v Speaker 1>and anti heroine rule drug rules, no cokeer heroine. But

0:21:08.645 --> 0:21:11.285
<v Speaker 1>you can totally smoke pot or like lsd yes just

0:21:11.325 --> 0:21:15.405
<v Speaker 1>come to us mushrooms. Great division quest Back to pot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nineteen seventy three and my parents are living in

0:21:17.525 --> 0:21:20.405
<v Speaker 1>Mill Valley near the library. They're a house up a

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<v Speaker 1>steep hill with over fifty steps to the front door.

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<v Speaker 1>A load called lime green Mexican comes in and Dad remembers,

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<v Speaker 1>the lime green is wonderful pot. Lots of pot that

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<v Speaker 1>flowed in was like it. Literally they called it bricks

0:21:35.165 --> 0:21:38.605
<v Speaker 1>because they were they were pressed. So it was such

0:21:38.685 --> 0:21:42.365
<v Speaker 1>poor pot to begin with, and it was pressed in

0:21:42.445 --> 0:21:45.005
<v Speaker 1>these presses that came in bricks, so you'd have a

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<v Speaker 1>two pound brick. So it ran the gamut of quality

0:21:48.765 --> 0:21:53.365
<v Speaker 1>and quality control was really important, and at that point

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<v Speaker 1>in life and time fifty years ago, the most popular

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<v Speaker 1>we all knew of and liked was a very light

0:22:01.445 --> 0:22:06.685
<v Speaker 1>green lime green Mexican sativa. It was light, it was

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<v Speaker 1>almost gold green, and was a very nice uphead with

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<v Speaker 1>no physical characteristics. So that was like the legendary lime green.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad remembers hauling fifty pound bales of lime green

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican up the fifty plus steps to the front door.

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<v Speaker 1>He did at least five hundred pounds of lime green,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a lot of steps. I remember carrying these

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<v Speaker 1>giant garbage bags, fifty pound bales up to the house

0:22:34.605 --> 0:22:37.085
<v Speaker 1>and then it'd be rolling out. But because of where

0:22:37.085 --> 0:22:39.005
<v Speaker 1>we lived, nobody could see it anyway, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>on a quiet, secluded street even though it was close

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<v Speaker 1>right downtown. So these bales would move up, they'd move down.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very funny, you know, jeez. I go back

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<v Speaker 1>to that time, I'm twenty six years old or twenty seven,

0:22:55.725 --> 0:22:59.685
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, twenty seven, you know it, gentle times and

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<v Speaker 1>lovely pot and just living in that same year, in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three, my dad lands his biggest trip so far,

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<v Speaker 1>remember trips or deals from start to finish. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>big Panama Read trip. This trip, my dad moves the

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred pounds of Colombian pot. So my parents named

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<v Speaker 1>this load Panama Read, which was a kind of generic

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<v Speaker 1>term for various kinds of pot. Panama Read was later

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<v Speaker 1>made famous by a song written by Peter Rowan in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three Animal on his later on at summer

0:23:57.285 --> 0:23:59.485
<v Speaker 1>camp in the nineteen eighties, Peter Rowan showed up and

0:23:59.485 --> 0:24:02.325
<v Speaker 1>he taught Panama Read to all the campers, and of

0:24:02.325 --> 0:24:04.485
<v Speaker 1>course I took it literally. I thought it was about

0:24:04.525 --> 0:24:07.965
<v Speaker 1>a cowboy. It's a pretty good song. It's pretty catchy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's how the first Panama Red trip worked. It's

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three. My mom is pregnant with me, my

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<v Speaker 1>big sister is between four and five, and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>gets a hold of seven hundred pounds of pot from

0:24:20.525 --> 0:24:24.325
<v Speaker 1>a Big Bay area smuggler. They're living and working out

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<v Speaker 1>of the rental Mill Valley house with the fifty plus

0:24:27.045 --> 0:24:30.205
<v Speaker 1>steps to the front door. My dad met the Brooklyn

