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I don't know what kind of voodoo 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers have been engaging in but apparently you've 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: got to beat him five times in two weeks to 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: send him home. Because for the third consecutive series, trailing 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: by at least seven in the final minute, Tonight, trailing 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: by eight in the final minute, the Pacers have won 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: a game out of the jaws of defeat. I just cannot. 45 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: I looked over at my wife as the last free 46 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: throws were being shot by the Knicks, and I looked 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: at her and I said, there's no way they do 48 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: this again. There's absolutely no way they do this again. 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: And they did it again, and in just comical fashion, 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: as Tyrese Haliburton is dancing in the middle of the 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: floor and then just deciding to cover fifteen feet backwards 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: towards the top of the key, the shot off the 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: heel that goes way up in the air, and the 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: entire basketball world just freezes and all of us we're 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. We're like, that kind of went 56 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: straight up in the air, that's got a chance to 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: come down, and it came down, and the Pacers are 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: up one oh in the Eastern Conference Finals. On a 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: night I was talking with Shane, Shane's works on our show. 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: He's a Knicks fan. There is so much to be 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: confident and excited about. If you were a Knicks fan 62 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: coming out of that game and you lost, you're down 63 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: one zero in the series. I can't believe it. So 64 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: many interesting things to get into. You guys, owe the 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: drill before we get started. Subscribed to the Hoops Toight 66 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: YouTube channels. You don't miss any more of our videos. 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter at underscore Jason LTC. You guys, 68 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: don't miss show announcements. 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That's 77 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: where you guys can decide which direction you guys want 78 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: to go in terms of digging into some of the 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: deeper details of the series. And then when we wrap 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: up here tonight, we're going to be migrating over to 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: playback playback dot tv slash Hoops tonight where we have 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: our after show. It's a lot more informal. We take callers, 83 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: we take questions from the chat, we watch film, we 84 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: hang out, we talk shit. It's just a fun basketball talking, 85 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, kind of hangout hour that we have after 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: the show. So come hang out with us on playback 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: when we finish up later tonight. What a bizarre game, 88 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: I feel, like, you know, it's so funny. I joke 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: with the people that, you know, the in my friends 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: and family that asked me what my job is, like, 91 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: I was telling them, like, the craziest thing is these 92 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: live reaction shows, because like you're trying to piece together 93 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: all these things that happen in the game. And so 94 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: obviously I prep a lot for my job. So I 95 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: put together extensive prep for how I'm going to tell 96 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: the story of the basketball game. And then the Indiana 97 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Pacers three times in this postseason have made me just 98 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: rip that up and throw it away as they turn 99 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: what looks like a very different game into a PACER's win. 100 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: It's absolutely unbelievable, and everyone knows everyone who's been following 101 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: this Pacers team in this postseason run knows they literally 102 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: never stop playing. You are not done with the Pacers 103 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: until the final buzzer sounds. There is no relenting, there's 104 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: no letting go of the rope. Every single time you 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: make a basket or miss a basket, they're picking you 106 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: up full court. Every single time you go get a basket, 107 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: they're taking even if you make it, they're taking it 108 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: out and they're trying to push the ball ahead, first 109 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: available kick, ahead pass, first available advantage. They're hunting it, 110 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: they're looking to attack quickly, feeling as though their ball 111 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: pressure will wear you down, feeling as though they will 112 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: be able to win the large sample battle. And for 113 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: the record, like even though there was a lot of 114 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: really encouraging stuff on the Knicks front, we'll get into it, 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: I thought Jalen Brunson looked exhausted in overtime. They had 116 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: a couple he had a couple of buckets, but they 117 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: had a couple of grifts that he got rewarded with 118 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: four foul shots in overtime that you could tell, especially 119 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: on the last step back three, the one before the 120 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: offensive rebound. He did not get a lot of lyft 121 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: on that shot, and he left it way short. And 122 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: that's the game that the Pacers play. It's a wear 123 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: and tear game. It's a leaning on depth kind of game. 124 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: Like even with the overtime period tonight, only two Pacers 125 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: actually went over forty minutes. They will wear you down. 126 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: They never stop again. Ask Cavs fans. They had him 127 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: dead to rights. Max Drus gets a huge three point shot, 128 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: They're up seven, doesn't matter, Game's not over. The Bucks 129 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: Gary Trent Junior three after three, after three, it doesn't matter. 