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Speaker 4: Thank you guys for joining us this evening on After

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Speaker 4: Ours with Alex Eyin right here in Real America's voice,

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Speaker 4: and this is round two with the base pastor. You

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Speaker 4: He's come on the scene like a force of nature,

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Speaker 4: Well, we did round one and I was happy you

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Speaker 3: redeem good people. He redeems sinners, and I'm one of them.

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Speaker 3: But you have to actually admit that you're a sinner.

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Speaker 3: And so yes, God can redeem. The person who was

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Speaker 3: molested as a child, who says I am this way,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be this way. I know that

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Speaker 3: this is against what God desires for me.

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Speaker 2: Jesus help. Of course I will even gay conversion. Well,

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Speaker 2: they say, you know, I'm a pastor. Of course I know.

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Speaker 2: But you know how that is a hot talk I do.

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Speaker 3: I do. It's very hot, so stupid. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: They're converting our heterosexual children to be faced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, so they can turn them gay straight if.

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Speaker 1: You get to convert, it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: I really kind of. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm raising my voice because we can turn them gay,

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Speaker 4: why can't we turn them back straight?

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Speaker 2: It kind of makes sense. If you can go one way,

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Speaker 2: why can't it go the other?

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: It is a controversial subject, but I'm telling you I

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Speaker 4: I you know, have gay family members, I know be

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Speaker 4: literally gay. I don't hate people that they're gay, but

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Speaker 4: I think now when they put pride flags in classrooms,

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Speaker 4: when a pride flag only indicates your sexual preference, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't make sense to me that we're celebrating people's sexual

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Speaker 4: preferences in a school.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's what.

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Speaker 4: We've gotten to, where it's not just being okay with

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Speaker 4: this LGBTQ mafia and it's just ridiculous, and it's it's

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Speaker 4: evil in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: And real quick in the origin. Like when an individuals homosexual,

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Speaker 3: I think that there's the molestation cases where they were

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Speaker 3: sexually abused as a child and it causes them to

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Speaker 3: be confused and developed disordered desires and all these kinds

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Speaker 3: of things. That's one case, but that's not everybody. Another

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Speaker 3: case is that sind there is a progression to sin.

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Speaker 3: You don't just wake up one day and say, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I think I'll be a serial killer. That's

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Speaker 3: not the way sin works. The Book of James actually

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Speaker 3: says that sin when fully conceived gives or i'm sorry, desires,

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Speaker 3: wicked desires when fully conceived, gives birth to sin, and sin,

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Speaker 3: when fully grown, brings forth death. So there's actually a

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Speaker 3: progression to sin. So I've talked to homosexuals who some

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Speaker 3: of them their testimonies my dad did terrible things to me.

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Speaker 3: Some of their testimony is I loved porn. I looked

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Speaker 3: at it all the time, I slept with like one

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Speaker 3: hundred or five hundred or a thousand women. Eventually it

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Speaker 3: just didn't do it for me anymore, and I wanted

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Speaker 3: to try something else, you know, I had a homosexual

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Speaker 3: Tell me, he said, Joel, you know what it's like

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Speaker 3: to be pleased. Nobody knows how to please a man

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Speaker 3: more than a man. So that's just ranked perversion, right,

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Speaker 3: And I appreciate he was just willing to be honest

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Speaker 3: and call it what it was. He was like, no,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't pretty though, I yeah, a super gay. He

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Speaker 3: was like, I wasn't abused. I just I'm a sexual deviant.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: And then the third option is, well, what about those

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Speaker 3: who are born gay? People get into the debate. Christians

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Speaker 3: will say, you can't be born gay. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: The whole impetus of the Christian Gospel is that you

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Speaker 3: must be born again. All of us are born as

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Speaker 3: sinners in some capacities. Some people have a propensity towards greed.

