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Speaker 2: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one

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Speaker 1: eleven productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcasts. We are at season three,

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Speaker 1: episode eight, and this is entitled Let the Games Begin.

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Speaker 1: Air date November nineteenth, two thousand and two, and we're

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Speaker 1: joined by a very special guest, Emily Osmond. Welcome, Emily.

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Speaker 1: How are you so good?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a pleasure to have you. You are freezing

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Speaker 1: over there at Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 3: I am, Yes, I am.

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Speaker 2: I am about probably twenty five yards from Luke Steyn

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Speaker 2: right now, which.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say about twenty five yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's a soul cold here. Everywhere it's freezing.

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Speaker 1: All the California right now is experiencing a little cold snap. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: after after oceans of rain. But you're over there at

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Speaker 1: Warner Brothers. You're shooting your hit show Georgie and Mandy

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Speaker 1: on CBS. We're thrilled to have you. You're a big

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Speaker 1: Gilmore fan. We're going to get into it. Let's synopsize

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Speaker 1: here while visiting new Haven, Connecticut. Richard announces that he

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Speaker 1: has arranged a surprise visit an interview for Rory with

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Speaker 1: the dean of admissions at Yale University, not Harvard, but

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Speaker 1: at Yale. Oh, there's trouble in River City and the

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Speaker 1: sheriffs Laura l I and she's going to be putting

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Speaker 1: a hurting down on any violators. Jess and Rory start

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Speaker 1: to date, and this worries Luke. Director Steve Robman and

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Speaker 1: this very little known writer, up and coming writer name

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Speaker 1: or Amy Sherman Palladino. Are you guys aware of anything

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Speaker 1: she's done?

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Speaker 4: Me?

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Speaker 3: Definitely not.

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Speaker 2: No, never anything else that she's done ever, No, Emmy's

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Speaker 1: Definitely no, okay, just one of the giants of the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry. Before we get into it, Emily, what made

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Speaker 1: you start watching Gilmore Girls?

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Speaker 3: That is an excellent question. Well, an answer you're probably

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Speaker 2: I think why I initially started watching Gilmore Girls is

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Speaker 2: when Gilmore Girls was really hitting it stride, I was

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Speaker 2: and of course, was fascinated by the concept of this show.

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Speaker 3: All my friends were watching it, and my parents were.

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Speaker 2: it was something I could never watch until I was

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Speaker 2: in my probably early twenties, and I went through. I

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Speaker 2: with it, and now, to be quite honest, probably every

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Speaker 2: year since then, I have gone through it again.

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Speaker 5: It's required at this point, it's required of a girl.

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Speaker 1: There's no question. There's no question. How many times would

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Speaker 3: Done the math and I really am.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, it's probably like thousands of hours of Gilmore

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Speaker 2: Girls at this point, like probably spent like an entire year. Well,

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Speaker 2: let's think what you got five seasons right, without including

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Speaker 2: the that we're sad sorry, seven seasons without including the

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Speaker 2: four one hour episodes that aired recently. And then I

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Speaker 2: we're just adding to the watch our count at this point.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's a lot a perfect show.

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Speaker 2: It's a I'm just it's wonderful to sink in and

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Speaker 2: pull yourself out of whatever is going on in your

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Speaker 2: life and PLoP yourself down into Stars Hollow.

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Speaker 3: It's perfect.

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Speaker 1: It does have that medicinal therapeutic vibe to it, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely Yeah, it's impossible not to feel better after viewing

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Speaker 1: Wonderful show.

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Speaker 5: So I have a question as somebody who's done a

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Speaker 5: lot of work at Warner Brothers and both young Sheldon

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Speaker 2: It's I wouldn't say weird. I love it so much.

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Speaker 2: But no, when I have like friends and family come visit,

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Speaker 1: All right awesome, And before we get to into the recap,

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Speaker 1: little bit. Rory comes over after school and she to

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Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, well, Ory and Jests are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, If not romantically, at least a good close friend

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Speaker 3: Do you remember where they where did they shoot Yale?

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Speaker 3: Did you guys ever, guys ever go to Occidental College?

