Speaker 1: It's a new year.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year's.
Speaker 3: My New Year's goals resolutions are to create, establish and
Speaker 3: support my boundaries at all costs, to prioritize myself over
Speaker 3: everything else, my needs, my health, my mental health, and
Speaker 3: the boundaries I need to support those things.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year.
Speaker 4: My New Year's resolution for twenty twenty two is to
Speaker 4: master the art of simply not giving a f twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one, I spent a lot of time, particularly when
Speaker 4: it comes to work, giving about things that caused me
Speaker 4: unwarranted stress. And for twenty twenty two, I just choose
Speaker 4: simply to not spend time doing things that I enjoy
Speaker 4: while getting things done.
Speaker 5: Hi, doctor Whitley and doctor Sabillah, this is Brittany Curry.
Speaker 5: You know it feels like I went from with the
Speaker 5: pandemic early thirties to late thirties. I don't know what
Speaker 5: happened to my mid thirties, but in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 5: getting the sent some your podcast, but there's really no
Speaker 5: end in sight.
Speaker 6: At the moment on COVID nineteen. I think my biggest
Speaker 6: New Year's resolution is to get grounded back in time
Speaker 6: and really be present. We've spent a lot of the
Speaker 6: past couple of years just kind of waiting for the
Speaker 6: next moment, waiting for the next thing, waiting for things
Speaker 6: to get better. But I think it's time to kind
Speaker 6: of reframe and think about how do we be present
Speaker 6: and take care of ourselves and invest in ourselves in
Speaker 6: the midst of what.
Speaker 5: Is our current normal.
Speaker 7: I hope that you all will continue to build and
Speaker 7: stretch and challenge the boundaries of the impact that you
Speaker 7: can have with those labs podcasts.
Speaker 8: Atti and Zakia. My name is Chandler and calling to
Speaker 8: tell you a Manda Year's resolution, which is to continue
Speaker 8: set in boundaries for myself with friends and family about
Speaker 8: different topics that I am or am not willing to discuss.
Speaker 8: Over the past couple of years with COVID and the
Speaker 8: pandemic and everything else that's gone on, I've recognize that
Speaker 8: there are some things that I don't need to talk
Speaker 8: about with certain people, and just saying I'm not willing
Speaker 8: to talk about that with you has been really helpful
Speaker 8: for my mental health. So I hope that is encouraging to.
Speaker 7: You guys, and maybe that would be.
Speaker 8: Encouraging to someone else.
Speaker 7: Thanks so much, Keep up the good work.
Speaker 2: By first of all.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, y'all.
Speaker 2: Do you have New Year's traditions for what you eat?
Speaker 2: I don't have any New Year's traditions about what I
Speaker 2: eat other than I want to be eating good.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I Some folks they do black eyed peas for good luck,
Speaker 2: but me, I'm just like, give me all the good
Speaker 2: flavors for good love. Flavor is the strongest predictor for
Speaker 2: a successful year. Yes, and a sweet fizzy drink.
Speaker 9: T T.
Speaker 2: You got it right. Good flavors and a sweet fizzy
Speaker 2: drink are the strongest predictors for a successful twenty twenty two. Yes,
Speaker 2: and I don't know about you, but the last few
Speaker 2: years to me haven't been given what they were supposed
Speaker 2: to give.
Speaker 1: Yes, something happened.
Speaker 2: We need to put this whole world in rice control
Speaker 2: all the leak. So I'm ready for a clean slate
Speaker 2: at a fresh start.
Speaker 1: Okay, me too, And so are y'all.
Speaker 2: We just heard from some of our Dope Labs listeners
Speaker 2: at the top sharing their twenty twenty two resolutions, and
Speaker 2: we're sensing a theme. Y'all know how to set some
Speaker 2: healthy boundaries, and we love the one about not giving
Speaker 2: us a care a care at all, right, And that's
Speaker 2: why for the next few weeks, we're bringing you a
Speaker 2: series of labs all about the things we need to
Speaker 2: do in order to take good care of ourselves all
Speaker 2: year round. So whether you have a list of resolutions
Speaker 2: or resolutions aren't your thing, we hope that the next
Speaker 2: few weeks will help you frame self care in a
Speaker 2: whole new way.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: And you know, we're jumping off with my frenemy sleep.
