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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in Watch Right with Nick Wright episode two eighty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and I actually oddly have some Daniel Jones news that

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't been reported elsewhere that somehow came across my desk

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<v Speaker 2>that we will get into momentarily. But for Demons, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the last pod before Thanksgiving, which means for sports media

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<v Speaker 2>consumers across America, you get served up this week some

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<v Speaker 2>of the absolute worst, laziest, most banal content there is,

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<v Speaker 2>which is all you a sweet potato pie or a

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<v Speaker 2>pumpkin pie? Guy, let's draft the side dishes. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what's not great? Turkey nobody eats it except for on

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving all the same. You call it stuffing or what

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<v Speaker 2>do you what do you guys call it? Or dressing?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do like the So are you you

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<v Speaker 2>eat at one o'clock or four o'clock? When do you

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<v Speaker 2>take your nap? All it has been rinse and repeat

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<v Speaker 2>since the begin since the first sports radio Mike was

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<v Speaker 2>cracked on WFAN forty years ago that people were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what America wants During one of the busiest

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<v Speaker 2>sports week of the year college football rivalry games, Thanksgiving Football,

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA is going all of it. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>they want to hear. So you like the cranberry stuffing

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<v Speaker 2>that shaped as a can or the actual authentic Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>wants to hear it, and every I guarant it is terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's and you're gonna see it on every pod but

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<v Speaker 2>this one. My tradition is every year during this show,

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<v Speaker 2>making fun of that thematic that exists across the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Put this on the internet. Please, all right, here's what

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<v Speaker 2>missed the cut. I told you guys, Tommy DeVito was problematic.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that him and his agent having the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing be Hey, guess what it's funny that we're

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<v Speaker 2>Italian was gonna come back and bite us, and by

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<v Speaker 2>us I mean US Italians. And now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>Baker Mayfield, who I love but is about as waspy

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<v Speaker 2>as it gets, is out there doing the a baison,

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<v Speaker 2>which again a little appropriation. Baker, you're my guy, but

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<v Speaker 2>don't love it. Dallas, are they a playoff contender? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers banned from the show. Did I ban him

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<v Speaker 2>from the show? Maybe? I'm not sure, Okay, I banned

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<v Speaker 2>him from the show. All right, before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>Monday night football demons some news, Yeah, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anyone else has, So this is

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<v Speaker 2>impeccably sourced. However, I totally understand if people hear this

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, what are you kidding me? Like, since Win, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>are you a newsbreaker? And if you are a newsbreaker,

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<v Speaker 2>since Win doesn't have to do with Daniel Jones. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is just gonna have to be something you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>trust me on or you don't. The it's the information's free.

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<v Speaker 2>So a bunch of teams inquired about Daniel Jones, including

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders, who not only inquired but basically said like,

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<v Speaker 2>hey man, you can start for us almost immediately because

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<v Speaker 2>Gardner broke his collar bone. He said no, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>to that. And by the way, I think that is

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<v Speaker 2>smart by Daniel Jones. I don't think playing for a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible team, a new game plan, new offense, all of

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<v Speaker 2>that will help him. So he has narrowed it down

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<v Speaker 2>to four teams. All four of these teams would sign him,

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<v Speaker 2>so it truly is his choice. The teams are Baltimore, Miami, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>and San Francisco. Now, from what I understand, there are

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<v Speaker 2>people I guess what's the verbiage people use in his

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<v Speaker 2>camp that want him to go to Baltimore he would

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<v Speaker 2>prefer or is leaning towards San Francisco or Minnesota. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the report, and Miami is there as well as a

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<v Speaker 2>possibility the So that's the reporting. That's the news. And

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<v Speaker 2>if that has been by the way, i'ven't scoured Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>the last ninety minutes. If that has been reported elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>then credit to those people. But this is my own.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, about twice a year I put on my

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<v Speaker 2>reporter hat uh and this one I didn't really I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really even.

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<v Speaker 3>Have basically free huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, it'll be for the league minimum or close to it,

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<v Speaker 2>right for the rest of the year. So the arguments

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<v Speaker 2>for the teams would be quickly. Baltimore would be if

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<v Speaker 2>something were to happen to Lamar a kind of power

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<v Speaker 2>running quarterback offense with Derrick Henry. He knows how to

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<v Speaker 2>run that. The argument for Miami is they almost if

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<v Speaker 2>he comported himself well over the final part of this season,

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<v Speaker 2>they almost assuredly would bring him back next year because

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<v Speaker 2>their backup quarterback situation has been such a disaster. The

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<v Speaker 2>argument for Minnesota is is Sam Donald banged up? Might

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<v Speaker 2>you actually get to play? And even if you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin O'Connell has said great things about him, and we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen what Kevin O'Connell has done for Sam Donald. The

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<v Speaker 2>argument for San Francisco and this is if I were

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<v Speaker 2>talking to Daniel Jones, where I would tell him to

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<v Speaker 2>go is brock Perty shoulder might be messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>There's now reporting he has had two different MRIs. They've

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<v Speaker 2>been very You can never trust the Niners about injuries

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<v Speaker 2>because they told us Christian McCaffrey was probable for Week one,

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<v Speaker 2>then he missed ten weeks and the and the Achilles

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<v Speaker 2>ten tonight has spread from one leg to another like

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<v Speaker 2>a fungus. And so when the Niners are like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not sure about Purty should be better, he's throwing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would personally say to Daniel Jones San Francisco, Miami, Minnesota, Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 2>because if I were him, I would want to go

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere with a great offensive minded head coach, legitimate weapons,

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<v Speaker 2>a passable if not better, offensive line, and a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to play. And those three play San Francisco. The quarterback's

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<v Speaker 2>already hurt. Minnesota, the quarter you know they're the Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing about Minnesota is this real quick before

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<v Speaker 2>I move on. They expect Darnold to get a legitimate,

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<v Speaker 2>real contract from someone next year. They're obviously invested in

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<v Speaker 2>JJ McCarthy, so they Minnesota won't be signing JJ McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 2>but JJ McCarthy will essentially be a rookie coming off

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<v Speaker 2>multiple knee surgeries, so Daniel Jones might be able to

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<v Speaker 2>play for them next season. The argument for Miami is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a sad one, which is Miami's backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>is on alert at all times because of too a situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I again people in his camp for reasons I

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<v Speaker 2>don't totally understand think Baltimore is the best option. I

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<v Speaker 2>think those other three places are better options. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be one of those four. San Francisco, Minnesota, Miami, Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I end up being wrong, I'm retiring from

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<v Speaker 2>the Daniel Jones beat forever. But I think I've got

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<v Speaker 2>this one buttoned up. Take that Adam Schefter. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>got nothing to get shifty, but yeah, so there it is.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's your news off the top of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's get to the news everyone knows. Monday night football,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>So Lamar Jackson balled out against the Chargers last night.

