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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: Thursday edition of the program. We are live in DC

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Speaker 2: ahead of the show. We appreciate all of you listening

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Speaker 2: That Jim Jordan would remain Speaker designee until potentially January.

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Speaker 2: That is a mess. Uh, Sidney Powell has pled guilty.

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Speaker 2: She is now going to be testifying against Trump. What

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Speaker 2: do we think about that? We talked about the swing

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Speaker 2: state polls coming out from Bloomberg and Morning Consult today,

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Speaker 2: five of which Trump is in the lead. In Michigan

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Speaker 2: is a push the only one that Biden leads in.

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Speaker 2: These are the seven most competitive states. Nevada, eight percent

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Speaker 2: mortgage rates, RFK, Junior Carnel West, third party candidates in general.

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Speaker 2: All of that that we have talked about, but we

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Speaker 2: want to reiterate here that there are now stories coming

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Speaker 2: out as Israel prepares to invade in Gaza, no one's

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Speaker 2: talking about the hostages. I want to play this again

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Speaker 2: for everyone out there. Cut three from Joe Biden on

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Speaker 2: Air Force One. He goes into Israel, buck he doesn't

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Speaker 2: demand the release of American citizens. He doesn't make an

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Speaker 2: argument about the moral imperative of that necessity. Instead, he says, hey,

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure that we get humanitarian aid

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Speaker 2: into Gaza. This is cut three we took off.

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Speaker 3: My goal was multipola, basically to get humanitarian age into Gasha,

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Speaker 3: into and getting his video Americans out on the get

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Speaker 3: out could get out as possible, and so we got.

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Speaker 4: A commitment as you know from the from Israelis, including

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Speaker 4: their Benarist of their or cabinet and the turnments. And

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Speaker 4: the second thing was that I wanted to make sure

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Speaker 4: there was a vehicle mechanism that this can happen quickly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So again I blame Biden, certainly, but also the

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Speaker 2: American media for not focusing on the hostages and the

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Speaker 2: fact that we still don't know exactly. I think there

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Speaker 2: are thirty deaths that have been attributed so far to

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Speaker 2: American citizens from the Hamas terror attack, and I believe

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Speaker 2: there's still fourteen or fifteen Americans that are unaccounted for,

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Speaker 2: and the expectation is that many of them would be

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Speaker 2: part of the hostages. Around two hundred hostages that are

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Speaker 2: still being held by Hamas, and a lot of those

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Speaker 2: people are kids. And buck we talked about this last hour.

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Speaker 2: I think I'll just ask all of you out there listening,

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Speaker 2: including many media members who'd listened to this program, compare

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Speaker 2: the amount of attention that Britney Griner, who was arrested

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Speaker 2: for violating Russian drug laws and never claimed that she

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Speaker 2: did not violate Russian drug laws, the amount of attention

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Speaker 2: that she got while being held hostage by Russia, compared

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Speaker 2: to the amount of attention from a media perspective that

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Speaker 2: every American hostage in Hamas has gotten. There's no comparison.

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Speaker 2: Brittany Griner got way more attention for violating Russian drug

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Speaker 2: law and being put in prison than these innocent American hostages,

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Speaker 2: many of them were kids, are getting right well. She

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Speaker 2: was also never in danger of execution at all or

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Speaker 2: being hit in an errant bomb strike, so very different

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Speaker 2: on a number of levels. I would just say clay.

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Speaker 2: In this instance, there may be special operations activities going

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Speaker 2: on behind the scenes with regard to the hostages that

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Speaker 2: kind of action that is best kept under wraps and

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Speaker 2: kept highly classified. So they're certainly trying to find where

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Speaker 2: these hostages are in Gaza. These and between the intelligence

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Speaker 2: resources that we can both bring to bear, it's considerable.

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Speaker 2: Now that's said, Gaza is, as everyone will point out,

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Speaker 2: very densely populated, and it's their home turf, so they're

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Speaker 2: much we have eyes in the sky and you know,

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Speaker 2: and ears in the air. So we'll have to continue

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Speaker 2: to see if there's any movement on the negotiations here.

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Speaker 2: But this is why I think for a lot of

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Speaker 2: people the framing of this should be we have not

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Speaker 2: only our ally Israel about to go to war. We

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Speaker 2: have Americans who are still very much in harms way,

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Speaker 2: they get their way. The Israelis don't do that. The

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Speaker 2: afford them basic rights in Geneva Convention, etc. They do

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Speaker 2: Murray we played his SoundBite yesterday about proportionality, it seems

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Speaker 2: debate over is what Israel's doing. Proportional Hamas just killed

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Speaker 2: almost a tiny percentage of whom are actual combatants. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was not a military operation. It was just go

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Speaker 2: and murder as many people as you possibly because they're Jewish.