0:24:30.205 --> 0:24:34.165
<v Speaker 1>Boys through Nicki Sunshine, the East Coast Acid King, and

0:24:34.245 --> 0:24:37.245
<v Speaker 1>the Brooklyn Boys would come over, pay my dad for

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<v Speaker 1>the product and take it to New York City in

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<v Speaker 1>big old cars with big trunks, Chevies or Plymouths. They

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<v Speaker 1>would buy it outright, drive it to New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>and then come back for more. The first Panama Red

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<v Speaker 1>trip of seven hundred pounds earns my parents fifteen thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the equivalent to more than eighty two thousand

0:24:57.085 --> 0:24:59.805
<v Speaker 1>dollars today. So my dad is working with people who

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<v Speaker 1>are surprisingly organized for disorganized crime and meticulous. Each box

0:25:05.685 --> 0:25:10.365
<v Speaker 1>is expertly packaged and exactly ten pounds. Just love this

0:25:10.685 --> 0:25:13.925
<v Speaker 1>pot because it was beautiful, absolutely beautiful, and it was

0:25:14.085 --> 0:25:18.605
<v Speaker 1>really upper stuff. It was just very pretty stuff, well

0:25:18.645 --> 0:25:22.765
<v Speaker 1>well manicured, well manicured into little buds, and they it

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<v Speaker 1>smelled beautiful, It smelled like chocolate. And it was so consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty unusual thing with hippies doing pot trips.

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<v Speaker 1>Consistency is not what they were known for in the

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<v Speaker 1>early days, necessarily, and so we ended I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>doing seven hundred pounds of it. I remember these numbers

0:25:43.365 --> 0:25:45.805
<v Speaker 1>because it was that was a lot of it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like a really pretty good amount of pot. Explain how

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<v Speaker 1>this happened and where you picked it up? How did

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<v Speaker 1>you get it? I don' understand right. So there's fishing

0:25:57.005 --> 0:25:59.525
<v Speaker 1>all over the West coast, so fishing fishing boats and

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<v Speaker 1>then fishermen. Different of these guys are approached and a

0:26:03.965 --> 0:26:07.525
<v Speaker 1>main boat would come up and be thirty miles fifty

0:26:07.525 --> 0:26:12.885
<v Speaker 1>miles offshore, and then a smaller fishing boat would meet

0:26:12.925 --> 0:26:17.125
<v Speaker 1>it wherever and off float onto the smaller boat. You

0:26:17.165 --> 0:26:22.045
<v Speaker 1>could fit ten thousand pounds on not huge boats. It's

0:26:22.085 --> 0:26:24.885
<v Speaker 1>good size, but not huge boats. So when it came

0:26:24.965 --> 0:26:27.205
<v Speaker 1>off the boats onto the trucks, it would go to

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<v Speaker 1>a central warehouse generally, unless it was so big it

0:26:30.525 --> 0:26:34.725
<v Speaker 1>had to go to several different warehouses. And then from

0:26:34.805 --> 0:26:39.365
<v Speaker 1>there I would be dealing with people who had who

0:26:39.845 --> 0:26:43.245
<v Speaker 1>were at that step who had to warehouses and then

0:26:43.285 --> 0:26:52.805
<v Speaker 1>moved to meet or others like it. To celebrate the

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<v Speaker 1>completion of the first Panama Red Trip, my parents embark

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<v Speaker 1>on a vacation to Hawaii and leave five year old

0:26:58.685 --> 0:27:03.365
<v Speaker 1>verticat Grandma's house. Giddy on financial success, they splurge on

0:27:03.405 --> 0:27:07.125
<v Speaker 1>a helicopter ride from Mill Valley to the San Francisco Airport.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about a forty minute drive from Mill Valley to

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<v Speaker 1>the airport without traffic. Who takes a helicopter for that

0:27:15.325 --> 0:27:18.845
<v Speaker 1>short a journey. Well, that's exactly what the helicopter meet