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Speaker 3: Some people have a propensity towards pride. The idea that

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Speaker 3: some people might be born with a propensity towards disordered

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Speaker 3: desires is not beyond the pale. But the impetus of

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Speaker 3: the Gospel remains the same for all of them. You

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Speaker 3: must be born again. The fact that you might be

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Speaker 3: able to root an argument in nature doesn't make it moral,

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Speaker 3: because the Christian faith. The Christian life is not the

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Speaker 3: natural life, but the supernatural life. And even for the

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Speaker 3: person who might have naturally been born gay, which is

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Speaker 3: a very simplistic way of describing it, I think that

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Speaker 3: even that in the true case number one, it's not

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Speaker 3: supernatural and it's not being born again, they still need

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Speaker 3: to repent and fallow christ. Number two, if they were

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Speaker 3: born that way according to the flesh, even that, not

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Speaker 3: only is it not supernatural, I don't even think it's natural.

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Speaker 3: I think if they were born that way, it's because

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Speaker 3: of hormones and endorphins and chemical abaritions and all this thing.

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Speaker 3: Because because Alex Jones was right, and birth controlled down

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Speaker 3: the pipes, and it's turning not just the frogs gay,

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Speaker 3: it's turning people gay.

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Speaker 4: You're right, And you know what, I've always thought that

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Speaker 4: lesbians are fake. There's actually viral clip where these lesbians

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Speaker 4: are on a podcast and they were mad because of

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Speaker 4: the girls said, every time I get drunk, I end

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Speaker 4: up sleeping with a guy. So it's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's just being a lesbian. Now, I think being a

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Speaker 4: gay guy is real.

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Speaker 3: But did you know they found a cure. It's a

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Speaker 3: lesbianism is what it's called alcoholic. No, it's called ozimpic.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, why Why is it.

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Speaker 3: Because all lesbians are ugly fat chicks?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I want to say, and that does make sense.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them are. They look like WNBA players

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Speaker 2: and they're not getting any morefts.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, we're getting into some even more spicier topics.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about the Dead Sea scrolls and

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Speaker 4: some of the I guess gnostic theological viewpoints that whether

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Speaker 4: Joel agrees on him or not, but I want to

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Speaker 4: get his opinion. That's coming up after the break.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to After Hours, Unreal America's boys.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys for joining us right here in Real

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Speaker 4: America's voice for watching After Hours with Alex Stein. And

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Speaker 4: we have an incredible guest. He is a awesome pastor

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Speaker 4: controversial one, but I honestly don't think anything he.

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Speaker 2: Said is really too crazy. So Joel, thank you for

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Speaker 2: joining us.

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Speaker 4: I just want to say I've learned a lot from

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Speaker 4: these past two episodes.

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Speaker 2: I really have, and I really appreciate you because you

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Speaker 2: call it like you see it.

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Speaker 4: But I do want to talk a little bit about

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Speaker 4: the Bible that we have, there's twenty seven books in

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Speaker 4: the Bible, but really there's other books in the Bible

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Speaker 4: that don't talk about what is the Book of James,

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Speaker 4: that's Jesus brother, and the Book of Enoch. So can

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Speaker 4: you tell us is there more to the Bible.

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Speaker 2: That we need to know? Are are they hiding some

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Speaker 2: of the good stuff from us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't think they're hiding anything. Consensus matters. And

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Speaker 3: so you know, throughout church history two thousand years now

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Speaker 3: since the finished work of Christ, you've got two thousand

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Speaker 3: years of history of church councils and all agreeing upon,

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Speaker 3: you know, books of the Bible that are in the canon.

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Speaker 3: And so the only real difference is between Protestants and Catholics.

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Speaker 3: So Protestants have sixty six books of the Bible, including

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Speaker 3: the Old Testament and the New and Catholics have like

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Speaker 3: seven extra books. But the Book of Enoch is one

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Speaker 3: of those books that it's not in the Bible. Now

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Speaker 3: there's actually like the first book of Enoch and then

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Speaker 3: the second.

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Speaker 4: Isn't Enoch the only person that didn't die? He just

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Speaker 4: got to gostrated to heaven.

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Speaker 2: That's him and a life.