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<v Speaker 3>They came out with a dub. I think they scored

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<v Speaker 3>the most points on that Chargers defense in anybody this season.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure. That Chargers evens was allowing fourteen a game.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the number one scoring defense in football. They

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<v Speaker 2>scored thirty. It was definitely the most Stay've allowed all year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, when they're a drop thirty. But somehow I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you're gonna say this doesn't mean anything. Did this

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<v Speaker 3>game show you anything about Lamar? Do you have any

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts on.

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<v Speaker 2>It well, so I'm not gonna say it doesn't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually a super important game for Baltimore. So

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<v Speaker 2>here's why it was important. The if Baltimore had lost

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<v Speaker 2>this game, not only would their chances of getting the

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<v Speaker 2>winning the division be hurt, but if they don't win

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<v Speaker 2>the division, their chance of being the top wild card

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<v Speaker 2>would have been crippled. Because if they lose this game,

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<v Speaker 2>and then of course the Chargers win it, the Chargers

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<v Speaker 2>get to eight and three, the Ravens drop to seven

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<v Speaker 2>and five, and the Chargers have the tiebreaker. So the

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens would you know, they have to finish with a

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<v Speaker 2>better record than the Chargers. Why does that matter? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>The difference between the five and the sixth seed is enormous.

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<v Speaker 2>The five seed gets to go to Houston almost assuredly,

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<v Speaker 2>and Houston right now is a wounded animal. The offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line is cooked. CJ. Stroud, Oh, you want to know

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<v Speaker 2>a you want to know a fun little fact, Demonsey

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be featured on the television show today. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not the topic. But as far as wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>be the five seed and getting Houston, remember how CJ

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<v Speaker 2>after Week two put his arm around Caleb Williams and

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<v Speaker 2>was like, let me, let me teach you something, young fella.

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<v Speaker 2>Since then CJ Stroud eleven touchdowns, nine picks, an eighty

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<v Speaker 2>three rating, two hundred and thirty eight yards per game.

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<v Speaker 2>Since then, Caleb Williams eleven touchdowns, three picks, a ninety

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<v Speaker 2>two rating, two hundred and thirty two yards per game. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>has the student become the teacher so fast? My friend

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<v Speaker 2>is either here, okay, I'm just telling you. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>telling you facts or facts. Maybe maybe you know as

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<v Speaker 2>the as the wise man once set two years one

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<v Speaker 2>mouth for a reason. Maybe a little more listening, a

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<v Speaker 2>little less advice giving, CJ. But that's either here nor there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you want, if you're gonna be a wild card,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be the five. So at both lost,

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<v Speaker 2>not only would their chance of winning the division be hampered,

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<v Speaker 2>they would their chance of if they don't win the division,

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<v Speaker 2>being the five seed would have been kneecapped. Again, Chargers

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<v Speaker 2>would have been eight and three. They would have been

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<v Speaker 2>seven and five, And the Chargers have the head to

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<v Speaker 2>head and the six seed's a tough spot in the

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<v Speaker 2>AFC because the sixth seed is either going to be

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<v Speaker 2>playing the winner of the AFC East Buffalo or the

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<v Speaker 2>winner of the AFC North, whoever that is. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was a big game, and I don't think folks are

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<v Speaker 2>actually confused by my Lamar Jackson take. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>frustrated by how accurate it is, so they try to

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<v Speaker 2>argue with me about it. Lamar wins seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the games in his career. He's a two time MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>His stats are historically great. He does things on the

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<v Speaker 2>football field that maybe no other player has ever done.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows this. He was a road favorite last night

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<v Speaker 2>against an excellent excellence, probably too strong, against a good

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<v Speaker 2>Charger team, and they won convincingly, and no one is

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<v Speaker 2>that surprised, which is why it's so disappointing that in

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<v Speaker 2>not big games, but the biggest spots, he's so consistently bad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all. It's not that Lamar is like, Oh, he

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<v Speaker 2>only beats the bad teams. He's not Tua. It's not that, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar can't handle the bright lights. He's not Kirk Cousins.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody thinks that he's a future first ballot Hall of Famer,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why it's so disappointing that against his divisional rival,

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<v Speaker 2>the reigning dynasty, and in the playoffs he's so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I think that's gonna be that way for his

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<v Speaker 2>entire career? Probably not. It kind of was for Peyton Manning.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Peyton won two Super Bowls anyway, but Peyton I

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<v Speaker 2>went through it today, like Peyton's numbers, there's just no

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<v Speaker 2>way around it of how much of a massive drop

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<v Speaker 2>it is regular season to postseason. Dan Marino the same

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<v Speaker 2>way regular season to postseason. And there's two quarterbacks, ever,

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<v Speaker 2>whose numbers get not only better, but significantly better regular

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<v Speaker 2>season to postseason, Patrick Mahomes and Joe Montana. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Brady's drop a little bit. But Brady had so

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<v Speaker 2>many huge moments. So I just I what is frustrating?

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<v Speaker 2>And Demons, you can tell me if you think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being unfair here. I thought the best player on the

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens last night was Derrick Henry. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>the difference in the game. But it seemed but it

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<v Speaker 2>was close. Lamar had some unbelievable plays. He also pulled

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<v Speaker 2>out his high school touchdown move of where he stopped

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<v Speaker 2>right before the goal line lets the guy run past him. Sick.

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<v Speaker 2>What is frustrating for me is hit the deep ball.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, he played well after that first quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he completed two passes like they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like it was smooth sailing from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, ooh, what's wrong with the Ravens offense?

