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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bechler Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena and we are here.

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Speaker 1: With the Golden Bachelorette runner up. Guy. Welcome, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Bechler Happy Hour. How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 3: to this.

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Speaker 1: Actually nice.

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Speaker 2: We're happy to do you.

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Speaker 1: What exactly are you looking forward to?

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Speaker 4: I you know, I guess it's because I've watched some

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Speaker 4: of these podcasts before and I just thought it would

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Speaker 4: be an enjoyable experience to be able to tell my

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Speaker 4: my my side of the story from what I experienced

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Speaker 4: that it's a little different than some of the other men.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're wrong, because we're going to grill you now.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be uh yeah, it's gonna be fun. So

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Speaker 1: let's uh, let's get into your the beginning of your journey.

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Speaker 1: How did you wind up going on a show like this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had somebody reach out to me on

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Speaker 4: social media who thought that i'd be my profile or

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Speaker 4: that I would be a great candidate to be on

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Speaker 4: a reality TV show called The Golden Battlorette.

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Speaker 1: What were you What are you posting on social media

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Speaker 1: that you think got her attention.

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Speaker 4: It had I think it had pictures of me and

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Speaker 4: my real life what I do on a regular basis,

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Speaker 4: So I tend to put I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't post a lot, but it's.

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Speaker 4: Usually thinks that that represent me, whether I'm riding my

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Speaker 4: bike in the Swiss Alps, or whether I'm riding my

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Speaker 4: bikes on the cobbles Belgium, whether I'm ice climbing in

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Speaker 4: Alaska or sea or sea kayaking, and Prince William sound

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Speaker 4: so I I and then then also post things with

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Speaker 4: my kids because they did a lot of those things

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Speaker 4: with me.

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Speaker 1: Have you always been like an adventurous guy.

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Speaker 4: I'd say, I'd say the answer the answer is yes.

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Speaker 4: You know, back in a former life of mind, I

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Speaker 4: run over ten marathons. I did a Canadian Iron Man,

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Speaker 4: I did multiple triathlons during a certain phase. I eventually

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Speaker 4: then progressed to road biking, and I did. I absolutely

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Speaker 4: loved road biking, and that's why I went to France

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Speaker 4: six times to ride stages and watch the Tour de France.

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Speaker 3: I watched as your Vittalia. I went to.

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Speaker 4: Belgium to ride whether it's called the Spring Classics. Those

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Speaker 4: are some of the things I did back in the day.

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Speaker 4: I did other things also, but those were kind of.

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Speaker 1: I was not I was, okay, wow, all right. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't expecting this. This is this is good. This is

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Speaker 1: how old? What did you do first? Did you do

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Speaker 1: a marathon first?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: The very first marathon I ever did was in New

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Speaker 4: York City Marathon. It was my fourth year in medical school.

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Speaker 4: I was doing in rotation in Philadelphia and on a whim.

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Speaker 4: After staying up till two o'clock for Halloween, I got

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Speaker 4: but I brought running stuff with me. I thought I'd

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Speaker 4: which turned into ten, which turned into fifteen, and then

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Speaker 4: I finally said, you know what, let me see how

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Speaker 3: I ended up running the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was how old were you?

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Speaker 3: I was twenty seven years old at the time.

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Speaker 1: Do you have do you have, like, what's your best

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Speaker 4: You mean my how fast Ian marathon? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: My best was a three twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that was the Callander National.

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Speaker 1: I ran my first. I ran my first one. Last

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Speaker 1: year I did it. I did it three fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: and then I was planning I run it this year.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to break I wanted to break three forty.

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Speaker 1: But then I got sick and I just I had

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I had so many times where I thought, I mean,

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Speaker 3: But all best made plans always come to an end.

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Speaker 1: And you and you ran, and you've done an iron Man.

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Speaker 4: I did the Canadian Iron Man in nineteen ninety nineteen

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Speaker 4: I got up one morning on a Saturday morning, I

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Speaker 3: A half miles without stopping.