Speaker 2: My friend does not get enough sleep, I think, and
Speaker 2: sleep is my very best friend. Yes, yell, are tight?
Speaker 2: I am asleep right now as I say these words.
Speaker 2: You know, we've seen a lot going on around sleep.
Speaker 2: We've seen Ariana Huffington talking about sleep and wellness. We've
Speaker 2: seen Diddy on audible talking us to sleep, all kinds
Speaker 2: of things. But what we know generally is people are
Speaker 2: complaining that they're not getting enough.
Speaker 1: It's a tail as old as time.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like everybody talks about being tired, at
Speaker 2: least in our society, American culture, because I feel like
Speaker 2: everybody's always working, everybody's always busy.
Speaker 1: I'm so tired, I'm so sleepy. I need more sleep.
Speaker 1: I need to lie down.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what Everything you want to know about sleep
Speaker 2: is coming up. Let's get into the recitation, all right,
Speaker 2: So what do we know? I know sleep eludes me,
Speaker 2: but I know that it's important. Yes, I love sleeping,
Speaker 2: So I know that sleep is good because it is
Speaker 2: good to me. And I think we know that sleep
Speaker 2: has real effects on your day to day life, like
Speaker 2: it affects how your day is going to go. And
Speaker 2: I think we also know that sleep isn't just this
Speaker 2: easy come, easygo kind of thing. There are a lot
Speaker 2: of sleep reslated disorders that a lot of people are experiencing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and there's a whole industry built around it with sleep medication,
Speaker 2: all these different types of beds, millions of different types
Speaker 2: of pillows. Yes, Bose makes little sleep pods that go
Speaker 2: in your ear and give you gentle noises to lull
Speaker 2: you right to sleep.
Speaker 1: And the drown out your snoring partner, M.
Speaker 2: I didn't say it. So what do we want to know?
Speaker 2: I think we already know that sleep is important, But
Speaker 2: how important is it?
Speaker 9: For real?
Speaker 6: For real?
Speaker 1: What are the health benefits of getting good sleep?
Speaker 2: And for some of us that aren't getting great sleep,
Speaker 2: what does that mean for our health and what is
Speaker 2: good sleep like for real? For real people saying eight hours,
Speaker 2: but some people are only sleeping six and they look
Speaker 2: just fine to me. So I want to know how
Speaker 2: much sleep do we actually need? And what are the
Speaker 2: different stages of sleep? And also are there other factors
Speaker 2: that affect sleep, so not just diet, but like social
Speaker 2: and environmental factors. And do we see any kind of
Speaker 2: trends in different populations or different areas of the world.
Speaker 2: And because there's so much that we want to learn
Speaker 2: about sleep, we're making this a two part series, so
Speaker 2: next week we'll be diving even deeper into sleep.
Speaker 1: Let's jump into the dissection.
Speaker 8: At.
Speaker 2: Our guest for this special two part lab is doctor
Speaker 2: Jadan Jean Louis.
Speaker 9: My name is Jadan Jean Louis.
Speaker 10: I'm a professor of neurology and psychiatry at the University
Speaker 10: of Miami at the Middle School of Medicine.
Speaker 2: So we all know that sleep is important for our health.
Speaker 2: But how important is it for real? Yeah, our prayers
Speaker 2: are always saying go to bed so we can be
Speaker 2: big and tall and strong. Was that a trigg or
Speaker 2: is there any evidence of that?
Speaker 1: I still feel a little bit shorter than I should be.
Speaker 9: Sleepy is extremely important.
Speaker 10: Supposedly one third of our lives is spent sleeping. That is,
Speaker 10: somebody who's actually sleeping eight hours to recommended sleep time.
Speaker 10: If you're not getting enough sleep or good quality sleep,
Speaker 10: what we see is that physically you're not doing well,
Speaker 10: mentally not doing well, and your quality of life is
Speaker 10: significantly impaired. Sleep is a biological necessity because almost everything
Speaker 10: we do in our daily existence is a cold by sleep.