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Speaker 3: So Enoch Genesis says he walked with God and was

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Speaker 3: no more that God took him, and so, as far

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Speaker 3: as we can tell from scripture, Enoch didn't die, but

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Speaker 3: he actually just was taken by the Lord up into heaven. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I think that it's highly contested the Second Book

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Speaker 3: of Enoch and third whether or not those were actually

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Speaker 3: written by Enoch. The first book could have been written

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Speaker 3: by Enoch. I'm inclined to think that it was, and

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Speaker 3: it's actually referenced. This is something that a lot of

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Speaker 3: Christians don't they're not aware of, but the Book of Jude,

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Speaker 3: which is in the canon of Scripture, actually refers to

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Speaker 3: Enoch's first book and his writing. So the way I

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Speaker 3: see it is, I don't think that the Church Father

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Speaker 3: has made a mistake. So I wouldn't look at the

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Speaker 3: Book of Enoch as being fully inerrant and inspired by God,

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Speaker 3: infallible without air. But I would look at the Book

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Speaker 3: of Enoch as the first book, as being something that

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Speaker 3: is generally reliable and generally true, to the point that

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Speaker 3: you have apostles in the New Testament under the inspiration

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Speaker 3: of the Spirit writing books that are in the Canada

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Speaker 3: Scripture and referencing it as though it's a reliable source.

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Speaker 3: So I think the First Book of Enoch is fair game.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't hold it to the same level of authority

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Speaker 3: as Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, but I also want

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Speaker 3: to demonize it, whereas like the Gospel of Thomas is

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Speaker 3: a Gnostic gospel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I starting to cut you off with what is narcissism?

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Speaker 2: How does that fit into all this?

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Speaker 4: Because you know, I'm saying this in the most simplistic

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Speaker 4: way because I'm not a Gnostic gospel expert. But the

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Speaker 4: fact that there's Christian narcissism that supposeially when you get

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Speaker 4: to the thirty third degree of Freemasonry, and this is

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Speaker 4: where I learned it is that they actually tell you

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Speaker 4: a different story and that Jesus was sent here by

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Speaker 4: the monad to warn us about the material world, and

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Speaker 4: that that's who you know, really there's one ruler, and

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Speaker 4: that's why the God of the Old Testament is different

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Speaker 4: than Jesus, I guess the New God.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of you know.

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Speaker 3: So Freemasons, and I think you know that Freemasons are heretics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And so gnoscissism is one of the most

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Speaker 3: ancient Christian heresies. Narcissism in a nutshell is the idea

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Speaker 3: meaningless or of little to no value, but it's actually

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Speaker 3: inherently evil and wicked, that it's corrupt by nature and irredeemable.

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Speaker 3: But the spiritual, both the spiritual realm and in the

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Speaker 3: case of individual human beings, the soul is you know,

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Speaker 3: it's inherently pure and good. And so the Christian Gnostics

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Speaker 3: have always believed, and you find even First John in

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Speaker 3: heretical groups that he's explicitly writing against. And so they

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Speaker 3: had this view of the Gnostics, early Gnostics and still

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Speaker 3: to this day, that the body was corrupt. The flesh,

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Speaker 3: in trapping the soul. And so you know, suffering and

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Speaker 3: death was actually the savior. Wasn't really Jesus at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day. The savior was actually death because

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Speaker 3: death would erode the prison of the flesh and set

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Speaker 3: your soul free to transcend and attain to its You

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Speaker 3: know its full purity and potential. And the reality is,

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Speaker 3: that's not what the Christian religion actually teaches. So when

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Speaker 3: God creates the world each of these six days of creation,

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Speaker 3: he looks and says it is good. It is good.

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Speaker 3: And so as Christians, we don't want to be mere

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Speaker 3: materialist where we idolize and worship the created order over

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Speaker 3: and above the Creator, who is to be forever praise.

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Speaker 3: That's what Romans want is about. They exchanged, you know,

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Speaker 3: true worship of the Creator for worshiping the creature instead.