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Speaker 4: And at the end of it, I said, you know what,

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Speaker 3: If you stop, you drowned.

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Speaker 4: So I did that. So and that's when I decided

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Speaker 4: the Canadadian Iron Man.

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Speaker 2: Where's the Canadian Iron Man?

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Speaker 4: They've changed locations, but at the time I did it,

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Speaker 4: it was in Penticton, which is just north of Spokane, Washington.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is okay?

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Speaker 5: This is do you have I was just gonna say,

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Speaker 5: do you have a favorite one that you've done? Out

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Speaker 5: of all the marathons, triathlons, everything, is the one that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. For me, it's the New York City Marathon.

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Speaker 4: I did it three times, and I guess the reason

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Speaker 3: It was the largest and I love that you ran

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Speaker 4: Five boroughs, so you got to experience this, the music,

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Speaker 3: It just had this different feel.

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Speaker 4: And flavor and it was just and the sport is

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Speaker 4: doing I ran the New York three times.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Okay, so let's go. Let's go to the show.

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Speaker 1: You you're an adventurous guy. Did you ever think that

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Speaker 1: you would do something like going on The Bachelor?

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Speaker 3: I had. I'd never even heard of it, actually, so.

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Speaker 3: I'd never seen an episode.

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Speaker 4: I knew that there was a show, and what I

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Speaker 4: knew about it was, oh, this is a show where

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Speaker 3: If you don't get the rose, that's a bad thing.

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Speaker 4: And at the end, the the young kids hook up,

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Speaker 4: like I don't know, you keep further long ago, the

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Speaker 5: So when they reached out to you about the potential

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Speaker 5: to go on the show, what was your initial.

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Speaker 3: Reaction My initially honest initial reaction, Yeah, you're honest. My

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Speaker 4: Reaction was when I got reached out, I thought it

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Speaker 3: I thought the person was just trying to scam me.

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Speaker 4: Then I watched four episodes of The Golden Bachelor, and

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Speaker 3: I am not going to do this. However, a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of things changed in my life, and I call this

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Speaker 4: just a transformational journey for me. And that's over the

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Speaker 4: last ten months now, and you know, I started to developing

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Speaker 3: A medical director. I was the chiefest staff of the hospital.

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Speaker 4: I was an er doctor by trade, and I was

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Speaker 4: turning sixty six, and I just thought it's time for

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Speaker 3: With game. I had a lot of times, a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of athletes or whatever, they stick around one year

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Speaker 4: and I still was one hundred percent sure, and I said,

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Speaker 4: not really knowing what it was all about, but I

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Speaker 3: I had no expectations going into the show.

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Speaker 1: When you when you were when you watched the four

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Speaker 1: episodes of The Golden Bachelor, did any of the women

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Speaker 1: stand out to you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's interesting because when they were telling me

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Speaker 4: it and the all the women I thought were lovely.

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Speaker 4: But the person who stood out and I said, in

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Speaker 4: they got to pick somebody new, and that that her

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Speaker 4: was Joan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you let's go to you stepping out of

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Speaker 1: the limo and seeing Joan in person for the first time.

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Speaker 1: What's going through your mind? Okay, are you handling the situation?

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Speaker 1: Are you a nervous wreck?

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Speaker 4: I I was nervous, but you know, surprisingly I never

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Speaker 4: be off the charts nervous about that. I really wasn't.

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Speaker 4: But I can tell you getting out of the limousine,

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Speaker 4: I was nervous, mostly because I had already planned on

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Speaker 4: what I going to say. I had written a poem

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Speaker 4: and I was going to just say it to her.

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Speaker 1: You don't. You don't recite a poem, correct.

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Speaker 3: I don't, And I just did.

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Speaker 4: I did a thing where I just sprayed different colognes

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Speaker 4: on and she had to pick the ones she liked.