0:27:18.845 --> 0:27:22.005
<v Speaker 1>and greeters thought. Anyone taking a helicopter has to have

0:27:22.045 --> 0:27:25.085
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. And my twenty seven year old

0:27:25.165 --> 0:27:28.365
<v Speaker 1>dad doesn't look like an old moneyed Californian with his

0:27:28.565 --> 0:27:33.525
<v Speaker 1>giant jewfro an ARTSI handembridered cowboy shirt and leather fringe jacket. Oh,

0:27:33.605 --> 0:27:38.325
<v Speaker 1>he was clearly part of the bohemian hippie counterculture. Okay,

0:27:38.365 --> 0:27:40.965
<v Speaker 1>so my dad is psyched for Hawaii and he decides

0:27:41.005 --> 0:27:44.005
<v Speaker 1>to bring some party favors with him on this trip. Yeah,

0:27:44.045 --> 0:27:46.525
<v Speaker 1>I thought, okay, well I'll bring a little bit with me,

0:27:46.605 --> 0:27:48.405
<v Speaker 1>and I brought, oh, I don't know, a couple of

0:27:48.485 --> 0:27:53.845
<v Speaker 1>grams of pot and a couple of capsules of mescaline

0:27:54.725 --> 0:28:01.525
<v Speaker 1>and maybe a tiny amount of hash. And I actually

0:28:01.605 --> 0:28:03.285
<v Speaker 1>I wrapped it all up and I hid it in

0:28:03.405 --> 0:28:08.565
<v Speaker 1>a nut cracker doll. Who brings the nutcracker doll to Hawaii?

0:28:08.925 --> 0:28:11.245
<v Speaker 1>I mean absurd? Right, Well, there are a lot of

0:28:11.285 --> 0:28:14.965
<v Speaker 1>macadamia nuts in Hawaii. A holiday nutcracker is never on

0:28:15.005 --> 0:28:19.605
<v Speaker 1>anyone's tropical vacation packing list. So my parents get off

0:28:19.605 --> 0:28:23.605
<v Speaker 1>the helicopter, walk into the terminal and encounter some bad luck.

0:28:23.965 --> 0:28:29.405
<v Speaker 1>We land at the airport and walk into the terminal

0:28:30.005 --> 0:28:34.405
<v Speaker 1>and there's there's this place there where they they're absolutely

0:28:34.565 --> 0:28:38.285
<v Speaker 1>going through your luggage like you just got back from

0:28:39.485 --> 0:28:42.245
<v Speaker 1>from the Golden Triangle or something like that. I mean,

0:28:42.285 --> 0:28:45.285
<v Speaker 1>they're they're inspecting it, like you're going through customs from

0:28:45.285 --> 0:28:48.045
<v Speaker 1>who knows where. They're going through my luggage and they

0:28:48.085 --> 0:28:51.565
<v Speaker 1>find this thing and they open it and they and

0:28:51.925 --> 0:28:54.845
<v Speaker 1>they open it and what's this? I don't know, you

0:28:54.885 --> 0:28:58.085
<v Speaker 1>know what you're supposed to say? It's drugs? They say, okay,

0:28:58.125 --> 0:29:02.205
<v Speaker 1>young man, welcome with us. So Taffy is is what watching?

0:29:02.685 --> 0:29:08.125
<v Speaker 1>While I'm getting busted. I hold my dad off in

0:29:08.165 --> 0:29:11.085
<v Speaker 1>handcuffs as my mom watches from the other side of security.