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Speaker 1: Right? Right, He's still the wound is still a little

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Speaker 1: You know all all all young guys have been through that,

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Speaker 2: It's past this one, but or no, it's before it's

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Speaker 1: You think that Rory is moving on too soon after

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Speaker 5: You know, there's not a lot of options.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of options like let let her move

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Speaker 1: Just no, no, no, no, they're just they're glad that

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Speaker 2: And I was just realizing something the other day. I

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Speaker 2: was telling this story about Frank Lloyd Wright and his

440
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Speaker 2: house burning down.

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Speaker 3: Because he was impolite to the people that worked for him.

442
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Speaker 3: And I couldn't remember why I.

443
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Speaker 2: Knew that story, and it was because girls that I

444
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Speaker 2: had heard it initially, and like, I've been to Falling Water,

445
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Speaker 2: you know, Frank Lloyd Wright Junior is all these houses

446
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Speaker 2: in Pasadena. You know, I am educated architecture, and like,

447
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Speaker 2: I know.

448
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: It because of this show.

449
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Speaker 2: And there's been so many moments like that in my

450
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Speaker 2: life where you know, the the cultural references that are

451
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: made on this show are just so thick and I

452
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: would watch an episode and be like, I actually don't

453
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Speaker 2: know who that is and I would look something up.

454
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Speaker 2: So for me, it was it was easy watching, but

455
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Speaker 2: also it sort of ticked a part of my brain

456
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Speaker 2: that because it was shot in you know, I don't

457
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Speaker 2: know what was you said two thousand and two. When

458
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Speaker 2: did you guys start two thousand and two? Two thousand Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I mean there's things that A referenced from like

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, a lot of Bush references.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, that's what year it was.

462
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Speaker 1: Did you watching the show influence your your career in

463
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Speaker 1: any way? Were you already kind of on your way

464
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Speaker 1: and your career.

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Speaker 2: It made me I was already working at that point,

466
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Speaker 2: but I think watching it, you know, because I watched

467
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Speaker 2: it and I really twenties, it just made me feel

468
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Speaker 2: sad that I didn't go away to school, like go

469
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Speaker 2: away to a big school. And I grew up in

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Speaker 2: LA and I wanted to stay in LA to work,

471
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Speaker 2: and so my options for college were not as large.

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Speaker 2: And I always wanted to go to an East Coast school.

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Speaker 2: And I think that was probably because I saw it

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Speaker 2: on TV all the time.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Now, which character on the show did you

476
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Speaker 1: relate to the most?

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Speaker 3: Net Well, it changes, okay, because let's see, as.

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Speaker 2: A woman in my early thirties, I'd have to say

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Speaker 2: probably Emily.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I think she's a little no nonsense.

482
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Speaker 2: I think she's has her opinions and she's often right,

483
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Speaker 2: but she sort of doesn't do them all correctly. But

484
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Speaker 2: I think she's a fascinating character. I really I love

485
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Speaker 2: I love that character. Everyone else in my life would

486
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Speaker 2: probably say Laura Alive.

487
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Speaker 1: But sure, yeah, I don't think anybody had more I

488
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Speaker 1: don't think an actress had more fun with a part

489
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Speaker 1: than Oh god, A history of TV in her. Yeah,

490
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: and Lauren just had a blast every day getting to

491
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Speaker 1: do those lines. You know. Yeah, Okay, let's go back

492
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Speaker 1: to two thousand. But you're the age you are now, okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: You go to a Gilmore audition and you're you have

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Speaker 1: a choice to be cast as one of the characters

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Speaker 1: in the show. Who would it be?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Paris Killer. Absolutely, that is the most righteous character

497
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Speaker 2: she is. It's just such a very interesting, very well done,

498
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Speaker 2: very angry character, and it's.

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Speaker 3: So I love love that character.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, well, okay, with your quite extensive career in television,

501
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Speaker 1: that's growing and growing and growing. When you watch a

502
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Speaker 1: show like gilmour is it with a different eye, because

503
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Speaker 1: you know what takes to write a good TV show.

