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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday in my dudes.

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Speaker 2: Good morning swirl then welcome to the No Dunes podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, December thirtieth. I'm JD

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Speaker 2: Skeets and alongside me as always, we got Past Millie.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Hey Tassy, we got the bass Master, ribdem Lips,

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Speaker 2: Trey Kirby. Hell, hey, the international Man of Mystery, taken

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Speaker 2: it to the Max, Lee Ellis freend Ye. Last, but

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Speaker 2: not least making the magic happen. It's JD. Hello, there

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Speaker 2: is and here we are.

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Speaker 3: JD.

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Speaker 2: Remind me later in this podcast. Later in this show,

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Speaker 2: we are going to get your Wonder Woman nineteen eighty

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Speaker 2: four review. I totally forgot about it the other day.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll slip that in a little bit later. Shout

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Speaker 2: Trace got the No Dunks basketball high school like sweater on. Whoa,

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Speaker 2: let's see the dong too? Why not? Oh dong knocked

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Speaker 2: over the mike?

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: That was great, comfy, Yeah, feeling good? Now, okay good.

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Speaker 2: It's not really a classic until Trey's knocked his bike over.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, we're back, Baby, We're back. Sorry. I

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Speaker 4: haven't stood up on a podcast in a long time.

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Speaker 2: I asked for the short. Are the shorts comfy, Trey?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I got bowling ball legs skeet,

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Speaker 4: so I'm filling out those billowing, billowing shorts if you're

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Speaker 4: built like Alexi Bucko Chefski, though, it might be sticking

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Speaker 4: some sticks down through if you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: What we start for this one, and I want to

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Speaker 2: remind her what If you haven't already, make sure you

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Speaker 2: check out the bonus podcast we recorded and posted late

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Speaker 2: last night, with writer Rembert Brown discussing his new podcast,

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Speaker 2: Gaining Ground, the New Georgia, and all the work that

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Speaker 2: went into flipping the State of Georgia blue for the

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Speaker 2: first time since nineteen ninety two, and how Trey Young

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Speaker 2: is making the Hawks cool, and a bunch about the

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Speaker 2: city edition jerseys. Lots of fun, so go check that out.

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Speaker 2: It was Trey, Tass and JD talking to Rembert Brown.

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Speaker 2: I haven't listened to it yet. It went up a

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Speaker 2: little too late for me last night. I had to

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Speaker 2: watch some basketball. But I'm excited today, guys, and by

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Speaker 2: all accounts talking to you guys. It's a fun conversation,

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Speaker 2: a great podcast, So go check that one out. Good

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Speaker 2: times we're had by you guys.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was fun times nice, nice, So there

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Speaker 2: you go, Remember Brown, That podcast is now up. Go

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Speaker 2: check it out. It's up on YouTube too if you

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Speaker 2: want to watch it. All right, we uh, we've got

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Speaker 2: JD's Wonder Woman nineteen eighty review, eighty four review. We've

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Speaker 2: got tweet of the Night, which JD actually has as well.

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Speaker 2: But we're starting here today with a little what you got?

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Speaker 5: What's it? Good?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: What you got? Oh?

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Speaker 2: It's been so long. First one, guys, biggest sigh of relief. Victory.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna give you three options tasks you

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Speaker 2: can get. It started the Bucks, the Celtics, or the

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Speaker 2: Sixers the biggest sigh of relief victory. And what I

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Speaker 2: mean by that is, you know, these teams have not

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Speaker 2: come out blazing, but they got good quality wins last night,

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Speaker 2: some of them in dominant fashion. Which team are you

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Speaker 2: picking there for the sigh of relief victory? Buck, Celtics

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Speaker 2: are Sixers? What you got?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad we're gonna stay away from the Raptors

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Speaker 6: about the fantastic era that was that championship run. A

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Speaker 6: little later in the show, I think the sigh of relief,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go away from the Bucks three point record

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Speaker 6: fourth quarter against the Indiana Pacers, and that one win

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Speaker 6: that they had was a lucky bounce. Even though Jason

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Speaker 6: Tatum won't admit it, that Bank shot against the Bucks

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Speaker 6: way back when it feels like a week ago, that

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Speaker 6: and I just I think they're breathing a sigh of

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Speaker 3: Despite that great shot.

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Speaker 6: He said he played like crap in that game, and

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Speaker 6: he only had four free throws through the first three games.

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Speaker 6: He's had to do a ton with Kemba Walker out.

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Speaker 6: I think he has to do so much in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: He's going to rely on Kemba Walker more. He's going

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Speaker 6: to appreciate he's going to learn from that. But if

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Speaker 6: sure looked like they were going to do against another

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Speaker 6: good playoff team, it could have been three straight losses

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Speaker 6: the Pacers, Pacers and the Brooklyn Nets. Do you rush

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Speaker 6: Kemba Walker back at some point? That would be a worry,

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Speaker 6: And obviously the Beantown Boys and Gals would be up

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Speaker 6: every loss really does matter because it is a shortened

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Speaker 6: season and you just never know they could drop down.

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Speaker 6: I mentioned those playoff teams that they're losing to. There

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Speaker 6: are a lot of good teams at the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 6: Does Danny Ainge have to finally pull the trade. I'm

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Speaker 6: very much intrigued with James Harden potentially being on the

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Speaker 6: Boston Celtics. Again, I think at this point Kemba Walker

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Speaker 6: I think there is some chatter about them trying to

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Speaker 6: now sitting at two and two, I think they're happy.

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Speaker 6: And Jason Tatum going to the free throw line ten

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Speaker 6: a lot better. But again I think in the long run,

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Speaker 6: even though there's some panicking out there, I think this

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Speaker 6: Kemba Walker, There's no doubt about that. Marcus Smart isn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they cranked up the defense there late. Like you said,

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Speaker 2: You said, the Bucks at the single game NBA record

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Speaker 2: knocked off the Reps. So they improved a three and one.

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Speaker 2: So Tray, same question Tasco's he goes with the Beantown

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Speaker 2: Boys and Gals. What of those three teams had the

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Speaker 2: bigger sy relief victory last night?

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Speaker 4: I'm with tass. I think it's Boston just because when

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Speaker 4: you're talking about a sigh of relief, it's kind of

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Speaker 4: got to be something bad that happens for the other

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Speaker 4: fell apart at the end of this game, you know. TJ.

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Speaker 4: Warren followed out with about four minutes left, we got

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Speaker 4: a great Jalen Brown push for a layup. The guy

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter. It feels like it happens every single game.

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Speaker 4: He gets a steal and still has the energy and

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Speaker 4: Malcolm Brogden missed a layup that he could have easily made.

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Speaker 4: Demonta Sabonis went up for a jump shot, turned it

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Speaker 4: into a pass to Miles Turner. He wasn't looking. Jalen

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Speaker 4: Brown had to steal off the inbounds. Demanta Sabonis tried

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Speaker 4: wasn't happening for the Pacers last night. They've had a

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Speaker 4: great start. But it's also a sigh of relief, I

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Speaker 4: think for the Sixers with the way they won against

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Speaker 4: the Raptors. Once Joel Embiid came back and kind of,

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Speaker 4: the ball out, the ball would actually move around the perimeter.

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Speaker 4: It found Danny Green in the corner for a three.

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Speaker 4: At one point there was a massive, almost quadruple team

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Speaker 4: on Embiid. With about a minute left, he kicks it

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Speaker 4: if you're a Sixers fan, you see Danny Green making

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Speaker 4: a three when he needs to make a three. You

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Speaker 4: see Seth Curry doing it again. He had a clutch

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Speaker 4: excited that you're seeing the structure of this team payoff

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Speaker 4: immediately right. You're seeing the problems that you've had in

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Speaker 4: big one. If you're a Sixers fan, you gotta be

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Speaker 4: loving it. You gotta say, hey, our team looks like

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, all three of these wins really like sort of

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Speaker 2: revenge victory too. Leally right with the Bucks killing the

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Speaker 2: Heat after losing to them in the playoffs, and the

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Speaker 2: Sixers have had a lot of licenses to the Raptors

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years when they get Theirs and

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Speaker 2: then the Celtics. The task talked about having already lost

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Speaker 2: to the Piecers get this one last night. Where do

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Speaker 2: you go from those three?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess I probably leaned towards the seventy six

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Speaker 7: is because the Raptors were desperate for a win and

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Speaker 7: the Raptors finding ways to lose. Right now, that's the

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Speaker 7: opposite of when a team's on a roll, they find

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Speaker 7: ways to win. The Raptors just find ways to lose.