0:29:11.805 --> 0:29:14.525
<v Speaker 1>My mom pops to action and calls her rockstar pot

0:29:14.565 --> 0:29:19.485
<v Speaker 1>lawyer and the bail bondsman. Okay, So, after successfully smuggling

0:29:19.565 --> 0:29:23.165
<v Speaker 1>almost a ton of pot across the country, my dad

0:29:23.165 --> 0:29:25.445
<v Speaker 1>gets busted on his home turf for a couple of

0:29:25.485 --> 0:29:28.005
<v Speaker 1>grams of pot and a few hits of mescaline, which

0:29:28.045 --> 0:29:30.805
<v Speaker 1>is a nature forward psychedelic drive from Poti. I just

0:29:30.925 --> 0:29:37.045
<v Speaker 1>finished selling seven hundred pounds and I get busted for

0:29:37.325 --> 0:29:40.485
<v Speaker 1>two grams. That is dodging a bullet. My friend I

0:29:40.725 --> 0:29:46.325
<v Speaker 1>ended up having to I pled guilty to some misdemeanor

0:29:46.445 --> 0:29:50.565
<v Speaker 1>pot But they started out by wanting a felony for

0:29:50.605 --> 0:29:54.205
<v Speaker 1>the psychedelics, for the one capsule of mescaline or something

0:29:54.285 --> 0:29:58.605
<v Speaker 1>like that, and eventually a deal was cut to where

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<v Speaker 1>I would get four weekends in the Redwood City jail.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad gets sentenced to four weekends in jail, which

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know was the thing, but yes, it is

0:30:11.965 --> 0:30:14.725
<v Speaker 1>jail on the weekends. It's like a month long weekend workshop,

0:30:14.765 --> 0:30:16.805
<v Speaker 1>but you go to jail instead of the ceramics studio.

0:30:16.885 --> 0:30:19.885
<v Speaker 1>I'm making shop or writing a retreats. When I served

0:30:19.885 --> 0:30:23.925
<v Speaker 1>the sentence, I would Taffy would drive me down and

0:30:23.965 --> 0:30:27.205
<v Speaker 1>I check into the jail. I would take I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember if I would get so stoned or some sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>pills or something. The place was like a zoo. They

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<v Speaker 1>put me in this tank with all these mother rapers

0:30:37.725 --> 0:30:42.285
<v Speaker 1>and father rapers, and you know, and here I am

0:30:42.445 --> 0:30:46.445
<v Speaker 1>there and I didn't even talk to these people. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there were bunks in the place, but the

0:30:48.685 --> 0:30:52.165
<v Speaker 1>place was so crawling with people. They left the lights

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<v Speaker 1>on all the time, and I didn't have a bunk.

0:30:55.485 --> 0:30:58.685
<v Speaker 1>I ended up sleeping on the dining table. And the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking guards they were really assholes. They would I was

0:31:02.965 --> 0:31:05.405
<v Speaker 1>supposed to get out at six o'clock on Sunday evening,

0:31:05.845 --> 0:31:08.845
<v Speaker 1>and they would fuck around and they just sort of

0:31:08.885 --> 0:31:12.165
<v Speaker 1>played games, and I got out whenever. It was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>an hour later, half an hour later, and Taffy would

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<v Speaker 1>be waiting down in the middle of Redwood City at

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<v Speaker 1>the jail. Whatever you go, gets Chinese food in the

0:31:22.205 --> 0:31:26.525
<v Speaker 1>city on the way home. Probably this is a very happy,

0:31:26.605 --> 0:31:29.205
<v Speaker 1>go lucky story the way my dad tells it. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the next twenty years, my dad's smuggling career grows,

0:31:32.365 --> 0:31:38.045
<v Speaker 1>along with increasingly serious prison sentences for pot. Pot sentencing

0:31:38.125 --> 0:31:41.765
<v Speaker 1>laws and my dad are like contrary fraternal twins, both

0:31:42.005 --> 0:31:45.645
<v Speaker 1>growing in the pot industry in totally opposite ways. The

0:31:45.685 --> 0:31:48.005
<v Speaker 1>more successful my dad grows as a pot smuggler, the

0:31:48.085 --> 0:31:54.205
<v Speaker 1>more serious the pot laws grow. You're listening to Disorganized Crime.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Rainbow Valentine. We'll be right back. Despite these arrests

0:32:11.365 --> 0:32:14.645
<v Speaker 1>and the ever looming war on drugs, my dad made

0:32:14.645 --> 0:32:19.485
<v Speaker 1>the choice to remain a smuggler. It came with enormous risks,

