1
00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,200
Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

2
00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,800
Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

3
00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,720
Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, Roses are Red,

4
00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,919
Speaker 1: Blood is blue, Blood is Green and transparent too. We're

5
00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,079
Speaker 1: talking about all the bloody, weird animals in nature, from

6
00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,960
Speaker 1: truly primeval horseshoe crabs to a group of mysterious zombie

7
00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,680
Speaker 1: lizards to a fish whose blood runs ice cold. Discover

8
00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,199
Speaker 1: this and more as we answer the age old question

9
00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,479
Speaker 1: is ghost Blood a good band name or is it

10
00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,479
Speaker 1: already taken? Joining me today to cover blood are the

11
00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:52,400
Speaker 1: weirdos behind Dog, Sean Baby and Rubert Brockway. Welcome. I

12
00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:59,160
Speaker 1: studied bud light and volleyball. I studied blood blood. If

13
00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,320
Speaker 1: you're going to be great, sweet blood blood blood blood blood, blood,

14
00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,280
Speaker 1: blood blood is that you know? They did they sing

15
00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,680
Speaker 1: that song at Vampire College? Oh yeah, I mean all

16
00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,120
Speaker 1: the time. I went there, clearly and uh did not

17
00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,040
Speaker 1: graduate washed out of that like I do just everything.

18
00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,040
Speaker 1: If being a gifted kid really screwed me, I thought

19
00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,880
Speaker 1: I could coast through Blood College. But it's tough, and

20
00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,200
Speaker 1: they do, Greg, they do. Greg stands it's where they

21
00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,600
Speaker 1: drink blood from some guy named Greg. I like that one.

22
00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,119
Speaker 1: That's cute. I love it when jokes cute and say say,

23
00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,880
Speaker 1: I like that one. That's cute. Speaking you're cute. I

24
00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,440
Speaker 1: made something for you. I did this once. Uh in

25
00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,440
Speaker 1: rehearsal it did not go well, so we might want

26
00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:52,760
Speaker 1: to just cut all this. But here we go. Can

27
00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,040
Speaker 1: you hear that? Okay, yes, I'm playing. I'm playing the piano.

28
00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,680
Speaker 1: It worries me Brockway, Katie and the and it's me

29
00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:08,040
Speaker 1: five out of five at red my feet discussing blood

30
00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:17,680
Speaker 1: field chimpanzees. I look at chimps that way. This is

31
00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,040
Speaker 1: that old Joni Mitchell's song from the movie Coda My

32
00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,040
Speaker 1: I've had on We've been on Katie's show three times now,

33
00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:36,000
Speaker 1: learned about giant bears and maybe cow it's the Klowaka

34
00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:45,480
Speaker 1: jokes that I recall. We really don't know creature. Uh,

35
00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,600
Speaker 1: the features. I was waiting. I was waiting. I knew

36
00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,560
Speaker 1: that was alright, alright, that was it? Can I play

37
00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,760
Speaker 1: that without getting a sued into oblivion? I got it

38
00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:06,840
Speaker 1: from like a deep cut YouTube karaoke track, So maybe

39
00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,040
Speaker 1: I tried to find the one with the fewest number

40
00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,160
Speaker 1: of views, but that might be it might be the

41
00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,600
Speaker 1: most litigious of them. Actually, best best case scenario, you

42
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,239
Speaker 1: could cut the music and just have Sean going acapella

43
00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,639
Speaker 1: on that and this heartbreaking solo melody for five minutes. Well,

44
00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,600
Speaker 1: this has been a great use of the first the

45
00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,280
Speaker 1: first ten minutes of the podcast. Thanks. I gave that

46
00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,119
Speaker 1: a four percent chance of you keeping but and here

47
00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,200
Speaker 1: we are. That's accurate. Something like that, something like that

48
00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,880
Speaker 1: pops into your head at four am. It's like, you

49
00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,880
Speaker 1: know what, tomorrow, I'm gonna sing this on the podcast. Yeah, No,

50
00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,680
Speaker 1: that's I keep keep rolling with those instincts. It's gonna

51
00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:54,880
Speaker 1: it's it's really gonna far in this business. Kid. We're anyway.

52
00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,640
Speaker 1: Back to blood, Yeah, back to blood. So today we're

53
00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,840
Speaker 1: all about blood. Blood is great. We need it for

54
00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,560
Speaker 1: being alive generally. And the cool thing about blood is

55
00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,600
Speaker 1: that most living organisms have some version of it. Most

56
00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,440
Speaker 1: animals have blood, and the blood they have. We've all

57
00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,200
Speaker 1: met Greg, we've all tasted Greg, we've all done a

58
00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,680
Speaker 1: Greg stand and we're not proud of it. And blood

59
00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:31,279
Speaker 1: is well you drained Greg in seventy three seconds. Rep. Greg,

60
00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,120
Speaker 1: Sweet baby, sweet Angel. But the so yes, the blood

61
00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,120
Speaker 1: of other animals can be very different from our own.

62
00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:45,720
Speaker 1: Take the horseshoe crab please. The Atlantic horseshoe crab is

63
00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,719
Speaker 1: four fifty million years old, I mean as a species. Uh.

64
00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,080
Speaker 1: And their blood is this bright blue color. It is

65
00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,120
Speaker 1: not red. It is blue. Is that the picture I'm

66
00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,479
Speaker 1: looking at? It looks refreshing, It does, doesn't It looks

67
00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,560
Speaker 1: kind of like a blueberry smoothie. Yeah. I can taste that.

68
00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,839
Speaker 1: It would be like kind of a blue raspberry fizz

69
00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,799
Speaker 1: kind Yeah. Yeah. So is this like a horseshoe crab

70
00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,400
Speaker 1: milking assembly line? Yes, it is. That's disgusting. It is.

71
00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,440
Speaker 1: Feel like there should be some kind of a law

72
00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,919
Speaker 1: against that. This is illegal what they're doing. Right, No,

73
00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,599
Speaker 1: but there should. We'll actually get more into the morality

74
00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,720
Speaker 1: of that in a little bit. But your instincts that

75
00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,360
Speaker 1: this seems bad is actually correct. Good good instincts to

76
00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,760
Speaker 1: spot that something is wrong with the blood drinking assembly. Okay,

77
00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,360
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of monsters and there's bright blue blood

78
00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,960
Speaker 1: coming out of their buttholes. Now, I my instinct say,

79
00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,560
Speaker 1: wholes off about this? Soft? No, a very soft no.

80
00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,960
Speaker 1: I can get talked into it. I'm no city slicker.

81
00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,919
Speaker 1: But when I hear the word blood factory, something seems

82
00:05:53,080 --> 00:06:01,400
Speaker 1: liky about that. So yes, Horse Atlantic horseshoe crabs are invertebrates,

83
00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,080
Speaker 1: and they are a species that are over four hundred

84
00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,720
Speaker 1: and fifty million years old, older than the dinosaurs, truly

85
00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,680
Speaker 1: ancient creatures. Individually, they only live to be up to

86
00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,920
Speaker 1: around forty years old, which I still think is impressive

87
00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,920
Speaker 1: for Yeah, exactly, and visually they really do look like

88
00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,720
Speaker 1: some kind of ancient creature. They don't really look like crabs.

89
00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,200
Speaker 1: They are not. They aren't. In fact, crabs are not

90
00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,279
Speaker 1: all that closely related to them. They're much more closely

91
00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,200
Speaker 1: related to spiders and scorpions, and they are if you've

92
00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,440
Speaker 1: never seen a horseshoe crab, they're basically like a dome

93
00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:46,760
Speaker 1: with a tail and legs and gross rat tail. Yeah, yes,

94
00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:54,279
Speaker 1: they deserve the butt. Whole blood factory maybe evolved from

95
00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,720
Speaker 1: like an empty shoe and a rat tail, you know

96
00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,360
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, maybe do something, some wings, some horns,

97
00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,679
Speaker 1: I don't care, try out something, maybe just a face

98
00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,880
Speaker 1: of any kind. This is what self confidence looks like, Sean.

