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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you

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Speaker 2: a Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Mollie, Hi, Kristin, Yes, and you're here.

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Speaker 2: The great Molly Price, who plays Susan Sharon, a fan favorite.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny to see you with your hair, and then.

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Speaker 2: To have watched the episode back and I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, moll you just have the dark hair.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I realized it when I watched it. I realized I

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Speaker 4: had just done a Woody Allen movie and Uma Thurman

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Speaker 4: was one of the leads in the film, and they

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Speaker 4: I'm complimenting myself right out of the gate. Kristen Wood

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Speaker 4: He was worried that we looked similar now, so they

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Speaker 4: had me dye my hair black wild. So when I

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Speaker 4: did Sex and Sex and the City, my hair was black.

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Speaker 4: I'm normally like a you know, like a chess, and

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Speaker 4: I go into blogs. Right when I watched the episode again,

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, my.

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Speaker 3: Hair was black.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really dark. Yeah, yeah, I love your

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Speaker 2: hair like this. It looks so great.

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Speaker 3: It's that or gray. So I'm going until I'm brave

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Speaker 3: enough to be gray.

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Speaker 2: I mean me too, but I'm just keep in the

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Speaker 2: dark till I'm brave enough to be gray. But you know,

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Speaker 2: this is where we're at, right, Okay. So it was

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Speaker 2: really really fun to look back at this episode because

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Speaker 2: to me, I would have thought that this episode was

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Speaker 2: much later in the series. But as I'm rewatching the show,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the things that I think of as

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Speaker 2: being like kind of like important moments or things that

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Speaker 2: people remember were much earlier in our in our seasons

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Speaker 2: than I thought. And this episode is one of them.

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Speaker 2: It's called The Awful Truth I Believe, Yes, right, And

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Speaker 2: it's written by Darren Starr, directed by the great Alan Coulter,

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Speaker 2: who I love so much. And it's such a fantastic episode.

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Speaker 2: And you are so great in it.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's so nice. Thank you. I had a blast

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Speaker 3: doing it. It was much fun.

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Speaker 1: Did you know I was nervous? Were you?

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Speaker 3: Oh? My god? I was terrified? Why? Why? Well? It

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Speaker 3: was such an iconic show.

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Speaker 4: It was the beginning of the second season, and it was,

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Speaker 4: you know, the talk of the town. It was you know,

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Speaker 4: sex and the city and the sopranos were all the rage.

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Speaker 4: And I remember auditioning and I was so nervous in

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Speaker 4: the audition and I just thought we'll use it, you know,

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Speaker 4: just ride that you know bill Esper, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if your audience knows that you and

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Speaker 4: I went to college together.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, let's tell them Molly and I went to

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Speaker 2: college together.

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Speaker 1: You guys believe this?

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Speaker 2: And could I just say it's always so amazing to

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Speaker 2: someone who trained like we did, because there just aren't

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Speaker 1: Like, it was a small school.

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Speaker 4: It was a really small school, and we were really

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Speaker 4: early on in that in that evolution, and it you know,

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Speaker 4: it didn't last long.

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Speaker 3: What was he there? Bill Esper was there for what

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Speaker 3: ten fifteen years?

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Speaker 1: Right? And now I don't even think they have BFA

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Speaker 3: No, hey, they only have a right.

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Speaker 2: So we were part of of really kind of a

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Speaker 2: magical program that was very hard but great where we

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Speaker 2: studied with an amazing teacher named Bill Esper. We were

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Speaker 2: at Rudcerds University, but we were a small part of

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Speaker 2: in beautiful New Brunswick, New Jersey, which is so crazy

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Speaker 2: to think about. Like, I met Mollie probably when I

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Speaker 1: I want to.

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Speaker 2: Say, we were kids, little kids, little kids trying to act,

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Speaker 2: and here we still are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we are. Okay, that's Bill.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Bill, Yes, thank you Bill, thank you Bill in heaven. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 2: thank you for remembering that. It's so crazy to think

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Speaker 2: which was so great and so perfect. Yeah, so so

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Speaker 2: perfect to have you come to a big event, which

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Speaker 2: we'll get to later, but let's go back in time.

