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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast on

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Speaker 2: the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, June fourth. We got the

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Speaker 2: whole crew on the horn. I'm Skeets, along with Task

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Speaker 2: tray Ley and the man making the Magic Happen JD.

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Speaker 2: And we got some big news to break down here

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Speaker 2: boys in fact. Oh yeah, hold on, yeah, we got

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Speaker 2: facts coming through. Oh here it is trade. You want

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Speaker 2: to read this for us? The NBA is back. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is baby, or close enough. It's official. The NBA's

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Speaker 2: Board of Governors have approved a twenty two team format

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Speaker 2: to resume the twenty nineteen twenty season in Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 2: According to Shams, Portland, the loan team that voted against

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Speaker 2: the plan, and we can, oh, we can get into

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Speaker 2: why we think they voted that way maybe a little

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Speaker 2: bit later, but first the gist of the plan here.

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Speaker 2: Training camp is going to get underway June thirtieth, and

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Speaker 2: then the any two teams that will head to Orlando,

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Speaker 2: we'll go around July seventh, though I'm seeing some reports

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Speaker 2: July ninth or eleventh around that time. The season itself

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Speaker 2: will start July thirty first, where thirteen Western Conference teams

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Speaker 2: and nine Eastern Conference teams will first play eight regular

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Speaker 2: season games, and then we'll possibly get a play in tournament.

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Speaker 2: And we decided earlier today with Dave Shilling on our

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Speaker 2: Film Session podcast that we're calling that the Orlando Florida

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Speaker 2: Mega Bowl. We're locking that in all caps locks. And

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Speaker 2: then we'll get the playoffs. Okay, So you got the

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Speaker 2: eight regular season games, a possible play in tournament, and

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Speaker 2: then the playoffs as normal or as normal as possible

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Speaker 2: with the playoffs seven game series. As for that proposed

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Speaker 2: little play in tournament, it's pretty straightforward, although when you

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Speaker 2: read it it looks sort of confusing. Lelly have bad news.

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Speaker 2: First off, the conferences are still intact, mate, hmm, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: so we're we're not abolishing the conferences and just taking

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Speaker 2: the top sixteen all that whatever like that. It is

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Speaker 2: still in play. Ninth seed in either conference is more

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Speaker 2: or fewer games behind, that's when we get the Mega Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That's when we get the play in, which is a

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Speaker 2: single elimination for the ninth seed and a double elimination

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Speaker 2: for the eight seed. Again translation, with that, the ninth

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Speaker 2: is back in our lives, Baby, you gotta love it.

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Speaker 2: So lots more details to discuss here, and a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of unknowns still, especially when it comes to player

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Speaker 3: Far as the basketball part. I think it appeases as

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Speaker 3: and that play in tournament it's a little weird to me.

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Speaker 2: There's no reason to call it a tournament. I heard

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Speaker 1: And that was the main takeaway for me from this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be fun if it all goes

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Speaker 4: But certainly it's brought about some good news in the

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Speaker 2: Go that far just yet.

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Speaker 4: I think there's still lots of things need to be

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Speaker 2: Silver and a statement did say, you know, we also

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So that's not happening. It's just like it's it's weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. But what will be interesting with the

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Speaker 2: I think maybe the game.

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Speaker 4: Before perhaps, But it's just so it's just so unknown,

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Speaker 1: You might get to chew your home court as well.

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Speaker 3: it's impossible to have the courts switched out. But I

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Speaker 3: could see I could see a Lakers the Lebron playing

434
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Speaker 3: on the Lakers court round one of the postseason. You know,

435
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Speaker 3: they bring those sixteen courts down somehow and get them

436
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Speaker 3: swapped in, and I think we're getting a playing game

437
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Speaker 3: in the West. I think the Grizzlies will be playing,

438
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Speaker 3: you know, it could be the Blazers or the Pelicans

439
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: or somebody, because yeah, those teams also just have to

440
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Speaker 3: because they're all sort of all a mediocre. You can

441
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Speaker 3: see them all going four and four, and that would mean,

442
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Speaker 3: you know, if they if the Blazers or the Pels

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Speaker 3: or the Kings play the Grizzlies equal, if they have

444
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Speaker 3: the same records, then one of those teams would be

445
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Speaker 3: playing them. And then people are gonna love Damian Lillard

446
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Speaker 3: going up against John Morant potentially for a for a

447
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Speaker 3: playoff spot.

448
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Speaker 2: And what do you and what do you think of

449
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Speaker 2: the advantage to the eighth seed tasks where whereas the

450
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Speaker 2: knight seed team would have to win twice. It's not

451
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Speaker 2: a it's not just one game, do or die and

452
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Speaker 2: you're in. It's not really like the MLB and wild

453
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Speaker 2: card situations and stuff like that with their playing games.