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Speaker 3: So that's idolatry, that elevates the material above the spiritual,

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Speaker 3: and that's wrong. But gnosticism commits the same error, but

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Speaker 3: in the opposite direction. Gnarcissism denies the innate goodness that

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Speaker 3: God declared over the created order. It also would deny

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Speaker 3: what the Bible teaches about the final physical resurrection. A

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Speaker 3: lot of Christians we forget this. Saint Paul, he said

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Speaker 3: in scripture that to be absent of the body is

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Speaker 3: to be present with the Lord. Yes and amen, that

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Speaker 3: when a Christian dies, that their soul immediately is now

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Speaker 3: in the presence of God in heaven. But that's not

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Speaker 3: actually where the story ends. Eventually, there's a culmination. The

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Speaker 3: Bible speaks of this a future culmination to all of

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Speaker 3: human history where Christ Jesus returns, a physical final return

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Speaker 3: of Jesus Christ and resurrects our bodies, and our soul

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Speaker 3: then would actually be rejoined with our now glorified, resurrected body.

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Speaker 3: So the temporal existence for the existence for the Christian

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Speaker 3: upon death is a soul existence in the presence of

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Speaker 3: the Lord. But the final and eternal existence for Christians

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Speaker 3: is a bodily existence. And this body, it's not another body,

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Speaker 3: it's this body made new, just as Christ was bodily resurrected.

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Speaker 3: The Bible says he was resurrected as a first fruits

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Speaker 3: of what we two who are in Christ Jesus can expect.

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Speaker 3: So we can't totally demonize the material, physical world, because

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Speaker 3: God actually sees our bodies as something that still maintains

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Speaker 3: some inherent goodness that he made, he created and will

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Speaker 3: be redeemed and glorified and resurrected, and we will actually

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Speaker 3: have a physical, physical, literal material existence with the Lord forever.

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Speaker 3: And that's good. And so we don't want to throw

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Speaker 3: the baby out with.

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Speaker 4: The bathba agnosticism does. So now I got to ask

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Speaker 4: you this, and I've debated this. I believe that it

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Speaker 4: takes faith and works to get into heaven. But am

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Speaker 4: am I a libtard for thinking that? What is your

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Speaker 4: opinion on faith first works?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: I think here's what.

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Speaker 4: He's the guy that died next to Jesus on the cross.

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Speaker 4: He got in right, so he didn't have to do

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Speaker 4: any work. But I feel like if you died with

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Speaker 4: Jesus that might.

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Speaker 3: I would say, even the case of a thief on

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Speaker 3: the cross who died next to Christ, he did actually

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Speaker 3: have good works. And so this is the way that

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Speaker 3: I would frame it. Theologically, we are saved by faith alone,

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Speaker 3: but faith, true faith, living faith that saves is never alone.

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Speaker 3: Faith will always be evidenced by good works. That if

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Speaker 3: we really trust in Jesus, if any man trust in Christ,

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Speaker 3: he is a new creation. And God has ordained good

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Speaker 3: works ahead of time that his people should walk in them.

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Speaker 3: So my point is that true living faith saves us,

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Speaker 3: but true living faith also causes us to do good works.

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Speaker 3: And even in the case of the thief who is

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Speaker 3: being crucified on the cross next to Jesus, this man

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Speaker 3: he didn't have time to be baptized. He didn't have

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Speaker 3: time to go and live a life of helping old

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Speaker 3: ladies cross the street, you know, or be a good

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Speaker 3: husband and good father these kinds of things, or give

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Speaker 3: money to the church. He didn't do any of those things.

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Speaker 3: But he did actually have one good work, and it's

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Speaker 3: the quintessential good work. What he did was God granted

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Speaker 3: him faith, a new heart, regeneration, and then with that

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Speaker 3: faith he confessed that Jesus is Lord, and he actually

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Speaker 3: defended Christ. He was an apologist, right. The other thief

701
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Speaker 3: on the cross is, hey, he's mocking Jesus. If you're

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Speaker 3: really God, then save yourself and save us also. And

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Speaker 3: then he says, shut your mouth, how dare you speak

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Speaker 3: to We deserve as criminals to be crucified. But this

705
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Speaker 3: man is an innocent man who has done no wrong. Jesus, please, Lord,

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Speaker 3: remember me when you come into my kingdom. And Jesus says,

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Speaker 3: I tell you the truth today, you will be with

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Speaker 3: me in paradise. And so there's a sense in which

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Speaker 3: he was saved by faith alone. That's true, but he

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Speaker 3: also even with a few minutes or hours that he

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Speaker 3: had left in his life, he was doing good works,

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Speaker 3: because true saving faith will always be evidenced by good works.