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Speaker 2: So we were very nervous in the audition, and you thought,

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Speaker 2: Bill magic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just remember you know, the you know working you know,

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Speaker 4: And I just remember them laughing like out loud in

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Speaker 3: Is going this is going well. Yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: Just if I can flash back even prior to the audition,

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Speaker 4: Like two years before my audition, I remember getting a

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Speaker 4: What HB Studios And they said it's an audition for

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Speaker 3: And like, I'm a recovering Catholic, so as soon as I.

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Speaker 4: Heard the word sex, I was like, oh, shite, I can't.

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Speaker 4: I had to go to Queens to audition for there

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Speaker 4: was a Silver Cup Studios. Yeah, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, wow wow. I love about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I do think it's it's so it's It's

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Speaker 1: There was nothing to compare it to, and that comedic

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Speaker 2: and I mean, I'm sorry that you did an audition

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Speaker 1: But I get it.

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Speaker 2: Because I remember my own I think because I knew Darren,

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Speaker 2: Though Darren really didn't have a track record of writing comedy.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what made it work back then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, a lot of mild zones, but I get it.

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Speaker 2: I remember when I was auditioning, the auditions would just

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Speaker 4: Shut the good old days totally totally.

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Speaker 1: It made us tough. It made us very tough, I think,

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Speaker 2: But when I watch you back, I mean, I think,

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Speaker 2: I think so many great things. I think that number

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Speaker 2: one and why I love to hear your audition story

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Speaker 2: is that it's hard to make this funny. You know,

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Speaker 2: like you're in an abusive relationship, right, and you make

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Speaker 1: It's kind of impressive.

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Speaker 3: Well again, I think I said, I'm a recovering.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I understand comedy and abuse.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Oh my god, I'm glad you said that

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Speaker 2: But it's really good and it's also I'm curious just well,

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Speaker 2: but when I watched this, one of the things I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we would be calling the police. Are

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Speaker 2: But we make jokes and Carrie's like, maybe that's just

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Speaker 1: Yes, So she's writing about you. She says that she

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Speaker 3: I think I was drinking on the plane and I

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Speaker 2: Then you take her back to the apartment, you give

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Speaker 1: Is so nice of you.

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Speaker 3: It's a kash miracle. Yeah, you call it a.

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Speaker 2: Kash miracle exactly. I love it so much. But then

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Speaker 3: Time, right, that's right, wakes up. He says, I'm on London.

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Speaker 4: She passes him and says a good night, grumpy or

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Speaker 2: Right, And then later on she goes, maybe it wasn't

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Speaker 2: But then you call and you're so sad and embarrassed,

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Speaker 1: And then you're you're kind of being along and then.

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Speaker 3: And I loved her response.

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Speaker 4: She says, if you're not happy, life is too short,

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Speaker 1: For sure, what do you think.

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Speaker 4: I guess it depends on how conscious your friends are,

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Speaker 2: And maybe you asked her this because she's a sex calumnist,

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Speaker 1: Momly good one, Molly.

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Speaker 2: Good for you, I mean, and this is this is

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Speaker 1: She can't do it back right.

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Speaker 4: He wants her to talk dirty and she can listen

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Speaker 1: How do you feel? You know, what do you want?

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Speaker 3: You were great, you were a good driven talker. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know I got right in there, but I did

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Speaker 3: You know, like you were right into it. I know.

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Speaker 2: She's the prude, she's the prood, just like you got.

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Speaker 2: Open and honest with one another that we've misplaced the

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00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 2: boundaries of propriety? Are there still certain things in a

445
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: relationship one should never say? And I do feel like

446
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:12,479
Speaker 2: this is also Michael Patrick and Darren.

447
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: Darren wrote this one.

448
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 2: Both of them I think, have included criticisms from critics

449
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 2: for the first season into the writing. So the first

450
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 2: episode is when Miranda gets up and says, like, oh

451
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 2: we ever.

452
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 1: Talk about is men and sex? I'm leaving so.

453
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 2: We could talk about something different, which was a big

454
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 2: criticism of the show in the beginning, Right, Okay, why

455
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 2: are all these women just sitting around talking about men

456
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: all the time? And then in this episode are there boundaries?

457
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 2: Because people I remember in the beginning, people said, oh,

458
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 2: this isn't how women talk, which I don't think is true.