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<v Speaker 2>And then they got rolling. What is frustrating for me

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<v Speaker 2>and makes it feel like we're not really being consistent narratively,

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<v Speaker 2>is every single time the Ravens win, the talk show

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<v Speaker 2>topic is my god, Lamar is he the MVP? Or

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<v Speaker 2>is he the MVP? And every time they lose, the

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<v Speaker 2>narrative is why didn't they run Derrick Henry Moore? Why

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<v Speaker 2>didn't they run JK Dobvins to the playoff game? More

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<v Speaker 2>That to me is a little frustrating. And so that

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<v Speaker 2>and I and I said going into yesterday's game that

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the Ravens would win and the topic on

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<v Speaker 2>our show would be is Lamar the MVP? And that's

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<v Speaker 2>where we are. And so I people think because I

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<v Speaker 2>refuse to couch my honest opinion, because I'm not actually

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<v Speaker 2>like I think some I'm gonna really get in the

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<v Speaker 2>weeds on this to a degree. I think some media

0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:55.200
<v Speaker 2>folks really want the athletes to like them, when the

0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.160
<v Speaker 2>reality is like Lamar Jackson and I are not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be buddies. Like not that I wouldn't if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if there was a world in which we happened to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, across it path socially, I think we'd get

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<v Speaker 2>along great. But we don't. We're like Whether or not

0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson thinks I'm a jerk, a great guy, or

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<v Speaker 2>anything has very very very little impact on my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not rooting against him because I actually find

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<v Speaker 2>him to be one of the most likable players in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. I don't think he's fake at all. I

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<v Speaker 2>think compared to the vast majority of high level quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>it would appear I agree with him on political and

0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.159
<v Speaker 2>social issues more than I do most of these guys.

0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:56.360
<v Speaker 2>His teammates adore him. He's an incredibly tough competitor. He

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<v Speaker 2>never he almost never and I think never, intentionally throws

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<v Speaker 2>teammates under the bus. I like the guy, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not This isn't like an Aaron Rodgers thing, where there

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<v Speaker 2>I have my criticisms and I also dislike him. I

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<v Speaker 2>I so I'm not rooting for him to fail, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also not gonna lie to the audience about what

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<v Speaker 2>I think is a at this moment James Harden and

0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Judge esque trajectory, and so that like, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>it is. And so no, I was not shocked at

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<v Speaker 2>all about last night. You know what I was shocked by.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, you go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna ask if I mean you said this

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<v Speaker 3>is a huge game. La Mark can't win games in

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<v Speaker 3>huge spots, the biggest games. Would you not say this

0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.199
<v Speaker 3>is a big game and he won it? Like and

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<v Speaker 3>you say it's not an excellent Chargers team, but it

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<v Speaker 3>isn't excellent.

0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:01.520
<v Speaker 2>It was a very big game. I've seen Lamar win

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<v Speaker 2>big games. It is very very clear. This is what's

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<v Speaker 2>frustrating to me. Folks want my take to be something

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it's not, because if it were something, it's not, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be wrong. Instead, my take is what it is,

0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.640
<v Speaker 2>which is correct. It's not that he doesn't I saw

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<v Speaker 2>him beat the Niners on Christmas Day last year. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not that he doesn't win big games. It's that if

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<v Speaker 2>we were power ranking bigness of games, do we all

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<v Speaker 2>agree the number one draft pick for biggest games or

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<v Speaker 2>playoff games? Yes, we do do we all agree the

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<v Speaker 2>number two draft pick for biggest games for an AFC

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<v Speaker 2>contender is when you play the Cheaps, And do we

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<v Speaker 2>all agree that the number three draft pick for biggest

0:19:56.080 --> 0:20:01.520
<v Speaker 2>games when you're the Baltimore Ravens, are your against the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think objectively we all know that's true. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>the three spots he stinks. In every other scenario, he's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest players ever. That's that's the take. Now,

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:22.919
<v Speaker 2>folks can say I'm cherry picking, but what I'm cherry

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<v Speaker 2>picking is the three biggest spots he plays in, and

0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:33.639
<v Speaker 2>everyone agrees with that. Playoffs, trying to knock off the

0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:39.520
<v Speaker 2>dynasty and quarterback of the era hated divisional rival. In

0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:43.320
<v Speaker 2>literally any other scenario, he's one of the greatest ever.

0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.879
<v Speaker 2>In those scenarios, he's four and twelve with more turnovers

0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 2>than touchdowns. So I can't I can't unsee how good

0:20:55.520 --> 0:21:00.200
<v Speaker 2>he is in spots like last night compared to how

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<v Speaker 2>predictably bad he is in those three spots I've laid out,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the argument folks want to make is

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<v Speaker 2>its coincidence. Okay, I don't think that. Now. What I

0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 2>was surprised by is my dear friend Colin Cowherd with

0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the subtweet drive by that I'm gonna have to bring

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 2>up on the Herd today. Cowherd tweets, this feels like

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<v Speaker 2>a big game, right, So does this count for Lamar Jackson?

0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Just trying to keep track again. People can be intentionally

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 2>obtuse about the take, and I'll talk to Colin about it.

0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I didn't see the tweet, but that was

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.239
<v Speaker 3>exactly what I was thinking. That was exactly what I

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 3>was thinking, did you So?

0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you how? I how I replied to it. Yeah,

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 2>of course. I quote tweeted it with three pictures. The

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:17.639
<v Speaker 2>picture was they're all game recaps. The first one was

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Judge caps huge may By hitting two more home

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 2>runs to lead the Yankees past the Giants. Then one

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:32.200
<v Speaker 2>from December of twenty three, Joel Embiid scores fifty one

0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.240
<v Speaker 2>points as the Sixers beat the Timberwolves one twenty seven,

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 2>one thirteen, and then one from February of twenty one,

0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Harden scores thirty eight NAT's rally from twenty four down

0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 2>to stun the Suns one twenty eight, one twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean I think, sure, the so that just

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<v Speaker 2>you know it is what it is. We can uh

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so we uh, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>You basically touched on the Lamar. Yeah, so how does

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:09.920
<v Speaker 3>anybody support Justin Herbert and he hasn't won anything? Lamar

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Jackson obviously has the two MVPs. Herbert can't get over there.

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't listen. Danny is the only Danny Parkins the

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<v Speaker 2>only person that I know of that thinks Justin Herbert

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.719
<v Speaker 2>is better than Lamar. I mean, I don't again, like

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 2>when people like, how does anyone still support him? Like

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:30.879
<v Speaker 2>Justin Herbert is obviously a good player, but he's not

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 2>an all time great, he's not a legend, he's not

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 2>an MVP, and in order for him to move up

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 2>those ranks, he's got to win some big games and

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.439
<v Speaker 2>play good in some big spots. So I think that

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I actually think the general Justin Herbert opinion is the

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 2>correct one. He's obviously a very talented quarterback who up

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 2>to this point in his career has at least slightly underachieved.

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:08.160
<v Speaker 2>There that can be blamed purely on coaching. I don't

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 2>think that's fair to blame it purely on coaching. He

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 2>hasn't played his best ball in the biggest spots. The

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 2>two biggest games of his career the winning your in

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>game against the Raiders in Week eighteen a few years ago,

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and then the second half of the playoff game against Trevor.