0:32:20.205 --> 0:32:25.205
<v Speaker 1>but it was lucrative, flexible, and fun. Now, the main

0:32:25.285 --> 0:32:28.005
<v Speaker 1>reason my dad gives for working as a pot smuggler

0:32:28.245 --> 0:32:31.645
<v Speaker 1>is freedom, and the prevailing philosophy in our household of

0:32:31.685 --> 0:32:35.965
<v Speaker 1>freelancers is that money is freedom. My dad and his

0:32:36.005 --> 0:32:39.245
<v Speaker 1>smuggling associates were driven by an even bigger force in

0:32:39.285 --> 0:32:42.805
<v Speaker 1>their line of work. Money is enticing. But the children

0:32:42.885 --> 0:32:46.805
<v Speaker 1>of the nineteen sixties counterculture felt betrayed by the US government,

0:32:47.165 --> 0:32:50.285
<v Speaker 1>a feeling kindled by the ongoing Vietnam War and fed

0:32:50.325 --> 0:32:54.565
<v Speaker 1>by what they saw as the government's hypocrisy and antagonism.

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<v Speaker 1>So my mom told me this hilarious story getting an

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<v Speaker 1>insider's perspective into the FBI in the sixties. One time

0:33:02.285 --> 0:33:06.125
<v Speaker 1>I picked up an FBI agent in Chinatown in a bar.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could believe this, this is a story I

0:33:09.685 --> 0:33:12.405
<v Speaker 1>am here. Yeah, it's like one of the times I

0:33:12.445 --> 0:33:14.325
<v Speaker 1>was living alone, and so I picked him up and

0:33:14.405 --> 0:33:17.205
<v Speaker 1>took him home. Right, he had a trench coat. What

0:33:17.405 --> 0:33:19.845
<v Speaker 1>was under the trench coat though, that was the real question.

0:33:19.885 --> 0:33:23.645
<v Speaker 1>Close he had close up. But this was like nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six and during that time, and he told, you know,

0:33:27.765 --> 0:33:32.245
<v Speaker 1>we had a trist and then he told me that

0:33:32.325 --> 0:33:36.685
<v Speaker 1>he worked for this this government, and that you know,

0:33:36.765 --> 0:33:39.925
<v Speaker 1>there were rooms and rooms of people listening with like

0:33:40.205 --> 0:33:43.485
<v Speaker 1>microphones to everything going on, and there was a surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>going on. So that sinched it for me, because this

0:33:46.605 --> 0:33:50.685
<v Speaker 1>guy was a real guy. It wasn't like the village

0:33:50.765 --> 0:33:53.845
<v Speaker 1>voice telling you that shit was happening. It was this

0:33:54.005 --> 0:33:57.925
<v Speaker 1>real guy telling me that like shit was happening. That

0:33:58.045 --> 0:33:59.725
<v Speaker 1>was the only time I picked up a guy in

0:33:59.765 --> 0:34:02.365
<v Speaker 1>a bar, though. I want to tell you, my parents

0:34:02.365 --> 0:34:05.645
<v Speaker 1>also saw many of their peers sent of Vietnam or

0:34:05.645 --> 0:34:10.725
<v Speaker 1>they both felt was pointless, classist and maliciously dishonest. Dennis

0:34:10.805 --> 0:34:14.565
<v Speaker 1>McNally or in nineteen sixties counterculture historian from last episode,

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<v Speaker 1>So this really potent thing about anger and the bitterness

0:34:18.085 --> 0:34:21.405
<v Speaker 1>of the nineteen sixties youth and the counterculture. What happened

0:34:21.405 --> 0:34:25.205
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixties was that there are four or

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<v Speaker 1>five things that, whether you're conscious of it or not,

0:34:28.725 --> 0:34:32.445
<v Speaker 1>as an American, you're taught to believe in. One of them,

0:34:32.805 --> 0:34:39.245
<v Speaker 1>for instance, is that America is uniquely great and wonderful

0:34:39.645 --> 0:34:43.285
<v Speaker 1>and can do no wrong and if it's American, it's good.