Speaker 2: This is stressing me out, all right, Doctor Jean Louis
Speaker 2: is coming in hot. Okay, he's not pulling any punches, y'all.
Speaker 2: So everything that we do is effected by sleep. Sleep
Speaker 2: is good for a whole host of things, so memory
Speaker 2: formation and storage. It's good for your immune system. It
Speaker 2: gives you a healthier heart because your blood pressure lowers.
Speaker 2: Why you're asleep, muscle repair, hormone regulation. Wow, that's a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. And you know what happens when you
Speaker 2: don't have sleep. Doctor Jean Louis said, after three or
Speaker 2: four days without sleep, you'll start to hallucinate. It's basically no,
Speaker 2: sleep is a drug you high on, Yeah, like high
Speaker 2: on low on.
Speaker 1: Sleep, high on low on sleep.
Speaker 10: Yes, Some years ago, a college student wanted to know
Speaker 10: how long he could go without sleep. He did affect
Speaker 10: about eleven days, because some folks felt that he might
Speaker 10: actually die. So you can actually die because of lack
Speaker 10: of sleep. We've never done an experiment, ethically speaking, to
Speaker 10: to deprive people of sleep.
Speaker 9: That was something he wanted to do for himself.
Speaker 2: Listen, if it's not ethically sound for scientists, we shouldn't
Speaker 2: be doing it to ourselves. We shouldn't be torturing ourselves.
Speaker 1: Right, those all nighters we were pulling.
Speaker 2: I don't know how we did it. We should have
Speaker 2: been going to our professors and saying, excuse me, do
Speaker 2: you want me to live?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 1: Just give me an a. I don't need to take
Speaker 1: this exam.
Speaker 2: What doctor Jean Louis mentioned with the college student is
Speaker 2: just anecdotal. But we also know that a lack of
Speaker 2: sleep is detrimental from my studies too.
Speaker 10: What we know is if you deprive mice of sleep
Speaker 10: for a long period of time, they actually die. Since
Speaker 10: we share a lot with them, we know we too,
Speaker 10: if we're deprived for a longer period of time, we
Speaker 10: would also die. So again, we can't say sleep has
Speaker 10: a killing anybody. We don't have any invidence with that,
Speaker 10: but we know of that in fact, long period of
Speaker 10: deprivation we lead to death.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now we know that sleep is a biological necessity.
Speaker 2: And doctor Jean Louis said, ethically, they're not able to
Speaker 2: do studies to prove that you can die from lack
Speaker 2: of sleep, but there's pretty strong evidence that suggest that
Speaker 2: you can't live without it. You know, this is one
Speaker 2: of those things that seems obvious but also not really
Speaker 2: because in today's society, when we're juggling all these different responsibilities,
Speaker 2: sleep is often the first thing out the window. And
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be sacrificing sleep as if it's just nice
Speaker 2: to have. We need to think of it like oxygen.
Speaker 10: The American Academus Sleep Medicine recommends that we get about
Speaker 10: seven to eight hours of sleep as an adults.
Speaker 2: So seven to eight hours is the optimal amount of sleep.
Speaker 2: What are the health risks if you're not typically getting
Speaker 2: that much sleep at night?
Speaker 10: So they determine if you happen to be sleeping less
Speaker 10: than six hours or more than eight hours, sometimes more
Speaker 10: than nine hours, you are at used for significant medical
Speaker 10: come moobidities. Such as how blood pressure, diabetes, cardiovasketar disease,
Speaker 10: cancer to some degree, and if you also sleep in
Speaker 10: more than nine hours, you are also at leased for
Speaker 10: both cardiovasclar disease as well as psychiatric illness.
Speaker 2: This is a slippery slope, so you just got to
Speaker 2: balance right at the top. Don't get too little sleep,
Speaker 2: don't get too much sleep.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: I thought that. I mean, if I'm tired, I just
Speaker 2: lay down. But doctor Jean Lui is telling me, hey, girl,
Speaker 2: get up out of your sleep.