459
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 2: I do think women talk about these things together. I

460
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 2: don't know if they use all the same words that

461
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 2: we use in the show.

462
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 4: You know, right right, well, we're not doing a documentary,

463
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 4: you know, We're doing a comedy.

464
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely. But you know how critics are right, they

465
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 2: don't care. They're going to find something.

466
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: We're all failed actors. Oh did I say that?

467
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: Oh my, I love it. I love it. I love it.

468
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay. But I think it's really funny

469
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 2: to see because I had kind of forgotten these moments

470
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: where I think that they're kind of putting in, like

471
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 2: the things that people wanted to throw stones at us about,

472
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 2: Like I'm.

473
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: Just going to use it, you know, which is smart.

474
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: And so now we get the montage of regular people,

475
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 2: which we still have, which I didn't really realize continued

476
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 2: this long into the second season, and so different people

477
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 2: are complaining about their friends and their partners, which is

478
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: kind of funny topic intimacy and it's different meanings in

479
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: a relationship. What does intimacy meaning in a relationship? Is

480
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 2: it more physical or emotional intimacy? Interesting questions here? Then, Oh,

481
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: this is when it gets all complicated with you and Carrie.

482
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: So we're at the market.

483
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 2: You guys are walking around, you're eating a lot, which

484
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: is interesting.

485
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were at ABC Carpet and Home I love.

486
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, No, so many years ago.

487
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 4: I mean, what what was that nineteen ninety nine. Yeah,

488
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 4: and it was the original ABC carpet when you know

489
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: now it's a modified version.

490
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:11,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

491
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 3: And they had a candy section.

492
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 4: Wow, and they were like just go just go around

493
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 4: and pick up candy and eat as.

494
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 3: Much as you can. And I was like, oh, you know,

495
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 3: it's hard to eat and be funny and not look like,

496
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: you know, an animal.

497
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: So that was very great.

498
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 4: You take after take with my mouthful of like chocolate

499
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 4: covered pretzels and like you know, sugar dipped fruit.

500
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: I was like, it worked.

501
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: It was hilarious and fun to do.

502
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I love that.

503
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: I do think people have asked me like, were you

504
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 2: guys really eating? I'm like, yeah, obviously we're really eating.

505
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah we were. I was really eating and that.

506
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got lines like we can't we can't stop

507
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 2: and not really eat. And I think also they were

508
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: very into us really eating. Like you know, they were

509
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: always like at the coffee shop, if you didn't take

510
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: a bike, they'd be like, take a bike, why aren't

511
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: you takeing a bike?

512
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: Talk? Yeah, but it does make it so much more real. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.

513
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 2: So I think you're really funny here because you're just

514
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: like on a rant kind of, but you're also stuffing

515
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: your face and walking through the door, which is very

516
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: challenging as an actor.

517
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: I have to say, you're really.

518
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: Good, and you're basically telling carry that you have in

519
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: fact left your husband.

520
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: And that uh, he says this horrible thing to.

521
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: You, that he pities you, your character student, Sharon, because in

522
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: a year he'll be remarried and you'll be single the

523
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 2: rest of your life. And then Carrie's voiceover says, yes,

524
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: I didn't want to tell her that this is true.

525
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

526
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: And then you say you thank her for your hair advice,

527
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: and you tell her that you feel free.

528
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 3: And then I asked her to sleep over.

529
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: Yes, and she's like okay, and like it's so funny.

530
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: It's so funny.

531
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: When you're over there, he says, we know that apartment

532
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: is not that big, but it's kind of adorable.

533
00:23:59,400 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: It's kind of door.

534
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: Okay, now I think this is, oh Charlotte's apartment. This

535
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 2: is when you see Henry the dog. This is so cute.

536
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: This is my hallway, which I remember being so excited

537
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: to get because in the beginning I just had two

538
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: flats that they would like move around for whichever way

539
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: they needed to shoot the camera in my bedroom. So

540
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: now I have a hallway. I can walk down the hallway,

541
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: I can look in the mirror. I'm like, so I

542
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 2: feel like you're looking up.

543
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

544
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: Yep.

545
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: She walks in and we see her dog, Henry.