99
00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,640
Speaker 1: This is they discovered themselves. If it ain't broke don't

100
00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,320
Speaker 1: evolve it. You're gonna shame these horseshoe crabs as if

101
00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,040
Speaker 1: they're supposed to go on Instagram and do what everyone

102
00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,560
Speaker 1: else is doing. They've got their own style, and that

103
00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,960
Speaker 1: style is dome, legs and tail. So there's something respectable

104
00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,160
Speaker 1: about that. They're just doing their things for them. Yeah,

105
00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,920
Speaker 1: so they're there's kind of like muddy gray color um.

106
00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,680
Speaker 1: On one side, of course, they look sort of like

107
00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,040
Speaker 1: a weird sort of a rigid dome with the tail.

108
00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,800
Speaker 1: On the other side, you see all their legs. So

109
00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,600
Speaker 1: that tail that they have is not really a tale.

110
00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,720
Speaker 1: It's called a tellson, which is actually, yeah, tellson. It's

111
00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,840
Speaker 1: like if you've seen a shrimp before, Have you guys

112
00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,360
Speaker 1: seen a shrimp before? Ever seen a shrimp? Never heard

113
00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,600
Speaker 1: about these little guys? How can you have a jumbo shrimp?

114
00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,280
Speaker 1: Tell me to explain that to me. Why don't you

115
00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,440
Speaker 1: drive on the parkway of a park on the driveway

116
00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,640
Speaker 1: watermelon smash? Yeah, exactly. So the tail of a shrimp,

117
00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,480
Speaker 1: that little fan thing that's actually the shrimps tellson. Whereas

118
00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,560
Speaker 1: for the horseshoe crab, it is this long and pointy thing.

119
00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,320
Speaker 1: So they use this tellson both for swimming and foreseeing.

120
00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,360
Speaker 1: They have a cluster of photo receptors on their tail,

121
00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,440
Speaker 1: which you know. Uh, so they sort of have a face.

122
00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,480
Speaker 1: It's just spread out across the telson. It's spread out

123
00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,400
Speaker 1: across the whole body. Because they have nine eyes. Not

124
00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,080
Speaker 1: only do they have that, they have a not only

125
00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,000
Speaker 1: do they have to disagree with that decision. You guys

126
00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,360
Speaker 1: are coming around way too fast on the side of

127
00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,680
Speaker 1: blood factory. I'm still with blood factory. I just would

128
00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,800
Speaker 1: like that to know that I disagree with having nine

129
00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,640
Speaker 1: eyes and sprawled a face, sprawled across a tail. I

130
00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,880
Speaker 1: think that's disagreement, is noted um put it. We'll put

131
00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,440
Speaker 1: a pin in that, see if we can, you know,

132
00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,880
Speaker 1: get a scrum, get a meet and going about that.

133
00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, so they have nine eyes. They have a

134
00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,280
Speaker 1: pair of compound eyes. They have a pair of small

135
00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,240
Speaker 1: lateral eyes right behind the compound eyes. They have two

136
00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,200
Speaker 1: pairs of eyes near the front of the crab, and

137
00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,800
Speaker 1: they have one single eye in the middle. Uh. And

138
00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,200
Speaker 1: that there's a middle pair of eyes that can detect

139
00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,480
Speaker 1: UV light. But otherwise they have pretty poor vision. Uh.

140
00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:44,000
Speaker 1: Even with all of these eyes, they have good Yeah,

141
00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,360
Speaker 1: they have these large rudimentary rods and cones. I mean,

142
00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,680
Speaker 1: remember these are four hundred and fifty million years old.

143
00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,439
Speaker 1: Their eyes are not gonna be like the new the

144
00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,360
Speaker 1: iPhone six there, you know, they don't have the updated technology.

145
00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,440
Speaker 1: Nine none of them worked. Let me just maybe the

146
00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,200
Speaker 1: tent will do it. These are like the Nokia of invertebrates.

147
00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,160
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're built to last four fifty million years.

148
00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,520
Speaker 1: But if you try to take an image with it,

149
00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna, you know, come out like with one pixel,

150
00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,760
Speaker 1: you look like a guar cod piece. You've got nine

151
00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,280
Speaker 1: eyes and none of them work. I'm coming around on

152
00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,640
Speaker 1: the blood you know what. I'm coming around on the

153
00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:31,520
Speaker 1: blood factory, damn it. So they're the eyes are really

154
00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,240
Speaker 1: more optimized towards being able to see things in low

155
00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,440
Speaker 1: light than being able to have a crystal clear clarity vision.

156
00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,280
Speaker 1: I have a question is worth looking at when you're

157
00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,080
Speaker 1: a horseshoe crab, Like, is there a lot of decisions

158
00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,000
Speaker 1: you make based on things you see? Are they're like, oh,

159
00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,120
Speaker 1: look there's some some seafloor gunk over there that's more

160
00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,440
Speaker 1: tasty than the seafloor gunk this direction, right, No, not really,

161
00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:01,040
Speaker 1: it's just a vague danger acquire food and mate. That's it. Really,

162
00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,280
Speaker 1: it's been working for a long time, to work for

163
00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,400
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah. So if you flip over a

164
00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:12,720
Speaker 1: horseshoe crab, you you weird o you They have eight

165
00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,440
Speaker 1: legs underneath there they have two petal helps just like

166
00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,160
Speaker 1: spiders do those like little arms, and they have a

167
00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,840
Speaker 1: pair of chilis arrae. Again very spider like, because these

168
00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,560
Speaker 1: are more closely related to spiders than they are to say,

169
00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,920
Speaker 1: like a crab. And speaking of being spider like, they

170
00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,880
Speaker 1: have book lungs on their underside, which if you if

171
00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,080
Speaker 1: you know about spiders, you know that spiders also have

172
00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,440
Speaker 1: book lungs. But whereas the spider's book lungs can breathe air,

173
00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,760
Speaker 1: the horseshoe crabs book lungs breathe underwater. And the reason

174
00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,280
Speaker 1: these are called book lungs is they are kind of

175
00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,640
Speaker 1: like flap like structures that they they kind of these

176
00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,319
Speaker 1: thin membranes which are sort of the quote unc quote

177
00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:05,840
Speaker 1: pages on which gas exchange occurs. So you know, so

178
00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,199
Speaker 1: this is very much like a guar cod piece. I've

179
00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:17,800
Speaker 1: got the pedopalps yells the gas exchange. Eight legs hold

180
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:24,600
Speaker 1: the classics. Yes, Guar as everyone everyone knows Gar, the

181
00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,920
Speaker 1: band that has the you know, and cod pieces and

182
00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,320
Speaker 1: cod pieces exactly everybody. More of their albums were called

183
00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:38,960
Speaker 1: Blood Factory and Loves. All of my references referenced Gallagher

184
00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,600
Speaker 1: and Gar. I think those are the kids love both

185
00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,640
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if we want to,

186
00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,240
Speaker 1: if we want to keep it up to date for

187
00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,400
Speaker 1: the kids these days. I guess it looks like an

188
00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,400
Speaker 1: elden Ring cod piece. That's true, it does look like

189
00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,960
Speaker 1: an elder Ring cod piece. I think I had that

190
00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,160
Speaker 1: hat for I feel so bad for the kids these

191
00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,240
Speaker 1: days that your version of Guar is elden Ring. So yeah.