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Speaker 2: This is it's weighted to the eight seed. Do you

455
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Speaker 2: like that because it is a little more fair or

456
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Speaker 2: do you wish it was more just for all the marbles.

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Speaker 3: I like the amount of marbles. I think it's I

458
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Speaker 3: think you gotta I think you have to wait. It

459
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Speaker 3: to the eighth seeded team and it could have been

460
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Speaker 3: a yeah, a lot worse for the Memphis Grizzlies. I

461
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Speaker 3: think they're fairly happy. They also had a tough schedule

462
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Speaker 3: the rest of the way, and so they're also getting

463
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Speaker 3: their guys back and Jeron Jackson Junior and Brandon Clark.

464
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Speaker 3: So I think it makes sense to me. This is

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Speaker 3: new territory for me. This is funn's playing idea here.

466
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Speaker 3: But I would do that instead of instead of their

467
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Speaker 3: baseball style.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely makes sense from a fairness standpoint, But

469
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Speaker 1: you know, from a marble standpoint, how fun would it

470
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Speaker 1: be to actually have that game be winner go home?

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Speaker 1: Literally go home?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I think again, for when you're talking about

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Speaker 4: the eighth spot, why not make it a little bit

474
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Speaker 4: more like that and just have it, you know, because

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Speaker 4: ultimately they're going up against likely the Bucks or the Lakers,

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Speaker 4: So make it a little bit more, I think, more

477
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Speaker 4: more on the line for that one particular game. I

478
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Speaker 4: think that might make it fun. I think that's the

479
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Speaker 4: important thing here for the NBA is to try to

480
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Speaker 4: make sure that this is a fun, exciting however long

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Speaker 4: it goes for. And I think there are ways again

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Speaker 4: by experimenting with a few things without changing the format completely.

483
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Speaker 4: I think this is an opportunity for the NBA to

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Speaker 4: create a little bit more excitement around it. So I

485
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Speaker 4: would do it in this situation. I just you know,

486
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Speaker 4: I was someone who wanted them to go for the

487
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Speaker 4: one to sixteen seeding, and they're not going to do that.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's okay to still try a few

489
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Speaker 4: other little things and just sort of see what the

490
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Speaker 4: response is to them, because ultimately it's you know, it's

491
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Speaker 4: worth doing it now. It's worth trying it now while

492
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Speaker 4: you have got a bit of a free hit.

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Speaker 2: It's worth maybe trying it. Is what we're at though.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean every but everything is a maybe,

495
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Speaker 4: I guess at this stage.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, no, here's the thing. It's almost it's

497
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Speaker 2: almost unfortunate that the conferences weren't balanced perfectly. And what

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Speaker 2: I mean by that is that, okay, yeah, the playoff teams, okay,

499
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Speaker 2: so we got to eat and the eat and that

500
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Speaker 2: actually ended up being balanced perfectly. It was like, okay, well,

501
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Speaker 2: it happens to be that the sixteen best teams records wise,

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Speaker 2: at least or eight from the west and from the east.

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Speaker 2: What's unfortunate is that then the teams after them are

504
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Speaker 2: so heavily favored to the west. Five of these six

505
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Speaker 2: teams coming the Wizards being the only one. It would

506
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Speaker 2: have been great. It would have been so perfect, I

507
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Speaker 2: really think, and they would have tackled this maybe differently

508
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Speaker 2: if it was three and three, right, Like, let's just

509
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Speaker 2: say the Hornets and Bulls do have better records than

510
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Speaker 2: I guess. It would be like the Kings and the

511
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Speaker 2: Suns and stuff like that, and it would be so

512
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Speaker 2: cool because then I think you could do like the

513
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Speaker 2: Then it could be really a mini tournament for the

514
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Speaker 2: eight seed again, could be weighted, might have to win,

515
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Speaker 2: you know, more times than the one time. It's not

516
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Speaker 2: just single elimination. But we saw that proposal, remember that

517
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Speaker 2: was getting kicked around when there was talk of like

518
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Speaker 2: mid season tournaments and stuff like that. Like there was

519
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Speaker 2: a lot of talk about this little sort of like

520
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Speaker 2: four team mini tournament, and I think that would have

521
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Speaker 2: been really cool. Unfortunate. I get why they're not doing

522
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Speaker 2: it again because it's just not It's like, it's just

523
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Speaker 2: not it's not fair. It really isn't fair to like

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Speaker 2: a lot of these Western Conference teams that would just

525
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Speaker 2: have better records than some of these crappier Eastern Conference teams.