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Speaker 7: And they stunk it up right there at the end. Really,

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Speaker 7: they couldn't close it out. Bainsy's big three that was

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Speaker 7: a big turning point there as well. He knocked it in,

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Speaker 7: but then it gets waved off.

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Speaker 2: But the Raptors got waved off about eight minutes later.

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Speaker 7: Exactly, which is even more frustrated. But the Raptors sort

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Speaker 7: of had chances, but then the Sixers in that sort

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Speaker 7: of crunch winning time there, and Embid made a really

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Speaker 7: nice player to get Seth Curry that three at the end,

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Speaker 7: which was kind of the sealer there. And mb to

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Speaker 7: me looks just a little bit more in control of

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Speaker 7: his game right now, which is something I think as

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Speaker 7: the Doc River's influence. That's what I'm giving credit to

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Speaker 7: in that he knows he can be dominant and big

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Speaker 7: at times, but he doesn't always have to do anything.

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Speaker 7: Trust your teammates, trust those guys who can hit threes,

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Speaker 5: So I think it was that one.

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Speaker 7: I mean the Bucks game. That was an impressive win

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Speaker 4: The Raptors blew this one.

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Speaker 2: I really think the Raptor is okay, Okay, Well let's

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Speaker 2: the what you got most disappointing start to the season.

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Speaker 2: I'll hit you with three teams. The Raptors zero and three,

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Speaker 4: On, skates, It's got to be the Raptors. They're the

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Speaker 4: I kid, there are gonna be fine. They're gonna end

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Speaker 4: did feel like the Bucks had been waiting to play

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Speaker 2: Task where do you go with this one? Who's been

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Speaker 6: I was pleased watching that Bucks game for a few reasons. First,

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Speaker 6: perfect night for the Milwaukee Bucks. And it was led

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Speaker 6: Trey said they should be a top six seed. I

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Speaker 2: I would say, no, you're right, it's interesting to see

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Speaker 7: like to me, it's like they're playing well enough to

430
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 7: win games, they just can't get over the line. So

431
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 7: there's a few little problems there.

432
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Speaker 2: But so if I had a panic button in front

433
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Speaker 2: of you right now, you wouldn't be pressing the panic

434
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Speaker 2: button for the Raptor.

435
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 7: Not just yet, not just yet. I mean again, I

436
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 7: give credit to the Sixers for bouncing back after an

437
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 7: embarrassing loss in their last game to the Cavaliers. And

438
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 7: again they closed out the game after the Raptors led

439
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 7: so much of it. I mean, the last forty seconds

440
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 7: of that third period was a tied game, and then

441
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 7: the Raptors rattled off eight straight points. Like, so the

442
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 7: Raptors are figuring out ways to score and to get

443
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Speaker 7: themselves into the lead. Just can't close it out right now.

444
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Speaker 7: I think it will come. They don't have any injury concerns.

445
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,160
Speaker 7: It's just a matter of trying to get that first

446
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 7: victory under the belt and get that confidence in swagger

447
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 7: back well trade.

448
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 4: But help to go to the free throw line. There

449
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 4: may only thirteen point seven attempts worse than the league

450
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 4: Sam you Noo mentioning in the stream team that Trey

451
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 4: Young is taking more free throw attempts than the Raptors

452
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Speaker 4: are as a team. When you're trying to close out

453
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Speaker 4: a game in the fourth quarter, it helps to go

454
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Speaker 4: to the line. I do like this suggestion from Greg

455
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 4: Ray in the stream team who says the Raptors could

456
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Speaker 4: get Al Horford for a first rounder. I think that helps.

457
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Speaker 2: Interesting.

458
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Speaker 4: It's interesting, right, Like I mean, certainly an upgrade over

459
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 4: Baines and Len. You know, Baines and Leon are both

460
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 4: backup centers for the Phoenix Suns. Now the Raptors are

461
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 4: running out there as major pieces. Al Horford is still

462
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 4: a starter in this league, and he has the rep

463
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Speaker 4: of a Joel embiad stopper. The Sixers signed Al Horford.

464
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 4: They're like, we cannot let you guard Joel Andbiid anymore.

465
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Speaker 4: We will submarine our own team just so that Al

466
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Speaker 4: Horford doesn't guard Joel and Bead.

467
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Speaker 7: I've got I've got the trade NBA machine up piece.

468
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 6: Here we go, the trade NBA machine. Here it comes. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 6: Al Horford would help a lot. They just there's they

470
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 6: just fade.

471
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Speaker 3: In the fourth quarter.

472
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Speaker 6: They just they're just not right. They're just they just

473
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,959
Speaker 6: need to see a bucket go in. But yeah, they

474
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Speaker 6: have they have as much as people wanted to say.

475
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 6: Aaron Baines and Chris Bouchet and Alex Lenner are going

476
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 6: to supplement Marcus sol and Serge Ibaka. That's nuts. Yeah,

477
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 6: they've gotten worse at the five spot. But they just

478
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 6: need to see some shots go in. I believe in

479
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 6: Pascal Siakams his form. I think it looks good even

480
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 6: though the shots aren't technically going in. You know, they're

481
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 6: getting a lot from a lot of guys that I

482
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 6: think they're fighting. They just need to see a w

483
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 6: happen in the fourth quarter, and they do it by committee,

484
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 6: and they're kind of waiting for Pascal Siakam to kick ass.

485
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Speaker 3: Somebody just needs to hit a freaking shot.

486
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Speaker 2: Trey, tell me, what's it like when your team wins

487
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 2: a basketball game? Like, is it crazy?

488
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 4: Awesome?

489
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: I woke up this morning heeling jack and juiced.

490
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 5: Awesome.

491
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Speaker 2: Awesome? All right, So it sounds like really that none

492
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Speaker 2: of you guys are panicking when it comes to the

493
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: Raptors being oh and three. We talked about the heat,

494
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: and the Nuggets are one and three. I don't want

495
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 2: to like gloss over them. I know we're going to

496
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: talk about who they played in the Kings a little

497
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: bit later here, so maybe we'll just leave it at

498
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: that right now. They didn't have Jamal Murray in their

499
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: loss last night, but one in three for a team

500
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: that's in the conference finals, you know, not a hot

501
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: start after a little bit of turnover to losing some

502
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: you know, guys like Grant and plumb Lee and Craig,

503
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: guys that helped defensively for a team that wasn't even

504
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: on juggernaut defensively as it was. Maybe it's impacting them

505
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: a little bit. All right, Well, our next one here,

506
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: this one's oh, this one's crazy. Most unlikely MVP candidate,

507
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: All right, unlikely MVP candidate. They are at the table.

508
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 2: They've pulled up a folding chair. At the very least,

509
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: they're jamming their way in the into the conversation at

510
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Speaker 2: this table. Vucevic, Drummond or Julius Randall. Yeah you heard me,

511
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't stutter? Vouch Drumming and Randall having MVP

512
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: seasons here after one week? So who's the most unlikely

513
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: of those three? Ley get us started?

514
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 7: Due to my personal buys against Vucevic, I can't even

515
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 7: joke about him being an early MVP candidate, but I

516
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 7: will say he's been great and the magic unbeaten. So far,

517
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 7: he has been very very good. Just getting those wins,

518
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 7: that's all they need.

519
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: But I can't do it.

520
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 4: I just can't do it yet.

521
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 7: Last night though, we had a battle of the Knicks

522
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 7: and the Cavaliers and it was Randall and Andre Drummon

523
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 7: there for Cleveland and Andre Drummond. Again, he's good. He

524
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 7: puts up these monster numbers, gets the steals and blocks

525
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 7: as well. I don't know if he got WARBOI. I

526
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 7: didn't see war Boy this morning, but he's probably in

527
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 7: contention there. He's been fantastic in the Cavs. Now boy,

528
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 7: I did he, But I will say Julius Randall, he's

529
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 7: almost averaging a triple double on the season. He's twenty

530
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 7: four to ten and seven and a half, and last

531
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 7: night he was the best player on the court. He

532
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 7: was fantastic for the Knicks doing it all, finding his teammates,

533
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 7: hitting the threes, hitting that mid ranger. He's got the

534
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 7: Zach Randolph midranger perfect right now, where he just floats

535
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 7: that up and goes in. But his leadership and his

536
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 7: court awareness and being the best player on his team

537
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 7: is really standing out right now. And the Knicks, again,

538
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 7: this was a fun game to watch. I was excited

539
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 7: to watch it because both teams have been playing well

540
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 7: relatively speaking to what we expect from them, and Randal

541
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 7: was great. He was very, very good last night. So

542
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 7: I think given the record, there are two and two,

543
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 7: aren't they the Nicks right now? Yeah, they're two and two.