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Speaker 2: And now we're supposed to sit around and get lectures

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Speaker 2: from the UN and the international community about how Israel

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Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. As we know, Israel

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Speaker 2: the entirety of Gaza if it's and there's nothing that

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Speaker 2: tel Aviv would already be rubble. There is no moral

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Speaker 2: equivalency here. And that's why seeing the the viciousness on

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Speaker 2: the rest of this, Rashida t Lee being the crazy

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Speaker 2: right from wrong, good from evil. Let's play cut seven here.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Rashida Talib. It is a lie that Israel

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Speaker 2: was involved, according to all of the evidence that is

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Speaker 2: out there, that Israel bombed a Gaza hospital. President Biden,

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Speaker 2: the the entire intelligence apparatus in Israel and the United States,

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Speaker 2: European intelligence agencies, all of them are saying this was

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Speaker 2: an errant rocket being fired at Israel, that instead, by

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Speaker 2: the way, it hit a parking lot, not the actual hospital,

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Speaker 2: and the tally. Despite the fact that about everybody in

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Speaker 2: the American media quoted Hamas as if they were being

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Speaker 2: it was somewhere around ten to twenty now according to

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Speaker 2: many reports that were actually killed by this rocket. But

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Speaker 2: here's Rashida's leab lying, crying and helping to instigate a

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Speaker 5: Listen, do you need to watch people think it's okay

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Speaker 5: to Obama hospital with children? You know what's so hard

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Speaker 5: sometimes is watching those videos and the people telling the

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Speaker 5: kids don't cry, and like let them cry, and they're

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Speaker 1: They could current. I con cur We all con curd.

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Speaker 2: If we're not crying, something is wrong.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm telling you right now doesn't invited.

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Speaker 1: America's with you on this one, and you need to

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Speaker 2: Okay, why would she not be impeached? Well, if you

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Speaker 2: care about the truth, she is clearly lying and instagra

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Speaker 2: instigating uh further perpetrations of violence against American and Israeli

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Speaker 2: citizens because of the lies that she's spreading while trying

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Speaker 2: because the Democrat Party, that party is frightened of the

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Speaker 2: backlash from the far left Marxist pro Palestinian pro Hamas lunatics,

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Speaker 2: Uh in the In that situation, I would just wonder

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Speaker 2: Where is the video of Rashida to leave you know

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Speaker 2: her emotions for the Palestinians. Yeah, there are children who

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Speaker 2: and it is a deeply sad situation, and a lot

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Speaker 2: to try to alleviate that. I would want to know

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Speaker 2: where are her tears for the Israeli children who were

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Speaker 2: about the fourteen hundred Israelis who were just brutally murdered.

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Speaker 2: It was not a war, it was a terrorist sneak attack.

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Speaker 2: Why isn't she crying for them? Why does she only

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Speaker 2: have tears for Palestinians. If you're going to go the

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Speaker 2: Then it shouldn't be about what flag they serve under

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Speaker 2: the fraudulence of this comes in. These people that are saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: but what about the Palestinian children? What about the Palestinian children?

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Speaker 2: You say, what about the Israeli children, Not the Israelis overall,

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Speaker 2: What does that mean. There's a lot of other people

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Speaker 2: All right. So we mentioned that Sidney Powell, who was

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Speaker 2: very involved in twenty twenty post election Conversations litigation. She

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Speaker 7: This is a major breakthrough for prosecutors, potentially a devastating

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Speaker 2: I don't don't think so. Yeah, exactly, if you want

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show here at

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Speaker 2: We're just up the road from the Capitol now by

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Speaker 2: I think the jan sixth case, it's all about it.