Speaker 1: Eight is enough.
Speaker 2: Mean, I think you sometimes get more than seven to eight.
Speaker 2: I'm often getting absolutely, I'm getting seven up to fourteen.
Speaker 2: You're getting twelve to fourteen, Yes.
Speaker 1: Especially on the weekends. Girl, I am in that bed.
Speaker 2: I know you say it, but I'm like, she's just
Speaker 2: you know, up and been laying back down. No, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'll wake up, but then I will go back to sleep.
Speaker 2: But I'm ashamed to say that now after hearing what
Speaker 2: doctor Jean Luis had to say, well, maybe we should
Speaker 2: be a little worried. I'm feeling like I might be
Speaker 2: all right. Though. Here's what he says about people that
Speaker 2: are getting less sleep.
Speaker 10: The fact that somebody may be a short sleeper. You
Speaker 10: may have a friend who sleeps about six hours or
Speaker 10: five hours. That doesn't mean that we of Cardiovaski's disease
Speaker 10: are substantially higher.
Speaker 9: This could be a naturally born short sleeper.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know if that's necessarily the case for me,
Speaker 2: but I'm glad that that is an option. All Right,
Speaker 2: we're going to take a break, but when we get back,
Speaker 2: we're talking about the different stages of sleep. We're back.
Speaker 2: We're taking a deep dive on sleep in two parts
Speaker 2: next week. We're going to keep talking to our guests,
Speaker 2: doctor Jardin, Jean Louis about environmental factors that affect sleep,
Speaker 2: sleep disorders, and what we've all been waiting for tips
Speaker 2: on how to get better sleep. Now, whether you're getting
Speaker 2: five hours of sleep or twelve, what we know is
Speaker 2: that it's a complex physiological process. There are multiple different
Speaker 2: stages of sleep. You've probably heard of some of them
Speaker 2: like rim or rim. All these different stages are classified
Speaker 2: by what's happening in the brain. There's neurons in your brain,
Speaker 2: so you constantly have neural activity. Measuring that neural activity
Speaker 2: gives you what we call brain waves. And so what
Speaker 2: doctor Jean Luis is characterizing is how those brain waves look,
Speaker 2: the different patterns and structures they make when you observe them.
Speaker 2: The first thing we have to understand is what's happening
Speaker 2: when we're awake.
Speaker 10: As we are awake, as we are having a conversation. Now,
Speaker 10: the brain is producing what we call beta waves. Bida
Speaker 10: really is fast frequency, low voltage that allows us to
Speaker 10: be conscious. It allows us to respond to stimuli because
Speaker 10: this kind of activity in the brain allows us to
Speaker 10: process information. So therefore, if I call your name, that's
Speaker 10: the stimulus, you're going to be able to respond to it.
Speaker 2: When you start to feel groggy and lay down, after
Speaker 2: about ten minutes, your brain starts producing alpha waves.
Speaker 1: This is stage one of sleep.
Speaker 10: Alf Our waves are lower frequency and the voltage of
Speaker 10: the amplitude begins to go a little bit higher. When
Speaker 10: you're producing al Fibrijsippi means I made a transition phase
Speaker 10: between wakefulness and stage one. I'm not asleep yet because
Speaker 10: if I call your name, you can respond most.
Speaker 9: Of the time.
Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite parts going to sleep.
Speaker 2: I like to feel sleepy, like When I feel sleepy
Speaker 2: like that, I need to just lay flat right away,
Speaker 2: and then as you begin to fall asleep, the alpha
Speaker 2: waves your brain is produced and transition into a different
Speaker 2: shape to stata waves.
Speaker 10: Again, the frequency is dropping and the amplitude is going
Speaker 10: up and up and up.
Speaker 9: Stage one sleep, most people can still respond.
Speaker 2: If your sleep isn't disrupted, then you may move from
Speaker 2: stage one to stage two, which is when we move
Speaker 2: into deeper sleep.
Speaker 10: Two things happen doing stage two sleep. We produce what
Speaker 10: we call K complexes and sleep spindles.