526
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just this is just like maybe potentially

527
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Speaker 2: we get it, and even then it's not like one

528
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Speaker 2: game to get in, so I guess the second game

529
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Speaker 2: would be, in theory, very exciting if the night seed

530
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Speaker 2: beats the eight seed and then it's like, okay, next

531
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Speaker 2: next game wins is in to just get probably beat

532
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Speaker 2: in four or five games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was telling Laura about what the plan

534
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Speaker 1: was going to be for this, and her first reaction

535
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Speaker 1: when I told her about the potential win too versus

536
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Speaker 1: losing one showdown was that sounds like Gus Macker. And

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what it sounds like. Is you're in the

538
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Speaker 1: battle back bracket of a Gus Macker tournament. You just

539
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Speaker 1: got to keep winning. It's going to be a long Saturday,

540
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Speaker 1: but if you pull it off, you're feeling good.

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Speaker 2: That's so true. The only time me and my buddies

542
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Speaker 2: won the Toronto Tournament is we actually got to the

543
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Speaker 2: final and we had played so well that year that

544
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Speaker 2: we could have lost the first game in the final

545
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Speaker 2: and then they would have had to beat us again,

546
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Speaker 2: and it didn't happen, so we won. So it was

547
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Speaker 2: anti climactic, is what I'm saying. Lei. It was boring

548
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Speaker 2: we just won the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I mean that, you know, You just

550
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 4: never know how a game is going to turn out.

551
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 4: I mean that if that playing game came down to

552
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: it like a March Madness buzzer beater shot, I mean,

553
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: people go, this is the greatest thing ever and they

554
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: have to do this going forward. If it's boring, it's like, okay,

555
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: no harm done. We tried it at a time where

556
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: we had the chance to do it and it didn't

557
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 4: work out. But of course, trying to predict any result

558
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: of any game is virtually impossible. Any We've seen some

559
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: crazy finishes to games that are the most two boring

560
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: teams going out. If you have a great game, you

561
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: have a great game. It's that simple. And you know,

562
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Speaker 4: you think about you think about the finals over the years,

563
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Speaker 4: Like let's go back a couple of years when it

564
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Speaker 4: was the Warriors in the Cavs four games sweep. Boring

565
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Speaker 4: is anything you know the year before that five game sweep.

566
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Speaker 4: But we had some great other games throughout the playoffs.

567
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: It's it's just the way it goes sometimes. So I

568
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: think there is you know, this is the time to

569
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Speaker 4: experiment a little bit, just to sort of give the

570
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: fans something that people have talked about for a long

571
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Speaker 4: time that they would love to see.

572
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Speaker 3: Ye, as far as experimentation goes. As far as that goes,

573
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Speaker 3: in terms of getting the audio feed through the games

574
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Speaker 3: that we've talked about, there's no fans, let's get it.

575
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: I heard Chris Vernon bring up a pretty good point

576
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: that of course it would have to be on delay,

577
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: so the NBA could blurt out anything they don't want

578
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: to hear, sense or anything they don't want fans to hear.

579
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: But the problem in that is live betting.

580
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: There would be a whole.

581
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Speaker 3: Issue with having a delay and still being able to

582
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Speaker 3: wager on the magic coming back or whatever. So that

583
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Speaker 3: ain't gonna happen either.

584
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess you can put a warning

585
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: out before the game though, too. Can't you say you

586
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: might hear No, I mean all honestly, it's like, listen,

587
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: you might hear some things here, so just to let

588
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: you know, because again, it's an emotional game and that's

589
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: how players respond. Because also, you know, talk about live betting.

590
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, we will see the results of things

591
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: on Twitter and stuff anyway from the people who are there,

592
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: so you know that's going to affect it. You know,

593
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: if people are watching at home, and they're like following

594
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Speaker 4: Fred Katz on Twitter, Fred's and to have all the.

595
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Speaker 2: Scoops, as say, cats going down there, I've got a scoop.

596
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: I've got a scoop. I think you might be there.

597
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: Oh that is a great point, though, Yeah, you're really

598
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: going to avoid Twitter if there's some media people there

599
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: and some of these and some of them both men

600
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Speaker 2: and women. Do you're eight sort of almost play by

601
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: play action. That's a real spoiler situation. Yeah.

602
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, But again, I'm I'm excited to see those things

603
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: and see how the viewing experience is different, whether it's

604
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: better or worse. I'm excited to see and over a

605
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: good window too, of a two and a half months

606
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 4: or whatever it is. And I know I think they're

607
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: saying that families will be allowed in the playoffs and

608
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Speaker 4: not before then.

609
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: And I wonder if there will.

610
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Speaker 4: Be any allowance of you know, some sort of fans

611
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Speaker 4: maybe it like to some degree in the stands, because

612
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Speaker 4: I think that will just be a good way for

613
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Speaker 4: us to watch the game and enjoy the game from

614
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: a different perspective that we've never experienced before and see

615
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 4: if it's better, worse or not that much of a

616
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 4: difference because we just don't know at this point. I know,

617
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: for example, in Australia, they played one round of Australians

618
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: football without crowds and people didn't like it. But that's

619
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Speaker 4: only one game, you know, one round. So maybe maybe

620
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: after a couple of days and a couple of weeks

621
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Speaker 4: we get used to it and it doesn't really affect

622
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Speaker 4: the viewing experience all that much.