192
00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,520
Speaker 1: The idea is that spiders and scorpions, who also have

193
00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,040
Speaker 1: book lungs, may have may have evolved from the book

194
00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,319
Speaker 1: gills of the horseshoe crab. Um so I think I

195
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,480
Speaker 1: said earlier that horseshoe crabs have book lungs, that they

196
00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,200
Speaker 1: have book gills. I'm sorry, but the Yeah, the book

197
00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,640
Speaker 1: lungs are very similar, but they're actually found internally in

198
00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,240
Speaker 1: spiders and scorpions, whereas with the horseshoe crabs, their book

199
00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,720
Speaker 1: gills are just kind of like outside of them just

200
00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,280
Speaker 1: just like on on their underside, as if they're holding

201
00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,719
Speaker 1: a little accordion, but that accordion breathes for them. It

202
00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,440
Speaker 1: seems like another bad decision. I'm just gonna say, like

203
00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,240
Speaker 1: for something that's what four million years old, I feel

204
00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,920
Speaker 1: like there are a few times you could have reconsidered

205
00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,400
Speaker 1: holding your lungs outside in the air, being like, hey,

206
00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,880
Speaker 1: hear me out, hear me out. They can also use

207
00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,800
Speaker 1: them as legs, and they can use them to help

208
00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,400
Speaker 1: them swim, So it'd be kind of like if we

209
00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,560
Speaker 1: could like run with our lungs, like sticking our lungs

210
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,920
Speaker 1: out of our bodies, you know, kind of running on them. No. Yes,

211
00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,760
Speaker 1: if you knew someone who had eight legs and they

212
00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,920
Speaker 1: pulled their lungs out so they would have ten legs,

213
00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,080
Speaker 1: you'd probably say, buddy, I take it easy. I think

214
00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,000
Speaker 1: you don't need to do whatever problem you're trying to

215
00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,440
Speaker 1: fix with more legs. You could have done it with eight.

216
00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,800
Speaker 1: I just don't think more legs solution. Let's explore other avenues.

217
00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,480
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. Honestly, it's the same thing with

218
00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,880
Speaker 1: the eyes. Man. You've got this problem over and over again.

219
00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,080
Speaker 1: It is very much like whoa, this is neat. We

220
00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,640
Speaker 1: got some legs. Let's make some more legs. Oh an eyeball,

221
00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,920
Speaker 1: this is great. Maybe some more eyeballs though, and and

222
00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:46,080
Speaker 1: the lungs are okay, but maybe back to legs again. Yeah, well,

223
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,320
Speaker 1: actually that's that's a good point because those skills, the

224
00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,800
Speaker 1: book gills were thought to originally have been legs and

225
00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:58,160
Speaker 1: then turned into into the gills, like from legs to

226
00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:04,440
Speaker 1: using them to breathe legs, and then was like, wait,

227
00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,760
Speaker 1: I need to breathe. I screwed that up. I was

228
00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,920
Speaker 1: going to suggest that maybe the horse, you crab ladies

229
00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,560
Speaker 1: like a guy with lung legs, and so they just

230
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,360
Speaker 1: sort of selectively bred for that. Yeah, that's my theory.

231
00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm not again, I did not major and evolutionary biology.

232
00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,840
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a theory. I think you should

233
00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,800
Speaker 1: consider both sides. Yeah, I mean, you know, like you're

234
00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,160
Speaker 1: at the gym and you see someone breathing with their legs,

235
00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,520
Speaker 1: is that it's got to do something. I guess for

236
00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,200
Speaker 1: some people it's not for me, but I I you know,

237
00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,800
Speaker 1: I could see being into that, right, So you guys

238
00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,880
Speaker 1: keep like it's in my Google search a little bit. No, No,

239
00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,520
Speaker 1: shame in that. So I know it's blood. Let's talk

240
00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:59,080
Speaker 1: about it's blood. It is blue blood, which is striking beautiful.

241
00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,880
Speaker 1: But why is it blue? I mean, we have to

242
00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,800
Speaker 1: in part understand why our blood is red. Horseshoe crab

243
00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,880
Speaker 1: blood is blue because it contains a lot of copper.

244
00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:18,720
Speaker 1: The copper atom containing protein hemocyanin is present. Instead of

245
00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:24,160
Speaker 1: the hemoglobin found in human and other vertebrate blood. Our

246
00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,160
Speaker 1: blood has iron atoms in them instead of copper, which

247
00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,080
Speaker 1: is why our blood is red when oxygenated. You know

248
00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:39,080
Speaker 1: how iron when it rusts, it turns red rusty blood

249
00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,360
Speaker 1: that I do know. One other thing about horseshoe crab

250
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,760
Speaker 1: blood is it it's like supercoagulating. Is that the proper term? Well? Yeah,

251
00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,960
Speaker 1: So what's interesting is that the blue blood has a

252
00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,840
Speaker 1: meebo sites, which is a blood cell which clots when

253
00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,560
Speaker 1: it comes into contact with an indo TX. And so

254
00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:06,040
Speaker 1: an indotoxin is found in certain bacteria's outer membranes, uh,

255
00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,119
Speaker 1: and it can cause a lot of problems for you

256
00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,080
Speaker 1: if it gets into your blood. And so the horseshoe

257
00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:16,879
Speaker 1: crab has this protective technique of forming these very quick

258
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,439
Speaker 1: blood clots in response to indo toxins, which protects it

259
00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:26,360
Speaker 1: from bacterial infections inside its bloodstream. So what this means

260
00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,359
Speaker 1: is you gotta you gotta keep your blood factory super

261
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,760
Speaker 1: sterile or your end up making like a like a

262
00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,280
Speaker 1: jello factory. I mean, that's just a good tip for

263
00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,440
Speaker 1: any blood factory, any and all blood factories. I mean

264
00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,720
Speaker 1: general life tents are encouraged, eye wear protective eyewear, don't

265
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,840
Speaker 1: wear sandals, and you know, do not drink the blood jello.

266
00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:53,960
Speaker 1: So correct vampire screening processes. Right, you must betray God, yes,

267
00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,399
Speaker 1: exactly in your mission statement, Like you can't even get

268
00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,160
Speaker 1: the business loan unless you tell the bank I will

269
00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,520
Speaker 1: betray God. So this is like, this is like a

270
00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,560
Speaker 1: medical facility like you said cover and I'm like, oh, okay,

271
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,800
Speaker 1: this is an iPhone factory. This is like how we

272
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:11,119
Speaker 1: make wires. No, no, it's a million year old monsters

273
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,600
Speaker 1: and we bleed them until they give us iPhones. Relatively

274
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,000
Speaker 1: inefficient use of the horseshoe crab. What they're actually used for,

275
00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,280
Speaker 1: like like you said, is in a medical context. So

276
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,520
Speaker 1: the fact that it clots in the presence of indotoxin

277
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,960
Speaker 1: makes it extremely useful because catching Indotoxins in vaccines or

278
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,120
Speaker 1: medical devices can mean the difference between life and death.

279
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,399
Speaker 1: Like if you have, say you're like replacing a knee cap,

280
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,040
Speaker 1: but it's covered in bacteria, you could get sepsis and

281
00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,680
Speaker 1: that can be fatal. But if you dunk the replacement

282
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,280
Speaker 1: knee cap in some horseshoe crab blood and and then

283
00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,960
Speaker 1: it clots, then you know that it is covered in

284
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not how they do it. I don't

285
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,720
Speaker 1: think they just like dunk it, right, They just have

286
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 1: like a hoop that squeeze it like a sponge over.

287
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's always juice is always better fresh, right,

288
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 1: they got one of those. That's why you always bring

289
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 1: a horseshoe crab with you to the doctor. Yea, exactly,

290
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 1: that's why they why that's why your doctor has rubbed

291
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,439
Speaker 1: a horseshoe crab on you. Yeah. No. So so you

292
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 1: can use the amba site from the horseshoe crab blood

293
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,240
Speaker 1: to test batches of vaccines to make sure that they

294
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 1: don't have any indotoxins, which means that they are bacteria

295
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 1: free and that they would be safe. And so this

296
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,159
Speaker 1: is extremely important for medicine to make sure that we

297
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,440
Speaker 1: can vaccinate people without you know, having an impurity in

298
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 1: the vaccine that could hurt people. But there is a

299
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: cost to this, and that is, of course having blood

300
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:54,679
Speaker 1: factories that use bunch of right exactly, spitting in the

301
00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 1: eye of the ancient god. Surely the odd that they worship,

302
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 1: being four million years old will return one day and

303
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 1: we'll see this and there will be a reckoning, yeah, exactly,

304
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 1: just like they're gonna be so disappointed. They're probably so

305
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 1: proud of that thing. They're like, dude, I added nine eyes,

306
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: ten legs. Two of them are kind of lungs. Oh,

307
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna love this thing. And then they see this

308
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 1: blood factory. You didn't like the tail with eye gou

309
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 1: on its butt. It made it bright blue, so you

310
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 1: would leave the blood alone. Specifically, that was a warning color.