130 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: Games not over. They play with such a furious pace 131 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: and they're so capable of getting insanely hot. Aaron Nei Smith, 132 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: that is one of the greatest heat checks you'll ever 133 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: see in an NBA playoff game. Six threes in the 134 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: final five minutes. Every single one of them was tough 135 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: on the move. One of the things I've been talking 136 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: a lot about with respect to Anthony Edwards is a 137 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: trend that I expect to see really take over in 138 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: the new NBA, in the future of the NBA, which 139 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: is seeing supreme athletes become great shooters. It didn't used 140 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: to be that way back in the day. It used 141 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: to be the supreme athletes didn't work very much on that. 142 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: It was even denigrated in the lower levels of basketball. 143 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: Is settling. If you were a good athlete and you 144 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: took a three, you were wasting an opportunity to use 145 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: your athleticism going towards the basket. We are seeing guys 146 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: like Ant rise and fire and hit tough shots because 147 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: they have ridiculous athleticism. When you combine the shot making 148 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: with the ability to get lift in separation, it's deadly. 149 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: And it didn't matter what the Knicks did with Aaron E. 150 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: Smith down the stretch, he just rows up, got his 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: lift and then right at the top, just that flip 152 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: of the wrist. That's where his muscle memory comes in. 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: I and Aaron E. Smith is one of several Pacers 154 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: players that has just made these minuscule improvements year over 155 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: year each of the last few years, and they're all 156 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: just better basketball players now than they used to be. 157 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: And then Tyre's Halliburton. We talked about it going into 158 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: this playoff series. As great as Jalen Brunson has been 159 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: and he's been the best clutch player in the NBA 160 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: this postseason, Tyre's Halliburton has been right there behind him, 161 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: and he has a tendency to It's been much lower 162 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: volume than Brunson butt like just unbelievably high efficiency. He 163 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: just keeps making every single big shot at the end 164 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: of games that needs to be made. He seems to 165 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: be very comfortable operating there in the middle of the floor. 166 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just can't believe it, guys, I 167 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: just can't believe it. All a very interesting flow. Obviously, 168 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: the Pacers come out red hot, hitting every single shot 169 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: they take. I think they start the game eight for eight. 170 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Then Mitchell Robinson checks into the game and is just 171 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: a human wrecking ball, grabbing a ton of offensive rebounds, 172 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: providing some vertical spacing and ball screens. Is good, great 173 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: work on defense, throwing guys around. With this physicality, the 174 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: Knicks kind of regain control of the situation and they 175 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: kind of stiff arm the Pacers in that you know, 176 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: three to seven point range for a good chunk of 177 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: time going into that early fourth quarter stretch we did 178 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: see as both offenses were very comfortable in the first half, 179 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: we saw both defenses shift to a lot more switching 180 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, which got rid of some of 181 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: the natural openings that were existing for both teams, and 182 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: both teams started to struggle to score the basketball, and 183 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, TJ McConnell drives on Jalen Brunson 184 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: along the baseline, Pump fakes, catches a swiped down on 185 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: his right arm and picks up Brunson's fifth foul, and 186 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: it's ninety four to ninety two with about ten minutes left, 187 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: and the Knicks just completely took over the game from there. 188 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: Ognanobe giving buckets to Ben matherin a step back three, 189 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: an aggressive move in the lane, Carl Anthony Towns draws 190 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: a foul, and a transition cross match from aaron Ne 191 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: Smith as he's trailing to play in transition. Duce McBride 192 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: a smart cut to the top of the key draws 193 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: a foul. Carl Anthony Town's another left shoulder hook over Siakam. 194 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: He kicked Siakam's ass during that stretch. All of a sudden, 195 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: we look up and the Knicks are up by sixteen points. 196 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: It's one eighteen to one oh two. Pacers don't really 197 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: have anybody in rhythm. You know, the game's not over 198 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: at that point, but at the same time, the Pacers were, 199 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: or the Knicks were able to kind of stiff farm 200 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: him until that five minute mark, and it looked like 201 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: they were going to get out of there with the wind, 202 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Aaron Nee Smith just 203 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: every single time down the floor. The crazy thing is 204 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: is the Knicks were getting buckets during that stretch. Brunson 205 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: beating Ben Shepherd straight iso at the top of the key, 206 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns anice little semi transition attack off the 207 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: left wing, gets a layup. They were scoring and it 208 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: didn't matter because the Pacers were scoring every single time 209 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: down the floor. I did think in overtime that the 210 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: Pacers started getting better shots. Now the Knicks looked very 211 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: much shell shocked. They legitimately looked shell shocked. I don't 212 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: blame them. I was shell shocked and I