546
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: You think she's got a new man, but in fact

547
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: she has a little Jack Russell or rat Terrier. I

548
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: don't know, not a good dog breed choice for Charlotte,

549
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 2: but she's gonna make it work, right.

550
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: And I remember that dog.

551
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: That dog was adorable, and we had the sweetest dog

552
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: trainers back then. And I have like such early like

553
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: flirtations with Charlotte and dogs, which obviously came to be

554
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: a very very prevalent part of Charlotte's character. But I

555
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: love dogs, so I was always really into it. So

556
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: this dog, Henry's there, and until Charlotte finds the perfect man,

557
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: she's gonna have the perfect.

558
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: Dog, which is cute.

559
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 2: Then we have to go back to Samantha with this

560
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: poor guy James, and I just feel so bad for

561
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: that actor.

562
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Ooh, I wonder what happened to him? We should take

563
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: him up. Yeah, it's very cute. Yeah.

564
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 2: But so James confront Samantha about the fact that they

565
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: haven't had sex, I believe in like a month or

566
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: something like this, though they're still together, and she says

567
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: she's tired and she doesn't want to have sex, which

568
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: of course the whole entire audience knows is not true

569
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 2: at all.

570
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 4: Right, she was trying to be nice until she couldn't

571
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: be anymore exactly.

572
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: The therapist agreed with her.

573
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: I know, which was really funny, and I remember her

574
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: so well. There are moments that don't remember at all,

575
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: and there are moments that I remember like they were yesterday.

576
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: And that therapist she was such a great actress. She

577
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: was great, hilarious, hilarious, hilarious.

578
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: So then we go so we check in with Samantha.

579
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: This is when, also from just a structure perspective, this

580
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 2: episode is the first episode where I really feel like

581
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: all this plots are working really well independently and also

582
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: take right, Like everyone has a great plot, but they're

583
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: all kind of braided together and we bop tail apartments,

584
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: which is what we continue to do. But this is

585
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: the first time I really feel like it's working well.

586
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: So we go to Samantha's apartment. She's still trying with James.

587
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: We go to Miranda's apartment, this dirty talk situation continues.

588
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: It's really adorable. Yeah, it gets better.

589
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: Miranda tries and then he gets really turned on and

590
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: then she's she like leans into it real hard, and

591
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: she seems When I look at Cynthia in these scenes,

592
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: I think and I have to ask her that she

593
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: had done a play in between first and second season

594
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 2: where she had to wear a wig, and so she

595
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: buzzed her hair really short because it made the wig easier.

596
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: And I went to see the play and I was like, Cynthia,

597
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: where's your hair? She was like, ah, I buzzed it,

598
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: you know, Cynthia. And I was like, but they might

599
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: have some feelings about that, you know, at work when

600
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: we go back, like, you.

601
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 3: Know what, care?

602
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: She didn't editor her mind. So her her hair is

603
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: like this long, and it's kind of dark.

604
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

605
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like quite uh punk rock.

606
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wants to be punk rock, and you can

607
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: tell they're trying to make it almost in a weird

608
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: eighties like, but it's really just sticking straight up. It

609
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: makes me laugh so hard. But I also feel like

610
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: she seems so innocent, in certain ways, like when they're

611
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: in those big close ups of her face when she's

612
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: trying to talk dirty.

613
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: She looks so young.

614
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 3: It was it's so brave. It was so brave. I know,

615
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: it's kind of a fearless actress.

616
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: She is a fearless actress.

617
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: And it's so funny.

618
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: And it's also like, if you think about where we

619
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: were in time, it's sing great.

620
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: Well.

621
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 4: She was so endearing because she was authentically freeing herself

622
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: because one of the lines in that scene is she says.

623
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: Cock cock cock cock cock.

624
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: She laughing and she goes, oh, that's so fun to say.

625
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: Why couldn't I say that before? And it's very sweet

626
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: and innocent and very endearing because she just breaks the spell.

627
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 3: It's just a word. Yeah, right, it's how you want

628
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: to use it.

629
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's just so great. She's so great, Like those

630
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: scenes so great. So then we got to my apartment

631
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: and you guys have come over, which is adorable, yes,

632
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: And it's such a cute shot from a funny angle,

633
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: like from the dog's pov of us sitting on the

634
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: bed and I'm trying to make him do tricks and

635
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: he's not doing the tricks, and you guys look very

636
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: displeased with me.