311
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 1: Blue is God's no no color. Yeah. So, pharmaceutical companies

312
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 1: round up around five hundred thousand horseshoe crabs a year,

313
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 1: milk them of their blood, and then return them to

314
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: the ocean, which sounds sustainable, but it's not. You can't

315
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: just bleed an animal for bottles of their blood, chuck

316
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 1: them back in the ocean and expect them to be Okay,

317
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: hell you can't, says spy. There it brings some mind

318
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 1: them just whipping them like skipping stones out into the ocean.

319
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 1: You're free body, just this pale, wheezing horseshoe crab, all motion,

320
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: just sending blue blood like a sprinkler out of it

321
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: the whole time. Please kill me, You're free, go free, Willie,

322
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: whipping it like some ultimate just going for a distance.

323
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: Look upon what we've done to you with nine eyes.

324
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: Tell the others that the humans are the ones in charge. Yeah,

325
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: so this is a problem. The many of these quote

326
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 1: unquote milked horseshoe crabs, which are in fact blood horseshoe crabs,

327
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: will die or not successfully mate, because again, you can't

328
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: just like drain an animal of its blood and expect

329
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: it to be cool. We learned that from Greg. We

330
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: did learn that it was pretty cool ripping peace. Gregg,

331
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: You're too good for this world, and your blood was delicious.

332
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: So there is a solution to this, because we do

333
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: need that those amibo sites. We need that detection to

334
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: be able to make sure our vaccines and medical devices

335
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: are safe and in fact, a horseshoe blood artificial arts

336
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: Jesus A horseshoe blood. Artificial alternative has been invented and

337
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: is in use in Europe, so UH. The problem, however,

338
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: in the US, is that the USP, which is the

339
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: US Pharmacopeia, which is a US based publications guide company

340
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: that sets industry standards for pharmaceuticals UH, decided that the

341
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: artificial version is too untested and does not categorize it

342
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: as an alternative to horseshoe crab blood, and so pharmaceutical

343
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: companies do not want to use the artificial alternative instead.

344
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: So I bet if you follow the money, turns out

345
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: it's probably just cheaper. Yeah, that's yeah, So in the

346
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: long run, it probably wouldn't be right, Like this is

347
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: sort of the This is like the curve of technology.

348
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: Like when you have a new technology, the initial startup

349
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: costs of it is, uh, it's usually more costly. And

350
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to make any claims here

351
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,959
Speaker 1: because I don't know enough about medicine. I'm I'm just

352
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: a simple country gallon, not a horseshoe crab doctor. I'm

353
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: just a humble country podcast. I'm not some kind of

354
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: big blood factory tycoon. But to me, as though, you

355
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't milk blood out of horseshoe crabs. That's just common sense. Yeah,

356
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: So the the I don't know whether like there that

357
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: when they're saying that that the artificial version is not

358
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: tested enough, like they could have a point. I don't know,

359
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: But then we should just test it some more because

360
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: this is clearly not sustainable, like you know, this big

361
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: crab money, This is big crab lobbing, keeping things corrupt.

362
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: They like the old ways here, So I would test it.

363
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: I would jam it up into a milked horseshoe crab,

364
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: asked him how he's feeling is that, I'm not sure

365
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: it's ethical, but I think that would be my first idea.

366
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: Your you should send your resume into the blood factory,

367
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: because that's the kind of crabb kind of initiative they like.

368
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that, you know, I agree, I

369
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: think that, like the monitor, like, we just need to

370
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: make the monetary incentives. They're like, look, you have to

371
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: you have to research this artificial alternative because we cannot

372
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: just keep bleeding literally bleeding the horseshoe crabs dry until

373
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: they all die. Like first of all, I mean, I

374
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: think they're rat even though they've got those extra butt eyes,

375
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: and like also, if we run out of them, then

376
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: we can't do this thing anyway, Like we can't test

377
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: medicine anyway, So we have to switch to something before

378
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: we just kill all the horseshoe crabs. You know what

379
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: it is for me, it's it's the straps in this picture.

380
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: There's this picture, this blood factory assembly line, and they're

381
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: all strapped in with those big black rubber torture straps. Something.

382
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: I just if you ever need like an indicator that

383
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: this isn't kosher, it's when you need to like strapple

384
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: another living thing with those big black rubber jack Ryan

385
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: torture straps. Yeah, I got a bunch of those. Inline

386
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: You've got to stop and think, huh Now, I've never

387
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: seen this beach chill. I've never strapped something. And the

388
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: lab tech like wearing leather with the whip, and you

389
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: know that's a little excessive. There's something about like it's

390
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: not like they're being bled into like fancy vets. It

391
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: like looks like a bunch of like two Leader bottles

392
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: they've taken that it looks delicious. That's why it looks

393
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: like Fanta. Just this is how Fantas made everybody. Fanta'

394
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: is the Brazilian word for crab tragedy. I should kind

395
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: of look like like delicious crab claws, like when you

396
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: get the shell taken off just right, Like can you

397
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: eat a horseshoe crab? I don't think, really, are they good?

398
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't eat shell fish in

399
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: general because I don't trust. It's just they're shifting. I

400
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: don't like them. It sounds like, uh, they're kind of rubbery.

401
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. They don't look like they're good

402
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: super taste, don't look like a good crab. You don't

403
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: make it four or fifty million years. They do come

404
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: with their own bull sort of. That's fun. Yeah, that's nice.

405
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah you get to keep it afterwards, right, you make

406
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: some new pads out of it. These poor freaking crabs,

407
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: Like first we will bleed you at the blood factory,

408
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: and then we will plan to eat you as a

409
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: soup in your own body bowl. And let's clear, it's

410
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 1: not even because you're good. If you're not even tasty,

411
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: you're just here. Ah, we got we gotta protect the

412
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: horseshoe crabs. But yeah, their populations are declining. That is

413
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: not good we gotta, we gotta find a solution so

414
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 1: we can live with the horseshoe crabs in harmony. I'm sorry.

415
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for saying all those terrible things about horseshoe crabs. Apology,

416
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: except they're filthy and disgusting, and now I find out

417
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: we have them to thank for spiders, which is not

418
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: a positive. Well common ancestor, but yeah, but blame blame

419
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: us home, blame I blame them for spiders. I find

420
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: them pretty disgusting. But I don't think blood factory disgusting.

421
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to hang out like this Saturday. I

422
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: don't want to hang out with a bunch of horseshoe crabs.

423
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe I guess I'm opposed to like factory

424
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: line extinction. Yeah, like maybe that's a bit for Like

425
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: if I met a guy and he says, and I said,

426
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: what do you do for work? And he says, oh,

427
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: I make the rubber straps to strap down horse and

428
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: crabs so we can bleed him drying the blood factor,

429
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: I consider punching him in the face for you, Katie,

430
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: for you, Okay, That's what That's what Greg did, and

431
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: we were all cool with that. This is a This

432
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: is a strong I like at this strong campaign like

433
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: that you could make a button out of Like. I

434
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: guess maybe I'm against the blood factories shrug. I'm two

435
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: out of ten in favor of horshe crabs. So, guys,

436
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: I know this little green lizard fellow. You do? Who

437
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: is he? He's Yeah, he's a ski skink. That's a skink. Yep,

438
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: that's a new Guinea Skies skink, skink skin. I was

439
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: right about the new Guinea part. Yeah. No, it's a

440
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: new Guinea skink. That's right. That's a that's astonishing to me.