623
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Speaker 3: Yeah, me fasters, a few more vbs in that second

624
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: round gets way better.

625
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not I'll tell you right now, it's not.

626
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Speaker 2: I mean it's going to I think I think the

627
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: first couple of games, D's whatever is going to be Wow,

628
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: this is unique, and this is really cool. Basketball's back

629
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Speaker 2: and again hopefully everyone's healthy and everyone's safe and there

630
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: is no you know, spreading of the virus and stuff

631
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Speaker 2: like that. I think that's gonna wear off really quickly, Lely.

632
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong, but I think you're gonna be

633
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: like damn. I mean, just try and wrap your head

634
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: around like a game winner in an empty arena.

635
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, it's just I know, but

636
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: I think if you get to that point of the game,

637
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: if it's a close game, and it's a game winner.

638
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: You might be just invested into the game at that

639
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: point and it doesn't make a huge difference. I mean

640
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: until we see it, Until we watch it, we just

641
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: don't know how it's going to be for us at

642
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: home watching it on TV or our computers. I mean,

643
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: being in the arena could be significantly different for the players,

644
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: but for us, I mean maybe not.

645
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: Who knows.

646
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: I mean, and again that that's what I'm looking forward to.

647
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: It's just like, no, it's not just going to be

648
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 4: like one game over one weekend or anything. It's got

649
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Speaker 4: We've got two months, so we're going to get used

650
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Speaker 4: to it. It's a good sample size to at least

651
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Speaker 4: experience it.

652
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Speaker 2: What facility are you most excited to see them player?

653
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Speaker 2: The arena? H P Fieldhouse or the Visa Athletics Center.

654
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Speaker 4: Oh well, how can you split those three?

655
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: I mean three great arenas? Which one?

656
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: Really we need to find out which one's the Cox

657
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: Pavilion and which one is the Thomas and Max Center.

658
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: Really that's all it comes down to, because you always

659
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Speaker 4: want to watch in the thomasin Max Center. I think

660
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: over the Cox Pavilion myself, So I don't know. I

661
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Speaker 4: mean the Visa Center. Wow, what a what a spot that.

662
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Speaker 2: We will see.

663
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I still don't know which is which, And I've

664
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: been in Summer League several times and I'll never learned.

665
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Speaker 3: I don't care to learn which is which. But I

666
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Speaker 3: think there's a reason why they got rid of the

667
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Speaker 3: Orlando Summer League. I mean, partly because Vegas just took over,

668
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Speaker 3: but partly as the reason is it ain't fun watching

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Speaker 3: with Ell fans, and I think you know this isn't

670
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Speaker 3: It's just not going to be I think.

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Speaker 4: That's different though, But I think it's different when you're

672
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Speaker 4: talking summer League versus actual games.

673
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Speaker 2: That matters, nothing really on the line.

674
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: Yes, and you barely know most of those players, and

675
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: if you do know them, they're either rookies or their

676
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: journeymen trying to get their way back in the league.

677
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're seeing Jannis and Lebrono at it,

678
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: I think that's significantly different to watching, you know, a

679
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Speaker 4: sumer League game, especially as well, like when you consider

680
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Speaker 4: for us what Summer League the experience was. It was

681
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Speaker 4: the end of the season when it was just like

682
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Speaker 4: game after game of meaningless basketball, whereas now these games

683
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Speaker 4: are going to be star players going at it battling

684
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Speaker 4: for something and competing for something. So obviously we won't

685
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Speaker 4: well I don't expect any of us will be there

686
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Speaker 4: in person, but I think that is going to change

687
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Speaker 4: the fact that how we watch it and the fans

688
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 4: not being there is not going to be the same

689
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Speaker 4: as it is in Orlando summer leagues in the past.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's maybe we just have no fans next year.

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Speaker 3: Then it's called fanless. It'll be that exciting just for

692
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Speaker 3: we might have that for all we know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that could be on, that could be in play

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Speaker 2: Danny LaRue on the Dunk Dawn podcast. What impact could

741
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: these eight regular season games seating games have on awards

742
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: and all NBA teams and stuff like that, Like, will

743
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Speaker 2: it have any thought? I thought such a I hadn't

744
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Speaker 2: even thought about it, So it was interested to get

745
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: your guys take because like on one hand. On one hand,

746
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: people might be like this doesn't count at all all right,

747
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: Like this does these eight games don't matter. Sorry, there's

748
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: no race for any of these awards. They're already wrapped up.

