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Speaker 1: And welcome in Lake Becaus Live. It is Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: October sixth year. All are in twenty twenty two. We

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Speaker 1: are not live high on top downtown Nashville, Tennessee. No,

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Speaker 1: we are live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Rounders the place to be in.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much everyone who's in Tuscaloosa is here right now.

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Speaker 3: We got major upsets probably coming this week. We got

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Speaker 3: a huge game down the road an m only about

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Speaker 3: a twenty four or soap point underdog, so I'm sure

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Speaker 3: that'll be close this Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 3: But look, before we get into this tonight, if I

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Speaker 3: were to start a role tight chan, how would we

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Speaker 2: A lively crowd here at Rounders in tuscal Loose.

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Speaker 3: I got a special guest, a longtime friend of this

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Speaker 3: program that most of you know, but I'll introduce them

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Speaker 3: a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: I got some added best bets.

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Speaker 3: Look, they're watching us all over really the world and

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Speaker 3: the country, but most importantly they're tuning into tuscal Loose,

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Speaker 3: Alabama to night. They're gathered in tuscal Loose, Alabama night

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Speaker 3: and we appreciate them being here. We got a lot

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Speaker 3: to get to Firstly, ten of the top twenty five

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Speaker 3: teams in the country went down last week, Okay, so

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Speaker 3: we want to get out in front of that.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to look like we have egg all

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Speaker 2: over our.

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Speaker 3: Face when Saturday the dust settles and you've lost all

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Speaker 3: your money and you're talking to your parents about needing

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Speaker 2: So here's what I want to do.

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Speaker 3: I want to look at the slate this week and

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Speaker 3: I want to ask, where are those upsets coming? You

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Speaker 3: see what's on tap for the show tonight. We got

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Speaker 3: a lot of fun. We're probably gonna take some Q

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Speaker 3: and a live from the crowd, So just stay tuned.

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Speaker 3: It could go any of a number of different directions.

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Speaker 3: But let's dive into the shows really quick, or let's

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Speaker 3: dive into these games really quick. Arkansas's on the road

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Speaker 3: at Mississippi State. Bama just laid waste to Arkansas last week,

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Speaker 3: and I hope you people are happy with yourselves because

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Speaker 3: kJ Jefferson, quarterback for Arkansas, probably doesn't play this Saturday

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Speaker 3: on the road at Mississippi State.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback's in a bad way there. Okay, second, there in

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Speaker 2: a bad way there.

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Speaker 3: We saw that last week, bad vibes around that team

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Speaker 3: most of the time. I know Arkansas pretty well most

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Speaker 3: they're a dog and they're gonna pull that thing, you

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Speaker 3: normally feel it.

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Speaker 2: There's like a little ground swell locally.

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Speaker 3: I haven't felt that this week, and that line's crept

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Speaker 3: all the way up to like nine in favor.

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Speaker 2: Of Mississippi State.

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Speaker 3: Mississippi State had that click on moment for him last

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Speaker 3: of which we'll come into Tuscle loose A Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel this at all.

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Speaker 3: Mississippi State has won the last two in this series

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Speaker 3: A three. I really I don't get that upset vibe.

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Speaker 3: Will Rogers is rolling. I don't get that upset viban.

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Speaker 3: More importantly, I don't think anyone around Arkansas gets that

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Speaker 3: upset vibe. Michigan is at Indiana. This is a game

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be off everyone's radar. The line on this

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Speaker 3: thing's over three touchdowns, and I know what a lot

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Speaker 2: And I think that this game.

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Speaker 3: With Indiana ready to sell out against the run, is

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Speaker 2: I know it's a letdown spot. I know it's a

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Speaker 3: So if you want to talk to me about Indiana covering,

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Speaker 3: The game that full disclosure, I was gonna be at.

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Speaker 3: I was not gonna be in Tuscaloosa this evening. I

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Speaker 3: to Texas in week two and Bama goes into Austin

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Speaker 3: that game. Texas, though, feels like they're kind of ready

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Speaker 3: to a nine point favorite, and this opened at less

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Speaker 3: He has not played since that Bama game, the first

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Speaker 3: half of that Bama game. We also, likewise do not

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Speaker 3: don't feel a lot of energy around the Oklahoma program.

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Speaker 3: They have fumbled the bag horrifically the past two weeks.