441
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: So you know a thing. My daughter loves reptiles. We

442
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: read a lot of reptile that's adorable. Love you. Yeah,

443
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: your daughter taught you about the new Guinea skink. That's great.

444
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Do you know why I'm bringing up I'm being so

445
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: like freaking condescending right now. Do you know why I

446
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: brought up the new Guinea skink? Well, Katie, I bet

447
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: he has very silly blood, very silly. Yes, it makes

448
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: a noise when you take it. It's a little slide

449
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: whistle noise when you cut him. Yeah. No, So I

450
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: don't know if I know why I think he has

451
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: a weird like like bacteria in his blood. Okay, so

452
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: they have a weird thing in their blood that should

453
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: kill them, that is what you're thinking of. So New

454
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Guinea lizard blood is a lovely bright green color. It

455
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, zombie blood from some kind of

456
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: b movie. It is ridiculous looking. First, I wanna say

457
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: that I found out most of this stuff from an

458
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: article from one of my favorite science writers and young uh.

459
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: He also writes my favorite science article titles like this one,

460
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: which is these lizards are full of green blood that

461
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: should kill them. Good good title. It is so uh.

462
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: Skinks in the genus Frosinohema have green blood. So they

463
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: live only in New Guinea and the Solomon Islands. One

464
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: of these species is actually called the green blooded skink.

465
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: Just kind of advertising that. I don't like that. That

466
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: feels that feels derogatory. Green blooded skink. That's a car

467
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: sword in a fantasy novel. Yeah. This it's very funny,

468
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: very very funny name. Uh. The this is a slender, green,

469
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: shiny lizard with green blood and organs as well, So

470
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: it's basically green through and through and it is you know,

471
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: so for the horseshoe crab blood. We talked about how

472
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: it's blood is blue because that is oxidized copper, which

473
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, like you got a penny and it oxidizes,

474
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: it kind of turns blue. And our blood is red

475
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: because when it's oxidizes, it is that's like iron rusting,

476
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: that is red. Is it turquoise? Is this one turquoise?

477
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: Does he have turquoise in his blood? No? No, so

478
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: he Uh, it's strange. It has nothing to do with this.

479
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: The skink actually has hemoglobin and red blood cells just

480
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: like humans do, so their blood Bible rights should be red, right, Yeah,

481
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: they're oxiden transport system is iron based, just like ours.

482
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: So why do they have this green blood? Well, the

483
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: ants there is they actually have just get tore up

484
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: and it lasts for the entire year. They are very festive.

485
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Ah yeah yeah they it's just like they drink some

486
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: of that Starbucks, the green stuff, and you know it

487
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: gets right in your blood. It does, so yeah, I know,

488
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: they actually have green zombie blood. So when red blood

489
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: cells die, macrophages get to work. So macrophages are sort

490
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: of like the pac Man of our cells. They eat

491
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: dead cells. Pac Man, Pacman's They are the pac Man's

492
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: of our bodies, and they eat dead cells and recycle

493
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: them for parts, so they're all involved in our immune system.

494
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: They will ingest dangerous intruders as well as our own

495
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: dead cells to kind of break them down so we

496
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: can reuse them for scrap. So we macrophages break down

497
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: a red uh, break down a dead red blood cell.

498
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: They will recycle the iron. And recycling the iron actually

499
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: has like a chemical byproduct called bill of Verdon, which

500
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: is a green toxin. So you can actually see this

501
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: when you get a bruise, Like have you ever had

502
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: a kind of nasty bruise that turns sort of green? Sure? Sure, yeah, yeah.

503
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: I do a lot of a lot of ill advised stunts.

504
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Lizard I turned green, amateur stunt work. I do a

505
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: lot of like stair work, yeah too, falling up stairs, Yeah,

506
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: my favorite for it yet. But sometimes he just stands

507
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: at the top of stairs and says terribly mean things.

508
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: Do people push him? A lot of it's unrelated to

509
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: stunt work. It's my my favorite stunt is a woman

510
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: goes what as she falls down stairs? As that's my

511
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: sort of yeah. So yes, so that that green hue

512
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: you see is actually your red blood cells that were

513
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: destroyed in your stair escapade that are now being recycled

514
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: for their iron. And that byproduct is the Bill of Verden.

515
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: That is that green color, and that will that will

516
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: kill me. That will kill me. Should get that out

517
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Yes, So a high amount of

518
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: that will kill you. So it is toxic, and Bill

519
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: of Verden, you don't really have to worry about it

520
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: when you just get a normal bruise because it is

521
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: filtered by the liver. Oh you're oh did you? Oh no, well,

522
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: actually you know there is something called um green You

523
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: know how there is oh shoot, come on, it's a

524
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: green never well, you know how there's yellow jaundice due

525
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: to the liver not functioning properly. There's actually there's green jaundice. Uh.

526
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: That is also due to the liver not functioning properly. Yeah,

527
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: and yellow jaundice is actually you know how I said,

528
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: like Bill of Verdon, that green stuff is the byproduct

529
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: of the the iron being recycled in your blood. Um

530
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: bill arubin is just a further broken down version of

531
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: Bill of Verdon's So, and that bill ubin is actually yellow.

532
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: So the byproduct goes from green to then yellow. That's

533
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: also why sometimes when you see like your your brewis

534
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: it can go from sort of a green to like

535
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: a yellow color later on. Uh. And so that's also

536
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: the cause of yellow jaundice. So yes, you can't actually

537
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: get green and yellow jaundice, which means your liver isn't

538
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: functioning properly. U. Sometimes like babies will get it because

539
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: their liver is just not like if there's an issue

540
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: and it's not working fast enough. So uh, yeah, that

541
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: it is. It can be bad in humans. And so

542
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: the fact that the lizards are chock full of this

543
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: toxic green blood byproduct is really weird. They fall down

544
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: a lot of stairs. That would be kind of cute though,

545
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: like a little slinky, like a little like it's a slinky.

546
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: It's a little skinky cute. So are the lizards, like

547
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: how are they doing this? Uh, it's not conclusively known.

548
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: We might have solved it today. Yeah, So how they're

549
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: able to survive such high levels of billiard and that

550
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: um green byproduct is not conclusively known. There are some

551
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: theories about why they have this in their blood. Uh.

552
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: So the green blood of these lizards didn't evolve from

553
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 1: a single common ancestor. Instead, there seems to be multiple

554
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 1: times of this evolving in these skinks, in a case

555
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: of parallel evolution, meaning there must have been some very

556
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: strong ecological pressure on these lizards to pump themselves full

557
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: of toxic blood. And the answer pure pressure birds, and

558
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: pure pressure birds mocking them like, yeah, look at us,

559
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: we can fly. It's like, oh yeah, well my blood

560
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: is great. An idiot, make your blood green, stupid. Mine

561
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: was a real guest. I thought it was birds. No,

562
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: well no, well no, so I figured, like a bird

563
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to eat you if you're poisonous, right, like

564
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, like when a when a bug pretends to

565
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: be poisonous and the birds like, oh I don't want

566
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: to eat that snake or whatever. Yeah, I mean that's

567
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: not it's not a bad idea, right, But the answer

568
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I think the issue with that is

569
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: just that is a There are other ways you can

570
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: evade birds, whereas like pumping yourself full of toxic blood. Umbrella,

571
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: it's much better. Just wait, umbrella. Oh right, I see

572
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: what you mean. Certain certain apps certain a right, you

573
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: can docs the birds could yeah, cyberbully, right, So there

574
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: are a lot of techniques you can do against birds,

575
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: but what this blood may have actually evolved in response

576
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: to would be malaria. So a certain species of malaria

577
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: causing single celled Plasmodium is exclusively a parasite for the

578
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: green blooded lizards. And so I'm gonna I'm kind of

579
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: working backwards here. Uh So, the theory is that a

580
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: long time ago, the lizards were coping with pretty bad malaria,

581
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: and these malaria causing parasites were so bad that it

582
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: drove these lizards to toxifying their own blood to get

583
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: the malaria under control over generations of natural selection. Because

584
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: this green blood actually seems to neutralize the the malaria parasite.