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Speaker 4: Wow, you know, I'm learning a lot, and I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, you have all these answers, and I know

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Speaker 4: that you're not you know, you're not all knowing you No,

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Speaker 4: of course not God.

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Speaker 2: But I guess what motive.

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Speaker 3: I'm the top tard in the Lord's all you are?

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Speaker 2: You are?

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Speaker 3: I'm retarded, you know, but I'm God's retarded.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a good person to defend now now,

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Speaker 4: And I guess the shortest manner that you can.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think personally.

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Speaker 4: That society and we got to go to break So

725
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Speaker 4: this is kind of a bad question asked, So maybe

726
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Speaker 4: we can answer it after the breakthrough. Why do they

727
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Speaker 4: hide the existence of God? Why is that so important

728
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Speaker 4: in your opinion on them telling us that we live

729
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Speaker 4: in a world that was created by big rock smashing together?

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Speaker 3: Right? I mean even the scientists do this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's the Big Bang, it's you know, macro evolutional. But

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Speaker 3: here's what's so funny. They'll look at sediments of rock

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Speaker 3: and different layers of the earth and say, look, this

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Speaker 3: was a little bit of water stream over millions and

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Speaker 3: millions of years, and it's like, so you're telling me

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Speaker 3: that a little bit of water with a lot of

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Speaker 3: bit of time made the earth look like this. What

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Speaker 3: if it was a lot of bit of water, like

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Speaker 3: a global flood with a little bit of time, would

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Speaker 3: it have the same effect. We know that it's true.

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Speaker 3: Romans One tells us that the reason why all men

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Speaker 3: are without an excuse is because God has demonstrated his

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Speaker 3: eternal power and divine nature by what he has made.

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Speaker 3: The creation itself testifies that there is a creator and

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Speaker 3: that he's made all these things. And I think the

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Speaker 3: reason why the secular liberalism and all this tries to

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Speaker 3: because then man gets to be God, you know, then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Well, guys, we've got one more segment with the base Pastor.

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Speaker 4: He is an awesome guy. I enjoy listening and learning,

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Speaker 4: We have a country that has a litany of domestic issues,

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Speaker 4: and for some reason, we're going to reallocate our resources

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Speaker 4: policy issue that most people don't even care about or

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Speaker 4: will ever go to, and that most people will never

795
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Speaker 4: even go to the Middle East. So why is my

796
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Speaker 4: tax dollars going to fight a war in the Middle East?

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Speaker 4: And then you're gonna tell me, oh, it's for your protection.

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Speaker 4: But they don't have bombs that can.

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Speaker 1: Go this far.

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Speaker 4: So it's like even if they developed the nuclear head,

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Speaker 4: they don't have an actual device to send it over

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Speaker 4: to America.

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Speaker 3: So Matt Gates said that like a year ago, and

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Speaker 3: he was right, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 4: Just so ludicrous because they say we've been at a

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Speaker 4: war with him for forty seven years.

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Speaker 2: So dumb we have not. Yes, they've probably sponsored some state,

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Speaker 2: you know, some terrorists, but we have too.

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Speaker 4: We created the Mujai I d and that fought a

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Speaker 4: war with Russia, So we've sponsored some terrorists. So it

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Speaker 4: just seems a little hypocritical when we say we've been

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Speaker 4: in a war with thin for forty seven years, yet they've

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Speaker 4: never bombed America.

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Speaker 2: I've never been as.

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Speaker 3: Hypocritical when it's like, well, we got to fight them

816
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Speaker 3: because they chant death to America.

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Speaker 2: I believe in the First Amendment. They want to say that,

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Speaker 2: they can say that.

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Speaker 3: But what I was going to point out is like, okay,

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Speaker 3: they chant, you know, some of them chant death to America.