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Those obviously were not his finest moments. And this year's

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.120
<v Speaker 2>a big year for him because he's got a great

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.200
<v Speaker 2>defense and a great head coach. So I think that

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 2>that is the I think most people's Justin Herbert opinion is,

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, within the bounds of that. I think the

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 2>people who think Tua is better than him are out

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 2>of their mind. And I think the people that think

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.640
<v Speaker 2>he's better than Joe Burrow or out of their minds.

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.919
<v Speaker 2>Like I think, you know what I mean, He's he's

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>right there. Like what is if we wanted to have

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 2>an actually interesting Justin Herbert conversation, the Justin Herbert, who

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>who would you rather have? Comp the best one actually

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 2>demands or the most interesting one is Jalen Hurts. And

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 2>the reason I say that is Jalen Hurts has the

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>playoff wins, the far better regular season record, the best

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.919
<v Speaker 2>individual season any of them have had is his, you know,

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 2>his near MVP or a couple of years ago, all

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:37.959
<v Speaker 2>of that, and I think there's a lot of people

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 2>my hands up as well, that would say, yeah, I

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 2>still probably think Justin Herbert's better. So that's like a

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 2>that's a that's about like eye test weapons, all, you know,

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 2>these different things. But that's a fair that's a fair discussion.

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think many people are putting Justin Herbert

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 2>in Lamar's class. And I don't think many people are

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:04.439
<v Speaker 2>putting Justin Herbert in the Kirk Cousins Tua class. I

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>think most people have a fair reading of Herbert. All right,

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>let's move on to the Chiefs.

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so another week, another close call for your Chiefs,

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 3>except this time it was against the Panthers. You guys

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 3>won by three points. You almost called this one exactly.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 3>You said it'd be a four point victory for the Chiefs.

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 3>After the game, Mahomes said, you want to have some blowouts.

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I would love to win a game before the very

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 3>last play. So even Mahomes sounds a little worried that

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 3>they can't jump up on these teams, you seem to

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 3>not be worried about it. Is there something there?

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Well? I don't think he's worried. I think so. Wilds

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 2>also said he was worried. I disagree with that. I

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 2>think he's maybe a little annoyed. I don't think he's worried. No,

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean this, there was a great tweet that I

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 2>wish I could give credit to who wrote it, but

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:59.439
<v Speaker 2>it's exactly correct, and it was so well worded and

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 2>so fun, and it said, I don't care if you're

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the best team in the NFL, an average NFL team,

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 2>an awful NFL team, a college team, or just your

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>local high school football team. There isn't a single team

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 2>in the world the Kansas City Chiefs can't beat by

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 2>exactly three points. And I was like, yeah, that's right, Like, yeah,

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>that's uh, that's exactly right. And it doesn't like the

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl against the Niners, Beacha by three, game against

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 2>the Panthers with Bryce Young comeback, Beacha by three, and

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>so I have we have growing, growing evidence that when

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs need to score, they score, as evidenced by

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>the fact that it's not even a story that once

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>again Mahomes gets the ball with a minute left and

0:27:55.840 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 2>did every just did everyone expect them to immediately drive

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 2>down the field and score or just me. Oh wait,

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 2>everybody did they? I I can only say this so

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 2>many Now, the defense the last two weeks has played

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 2>the two worst games it's played in two years. So

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>that needs to tighten up. Like there's they allowed thirty

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 2>and twenty seven. That's the most and second most points

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 2>they've allowed in two years, and it's in consecutive weeks.

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Against the Bills, you can say you're playing a great offense. Fine,

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 2>against the Panthers, it's not a great game.

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 3>But I.

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:41.959
<v Speaker 2>No. So here's the thing that compared to whom do

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>I think the Chiefs are clearly head and shoulders the

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>best team in the league. Yeah, So what would I

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 2>be worried about? Like, I just it is so much

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 2>of the Chiefs concern trolling is based on in order

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 2>to be concerned, people need to pretend things that didn't

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>happen did happen. So like, oh, I would be really

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 2>worried that Mahomes isn't gonna be the same player without

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Tyreek Kill if he hadn't won League MVP the first

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>year without him. Oh, when they're kind of struggling and

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>not really struggling. They have the best record in the NFL,

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 2>but not wildly impressive in the regular season. I'd be

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 2>really worried about that if they hadn't been ten times

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>worst last regular season and won the Super Bowl. Oh,

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>they're playing all these close games against some mediocre teams.

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I'd be really worried about that if they didn't always

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>literally win like people want them to have lost one

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>of these games, haven't now Listen, Buffalo is not Nobody

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 2>thought they played some terrible game in Buffalo. People like, hey,

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo played a great game and beat them. That's another

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>excellent team. That's not what we're talking about talking about. Whah,

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>my goodness. Why did they almost lose to Denver but

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 2>they didn't. Why did they almost lose to Atlanta but

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>they didn't. Why did they almost lose to Cincinnati but

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 2>they didn't? And this, this Panthers game, is what I

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 2>would call demon's a fake close. And by fake close,

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean this And this is a good just barometer

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>for any football game. Does the other team ever in

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter in this in the Panthers game, it

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>would applied to the second half. It's called it fourth quarter.

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Do they ever have the ball with a chance to

0:30:55.600 --> 0:31:00.479
<v Speaker 2>take the lead? So, is there ever a time that

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the Panthers had the football where it's like, oh, if

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 2>they score a touchdown here they take the lead, and

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 2>they answer that question was no, not for the entire

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>second half. It was like the AFC Championship game against Baltimore.

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore never once had the ball with a chance to

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>take the lead. So even if the final score is closed,

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of fake close. You have the team at

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 2>arms distance the whole way, and I'm just I'm not

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna listen to people saying here is how a team

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>going for a three peat is supposed to look. The

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Patriots were last team to try to go for a

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>three peat. They went ten and six that year. It

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 2>was the worst regular season Brady had in twenty years. Okay,

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>the only team to come close to a three peat

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen ninety San Francisco forty nine ers. They also

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 2>started ten to one. They all they middle of their season,

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 2>they had a field goal at the gun victory over

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>a three win team. They went four fourteen and two.