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Speaker 2: But that New York City case, I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 2: open and shut, right, that one where he thirty thirty

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Speaker 2: counts of a clerical error or something in the payment,

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Speaker 2: charging the crime that I think has has never been

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Speaker 2: charged before. You know, they're trying to bootstrap state law

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Speaker 2: with a which they still haven't really explained very well

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Speaker 2: even how they're doing that. Oh they haven't. That's another

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Speaker 2: one where I just think, purely on legal grounds, I

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Speaker 2: don't even know how that goes to it. So you

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Speaker 2: think Trump will be able to basically bulldoze through all

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Speaker 2: these and get to the election, Well, I know what

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Speaker 2: I wan my response to Clay what I what I

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Speaker 2: mean to say, is is that I just think in

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Speaker 2: terms of having these trials we're looking at, particularly those

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Speaker 2: federal cases, these are big time, lengthy trials, a lot

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Speaker 2: of argument. I don't know how you get through all

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Speaker 2: of those between I mean, it's it's October now, yeah, free,

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Speaker 2: they're not even proposing to start until next year. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna get oh but yeah. So what I mean isn't

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Speaker 2: isn't that Trump is going to see them all through

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Speaker 2: and win them all. It's just that this isn't really

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Speaker 2: going to stop him from doing what he's doing running

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Speaker 2: and you know, and it may even backfire on the

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Speaker 2: Democrats that they brought all this fire. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: it'll backfired. I don't think it'll be resolved by Nixon November.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Supreme Court will get involved at all?

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Speaker 2: Or you were again you were a Supreme Court clerk,

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Speaker 2: or do you think they're so concerned because it's Trump

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Speaker 2: that even though there may be a legal argument very strong,

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Speaker 2: which I think there is, that they'll just try to

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Speaker 2: sidestep it because three of them are Trump appointees and

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Speaker 2: they're worried about the institutional attack that might happen. I

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Speaker 2: think they won't want to get involved because they won't

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Speaker 2: want to get drawn into it. You know, Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: justices are very sort of conflict averse as we've seen.

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Speaker 2: But I have to say that, you know, it's going

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Speaker 2: to be hard, particularly on that jan six case, because

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Speaker 2: it is so speech based. Yeah, you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: that Trump people will appeal that all the way up

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Speaker 2: to the top. And you know, if it gets to

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Speaker 2: them and Trump has lost at the lower court, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think they'd probably be pretty hard pressed not to

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Speaker 2: take it. Yeah, because it's I mean, it's an important

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Speaker 2: president right right. In other cases involving presidents Nixon, you know,

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Speaker 2: have gone to this Supreme Court before, So you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that's possible. Can we you're a senator, you know,

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Speaker 2: but Congress next door, you know those guys too. Can

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Speaker 2: we throw you in the middle of the food fight

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Speaker 2: here and just tell us what are the Republicans doing? Now?

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Speaker 2: We're going to have a speaker pro temp for a

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Speaker 2: while because people you know, won't even on the Republican side.

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Speaker 2: Face it looks like the grand strategy was no strategy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm not a fan of the pro tem thing. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I'll just say I'm not a member of the House.

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Speaker 2: I never have been, so I don't know the House

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Speaker 2: and I wouldn't tell them how to vote. But as

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Speaker 2: a as a senator, I just say, we need the House.

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Speaker 2: Republicans have a majority in the House. We need it

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Speaker 2: to function, the country needs it to function. We need

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Speaker 2: it to do oversight on Biden. We need it to

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Speaker 2: actually stop the Biden agenda. And we needed to. This's

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Speaker 2: the only part of the government where we have a

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Speaker 2: chance to actually put something forward the border for instance.

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Speaker 2: Senate will never move a border bill. Never. We got

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Speaker 2: to have the House. So I just plead with my

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Speaker 2: counterparts over there, you know, just choose somebody, please and

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Speaker 2: make it permanent. And how we're looking for the Senate

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Speaker 2: in your mind for twenty four, oh should win it.

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Speaker 2: If we can't win the Senate in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: then Republicans don't deserve to be in the majority ever. Again,

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Speaker 2: I mean we are. We have a map where the

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Speaker 2: Dems have twice as many seats that they have to

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Speaker 2: defend as us, very favorable to us. We've got to

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Speaker 2: go out there, though, Senators, Senate Republicans and make an

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Speaker 2: argument and talk about what we're going to do. And

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Speaker 2: I think last time around this was a decision by

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Speaker 2: our leadership, which is a huge mistake. It was, oh,

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Speaker 2: let's go out and just say we're not for anything.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about anything. We'll just say

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Speaker 2: that Biden sucks. Well, everybody knows Biden sucks. But you

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Speaker 2: got to go out and tell the voters what are

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Speaker 2: you going to do for them? And we didn't do that,

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Speaker 2: and here we are. You just had a hearing, and

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Speaker 2: I want to thank you for doing it. You held

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Speaker 2: the NCAA president's feet to his fire over this ridiculousness

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Speaker 2: of if a guy decides that he's a girl, they

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Speaker 2: have to share locker rooms. Men are changing alongside of women.