wasn't even 213 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: playing in the game. But like the Pacers did in 214 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: overtime get quality looks in their offense, the Knicks kind 215 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: of degraded down to Jalen Brunson iso ball. I thought 216 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: the play that Andrew Nemhard made on that kind of 217 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: decoy action. The Knicks come out of a time out, 218 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: they run like a decoy action on the right side 219 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: of the floor for McHale bridges, and they have Brunson 220 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of fly all the way through to the opposite 221 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: side and Andrew Nempar jumps it and just gets in 222 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: the passing lane into the ball. It ends up going 223 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: off of Brunson's fingers out of bounds. You guys, saw 224 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: just how relentless Indiana's ball pressure is. There were two 225 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: plays towards the end of regulation where they nearly turned 226 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: the ball over. That play where Josh Hart kind of 227 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: tripped and fell and he somehow managed to recover to 228 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: the ball. Jalen Brunson gets trapped on that first inbounds 229 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: right by the baseline and while he's falling out of bounce, 230 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: has to rifle a bounce into the back into play 231 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: to try to give his team a chance. And thankfully 232 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: og In and Obi had to be there. But the 233 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: Knicks kind of lost their composure against Indiana's ballpressure. And 234 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: here's the thing, guys, It goes back to that point 235 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: that I was making earlier, as it pertains to the 236 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: Pacers just never stopping from the very first possession of 237 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: this game. The Pacers weren't just full court pressuring Jalen Brunson. 238 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: They were denying him on the inbound. They were trying 239 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: to get in front and prevent him from getting the 240 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: ball at all. Whatsoever. It is not like they started 241 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: doing anything unique or different down the stretch in terms 242 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: of their pressure. It's the same shit they were doing 243 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: all game. A few more traps obviously in the back 244 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: court when they got especially desperate, but most of it 245 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: is just ball pressure, ball pressure, physicality, jumping passing lanes, 246 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: trying to turn you over and again, it is a 247 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: forty eight minute job. This is not the first time 248 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: they've done this. Even if you pull away from the 249 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: specifics of the last minute comeback, they have multiple large 250 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: deficit comebacks in this postseason run. They Game five in Cleveland, 251 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: they were down what forty eight to twenty four or 252 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: something like that in the first half, and they ended 253 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: up losing that game. Like they just never stopped coming 254 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: at you. It is a team wide dynamic that manifests 255 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: almost as though it goes beyond what you see on paper. 256 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: With the talent with this team. I just was completely 257 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: blown away tonight. I think the dynamic that this series 258 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: is going to swing on is the ability to contain 259 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: the basketball. This is where I want to get into 260 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that there is some encouraging stuff. 261 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: If you're a Knicks fan, you now have to beat 262 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: the Pacers five times. That's going to be a pain 263 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: in the ass, but you do have the tools with 264 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: which to do so. I thought that with exception of 265 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: really overtime, I didn't think the Pacers had any sort 266 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: of extended stretch of defensive success against the Knicks. And 267 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: again overtime, the Knicks were shook in the first half 268 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: a lot of traditional coverages. You guys want to know 269 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: why Miles Turner sat out the majority of the second 270 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: half of this game and then played all of what 271 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: ninety seconds in overtime before Carlisle pulled him again. The 272 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Pacers were running a lot of traditional coverages, especially to 273 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: start the game, and Miles Turner was doing a god 274 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: awful job defending the screener and the ball. There was 275 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: a play where do Bride got an early layup in 276 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: this game where he was like hugged up to Mitchell 277 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Robinson up at the top of the key. In general, 278 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: the Pacers were trying to account for Cat and his 279 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: catch and shoot threes by staying off of that that 280 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: ball handler and ball screens, and you were just seeing 281 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: Brunson get downhill over and over and over again. Mckaal 282 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Bridges was getting into the paint whenever he wanted to. 283 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Brunson you could tell feels immensely comfortable against Nemhart and 284 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: Nie Smith relative to Drew Holliday. I think one of 285 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: my big thoughts coming out of this game was some 286 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: contender needs to be reading the tea leaves here and 287 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: identify that Drew Holliday is one of the most impactful 288 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: defensive players in the postseason and jump on that guy 289 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: because he could come in and instantly raise the ceiling 290 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: of your defense because Brunson and Nemhart and Nie Smith 291 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: are too very good on ball defenders and Jalen Brunson 292 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: is just too big and too strong for them. The 293 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: big thing I noticed was in those ball screen actions 294 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: when brun and someone was going over the top, that 295 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: automatically put the on ball defender into the sidecar or 296 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: into the back position right trailing or in that like 297 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of jail and on the hip sort of position. 