Speaker 2: Now these are not physical things that we're producing, but
Speaker 2: they are characterizations of the the way your brain activity
Speaker 2: looks when observed during sleep, and these both happen during
Speaker 2: nrim or non rapid eye movement. Sleep experts are still
Speaker 2: working on understanding the significance and purpose of sleep spindles
Speaker 2: and why their frequency and form can vary from person
Speaker 2: to person. And recently there was a study trying to
Speaker 2: understand if sleep spindles could potentially be inherited parents giving
Speaker 2: you bad sleep. Imagine somebody says you look tired, and
Speaker 2: you say, I got my dad's sleep spindals. We try
Speaker 2: to blame everything on our parents, right, especially that dad.
Speaker 2: Then for K complexes, well, it's thought that K complexes
Speaker 2: might be able to suppress your brain's ability to respond
Speaker 2: to stimuli. So it's saying like, hey, there is no
Speaker 2: danger and to keep doing what you're doing right.
Speaker 9: Sleep again.
Speaker 10: If you are not disturbing any way whatsoever, then you
Speaker 10: could get into the deepest stage of sleep, which we
Speaker 10: call delta sleep.
Speaker 2: Delta sleep is also called stage three sleep, my favorite part.
Speaker 2: I don't know who I am, what's up, what's down?
Speaker 2: Somebody wakes me up. I'm terrified because I don't know
Speaker 2: where I am.
Speaker 10: When you have in delta sleep, the amplitude is really
Speaker 10: high and the frequency is very low. The deepest stage
Speaker 10: of sleep is what the doctors usually recommend you get
Speaker 10: if you happen to be injured. When the doctor says,
Speaker 10: I really want you to get bed west, what they
Speaker 10: are saying is they want you to get a lot
Speaker 10: of deep sleep or delta sleep.
Speaker 2: So first you're awake and your brain's making beta waves.
Speaker 2: Then you go to stage one and that's alpha waves.
Speaker 2: Stage two is data and that's where you have those
Speaker 2: K complexes and sleep spindles. Stage three is delta TT's favorite,
Speaker 2: and stage four is rim which we haven't talked about yet,
Speaker 2: but that's rapid eye movement sleep.
Speaker 10: I love im sleep because that's when we are all dreaming.
Speaker 10: Every person who has a good night slip should experience
Speaker 10: about four to five dream episodes. So essentially, every ninety
Speaker 10: minutes or so, we have one dream episode, and then
Speaker 10: as you get litter and litter through the night or
Speaker 10: in the early morning hours, we tend to have more
Speaker 10: dream episodes.
Speaker 1: During rem sleep.
Speaker 2: Our body might not be moving, but our brain is active. Baby,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can recall when I wake
Speaker 2: up how many dreams that I've had. How do we
Speaker 2: know if we're having four to five dreams? I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I feel like I'm counting my dreams like this.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I start out and we're all in a boat,
Speaker 2: and then I opened a door in a boat and
Speaker 2: we're all in a room and it's a party from
Speaker 2: my third grade classroom. That's a separate dream. Every time
Speaker 2: I move through a different portal, new dream.
Speaker 1: Can you remember all the portals?
Speaker 2: It's like different scenes, and sometimes it's just morph and
Speaker 2: sometimes people don't have faces, but I know who they are.
Speaker 2: That happens to me too, or they'll have a completely
Speaker 2: different face, and I'm like, that is I know that's
Speaker 2: your TT exactly. I know exactly who it is, and
Speaker 2: I'm calling them by that name, but they don't look
Speaker 2: like that person at all. I need to be journal
Speaker 2: in my dreams because I want to know what's in
Speaker 2: my subconscious. Yes. My grandma used to say, don't tell
Speaker 2: your dream before breakfast or it might happen.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So if I have nightmares or anything bad, I don't
Speaker 2: tell people before I eat. Have you ever solved a
Speaker 2: problem or like, had something that was just heavy on
Speaker 2: your heart that you were dealing with in real life
Speaker 2: and then you go into the dream world and you
Speaker 2: come back and you got to answer or a solution.