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Seven of their wins were by four or fewer points.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>There is no precedent for what the Chiefs are trying

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>to do, and they are discussed as if they haven't

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>simultaneously had one of the hardest schedules in football while

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 2>having the best record in football. They have beaten playoff

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 2>teams Chargers, Broncos, Ravens, Falcons. Only one team in the

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>league has more victories over playoff teams. No team in

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the league has fewer losses. And so no, I'm just

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I am And if there was any concern early, it

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, what's up with Mahomes and riddle me this

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 2>since they acquired DeAndre Hopkins twelve touchdowns, three picks, a

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>one zero three rating, one of the best quarterbacks in

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 2>football immediately again, and they're not even playing DeAndre that much.

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 2>That's the other reason that the Chiefs are just playing

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>by a different a different game than everyone else. The

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs traded Demands a fifth round pick for DeAndre Hopkins.

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>That turns into a fourth round pick if he plays

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 2>sixty percent of the snaps and they make the Super Bowl.

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 2>So you know what the Chiefs are not doing playing

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Hopkins sixty percent of the snaps. He had fewer

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 2>snaps than Justin Watson this week. Anybody think Justin Watson's

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>better than DeAndre Hopkins or with the Chiefs, like, let's

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>keep his snap count down. They are wild. Yeah, they

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 2>just added a left tackle. They're getting Pachecko back. They're

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna get Hollywood Brown before Christmas. They're getting Charles a.

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Minahu back. They're gonna have the best team up that

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>they've had all year in December. They have the best

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>record in football they've had. They've already gone through the

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 2>tough part of their schedule.

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Now, with all that said, oh go ahead, Sorry, yeah,

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 3>because I tell you the can.

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>No and then and then you go ahead. With all

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 2>that said, I'm very, very excited for on Black Friday,

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Aid and O'Connell to have the Raiders tied at halftime.

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for it. I really can't wait for it.

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>But what were you about to say go ahead?

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I think what kills people? What kills people about your

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 3>chiefs taken? You're not worried this, that and the third?

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 3>You always say there's this gear that they can tap

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 3>into when it just doesn't seem like I get they're

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 3>winning the games, but do they truly have control? I

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 3>think there has to be something said about them not

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 3>having the ability to do it and to not blow

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 3>or not be in a close game with the Panthers

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 3>at the end, Like it's.

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Like, go on, why I just listen. I until the NFL,

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>and I haven't checked. I know they changed the kickoff

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 2>rules until they changed to where margin of victory matters

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 2>like it's used to in college football. I don't know

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck people are talking about like that. I mean,

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 2>it's just they And if people question do they have

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:09.919
<v Speaker 2>an extra gear? I don't know. Man, how much time

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.439
<v Speaker 2>was left when they got the people like, people can

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>question it, but the proof is in the putting of

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 2>whenever they have to score, they score. They got the

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 2>ball back with a minute and a half left, and

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>guess what, Oh my goodness, mahomes, you mean that scramble

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 2>was there the whole game? Like people think these things

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 2>are coincidence, like Chris Jones all of his sacks coming

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>in high leverage spots or in the fourth quarter, or

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:46.399
<v Speaker 2>it does one of the greatest players ever. Understand all

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>sacks are not created equal. And if I'm playing this

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 2>right tackle or left guard in the first quarter and

0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I see, oh, I can beat him on this move

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and then he'll adjust, I'm gonna wait and let him

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 2>think he's got me. Clyde Fraser used to say that

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 2>he would if he saw the guy he was guarding

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:21.280
<v Speaker 2>had a ball handling weakness, he wouldn't exploit it early

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 2>because then the guy would adjust and then in a

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 2>high leverage spot, he wouldn't be able to go get

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 2>the steal. You guys think it's just coincidence that every

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>great Mahomes run you've ever seen comes in the fourth

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 2>quarter or on fourth down or on a critical third down,

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 2>or does he see it available and say, might not

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>need it, but if I do, I'm not wasting it

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 2>here that every Chris Jones play. I said going into

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.280
<v Speaker 2>this week's game, my assumed stat line for Chris Jones

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>against the Panthers with zero tackle, zero sex. You know what,

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 2>he finished with zero tackle, zero sex. The other thing

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 2>is this when you're every year you're playing a twenty

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>game season and everyone else is planning for a seventeen

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:14.760
<v Speaker 2>or eighteen game season. It's different. And so what actually

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 2>annoys people demands about my Chiefs take is last year,

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 2>because last year they actually lost games, and last year

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 2>they actually had problems, and last year they actually had

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to go on the road, and last year the Bills

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 2>were red hot, the Ravens were the best Ravens team

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 2>of the lamar Era, and the Niners had a top defense,

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 2>top offense, almost MVP at quarterback check check check. And

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>so what annoys people is that last year I was

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 2>confident they had another gear and I was right, And

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 2>this year people are like, why isn't the team that's

0:37:56.320 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>ten to one better? And I think they're dumb. That's

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>the answer to those questions. Next. Oh, and by the way,

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Bryce played well. Bryce played well. Good for him, he

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>made some high level throws, and I listen, I hope

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 2>that he can. You know my take on Bryce, it

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 2>is too small, but everybody loves him, so I hope

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>that he can, uh, you know, build something right.

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Next, So you are no longer an NFC bachelor. You

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 3>settled down with the Eagles. They got that doub over

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 3>the Rams. But love is blinded you to come out

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 3>and say that Saquon Barkley should be the front runner

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 3>for MVP. Is that real love? Or are you just

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 3>fading Josh Allen on the MVP.

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 2>No, I listen, I right now, I think the MVP

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>should go like this. I think is here. I think

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Josh is right on his heels beneath him. Here and

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>then I think there is a massive gap. I I

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know who would be third. You could make an

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 2>argument for golf. You can make an argument for Derrick

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Henry people, or you can make an argument for Lamar

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>No the you can make an argument is there anybody

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 2>else the there's one other person that I had just

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 2>said that I'm forgetting. But regardless like those are, you

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 2>can maybe sneaky make an argument somewhere on your ballot

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:24.720
<v Speaker 2>for TJ. Watt for carrying that. You know the Steelers

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 2>where they are, so those are the but I am

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 2>not I'm not anti Josh. This year is I think evidence.

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I just think Saquon, who I was dead wrong about,

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>is having a historic, all time great season. And this

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Eagles team right now is really scary. Vic Fangio did

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 2>turn that defense around. So now you have an offense

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:56.240
<v Speaker 2>that was good last year that until it all fell apart,

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 2>that's way better because of Saquon. You then have the

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 2>f defense and those rookie secondary guys in Quinn and

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:09.399
<v Speaker 2>Mitchell and Cooper Dejen playing great, and man oh man,

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 2>that's a scary team.

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Keeps again in the super Bowl.