637
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: I did not want to be there, non Charon wanted

638
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: to get.

639
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: Home, definitely.

640
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: She wants to get home her codependent husband to call.

641
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: That's right, which is kind of sad. This is a

642
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: little sad moment for sharing. And it's also funny because

643
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: the phone right, like, you have to get back by

644
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: the landline for himself. Yeah, no cell phone people. Oh

645
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: my gosh. So even though you've left and you felt free,

646
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: now you're really wanting him to call, which I think

647
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: is kind of sad but also very you know, very real,

648
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: and you're kind of slightly defending him, which is also

649
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: you know, it seems like Carrie doesn't really know what

650
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: she should say or shouldn't say, you know what I mean.

651
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: You were the tough one in that scene. I asked

652
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 4: the dog. I'm like, Henry, what do you think? And

653
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: the dog goes to bite me, and then you pull

654
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: the dog back and you say he's a dog, not

655
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: an oracle.

656
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: Which is a good one. That's a good one. I

657
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. So then we go back

658
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: to Carrie's.

659
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: And you are like in a weird passed out position,

660
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: which is really funny when the flowers come, do you remember.

661
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had me lay upside down on the chase.

662
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's nowhere to sleep.

663
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: And I was snoring. They were like snore and I'm

664
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: like really, They're like, yes.

665
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. I love it. I love it.

666
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: So someone's at the door, which I also think is funny.

667
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: There's been there were people in watching and just like

668
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: that who criticized a time when character comes up to

669
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: Carrie's door and buzzes the buzzer because you know, like

670
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: in New York you have the buzzer down on the

671
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: street to let someone else's true, and sometimes we don't

672
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: do that, but I think we don't do that for time.

673
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: Right, So somebody in the apartment let him in.

674
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: Right, because like I mean, he's still buzzing. It's not

675
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: like she just opens the door, which would not be

676
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: very in New York at all. But who has the time,

677
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, to buzz and then wait and then you know, nobody. Yeah,

678
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: it's a lot of work.

679
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: We have to move it along.

680
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: Right, There's a delivery person coming to Carry's apartment and

681
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: we are now it carries birthday. So when we start

682
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: the episode, you're giving her an early birthday gift, the

683
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: cashmiicle sweater. And now it is actually Carrie's birthday and

684
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: she's getting a delivery of very glamorous red roses and

685
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: the card says best wishes on your birthday, and somehow

686
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: she knows that this is from Big, which is kind

687
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: of entertaining to me.

688
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: And cut to the coffee shop. This scene I remember

689
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: like it was yesterday.

690
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: I Charlotte talks about the grand gesture, that this is

691
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: a brand gesture after the breakup, right, and this is

692
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: very romantic, very romantic, very Charlotte, and I think, very

693
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: true to life. Yes he's trying, Yeah, yeah, let's look

694
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: at the positive he's trying. And then Miranda and Samantha

695
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: do not think that this is the grand gesture. And

696
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: I kind of get their points as well, like if

697
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: it was a grand gesture, he should have written more

698
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: on that card.

699
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: Well, Samantha says she should have given her jewelry. That's

700
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: really that's what counts as the grand gesture.

701
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: Right.

702
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't know that I agree with that, because I

703
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: always feel.

704
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: Like diamonds are not a girl's best friend.

705
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Well, it can be like bribery or whatever, like a

706
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: weird dreaming sure, but.

707
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: I'd rather get bribed with jewelry than roses.

708
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: Would you, Okay, yes, I always feel like jewelry. If

709
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: jewelry is being given in a in a i'm sorry

710
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: type situation, I don't know. I'm like, nah, I don't

711
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: want to be bought, you know, I don't know.

712
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: You can. You can pull a carry and trade it

713
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: in for the.

714
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: Cash, exactly, exactly exactly. I would rather like an emotional

715
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: like like the way if someone were wanting to apologize

716
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: to me, I would want like a card that had

717
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: some emotion in it that would.

718
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: Let me let me know when you get that.

719
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: I will, Molly, I will.

720
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: You're right.