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Speaker 3: But the president of our country just recently said I'm

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Speaker 3: going to blow up an entire civilization and send them

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Speaker 3: to the Stone Age. So our president says it with

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Speaker 3: troops by the ready. They have random people say so

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Speaker 3: when they say it, they're serious, and that somehow merits

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Speaker 3: us going and fighting. But when our president says it, it's, well,

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Speaker 3: it's just a Trump bluff, you know. Forty chest like that.

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Speaker 3: The hardest thing I think about being Magga these days

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Speaker 3: is having to tell your dad you're gay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now no.

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Speaker 4: Actually that brings me to my last question that I

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Speaker 4: want to ask him. Donald Trump famously said that he's

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Speaker 4: not going to get into heaven. Do you think Trump's

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Speaker 4: going to get into heaven?

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Speaker 2: I hope he gets in.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I absolutely hope he gets in. And I

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Speaker 3: want everyone to go to heaven. I don't want anybody

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Speaker 3: to go to hell. The scripture even says that God

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Speaker 3: takes he punishes the wicked, but it says that he

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Speaker 3: takes no delight in the judgment of the wicked. And

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Speaker 3: so I want Trump to go to heaven. But if

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Speaker 3: you're asking me right now, if Trump was to die

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Speaker 3: right now, should we have any type of assurance that

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Speaker 3: Trump would actually be in Heaven with Christ. And I

845
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Speaker 3: think the answer is no, because by his own admission,

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Speaker 3: he said a number of times, he's made it blatantly

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Speaker 3: obvious by his own rhetoric that he doesn't know what

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Speaker 3: Christianity really is, he doesn't know what salvation really means.

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Speaker 3: He's he's made statements like, you know, I haven't really

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Speaker 3: repented for anything. I'd rather not say I'm sorry. I'd

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Speaker 3: rather just never do anything wrong. You know, or like,

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Speaker 3: or I don't really need forgiveness. I'd rather just be right,

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Speaker 3: you know, or like or there's times where he'll say, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I hope I've been good enough to get to heaven,

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00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: Like it's just a matter of doing nice things. But

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Speaker 3: what you don't see Trump saying is all people, including myself,

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Speaker 3: are sinners in need of salvation that comes from Christ alone.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard that from Trump.

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Speaker 4: What about Joe Biden. I think Joe Biden's are pretty

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Speaker 4: strict's Catholic. Do you think he has a chance of

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Speaker 4: getting in over Trump.

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Speaker 3: Well, see, so in the case of Trump, Jesus actually

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Speaker 3: tells the parable of you know, two brothers and their

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Speaker 3: their father asks them to come and work in the vineyard,

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Speaker 3: and you know, one of the sons he says, I

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Speaker 3: can't do it. I'm too busy, you know. But then

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Speaker 3: he ends up showing up, and then the other son says,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'll be their dad, you can count on me,

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Speaker 3: and then he doesn't show up at all. When I

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Speaker 3: think of you know, Trump and Biden, Trump has done

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Speaker 3: some good things. Yeah, I've voted for him.

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Speaker 4: I've voted for Trump. I supported him for every time

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Speaker 4: he's ran for president.

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Speaker 3: So Trump has done a lot of good things, overturning

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Speaker 3: Roe versus way, you know, by appointing the Supreme Court justices.

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Speaker 3: Trump has done some good things, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: that he believes in Jesus. I just I don't think

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Speaker 3: he does. Whereas Biden has had some of the right rhetoric.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's a practicing Catholic and goes to Mass

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Speaker 3: every Sundays, those things, But in terms of what he's done,

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Speaker 3: he's done things again and again that are absolutely wicked.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Biden is one of the most pro abortion presidents, which.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't make sense. But couldn't he repent though, couldn't he?

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Speaker 4: I mean, he could repent.