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 2>That's my pick right now. So here's The other thing

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 2>that nobody that I tried to get into yesterday that

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I just think warrants. I just want to remind the

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 2>audience here is what the Eagles have going for him.

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Their floor of a seed is at this point, Demond's

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 2>the two seed. Like the NFC West in NFC South

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Division winner is not gonna have a great record, and

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 2>with Washington having fallen apart, they are going to win

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that division, so it might be tough for them to

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>get the one, but they can't fall past the two.

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Detroit is in a different spot because right now Detroit

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 2>is the favorite for the one, and they should be,

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 2>but Minnesota is one game behind them and plays them

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>in the final game of the year. If Minnesota were

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 2>to catch them, Detroit falls to the five seed. So

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:21.320
<v Speaker 2>like Detroit probably will be the one, but pretty easily

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 2>could if they just slip up for two games go

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 2>all the way to the five. And Jared Goff's road

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 2>to the Super Bowl being by Dome game, Dome game

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:39.240
<v Speaker 2>versus what it would potentially be, which is no bye

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 2>on the road, you know, in lost, you know whoever

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:50.840
<v Speaker 2>wins the NFC West and then on the road in Philly.

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 2>That's a and just to get to the NFC title game.

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 2>That's a different story. And so Detroit has looked awesome,

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 2>but Minnesota staying right on their heels at nine and

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 2>two makes Detroit a little more tenuous, while Philly has

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 2>no one on their heels because Washington's falling apart. So

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I just think that that's another reason I like where

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Philly is.

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, pal, Oh yeah, So on TV, you were

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.879
<v Speaker 3>a jersey an Eagles jersey. Yeah, you just said something

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 3>weeks ago about not wearing jerseys as an adult. Yeah,

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 3>your job.

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a performer. Yeah. I also don't believe in

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 2>wearing you know, like fat suits and fake noses. But

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't mind Colin Ferrell on the Penguin doing it.

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 2>He's playing a character. I mean, what are we talking about? Yes,

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I was. I didn't wear that walking the streets of

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 2>New York.

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I was playing a role on television which was really

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to bother Brew and it worked because Bruce Bean

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Eagles guy, Bruce Bean, the Saquon guy. But all of

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I'm wearing a set one jersey and I'm

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:02.879
<v Speaker 2>picking them to go to the Super Bowl. So yeah,

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is like the well, except he picked

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the Packers to win the super Bowl and you're to

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 2>go to the super Bowl and he's not coming off it.

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, he maybe had the foresight, but he

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 2>left that corner unguarded, and I came and snatched it

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:24.760
<v Speaker 2>up from him. All right, let's talk a little CJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Gambling Show by the way back above five hundred. Uh.

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Demonse's teaser fell a little short. That's okay, it happens

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 2>both legs, one truly awful leg and one barely right.

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 2>The Chiefs were the barely half point. Yeah, and then yeah,

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>it's I mean pretty much. I mean yeah, the Dolphins

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 2>got passed. I mean they they're just cooked there the Patriots.

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 2>So I was when I saw I remembered that you

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 2>had the Chiefs minus three and a half, and it

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 2>made me because I didn't remember what the other leg

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 2>of your teaser was.

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Hoping when I checked the document that it had lost

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't want the Chiefs to have cost you

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 2>by yeah, because they especially Oh but hey man, yeah,

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 2>if only someone who told you it was gonna be

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 2>a three or four point game. All right, let's go ahead,

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 2>let's do CJ. Stroud.

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.439
<v Speaker 3>So we hit on CJ slump a little bit earlier. So, yeah,

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.320
<v Speaker 3>he's had a rough month without Nico Collins. New cons

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 3>is back, but he's in the AFC South, so he's

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 3>got a little bit of a cushion there. But before

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 3>the year, we had talked about green Bay and Houston,

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 3>in which team we thought was more likely to take

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 3>a step back or digress. You bought staking the Texans

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 3>and faded the Packers, who are now eight and three.

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Do you regret your choice or do you think that

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 3>people are reading into the the CJ slump too deeply

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 3>right now?

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean I think it's a real thing. I

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that he's not playing great. He almost went

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 2>fuller lofski in the end zone run out the back.

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 2>He was lucky he got tackled because he was gonna

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 2>run out on his own, and the tackle made it

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 2>less embarrassing. Also, the offensive line's been brutal. I also

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 2>don't think the Packers are quite as good as their

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 2>eight and three records suggests. I think they're good, but

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they are I don't think that the

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Packers feel great about their last few weeks of football,

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 2>so like, obviously they feel great about the way they

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 2>annihilated the Niners, but the previous week they needed the

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 2>block field goal against the Bears. The Lions beat him

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 2>pretty soundly. The Jags game was super close, the Texans

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 2>game is super close, So I think they are maybe

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 2>a little shake year, and it's because Jordan Love hasn't

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 2>played quite to the level he played last year. So

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was people were. I thought super

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Bowl for either of these teams was premature. Now, I

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 2>thought the Packers could missed the playoffs because I thought

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the Bears were gonna be a playoff team in that division.

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 2>That obviously was wrong. You look confused, Monty.

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, put, Ye're talking about people that picked the

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Texans in Green Bay to go to the super Bowl,

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 3>where premature. I mean you picked the Bears.

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, well I was wrong about the Bears, I

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 2>mean the I mean, what what what what do you mean?

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 3>No? I was just like all right, yeah, no, I'm

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 3>sorry that the tone I got confused. My apologies.

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm saying that I'm trying. Actually, I don't think

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 2>that the Packers or the Texans have like massively regressed.

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I think they're very similar to the actual Caliar teams

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 2>they were last year. I just think because they both

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:53.959
<v Speaker 2>won a playoff game in impressive fashion, they people thought

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>they were maybe gonna be a little ahead of the schedule.

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 2>They're actually on That's the only point that I'm making.

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying like it was a ridiculous, right, Yeah,

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm just I'm just saying that if if

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:12.879
<v Speaker 2>you're judging either of these teams based on the they're disappointing.

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:15.839
<v Speaker 2>If they're not a Super Bowl contender standard I gotta

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 2>kill this mosquito, then you're disappointed. If you're judging them

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:23.239
<v Speaker 2>based on you know, they were on this great trajectory.

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Did they level off a bit? But there are they?

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Do you still feel good about them? Then it's different. Listen,

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 2>the Texan's got to clean a lot of things up,

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 2>and they need to spend some real resources on an

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 2>offensive line that's been a disaster this year. That's been

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 2>their biggest problem is their offensive line, and it's led

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 2>to some of CJ's skittishness. If you will, all right,

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 2>let's do the Thanksgiving uh whatever Thanksgiving game we're doing here.