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Speaker 3: So you've got the quarterback dynamic there. You've got the

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Speaker 3: not over. Trust me, it's not over. And they were right,

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Speaker 3: and Oklahoma storms all the way back and they win.

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Speaker 3: So you've got the quarterback edge. You got recent history

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Speaker 2: So got a buddy back in Nashville or I guess Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Now Tray Scott who claimed this line was going to

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Speaker 3: get to ten, it looks like he may be right.

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Speaker 3: I take Texas. I take him by double digits. I

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Speaker 3: put this at a five because I understand the rivalry aspect.

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Speaker 3: I've seen this game last year, a true story. At halftime,

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Speaker 3: I walked myself up the tunnel, I walked out of

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Speaker 3: and then I made it back in by kickoff of

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Speaker 2: So it's a really incredible atmosphere.

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Speaker 3: But we're not there because we don't go cover two

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Speaker 3: lost teams in October. That's just the way it is.

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Speaker 3: That's why we're here instead. Clemson at Boston College.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you guys think about Clemson?

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Speaker 2: Are you on board with Clemson? Something about recent history?

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Speaker 3: Clemson is about a three touchdown favorite at Boston College.

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Speaker 3: The line's about twenty and a half right now. I'm

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Speaker 3: looking on our monitors. So at Caesar's it's about twenty

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Speaker 3: the part of me that appreciates scheduling and how hard

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Speaker 3: in college football, that makes me look at this and

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Speaker 3: at least say, huh, let me set a reminder. Let

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Speaker 3: me make sure to check on this game, because I

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Speaker 3: know they had to be up for Wake Forest. It

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Speaker 3: I know that can you get a college team up

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Speaker 3: need to be to avoid stumbling here? But when I

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Speaker 3: look at how fat that line is, I keep coming

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Speaker 3: back to the idea of cover versus upset? Are they

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Speaker 3: going to cover? The model actually says no. For what

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Speaker 3: Boston College. What it doesn't like them to do, though,

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Speaker 3: is challenge in the fourth quarter because of the horrific

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Speaker 3: put this at a four, okay, because there still is

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Speaker 3: what happened last year when Clemson didn't click.

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Speaker 2: They're clicking this year so far.

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Speaker 3: But if you have that clunker of a game could

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Speaker 3: be closed, I'm gonna put it at a four. Lastly,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask about two more teams here. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: ask about a matchup. I just want you guys to

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Speaker 3: shout out who you would prefer to win this game.

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Speaker 2: Auburn versus Georgia.

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Speaker 3: So hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on just

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Speaker 3: a second, hold on, so just by a show of cheer,

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Speaker 3: if you would prefer Georgia to win this game, let

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Speaker 3: me hear you. If you would prefer Auburn to win

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Speaker 2: Okay. For those of you who live in Fargo, North Dakota.

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Speaker 3: Or South Dakota, you probably think that these people despise

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Speaker 3: They don't really care. That's why half of them are

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Speaker 2: Now, I have no idea how this were to happen.

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Speaker 3: Again, Georgia doesn't cover. I watched them last week, I

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Speaker 3: watched them the week before. But does anyone want to

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Speaker 3: Would anyone put their own money on that? I have

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Speaker 3: a really hard time. I have a hard I said,

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Speaker 3: put actual money on it, now, not just say it.

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Speaker 2: You're putting money on it? Could you please come here?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're talking Auburn Georgia. Here. I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 5: I'm Russell Die.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Russell. Do you I'm just gonna ask a personal question.

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Speaker 2: Are you broke or do you have money?

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Speaker 5: I mean, have a little bit of money?

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Speaker 3: A little bit of money, okay, and the last remaining

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Speaker 2: You would be willing to bet on Auburn.

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Speaker 5: I would. That's a minutes week.

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Speaker 6: He got a week quarterback, Give me Robbie Ashford and

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Speaker 6: take Bigsby. George's throwing two goose eggs out there against

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Speaker 6: Kin State and Missouri.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I'm feeling Auburn this game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now the follow up, hold on, let me let me,

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Speaker 3: let me just be fair. Here the follow up question

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Speaker 3: that I would to ask you, and here's an Academy

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Speaker 3: gift car for your troubles.

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Speaker 2: That's not charity.

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Speaker 3: It's because of what I'm about to do to you.

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Speaker 3: Could you tell me your favorite moment from Auburn quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: this year?