749
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Speaker 2: And then, on the other hand, could there be like

750
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Speaker 2: this super super recency bias if Damian Lillard comes back

751
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: and scores you know, like I'm just using him as

752
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: an example, but you know what I mean, like forty

753
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Speaker 2: five a game and gets the Blazers in the eight

754
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: seed and they are into the playoffs. Like, I don't know,

755
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Speaker 2: could that impact him in an All NBA ranking or

756
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Trade You have you thought about that

757
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: or have a take on that. I hadn't thought about it.

758
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: But my first my first inclination is to say, treat

759
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: it like the lottery odds. Everything was locked in on

760
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: March eleventh. You can't take anything into account with regards

761
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: to the votes. But then my second inclination, maybe this

762
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: is the year when regular season and postseason all factors

763
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: into the awards because these are basically two different seasons

764
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: that they're playing in at this point. With the way

765
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Speaker 1: you know the schedule is going to be set up

766
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Speaker 1: and how they're going to be playing a bunch of

767
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: games during the day, things that are abnormal for a

768
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: standard NBA season, So take the whole thing into account.

769
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: You know, the way players play after the shutdown is

770
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: going to be a lot different than the way they

771
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Speaker 1: did prior to the shutdown. So I think they both

772
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Speaker 1: factor in.

773
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Speaker 2: So that's the question tasks. If the Bucks and Giannis

774
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: goh to eight in these eight games, and the Lakers

775
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 2: letting Lebron led by Lebron going thirty fifteen and fifteen

776
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: go eight, no, can Lebron win MVP?

777
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: Well, I think who knows, no way, right, there's no way. Well,

778
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: Lebron's getting votes no matter what.

779
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I mean win the thing or something

780
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: like that. I just mean, can any can any of

781
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: the awards and all NBA teams be influenced by these

782
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: final eight regular season games? Not the playoffs, like Trey saying,

783
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: because that's something different, but yeah, just the Finally, how are.

784
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: You gonna be able to separate them?

785
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: Though?

786
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know they are seeding games versus

787
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: quote unquote playoff games, but it's all gonna look the same.

788
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're right, this is I don't think they're

789
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: going to do this, and I actually think voters will

790
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: be like sort of almost in a weird way, ignoring

791
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Speaker 2: all of this restarting. You know, It's like it is

792
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Speaker 2: sort of like, well, who did you have at March eleventh?

793
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Speaker 2: Was that your MVP? And who is your six man?

794
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: And who is that?

795
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: All?

796
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Speaker 1: Right?

797
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: Well, then then lock them in. That's it, okay, because

798
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: they are locking it in. Correct me if I'm wrong

799
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: with the lottery teams right, like, yeah, people are asking, well,

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Speaker 2: what happens if the Grizzlies go oh in eight and

801
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: are you know they slide past other teams? Like are

802
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: they in the lottery? You know, like where do they fall?

803
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: But the answer is no, right, it's it's those fourteen

804
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: teams as of March eleventh? Are the are your lottery teams?

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00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

806
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Definitely.

807
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: I thought on the Wizard side they don't play good

808
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: teams all that well, they're five and a half back.

809
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: They would have to get within four back to make it,

810
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 3: so I thought you could drop a couple spots if

811
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Speaker 3: they go oh and eight, you could drop a couple spots.

812
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: The Big Panda is that Bradley Beal's nickname?

813
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

814
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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, and he's he's known to balloon a little

815
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Speaker 3: bit when his wife was pregnant against some sympathy. Wait,

816
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: he probably took a couple months off just go ohn eight.

817
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, unfortunately for them, they can't, and they're gonna

818
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: be going for the playoffs, which is really strange, and

819
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: they could actually catch the Brooklyn Nets. I mean, they're

820
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: only a half game up on the Orlando Magic for

821
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: seven eight there. So I think the only thing that

822
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: matters in these eight games. There will be jockeying for seeding.

823
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: That will definitely change the eight seeds for sure, But

824
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Speaker 3: as far as like individual accolades, I think Lebron getting

825
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: closer to Kareem abdul Jabar is the only thing that

826
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Speaker 3: really matters. You know, he's going to get to put

827
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Speaker 3: some more points on the board before he you know,

828
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Speaker 3: before the season ends, and probably catches Kareem in a

829
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Speaker 3: couple of years. I think that's I don't think any

830
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: awards hang in the balance. I doubt it.

831
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Speaker 2: I tend to agree with that. Jeff zilget He pointed

832
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: out some remaining steps that sort of need to be

833
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: cleared here still. I said, the first one, it is

834
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Speaker 2: the NBA Players Association and Players Union. They have to

835
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: agree to this port format. That's going to happen tomorrow.

836
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Speaker 2: It's just formality because they've been, you know, in the

837
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: loop here with silver in the leagues, you would assume

838
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: at least so that that'll be fine to go with that.