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Speaker 2: We really liked your entrance. I forgot that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about I don't know about what. I

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Speaker 1: really liked your entrance because yeah, when we when we

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Speaker 1: when you came out, I remember Serena and I were like,

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Speaker 1: and you were.

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Speaker 2: Very smooth with your delivery.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, it was definitely it was a standout for us.

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Speaker 4: It was fun, it went, It went really well as

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Speaker 3: I was. I was ad libbing everything.

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Speaker 4: But I think the idea that using old factory assent

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Speaker 4: But I didn't know that Chuck was as aggressive as

446
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: I as the way I put as as as he

447
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 4: was with his his his words, his thoughts, his actions.

448
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 4: I was not aware of that because I don't see that.

449
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 4: I don't see them one on one dates. I don't

450
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 4: see that. So and we as men, there was very

451
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: little discussion about that as to you know, what each

452
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 4: guy was saying. Nobody really talked about it.

453
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I honestly that checks out. So then Joan

454
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: Joan shows up to your your hotel room and deliver

455
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: some bad news. But what were you thinking when she

456
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: got there? What was going through your mind?

457
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: And we go back to we actually had our overnight first.

458
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeahs overnight.

459
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: Go go go that again.

460
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: When I had my my overnight date again, just like

461
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 4: my hometown, I thought I had the best. I mean,

462
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 4: we got to go out on the catam Ran, we

463
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 4: went snorkeling.

464
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had some good activities because your one on

465
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 5: one day was like the cooking day, which was also

466
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 5: a good activity.

467
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 4: And it was fun because we got to go out.

468
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: There was sharks, there was eels. It was just it

469
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 4: was just a really fun, magical time. And really enjoyed that.

470
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 4: And then that evening we had a really nice, pleasant,

471
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 4: beautiful dinner overlooking the water. Uh.

472
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: And then we eventually made our.

473
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 4: Ways to the the overnight bungalow.

474
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

475
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 4: And she had said ahead of time, as everybody knows,

476
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 4: that she wasn't going to sleep with anybody, which I

477
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 4: gave her kudos for because I said, you have four kids.

478
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: I have four kids. I said, they don't want to

479
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: see us waking up in our pajamas.

480
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I said, there's time for all that at this age,

481
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: you know, like because I already felt the chemistry. It

482
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: was just you know, but I just I didn't want

483
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: to make her uncomfortable, my kids uncomfortable, and mostly I

484
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 4: wanted to be very respectful because I asked her permission

485
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 4: to kiss her first two times, I didn't just like

486
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 4: make the assumption, and so I, you know, maybe that

487
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: was maybe I should have been a little more aggressive

488
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 4: with that, But so I had a wonderful one on

489
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 4: one day. We talked about a lot of really heavy

490
00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 4: stuff without cameras and audio going on. And that's when

491
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 4: that was my my my mo for it. I said,

492
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 4: you do not need any surprises. Six months down the road,

493
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: I will tell you everything about my life. You asked me,

494
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 4: you have any questions, let me know, and I stuff

495
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 4: I even volunteered that she probably didn't even want, but

496
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 4: I felt like I needed to tell her so that

497
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 4: she wasn't surprised she would be It would be disrespectful

498
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 4: to her and to the whole process and to the

499
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: show because I think, having watched some of the other

500
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 4: ones I've gone, why did they not talk about these things?

501
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: I talked about relocating where I am in my life, retirement,

502
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: How can we make it work, How do we make

503
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 4: our kids meld together?

504
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: How do you see day to day activities? Band not?

505
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: We were living in fantasy land up until that point.

506
00:25:47,359 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 4: And now let's talk about reality.

507
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: Did you guys have a conversation that there was a

508
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: still there was still another guy there, that Chock was there?

509
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 4: I I never, I never had conversations about the other man.

510
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: And it's all subsequently during when I watch a show

511
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: that Chuck talked about that all the time. For me,

512
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: I will tell you, Joe, is that it was all

513
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 4: about for me? Is Joan my person? And am I

514
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 4: Jones person? That was the only question needed to be answered.