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Speaker 6: You know, Robbie Ashford had a really long block run

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Speaker 6: where you should have a lot of effort.

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Speaker 5: That it's that takes some heart right there.

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Speaker 6: I'm not seeing that out of stets a minute or

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Speaker 6: almost anybody on Georgia's team whatsoever. And I mean, I'm

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Speaker 6: just waiting for the SEC Championship game because Georgia makes it.

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Speaker 5: They're done for it.

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Speaker 2: Russell, I'm gonna shake your hand. I respect the boldness.

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Speaker 3: I cannot respect the pick necessarily, but I respect the boldness.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Are you ready? Are you ready to take Auburn?

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna do it? Are you gonna do it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Look, this is not happening, and I don't care

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Speaker 2: This is not happening Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Zero point five is the rating on which this upset

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Speaker 2: So yes, you could see some I just don't think

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Speaker 3: But look, the follow up question we're gonna ask it

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: Look, we're able to go on the road now, and

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Speaker 2: Just start throwing them to the crowd. There we go.

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Speaker 2: They are our exclusive partner. There you go, ma'am, There

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Speaker 7: I know the consequence is going to be cult for

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Speaker 8: The reparable head coach could come out and say this,

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Speaker 8: The parody in college football he's been talking about, go

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Speaker 8: all the parody. Go dig into wherever he's been. You

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Speaker 3: Here's what's wild when you think about them, yet, you

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Speaker 3: Let's let's get a free play over here, Let's get

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Speaker 2: Is is at his core.

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Speaker 2: And that's his old fan base. That's his old fan base.

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Speaker 4: of recruiting heat from nil, but at some point you

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00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 4: gotta perform on that, and they sold these players. There's

442
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 4: a lot of talent this year, bumper crop in the

443
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Speaker 4: Houston area. They sold them on the one game they

444
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 4: went on out against Alabama but still went like eight

445
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 4: and four. And in the year before the COVID year

446
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 4: where they I think they won ten eleven games. But

447
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 4: the problem is this year is kind of proof of

448
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 4: maybe who they are, not who they can sell themselves

449
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 4: to be. And then you start getting negative recruiting inertia,

450
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 4: and that's where the people with the money start getting worried.

451
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 3: How many people will be at this game Saturday night.

452
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 3: I can tell you I know nationally people look at

453
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 3: a twenty four point spread and they think, oh, that

454
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 3: one's not gonna be as attractive as it once was.

455
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 3: There are a lot of teams who come in here

456
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: and are three or four touchdown dogs, and sometimes the

457
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: crowd is what it is. I think it's gonna be

458
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 3: extremely hostile Saturday. I think it's gonna be it's gonna

459
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Speaker 3: be a piper plot.

460
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Speaker 4: But how much of that twenty four point spread is

461
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 4: baking in questions on quarterback? Right? Because I think if

462
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 4: I'll put you this way, especially with Hanskin play on Saturday,

463
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 4: I think that if there was no question about around quarterback,

464
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Speaker 4: we'd be looking at what Arkansas Alabama should have been

465
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 4: before Bryce Young got hurt, and that would have been

466
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 4: fifty one to ten something like that.

467
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 3: All right, Look, Jalen Milrose got his shot Saturday. He

468
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: does if he's the starter, and we think he is.

469
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 3: I know everyone knows Bryce Young. Jalen Milroe is really

470
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: really popular on campus.

471
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Speaker 2: They love Jalen.

472
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Speaker 3: Milroe, and I would venture to think maybe Saturday you'll

473
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: find out why. All right, Look, I think Mississippi State's

474
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: extremely underrated.

475
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 2: I think Utah is extremely underrated.

476
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Speaker 3: TCU, though, was a team that you were talking to

477
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Speaker 3: me about earlier today. You think they're extremely underrated, and

478
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 3: I kind of had to agree with you.

479
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that right now we don't know where

480
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 4: to rate him. I think after Saturday we'll know a

481
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 4: couple of things. But really, Kansas, like we picked TCU

482
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 4: to be Kansas, but I think what's gonna happen because

483
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 4: Kansas is a good football team and it's not just

484
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: a nice story because a lot of people want to

485
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: make that to be a nice story, and they haven't

486
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 4: played anybody whatever. Kansas is a legitimately good football team.