544
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to go. I wanted to go with.

545
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 7: Andre Drummond because the Cavs are three and one and

546
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 7: he has been great, But I think Randal is playing

547
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 7: just so well and looking so good out there, So

548
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 7: I'm going to go with him. But yeah, when I

549
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 7: saw this question, I was like, this is a great

550
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 7: question because.

551
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: These two teams.

552
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 7: There was no way I thought we'd be talking about

553
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 7: these two teams a week in deseason for not just

554
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 7: playing well, but winning basketball and playing fun basketball. So

555
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 7: it's great to see. And that was another fun game

556
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 7: last night. Unfortunately the Cavs couldn't pull it off, but

557
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 7: credit to Julius Randall for leading the Knicks to a

558
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 7: comfortable victory there.

559
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's like their point guard. He had

560
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: nine turnovers in last night's game. Yeah, what His shooting

561
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: splits are pretty wild. He's shooting fifty five percent from

562
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: the floor, sixty nine from three, very nice, and seventy

563
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 2: four percent from the line. He's nine to thirteen from

564
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: deep right now, he is. He is on fire and

565
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: setting up guys and scoring. So trail go to you next.

566
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Vooch, Drummond Randall, Who's who's sitting there at

567
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 2: that table, Give me Vooch.

568
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Speaker 4: He's being such a hater. It's a game mate, that's

569
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 4: gotta be Vooch. The way he's expanded his game over

570
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 4: his career has made things easier for the Magic and

571
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: he's been good, you know, But it's always this is

572
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 4: what the Magic do. At the beginning of the season.

573
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 4: They look great, they come out playing defense, the offense

574
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 4: is clicking. Eventually the scouting report will turn around, teams

575
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 4: will figure out how to stop the Magic. But at

576
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: the beginning of a season it always works for some reason.

577
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: It's gonna be Vucevich scoring in the post, maybe scoring outside.

578
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: It's gonna be Evan forty a pomp Fakin shooting a

579
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 4: twenty foot or knocking it down, and it's going to

580
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 4: be Terrence Ross getting buckets off the bench. I feel

581
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: like I've watched the same Magic game for four straight seasons,

582
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 4: but it's working right now. The best they've been since

583
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, the first time they've gone four

584
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 4: and oh since then, if I'm not mistaken, that year

585
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 4: they went to the finals. No, I guess they went

586
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: to the finals in twenty ten, so in June, so

587
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 4: maybe it's just a carry over year. But it's been

588
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 4: a good start for the Magic. How long can they

589
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 4: keep it up? Who knows? Usually by December is when

590
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: they start wilting and playing a little bit closer to

591
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: five hundred ball. We're starting here in December, so maybe

592
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: they're able to stretch it out a little bit longer.

593
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: All right, tray or task. Before I ask you, let

594
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: me just give you the stats. We heard Randall's stats,

595
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: But Vouch is averaging twenty points per game, eleven and

596
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: a half rebounds per game, nearly four assist per game.

597
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: He's shooting splits forty eight and forty five, so he's

598
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: on fire from distance. Twenty four point two. Peer Drummond, meanwhile,

599
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: is a twenty and fifteen guy with three and a

600
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: half assist per game, shooting forty six percent from the floor.

601
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: Pretty similar peer twenty three point six. Who you going

602
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: most unlikely MVP candidate of those three in the East,

603
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: those beasts from the East.

604
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: Ah, this is a crazy question because.

605
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: I saw this question and I liked this question.

606
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw this question and I thought of last

607
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 6: year when Andre Drummond was absolutely bawling out early on

608
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 6: for the Detroit Pistons, and then he got traded for

609
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 6: a second round pick.

610
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: Months later.

611
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 6: He was literally in the conversation four best centers in

612
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 6: the game with Jokic and Embiid. That was a conversation,

613
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 6: and he was up there because he's putting those numbers

614
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 6: up like he does every year. So some of those

615
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 6: numbers are important because he grabs a lot board some

616
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 6: of them are empty stats. I think Vuca's stats are

617
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 6: a little bit more impactful right now. Vouch's sort of

618
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 6: the center of the offense, and they don't have an offense,

619
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 6: you know, if they don't have Nikola Vucevic out there,

620
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 6: they're scrapping and clawing for points. So Vouch is my

621
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 6: MVP of this unlikely MVP trio because you know, Julius

622
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 6: Randall's gonna fall off a bit, and uh, Andre Drummonds

623
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 6: stats just don't mean the same to me as Vouch.

624
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 6: But hopefully Vooch can keep it up. This is a

625
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 6: Magic's offense kind of just falls apart at some point.

626
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: It's just it just.

627
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 6: Doesn't stay in that flow. And then and then Aaron

628
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 6: Gordon can go to his proper role of not trying

629
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 6: too hard out there. If Vouch is doing this, So

630
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 6: Vooch has the talent. It's it's kind of crazy to

631
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 6: see him not not do it for a full season.

632
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: So hopefully you can do that.

633
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: I gotta pick Randall with this one. This uh, this

634
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: great question, but a crazy question. As we have to

635
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: note just because Vouch has been an All Star, and

636
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: you know Lee hates him, but we've talked about him

637
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: and his unbelievable abilities before. Drummond has been what a

638
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: two time All Star. I think Drumming made an All

639
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: NBA team if I'm not mistaken. So you know he's

640
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 2: in the conversation. Should just be one of the better guys.

641
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: But Randall, come, Randall, give you a rick that was

642
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: for you Tree, Randall.

643
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: This is wild.

644
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: And I saw the athletics Mike Vorkanoff pointing out that, unfathomedly,

645
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: the Knicks lead the league in three point shooting a

646
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: full week into the season. That is crazy. Last season

647
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: they were right near the bottom and they haven't been

648
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: in the top twenty in years of Workanoff pointed out,

649
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: So for them to be just hitting all these threes,

650
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: a lot of them set up by Randall. He has

651
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: their point guard, which is wild. He's like Blake Griffin

652
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: basically for them. But twenty five, eleven and eight, hello,

653
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: and he's gotten better. He like there's some turnovers were

654
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: bad last night, but he is better with the ball.

655
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: He's a more willing passer for sure. He's not. He's

656
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: he used to pound that rock man like that thing

657
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: would go in and say, has a dribble dribble, dribble dribble,

658
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: Like just like the blinders on, he sees the guy

659
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: in the corner, he zips it over there now, so

660
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: he's become a bit of a better decision maker of

661
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: my opinion. Well this is like continue, Probably not, but.

662
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 6: He's a great baller when he keeps it up. Can

663
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 6: he keep it up with all these these guys? Because

664
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 6: the Calves were the number one three point shooting team

665
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 6: going into last night when they played the Nicks then

666
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 6: they clanked. I mean, it's never too early to talk

667
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 6: about MVP candidates. I think next year we should get

668
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 6: on the horn on Tuesday night through one half of

669
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 6: basketball and started talking.

670
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, never too early.

671
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 7: All right, Well, sorry, just one other thing with Drummond though.

672
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 7: Statistically he's averaging three steals and three blocks a game.

673
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for pointing that out.

674
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I mean that that is incredible though, tass.

675
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 7: You're playing fantasy ball these days, he must be like

676
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 7: one of the top ranked players for sure. Because it's

677
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 7: field com percentages fifty five per cent I guess he's

678
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 7: free throws and he doesn't give you the threes obviously,

679
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 7: but uh, you know, I mean to put up those

680
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 7: sort of numbers on both ends of the floor is incredible.

681
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me check my lead.

682
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: He's shooting for fifty five percent. Oh is that right

683
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: on the field. Yeah, it's not.

684
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: Oh that's not good.

685
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

686
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, he seems like he's in about the twenty twentieth

687
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 6: spot fantasy maybe twenty five garbage up the line.

688
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: You got no threes from him and he hasn't. Yeah,

689
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: been lights out from the floor. Oh man, we're talking

690
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: fantasy ball.