515
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 3: I was not there. I did not see in a competition.

516
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: This was not who wins. This was did the two

517
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 3: of us see ourselves having a life together? That was

518
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: the question that needed to be answered. So I never.

519
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 4: Worried about that, Well, she might like Chock, she might

520
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 4: like Pascal. Never even I can honestly say I never

521
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 4: crossed my mind. I said, she either likes me for

522
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: who I am and what I represent, and if that's

523
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 4: if that's meant to be, then she'll pick me or

524
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: we'll get together.

525
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: At what point were you sure that you wanted to

526
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: propose to John?

527
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, after the after the fantasy, sweet night, that that

528
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 4: whole day, and that that that that night, That's when

529
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: I said, okay, we talked about everything We've covered all

530
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 4: the important variables that you need to talk about really

531
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 4: as an adult. And then I journaled and I just said,

532
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: you know what, I feel great.

533
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: I am ready to do this. I am ready to

534
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: get down on the knee.

535
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 1: I was.

536
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: I was ready that day too to talk to our kids.

537
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: I was so excited to see our kids because I

538
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: thought they'd love me confidence.

539
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: But I I I just felt this.

540
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: I felt like we had so many similar interests and

541
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: values that it was like, this is gonna work. I mean,

542
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: that's when I really said, this is this is going

543
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 4: to happen. And I was going to ask her kids

544
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: for their their blessing, you know, and I wanted to

545
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 4: have that. I wanted to and I wanted to see

546
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: real emotion from her children, like we really like you,

547
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 4: not like, uh, he seems like an okay guy. I

548
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 4: mean that I wanted them to really know me, my family,

549
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 4: what I represent, But unfortunately I never had that opportunity.

550
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's talk a little bit about that. So

551
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: she she uh, she knocks on your on your door,

552
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: You let her in. You know, you see, you're you're

553
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: in good spirits. What will break down that situation for us?

554
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so unexpectedly, the knock comes on the door and

555
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: I open it and there she is. Well I should

556
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: have been thinking, oh, this is not good, but I

557
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: was just so happy to see her, and I was excited.

558
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: And then we're talking.

559
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: I show her around and then we sit down and

560
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: we start to talk, and I I was actually hoping

561
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: that she was about to tell me, you know what

562
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: I thought about this, and I think that you're my guy,

563
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: and and I'm gonna let the other guys go.

564
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: That was what I was.

565
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking for two thirds of it.

566
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: Then she got to look on her face and then

567
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: you can see my facial expression go from a smile

568
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: to a foreign, alarmed look, and I I said, oh,

569
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 4: this is about to come. And then when she said

570
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: my heart lives was she told me how wonderful I was.

571
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: She told me every characteristically you know like you, there's

572
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with you, but my heart lives with

573
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: somebody else. And then that that's that's when I that's

574
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: when I got really emotional, because I was so from

575
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: that morning I had during an interview, I had said,

576
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: I'm going all in, I'm getting on a knee, I'm

577
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: going to propose I'm going to ask for a handed marriage.

578
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 4: I was like convinced, and with thirty thirty minutes, that

579
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 4: balloon first and it was over. It was over. And

580
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: so that's why. And I'm a very emotional guy to

581
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: begin with. And when I had decided I was going

582
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: to be all in, that was devastating. It was heartbreaking

583
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 4: to me. And yeah, you can see it. I mean

584
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: they were very kind to me. I sobbed for minutes.

585
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: It wasn't just like ten seconds or something. I just

586
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: could not stop sobbing because I was so convinced that

587
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 4: I was the guy and this was going to happen,

588
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: and I was so happy, and.

589
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: For it to have come to that conclusion was so difficult.

590
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: And then, you know, so we finished up. But I

591
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: made a point to tell her because she felt awful.