487
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: So if TCU beats them, what it's gonna do more

488
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 4: than anything is confirm what happened last week and that

489
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 4: wasn't a flu and that Oklahoma didn't they didn't have

490
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: prep time for Oklahoma or they had a knucklehead game.

491
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: That's just who they are. And you know, we talk

492
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 4: about how hard it is to do a top ten

493
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Speaker 4: every Sunday night. TCU wins that game by one point,

494
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: they're in my top ten.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the other thing that's happening. You know, Oklahoma's

496
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: headed to the SEC. You know Texas is headed to

497
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: the SEC. What you're starting to see right now is

498
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of jockeying amongst the teams

499
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 3: that are gonna be there for the long haul, whatever

500
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: the long haul is right now in the era of

501
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: conference realignment. But TCU, it's one of those programs people

502
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: have always talked about in the South. They talk about

503
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech and ooh, I wonder if anyone could ever

504
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: get it right there. And Gary Patterson was at TCU forever,

505
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 3: it felt like, and Sunny Dykes has gone over there,

506
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: and it's.

507
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: Just that it's that snap Man's that.

508
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: Lightning factor, and all of a sudden you look at

509
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 3: him and you say, where did these players come from? Well,

510
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: some of them were always there, they just weren't necessarily

511
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 3: utilizing the way they are.

512
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Speaker 4: But are you surprised that it's happened this.

513
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Speaker 3: Fast in fifteen I would say, yeah, Now I'm not

514
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: surprised that anything happens like that anymore. And I also

515
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: think when you watch what Lifehold's doing at Kansas, obviously

516
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: what Sunny.

517
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: Dyke's is doing.

518
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: You've got Lincoln Riley doing it a different way, sure,

519
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: but doing it at USC it so destroys the concept

520
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: of patients for any new hire in the future, because

521
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: you get mel Tucker thrown in your face not this year,

522
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 3: but last year's version.

523
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: You get the Sam Pittman effect.

524
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 3: At Arkansas, they're gonna say, look at those guys no

525
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: time at all, Why in the world should we give

526
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: you two or three years? Like that's what they've been

527
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: asking Mike Norvell at Florida State. Why should we give

528
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 3: you that time? He didn't need it. He didn't need it.

529
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: Not understanding that there may be some pretty unique situations.

530
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: Those guys may be given access to resources you don't have.

531
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Speaker 3: Those guys, I can tell you for sure, in some

532
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 3: cases are allowed to make hires that.

533
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: Some other guys want to make it aren't allowed to make.

534
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: So it's it's so much a case by case basis,

535
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: but no one really wants to hear that.

536
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: Well, I'll ask you another question, though, is there the

537
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 4: potential we know some of these are a little bit

538
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 4: of fools goal? Is there a potential that they don't

539
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 4: cash in quick enough on winning at Kansas, winning at TCU,

540
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 4: and it comes back around like we saw at Syracuse,

541
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: where you know you're hot, you won ten games at

542
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 4: a school nobody especially win ten games at did you

543
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: you didn't parlay that and now you kind of fell

544
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 4: back to Earth. So is that a possibility. I don't

545
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 4: want to go negative on your show.

546
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 3: No, I know, I know I brought you in here specifically.

547
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: I think that it's possible. And I also think you

548
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: could ask that from the coaching standpoint. You know a

549
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: lot of people right now are asking that about Matt

550
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 3: Campbell at Iowa State. Sure, a lot of people know

551
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: that he's had offers to get out of there, if

552
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 3: you want to phrase it that way, he may be

553
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: perfectly content there. And now you look at Iowa State

554
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: and they've already lost multiple games this year. They massively

555
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: underachieved in my opinion, last year, which felt like the

556
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: year that was in front of them to click and

557
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you don't hear Matt Campbe's name

558
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 3: as much anymore, right, And so you can ask it

559
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: about a program.

560
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: You could ask it about coaching. I think you could

561
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: turn the volume down to Lawrence Kansas.

562
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: I think you could ask it about Lance Leipold right now,

563
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: because you've got it's such a perfect storm. If you're

564
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: his representation, and I don't even know who represents him,

565
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: it's such a perfect storm. You can go to the

566
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: Southeastern Conference if you want, you can go to Wisconsin

567
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: if you want.

568
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: You could stay in Kansas if you want. They're gonna

569
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: be jobs open everywhere.