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Speaker 2: I think, whether I realize it or not, every time

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Speaker 2: I watch a show for some reason, I'm like, well,

506
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Speaker 2: what time did they shoot that? You know, they're playing

507
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: that for Sunrise, but kind of looks like something, you know,

508
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Speaker 2: I kind of take myself out of it a little bit,

509
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: and I think, because I've worked at Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 3: For the past oh gosh, what.

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Speaker 2: The helld am I probably ten years or so, you know,

512
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Speaker 2: maybe longer that actually my first job was one of

513
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Speaker 2: my first jobs at Warner Brothers was an episode of Friends.

514
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Speaker 2: So I've been at Warner Brothers for a long time

515
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: and working here and going home and then watching Gilmore Girls.

516
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Speaker 2: It's like I never leave work a little bit, which

517
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: probably isn't good for my mental health. But yeah, I

518
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: mean watching that show, you realize, God, you guys must

519
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: have just studied your lines forever, forever and ever. It's

520
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: so many words. And I have a lot of respect

521
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Speaker 2: for that because the show that I work on, you know,

522
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: we move really quickly, but it doesn't change all that

523
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: much throughout the week. And your we're your scripts were

524
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Speaker 2: what one hundred one hundred and something pages.

525
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Speaker 1: You know, they were eighty eighty eighty plus of just

526
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Speaker 1: like solid.

527
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Speaker 3: Solid dialogue.

528
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Speaker 2: It's so much and we're about forty forty to forty

529
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Speaker 2: to forty five, you know, So it's it's half of

530
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Speaker 2: what you guys have.

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Speaker 1: You're doing a multi multi camp.

532
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Speaker 3: It's a multicam.

533
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Speaker 1: Oh what a joy.

534
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: It's wonderful. It's wonderful.

535
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: I need to rehearse, rehearse.

536
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Speaker 3: I know. Did you guys do did you table reads

537
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Speaker 3: at all? Probably not?

538
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Oh sure, Oh you did Oh, that's very helpful.

539
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: At least you have that.

540
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's it's a lot and you're outside

541
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Speaker 2: and then you're inside and you're shooting it sixty different ways,

542
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: and it's it's a single cam.

543
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: Is a lot of work. So I have a lot

544
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Speaker 3: of respect for that.

545
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Speaker 1: We did a lot of it. Boy, you're in a

546
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: great situation.

547
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: Boy, you get to very grateful.

548
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so great. They weren't doing a lot

549
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: of those. This is they're not doing a lot of

550
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: those anymore.

551
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: No, And I'm I'm you know, I worked for Chuck

552
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Lorie Enterprises, so he's kind of he's got his finger

553
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: on the multiicam pulls for sure.

554
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: So if you're going to do one, he'd be the

555
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: guy to do it with you.

556
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: He's incredible. This is my fifth show with him, and.

557
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: He's he's amazing and he's keeping me employed.

558
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: It's nice. So grateful, all.

559
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: Right, So let's talk about Georgie and Mandy's first marriage.

560
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: It's airing its second season right now on CBS. What's

561
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: your favorite thing about filming and being part of this cast.

562
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: I love this cast so much.

563
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: You know a lot of these characters came over from

564
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: Young Sheldon, which this is you know, uh, sort of

565
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: in the same timeline as Young Sheldon. So we have

566
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: a closeness that I don't know if we would have

567
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: had if we just started fresh on the pilot with

568
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: nobody knowing each other. I'd known Montana Jordan, who plays Georgie,

569
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Speaker 2: my husband. I've known Montana for I think we did

570
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: the Math like five years now, and two of those

571
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: have been here. And it's easy. It's easy when you

572
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 2: like each other. It's easy when the hours are nice,

573
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: and it's easy when it's really well written and you

574
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: can remember it better when it's well written. I've always

575
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: found if you can't remember a line, it's probably not

576
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: written very well. And it's just such a joy. Everybody

577
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: gets along so well. Everybody brings their little dogs to work,

578
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: and we're just it really is a family.

579
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Speaker 3: And it's not just the cast.