0:34:43.965 --> 0:34:47.645
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that more comes in on all this because

0:34:48.285 --> 0:34:52.245
<v Speaker 1>remember in the nineteen sixties, when I was getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go to college and going to college and facing

0:34:54.405 --> 0:34:58.005
<v Speaker 1>the draft. I was the son of a military veteran,

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<v Speaker 1>as most people of my age, because most Americans who

0:35:03.765 --> 0:35:08.605
<v Speaker 1>were service age in the nineteen forties served in World

0:35:08.685 --> 0:35:14.445
<v Speaker 1>War Two and defeated a really horrible foe, and we're

0:35:14.525 --> 0:35:16.765
<v Speaker 1>very proud of that as well they should do. And

0:35:16.845 --> 0:35:20.405
<v Speaker 1>the fact is that the assumption was that if America

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<v Speaker 1>was going to go to war, that it was necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what got Lyndon Johnson in deep, deep trouble

0:35:27.765 --> 0:35:32.805
<v Speaker 1>my fellow Americans. Not long ago, I received a letter

0:35:32.885 --> 0:35:39.085
<v Speaker 1>from a woman in the Midwest. She wrote, very muster, President,

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<v Speaker 1>in my humble way, I am writing to you about

0:35:44.045 --> 0:35:47.685
<v Speaker 1>the crisis in Vietnam. I have a son who is

0:35:47.725 --> 0:35:51.485
<v Speaker 1>now in Vietnam. My husband served in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>Our country was at war. But now this time it's

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<v Speaker 1>just something that I don't understand. This is President Lyndon B.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson's news conference from nineteen sixty five, where he's defending

0:36:05.525 --> 0:36:11.205
<v Speaker 1>the Vietnam War. Why most young Americans born into a

0:36:11.365 --> 0:36:16.965
<v Speaker 1>land exultant with hope and with golden promise toil and

0:36:17.165 --> 0:36:22.325
<v Speaker 1>suffer and sometimes die in such a remote and distant place.

0:36:24.045 --> 0:36:28.365
<v Speaker 1>The answer, like the war itself, is not an easy one.

0:36:29.685 --> 0:36:33.605
<v Speaker 1>We have learned at a terrible and a brutal cost

0:36:34.165 --> 0:36:41.405
<v Speaker 1>that retreat does not bring safety, and weakness does not

0:36:42.165 --> 0:36:47.525
<v Speaker 1>bring peace. Lennon Johnson decided that he couldn't lose a war,

0:36:48.805 --> 0:36:51.765
<v Speaker 1>and that the idea that America could lose. So he

0:36:51.845 --> 0:36:54.525
<v Speaker 1>kept putting more and more resources in the Vietnam, and

0:36:54.605 --> 0:36:59.205
<v Speaker 1>it became more and more obvious that he was rung

0:36:59.685 --> 0:37:02.325
<v Speaker 1>and that a we weren't going to win the war,

0:37:03.125 --> 0:37:05.925
<v Speaker 1>we had a business being in the war, and so

0:37:06.045 --> 0:37:09.685
<v Speaker 1>forth and so on. So if you're a teenager in

0:37:09.685 --> 0:37:13.845
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties and you suddenly discover that, gee, the

0:37:13.925 --> 0:37:18.405
<v Speaker 1>government's been lying to us, and then you are forced

0:37:19.525 --> 0:37:23.085
<v Speaker 1>you're you're forced to start challenging all kinds of assumptions.