570
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 4: Instead of running to USC, Yes, instead of running USC.

571
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: All right, You've got a game that's off the radar,

572
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 3: and it's it's not really off the radar, but we

573
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: didn't do a breakdown on it the other night Florida

574
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: State at NC State, and it's got a lot of

575
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: people's interest peaked because the number on this is three

576
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: and a half and really that's including home field being

577
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 3: baked in. So we're looking at this game happening in Raleigh,

578
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 3: and we've got NC State hosting FSU and odds makers

579
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: just openly telling you if they played this game in Atlanta,

580
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: we would just say pick your winner, moneyline special. And

581
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: I'm really interested in number one, how this game plays out.

582
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: But this, to me, I mean, I know it's tough

583
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: love giving these college kid this line to me is

584
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: such a direct indictment on Devin Leary and how we

585
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: have not seen that game, much less those games from

586
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 3: him that someone like me hoped he would string together

587
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: this year is a like he feels like a tenth

588
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 3: year senior.

589
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: Well and part of him, part of NC State's sort

590
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 4: of preseason top ten hype was his upward trajectory, right,

591
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: But then what we've seen this year, and we flagged

592
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: this last week. We both picked Clemson to win that

593
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: game because we were looking into the numbers and notice

594
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: of all the opponents, and it's still it's the same

595
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 4: after the Clemson game. If you take all of his

596
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: opponents this year, all NC State's opponents, they allowed nine

597
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: and a half yards about per passing attempt. If that

598
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: was a team, they'd be one hundred and twenty six

599
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: in the nation. Leary's thrown for I think six point

600
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: six yards per so about twenty thirty percent lower than

601
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 4: the teams that they're facing. So he's doing worse than

602
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: Furman or Campbell quarterbacks like FCSG fives. And on the

603
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: flip side, got quarterback Florida State who's doing about twenty

604
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 4: thirty percent better than what they want they give up.

605
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 4: So I think that there's two things here for me. One,

606
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: I think it's an indictment on this offense, kind of

607
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: like a A and M where we said week six, you

608
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 4: are who you are a little bit. This is hard

609
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 4: to dig out of that hole if you're that bad,

610
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: But I think it also says something where we're looking

611
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: at a team going on the road that's unranked, although

612
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: I'll say if Florida State's if LSU can be ranked,

613
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 4: Florida State probably should be too. A team going on

614
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: the road to unranked, they're gonna play number fourteen in

615
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: the country, only three and a half point spread. What

616
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 4: did you call last season? What was your name for

617
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: last season?

618
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: Well, twenty twenty one was and will forever be known

619
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: as the Renaissance season.

620
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 4: What's your name for twenty twenty two?

621
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: It is the Every Given Saturday Tour. There's a shirt.

622
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: There's a shirt we got Can we get this shirt?

623
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: I mean, look at how beautiful that is? The Every

624
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: Given Saturday Tour represented a Steen white T shirt for

625
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: him right here at Rounders in Tuscaloosa.

626
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: Proceeds sir.

627
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 4: So that's that's the name for this year. But it's

628
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: not just a slogan. We want to put a slogan

629
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: on everything as fans and kind of maybe blow up

630
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: some upsets here or there. But Vegas is telling us

631
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: it's every Given Saturday. Vegas is telling us that the

632
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: gap between fourteen and unranked on a neutral field is zero. Yeah,

633
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: maybe maybe even Florida State's favorite. Same thing with the

634
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: Tennessee going to bat rouge this weekend.

635
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: Well it's everywhere though, you know, every every Tuesday.

636
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm foolish enough to put out power ratings.

637
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: And not polls.

638
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks true. We don't rank anything, never rank

639
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: any bad and they slander you.

640
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: And the reason they say, listen, it's important to have

641
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: support like that because the jpeople has fallen on tough

642
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: times recently. And the reason they slandered you it's because, look,

643
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: there is no skill in this right now. Behind the

644
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: top three, it's pretty easy to say Bama, Georgia, Ohio

645
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: State in some form of fashion of top three dude,

646
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 3: behind that. I just got news for you, Not to

647
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: defend the J people, but I will if odds makers

648
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: at the major sports books were to put out their

649
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 3: honest to god power ratings, they would look no different.

650
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: Bill Cobbley puts out the S and P plus you

651
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: got to know where to go to find it, and

652
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: I think you should be a lot more promoted than

653
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: he is.