721
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: It's a big it's a big it's a big ass.

722
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.

723
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: So Charlotte, I have Henry with me at the coffee shop,

724
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: which I also remember. This was a little challenging because

725
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: the coffee shop is always a very very long day,

726
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: and I remember having the dog and trying to shoot

727
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 2: the dog out, you know what I mean. And at

728
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: one point Charlotte leaves early, which was to get me

729
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: and the dog out, I think, And the dog is

730
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: now trying theoretically to chew on purses because I tell

731
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: them that he's already chewed on shoes, which is of

732
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: course the beginning of the end of my relationship with

733
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: this dog.

734
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: That he's trying on the shoes.

735
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: We have to have a line in the sand.

736
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: Totally, totally. So we're at the coffee shop. I get

737
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: up and I say that that he's misbehaving, and I

738
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: go and then we're at care and Carrie's wondering again.

739
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: She does a lot of thinking in this episode.

740
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: If Charlotte is right, was he saying I was wrong

741
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: with the gesture?

742
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Now?

743
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: I mean, really, Charlotte is giving Big a lot of

744
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: credit that he was saying, I'm as I was wrong,

745
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: because I don't really think that's what he's saying.

746
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't think so at all.

747
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

748
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: So then Carrie calls Big, Oh yeah, this was big mistake. Mistake, Yeah, big.

749
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: Mistake, big mistake, because once you let him back in, ooh,

750
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: you don't know what he's going to say.

751
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: And so she calls him. I mean, I get it.

752
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: She's being polite, she's calling to thank him for the flowers,

753
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: and of course she's calling him to open that door

754
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: back up right.

755
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely more than the door, yes.

756
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: More than the door, I know what you're saying. So

757
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: then of course she's like, he says, oh, what are

758
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: you doing for a big day? And she says, Oh,

759
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: We're having a party at Laylah I believe it is

760
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: a Leila yes and restaurant, and she goes, you should come,

761
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: and then she's like, ah, you know, I know, And

762
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: then he says, oh, I might have to bring someone,

763
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: which really seems horrible, like it's going to be a girl.

764
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: And I literally had the thought like, is he going

765
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 2: to bring Bridget? Like is you know, the future missus

766
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: Big already in the picture. But thank god, no, I

767
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: was wrong. No, I was like, when does this all happen?

768
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: Because I don't really remember all the details, you know.

769
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: Oh.

770
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Then, oh, so we're.

771
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: Left with Carrie having invited Big to her birthday and

772
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: he's theoretically going to bring a date, which is about

773
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: the worst scenario possible. Then we have to go to

774
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: the therapist office with Samantha.

775
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: Mmm mmmmm. I mean I was like, this.

776
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: Poor poor Samantha, the least place she would probably ever

777
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: ever ever want to be.

778
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: I did not.

779
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 1: No, I mean you can imagine that she would.

780
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 3: She liked to one night stand.

781
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: Totally or just generally good sex right like in whatever

782
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: doesn't totally good sex is good and very important.

783
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking for this. Oh it's Marilyn so called. She's

784
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: doctor Velma.

785
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 3: She's really good, amazing into me, yes, into me c.

786
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: Very good, very good.

787
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: She's really nice too, really really nice. And I feel

788
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 2: I almost feel like she comes back at some point.

789
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: But maybe she just came to the parties and we

790
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: hung out with her. I don't know, but she's really

791
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: nice and she was great. So they're at the therapists

792
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: office and poor Samantha, all she wants to say is

793
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: that this person's you know, member is too small, but

794
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: she has to say everything.

795
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: But so they're talking.

796
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: Around around why they're not having sex and the therapist

797
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: and she says it. Then she just can't hold it

798
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: back anymore. When they talk about coming back to therapy,

799
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: yes to.

800
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: Me, I'll see your same time next week. And now

801
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 3: that's it. Man.

802
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: They push Samantha too far.

803
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: She can't hold her mouth anymore, and she says that

804
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: it's just too small for her, and he, of course

805
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: is more very mortified. Yes, good word, and he leaves,

806
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: and then the therapist is like, I feel you basically,

807
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 2: I hear that, I hear that very good, good memory,

808
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: and I'm relieved. I'm frankly relieved that this poor man

809
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: is like freed from this situation and that's America.

