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Speaker 1: of the new season, and guess what. It's officially NBA

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Speaker 1: Defense Week, and we're celebrating some of the all time

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Speaker 1: greatest defenders and some news and notes from around the

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Speaker 1: league with former assistant coach with the Nets, former video

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Speaker 1: coordinator for the Grizzlies, and current co host of the

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Speaker 1: highly entertaining and informative Dunker Spot podcast Steve Jones Jr.

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Speaker 1: Is in the building. I'm Miles Break and I'm Jack

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Speaker 1: O'Brien and this is there. It is Yeah, you did.

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Speaker 1: You were racing me that time, little stinker. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: bring in our guests. Steve Jones Jr. May know him

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Speaker 1: as an analyst on Basketball News Again, former assistant coach

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. How are you, ma? I'm doing

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Speaker 1: good man, how y'all doing? Happy to be here? Fantastic

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Speaker 1: And listen to that voice maybe radio and podcast, Holy

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Speaker 1: cal you got a voice changer on there. A lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of dumins and water.

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Speaker 1: How tall you six to on a good day? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: bad day? On a bad day, five three eleven on

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Speaker 1: a bad day. So all right, I have this theory

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Speaker 1: that I want to ask you about, straight up, right

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Speaker 1: out the gate. That video coordinator is like sneaky good

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Speaker 1: prep for being just like all around basketball galaxy brain

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Speaker 1: because you imbibe more like NBA basketball than anyone else. Um, well,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that? As a former video coordinator,

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Speaker 1: your theory is correct. Yeah, So no matter which pathway

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Speaker 1: to the front office, you have been forced to watch

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Speaker 1: the game in a different way, consistently, over and over

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Speaker 1: get the prep, you get the reps, your brain grows,

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Speaker 1: for some reason it doesn't stick. But yeah, if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're a video coordinator, you you're you got a

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Speaker 1: different brain, a different mindset. Yeah, I did. Frank Vogel

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Speaker 1: of a young coach who hasn't done anyet Taylor Jenkins.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know Frank Vogel used to be the

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Speaker 1: one year and he just like couldn't understand how I

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Speaker 1: that's all right. He's that's really your dad. That's your dad. Really, yeah, man. Actually,

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Speaker 1: like I think had I had the remember when he

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Speaker 1: it is what he was like saying that he was

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Speaker 1: any player. Actually, accept me. I I actually had the

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Speaker 1: NBA scrub every video of me trying to play basketball,

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Speaker 1: this doing? But the two of you, I would say,

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Speaker 1: you mean he found you? He found lost? I was lost.

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Speaker 1: a lot, but yeah, man, So do you like root

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Speaker 1: In general? Yeah, I like a good story. I like

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Speaker 1: to see teams grow. I like to see teams perform. Well,

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Speaker 1: I like redemption arcs. You know, so if Kauhi were

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Speaker 1: If Lebron hits another peak of job rate takes another leap,

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Speaker 1: Like it's fun to watch young players developed from one

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Speaker 1: that success in the playoffs. It's also fun to see

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Speaker 1: And so for me, just feed me all of the

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of a bummer way to

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Speaker 1: watch the game sometimes, right, Yeah, man, I like how

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Speaker 1: you're almost talking like like Doctor Manhattan and The Watchman

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Speaker 1: where it's like, I don't engage with your sport on

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Speaker 1: a level so tortured, But do you wan? I know,

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Speaker 1: you know the Watchman. Better know the Watchman Man, Doctor Manhattan,

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Speaker 1: the big blue naked man who is so wise. But like,

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Speaker 1: do you find yourself like ever regressing to having that

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Speaker 1: seen the Ring or just call him wingstop, Lemon pepper,

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Speaker 1: because it's there. It is all right, Thank you. And

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Speaker 1: this has been branding with I wasn't a missing one

428
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Speaker 1: thing because y'all kind of mentioned modern players. Do you

429
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Speaker 1: guys have an appreciation for what Jose Alvarado did his

430
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Speaker 1: little sneaky move last year, So ighting in the back court? Yeah,

431
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Speaker 1: just just they'll take a little nap in the in

432
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Speaker 1: the backcourt, run right to the corner, let you embed it,

433
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Speaker 1: then peek right behind you and poked the ball the way.

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Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite things ever last year.

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Speaker 1: It's like one step above getting down on the court

436
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Speaker 1: and bargaining like a dog. Did distract people so that

437
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Speaker 1: you're larry your teammate. That's an open look, but it's

438
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Speaker 1: also like a very important step above that. Like it,

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Speaker 1: it's much more respectable. I I appreciate it. The fact

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Speaker 1: that you did against Chris Paul, somebody who is always

441
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Speaker 1: you know, shaving an edge like I I appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why not let's do another quick break and then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna come back and it's time for rapid fire question

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Speaker 1: I hope you are in an athletic stance. I hope

445
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Speaker 1: you've like done a little bit of a warm up

446
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Speaker 1: because you're going to need to be at one when

447
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Speaker 1: we start this scenario. And we're back and it's time

448
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Speaker 1: to kick it, kick it up full to Uh. Sorry,

449
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Speaker 1: I'm not having a stroke. I know some people at

450
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Speaker 1: home we're worried. It was just my words were distracted

451
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Speaker 1: or my words were leaving me because my children are

452
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Speaker 1: It sounds like having a fist fight in the other

453
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Speaker 1: room and there four on six, so that's never good. Um,

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Speaker 1: but let's let's do it. Let's do rapid fire. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's time for the rapid fire round of questioning. Now, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I know you've listened to every single episode of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: so I don't have to tell you about the rapid

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Speaker 1: fire round of questioning. But let's presume that maybe you haven't,

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Speaker 1: or maybe this listener is listening for the first time.