0:37:24.045 --> 0:37:27.085
<v Speaker 1>One of them is that all drugs are bad, right,

0:37:27.165 --> 0:37:30.725
<v Speaker 1>That was one of the messages from America. And you know,

0:37:30.765 --> 0:37:34.165
<v Speaker 1>people tried pot and I went jeeus makes me eat

0:37:34.165 --> 0:37:35.845
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ice cream. But other than that, you

0:37:35.885 --> 0:37:40.125
<v Speaker 1>know where I don't quite see the damage share And

0:37:40.285 --> 0:37:46.805
<v Speaker 1>that that that left us with um an enormous gap

0:37:47.485 --> 0:37:51.245
<v Speaker 1>in belief in challenging the you know, the the traditional

0:37:51.285 --> 0:37:56.565
<v Speaker 1>American beliefs. My parents grew up in Harry An Slinger's America.

0:37:56.765 --> 0:38:00.005
<v Speaker 1>Remember he was the guy who spread the antimerajuana propaganda

0:38:00.045 --> 0:38:04.845
<v Speaker 1>after prohibition, but their personal drug experiences were the opposite

0:38:04.925 --> 0:38:08.685
<v Speaker 1>of what the government asserted was the truth about marijuana.

0:38:08.805 --> 0:38:11.885
<v Speaker 1>I could say, oh, drugs changed my life. They did,

0:38:12.525 --> 0:38:18.005
<v Speaker 1>but absolutely positively. It opened my eyes to seeing that

0:38:18.045 --> 0:38:21.525
<v Speaker 1>there was more to the real world, to the real world,

0:38:21.765 --> 0:38:25.645
<v Speaker 1>not to some pollucinatory other world. More to the real

0:38:25.685 --> 0:38:30.485
<v Speaker 1>world than just the experience of being where you are

0:38:30.805 --> 0:38:34.765
<v Speaker 1>right at that moment. It brought out as end quality

0:38:35.605 --> 0:38:40.005
<v Speaker 1>of going inside and not outside and letting your boundaries disappear.

0:38:40.725 --> 0:38:44.805
<v Speaker 1>I think it opened up life into art. Thought it

0:38:44.885 --> 0:38:50.005
<v Speaker 1>was soothing in a sea of chaos because it was

0:38:50.605 --> 0:38:57.685
<v Speaker 1>very just. Life is chaos, life is very fearful. During

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen ninety four interview, President Nixon's domestic policy chief

0:39:02.205 --> 0:39:07.445
<v Speaker 1>John Erlickman suggested the War on drugs campaign had ulterior motives.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind, Erlickman did have a complicated relationship with Nixon.

0:39:12.365 --> 0:39:15.965
<v Speaker 1>Nixon was immediately pardoned for Watergate, and Erlickman ended up

0:39:15.965 --> 0:39:19.205
<v Speaker 1>in prison for a year and a half. However, in

0:39:19.245 --> 0:39:23.405
<v Speaker 1>the interview published in Harper's magazine, Erlickman explained that the

0:39:23.525 --> 0:39:28.885
<v Speaker 1>Nixon campaign had two enemies. Erlichman is quoted as saying,

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<v Speaker 1>the anti war left and black people. We knew we

0:39:33.325 --> 0:39:35.725
<v Speaker 1>couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war

0:39:35.925 --> 0:39:39.005
<v Speaker 1>or black. But by getting the public to associate the

0:39:39.045 --> 0:39:43.005
<v Speaker 1>hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing

0:39:43.045 --> 0:39:47.485
<v Speaker 1>both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest

0:39:47.525 --> 0:39:50.685
<v Speaker 1>their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and

0:39:50.885 --> 0:39:54.885
<v Speaker 1>vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did

0:39:54.885 --> 0:39:57.725
<v Speaker 1>we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course

0:39:57.765 --> 0:40:03.765
<v Speaker 1>we did. Now. My dad and most of his smuggling

0:40:03.805 --> 0:40:08.765
<v Speaker 1>colleagues felt and still feel their work was honorable. They

0:40:08.845 --> 0:40:13.085
<v Speaker 1>felt deceived by the government. To them, the government was

0:40:13.125 --> 0:40:16.645
<v Speaker 1>the bad guy. So if they're subverting the bad guy,

0:40:17.285 --> 0:40:22.885
<v Speaker 1>what harm are they actually doing. I think the government's