592
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: And never do I ever want Joan to feel bad

593
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: because I love Joan. I absolutely love her. I know

594
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: now after months, I will always love Joan. I just

595
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: can't be in love with Joan. Yeah, and so I

596
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: didn't want her to feel bad. Never will I ever

597
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 4: throw her under the bus ever, because she has a

598
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 4: heart of gold.

599
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: She is a wonderful woman. I can't I can't.

600
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: I can't think or say anything negative about her, and

601
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: I say that with sincerity, and so I even said

602
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: to her, I said, Joan, I said, please, don't worry

603
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: about me. Don't worry about me. I am going to

604
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: be okay. But you know, we've all been through difficult

605
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: times in our life, so I knew that I'd be

606
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: able to handle it.

607
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

608
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: I wasn't happy about it, and it took time, but

609
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: I knew I would get through it.

610
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: And I'm still.

611
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: In that process because when I watched the show to

612
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: see everything last night, it was a little more difficult

613
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: than I had anticipated.

614
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 5: I was going to ask if watching the season back

615
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: and seeing her relationship with Chalk, did that help bring

616
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: you any sense of closure or larity.

617
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: It made me understand what his MO was, and it

618
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: made me question myself. Should I have been a little

619
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: more aggressive? But I can only say and do what

620
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: was true to my heart. I was not going to.

621
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: Say things prematurely. I wasn't.

622
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: I could not be all in at the beginning, and

623
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: I just there's certain things I just couldn't do because

624
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: I had to be true to myself. I gotta be

625
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: true to my heart. If not, I am doing her

626
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: a disservice. That's disrespectful to her.

627
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: But so, yeah, so where so currently to date? Where

628
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: are you now? With everything?

629
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: You know, I will say that I, even though I

630
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: didn't win, I won.

631
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: I won. And I mean what I mean by that

632
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: is she allowed me to have that transformational journey. One

633
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: of those is she taught me that. She allowed me

634
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: to realize.

635
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: That I can truly love again, I can that passionate

636
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 4: love again.

637
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: And she did that.

638
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: The Bachelor Show, Gold Basslord Show did that allowed me

639
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: that opportunity with everything that went on and I and

640
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: I will thank them forever for that because they changed

641
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: my life.

642
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: She changed my life.

643
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 5: How was seeing Joan at the finale the other night?

644
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: You know, I was mentally prepared because I just I

645
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: wanted to see her. I was happy to see her.

646
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: I didn't she did say some things that that even

647
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: on TV that made me question her decision. But you know,

648
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: I she picked Chock. That's she's got to go with

649
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: her heart. I mean, that's that's her decision. I can't

650
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 4: make that decision for he's a great guy.

651
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: You know, I really like Chock, you know. Uh so,

652
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: and we were roommates.

653
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 5: I it was harder going on the Golden Bachelorette or

654
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 5: being an er doctor.

655
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: I can tell you probably for the most part, it

656
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: was going on the Golden Bachelorette.

657
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 5: Really.

658
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

659
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 4: Well, only the reason I say that is there was

660
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 4: a couple of times where I was like so nervous,

661
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 4: I said, I'd rather be taken care of two cardiac

662
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: arrest patients. At one time, I said, I'm not patting

663
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: myself on the back, but I'm a really really good

664
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: er doc.

665
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: I can.

666
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: I can make split desks, I know what I need

667
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: to do, split second decision immediately, you know, And I'm

668
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 4: pretty good at that. So and they did it for

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00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: thirty five years, and so I was more comfortable in

670
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 4: that environment, right because.

671
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 5: Maybe if you did thirty five seasons of the Golden Yea,

672
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 5: then it would be a lot easier. But hopefully that

673
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: never happens, because nole is to do as little as possible.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind doing one more.

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Speaker 5: Let's just say, yeah, oh would you do it again?

676
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely? A heart not a question.

677
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: How was the after party in seeing all the guys again,

678
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: seeing boxing, and then there's rumors there was you know,

679
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelor women were also there.