691
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: Talking fantasy ball and talking to Calves. Hey, Andre Drumson

692
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: was traded for a bag of beans YaST year, and

693
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: it honestly seems like it has worked out for the

694
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: Cavaliers a lot a bit, right, because he's a fast guy.

695
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: Like he's a fast center. He's still an athletic, and

696
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: that's the way this team should be playing. With the

697
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: sex Land backcourt there, they need to be playing fast,

698
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: and I think that on bringing in Andre Drummond has

699
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 4: kind of unlocked that for them, having a big who

700
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: can run alongside those guys rather than Tristan Thompson and

701
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: Kevin Love, who have been the bigs usually for the Calves.

702
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 4: They're not fast break kind of players, but when you're

703
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: throwing out Larry Nansen Andre Drummond, it works.

704
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: Working right now, Oh, claud we did that question.

705
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 5: A couple more.

706
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: What you got, Trey will go to you first. Kings

707
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: beat the Nuggets last night. They're three and one. Sons

708
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: beat the Pelicans in the second game on TNT. They're

709
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: three and one. So of those two, Phoenix and Sacramento

710
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: more likely to make the West playoffs.

711
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: If you had to pick one, what you got, Well,

712
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: if I got to pick one, I think the Suns

713
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 4: are a lock.

714
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: To me.

715
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: The bubble does not seem like a mirage at all

716
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: for Phoenix. They look professional, they look like they're on

717
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: the same page. Cam Johnson has been really solid so

718
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: far this season. He's rising up the ranks of handsome

719
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: NBA players out there. I've been impressed with the Suns.

720
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: They really handled the Pelicans last night. And these are

721
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: two teams that you would think would be sort of

722
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: in the same tier, you know, trying to make the

723
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: playoffs for the first time in a while. But the

724
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: Sons look like a class ahead of the Pelicans, no

725
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: doubt about it. That being said, I'm pretty impressed with

726
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: the Kings so far. When Darren Fox checks in in

727
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, he makes every single play that needs

728
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: to be made. Buddy Healed has been solid for them.

729
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 4: Harrison Barnes has been really good. But the big story

730
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: last night was the Tyrese Haliburton coming out party. This

731
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: guy does not look like a rookie at all. He's

732
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: bossing around everybody else. He's saying. Hassan whitesaid, here's where

733
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: you need to be, Deren Fox, Here's where you need

734
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: to be. And he's played what four games now in

735
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: the NBA. The Nuggets broadcast compared him to Andre Miller.

736
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: I thought that was a nice comparison. I also saw

737
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: somebody call him skinny Brandon Roy. I don't know exactly

738
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: which is the right one, but he fits in perfectly

739
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: with the King's back court they've been bringing off the bench,

740
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: and I kind of think he'll be starting in not

741
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 4: too long just because he just connects so many pieces.

742
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: He can hit like a crazy thirty footer with that

743
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: weird looking shot, yes, or he can just move the ball.

744
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: He just gets people in the right places. He looks

745
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: like he's been playing in the NBA for ten years already.

746
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent agree. I'm loving the Kings right now.

747
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: I like to see them get some victories here too.

748
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm just like terrified that when the Kings ever have

749
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: like a little good run and things are going well

750
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: and they're winning games, someone inevitably gets hurt on the Kings.

751
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: Always happens, So I feel like I'm jinxing it already.

752
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: But you're right about Haliburton man like like he's sort

753
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: of I don't know where my mind goes to like

754
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: a flollow for some reason. I don't know why, to

755
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: just like a guy that's just like really good and

756
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: it's just for whatever reason makes all the like rights

757
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: play small things and just helps his team like look

758
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: like a competent basketball team and he's a rookie. I'm

759
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: with you on that, Tray Bagley, I think is looking

760
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: pretty solid too. They're moving the ball really well. They're fun.

761
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: They had a fast break last night where it was

762
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: like no you no, you take it, No you take it,

763
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: you take it, And it was like Buddy Healed was

764
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: included in that, Like Buddy Heel the years prior was

765
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: taking it, but you know he's dropping it up. They're

766
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: playing fun. That was a nice victory, I thought, And

767
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: that was like they were dominating in the second quarter,

768
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: up huge. Then they give it all back in the

769
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: third and you're like, uh, yep, Sacramento and then they,

770
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: like you said, Fox comes in, so steadies the ship

771
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: along with Haliburton, and they pulled out a really convincing victory.

772
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: That was a great one. I'm high on the Kings

773
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: right now, but the Sons, I will say, tat before

774
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: we get your answer on this one. Like I didn't

775
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: watch that game. I see the box score in the

776
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: morning or see the score, excuse me, and I see

777
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: the Suns punk them. I'm like, oh, Booker must have

778
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: went for thirty five. Maybe Chris Paul had like a

779
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: triple double or something like. Those guys did nothing. Booker

780
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: and Chris Paul like combined for like I don't know what,

781
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: are like eighteen points, seventeen points, so like that maybe

782
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: even less, they did nothing and they still got a

783
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: very very convincing win. So who would you pick between

784
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: the Sons and Kings to be more likely to get

785
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: in there?

786
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Suns are showing that they're a well rounded team,

787
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 6: kind of like the Bucks last night they get twenty

788
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 6: nine threes and Yannis hits zero. Their best player doesn't

789
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 6: contribute to the final storyline there. I think it's the

790
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 6: Kings at this point. As far as the playoff team,

791
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 6: the Sons, I do agree the bubble was not a facade,

792
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 6: but then you get Chris Paul in there. The only

793
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 6: mistake they've made is that they didn't pick Tyrese Haliburton

794
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 6: at the ten spot when I had the chance, and

795
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 6: they let him go to twelve. A lot of people

796
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 6: calling him the most Polish player. Yeah, his his form

797
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 6: ain't all that good. But to me, even though his

798
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 6: cousin is Eddie Jones, which is crazy, he didn't know that.

799
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 6: I think he kind of looks like Doug Christie out there,

800
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 6: and I don't think it's just because of the Kings

801
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 6: that I think there's gonna be a lot of split

802
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 6: screens between Tyreus Haliburton and Doug Christy just physically the look.

803
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 6: But yeah, he's he's the adult in the room when

804
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 6: he gets out there on the floor, Haliburton just saying

805
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 6: a beautiful town in Ontario. The guy is a good ballplayer.

806
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: He is.

807
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 6: He just knows what to do out there. I don't

808
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 6: know if he starts, because then you piss off buddy

809
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 6: healed again, and so I don't know what happens there,

810
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 6: but yeah, he is.

811
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: He's not really like.

812
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 6: Your prototypical, come off the bench and fire away type

813
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 6: guy because he's he's not necessarily a shooter, but the

814
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 6: shots are going down right now. He's shooting fifty from

815
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 6: three to fifty six percent from the floor. And yeah,

816
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 6: he's he's a perfect king at this point, a young

817
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 6: guy who knows what he's doing and that they've they've

818
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 6: swung and missed over and over and over again in

819
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 6: the draft and to get him at twelve was a

820
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 6: godsend for them. So they got to be pretty frigging

821
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 6: happy right now. And they beat a Nuggets team. Yeah,

822
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 6: that we should talk about. They came out of the

823
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 6: gates last year really really great on the defensive end,

824
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 6: and now they're the exact opposite. They were a top

825
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 6: two defense for a long time. Now they're a bottom

826
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 6: three defense. And yeah, I think that has to do

827
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 6: with Jeremy Grant and Torrey Craig not being there and

828
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 6: Michael Porter being in that starting lineup and them just

829
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 6: not gelling on that page. That was definitely the worry

830
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 6: with Porter going into the starting lineup and they're going

831
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 6: to kill people on the offensive end, the question is

832
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 6: the defensive end, and even though Yokich looks like an

833
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 6: MVP candidate, it's got to be a team effort on

834
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 6: that end. And I'm shocked with Jamal Murray out that

835
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 6: they couldn't pick it up because you would just think, oh,

836
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 6: we're going to rally around our superstar not being in

837
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 6: the lineup.

838
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: That was a bad, bad loss for them.

839
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 2: Lee more likely to make the last playoffs. The Sons

840
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: are the Kinks.

841
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 7: I have to go with Chris Paul on the side.