810
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it was a win win.

811
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: I can't even really believe that she hung in there

812
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: that long.

813
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Oh now, now we go back to Danio Beeppe, and

814
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I just love these scenes so much. So

815
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: now Marian is just like talking and talking and talking,

816
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: and then she he's they're they're at post coital and

817
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: he says, you know, what do you what do I like?

818
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: He's like, what do you like? And what do I like?

819
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: And you know, it's kind of hot, and she's talking

820
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: about all the different things. And then I don't even

821
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: know if I'm going to be able to repeat this,

822
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: but she basically says something that she thinks he likes

823
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: and that is not okay to say out loud, so he.

824
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: Gets weirded out. There you go, And man, was the

825
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: writing brave incredibly.

826
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: That was a shocker, definitely, And I remember at the

827
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: time being like, oh, you know, like, what are we doing?

828
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: And then we say it again at the dinner table.

829
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: We totally about it at the dinner.

830
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: Table, I know, very freely, very really interesting.

831
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: Also, who knew that was the one thing you couldn't

832
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 2: say exactly. I love it and I love this whole

833
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: the dinner and I remember these dancers.

834
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: I remember the Moroccan restaurant.

835
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: Do you remember, Yeah, beautiful, very sexy.

836
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: And so game, you know, because they were like, you know,

837
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: get right up next to Chris, you know, do this,

838
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: do that, and he's.

839
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Putting them money in there.

840
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: And it was so hard for him to remember. He

841
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: was really suffering. Yeah, it was very difficult for Chris.

842
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: He was really upset about it. Remember that he yeah,

843
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: I have like a time out.

844
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't remember that.

845
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was very sad, like he was like, I

846
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: don't know if I can keep doing this, having these

847
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: beautiful women belly dancing in front of me.

848
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: And we were like, come on, Chris, you could do.

849
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: And Willy is here.

850
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: Willy is here with us, which is so nice. I know,

851
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 2: Willy looking so young and beautiful.

852
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: Just a beautiful man, beautiful actor.

853
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: Such a beautiful man, beautiful actor, beautiful human being.

854
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: Yes, and when we go back in time and look

855
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: at him, oh, it gets me every time.

856
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay, I mean this is the beauty

857
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: that we live on film.

858
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: Rh there he is, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

859
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: Mean it seems like one hundred years ago sometimes and

860
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: then sometimes not, Like I remember those girls like it

861
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 2: was yesterday, and I remember we were there for quite

862
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: some time during the scene.

863
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 3: That was a long day.

864
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably into the night.

865
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Yes, a lot of barbe hamas.

866
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Oh and you're my mister mister was it? What do

867
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: we call him? He's so mad?

868
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: Is he? Mister? Mean to me?

869
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 4: He was so mean to me, Oh my god, like

870
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: got me turned on. That was like my dirty talk

871
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 4: Susan Sharon. She was just like, what did you say?

872
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 4: Could you say that again?

873
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 3: Louder?

874
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: I know, I was really nervous. I was really nervous

875
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: watching that that you were gonna like it.

876
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: It made me want to go home and be with

877
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: my husband.

878
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: I was glad that you chose your husband over mister marvelous.

879
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, because to me.

880
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: Mister marvelous, because every time we see him, I think

881
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: this is the second or third time we see him,

882
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, I just left some bitch.

883
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: At least I didn't have to give her my money.

884
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: This is like all he Ever says is so toxic.

885
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: But I mean, your husband is also scary. But we're

886
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: already missing him. We know you're already missing him, So

887
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: I mean I had a lot of feelings watching that. Okay,

888
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: oh oh, I talk about Harry my dog Henry, Henry

889
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: not Harry.

890
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: We're not to Harry yet.

891
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: Where Henry is a big love bug, which is kind

892
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: of adorable, doesn't pan out, but then thank god, big

893
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: shows up and he does not have a woman with him.

894
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: He has mister Marvelous with them, toxic man. But Carrie's

895
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: so happy that it's not a woman that she like

896
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: hugs him and you can see big spaces like wow,

897
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: I didn't think she liked mister Marvelous. I don't think

898
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 2: she does, but she's happy that he's not a date.