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Speaker 2: You're a sport like you grew up a sportsman. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Would you have ever believed that the entire Democrat party

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Speaker 2: would believe that a man who pretends to be a

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Speaker 2: woman should be able to win a women's championship? And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you saw this book Maxim's Hot one hundred. Remember

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Speaker 2: that used to be a big deal. One hundred best

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Speaker 2: looking women out there. You might remember some of you.

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Speaker 2: I had a friend who had it one. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: just named a man as one of the hundred best

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Speaker 2: looking women in America. And I just I look at that.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, there weren't a hundred good looking women. So

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Speaker 2: what's going on there?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 2: Where? How have we gotten here? And for people who

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Speaker 2: didn't hear that conversation, what were you told? How did

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Speaker 2: that happen? Well, here's what I said. I said to

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Speaker 2: the NCAA president, Charlie Bakers's name, Now, I just said

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Speaker 2: to him, listen, you made Riley Gaines and a bunch

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Speaker 2: of other female athletes have a man in their locker room.

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Speaker 2: You didn't tell them beforehand, you didn't ask them, and

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Speaker 2: you didn't get their consent, You didn't try to get it,

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Speaker 2: and you certainly didn't obtain their consent. Do you what

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Speaker 2: do you say about that's at your policy? And he

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Speaker 2: hemmed and hawed and finally said, well that that's based

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Speaker 2: not I'll see, And then he said, well he wasn't sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Now come on, this is not a stupid guy. By

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Speaker 2: the way, as if he doesn't know, he knows, So

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Speaker 2: he needs to come clean and say what it is.

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Speaker 2: And here's what I would say, Clay is that he

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Speaker 2: knows and the rest of the NCAA know how unbelievably

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Speaker 2: stupid and wrong it sounds to say, yeah, biological men

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Speaker 2: ought to be in women's locker rooms and the women

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Speaker 2: should just have to take it. Nobody in the right

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Speaker 2: mind thinks that's right. Yep. So, but they did it,

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Speaker 2: and now they don't want to talk about it. They

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Speaker 2: certainly don't want to apologize for it. And so here

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Speaker 2: we are to your question about my Democrat colleagues. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, not a one of them, not a one

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Speaker 2: of them, has stood up and said this is wrong,

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Speaker 2: this is crazy. And my question is what happened to

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Speaker 2: women's right? But do they Do you think they know

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Speaker 2: that it's wrong and crazy and they're just cowards, or

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Speaker 2: do you think they've actually bought this non sensey fifty?

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Speaker 2: I think a number of them actually believe it. I

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Speaker 2: think they are absolutely a trend's woman is a woman

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent, there's no difference, you know. But I

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Speaker 2: think others are like, no, this is nuts, but they

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Speaker 2: just feel they can't speak out because they will get

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Speaker 2: jammed by their radical base, who really controls them. More

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Speaker 2: and more. It's a tiny segment of their party, and

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Speaker 2: yet that's who they that's who they count out to.

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Speaker 2: Last question for you, I think you're a huge Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs Yeah, oh yeah, where's this going? Fuck? Everybody

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Speaker 2: out there listening has seen this Travis Kelcey Taylor Swift relationship.

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Speaker 2: Your team has won two Super Bowls. As you sit here,

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Speaker 2: are you concerned that Taylor Swift could be the Yoko

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Speaker 2: Ono of the Kansas City Chiefs dynasty bringing down everything?

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Speaker 2: And what's it like to be a Chiefs fan sitting

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Speaker 2: wanting to watch your favorite team and they just keep

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Speaker 2: showing this pop star on television all day long? Do

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Speaker 2: you think it's I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If your wife is a Taylor Swift fan, I have

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Speaker 2: no idea. Does it make her more likely to watch

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Speaker 2: as a fan or you just like, all I care

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Speaker 2: about is the game itself. Well, I was. I'm in

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Speaker 2: the latter category. Yeah, But I will say that my

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Speaker 2: think Taylor was at that game. You're right, wife was

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Speaker 2: with me, Yeah, And we're sitting there and she said.

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Speaker 2: At one point, I had looked down for a minute

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Speaker 2: so listen, I will just say I am for whatever

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Speaker 2: I think we can do it, and I'm for whatever

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Speaker 2: So I don't know that as well, we might as

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Speaker 2: well just start playing Taylor Swift as our theme song

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Speaker 2: at this point, like, we might as well just go

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Speaker 2: those scoot scooters and and you just fly around town.