842
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 7: I just have to because there's something a little bit

843
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 7: more reliable about him being there just getting that team

844
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 7: over the line. The Kings, it's been great, no question,

845
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 7: they've been fun to watch, but it just feels like

846
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 7: we've seen this before a couple of times, and then

847
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 7: all of a sudden it just completely the wheels fall off.

848
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 7: Someone gets upset, someone gets angry, that someone gets injured,

849
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden they lose eleven in

850
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 7: a row, and lest it's a disaster again. So you know,

851
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 7: I hope that's not the case, because it would be

852
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 7: good to see the Kings finally break through and get

853
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 7: into that Plane tournament. That would be an enormous that'd

854
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 7: be a bit crazy.

855
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: But we would have probably like a Brogden like situation

856
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: if the Kings were winning enough games and Haliburton continues

857
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 2: to contribute, but he doesn't have dominant box scores, there'll

858
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: be like the whole like, who's more deserving a Rookie

859
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: of the Year. Would it be him or is it

860
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: like Wiseman who's putting up you know whatever, twenty and

861
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: tens or stuff like that.

862
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 6: I could see that that's a pretty good comparison too,

863
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 6: as far as comps go.

864
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: Broggden, Yeah, Brogden, Yeah, very solid, winning basketball player. So

865
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: absolutely think.

866
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 7: Of Haliburton though, Like against the Nuggets in that first season, No, no,

867
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 7: he was. He was good against the Nuggets even in

868
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 7: Game one, Like he's he's come into the league ready.

869
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's been that could be one of those surprises.

870
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 7: A couple of people were picking him as a sort

871
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 7: of dark horse Rookie of the Year candidates.

872
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: John Holland, you remember when we talked to him about

873
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: his MIC draft. All I remember is he heated everybody

874
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: except Haliburton. He's like he's the only good player in

875
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: his draft. I mean, I'm kidding a little bit, but yeah,

876
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: I know you're right.

877
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 3: People are right.

878
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's good.

879
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 5: It's good.

880
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 7: And Buddy Hiel, we know that he's not super happy

881
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 7: just in Sacramento right now, but he hasn't been pouting

882
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 7: on the court. He's been playing really well. And Aaron

883
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 7: Fox does look like he has just mature to a

884
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 7: level where he's like, I am the best player on

885
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 7: this team. I have to go out there and and

886
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 7: and win games like a good point guard, like someone

887
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 7: like Chris Paul does. And he's done that.

888
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's good.

889
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 7: It just feels a little bit like, man, these don't

890
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 7: don't get too good too early and then have that

891
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 7: that fall off.

892
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: Just be a fly under the early.

893
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, but so far, one good thing for the for

894
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 7: the one good thing for the Son's a good sign

895
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 7: is that you know, Chris Paul hasn't had to do

896
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 7: too much for that team, which is good. You don't

897
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 7: want him to be the best player on that team.

898
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 7: He's got to be like their third best player behind

899
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 7: Booker and Ayton and just pick his spots. And so

900
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 7: that's a good sign there for Phoenix, which hopefully they

901
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 7: can sustain it as well.

902
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: Fun question for you guys out there in the stream

903
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: team and for anybody listening a little bit later. You

904
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: can tweet at us at no dunk sank all of

905
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: these let us know your answers. But more likely to

906
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: make the West Playoffs? For which team are you enjoying

907
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 2: watching more right now? Even sons are the Kings because

908
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: it's nice to see him.

909
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: Get some victories.

910
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 6: Go ahead for sure, and I'll just jump in. And

911
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 6: also fun to know that Tyres Haliburton born in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

912
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 6: Oh that's fun saying I didn't know that was a place.

913
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 6: Talked about Haliburton on tar and I'll talk about Oshros And

914
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 6: I see again a great stat you guys brought up

915
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 6: earlier from the stream team that Trey Young averaging more

916
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 6: free throws than the entire Toronto Raptors team. I see

917
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 6: it now mentioned for a second time here in the

918
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 6: stream team. You got a credit who it comes from?

919
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 6: I know, I know, you know stats aren't Uh, what's

920
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 6: what's the word I'm looking for you know, you can

921
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 6: everybody can find stats on their own. But somebody came

922
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 6: up with that stat because I've seen it elsewhere. Give

923
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 6: a little bit of credit, all right, Just just credit

924
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 6: somebody because I got you. I know, John Schuman's on

925
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 6: the on the on the stream team here, and a

926
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 6: lot of times people don't credit him for the deep

927
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 6: stats that he finds. Right, somebody throw throw a bone

928
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 6: because I know Samuel No No, Samuel No No, and

929
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 6: Greg Air they saw it from somebody who did it?

930
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 3: Who came up with that?

931
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 5: Who found who.

932
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: Found that stat? Yeah?

933
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.

934
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to blow up shoes spot here, but

935
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: I know Shoe gets very angry when he's watching a game,

936
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: oh say, on League Pass, and he hears a very

937
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: very specific stat that he obviously put the work in

938
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: the fine and shared with the world on Twitter or

939
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: on NBA dot com, and they don't credit my man, Shoe.

940
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: That's got to be a little infuriating, there's no doubt.

941
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, via NBA dot com.

942
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 6: You don't even to credit Schuman if you don't want

943
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 6: to say his long name, that's fine.

944
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: Last names. How many heaches were in there? Double?

945
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

946
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: So credit your stats people. We try our best here.

947
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: I think we do a pretty good job of it.

948
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: But hey, keep us honest too, you know, keep us honest.

949
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: All right? Our final one, Lee, you really wanted to

950
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: get this one in here because you love ripping on coaches. Man,

951
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: you are ruthless. You know that hotter seat? Lee, who's

952
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: on the hotter seed? Is it the Wizards coach Scott

953
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: Brooks or is it the Pistons coach Dwayne Casey? A

954
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: good question?

955
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: I like it.

956
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: Hey, Man, you said we had I had a good

957
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: question earlier. You have a good question now, so you

958
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: answer your own question.

959
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 7: This is a great question. Yes, to say, Lissa, this

960
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 7: is this is a tough one because when you look

961
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 7: at the two teams, Okay, the expectations. The Pistons are

962
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 7: a team that's clearly rebuilding, so the expectations there to

963
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 7: win and to make the playoffs and not quite the

964
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 7: same as they are with Washington. Washington's like we should

965
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 7: be making the playoffs. Scott Brooks is in the last

966
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 7: year of his contract. There are four and they lose

967
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 7: to the al Mighty Bulls last night. You know, I mean, look,

968
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 7: he's a very nice guy, great, great guy, but it's

969
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 7: almost like what you know him? You know, not really,

970
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 7: but listen, the thing is that it feels like when

971
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 7: you're the Wizards and you have the expectations and the

972
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 7: coaches in the last year of his contract, it's like,

973
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 7: this is the odd We've got to make something move

974
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 7: without making a trade, without bringing a player in out fire,

975
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 7: the coach gets a new voice in there because you

976
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 7: know that was a bad loss to the Bulls. You

977
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 7: know that was the one they should have won last night.

978
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 7: Both teams, of course, desperate for a victory last night,

979
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 7: and the Bulls did it pretty easily in the end.

980
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: I would say, pretty comfortable.

981
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 5: I don't know trade you.

982
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 7: I know you were nervous the other night and then

983
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 7: it blew up in your face. How did you feel

984
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 7: last night watching the game there?

985
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll never feel secure in a ten point lead

986
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: for the Balls. I saw them have a ten point

987
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: league going into the fourth quarter. I'm like, this is

988
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 4: going to be a last for sure. But that's why

989
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 4: I got scarty too hearty as well on the heart

990
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: seed Ashbush b gosh, you lose to the Balls like that.

991
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: It was a disaster. I mean, the first half was oh,

992
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 4: by just throwing the ball around both teams, nobody playing defense.

993
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: But the Wizards kept at it being bad. In the

994
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 4: second half. They finished with twenty one turnovers. And you know,

995
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: I'm watching this on my laptop. I got the sound

996
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 4: off just so I can be peeping that while Laura's

997
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 4: watching something on the big TV. And there are so

998
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: many times where it looks like there's a whistle blown

999
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: and play has stopped, but then the Bulls are shooting

1000
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 4: a layup at the hoop and you're like, oh, right,

1001
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 4: that's just how the Wizards play defense. There are just

1002
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: times when somebody will cut down the lane and nobody

1003
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: has any idea who's guarding them. I mean, we're not

1004
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 4: expecting the Wizards to be good, but I overestimated him.