585
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: That's that plasmodium that causes malaria, that causes malaria. Yeah,

586
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: and so the fact that the reason that researchers believe

587
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: this is there is actually a species of Plasmodium, this

588
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: little tiny unicellular organism that is such a troublemaker and

589
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: causes malaria. There's this one species that specializes on the

590
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: green blooded lizards and only on them. Now, the reason

591
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: that points towards the green blooded lizards actually evolving this

592
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: blood to try to evade malaria counterintuitively, is that it

593
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: is evidence of an evolutionary arms race. The fact that

594
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: this um parasite had to specialize for the green blood

595
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: meant probably that the parasite and the lizard were trying

596
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: to out maneuver each other when it came to UH

597
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: to infecting the lizard, and so it is one of

598
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: the only like malaria parasites that managed to out evolve

599
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: the lizards toxic blood and continue to be a parasite,

600
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: whereas other malaria causing parasites just couldn't deal with this

601
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: toxic blood. So UH it is it is. It didn't

602
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: even work, all this work for the green blood and

603
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: it still didn't get rid of the malaria. It's still

604
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: worked in the UH in the sense that these lizards

605
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: are still alive, and so they must have survived that

606
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: evolutionary pressure, and like having one species of malaria Plasmodium

607
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: is better than like a bunch of them. I suppose

608
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: poison me, or poison you, poison you all poison you.

609
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: One of the biologists studying these lizards actually calls their

610
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: blood green gold because it is so valuable to understands

611
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: in terms of medicine and evolutionary biology. Let's just hope

612
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: that pharmaceutical companies don't get any weird ideas and start

613
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: doing another blood factory. Yeah, I was gonna say, I

614
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: feel blood factory coming on. Seems like a blood factory.

615
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: My knee caps swelling up. That must mean a blood

616
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: factory is coming into the neighborhood. Since I fell down

617
00:41:50,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: those stairs, I can just send crocodile ized fish, crocodile

618
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: I fish. Everybody get your crocodiles icy cold favorite album.

619
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: We'll just stop bringing up the DARP. That is a

620
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: fair comment to make you. No, I will talk about

621
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: War four more time. Yeah, you probably can't stop talking

622
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: bringing up war because we are going to talk about

623
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: ghosts blood, ghost blood. See, that's my favorite war. That's

624
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: my ghost blood. That's my favorite war. Man, the ghost

625
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: blood man. You know how you got You got Skippy

626
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: and Tangerine and then you got ghost Blood and those

627
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: are the members of the War Carl and Funkadelic you're

628
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: thinking of. Oh yeah, there's there is a lot of

629
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: crossover between those fan bases. Anyways, crocodile ice fish have

630
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: invisible ghost blood. So fantastic. It is so good, right,

631
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: very cool, it's so that I know, it's just so

632
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: good I feel. It makes me feel happy just to

633
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: say that. In fact, I'll say it again. Crocodile ice fish. Wow,

634
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: I messed that up already. Crocodile ice fish have invisible

635
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: ghost blood. Come on, get it together. You an upstair face.

636
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: You won't nine eyes and eight legs, a couple of

637
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: weird leg lungs. Like, well, I'm crocodile. I's fish. I

638
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: can't say it either, and I have ice fish. Crocodile

639
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: ice fish. Yes, So what's a crocodile ice fish? It

640
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: is a family a fish of ray fin fish that

641
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: live in the icy waters of the southern Ocean around

642
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Antarctica in temperatures of around twenty eight degrees fahrenheit or

643
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: negative two point two degrees celsius. And typically they hang

644
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: out on the ocean floor around there. So yeah, So

645
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: these crocodile ice fish are around long, which is fifty

646
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: cimeters or like a subway, right, sort of nice long sandwich.

647
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: They have long, crocodile like mouths, with sharp teeth, large eyes,

648
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: and hilariously small bodies compared to their heads. That's true.

649
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: It is really funny. They do look like bad fish drawings. Yeah,

650
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: they look kind of like if you were drawing a

651
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: fish on a piece of paper, but then you drew

652
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: its head way too big, so you're run out of space,

653
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: so you kind of just fit a little noodle body

654
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: in the corner. It's like you plugged in, uh fish

655
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: that doesn't want to be into one of those AI

656
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: programs that makes really messed up images, like a little

657
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: wombo filters, and it tried to make just a fish

658
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't want to be. Yeah, computer's best stab at

659
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: it depressed fish. Yeah, no exactly. Uh it is. It's

660
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of like it's a fish that is the embodiment

661
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, you're fine, I guess I'll I guess

662
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: i'll fish. I guess I got invisible ghost blood. I

663
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: got big problems here, Yeah, I got I got ghost blood.

664
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: What more do you want for me? Talk to me

665
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: your own blood. They are the haunted Victorian child of

666
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Fish of the Sea. Yes, so they their jaws are

667
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: disproportionately large for their bodies. Their mouth is kind of

668
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: they kind of this like weird duck like mouth. They

669
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: have large fan like fins on their dorsal and ventral sides.

670
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: They're kind of pale and coloration. They have kind of

671
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: a modeled grayish blue or brown and white, and they

672
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: will feed on krill and fish. Sometimes they'll eat fish

673
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: around half their body length, which bold wild move for

674
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: something with the little feeble noodle body in a giant head.

675
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: So they don't eat ghosts. I didn't say that. Science.

676
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: Science put on our show Deep Sea Monsters will prove

677
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: this might explain why Antarctica is not haunted. That's right.

678
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: Another thing here on creature chairs. So their blood is

679
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: in fact transparent. Their blood contains no hemoglobin, no red

680
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: blood cells, and is pure plasma. They are the only

681
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: vertebrate in the world who have no hemoglobin as fully

682
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: mature adults. So it's weird. That's it. I lost something.

683
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, I just said it's weird. That's it and

684
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: a sentence. Sorry. I made it sound like I was

685
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: going to say something else, but no, I was just

686
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: saying it is weird. Period. The podcast gotcha, it is weird.

687
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: You're a weird dude. Yeah, Edgar Edgar the Victorian ghost

688
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: child of the scene. Yeah, Edgar, My blood is Edgar.

689
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: My like a genius muppet designer tried to design him

690
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: uppet that just had everything wrong with him. Most I

691
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: accept your bet to make him uppet that no child

692
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: will love. I can see your dead grandmother and I

693
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: shall eat her and make her part of my ghost blood.

694
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: That's so spooky. It is a public service that they

695
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: eat ghosts. That's great. Who are you going to call

696
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: crocodile ice fish? Because then it eats the ghosts and

697
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: doesn't know this is funny about it just eats them.

698
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: This is a bold evolutionary ploy though, because as we've seen,

699
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: this makes it immune to the blood factory syndrome. Right exactly.

700
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: This is their way of in evading the blood factor,

701
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: because the blood factors like can'ts in your blood here,

702
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: don't don't tell your blood here? You want to wind

703
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: up in a blood factory trying and not have blood?

704
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: That's a thinker, so right? How can they even be

705
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: alive if their blood is just plasma and it doesn't

706
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: have any of those red blood cells because the reason

707
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: we have red blood cells? Can I be honest, I

708
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: don't want to interrupt, but um, I know so little

709
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: about blood that I didn't even think to question that.