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, So much like at the Thanksgiving table, there

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 3>isn't enough room on your plate for every dish, So

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna pass around some dishes aka bets, and you

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 3>saw what you want to put on your plate? Plate one?

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 3>Bet one, We've got a Caleb Williams props over two

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty nine and a half pass yards at

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.399
<v Speaker 3>minus one fifteen or over twenty nine and a half

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 3>rush yards at minus one fifteen.

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Listen, I I actually would I like both of these

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 2>because he is running the ball more and I think, listen,

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I think Chicago's gonna have to throw a lot. They're

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 2>playing Detroit on Thanksgiving. Detroit's gonna put up some points,

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 2>and so I wouldn't even mind parlaying these two. If

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 2>if I had to pick just one, I guess I

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:38.759
<v Speaker 2>would probably pick the rushing yards. But I think he

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:42.720
<v Speaker 2>could have a big statistical game. But that you expect

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:44.520
<v Speaker 2>the Bears obviously to lose, all right.

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Next bet two nap time New York Dallas. Either team

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 3>to score three unanswered times. Yes at minus one sixty

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 3>five and No at plus one twenty five.

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:01.320
<v Speaker 2>So the three straight scores bet. That's always seem like

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 2>NO should be the favorite, and Yes is always the

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 2>favorite because it happens more often than people think. I

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 2>actually would go with No on this one because I

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 2>just think this is gonna be a lot of punts

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and quick drives, because both I know the Cowboys offense

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 2>look good this week, but Tommy DeVito Cooper rush is

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 2>not exactly gonna be a scoring bonanza. And by the way,

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the Kleeb thing, I can get plus two fifty if

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I parlay them both it's not the greatest odds in

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 2>the world. That's fine, but go ahead.

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Bet three werecalling this one fading two in the cold

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 3>got two at under two and forty one and a

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 3>half yards and under one and a half touchdowns at

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 3>plus one fifty.

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 2>So I would I'm not gonna do the under tds.

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I would do the underyards. Here's what I'm gonna say

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 2>about two in the cold. It is up to Mike

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:03.240
<v Speaker 2>McDaniel to set the standard that it's gonna not bother

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 2>his team. So Mike McDaniel can't be bundled up like

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 2>a snowman. Mike McDaniel's gotta gotta set the tone, and

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 2>in that Chiefs playoff game, he looked so miserable that

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 2>it set a tone for his team that the weather's

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be an excuse and he needs to set

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a different tone here. So I know that sounds crazy,

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 2>but there was a real difference between Andy Reid wearing

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 2>just his regular winter clothes, even though he had literal

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 2>icicles forming on his mustache in that playoff game, and

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.879
<v Speaker 2>Mike McDaniel looking like he wanted to be anywhere other

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.319
<v Speaker 2>than where he was. Now, I understand that was one

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 2>of the coldest games ever, I understand. And Andy Reid's

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 2>got more natural I get it, I understand, But it's

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 2>still he needs to It's such a thing for his

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.239
<v Speaker 2>team that he has to shake no pun intended the

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 2>snow globe a bit here, all right, Let's do a

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 2>couple of these other special bets from DraftKings. See if

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I like any of them.

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Lamb Cutlets Ceedee Lamb and Tommy DeVito to combine

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 3>for four hundred plus passing, receiving and rushing yards at

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:18.240
<v Speaker 3>plus three fifty.

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I hate that bet. I hate it.

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 3>I hate it. I hate it.

0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I will not be a part of that bet. So

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 2>what would that mean that? Let's say Ceedee Lamb has

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:31.320
<v Speaker 2>a monster game, he has one hundred and fifty yards.

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I need two hundred and fifty yards from Tommy DeVito.

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 3>No thanks, Next, invite the neighbors mylik neighbors to have

0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 3>two plus receptions in each quarter at plus twenty two hundred.

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Hey, no, I don't like that bet, I either like Again,

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:51.799
<v Speaker 2>that's relying too much of it there, Tommy DeVito. And also,

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna give an old man

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 2>take real quick, Malik Neighbors is too young to already

0:53:57.160 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 2>be a deva wide Receiverlik the Molik Neighbors can't be

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 2>lighten his coach up, lighten his quarterback up. You've been

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 2>in a league a dozen games. I think he's gonna

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.440
<v Speaker 2>be a great player, and I think he's excellent. I

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 2>understand his frustration, but that is also a cultural problem

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>for the Giants that they that he thinks that's allowed. Like, sorry, man,

0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 2>you're you're you haven't yet done, and you I understand,

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Like diva wide receiver is almost like something that's just

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 2>totally accepted and we're fine with it. You're not Jamar

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Chase yet. Bro, You're just not And the your your

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 2>teammates weren't lighting you up whenning I think it was

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Game two, you dropped a pass that would ice the

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 2>game and they lost. Like you got It's too early,

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 2>too early in your career for that, in my opinion.

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 3>All right, Next, the meat sweats Montes sweat to have

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:56.399
<v Speaker 3>two plus x plus eight.

0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Hundred at eight to one. I'll take a little taste

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:02.680
<v Speaker 2>at that. I don't mind that. See if the see

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.399
<v Speaker 2>if you can get a Lion's got a great offensive line.

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:07.279
<v Speaker 2>But see if Montes Sweat can get going. I don't

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 2>mind that one, but go ahead.

0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Uh for Black Friday Raiders Chiefs, will the team that

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:16.640
<v Speaker 3>scores last win the game? Yes? At minus two eighty

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.399
<v Speaker 3>five and no at plus two oh five?

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would, I I know, I'm not interested

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 2>in that bet, Like that's to me, that's I guess

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I if I know there's two from minus two eighty

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 2>to plus two five. No, yeah, no, no, no, I'm

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 2>not interested in that bet. All right, real quick, let's

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 2>play this game because then I got a run. We'll

0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:42.879
<v Speaker 2>do some listener questions too, but we're gonna roll through

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 2>this demanse.

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So we're deep enough into the seasons to know

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 3>how teams, how good teams really are aren't but there

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 3>are still a few mysteries out there. What is the

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 3>biggest question mark you still have for each of these contenders?

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 3>First off, Lamar is in the thick of the MVP

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 3>discussion still, but even at eight and four, Baltimore shown

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 3>there is shaky at times. What is the biggest question

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 3>still facing the Ravens.