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Speaker 3: He could repent absolutely, But that's see. Part of the

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Speaker 3: problem is the church, whether you're Protestant or the Catholic

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Speaker 3: Church should have excommunicated Joe Biden. But here's the reality.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of Catholic friends and a lot

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Speaker 3: of Catholic show and I'm grateful for my Catholic friends

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Speaker 3: and a lot of the good that they do and

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Speaker 3: the things that we share in common. But although it's

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Speaker 3: true Protestants have fractured into a million different denominations. But

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Speaker 3: on the Catholic side, one of the reasons young men

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Speaker 3: are turning to Catholicism is because it feels traditional, It

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Speaker 3: feels old, tried, true, those kinds of things. They want

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Speaker 3: something that's rooted, that's historic. But another reason that based

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Speaker 3: right right wing young men are turning to Catholicism is

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Speaker 3: because they instinctively know that Catholics will never actually practice

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Speaker 3: church discipline like ever. So you can be a sitting

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Speaker 3: president pushing for the murder of babies in the mother's womb,

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Speaker 3: and you can show up to a Catholic church and

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Speaker 3: receive the Eucharist. So I just feel like I think

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Speaker 3: Protestants are a joke, but I've got to be honest

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Speaker 3: and say Catholics are a joke too.

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Speaker 2: Well, we only got the show's almost over.

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Speaker 4: We got to sit and I am going on your

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Speaker 4: show very soon where we can even dive deeper into

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Speaker 4: these topics. But last question I did want to ask,

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Speaker 4: and I wrote it here, and I forgot to ask you.

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Speaker 4: You talked about Protestants, she talked about Catholics. You know,

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Speaker 4: I would argue.

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Speaker 2: That some of the most successful people that.

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Speaker 4: I know come from a very religion Mormons, but you

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Speaker 4: know they are oftentimes they go on the mission trip.

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Speaker 2: They're usually dialed in. They're very smart.

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Speaker 4: So I would just say if you just look at

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Speaker 4: the religion, it creates good human beings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Mormonism is a Christian heresy. There are Mormons

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Speaker 3: are some of the sweetest people you know to walk

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Speaker 3: planet Earth.

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Speaker 2: They don't drink. You know, they're pretty good people.

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Speaker 3: Like for me, like I would rather have Mormon neighbors. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if I'm picking a neighborhood, I would rather live with

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Speaker 3: Mormons than I would Catholications.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt they would be sacrificing chickens.

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Speaker 3: I think my pets would be safe for all those

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Speaker 3: kinds of things. So yes, that said, I know this

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Speaker 3: is not popular, but you look at Mormonism, I don't

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Speaker 3: think when we were looking at causalities, I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's because of the doctrines of Mormonism that is produced

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Speaker 3: this high trust society. Look at Mormonism and let's take

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Speaker 3: the religion aside, the doctrine's theology, and look at just

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Speaker 3: the demographics.

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Speaker 1: Mormonism is all white people.

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Speaker 3: It's white people, it's white people.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Joel Webbin said it best.

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Speaker 4: Well, Joel, thank you so much for joining us, and

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Speaker 4: I will be going on your show very soon. We

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Speaker 4: talked about a lot and if you were offended, I'm sorry. Guys,

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Speaker 4: go complain to Joel on Twitter. So where can they

941
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Speaker 4: find you so they can go complain if they got triggered.

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Speaker 3: All my complaints can be sent to Wesley Todd. No,

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Speaker 3: you can follow me at Joel Webbin on x that's

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Speaker 3: the handle at Joel Webin, and you won't just get

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Speaker 3: my spicy tweets and cultural commentary and all that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff. But we actually broadcast. We do our show

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Speaker 3: three times a week on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at

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Speaker 4: And I didn't say this earlier, but the reason why

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Speaker 4: I like you so much Joel too is you make

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Speaker 4: Christianity cool, because Christianity is a cool thing, but we've

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Speaker 4: kind of just made it nerdy and not cool where

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Speaker 4: people I guess aren't as interested in it.

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Speaker 3: We've made it feminine, We've made it a little fit do.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So you really kind of break it down in a

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Speaker 4: very interesting way, some topics that oftentimes it wasn't always

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Speaker 4: the coolest topic to talk about, but hearing it from

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Speaker 4: you where you just don't pull any punches, it makes

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Speaker 4: it cool. So I appreciate you, you know, for Holcohold

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Speaker 4: and guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, God, I'm an idiot, but God is very merciful

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Speaker 3: and gracious.

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