839
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Speaker 2: They do need to get sign off from Florida health officials.

840
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: They need to finalize an agreement with Disney on the

841
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: use of the complex and those three courts and all that,

842
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: and of course and we can get to this now.

843
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: There needs to be completion of a comprehensive COVID nineteen

844
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: health and safety protocol. And Henry Abbott at True Hoop

845
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: and others have been sort of asking the hard hitting

846
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: quotestions because the league has been and maybe it's on purpose,

847
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: but they've been pretty mum on how they are, you know,

848
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: what they're doing to tackle all of this and minimize

849
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: the coronavirus risk. And what is the science even behind

850
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: them feeling safe enough to reopen the NBA And what

851
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: happens when someone you know, knock on wood It doesn't happen,

852
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: but maybe does contract the virus and it spreads in

853
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Speaker 2: a team, Like there are a million million questions and

854
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: we don't know really any of the answers yet. And

855
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: I know you guys are already sort of alluded to it.

856
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: They're off the top Taskina, especially like the concern of

857
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: the virus, which is still a real thing. And yeah,

858
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: and the numbers are going up in Florida. So why

859
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Speaker 2: do you think tasks, why do you think Silver's been

860
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: maybe so quiet with that. He's just not ready to

861
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: speak on it yet. And they're just quiet, you know,

862
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: have quiet confidence with their numbers and all their you know,

863
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: all the tests they've done and to get ready for everything.

864
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think they know the final plan. I

865
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: don't think they should know the final plan. It's such

866
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: a fluid situation. And I think also, you know, they

867
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: received a bit of blowback in the March area as

868
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: soon as everybody was tested from a few of the teams,

869
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: as soon as the season was canceled. They were getting

870
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 3: tests before regular irregular citizens in the US. And you

871
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 3: know that was obviously a negative blow for the NBA, that,

872
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: you know, the powerful we're getting tests before everybody else.

873
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: And so at this point, with numbers going up, I

874
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: don't think it really benefits anybody. Number one, number two,

875
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: I think you're just leaving yourself out for criticism. You're

876
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: just setting yourself up for holes in the plan that

877
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: everyone's going to criticize, only for it to change a

878
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: little bit later on. And that's okay, for it to

879
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: change a little bit later on to get the best

880
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: possible plan. And so I think that's really it. I

881
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: don't don't really think that there's any ulterior motives going on.

882
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: I think Adam Silver has he's earned the benefit of

883
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: the doubt with me watching the NBA and covering it

884
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 3: for so long. And so it's a plan that's going

885
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: to change. You announce it now just so people can

886
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: just poke holes in it. I understand people are looking

887
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: at those numbers in Florida and are worried, and I'm

888
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: sure I'm positive the NBA is as well. This is

889
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: a business, there's no doubt about it. If you wanted

890
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: to be safe, everyone would stay home. But yeah, they're

891
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: weighing both sides, and there's info to be gathered these

892
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: next couple of months, as you know, as you were

893
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: talking about getting down there, you know, trying to understand

894
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: the situation down there. So it's above my pay grade.

895
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's I don't think it should

896
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 3: be concrete right now, and so it's kind of dumb

897
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: to me to announce it. And I think they've they've

898
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: sort of given themselves a little bit of wiggle room,

899
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: like if things go awry in Orange County where Orlando

900
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: is and Disney is, I mean, you can pull out.

901
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that should be an option

902
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: because it is a fluid situation.

903
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 4: I think one of the issues that players are facing

904
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 4: is that they're going to have to be tested every day,

905
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 4: and the most effective test is still that nasal swab,

906
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 4: which is pretty unpleasant by all accounts, and they want

907
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: to try to find a different way to be able

908
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 4: to test the players. But I think that's the thing

909
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 4: that the NBA can't really negotiate on. It's like they

910
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: need to make sure that every player is tested and

911
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 4: is basically negative every day, because if you go a

912
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 4: couple of days without testing somebody and all of a sudden,

913
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 4: someone has it, then that has the potential to just

914
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 4: shut the whole thing down again. So I think the

915
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: players are trying to find some way of maybe getting

916
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 4: around that perhaps, and that's something that the NBA, as

917
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 4: I say, they've got to be very careful that they

918
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 4: don't take any risks or chances with that part of

919
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: this whole idea, because again, we know how quickly this

920
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 4: spreads and how contagious it is, and if players aren't

921
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 4: doing what they're supposed to do, and I think it

922
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: goes for everybody who's in the arenas, they have to

923
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 4: be tested every day and have their time.

924
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: We're talking about employees at the Disney resort.