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, I don't We've talked enough about Lamar. The

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 2>biggest question is for the Ravens is the defense that

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 2>showed up last night gonna be their real defense, because

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 2>if it is, they got a fighting chance. Like the

0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 2>defense have been brutal last night, the defense showed some

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 2>real fight even without Rokwan Smith, so that was a

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 2>very positive sign.

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Next h San Francisco is now plus four hundred to

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:32.279
<v Speaker 3>make the playoffs. It's crazy, but they're only a game

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 3>back in the crowded West. Answering a big question or

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:36.880
<v Speaker 3>two could turn things around for them. But what is

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 3>the big question still facing the Niners? Well?

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:43.680
<v Speaker 2>How healthy is Party? And then the other the big

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>question is if they missed the playoffs, do they pay

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Party this offseason or do they wait? You is unsurprisingly no,

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I would wait and see what he looks like next year,

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:55.880
<v Speaker 2>see if we you know, if he looks more like

0:56:56.000 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 2>this year or more like he did last season. And

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 2>the reason that their playoff odds are so bad is

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:07.759
<v Speaker 2>because they're in such a bad shape from divisional tiebreakers.

0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Is if they are tied with any team atop the division,

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna lose that tie breaker. So they need to

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 2>finish with the best record with nobody having the same record,

0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 2>and that's gonna be tough for them, especially with the

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 2>schedule they have. I mean they have a game against

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo coming up this weekend next.

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 3>The Yeah, so the forty nine Ers are the only

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 3>struggling team in the ANFC West. The Rams are in

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 3>the same boat after falling apart on Sunday night versus

0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 3>the Eagles. What is the big question still facing the Rams?

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, can they have a second half the way

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.720
<v Speaker 2>they did last year? Terrible open to the season last year,

0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:47.919
<v Speaker 2>then we're red hot going in the playoffs. I still

0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 2>want to believe in the Rams because I believe in

0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:53.439
<v Speaker 2>Stafford so much. But they're digging themselves quite the hole.

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's not just that they lost to Philly. It's

0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 2>that they you know, they let go of the rope

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<v Speaker 2>and let Saquon kill them next.

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<v Speaker 3>Washington has gone from being the eighteen to falling apart

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<v Speaker 3>over the last month. On this past week, they even

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<v Speaker 3>blew it to to the tanking Cowboys by missing the

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<v Speaker 3>point I'm sorry, the extra point. Yeah. What is the

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<v Speaker 3>big question still facing the Commanders?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how close are they to bottom? Because they

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<v Speaker 2>should still make the playoffs and their next two are

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<v Speaker 2>the Titans and the Saints, and the Saints are after

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<v Speaker 2>a bye, so they should be able to steady themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they lose against the Titans and they go

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<v Speaker 2>into the bye at seven and six after starting seven

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<v Speaker 2>and two, then could be real trouble. And also Jaden

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<v Speaker 2>could lose Rookie of the Year to bow Nicks. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's that piece of it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, next, Uh you one time NFC sweetheart pairs

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<v Speaker 3>have collapsed with many left pointing the finger at Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>Williams Chicago. Isn't the continder you thought they were? We

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<v Speaker 3>expect them to clean the house. So what do they

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<v Speaker 3>then do? What is the biggest question still facing the

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<v Speaker 3>Bears going forward?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Who's gonna be their next head coach? And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the only question that really matters because ebra Flus is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get fired And can they probably Ben Johnson away

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<v Speaker 2>from the Lions, weaken the Lions and make themselves better?

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the big question. Like that to me is

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<v Speaker 2>no question that that is their single biggest question. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>quick break, right back? What's right?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back in What's right with Nick right Demansey, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>answer a few listener questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Murphy, should the NBA try to encroach on Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 3>like the NFL is done with Christmas. There's always at

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<v Speaker 3>least one bad game that they could have potentially steal

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<v Speaker 3>viewers from.

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<v Speaker 2>I No, I don't. I don't think that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a good idea. I think that would be a big

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<v Speaker 2>owl for the NBA. And listen, the NFL is just

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<v Speaker 2>taking people's corners. There's nothing you can really do about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, I don't. I don't think that they should

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<v Speaker 2>uh try to encroach on Thanksgiving. I think it's smart

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<v Speaker 2>to not try to start a fight they can't win.

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<v Speaker 3>Next Alex Magley despite the poor coaching from Tomlin and

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<v Speaker 3>Arthur Smith against Cleveland, do you see the Steelers as

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<v Speaker 3>a potential opponent for the Chiefs or Bills in the

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<v Speaker 3>AFC Championship game?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I don't. I don't think the Steelers can be

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<v Speaker 2>dismissed because every game is gonna be close. And listen,

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers are gonna play a low scoring, close game

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<v Speaker 2>against the worst teams in the league, the best teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the league, and the mediocre teams, and TJ. Watt

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<v Speaker 2>can wrect games. Listen. I find this steel I think,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think Kansity is clearly the best. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo is clearly the biggest threat. But I put the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers on the same level as the Ravens and the

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<v Speaker 2>Chargers though as like, I don't think they're worse than

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<v Speaker 2>those teams personally. All right, next.

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Rodgers. What does Jared Goff need to do to

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<v Speaker 3>win win MVP? Keep maintaining and hope the others slip.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, yeah, he has to maintain and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he does need Josh Allen to slip up quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing, because the MVP has become something you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm gonna amend my answer. He probably what

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<v Speaker 2>he needs to do to win MVP because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna give it to a running back. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they will, but it's been a dozen years. They play

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<v Speaker 2>the Bills on national TV in three weeks December fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>the and if they win that game, honestly, it'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>be Jared Goff's award, Like that's just kind of how

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<v Speaker 2>this goes. And so they play the Bills. If he

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<v Speaker 2>plays well in the win that game, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>can win MVP. I don't love that. It just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, they played late and this guy won,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's how the voting went last year, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it might go like that again. All right, last one, WX.

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<v Speaker 3>You always criticize Siriani, but to quote you, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe in quarterback wins, but I do believe in coaching wins.

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<v Speaker 3>In quote, why won't you give him credit for how

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<v Speaker 3>much he's won?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, it's a good argument. I always say wins are

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<v Speaker 2>a coaching stat and he's one of the winning as

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<v Speaker 2>coaches ever, so that is a great argument using my

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<v Speaker 2>own definitions against me. So well done, sir. The answer

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<v Speaker 2>that question is I just don't think he's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, like I I think, I just don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he's very good. But you're right, by the way I

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<v Speaker 2>judge coaches, I should think he's excellent. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a great Thanksgiving. Everyone. Check our socials four hour

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