298 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: And Brunson was just very easily able to kind of 299 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: bump guys off in that position and get all the 300 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: way to the rim. Then in the second half when 301 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: they started going into more switching and that there were 302 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: still some traditional schemes that both teams were still like 303 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: trying not to switch if they could, but if anybody 304 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: got hit by the screen, they were willing to switch. 305 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: In that second half, and in that second half, same 306 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: sort of thing. It didn't matter who it was. Brunson 307 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: was able to get to his spots against his primary defender. 308 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: And so there's some encouraging stuff on the Knicks front 309 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: where I do feel like they're going to be able 310 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: to score the ball effectively and consistently in this series. 311 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: On the flip side, I thought that they had some 312 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: extended stretch of successful defense against the Pacers. So for instance, 313 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: in that big run that the Knicks had while Jalen 314 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: Brunson was off the floor, they had success in switching 315 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: and in their traditional schemes. You guys remember that play 316 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: where duce McBride blocked Pascal Siakam on the dunk, traditional coverage, 317 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Siakam slips pocket pass, Siakam takes off and there's a 318 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: rotation from duce McBride off the baseline, a huge blocked shot. 319 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: A couple possessions later, they run like a little you know, 320 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: wedge screen to try to get Siakam a little separation 321 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: before he sets the ball screen for Halliburton. Halliburton gets 322 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: down into the lane, Josh Hart nail help off of 323 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: Nie Smith, nice kickout, and Josh Hart just throws a 324 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: crazy close out at eron Nie Smith and nearly blocks 325 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: the shot and gets a stop. A few possessions later, 326 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: they straight up switch a ball screen hat ends up 327 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: on Halliburton, he gets a stop. They had some extended 328 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: stretches where they were able to get stops against the 329 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: Pacers in both their switching scheme and in their traditional 330 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: scheme using just chaotic rotations. So again, when the Knicks 331 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: hang onto the rope and they're very where he invested 332 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: mentally and physically, they can be really physically overwhelming for 333 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: this Pacers team and rotation, especially on the glass. A 334 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: lot of interior matchup hunting. It wasn't just cat going 335 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: at Siakam or Cat going at Turner. There was a 336 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: stretch there with og Andnobi went at Ben matherin a 337 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: couple times in a row, was just able to power 338 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: right through him and get to where he wanted to go. 339 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: And I mean a lot of this comes back to 340 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: what I said before the series about the Knicks, which 341 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: is like, there was a reason why most Knicks fans 342 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: I talked to after the Pistons series didn't really like 343 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: the team. Most Knicks fans I talked to throughout the 344 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: season were like, this isn't the same kind of like 345 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: character team that we saw last year when it was 346 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, Isaiah Hartenstein. It was a different team right 347 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: at that point in time. And the reason why was 348 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: there was frustration with the Knicks and their ability to 349 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: consistently execute on both ends the floor, their ability to 350 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: hang onto the rope mentally and physically, and in this game, 351 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: it's these brief stretches where they're just not leveraging their 352 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: gifts to the ability that they're capable of, and the 353 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Pacers will quite literally never let go of the rope. 354 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: And so there's just so many different things there. There 355 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: are so many different things there to learn from this 356 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: game if you're the Knicks, which is that like you 357 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: cannot let up even for a second in this matchup. 358 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: Let's get into some other notes around the series. So 359 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: a couple things the Knicks rebounding. I think you could 360 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: see a real perimeter size mismatch in this particular series. 361 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: So for instance, ogn Andob McHale bridges, even when you 362 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: get down to Josh Hart and Douce McBride, there is 363 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: like a size athleticism advantage in terms of just like 364 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: vertical ability on the perimeter for the Knicks. There's no 365 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 1: doubt that the Pacers have speed, and that that speed 366 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: can be a problem in different ways, mainly just the 367 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: pace that they're able to play with just furiously throughout 368 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: the entire game. But when it comes to some of 369 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: those battles in the vertical plane, the Knicks can win 370 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: a lot of those battles, and I thought that that 371 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: was pretty clearly evident in Game one. I did think 372 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: that Brunson was more capable to more capable of compromising 373 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: the defense and getting into the paint over the Lion's 374 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: share of the game than Haliburton was, even though we 375 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: can acknowledge that Halliburton was better in the overtime period. 