Speaker 2: I don't think with like social things, but I think yes.
Speaker 2: I feel like that happened to me a lot when
Speaker 2: I was still in school, where I'd be like, I
Speaker 2: don't know how to answer this problem or whatever, and
Speaker 2: I would go to sleep and wake up and be like,
Speaker 2: I feel like I know what the answer is now
Speaker 2: because I was working on it in my dreams.
Speaker 1: But problems that I have with people, no, they're still
Speaker 1: not about.
Speaker 10: No, because the blended constantly looking for answers. All of
Speaker 10: this stuff we've been exposed to for all of our
Speaker 10: lives in the back of our mind somehow see onefore
Speaker 10: calls it the self conscious mind. There we have all
Speaker 10: the answers while we are away producing bid our way.
Speaker 10: We can't get that in deep sleep, bowl and sleep
Speaker 10: we do have access to that.
Speaker 2: Now, the question is what are the trends? How are
Speaker 2: there is everybody getting deep sleep? Who's not getting good sleep?
Speaker 2: I want to know.
Speaker 10: We looked at data for about forty years, going back
Speaker 10: to nineteen seventy six. We saw that between black and
Speaker 10: white there's a huged the economy in terms of how
Speaker 10: much sleep you are getting.
Speaker 2: In a twenty fifteen study, scientists found that Latino and
Speaker 2: Latina or Latin X or Latine, as well as black
Speaker 2: people reported getting less than six hours of sleep on
Speaker 2: average per night.
Speaker 10: It looks like the gap between black and white is
Speaker 10: getting wider over time, which would be very lovely because
Speaker 10: short sleep is a predictor or cardio basketball disease.
Speaker 9: So sleepduation is very important.
Speaker 2: And there's a major health implications when you consider that.
Speaker 2: And so not only is there a difference in total hours,
Speaker 2: doctor Jean Luis's there's a disparity when it comes to
Speaker 2: getting certain stages of sleep, and that can have serious
Speaker 2: effects on your health.
Speaker 10: If you look at the data, so on average, black
Speaker 10: folks compared to white sleep about thirty to forty five
Speaker 10: minutes less, which means you're getting a less amount of
Speaker 10: slower sleep.
Speaker 2: And that slow wave sleep is happening during stages two
Speaker 2: and three.
Speaker 10: Doing slower sleep, your blood pressure is supposed to dip.
Speaker 10: If it does not, we call this nocturnal have blood
Speaker 10: pressure or nocturnal hypertension.
Speaker 9: A lot of African American, of Black.
Speaker 10: Folks have high levels of high blood pressure, high level
Speaker 10: of hypertension. Well, it is in part due to the
Speaker 10: fact that we are getting enough delta sleep. Delta sleep
Speaker 10: is extremely important for dementia. We are learning that the
Speaker 10: whole system, which you call it the glymphatic system, that's
Speaker 10: the system in the brain that washes out all the
Speaker 10: taxins will accumulate during the day.
Speaker 2: That's amyloid proteins. Those are the structures that they look
Speaker 2: for when they're scanning to see if you are developing
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's or dementia. And so you get protein built up
Speaker 2: and there are these toxins and things and they can aggregate,
Speaker 2: and you get this protein aggregation. You can imagine you're
Speaker 2: less likely to get aggregation if these things are cleared
Speaker 2: from your system. And that's what the glymphatic system does
Speaker 2: when you sleep, is clearing those toxins. It's connected to
Speaker 2: the spinal fluid. It's wild.
Speaker 1: These bodies are amazing, amazing.
Speaker 8: Bruh.
Speaker 2: Why can't I feel that happening, that washing over my
Speaker 2: brain because you're in delta sleep, girl.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and wake up quick one day and
Speaker 1: catch it.
Speaker 2: And part of what the brain is washing out are
Speaker 2: these protein precursors that if they don't get removed, they
Speaker 2: can become toxic. Amyloid beta or A beta and tau.
Speaker 10: There are two particular toxin which we call abida and tau.