654
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: But it's the same. It's just like spaghetti, just like

655
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: word salad.

656
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: It might as well be there's such a minute gap

657
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: in power rating, neutral field separation about four through honestly thirty,

658
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: Ye that you could just throw them out there like dominoes.

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Speaker 4: So I got a question for you, because we deal

660
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Speaker 4: with this every Sunday night when we make our Saturday

661
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Speaker 4: night when we make a top ten, and people were like, ah,

662
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Speaker 4: you don't know what you're talking about. That top ten

663
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Speaker 4: is terrible. I'm like, you're right, I don't it's here

664
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Speaker 4: because it's so hard. But in a year like this

665
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Speaker 4: or it is every given Saturday, and there is tons

666
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Speaker 4: of parody, which, by the way, they said we needed

667
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Speaker 4: to expand the playoffs to get it, we already got it.

668
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Speaker 4: My question to you is how do you deal with

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Speaker 4: the two sides that you have to be. You have

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Speaker 4: to be a fan that loves it, that's awesome, and

671
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Speaker 4: then somebody that goes on record as picking not only

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Speaker 4: games but against the spread. How do you deal with that?

673
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Speaker 4: Is it more the fan that takes over because it

674
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Speaker 4: is so much fun and this is so much fun

675
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Speaker 4: partly because there's parody.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got to understand, they're casuals everywhere in life.

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Speaker 9: Right, it sucks, but it's true. But look, the question

678
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Speaker 9: is how do we deal with casuals? And that's the answer.

679
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Speaker 9: That's how we deal with casuals. So once you have

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Speaker 9: a name.

681
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Speaker 2: For it and you've identified it, did you learn quickly.

682
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Speaker 3: How to sort of dispose of not the person, because

683
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Speaker 3: there are plenty of good people who have casual takes.

684
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Speaker 2: You got to dispose of the casual takes in your.

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Speaker 4: Life, the sin on the center.

686
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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, okay, And so I also think the

687
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Speaker 3: challenge back is like, if you tell me Tennessee or

688
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Speaker 3: Michigan or whatnot you taught it's not a top seven

689
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Speaker 3: or eight team.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, Well, we all got opinions.

691
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Speaker 3: Who is you gotta replace them with someone you can't

692
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Speaker 3: have a top three and then just question marks all

693
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Speaker 3: the way down to fourteen and then just pick up

694
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Speaker 3: where you left off.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you why it's hard this year you

696
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Speaker 4: mentioned it, you said top three and then maybe we

697
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Speaker 4: can think about Clemson in Michigan. But this year we're

698
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Speaker 4: missing that second tier. Yes, I hate to talk about tears.

699
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: I know that that triggers people. We're missing that sort

700
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Speaker 4: of let's say tronch of teams that will go ten

701
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Speaker 4: and two, will murder the teams that they're supposed to

702
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Speaker 4: be handle their business. They're just not quite good enough

703
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Speaker 4: to beat Ohio State, to beat Alabama. We're missing that

704
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Speaker 4: because a lot pivots off of that in terms of modeling,

705
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Speaker 4: in terms of predictions, because then you get this relative

706
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Speaker 4: data point thing, and also conference isolations killing us. I

707
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Speaker 4: think there's four Big ten teams that don't play Power

708
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Speaker 4: five out of the conference this year.

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Speaker 5: It's tough.

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Speaker 4: It's tough about that for us.

711
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Speaker 3: Here's the other The streets have never been rougher. Here's

712
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Speaker 3: the other question. And we'll move on from this. If

713
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Speaker 3: we were to talk in the language of tears, since

714
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Speaker 3: you brought us down that road, let me let me

715
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Speaker 3: just if we think we got a bunch of Tier

716
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Speaker 3: three yep, by historical perspective, okay, by historical relativity.

717
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Speaker 2: What we got to still.

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Speaker 3: Find out is are Bama, Ohio State, and Georgia really

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Speaker 3: tier ones and we don't have anyone that tier three

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Speaker 3: parable or are some of the perceived tier ones right

721
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Speaker 3: now what we would historically rate tier.

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Speaker 2: Two and we just hadn't found out yet.