925
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and now now taking your temperatures obviously nowhere

926
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 4: near as invasive, but you know, I understand that people

927
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 4: don't want to swab up their nose every single day,

928
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 4: but if that's what it takes, then they're going to

929
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: have to do it unless they have some other way

930
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 4: of detecting or testing the players that is that is

931
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 4: basically going to give you back an accurate result. So

932
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 4: that's going to be an interesting little, I think battle

933
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: between perhaps the league and the players association to see

934
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 4: if see if if there is any sort of you know,

935
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: attempt by the players to avoid having to do that

936
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: every single day. But I think that's that's at a minimum,

937
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 4: that's what's going to be required.

938
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seems to me that the NBA is

939
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: doing their best to bring in as much data as

940
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: they can to make the best possible decision at the

941
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: latest possible date, because we are all giving them the

942
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt, and I think that Adam Silver

943
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: has earned that. But you also look at the league

944
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: and you see that they're bringing six teams that they

945
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: don't need to bring right right, that's another three hundred

946
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: something people who are going to be inside of the

947
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: bubble campus. So I just would imagine that they are

948
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: getting their ducks in a row and they want to

949
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: be as up to date as possible as they can

950
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: at the very last moment so that they can make

951
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: the right decision. Because Taska said it a few times.

952
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: You know, if the numbers are pointing the wrong way

953
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: and if they don't feel safe, there's still an opportunity

954
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: to pull out.

955
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they say too. If a player tests positive for

956
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: the virus, hopefully it doesn't happen, but if they do that,

957
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: the league their intent would just be to remove that

958
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: player from the team, quarantine them, treat them, and then

959
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: continue to test the rest of the team and members

960
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: of the personnel and stuff like that. Like the idea

961
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: is like if one person gets it it it's not

962
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: pushed the big red button shut it down. It's yeah,

963
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: we can cope with this, and they can go into

964
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: quarantine and again test all the other players, and the

965
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: same goes for the employees if it happens with an

966
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: employee at Disney Resort or whatever.

967
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, that's why I think, that's why I

968
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: think it's so important that they are tested every day

969
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 4: so that you get on top of it immediately rather

970
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 4: than be you know, a di or two behind if

971
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: that was the case.

972
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. It's again, there's still a lot of

973
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: unknown And I think you're right tasks. I get what

974
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: you're saying about. You know, Silver's being asked these questions,

975
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: and I think they're fair questions. Like I again, like

976
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: I highly recommend everybody to go read what Henry Abbott

977
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: wrote with his True Hoop newsletter asking I think he's

978
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: had something like twenty questions to the league and and

979
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: they do need to be answered eventually. I understand that

980
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: maybe not now, because it's so fluid and it is

981
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: always changing, and why just sort of like just box

982
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: yourself into a corner when you don't need to. But

983
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: at some point they have to. There's got to be

984
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: the plans for all these unfortunate incidents if they were

985
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: to occur. So I think we'll get it. I'm not

986
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: saying we won't. I don't think we're just gonna be like, well,

987
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: well we'll just play it by ear like we're not

988
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: just gonna get all down there. Really, really, with the

989
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: amount of time they've had and the resources they put

990
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: into this, you think they in theory almost have a

991
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: plan for everything. But wow, you it'd be wild if

992
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: one team suddenly it does, you know, break out in

993
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, what do you do? Then you

994
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: just remove the entire team, Like it's like fascinating to

995
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: think of. And again hopefully it's it's far fetched on

996
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: my thinking, and that doesn't happen at all, hopefully.

997
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, as as possible, other leagues are I think

998
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: a good example, are a good testing ground for the

999
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: NBA as well. I mean there, I think this time

1000
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: allows them just to watch other leagues and what's going

1001
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 3: on around the world, And so I think there's there's

1002
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: two lines of thinking with that. If you know a

1003
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: bunch of players get it from one team, does some

1004
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: doctors say if you're testing every day. You can just

1005
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: take those individuals off the team. But the Korean Baseball

1006
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: League was saying, no, we thought if something like that happens,

1007
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 3: we're shutting down for three weeks initially, but that's already

1008
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 3: changed in the Korean Baseball League since they started a

1009
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: few weeks ago. So I think, yeah, I think it's

1010
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: smart to just wait. And I even even those statements

1011
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: that they made the last May and April about a

1012
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: player coming out, I mean, I don't know what benefit

1013
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: that got that they were going to treat it essentially

1014
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: like an injury. Everybody else can play, but that guy

1015
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: has to be out like it just it just gets

1016
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: more criticism for them. And I understand Henry's thinking. At

1017
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: the same time, they're not playing yet, they're not going

1018
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 3: down yet, and and so uh, you know, I think

1019
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: it would just it would just make Adam Silver a

1020
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 3: lightning rod, you know, as soon as he announces things,

1021
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: and so more time, more information for me.