376 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: I thought I thought a classic Caliburton sequence and that 377 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: overtime was that drop off pass to Nemhard cutting off 378 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: of the slot. Just a reminder with Halliburton that he's 379 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: going to score, but he will quite literally never miss 380 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: a read if the red is there. It's just like 381 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: programmed into his brain to play a certain way, and 382 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: he's going to hunt that read every single time he 383 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: gets that opportunity. But I did think that there was 384 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: a dribble penetration advantage for the Knicks. Mitchell Robinson, we 385 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: did not see any sort of I mean, obviously they 386 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: would grab him anytime he got right underneath the basket 387 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but we did not see a 388 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: hack of Robinson at any point in the game. Mitch 389 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: Robinson in twenty one minutes was even and was pretty 390 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: successful as just a physical monster, offensive, rebounding, defending that 391 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: vertical spacing like we saw in that lob off of 392 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: the Jalen Brunson two man game. A lot of stuff 393 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: for Rick Carlisle to look at, by the way, just 394 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: in general with their ball screen coverages in the job 395 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: that Thomas Bryant and Miles Turner did. Those guys were 396 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: getting absolutely fried everywhere on the floor tonight, and there 397 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: are some real problems there that they're going to have 398 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: to look at. Thomas Bryant was minus eleven Miles Turner 399 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: was minus three and you end up winning this game 400 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: in the small ball groups, though, I did think that 401 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Knicks had some success with that overall size, especially with 402 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: kat who was really given the business to Pascal Siakam 403 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: in those sequences. On the pacers front, I thought that 404 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: Siakam didn't do a good enough job punishing miss matches 405 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: throughout the game Normles Turner. That is a credit to 406 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: the Knicks. They battled really well in those situations. But 407 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: remember that was a huge part of this series last 408 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: year was Siakam attacking specifically Josh Hart, and he did 409 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: hit a little fade away and he drew a double 410 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: team on Josh Hart that led to a layup for 411 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: Andrew Nemhard. But there was not enough of that punishing 412 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: from Siakam from Turner against switches in the LA Turner 413 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: got multiple deep catches on mismatches that he wasn't able 414 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: to pay off, and so I think there's some opportunity there. 415 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: Nemhard was better in the second half, but I didn't 416 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: think he did much to impact the game offensively. Early, 417 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton kind of looked like he was off to 418 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: another one of those funky starts in this game, and 419 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: then right around halfway through the second quarter, he really 420 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: hit the Jets with his aggression and you could tell 421 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna get looks because of the drop coverage that 422 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: they're running with Karl Anthony Towns, and when he gets 423 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: switches against Carl Anthony Towns, he's gonna be able to 424 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: get to his three point shot. He's just gonna have 425 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: to be able to knock it down consistently. But really 426 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: really fascinating Game one. This is going to be a 427 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: really entertaining series. Every game, I feel like is gonna 428 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: come down to the wire, just with the relentless, never 429 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: ending pressure of the Pacers and with how gifted of 430 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: a crunch time scorer that Jalen Brunson is just an 431 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: instant classic here in Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals. 432 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to get further into it. 433 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high octane world 434 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: of sports, Vice Sports brings an exciting and diverse range 435 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: of programming that goes beyond the game, from action pack 436 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: live events to gripping behind the scenes documentaries to hard 437 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: hitting investigative pieces and in depth profiles of athletes, coaches, teams. 438 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: Vice Sports captures the raw energy, drama, and passion that 439 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: makes sports truly unforgettable. 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First question was was this more of 446 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 3: a Knicks choke job or a PACER's comebacks theft, theft 447 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: steel whatever. 448 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: So me, Jackson and Shane, we're debating this on the 449 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: UH on the zoom call before we went live, and 450 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: as is always the case, it's both. It's never as 451 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: simple as just one or the other. I'm really hesitant 452 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: to just call it a Knicks choke when we have 453 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: three completely different teams that have had this problem. Like, 454 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: at a certain point, I want to give the majority 455 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: of the credit to the Pacers just for their relentless, 456 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: never ending pressure. However, I thought that they this has 457 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: been a Knicks problem all year. Excuse me. They blew 458 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: the game open by keeping the ball moving around and 459 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: by playing through dues, through Kat through og Ananoby, and 460 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: they've had a tendency in crunch time to lean entirely 461 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: into Brunson, and Brunson has been amazing. Brunson's volume in 462 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: the clutch has been a made his efficiency has been 463 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: fine too, and he's won them a lot of games. 