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00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you meet anyone?

681
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: It was great. I love seeing all the other guys.

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00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: I was really looking forward to that because I didn't

683
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: have to go on you know, men tell Allso I

684
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: didn't see them. The other women. I got to meet

685
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: some of the women. They were wonderful, really wonderful. I

686
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 4: didn't get to meet all of them. I really wanted

687
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 4: to meet Nancy. And I never saw.

688
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: Nancy because I thought because I thought she.

689
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 4: Was a sweetheart when she was so supportive of Joan,

690
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: you know.

691
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I didn't get the opportunity.

692
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: But the rest of it was fantastic, and even getting

693
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 4: to meet some of the younger bachelors and people that

694
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: were on the Bachelorettes.

695
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: I'm going, okay, I am part of a bachelor nation.

696
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: Now you are you really?

697
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: Are?

698
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: We?

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00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: We we love Nancy? Are you gonna? Are you gonna

700
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: shoot your shot? Because I believe she's single.

701
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 3: You know what, I have messaged her.

702
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 4: We exchanged messages a few, but nothing of any substance,

703
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: you know, So and I thought if she was really interested,

704
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 4: she maybe sought me out that night, but I didn't realize.

705
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: She was there.

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00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 5: Well, we did hear from our producer that Nancy was

707
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 5: at the party, but she was sick, so she went

708
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 5: home early. But maybe you guys will have a chance

709
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 5: to connect and if you see her, you have to

710
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 5: shoot your shot with her.

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00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: I will, I will, absolutely. She looked.

712
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: She seems like a wonderful woman. She presents herself extremely well.

713
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'd like the opportunity to speak with her.

714
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 5: Is there anyone else, either in Bachelor Nation or any

715
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 5: Golden celebrities that you would be interested in meeting?

716
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: Uh, he's got somebody lined up in there.

717
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 3: You mean in the Bachelor Nation?

718
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just anyone any celebrities that you have a

719
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 2: crush on that oh.

720
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: Celebrities, Yes, like a Hollywood crush. Sure.

721
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's your celebrity crush guy?

722
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: That was an easy question for me to answer, And

723
00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: it's Diane Lane.

724
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: Diane Lane Lane Lane.

725
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: She is.

726
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: I have had a crush on her. I think it

727
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: was the outsiders. She just seems to be She's a

728
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 4: natural beauty. I don't obviously know her, but she just

729
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: seems like a really smart woman, down to earth. She

730
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: seems she seems like natural.

731
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: She's not this made up type of a movie star.

732
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: And she is.

733
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: I think she's sixty fifty nine or sixty, so she's

734
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 4: age appropriate, like I didn't. My crush isn't somebody thirty

735
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 4: years old. It's somebody that.

736
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: Could actually feel like I could actually go on a

737
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: date with.

738
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: And I know that she's I don't know if she's dating,

739
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 4: but I know she's not married anymore. He was married

740
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: to one of the Brolin brothers and that happened about

741
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 4: ten years ago. So I thought, wow, there's my shot.

742
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: So Dan, if you're out there, I said, you know,

743
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: if you want to meet a nice er doc, you

744
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: know that's not your typical Hollywood guy.

745
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: I'm your man.

746
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: There we go. Well, she's probably not listening, but Nancy

747
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: probably is.

748
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 5: So you never know, maybe someone that knows her is

749
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 5: listening and they'll send her this club.

750
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: You never know.

751
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: Well, guy, thank you, thank you so much for taking

752
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: the time out of your busy day. We really appreciate it.

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00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: Thank you.

754
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on bet or Happy Hour.

755
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it. Thank you to both of you, guys.

756
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: I've been looking forward to it, and I love talking

757
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 4: about this stuff. I love it because it was such

758
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 4: a great experience for me.

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00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: Awesome, all right, to all our listeners, Thank you guys

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00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,680
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00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,720
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Speaker 4: Bye,