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't hear any Ohio saying thank you, it's

724
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Speaker 4: it's all relative though, right, So if there is no

725
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Speaker 4: tier two and they're the tier two, then they're the

726
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Speaker 4: tier one. It's the you know, nerd. Josh like, I've

727
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Speaker 4: a shout out, he tweeted the other day He's like,

728
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Speaker 4: you know, everybody sucks jokingly, but like that's fun, right

729
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: If if everybody sucks, that also means everybody's good. Sure,

730
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Speaker 4: so I think that that's something that we need to

731
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Speaker 4: remember when we talk about that. But to your point,

732
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Speaker 4: Georgia Sanford, we gave them a pass because of the

733
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Speaker 4: coaching history, Georgia Kent State. We're like, okay, they got

734
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Speaker 4: to get quarterback. We can see, you know, being a

735
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Speaker 4: little sleepy. Georgia was sleepy last week too. And then

736
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Speaker 4: what do we I don't I love Ohio State people,

737
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Speaker 4: they follow us on Twitter, they come, they show up

738
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Speaker 4: our videos. Well, what are we gonna know about Ohio

739
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Speaker 4: State at the end of the year because they haven't

740
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Speaker 4: played anybody, who's played anybody, And that's my concern.

741
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I it's exciting because it feels like we're like

742
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Speaker 3: ten weeks into the season and we're not.

743
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Speaker 2: No, we're not going in a week six right now.

744
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Speaker 3: So there are so many of those teams that are

745
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Speaker 3: maybe in that quote unquote tier three area, Yeah, that

746
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Speaker 3: are gonna not following by the wayside in some cases,

747
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Speaker 3: and some get better and play each other.

748
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Speaker 2: Right.

749
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Speaker 3: I'm just really interested, man, because it seems like everyone

750
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Speaker 3: has that top level so crystallized, and I just I

751
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Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna that easy.

752
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Speaker 4: Well, and I do wonder how much of Alabama Week

753
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 4: two against Texas was their actual shortcomings or maybe just

754
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: Texas is better than people think they are, and that

755
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Speaker 4: you know, talking about yours versus card this weekend, Like

756
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Speaker 4: I don't know, there's a huge drop off. And that's

757
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Speaker 4: why I think Vegas hasn't moved that number too much

758
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 4: because you've got teams like Texas who, even with their

759
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: backup quarterback, winning ball games. It's really hard right now

760
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Speaker 4: to know if they're good or not. But like you said,

761
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Speaker 4: week six, we got a few more weeks to figure

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Speaker 4: it out.

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Speaker 3: It's a really interesting conversation that you had right now.

764
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Speaker 3: Here's what I want to do, So Jesse, if you're

765
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Speaker 3: listening to me, everyone say hey to Jesse.

766
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Speaker 2: Please.

767
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Speaker 3: You see a lot of people don't believe in Jesse,

768
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: much like Santa Claus. But the people here in Tuscaloosa

769
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Speaker 3: do believe in Jesse, and he is in living, breathing.

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Speaker 2: Color down at Fort Lauderdale. No, we're not bringing him

771
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Speaker 2: on the screen, but.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling him, Jesse, if you can hear me, please

773
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Speaker 3: show me the Rama Noodle Express right quick. Because this

774
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: is really, this is really where we have to start

775
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: to make our hate because we've got to have undefeated.

776
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Speaker 3: Are close to an unefeated week because I'm really tired

777
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Speaker 3: of being below five hundred.

778
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Speaker 2: We're on Louisville minus four and a half.

779
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Speaker 3: This week, we're on Buffalo plus two, and we're on

780
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Speaker 3: Arkansas State plus eleven and a half. Okay, let's add

781
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Speaker 3: two more teams here amongst the fifteen bets that have been.

782
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Speaker 2: Thrown at me.

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Speaker 3: The other two games were on. Georgia Tech actually beat

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Speaker 3: Pitt last week. Judging by the ratings, you did not

785
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Speaker 3: know that Georgia Tech beat Pitt last week. We're taking

786
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Speaker 3: Georgia Tech plus three and a half. They are at

787
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Speaker 3: home against Duke that is now the Brent Key Era

788
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Speaker 3: in Atlanta and also Miami wait for it, of Ohio

789
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Speaker 3: plus six.

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Speaker 2: They're playing Kent State.

791
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Speaker 3: We're on Louiville minus four and a half Buffalo plus two,

792
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Speaker 3: Arkansas State plus eleven and a half, Georgia Tech plus

793
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: three and a half in Miami of Ohio plus six. Hey, look,

794
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: Bama minus twenty four Saturday night, how do we feel

795
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Speaker 3: about it?