464 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: So I don't want to sit here and pretend like 465 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: it's it's like Brunson's doing something wrong necessarily, but there 466 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: are some realities to the fact that when you play 467 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: through one guy for extended stretches like that, the fatigue 468 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: can play a role. And I thought Brunson looked tired 469 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: in ot and I thought, especially over the final minutes 470 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: ot it affected his ability to get separation, And so 471 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. The miss free throws 472 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: are part of it. I feel like there's a certain 473 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: verve that Indiana plays with in transition during those late 474 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: game sequences that the Knicks probably do some damage to 475 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: by trying to stop the ball a little bit earlier 476 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: and prevent them from just knifing through them like hot 477 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: like a hot knife through butter like they do in 478 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: those sequences. But I want to give most of the 479 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: credits to Indiana. Man, Like they did it to a 480 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: sixty four win team in the last round, they did 481 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: it to Giannis and Tenna Koumpo in the round before that. 482 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: Like they just they are. They are unlike any team 483 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Jackson, I don't know. I don't know 484 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: any other way to put it. 485 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: I think that's a good transition to a different question 486 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: we got, which was, let me find it if the 487 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: Pacers don't win the title, do you think we will 488 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 3: look back on this playoff run, on these comebacks as 489 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 3: fluky comebacks or more of a sign of who the 490 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: Pacers are as sort of an identity. 491 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: I think fluky is disrespectful to the fact that they 492 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: won both series in five games. So I think that 493 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: I think that it's more complicated than just saying, you know, 494 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: they they're you know, voodooing their way to the to 495 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: the finish line. 496 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: Here. 497 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: Jackson and I were talking before, like kind of in 498 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: the first you know, it was either in the first 499 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: quarter or the second quarter. But I don't think the 500 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: Pacers can beat Oklahoma City. I think Oklahoma City matches 501 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: up extremely well with both of these teams because they're 502 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: both teams that rely heavily on guard shot creation, and 503 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: the Thunder just have a never ending line of elite 504 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: defensive guards that can make life hell for guys like that. So, 505 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, Like, if let me reapproach 506 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: the question like this, if if the Pacers beat the Thunder, 507 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: it won't be fluky, It'll be because they beat him 508 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: at basketball. So like, I'm not gonna try to undercut 509 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: anything they accomplished at this point they beat. I thought 510 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: that Cavs team was so good. I thought they had 511 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: a legitimate chance to beat Boston towards the end of 512 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: the season with how they were shooting the ball against Miami. 513 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: So like, I think this is I'm a big believer 514 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: in this Pacers team. I picked them to win this series. 515 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: I think that they're just better than they were last year. 516 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: I think Caliburton's one of the more underrated stars in 517 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: the league. I like that even goes beyond the disrespect 518 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: from his peers. I think even just in the media, 519 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: people don't quite appreciate his advantage creation and the job 520 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: that he does to grease the wheels of an elite offense. 521 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: I think the Pacers are really good man. 522 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: I agree. Next question seeing how both Julius Randall and 523 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns are playing in the conference finals, were 524 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 3: only one game into the Conference finals. The still looking 525 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 3: back on the trade, how do you sort of feel 526 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: about it from both teams standpoint? 527 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: Oh Man, this is an interesting question. I think it's 528 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a mixed results kind of 529 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: conversation on the Knicks front, because Karl Anthony Towns has 530 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: had very high highs in this playoff run, but he's 531 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: also had very low lows. I thought, for the most 532 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: part tonight he was pretty good, So I don't want 533 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: to I don't want to like disparage him specifically tonight. 534 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: I think overall, the totality of the offseason worked out 535 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: well in the sense that, like, if you make those 536 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: sorts of moves, the McHale Bridges move and the Cat move, 537 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: you gotta make the conference finals. You've got to beat 538 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: a Boston in order to make that sort of trade 539 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: worth it. And I think the McHale Bridges deal in 540 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: particular was very uneven in the sense that he was 541 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: not very good in the regular season compared to what 542 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: he was capable of. But I think he's been great 543 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: defensively in the postseason, and I think overall the Josh Hart, McHale, 544 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: Bridges og and an Obi trio between Brunson and Cat 545 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: has made up for a lot of their defensive deficiencies, 546 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: and I think Kat brings a lot of positives. I 547 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: also think there are some realities to the fit with 548 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: Julius Randall, and like how that would have been clunky 549 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: to have Julius on this particular team. So, I mean, 550 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: you could argue that not having a Dante DiVincenzo is 551 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: a depth piece is probably the most painful part of 552 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: that deal because Cat has brought I would argue, let 553 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: me spit this back to you Jackson before we talk 554 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about the Minnesota side of it. Do 555 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: you think that Cat on the Knicks, forget about the trade. 