1005
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: I thought they would be in the mix for a

1006
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: playoff spot, and right now it just looks like Russell

1007
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 4: Westbrook and Bradley Beal putting up stats and zero effort

1008
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: on the other end of the court. It's a disaster.

1009
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to go with Brooks being on the

1010
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: hotter seat than Casey. I thought the Pistons would be

1011
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: the worst team in the league, and they're living up

1012
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: to that. Building I don't think it's Casey's fault. He's

1013
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: just got to figure out. He's just kind of like

1014
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: we've talked about, get the trade value up for some

1015
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: of his vets that they can hopefully flip for young

1016
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: guys and draft picks. But yeah, Brooks, I mean, they're

1017
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: expected to be a good team tasks. Some of us

1018
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: were very convinced, do you go Brooks, Scottie too haughty

1019
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: or cool? Casey? I don't know what.

1020
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 6: This is a good it's a good question, Lee, but

1021
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 6: it's not as good as the underrated most Valuable Player

1022
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 6: candidates or unlikely most valuable.

1023
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1024
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 6: I think it's Scott Brooks, the Dwayne Casey situation. Yeah,

1025
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 6: he's playing young guys. I think he plays his young

1026
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 6: guys until he basically says at the end of games like, god, okay,

1027
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 6: they're not playing well enough.

1028
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: Let's get Blake in here.

1029
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 6: And Blake left yesterday's game under concussion protocol. Got one

1030
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 6: in the mouth, so he left the game. There's there's

1031
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 6: question marks around that team, and that's to be expected

1032
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 6: with the Wizards.

1033
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they expect to win. I am.

1034
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 6: I thought they'd have a year here where Russell Westbrook

1035
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 6: would be good and then and they come to a

1036
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 6: point where Bradley Beal's like, Okay, I don't know how

1037
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 6: good we're going to be. Maybe I should get out

1038
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 6: of here, but it might come sooner than that. And

1039
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 6: I wonder what point they're going to regret that Russell

1040
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 6: Westbrook trade kind of like you know, okay s did

1041
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 6: or the Houston did with that, with the trade for

1042
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 6: Russell Westbrook way back in the day. They're just not

1043
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 6: playing well, not playing well at all. Don't like watching that.

1044
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 6: And I got it, hold on, hold on, before you go,

1045
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 6: who's got a leaf?

1046
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: Blow? I got blows?

1047
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 6: Nice, sweet sweet sweet. Let me just jump in here.

1048
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 6: Give credit to Rob Mahoney according to Sam, you know,

1049
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 6: not for the stat Yeah, yeah, let's go, yeah, give

1050
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 6: it to him. It's not proprietary information. Stats aren't proprietary information. However,

1051
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 6: let's give.

1052
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I'd like to point out that the Wizards are

1053
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: oh and four. I'd like to credit NBA dot Com

1054
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: for that stat. I don't know who's in charge of

1055
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: their standings. Might be cute Steve, but I'd like to

1056
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: credit him for letting me know the Washington Wizards are.

1057
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: I do have a question about the Wizards though, because

1058
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: you're seeing it already happen. Is this Westbrook's fault? That's

1059
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: what people are pointing the finger immediately at Westbrook. He's

1060
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: averaging a triple double, you know, the nineteen fourteen thirteen

1061
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 2: in the three games he's played. He's not shooting well

1062
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: forty one percent, I think from the floor. I'd like

1063
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: to credit cute Steve I believe for that stat as well,

1064
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: one for ten from three, a lot of turnovers. But

1065
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: is this his fault? I saw Ziller and his you know,

1066
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: in his newsletter this morning pointing out that when Beeal

1067
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: and Russ are out there, the Wizards are plus twenty

1068
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: nine and so they're good. It's when we.

1069
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: Thank you for crediting Zi, thank you for a.

1070
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: Shout out to ghost face Ziller. But when Westbrook is

1071
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: not out there, you know, that's when they're falling apart. So,

1072
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just a little worried that, like uhh

1073
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: zho to four Wes Russ is the new guy there,

1074
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: it's his fault. I'm not sure that's the case. That's

1075
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: the easy angle, but I'm not sure I actually buy that.

1076
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: But I know people will say, no, it's Westbrook. That's why,

1077
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: you know, great, he got trouble levels, So what they lose?

1078
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

1079
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 7: Wells, the stats don't back up that it's Westbrook's problem.

1080
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 7: I mean, there's so much more there to the Wizards

1081
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 7: than you guys. We've sort of talked about that. The defense.

1082
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 7: They just don't care, so teams can score whenever they

1083
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 7: want and Westbrook is out there doing what we know

1084
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 7: Westbrook can do. I mean, he's kind of gotten rid

1085
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 7: of that three point shot a little bit. He's going

1086
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 7: into that mid range, which is his shot, and he

1087
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 7: can do that. So when he's on the court, when

1088
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 7: he's on the floor, the team's going okay. So I

1089
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 7: don't think he does deserve to have the finger point

1090
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 7: out of him in the past on some of the

1091
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 7: other teams he's been on, yes, because he tries to

1092
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 7: do too much, But when he's out on the court,

1093
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 7: he's playing okay. The Wizards are just a badly constructed

1094
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 7: team and that's really the problem here.

1095
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: You know.

1096
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 7: Again, Darvis Burtown's had an okay game last night, but

1097
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 7: they signed him for five years and eighty million. He

1098
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 7: doesn't play defense, you know, so they're just they're just

1099
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 7: not a team that's that's constructed well enough to really compete.

1100
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 7: You're bring in Westbrook again the triple doubles. Great, he's

1101
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 7: not shooting you know all that well, but he's he's

1102
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 7: sort of contribute. It's just where else where else is

1103
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 7: the talent on this russ the outside of Bale and Westbrook.

1104
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 7: That's the real question.

1105
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, but what do you have Russell Westbrook as a

1106
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 6: guard on your team? Yagatta has some scrappy defenders around

1107
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 6: it because Russell Westbrook isn't going to be scrapping defensively

1108
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 6: all the time. It's just you've seen it happen. That's

1109
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 6: just the way it's gonna work. Ruy echri Muran not

1110
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 6: being in the lineup definitely hurts. He is one of

1111
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 6: those scrappy dudes. But also Russell Westbrook sitting games also hurts.

1112
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 6: He's also missed a game, so I think you can,

1113
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 6: you know, throw some some blame on that for that loss.

1114
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 6: Because Russell Westbrook wasn't around. They need scrappy dudes in

1115
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 6: the lineup. So I think Eazac Banga and ruy echmur

1116
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 6: are going to play lots around Russell Westbrook because that's

1117
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 6: what you need in terms of a constructed roster around

1118
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 6: Russell Westbrook.

1119
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: How long does Brooks get here, You think, Trey like,

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00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: how bad does this have to get until they will

1121
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: fire him and say, well, we got to get somebody

1122
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: else in here to try and write the ship.

1123
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 4: Well, I guess that will depend on if they lose

1124
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 4: against the Bulls again on Thursday, the Balls again, Maybe

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00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: that's it. Maybe they said, come on, man, what are

1126
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: you doing. You're losing to the Bulls twice in a week.

1127
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: But I think who knows. I mean, maybe they valued

1128
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 4: the stability in having the same coach there for a while.

1129
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 4: You know, I remember Randy Whitman. It seemed like this

1130
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: guy was going to be fired for three straight seasons,

1131
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 4: and they kept bringing him back, bringing him back, bringing

1132
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 4: him back. There is the pre existing relationship with Westbrook,

1133
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: which maybe factors into the decision as well. But the

1134
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: team looks exactly like they did last year, despite the

1135
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: fact that they did bring in another player. You know,

1136
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 4: there was no John Wall last year, so theoretically you

1137
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: upgraded just by having another all Star caliber player out

1138
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 4: there on the court. But they look no different than

1139
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 4: they did last year, and the problems that the Wizards

1140
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 4: had last season are the exact same problems they have

1141
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 4: this season. It's gonna be tough to find somebody else

1142
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: to blame eventually for that. So, I mean, you gotta

1143
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: think it's a month maybe. I mean, I guess it'll

1144
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: depend on how this month goes, if they turn it

1145
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: around quickly, if they're able to look like they're at

1146
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: least competit it for the play in tournament in the

1147
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference. I guess that helps. But you gotta beat

1148
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 4: the Bulls on Thursday.