899
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: And then you're there and you're talking to mister Marvelous

900
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: and he tells her do you ever just shut the

901
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: fuck up? Which is kind of scary, And that was

902
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: the moment where you're like, wow, I really miss my husband.

903
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: I really miss my husband.

904
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that it comes full circle and that

905
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: the dog that I go home to find has been

906
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: a very messy and bad boy.

907
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 4: And has hooped in your hallway and and you know that's.

908
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: Not okay, that is not okay. But I'm really happy

909
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: that he finds a good home with you in the.

910
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 3: Hub where all three of us can be dysfunctional together.

911
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: Definitely, And he seems like the child you guys needed.

912
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: There you go. Everybody gets what they need.

913
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly right, they say.

914
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: The Carrie voiceover says that the dog Henry is the

915
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: glue that brings you and your husband back together. There

916
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: you go, And you guys look pretty happy on that couch.

917
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 3: We did.

918
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: We were actually we had a fun time.

919
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm so glad.

920
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: And now we're back on the New York street and

921
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: at the like the end of that night, and Carrie's

922
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 2: walking with Big. And I was very impressed with Carrie

923
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: in the scene because Carrie previously has not had a

924
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: lot of cover with Big, right, but she lets him

925
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: get in the cab and go, even though he looks

926
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: back at her. You know what, I'm sure he's hoping

927
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: that she's not gonna let him get in here.

928
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: Because he offers her a ride home, right, she says, no,

929
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 4: I'll catch a.

930
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: Cab right, and then he tries to give her cab fare,

931
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: which is.

932
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 4: A little weird, really weird, Like she says, no, thank god,

933
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: she's not a child, you know.

934
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: What I meant it.

935
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got it, thank god. And then he goes

936
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: to get in his old town car, which is so charming,

937
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: and looks back at her and she just lets him go.

938
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: So I was very proud of Carrie there. I thought

939
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: that was really good.

940
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: That was a beautiful ending too, because the camera it

941
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 4: was like a crane shot and it lifted way up

942
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: into the sky and you just see her like really

943
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 4: small in her red dress making her way through Manhattan,

944
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 4: and was very inspiring and heartbreaking at the same time

945
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 4: because you wanted them to be together, but you were

946
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 4: so proud of her that she she didn't get sucked in.

947
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: Definitely, most definitely.

948
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 2: And it's also I love anything where in the olden

949
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: days when we would film the streets because they.

950
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: Look old and different.

951
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like doesn't look different. Doesn't it

952
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: look different to you?

953
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: Moly? New York is I don't even know New York anymore.

954
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: Right when I go back, it's a totally different city.

955
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: I mean right, It was so gritty and sexy and

956
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: fun and spirited.

957
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: And all the artists have left. I know, they all

958
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: be passed out by banks and CBS.

959
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 4: It's like it's a totally different city because all the

960
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: artists moved to Brooklyn.

961
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: That's true, Yes, that is true.

962
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: That is when you go to Brooklyn, it feels like

963
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: old New York to me.

964
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: Definitely. Most definitely like.

965
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: I lived in Chelsea for like thirty five years and

966
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: like the meatpacking district, actually the meatpacking district, like it

967
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: was full of rats and rats of beef.

968
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: Like that's what I remember. People like want to go

969
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: dancing in the meatpacking district.

970
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: I was like, what, I know, dancing and shopping. It's

971
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: crazy rats and you know.

972
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: And you could smell you could smell the meat.

973
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: You could smell the meat.

974
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember too, It is crazy.

975
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 4: I know.

976
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: That's why I love I love the When we do

977
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: get a nice wide shot of the streets, it's so evocative,

978
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: you know, like you can remember what it was like

979
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: back then and how empty it looks, really empty, you know.

980
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well because they probably shot it at you know,

981
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 4: four in the morning.

982
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt, no doubt, because there would have been

983
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: twenty million people, had they not? So, you guys, it's

984
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: been so much fun talking to Molly Price, and I

985
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: really wanted to talk to her a little bit about

986
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: coming on too, and just like that. So we're going

987
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: to have another episode where we talk about all the

988
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: things that went on and when Molly came back to

989
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: see us on and just like that, and so listen

990
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: later this week.

991
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: All right,