556 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that Cat on the Knicks is a 557 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: better fit than Julius Randall on these Knicks. 558 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: I do. 559 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: I think so too. 560 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: And I think Julius Randall is a better fit on 561 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: the Timberwolves just in a vacuum than Karl Anthony Towns is. 562 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: So in that sense, I think both teams made a 563 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: move that was you know, at least well in ten. 564 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, I think the Timberwolf side of 565 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: this deal was a slam dunk home run, and like 566 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: I talked about this before the season, I said, if 567 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: Randall goes with Randall going to Minnesota, I didn't like 568 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: the deal, but I said there was an obvious upside. 569 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: The obvious upside is Julius Randall is a better high post, 570 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: low post shot creator than Karl Anthony Towns. He flat 571 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: out is, and he's also a better defensive player. But 572 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: that I think has been more of a revelation. Didn't 573 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: I didn't think Julius had that reputation before this year. 574 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: But Julius is flat out a better high post, low 575 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: post shot creator, and specifically within what Minnesota has needed 576 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: in this postseason run, that has been immensely valuable to them. 577 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: So like that's been a home run, Dante in the 578 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: depth has been a home run. There was a range 579 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: of outcomes for the Julius Randall deal on the Minnesota front, 580 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: and it has skewed heavily towards the high range of 581 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: those outcomes. So it's like a slam dunk for Minnesota. 582 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a little more complicated on the Knicks front, 583 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: But as we mentioned earlier, I think Pad is just 584 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: a natural fit that Julius isn't in this system, So 585 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: it might just be a rare example of a trade 586 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: that kind of worked for both teams. Yeah, I think 587 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with all that there's really quickly. 588 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: There's one other thing that's kind of interesting. I see 589 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: these stretches kind of like this stretch when Mitchell Robinson 590 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: was dominating in that late first quarter. I do think 591 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: there's a version of this team that has a more 592 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: defensive center, like an athlete center instead of cat that 593 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 1: that could potentially reach higher highs than this team. And 594 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: I think that's the question they're gonna have to ask 595 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: themselves this summer, depending on what happens in the next 596 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: four weeks. 597 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. Next question, Jason, do you 598 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: think that the Knicks can last playing at this pace 599 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: with the Pacers over the course of the series, especially 600 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: considering the minute totals that those guys play do the Pacers? 601 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: Guys, here's the thing, they can last, but they can't 602 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: afford to lose games like this. I mean, like tonight, 603 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: like you play well enough to be because here's the thing, guys, 604 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: like the Pacers didn't play as well as they were 605 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: capable of during the majority of this game. Siakam was 606 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: pretty bad. Nemhard was pretty bad. There was Uh. Turner 607 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: was good to start the game on offense, but was 608 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: brutal in a bunch of other ways. Uh, they didn't 609 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: get a ton of scoring pop off their bench the 610 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: way they usually do. Like Ben Mathern has been their 611 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: highest scoring player per minute in this postseason run. He 612 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: had nine points and twenty one minutes. Like, there were 613 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: a lot of things that didn't go their way. You 614 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: gotta win that game, and that's where it gets discouraging. 615 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: That said, the difference in the pace is like obvious 616 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: just looking at the scoreboard. So they scored one hundred 617 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: and thirty five points tonight. They scored one nineteen in 618 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: Game five six against Boston, one oh two in Game five, 619 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: one twenty one in Game four, uh ninety three in 620 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: Game three, ninety one in Game two, one oh eight 621 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: in Game one. Like their score. They haven't scored over 622 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one points in any playoff game 623 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 1: except for Game one against the Pistons. So this is 624 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: now we're all the way up at one thirty eight. 625 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: So there's like a clear like just sheer number of 626 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: possessions type of dynamic at play. As a matter of fact, 627 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to pull up the specific number of possessions. 