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Speaker 2: You hope you do not get hit by any traffic,

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Speaker 2: and it's a lot of fun. So the question is,

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Speaker 2: are you gonna join me on a scooter tour? No,

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Speaker 2: Clay refuses the scooter. I'm just gonna tell everybody right

648
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Speaker 2: now the offer has been made. But he is too

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Speaker 2: cool for scooter. It's not only that I that I

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Speaker 2: think I'm too cool for a scooter. That is certainly true.

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Speaker 2: It's also that DC traffic can be a bit of

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Speaker 2: a mess. Well, you get the traffic circles, which feels

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Speaker 2: very nobody. Nobody has any idea. I lived up here

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Speaker 2: Washington Circle. Nobody ever had any idea how to drive around.

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Speaker 2: How you enter traffic circle. You're supposed to just count

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Speaker 2: to three, close your eyes, and hit the accelerator. That well,

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Speaker 2: I always think, I'm kidding. Don't do that, It's dangerous.

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Speaker 2: I always like to make the joke to my wife

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Speaker 2: whenever we go around one of those traffic circles. Hey, look, kids,

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Speaker 2: big Ben if you remember the original, I think it

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Speaker 2: was European vacation. I guess where Chevy Chase's character gets

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Speaker 2: caught in the traffic circle. It just keeps going around

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Speaker 2: and around again because it can't get back out. But

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Speaker 2: we've been look. I will say this, This studio that

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Speaker 2: we have up here is fantastic and one of four

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Speaker 2: point seven Freedom One of four point seven are new

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Speaker 2: station here in DC. We really want to grow this

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Speaker 2: and get a lot of people who are making their

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Speaker 2: way into the DC area every day. You know the Beltway.

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Speaker 2: I was a Beltway commuter, so I know I know

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Speaker 2: the deal. A great thing to do is to listen,

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Speaker 2: and I know that people also can listen to on

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Speaker 2: the podcast when it's later on drive time in the day.

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Speaker 2: So we're hoping we get people to tune in in

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Speaker 2: the DC area because you know, there is a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff going on here. Yeah, when the trial starts

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Speaker 2: in theory, if they have it in March. Here in

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Speaker 2: d C. I think we're going to be back up

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Speaker 2: using this studio some to be able to talk to people.

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Speaker 2: And look, we love having people on via phone, but

681
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Speaker 2: yesterday Ted Cruz comes by. You just heard Senator Josh Holly.

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Speaker 2: People can make the trip up here. Whenever we get

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Speaker 2: a resolution with what exactly is going to go on

684
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Speaker 2: with the speaker, we'll be able to figure that out.

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Speaker 2: Now it looks like it's going to go on into January,

686
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Speaker 2: but no one has no one has yet been able

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Speaker 2: to tell us, including different you know, congressional staff and

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Speaker 2: a Republican staff, et cetera. What exactly is this whole

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Speaker 2: speaker fight about at this point now, and people are

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Speaker 2: looking for greater meaning and all this. Yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you, nobody here in DC seems to think there's

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Speaker 2: greater meanings. So it just looks like a squabble. We

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Speaker 2: had a lot of people come in into the studio

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Speaker 2: yesterday to meet, and we had outside of studio comps

695
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Speaker 2: and we just kept asking, hey, is this a part

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Speaker 2: of a grand strategic chess move. Not one person has

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Speaker 2: been able to explain what anyone is doing in the

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Speaker 2: House as it pertains to the speaker battle. Now, do

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Speaker 2: you have friends who argue that the best thing that

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Speaker 2: government can do is generally gorid luck? So maybe if

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Speaker 2: you're looking for a silver lining, that might be it.

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Speaker 2: But I'd rather as not gridlock. The only place in

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Speaker 2: government right now where we have an elected majority. You know,

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Speaker 2: gridlock in the Senate to me right now sounds great.

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Speaker 2: Goridlock in the House not so much. But you know

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Speaker 2: there's time to change these things. Play. I'm starting to

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Speaker 2: feel more optimistic about twenty twenty four. I'm not yet

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Speaker 2: throwing a party, but I'm optimistic. I agree. Tomorrow Friday edition,

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Speaker 2: we'll try to have some fun. Send you into the

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Speaker 2: weekend on a good note up here from DC. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to all the guests, and thanks to all of you.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you then,