710
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: It just seemed just fine to me. I thought hemoglobin

711
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: less blood. Okay, we'll sit down, gall around and let

712
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: me tell you the story of blood. So the reason

713
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: we have red blood just you know, let me tell

714
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: you a tale of blood. Um. So, yeah, we have

715
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: red blood cells which we use to transport oxygen. And

716
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: our red blood cells use an iron molecule. Sorry, let

717
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: me retake that I know about blood. Don't worry. I

718
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: know about blood. Okay. Our blood has harassed by the blood.

719
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: The blood, the blood blood twitter Actually it's iron atoms,

720
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: not iron molecules. But yes, so our blood has iron

721
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: atoms in them, which is wire. Blood is red. And

722
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: remember we talked about those cute, adorable, perfectly designed horseshoe crabs.

723
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: Their blood is blue when exposed to oxygen because the

724
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: copper atoms in their blood. And what happens is our

725
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: iron atoms, or the horseshoe crabs. Copper atoms bind to

726
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: oxygen and they will carry the oxygen with them in

727
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: those blood cells, you know, through our bodies, you know,

728
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: pump it through our heart and wind up in different

729
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: parts of our bodies where it uh you know, leaves

730
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: that oxygen and distributes it throughout our bodies for important

731
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: body things that happen that use oxygen as a component

732
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: in these chemical reactions that our cells need to be alive.

733
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: And this fish says na, and this fish says, don't

734
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: eat it. Nah, it's all right, so right, so yeah,

735
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: like that sounds great for you, buddy, but no, thinks

736
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: I don't need it too cool to have blood. So

737
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: they have plasma. So when you can actually separate human

738
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: plasma from our blood, and it's a lot sometimes it's

739
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: sort of more of a like pale like pinkish orange

740
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: e color, but that's just because I think it's hard

741
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: to separate it out from all of the blood cells.

742
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: But pure plasma is actually more of a clear color.

743
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: So this plasma will still absorb oxygen that's just kind

744
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: of free floating in this plasma, which is not as

745
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: an efficient transportation method as like the red blood cells

746
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: going off and like handing off this package of the oxygen.

747
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: And so they need to have huge hearts, huge veins,

748
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of blood proportional to their body so

749
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: that they can absorb oxygen directly from the blood rather

750
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: than from the red blood cells. It's like if instead

751
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: of having a truck on a highway delivering oranges to

752
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: where they're needed. You just put a bunch of oranges

753
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: sort of on a highway and hope it gets to

754
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: where it needs to go. Their hearts are actually kind

755
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: of spongy so that they can absorb oxygen directly from

756
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: the blood. They also have no scales. They're smooth, and

757
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: so they're able to absorb some oxygen direct lee through

758
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: their skin. And the only reason they can do this without,

759
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, just not just dying because it doesn't seem

760
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: like it should work, is that because they live in

761
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: such icy cold water, oxygen is more soluble in cold water,

762
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: and so there's a greater concentration of oxygen for them

763
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: to draw from. So they're basically just kind of like

764
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: sponges that soak up oxygen from the water and goose

765
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: it around. It's like free for all, giant heart, giant

766
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: veins with a bunch of plasma throughout them. It's a

767
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: little fish with a with a big heart. He's too

768
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: cool to bleed. It's too cool to bleed. Are they tasty?

769
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: Are the ice fish they tasty? I have no idea.

770
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I would risk the mouth haunting. That's true,

771
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: this fishing, it's actually delicious. It's like eating the ancestors

772
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: of a million different ghosts act with layers of ghost flavor.

773
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it is incumbent upon me since this

774
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: is a science podcast to say, like we don't know

775
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: if they do eat ghosts or not, like that has

776
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: not improven yet. Yeah, we haven't observed it in the wild.

777
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: But really just the secondary only in captivity to indicate Yeah,

778
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: all comes razors suggests they're eating all the ghosts and

779
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: no ghosts around right, you see any ghosts? Thank you

780
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: ice fish. Yeah, ghosts don't exist because the ice fish

781
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: did eat them. Yeah, that's the first science I've understood

782
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: in this podcast so far. Yeah, there you go. So

783
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: why would they do this? Why would they turn their ghosts? Sorry,

784
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: why would they turn their blood into ghosts or their

785
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: ghosts in the blood? Oh that's like if you're reverse it,

786
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: it's actually kind of scary, Like if ghosts was blood,

787
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: he turned ghosts into blood, gasp, gasp and aways. The

788
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: reason I turned ghost into blood, the reason they turned

789
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: or they ditched the hemoglobin and they just have plasma

790
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: is that because they're in an oxygen rich environment but

791
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: actually very iron poor environment. Getting rid of the red

792
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: blood cells allowed the fish to conserve iron for other

793
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: nutritional purposes since there was so little iron to be

794
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: spared in their environment. Yeah, blacksmithing mostly little little shows

795
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: and basic tools. If we drop some nails in the

796
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: Arctic ocean, maybe we can give these poor ghost fish

797
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: some blood. It's like, oh, did somebody just drop a

798
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: nail on my head? You're welcome. Yea, Now I got

799
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: ghost blood and a nail through my hand. My body's

800
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: way too small and a barbarious, most depressing cartoon. It's

801
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: a Leven oh Edgard. So not only is their blood transparent,

802
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: but like one of you was just super excited for this,

803
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: it also contains anti freeze proteins. So yeah, proteins that

804
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: prevent the formation of ice crystals inside the fish by

805
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: binding two ice crystals as they begin to form and

806
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: stopping more ice from binding to that crystal. Because you

807
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: know how like ice crystal sort of you have like

808
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: one like sort of ice crystal seed and more crystals

809
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: form off of that and then you start to get

810
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: a bigger ice crystal. Uh. This supports my theory that

811
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: they're delicious because anti freeze tastes good. It's good. I'm

812
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: gonna just I'm just gonna have so many lawsuits, gonna

813
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: use that song you did at the beginning, going to

814
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: get a lawsuits. Shouldn't anti freeze lawsuits? Yeah, it's wonderful,

815
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, don't. Anti freeze is bad for your body,

816
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: but not for these guys. It's gonna drink it. No,

817
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: but really, don't leave any freeze outside because it does

818
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: taste sweet and like dogs eleat it. Don't don't put

819
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: it outside. No, do not keep it covered and stored

820
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: away so that both children and animals do not get

821
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: to it because it's very bad or staying alone. Have

822
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: any fish living in the Arctic fill them with it? Well,

823
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: they already got there, So I don't think you need

824
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: to add more anti freeze to the fish. I mean

825
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: you do have to top it off. Maybe, yeah, maybe

826
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: I just love fish more than you. Uh yeah. They

827
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: also got ghost bones though, So what do you say?

828
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: This is the fish that is closest to a car?

829
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: M m, this is a fish? Car? Is this fish

830
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: more of a hat or a frisbee? Yeah? I can

831
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: how this fishes is a room room car? I can

832
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: see that. Um, if it's the one closest to a car,

833
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: I guess so, I guess so, But I do want

834
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: to say I mentioned that this fish has ghost bones,

835
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 1: and you guys were like, cool, anyways, is this fish

836
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: a car. Yeah, we're on board with the ghostbones. Yeah,

837
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: this is I don't joke on this podcast. I'm not

838
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: messing doing a bit. No, their bones are transparent because

839
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: they're so calcium deficient. Hell yeah, transparent, correct with him

840
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: being like a poor Victorian child of the sea. But

841
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: my blood is made of ghosts and my bones are

842
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: have no calcium. I have glass bones. Like if you

843
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: encountered a ghost skeleton, that's like that's a very advanced creature,

844
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: Like you you need to be a high level party

845
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: too to beat a ghost skeleton. And yeah you're a fish.

846
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, it's because they have no calcium. They suck. Yeah. Yeah,

847
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: once again betrayed by dungeons and dragons. Yeah, I know.