1149
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 6: The question is what would they be better with John

1150
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 6: Wall playing instead of Russell Westbrook because he plays on

1151
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 6: both sides.

1152
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a good question. I mean maybe, Hey, in

1153
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: a show filled with good questions today, that might be

1154
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: the best. Yeah, all right, but I need time to

1155
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: think about it.

1156
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, great, And.

1157
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: We need to get to JD's Wonder Woman nineteen eighty

1158
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: four review. But we have an update on the severity

1159
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: of Ja Moran's injury just quickly here. I guess the

1160
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 2: news could be worse. You tell me if I'm wrong, guys.

1161
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: According to the team, the Grizzly star point guard has

1162
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 2: a Grade two left ankle Sprain. He's expected to miss

1163
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: three to five weeks. That timeline would put him around

1164
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: you know, late January, early February probably in coming back.

1165
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 2: He's gonna miss like fifteen games, maybe a little bit more.

1166
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: Even they're already missing Jared Jackson junior Justice Winslow. Can

1167
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: Mensis survive Guys League?

1168
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 5: Can?

1169
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: Can they? I think in trouble here having obviously their

1170
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: star player out for a decent chunk of time.

1171
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they are because they got the win

1172
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 7: when he sat against the nets there the other night,

1173
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 7: but that was obviously a close one. But yeah, they've

1174
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 7: got the Lakers in a back to back as well

1175
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 7: coming up. It's just hard to see that the Grizzlies

1176
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 7: can really hang on at this moment because they aren't

1177
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 7: a deep team and they need any wins they can get.

1178
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 7: And obviously when Ja was playing, they hadn't broken through yet.

1179
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 7: So yeah, this season could get away from them pretty

1180
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 7: quickly here. But the three to five weeks is good.

1181
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 7: You know, a younger guy, you know, he's going to

1182
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 7: want to get out there soon. So hopefully it's on

1183
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 7: the shorter side of that that that term there and

1184
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 7: he can get back within three weeks, but so many

1185
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 7: games playing so close together that the Grizzlies could find

1186
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 7: themselves in a bit of a hole here pretty quickly.

1187
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: Kyle Anderson slow mo give them the ball. He's their

1188
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: point guard, Tias Jones, he's sort of their backup point guard.

1189
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: Maybe he gets it going here, Tray, do you have

1190
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: any faith that they can survive here without Jaw?

1191
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 4: I'm with Lee, it's not just needing to get Jaw back.

1192
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: It's gotta be Jaw and Jaron Jackson, because the defense

1193
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 4: has been pretty bad for the Grizzlies so far, and

1194
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: that's where Jaron Jackson can really help stabilize them. Right now,

1195
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: if you look at the Grizzlies roster, they got seven

1196
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 4: guys on the injury list, and that's gonna be tough.

1197
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Jaw is the big one. If he's

1198
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 4: missing three to five weeks, like you're saying, Skeets, that

1199
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 4: could be fifteen games. Their schedule, it isn't insane. They

1200
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 4: do have the Lakers twice, the Blazers twice, then that's

1201
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: in the sixers. But they play some other teams who

1202
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 4: are kind of on their same level, so maybe they'll

1203
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 4: able to you know, build around Kyle Anderson, build an

1204
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 4: offense around him because he has been scoring the ball

1205
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 4: pretty well lately, Like he'd never gotten to twenty points

1206
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 4: more than twice in his career, and he did it

1207
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 4: twice this week, you know. So he's got the talent

1208
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: to be able to be a playmaker, to be a scorer.

1209
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 4: But they got to be able to stop somebody on

1210
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: the other end, because the offense is not gonna come easily.

1211
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: Like Anderson might be able to put up points. You

1212
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 4: might have a hot Dylan Brooks game, but these are

1213
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 4: not reliable guys who are going to be putting twenty

1214
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 4: five on the board every single night. It's gonna be

1215
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 4: tough for the Grizzlies. There's a lot of games smashed

1216
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: into a short time frame too. If you have a

1217
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 4: bad stretch, that can put you out of the mix pretty.

1218
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: Quick, Yes, it can. Uh Justice Winslow, I don't know

1219
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: when he is scheduled to come back. Test. I know

1220
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: you're high on him. He could in theory play point two, right.

1221
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: We saw that experiment a little bit when he was

1222
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: with Miami. But he didn't play last night and I

1223
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: don't know when they expect him back. It should be soon.

1224
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, January sometime for Justice Winslow. But what uh,

1225
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 6: what kind of shape is he going to be in?

1226
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 3: Is he?

1227
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 6: Is he a guy who's just gonna, you know, come

1228
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 6: along slowly in January and February. I mean to come

1229
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 6: in and basically be the best, ask them to be

1230
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 6: the best player and run the show. It's this is

1231
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 6: gonna be a lot for guy who basically didn't play

1232
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 6: last year either. Did Evening get if it suit up

1233
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 6: last year? I mean, I really believe in Justice wins

1234
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 6: will when he's healthy. He was an untouchable for the

1235
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 6: Miami Heat at the beginning of last year, which sounds

1236
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 6: fricking nuts when you think about it, but he was

1237
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 6: until Tyler Hero and Hendrick Nunn and Ducan Robinson came around.

1238
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 6: They thought, Wow, this dude's going to be our future star.

1239
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, I believe in him as long as he's healthy.

1240
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to tweet of the night.

1241
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: Tweet over night, Wow, j D.

1242
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: You know every five days we give you this honor. Yeah,

1243
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: look at Twitter and give us a tweet of the night.

1244
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1245
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 8: And first of all, I like to give credit to

1246
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 8: Jay Skates for this tweet.

1247
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 5: Put it in the.

1248
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 8: Old slack last night or this morning, and it was

1249
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 8: great because I was really really stuck.

1250
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 5: And it comes.

1251
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 8: From our friend Kelsey O'Brien of Basketball News and the

1252
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 8: Dishes and Dimes podcast, in response to the Raptors lost

1253
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 8: to the Sixers. I'm not worried about the Raptors being

1254
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 8: down zero to three because I have gigantic honkin boots.

1255
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 2: I laughed so hard when I first saw this tweet.

1256
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't just you get to the end of the tweet,

1257
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: and I wasn't ready for it.

1258
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, cackled.

1259
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: She's very funny, I.

1260
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 5: Mean, honking hoots, just like chefs.

1261
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 8: But also this, it's the the This is the optimistic

1262
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 8: bright side attitude I'm looking for heading into twenty twenty one.

1263
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 8: You know, like, yes, the Raptors stink right now, but

1264
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 8: I'm comfortable in my own skin, and you know, Kelsey

1265
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 8: an inspiration and moving forward. This is what I'm going

1266
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 8: to do when things are bad. I'm just gonna look

1267
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 8: down on my body, pick a part I like, and you.

1268
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 5: Know, just reflect on it. You know, at least you

1269
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 5: got like.

1270
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 8: Wraps are down zero and three, but damn my thighs,

1271
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 8: they're fire.

1272
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: So I love it.

1273
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 2: That is a great tweet, So you know I pitched

1274
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 2: to it. So let's get your take on Wonder Woman

1275
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four media because I did forget to come

1276
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: back to the last couple of days.

1277
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 8: No where is nowhere is such a cliffhanger here pretty

1278
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 8: pretty low on the list of priorities. Uh listen, I Uh,

1279
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 8: when I was watching it, I was thinking, Man, I

1280
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 8: wish I wish I was in the theater watching this

1281
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 8: so I could walk out, you know, make it make

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00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 8: a statement. You know, it's been a long time after Uh,

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00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 8: it's you know that the first time inutes are great.

1284
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 8: Like there there's this whole thing where the you see

1285
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 8: Diana as a little girl and she's she's she's doing

1286
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 8: this obstacle course and uh it's back on the island

1287
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 8: whatever the islands called. But uh and then it just

1288
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 8: it goes down, hit up falls off a cliff. It's

1289
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 8: like the one of the worst movies I've seen in

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00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 8: a very long time.

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00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

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00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know how deep I could do

1293
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 8: a whole show on this, to be honest, might to.

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00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 5: It's like it's like film reviewed.

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 7: Son is a luck out.

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00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: Everything about it is bad.

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00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the decisions that were made are hilarious. Like

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00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 8: right after the great scene, we end up in a

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00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 8: mall in the eighties, which we were all expecting.