580
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Speaker 2: I mean this crew came over from Young Sheldon as well,

581
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Speaker 2: and we all know each other really well. And we

582
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Speaker 2: get to do a live audience every Tuesday night.

583
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Speaker 1: Are you film on Tuesday nights?

584
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Speaker 2: We've film on Tuesday nights, which I've only ever done

585
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Speaker 2: Friday night shows for live for MULTIICAM and At first,

586
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, I'm gonna forget it over

587
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Speaker 2: the weekend. And then I realized, oh, if you're a

588
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: Tuesday night show, you're out of work at two pm

589
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: on Friday, you can like actually have a weekend, which.

590
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: I've never ever had before. So I'm like, I'm taking trips,

591
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: I'm going out. It's like, it's incredible. I've never been

592
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: able to do that when.

593
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: I because you're filming Friday night, you're not out there.

594
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: You're out there one am or something like that.

595
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: Actually you'll be Our shows are only about an hour

596
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: and a half.

597
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Speaker 2: What yeah, yeah, actually last night last night we got

598
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Speaker 2: out at eight eleven six.

599
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, we're it's it's short, We're quick.

600
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Speaker 1: How are you doing it that?

601
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: We're really good? It's wow, We're like seamless. It's it's

602
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: such a well oiled machine.

603
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: And that's not just us, you know, that's our that's

604
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: our crew on stage, that's everybody.

605
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: We just they move so quick.

606
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: We got an Emmy winning camera crew working here from

607
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Speaker 2: Big Bankery.

608
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: It's like it's amazing.

609
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: And so the audience, you're always getting those initial reactions

610
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: that are makeing the final cut, right, yeah.

611
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Making the final cut, and then also helping you decide,

612
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: you know, a joke you've done a thousand times during rehearsal,

613
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: some guy in the back laughs in a place you're

614
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: not used to, and it completely changes the way you

615
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 2: deliver it.

616
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 3: And it's it's you know, it's theater. It's awesome.

617
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so good. I love that.

618
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 5: I have a question speaking about Young Sheldon. So, Lance

619
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: Barber was in two episodes of Gilbert Hibbles. So have

620
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Speaker 5: you ever like talked about that with him or Yeah?

621
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: I actually I've talked more about his time on It's

622
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: Always Sunny because I think his character, It's Always Sonny,

623
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: is such a riot.

624
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was because he plays ror. He plays

625
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: the reporter that works for.

626
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: It's like an online yeah, which was really new back then,

627
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: the website that he wants her to write for or something.

628
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 5: And he was also in the season one episode too

629
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Speaker 5: is a Random Guy?

630
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Speaker 3: Was he really? Yeah?

631
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Speaker 5: He in the fashion show episode. He's the guy fixing

632
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 5: the stage.

633
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: No way, So they just brought him back as they

634
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: liked him and gave him or that that character is

635
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: not the same character different.

636
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Speaker 5: It was like six years apart, So I yeah.

637
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: Maybe a different guy.

638
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've heard some stories about how the Kirk

639
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: character became Kirk and.

640
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: That's just the wildest story. And television that somebody that

641
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: comes in for one thing is the series regular after

642
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: the first season. Ye amazing.

643
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: All right, well, Eily, we got to wrap this up.

644
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: Please come back. We have a lot more to unpacked

645
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: with you and everybody. And what night is Georgie and Mandy.

646
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: On Thursday nights eight o'clock on CBS.

647
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Speaker 1: Check it out. The one and only Emily Osman. You

648
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: know where your lover her. Thank you so much for

649
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: your time and remember, best fans on the planet, keep

650
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: the cards and letters coming. We so appreciate it. And

651
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: remember to get your tickets for holidays made here. Go

652
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Speaker 1: to wb tours dot com and get your tickets. Well,

653
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Speaker 1: I will be there.

654
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 5: Emily should stop by too, I should stop by.

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Speaker 1: You got to stop by. I have a seventeen day

656
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: residency going there from December eighteenth to January fourth. Be

657
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: closed Christmas Day, however, but every other day I'm going

658
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Speaker 1: to be there. Come on by, Emily, let us know

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