848
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean like these are really kind of like, when

849
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: you think about it, pretty like feeble little again, the

850
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: sickly Victorian child of fish. Just like, my bones are

851
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: see through there, so weak. Please don't breathe on meat

852
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: hurts my bones. Drifting along the bottom, waiting, waiting for

853
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: help is what they do with their whole lives. I've

854
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: been pining on the ocean floor, but by my blood

855
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: is still ghosts. If you x ray these fish, you

856
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: see nothing except the faces of the dead. If you

857
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: x ray these fish, I feel like it would disintegrate them.

858
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: That's how you cook one. That is the best preparation.

859
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: That quick flash from an X ray my bones. You're

860
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: melting my bones. Poof, and a little smoke goes up.

861
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: Poor old fish, And that's how ghosts is born. Wonderful.

862
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: A lot of learning we did on this science podcast,

863
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: arguably too much. I'm never gonna be able to keep

864
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: all that in my head. I'm just gonna go with

865
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: Car of the Sea ghost blood and Greg is delicious.

866
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: Everybody take a little taste of Greg. Yeah, do a

867
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: Greg stand? Thanks Greg? Yeah? No, the blood was great.

868
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: Good job, good job learning about blood with me. But

869
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: before we go, we gotta play a game. And the

870
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: game is called Guess Who's squawking? And what the game

871
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: is is you guess what the animal sound is, what

872
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: kind of animals making it? I'll play the sound, don't worry,

873
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: I'll play it for you and you'll hear it. Oh,

874
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to do it. I thought

875
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: you were gonna No. I mean I've been doing like

876
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: everything you've been hearing, that's been that's been all me, baby, incredible.

877
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: I thought you had a vast sound board. I truly

878
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: am the woman of many voices. No, yeah, so yes.

879
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: The hint from a last wink was does this ring

880
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: a bell? And here is the sound? Okay, well, who

881
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: do you think is hawking DJ skink? Yeah that's a

882
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: bird that definitely ate a skink and it disagrees with

883
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: its tummy. I think it's a DJ that is also

884
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: a skink, and he's here dropping his hot beats. I

885
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: feel like that was just like leading up, really getting

886
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: the crowd pumped, and then like if you would let

887
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: that play two seconds longer, the beat would have dropped. Yeah,

888
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: so that's your guest. I think he's a bellmouthed red booby.

889
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sean, you're so you're so freaking clothes.

890
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh I'm I am dead serious. You think I'm joking

891
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: and just ribbing you for you know, you are so

892
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: freaking clothes. This is the white bell bird. I was close.

893
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: I knew there's gonna be a color and some kind

894
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: of you wouldn't hear that and say like, I'm not

895
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna name that bird like the the cristed No. That.

896
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: I just love that. The naming convention of birds is

897
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: so ridiculous that you can just be like thighs like

898
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: the crested bell, mouthed red booby, and you're like, yeah,

899
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: you're almost there. That's almost You're pretty close. Yes, So

900
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: this is the white bell bird. Congratulations to Joey P,

901
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: Jared M, and Cat H who all correctly guess the

902
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: white bell bird. Many other listeners also correctly guessed it,

903
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: but they were the first three to write in. And

904
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: so white bell birds are one of the loudest birds

905
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: on earth. So male white bellbirds scream at females at

906
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: rock concert levels of loudness. So they look interesting. They're

907
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: kind of they look I mean, they are a white bird,

908
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: but they have this very long gray wattle that hangs

909
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: off of the side of its beak. You know, how

910
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: like turkeys have that wattle. Uh, it is like that,

911
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: but it's the length of his whole body and it

912
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: just like dangles down there. Uh. It's just not sound

913
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: like an appealing bird in appearance. I mean, this is

914
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: how like this long flopping beak, scrotum. What do you think, ladies,

915
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: big way, That is exactly what they do. They like,

916
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: wiggle their their beakscrown them in the female's faces and

917
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: scream at them. And how I met my first eleven wives. Yeah,

918
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: it works, it works, it works. Their calls reach a

919
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five decibels, which is as loud as

920
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: a Jetta and take off a siren or a pneumatic

921
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: drill and right in your face before you have sex,

922
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: right exactly, no, literally, So once the male has actually

923
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: somehow convinced a female to come near him, he'll blast

924
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: a loud note in her face before they mate. And

925
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: while she's reeling from that, right, while she's stunned and

926
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: like station Christ, what are you doing sticking a wing

927
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: in her ear and wiggling it around trying to regain

928
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: her hearing, He's like, anyways, will you marry me? Yeah?

929
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: So that's when I think about being a bird lady.

930
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: I think that seems like a pretty nice life. Like

931
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: all the birds are dancing for you and building you things,

932
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: and they're just trying to impress you all day long.

933
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: You just pick the best one. But this seems awful

934
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: imagine if they have to be in like the same

935
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: jungle as those nice dancing birds and the birds that

936
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: build houses, and they have to just look at them,

937
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: and we're can you try that, Henry? Can you please

938
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: like try building me a house or doing like a dance?

939
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: Have a better ideas? Screaming in my face until I

940
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: die from it? Okay, knocks back a belt of Scotch.

941
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: Just yeah, well, Henry's made out of He yells. He

942
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: yells real loud, and that's why I love Yeah. Oh,

943
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: you can do so much better. Female white billbirds. Yeah,

944
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: go for another bird, start a new bird. Uh. So

945
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: this week's mystery animal sound, the hint is this isn't

946
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: a cat, it's not a dog, and despite that smell,

947
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: it's not a skunk. Mm hmm. Alright, So who do

948
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: you think is clocking? Frog probe? What? Frog probe? A

949
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: frog probe a frog like this? The probe the probe

950
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: that the frog send out when they're like not certain

951
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: about something. Frog probe. Yeah, like a frog detective, like

952
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: a frog submarine. Oh, like I see a frog Okay,

953
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: like a frog sonar, like a like a like a

954
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: Nissan probe, but a frog probe I was gonna say

955
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: Toad submarine, so I could submarine. Yeah, it's the same.

956
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: We got frog Probe and we got Toad submarine. Those

957
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: are the answers to beat listeners. Those are the answers

958
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: Thomasin's white belted frog Probe. Oh my god, you got it?

959
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: How did you know? Actually, I'm sorry, that's wrong. It's

960
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: Thomas's crested frog Probe. I always get him mixed. Yeah,

961
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: I'll too bad for you. Anyways, if you think you

962
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: know what is making that sound, you can write to

963
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: me at Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com and

964
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: I will reveal the answer to you next Wednesday. Sean Brockway,

965
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on to this Bloodcast

966
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: Pleasure Bood, blood Cast, blood Gast. Yeah. Thanks for having us,

967
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: And if you, for some reason what more from us.

968
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: We can be found at our own podcast, The Dog's

969
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: Own nine thousand. They will be at the Blood Factory

970
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: shutting out Blood where we are starting a blood factory

971
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: and we could use some crowdsourced help a fresh blood

972
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: from the blood cows. We do a lot of Joni

973
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: Mitchell song parodies, a lot of crowd pleasers like that.

974
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: We can be found on dog dot com and and

975
01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: we contain a lot of greg Yeah, full of greggy

976
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: goodness talk full of that wholesome greggy goodness. Well, thank

977
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: you guys so much for listening. Uh. You can find

978
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: me online a Creature Feature pod on Instagram, a Creature

979
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: feet pot on Twitter. Uh. You if you are enjoying

980
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: the show, you like you like blood, If you like Blood,

981
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: you can leave me a rating and review and be like, hey,

982
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: I like Blood. You know, as your review just be

983
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: like five bloods up. Blood is great. I like Blood.

984
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: Uh and yeah, and thank you so much to the

985
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: Space Classics for their super awesome song excell Alumina. Creature

986
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: Feature is a production of I Heart Radio. For more

987
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: podcasts like the one you just heard, visit the I

988
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: heart Radio app Apple Podcasts, or where don't we get

989
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: your Blood or podcasts Bloodcasts, Blood Fame Place, See you

990
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: next Wednesday Podcast