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00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 5: It's called w W eighty four, you know, but.

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00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 8: It felt my Rachel was like, this feels like Pee

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00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 8: Wee's big adventure, Like this is this is And the

1303
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 8: more I thought about it, the more I'm like, man,

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 8: she is so right.

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00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 5: It's like this.

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00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 8: If Pee Wee Herman was written as a superhero, this

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00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 8: would be that movie. It's it's literally the the mcguffin

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00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 8: is a wishing stone where all your wishes come true.

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00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 8: It's it's insane. It's got my favorite Chris. Chris Pine

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 8: is my favorite Chris.

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Speaker 3: Oh Chris.

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00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 5: I love Chris Pine. I love him, love him. Why

1313
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 5: do they have to be?

1314
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: Is Chris Pine attractive?

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00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 5: I find him very attractive.

1316
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: I feel seems little busted to me.

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00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 8: That's what makes him attractive. He seem slightly broken, ye,

1318
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 8: but why did he have to be in another guy's body?

1319
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 8: I don't even understand that? Sor right, there's there might

1320
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 8: be some spoilers here, but.

1321
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: The mall, the male scene is so bad it's laughable.

1322
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 8: It's like and then it's just that just that it

1323
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 8: just it's got every trope that you could expect, like stereotype,

1324
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 8: and then it just gets worse. Like Kristin Wiggs character is,

1325
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 8: how many times do we have to see this bumbling,

1326
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 8: sort of socially awkward person become a super villain?

1327
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 5: Like what, why? Why? Why did they do that?

1328
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 8: Also, when I was watching Kristen Wig, I was wishing

1329
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 8: she was wonder Woman. I'm like, why not cast her

1330
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 8: as wonder Woman because she's so much more interesting and

1331
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 8: she's funny.

1332
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 5: And I don't know, like Gail Gyle.

1333
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 8: Didn't do it for me this time, just like I

1334
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 8: was just this is so stiff and it might not

1335
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 8: be her fault.

1336
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 5: I think it's the writing.

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01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 8: I think this movie was buried in notes. Like I

1338
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 8: think they sort of started LA, we're gonna have fun,

1339
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 8: it's gonna be in the eighties, it's gonna be great

1340
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 8: and uh, and it's just like the studios just just

1341
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 8: bombarded them with stupid notes.

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01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 5: That's what I think.

1343
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 8: Also, how do you have a movie take place in

1344
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 8: the nineteen eighties and there's literally no music eighties music

1345
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 8: in it?

1346
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 5: Like, there's one song and it's what is it?

1347
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 8: Frankie goes to Hollywood Welcome to the Pleasure Dome and

1348
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 8: it's in it. You can barely hear it. And by

1349
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 8: the way, not to Nippick, but that song came out

1350
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 8: in October of nineteen eighty four, and that scene takes

1351
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,479
Speaker 8: place before July fourth, oh, nineteen eighty four.

1352
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 5: Not to Nitpick, not to Nippick.

1353
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair JD.

1354
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, anyway, I hated it zero out of five.

1355
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 5: Chris is how many chriss are.

1356
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: Well, how many chriss are there there?

1357
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 3: Buying Hansworth Pratt? I mean I just think there's three.

1358
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: Evans Evans Evans.

1359
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta have Evans, come on, it's Captain where one?

1360
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 4: Chris spin Wig.

1361
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so happy we asked you just for the quote.

1362
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: I wish I was watching this at a theater so

1363
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: I could walk out.

1364
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 5: Have you ever walked out of a movie in a theater?

1365
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? What was the only once? The Nicholas Cage Ambulance movie.

1366
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 5: Oh, bringing Out the Dead.

1367
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about this before.

1368
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1369
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't stand it. I was not in the

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: right mood for it. And I just got up and

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01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: I said, no, thanks, but that's it. Yeah. I don't

1372
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: know about you guys. Anyone else walk out of a movie?

1373
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1374
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 4: I walked out of The Libertine with Johnny Depp. It

1375
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 4: was just me and my girlfriend at the time, were

1376
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 4: in the theater. Thought it would be a sexy movie

1377
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 4: and it was not. Like, Man, I'm into Johnny Depp

1378
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 4: wearing a wing not that wig? Wa what have you

1379
01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 4: walked out of?

1380
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 7: Kevin Costner and Ashton Kutcha made The Guardian in two

1381
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 7: thousand and sixty. It was absolutely atrocious and I was

1382
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 7: super hungover watching it, so I was like, I can

1383
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 7: sit through anything except that. Seriously, watch it like it's

1384
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 7: incredibly bad. Just so bad. Wow, so stupid, such a

1385
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 7: stupid storyline, bad acting. Ah, man, it's awful task.

1386
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: You ever left the movie theater?

1387
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, just a few weeks ago. I got coughed on

1388
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 6: so I left and their clothes just kidding. One movie

1389
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 6: theaters come back?

1390
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: Oh boy, okay, let's get to pick them. Results from

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01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: last night. It was that Raptor Sixers game. I threw

1392
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: on the reverse jinks I tried, I did. I took

1393
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: Philly to cover the two and a half, and well,

1394
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: I got the victory in the pick them. I'm not

1395
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: even happy about it. Everybody else took the raps thinking

1396
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: they'd get their first victory. They did not, So tasses

1397
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: three and two, Leaves three and two, Trace two and three,

1398
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: and I am leading the way right now at four

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: and one.

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01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: Task.

1401
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: We got six games on tonight? What's our pick them game?

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01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 6: Milwaukee and Miami remashed from yesterday, the Bucks laying it

1403
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 6: on Thick. With an NBA record twenty nine threes, wouldn't

1404
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 6: expect the Bucks to be the team that holds the record,

1405
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 6: but they did it by two, beating the Rockets record

1406
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 6: of twenty seven. So repeat, they're six and a half

1407
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 6: point favorites going into Miami. Miami just has to lose

1408
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 6: by six or less.

1409
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 3: Oh what you got?

1410
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: This is tough? This is weird. A team just gets

1411
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: hammered by forty seven on national TV, and then they

1412
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: got to turn around and play them again and the

1413
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: line's only you know whatever, six and a half? Go ahead, Lee,

1414
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: where are you going with this? You can?

1415
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he bounce back.

1416
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 7: So Jimmy Butler, I don't think he's officially ruled in

1417
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 7: or out yet and Igudala sat yesterday as well for

1418
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 7: rist so I expected at least one of those guys back.

1419
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 7: But if you're the Box and you just put up

1420
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 7: one hundred and forty four points against the Heat, I

1421
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 7: think you can win by seven points or more. So

1422
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the Bucks in this one.

1423
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so am I I'm going Milwaukee to cover this

1424
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: as well. What do you got, Trey?

1425
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 4: Well, you know, in a baseball series like this, the

1426
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 4: question always is did you burn through your bullpen? Do

1427
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 4: they still have it the next night? Give me the

1428
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 4: Bucks if we don't know, if about Jimmy, Yeah, it's

1429
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 4: kind of hard to take the heat right now, give

1430
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 4: me the Bucks.

1431
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: Tasks Yeah, Jim, Jim, Jim Jim.

1432
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: The culture, the culture, heat culture.

1433
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Are they gonna fight back? Uh? Yeah, I'm gonna

1434
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 3: play it safe and go with the Bucks.

1435
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: What everybody's Milwaukee to beat Miami by seven points or mora?

1436
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: Let's hear from you guys. What else we got on tonight?

1437
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: We got the Hawks and Nets, Hornets, Mas Lakers, Spurs, Blazers, Clippers,

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01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: and I'm forgetting one. They're Grizzly Celtics. In addition to

1439
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: the Bucks, heat, so enjoy the game tonight. We will

1440
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow to break them all down. Hopefully we'll

1441
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: have some great questions to throw it each other, maybe

1442
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: even some better answers. Email your questions in No Dunks

1443
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,360
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01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,960
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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,600
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1447
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: let's call it there, Clipper.

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01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 5: Bro, you heard it here first. Have a great time,

1449
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 5: turn up.

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01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome.

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01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us, and remember got to give thanks

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01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 6: to NBA dot Com and Steve Cantana for that fantastic

1453
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 6: schedule we've got tonight in the NBA Embrace Today people, you.

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01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 5: Could stay.

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Speaker 1: Every day, Daggie happy, every minute. It's done so long

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Speaker 1: with your Lona ways already, It's gonna be goody