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Speaker 2: You're telling me, you're telling me, no matter who starts

797
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: at quarterback, Bama minus twenty four.

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Speaker 4: So you got money line Galavera taking a m probably.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well here's what's fun.

800
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter quarterback. It doesn't matter if you have

801
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 3: a Heisman Trophy winner or not looked. He may be right, though,

802
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: I mean real talk. He may be right, because I

803
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: want to go back just a second to that stat

804
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Speaker 3: about yards per carry allowed. You know the game plan.

805
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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting to phrase it like this. I

806
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 3: think I heard you say this. When we saw Jalen

807
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: Milroe come in against Arkansas, we didn't necessarily see the

808
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe offense being run. We saw Jalen Milroe being

809
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: put in on a moment's notice, and they did what

810
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Speaker 3: they could with him that day, for better.

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Speaker 2: Or for worse.

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Speaker 3: This Saturday, we assume starting, and if he does, they've

813
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Speaker 3: noted it all week. We get the Jalen Milroe experience,

814
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Speaker 3: and I don't necessarily know that it's as fortified a

815
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Speaker 3: defensive front for Texas A and M as people want

816
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Speaker 3: to believe.

817
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Speaker 2: So look, it could be a situation.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, It wouldn't surprise me if we looked

819
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: at that box score Saturday night and Bama's thrown it

820
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Speaker 3: sixteen times and they've run it forty seven times and

821
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Speaker 3: they've skilled uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: So in a lot of these games where a quarterback

823
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Speaker 4: gets hurt, the backup quarterback has a package right seven

824
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Speaker 4: to ten plays that they know really well that they

825
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: drill into them. They don't get all the reps, but

826
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 4: they know these plays, and so sometimes they come out

827
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Speaker 4: looking great because they got the defensive roller skates they

828
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Speaker 4: prepared all week. I don't know if anybody remembers Tua

829
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Speaker 4: came in for a game and Georgia was a little yes,

830
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: and then Jalen Hurts came in for a game and

831
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: kind of got them sideway. So the problem is we

832
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Speaker 4: for A and M, they didn't see that game last week.

833
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 4: They saw Jalen Milroe running the Brice Young offense. But

834
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: we did get a glimpse first touchdown, first touchdown, we

835
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: saw a zone read, a pure zone read where Milroe

836
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: pulled it from the mesh point read the defensive end

837
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Speaker 4: ran for a touchdown. It was a called run play,

838
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: not an RPO where the linebackers crashed down. It throws

839
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Speaker 4: off the top. So we might see some of that Saturday.

840
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: But Josh, did you ever play Madden?

841
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

842
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 4: Sure, okay, so last week was kind of like Madden

843
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 4: when you get mad and they're going for it on

844
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: fourth and one and when you're really just not thinking right,

845
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: put in punk block right. Sure, that's what Arkansas ran

846
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 4: against Alabama, And what happens in Madden when you don't

847
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: stop him on fourth and one on that play gets

848
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: ugly end zone. Yeah, I don't think we're going to

849
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: see that against A and M. I think it's gonna

850
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: be more of a slow bleed that four yards of

851
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: carry can't get him off the field, and then I

852
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: think A M is gonna give him some short fields too.

853
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: Uh oh yeah, dead body.

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Speaker 3: Look, the over A rods Phills was three and a

855
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 3: half and we're way under right now, so I appreciate it. Okay,

856
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Speaker 3: I'm appreciative of that. It's gonna be a really fun weekend. Look,

857
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Speaker 3: we've gotten multiple games to go to. These folks are

858
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Speaker 3: going to be in Bright Dinny Stadium Saturday night. We're

859
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Speaker 3: gonna be there too. But before we got there, it

860
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: was really important that we got out on the road

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Speaker 3: this week. Our partners with Burbo made that possible, Our

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Speaker 3: partners at Academy make that possible, but most importantly, the

863
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Speaker 3: University of Alabama made it possible. And we appreciate you

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Speaker 3: guys being here. Daniel Dillar, appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 2: My friend, can we get a roll tie.

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Speaker 3: Channel on the way out. Please appreciate you guys watching.

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Speaker 3: Take care of God Glass. We'll see you back your

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