628 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: So the Knicks had one hundred and twenty seven possessions tonight, 629 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: trim off the fourteen in overtime, that's one fourteen. And 630 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: if we just pull like a random I'm just gonna 631 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: pull like one of the Celtics wins, like Game four 632 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: against Boston. That game they had one hundred and four possessions, 633 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: so it's ten additional possessions. So it's like it's more, 634 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: but it's not dramatically so much more that it should 635 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: cause that much of a problem. The main thing to 636 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: me is just you can't afford like to me, in 637 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: playoff series, there's so much weirdness anyway, Like you're gonna 638 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: go on the road to Indiana. You could have a 639 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: game where Obi Tappen has twenty points. You could go 640 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: and Ben Mathern could have twenty five points. Like there 641 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: are already these kind of weird variables in a playoff series. 642 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 1: You can't afford to lose the game where you looked 643 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: like the better team for the majority of the game. 644 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: As a Celtics fan, I know that last question before 645 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: we go over to playback. If it's thunder Pacers in 646 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: the finals, do you think teams will start putting depth 647 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 3: and specifically speed depth as a priority for roster. 648 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that, you know, I feel like that's 649 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: been the story of this entire season, dating back to 650 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: those of you guys who've been listening to the show 651 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: for a while. You think back to the conversations we 652 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: were having in October November. What was the number one buzzword? 653 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: I was thrown around perimeter speed, perimeter speed, talked about 654 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: it with Golden State. I was like, Golden State is 655 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: one secondary shot creator away from being good because they're 656 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: loaded up with simitter speed. Houston loaded up to perimeter speed, 657 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City perimeter speed. Like it just because of the 658 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: game being more in transition, because of the game being 659 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: played more in rotation, because of the long rebounds that 660 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,959 Speaker 1: are coming off of these threes. Everything is a foot race, 661 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: and it's just turning into a situation where I think 662 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: you've got to have a certain amount of speed and 663 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: a certain amount of depth just to be able to 664 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: handle the grueling realities of the NBA Playoffs. I mean, 665 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: even if we dig into it further, like there's a 666 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: more of attrition aspect to all of this. Indiana has 667 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: outlasted teams that have dealt with injuries now multiple playoff 668 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: runs in a row, between the you know, Darius Garland 669 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: injury last in the last round, Evan Mobley missed a 670 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: game in the last round last year, the Donovan Mitchell injury, 671 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: the Yannis injury, the Dame injury. This year, Oklahoma City 672 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: even just withstanding a Job Moran injury, was standing a 673 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon injury, that the Michael Porter junior injury, like 674 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: the thunder and the Pacers look healthier than everybody. And 675 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: it's because they're super deep. As I mentioned before the series. 676 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 1: There before tonight, and I'm not sure if tonight's numbers 677 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: threw it off at all, there wasn't a single Pacer 678 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: averaging over thirty five minutes per game like they're just 679 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 1: they're able to dig deep into their bench and get 680 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: production and keep everyone's minutes. Now, I think that's a 681 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: I think that's a huge part of their ability to 682 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: survive these deep playffrons and pulling up the minutes per 683 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: game stats in the postseason real quick for the Thunder. 684 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: So for the Thunder, Shay is the only player playing 685 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: over thirty five minutes per game, thirty six point eight minutes. 686 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: Ja Dub's at thirty five. Every other Thunder player aside 687 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: from Shay and Jay Dubb, is playing less than thirty 688 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: minutes per game in this postseason, less than thirty. They're 689 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: all playing about half the game. Chet twenty nine point eight, 690 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Lou Dort twenty six point eight, Isaiah Hartenstein twenty five 691 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: point three. This is all half the game. They're playing 692 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: half a playoff game. Meanwhile, everyone else is like, like 693 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: JJ Redicks, Like we're playing everybody all twenty four minutes 694 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: in the second half. Tom Thibodeau is playing his guys 695 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: nassive minutes. I think there are some realities to the 696 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: way that that depth is allowing them to survive the 697 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: war of attrition in the postseason. All right, guys, that's 698 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: all we have for tonight on YouTube. At least, we're 699 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: about to head over to playback so again that's playback 700 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: dot tv slash oops tonight, head over there right now. 701 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: We'll hang out for another forty five minutes or so, 702 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: just you know, taking callers talking about the game, getting 703 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: into some of the footage. Again, As always, as sincerely 704 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for supporting the show. We will be 705 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: having a film session tomorrow morning, so come back to 706 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: YouTube tomorrow early, like right around noon ish, and we 707 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: will have a film breakdown from Game one of the 708 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals. I'll see you guys in playback. Otherwise 709 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys tomorrow morning. What's up guys. As always, 710 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for listening to and supporting OOPS tonight. 711 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: They would actually be really helpful for us if you 712 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: guys would take a second and leave a rating and 713 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: a review. As always, I appreciate you guys supporting us, 714 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: but if you could take a minute to do that, 715 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. The volume 716 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: M