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<v Speaker 1>success and rightful righteousness in World War Two led to hubris,

0:40:27.405 --> 0:40:30.605
<v Speaker 1>and hubris leads to a desire for more power, and

0:40:30.725 --> 0:40:34.845
<v Speaker 1>power corrupts, so corruption leads to a pushback at some point,

0:40:35.125 --> 0:40:40.045
<v Speaker 1>because energy isn't stagnant. It ebbs and flows, pulses, moves

0:40:40.085 --> 0:40:43.445
<v Speaker 1>like a fractal laser hippie light show. There is cause

0:40:43.485 --> 0:40:45.805
<v Speaker 1>and effect in a never ending game of ping pong.

0:40:46.965 --> 0:40:49.285
<v Speaker 1>So let's find out how the energy moved in my

0:40:49.365 --> 0:40:55.445
<v Speaker 1>dad's industry. So now it's the early seventies. My dad

0:40:55.445 --> 0:40:59.005
<v Speaker 1>has a life partner, a little kid, his partner's pregnant,

0:40:59.125 --> 0:41:01.925
<v Speaker 1>and he's in his late twenties. He's been doing small

0:41:01.965 --> 0:41:04.965
<v Speaker 1>to medium deals with anywhere from fifty to a couple

0:41:05.005 --> 0:41:08.285
<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds a pot, storing merchandise in the house, and

0:41:08.365 --> 0:41:13.125
<v Speaker 1>working with whoever comes along, people who might be sloppy, careless, stoned,

0:41:13.485 --> 0:41:16.525
<v Speaker 1>or all three. He's been a kid and treating the

0:41:16.565 --> 0:41:21.485
<v Speaker 1>business like a breezy lemonade stand childishly. But in nineteen

0:41:21.525 --> 0:41:24.085
<v Speaker 1>seventy four, on the dark and stormy night, when my

0:41:24.165 --> 0:41:27.205
<v Speaker 1>parents lost all their money but gained a child me,

0:41:28.325 --> 0:41:31.925
<v Speaker 1>my dad knew he had to change careers or change

0:41:31.925 --> 0:41:36.685
<v Speaker 1>his business model. I lost my complete completely lost my

0:41:36.765 --> 0:41:40.965
<v Speaker 1>self esteem. Taffy and I split up. I thought I

0:41:41.005 --> 0:41:44.485
<v Speaker 1>was so worthless and I failed and I failed my family,

0:41:44.805 --> 0:41:48.365
<v Speaker 1>you know. Coming up in episode four, my dad loses

0:41:48.405 --> 0:41:52.805
<v Speaker 1>everything and is forced to rebuild. I'm Rainbow Valentine and

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to Disorganized Crime. Disorganized Crime Smuggler's Daughter is

0:41:58.645 --> 0:42:02.725
<v Speaker 1>written and recorded by Me Rainbow Valentine. Our producers are

0:42:02.765 --> 0:42:07.125
<v Speaker 1>Gabby Watts and Taylor Church. Exactly To producers are Brandon Barr,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Lavin, Elsie Crowley and Me at School of Humans,

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<v Speaker 1>and Connell Burn and Charles Bryant at iHeartRadio. Our music

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<v Speaker 1>is by Gabby Lala and Claire Campbell, with original theme

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<v Speaker 1>by Mark Karen and Me. Special thanks to Peter Rowan

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<v Speaker 1>for the use of his song Panama Red. You can

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<v Speaker 1>follow us online at Disorganized Crime podcast dot com. Right

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<v Speaker 1>novel the story Do It As with Me Tam by

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Princess of the Red Dreams, Keep It Real, Handshake,

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<v Speaker 1>Seals the Deal, Wrap the Stack, the seal of the Meal,

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<v Speaker 1>and Going Up. These are gold in a Doobie, Young,

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<v Speaker 1>Rich and Groovey Making it Up. We rold along in

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<v Speaker 1>Love Fower Country Roll, Rolling Love fer Country Roll, Rolling

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