1022
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: The NBA did deliver other dates to the owners on

1023
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: Thursday beyond this season window, including the draft lottery August

1024
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: twenty fifth, the draft October fifteenth, free agency October eighteenth,

1025
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: and possibly for next season training camps starting November tenth,

1026
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: and JD possible opening night December feet. So I just

1027
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: wanted you to hear that JD, we might be kicking

1028
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 2: up the season December first next year.

1029
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 4: Great, so August twenty five for the draft lottery. So

1030
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 4: we've got a good couple of months to come up

1031
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: with an idea then before that kicks.

1032
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: Off, right, because we always have to, yeah, exactly, yeah,

1033
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: come up with a fun idea to try and predict

1034
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: the actual draft. Good. Pointly, we got time, We do

1035
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: have time. But that is that is really really crazy

1036
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: now that December one the restarting of next season, that's

1037
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: apparently fluid, that's not locked in, that's not when they're tipping.

1038
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: But that is a wow, quick ass turnaround. That is

1039
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: not much much of an off season for of course everybody.

1040
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 2: And maybe that's just the way it's gonna be because

1041
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: originally we thought maybe they'll start on Christmas or maybe

1042
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: even in the new year, but they need to play

1043
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: games to make money, it turns out, and uh, summer first.

1044
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess what I'm saying is if anybody

1045
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: wants to take their vacation now, go ahead and do

1046
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: it in this next couple of weeks. You want to

1047
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: take a couple of weeks. Where are you gonna go? Ah,

1048
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna go anywhere. It doesn't matter, does it.

1049
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to uh animal crossing. I can go anywhere

1050
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 3: I want crossing?

1051
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: Where Tasko for his two week vacation. Now he's just

1052
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 2: playing animal crossing?

1053
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: RH places in Animal Crossing.

1054
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1055
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: I have no idea real sims wame. I'm gonna play

1056
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: the series.

1057
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,319
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1058
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1059
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,000
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1060
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: think of this twenty two team format and the schedule

1061
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: that we know about at least right now, and the

1062
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: Mega Bowl. Let us know if you're in on calling

1063
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: it the Megabowl. I don't even care if we call

1064
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: it like the Orlando, Florida Megibowl or the Lake Bay,

1065
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: Florida Megibol Megabowl. I think should stick. So let us

1066
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 2: know if your thumbs up or thumbs down on that one. Guys.

1067
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,840
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1068
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,839
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1069
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1070
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1071
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1072
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,920
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1073
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1074
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1075
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: seventy six ers actually had a bear come to the

1076
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Speaker 2: arena and the bear there's video. It's amazing the bear

1077
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: would like fight fans. I think they sort of muzzled

1078
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: the bear and this bear just straight up like wrestled them,

1079
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 2: and it like attend to skyrocketed like they had ten

1080
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: times the amount of people come out, and then it

1081
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: was suddenly like a thing skeets.

1082
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: I know, you thought you could master the coin flip

1083
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: from Survivor, and as it turned out, it was possible.

1084
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: You think you could take down a bear in hand

1085
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: to hand combat at a basketball game.

1086
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: No, But the long running question with my buddy Ken

1087
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: is whether he not me, really he's a bigger, stronger guy.

1088
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: Could he beat up a Bobcat? I was always was

1089
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: always a conversation, could a man beat up a bobcat.

1090
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: I think the answer is yes, because I always thought

1091
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: a bobcat was bigger in my head. But it's not gigantic,

1092
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: but of course it's I'm sure it's ferocious. But a

1093
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: bear trade no way. And I I couldn't even know

1094
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: tire a bear, right because they're super fast, I think.

1095
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: So what about that, honey as well?

1096
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: That's right? What'd you say, lee? What about a koala?

1097
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Speaker 4: Bit?

1098
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: I couldn't, actually I was gonna say I couldn't. But

1099
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: aren't they actually ferocious?

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00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 4: Yeah? They are. They are very ferocious. Yeah, don't don't

1101
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 4: believe the one you see at the zoo with it old,

1102
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 4: kettly and friendly. I mean, yeah, they're stoned off the eucalyptus.

1103
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 4: It leaves, that's all they.

1104
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, all right, So go check out

1105
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Speaker 2: film session with deep bamboo. No, not koala bears, that's

1106
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Speaker 2: panda bears. Yeah. Yeah, panda seem a little.

1107
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Speaker 4: More playful, you know, I think. But uh yeah, Koala's

1108
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 4: have got really really sharp claws, like super sharp clause.

1109
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: But they all spind all day up the tree, so

1110
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Speaker 4: they that's why they need him so sharp?

1111
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: All right? Clipper bros, have.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first.

1113
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Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. I remember the halftime act at

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00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 3: the Mega Ball, of course, Red.

1117
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: Panda, Embrace the dead people.

1118
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Speaker 4: You say.

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Speaker 3: Every day, be happy, every miny.

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Speaker 2: It's been so long with your fa

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Speaker 3: Ready, it's gonna be gritty.