Speaker 10: Those two proteins are the indices when we see them
Speaker 10: in the brain that somebody has a highlight clut of
Speaker 10: developing ASA's dementia.
Speaker 2: Studies have shown that people of color not only spend
Speaker 2: less time on average in deep sleep, they also take
Speaker 2: longer to fall asleep and they wake up more during
Speaker 2: the night.
Speaker 1: All of this leads to less time.
Speaker 2: In that sweet spot, the deep sleep zone, which is
Speaker 2: really crucial for all of the health reasons we discussed earlier.
Speaker 2: So we've covered quite a bit of ground so far.
Speaker 2: We've talked about the importance of sleep and how it's
Speaker 2: connected to so many different systems. We've talked about how
Speaker 2: many hours of sleep we really should be getting t
Speaker 2: t Yes. We've also talked about the different stages of
Speaker 2: sleep and what their function is, and how many dreams
Speaker 2: we should be having because I have a friend who
Speaker 2: says she doesn't dream, and I've got questions.
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of questions about that.
Speaker 2: But we also realize that there are sleep deficits in
Speaker 2: different communities, and so we have sleep disparities as well.
Speaker 2: And so one of the things that we've talked about
Speaker 2: in some earlier episodes, which I think is important here,
Speaker 2: is understanding that when we say things like, oh, people
Speaker 2: of color get less sleep and they're more likely to
Speaker 2: wake up in the night, that is not just because
Speaker 2: the melanin in their skin makes them wake up. There
Speaker 2: are other things going on. That is such a good point,
Speaker 2: and that's exactly what we're talking about next week in
Speaker 2: part two of this series. We're talking about the environmental
Speaker 2: and psychosocial factors that impact sleep. My one thing is
Speaker 2: a New York Times article. Okay, you know, a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, I shared about my experience with a
Speaker 2: crustacean in my oysters. Oh, if you're not following Zakia
Speaker 2: on Instagram, you're really missing out. She's on the storyteller.
Speaker 2: I don't post a lot to the grid, but I
Speaker 2: am in those stories, and you need to be following
Speaker 2: her and setting those alerts so that you know when
Speaker 2: she's posting. Melissa Clark wrote in The New York Times
Speaker 2: about oysters and oyster flavor, and she says to eat
Speaker 2: oysters better, treat them like wine, and I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2: You know how they say wine has a terror are
Speaker 2: like a flavor profile based on where it's grown. There's
Speaker 2: a similar term for seafood and it's called a mirror
Speaker 2: for the marine environment. And they're talking about that for
Speaker 2: oysters and scallops. And it was really interesting to me.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. So my one thing I love
Speaker 2: a good funny gift, and I especially love good funny
Speaker 2: gifts that involve my dog Daisy. She's a thousand year
Speaker 2: old Chihuahua, and I wonder where Jimmy is because it's
Speaker 2: actually one of his.
Speaker 1: This is a gift tim book.
Speaker 2: I use this thing called Pet Creatives not even from
Speaker 2: fucking friend, and they take a picture of your dog
Speaker 2: or your pet, and then they have these different templates
Speaker 2: that they could put them in to sketch them. And
Speaker 2: I made Daisy into a classic lady. Yes, she's beautiful, classy.
Speaker 2: I did this in the middle of the night one
Speaker 2: night when I was trying to figure out what to
Speaker 2: get Jimmy for Christmas. Every time I think about it,
Speaker 2: I can't stop laughing and I can't wait.
Speaker 1: For it to get here because it's just so funny.
Speaker 2: She has a little tr on, she has a little
Speaker 2: pearl necklace on and like a black gown. That's how
Speaker 2: she should be dressed. That's how she presents. At least
Speaker 2: she does present with that level of class. I would
Speaker 2: like to say she does, and I mean that's what
Speaker 2: she would like to believe. So that's pet Creatives dot Com.
Speaker 1: It's a great gift.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the outfits are, but there's
Speaker 2: lots of different temblaces you can use. They work very quickly.
Speaker 2: The customer service was great and I can't look at
Speaker 2: that picture anymore because I'm going to start crying.
Speaker 1: It's very funny to me.
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