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Speaker 1: This is the round of questioning where we are just

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Speaker 1: going to hit you with the question and you have

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Speaker 1: to reflexively respond. Don't think about it, just react, Do

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Speaker 1: not waste our time, because this is the rapid This

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Speaker 1: is the round of questions. Believe it at that notion?

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Speaker 1: Is that round of questioning? Guess that one that you've

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Speaker 1: been hearing about. The questions are happening. Parents, hid your children?

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Speaker 1: Put him to bed because we're starting the clock. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to go first? Or should I go first? Um? Support? Okay?

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Speaker 1: All right, all right? Shoot you saw mine before? Paper scissors? Shoot, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're doing this again. Rock papers, shot, rock papers, shoot,

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Speaker 1: rock papers, scissors Shoot again. That was fast to see.

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Speaker 1: We think about y'all, the listener. That wasn't a waste

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Speaker 1: of time. Because we like to do things equitably on

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Speaker 1: this shows, we should probably say what we're doing, uh

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Speaker 1: like what like narrate the rock paper scissors. So the

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Speaker 1: first one, the first one we did. First of all,

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Speaker 1: we built the rock rock. Then we both did scissors, scissors, paper,

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Speaker 1: We both didn't paper again a lot of paper, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then paper on my paper before scissors. Your visitor, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you lost to a rock I have through rocking. You

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Speaker 1: throw scissors. That's how Yeah, that's what we got to

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Speaker 1: make sure see and that's why we like to recap

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Speaker 1: what happened in that for the list, you know how

484
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Speaker 1: like they're the chess masters who can just look at

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Speaker 1: a chessboard and immediately just have photographic recalled every where,

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Speaker 1: every piece of That's how Miles is with rock paper.

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Speaker 1: It's actually pretty impressive. I don't know why I keep

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Speaker 1: doing this. Let you know, I should just be like

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Speaker 1: you take the first one, man, whatever it's so important

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Speaker 1: to you. Just get real passive aggressive. Remember the first

491
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Speaker 1: time you you got good at rock papers? Oh well, see,

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Speaker 1: now I'm getting all distracted. Start to clock again for

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Speaker 1: the rapid fire round of questions, Steve Jones Jr. Do

494
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Speaker 1: not waste our time starting off with this one. Now,

495
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Speaker 1: let us know what is a more likely scenario for

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Speaker 1: the following teams planes situation comfortably in the playoffs or

497
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: looking for lottery love and all the wrong places. Starting

498
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Speaker 1: with the Lakers play m hmm. Is that depending on

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Speaker 1: who you think comes in an off season or you're

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Speaker 1: just thinking no matter what, you're still thinking the off

501
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Speaker 1: season trade it's gonna save you. I think it's more

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Speaker 1: of a salute to the West. Salute the West. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Mr West, Uh, Mr West, that's kind of hard to hear. Okay,

504
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: let's move on. The Timberwolves playing Okay, wow, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: Pelicans comfortably in yes, Okay, I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to watch them, very excited to watch them,

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Speaker 1: very excited to watch them the nets comfortably in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is controversial. Take. I'm hearing a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who aren't believers, and I'm excited for them to the

510
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Speaker 1: Pelicans and the nets are my like the teams that

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling forward to see them like put it together.

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Speaker 1: And now that Utah is on the nets too, I'm

513
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Speaker 1: a pull for them too, because shout out my Japanese brethren. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what about the Blazers? Finally, I know the Vegas people

515
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: think that they seem to be they might be doing

516
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: a big leap. But how about you where the most

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Speaker 1: likely right? Lottery? Lottery? WHOA, I wouldn't be surprised by playing,

518
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Speaker 1: but you said most likely, so I'm gonna take it literally. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but Dame's gotta like be playing most of

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Speaker 1: the games this year. I feel like they're they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be in a lottery of Dames playing the majority

522
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Speaker 1: of the games, right, They're gonna be a lot better.

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Speaker 1: But again, the West is disgusting. So yeah, really good

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Speaker 1: this year. Um, keep it going, keep it going. Here

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Speaker 1: we go. And this is just me talking conversationally. I

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Speaker 1: am in no way reading this. I use these words

527
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Speaker 1: all the time, such as per Vegas Insider dot com

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Speaker 1: Vegas currently has Luca as the favorite to win the

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Speaker 1: m v P next season, followed by I'm beating your

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Speaker 1: honest give us your dark horse candidate. Folks aren't currently

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Speaker 1: discussing uh, and sentence of me speaking just off the

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Speaker 1: dome there it is dark horse? Yes, okay, oh man,

533
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Speaker 1: this is just getting me excited for the season, which

534
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Speaker 1: even back all the time. Anybody do you any other

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Speaker 1: candidates are do you? Do you agree with those top

536
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Speaker 1: three candidates? I don't know. I don't know where the

537
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Speaker 1: winner of the last two is. Like Yoka just seems

538
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Speaker 1: like he's missing. But for Yok's not be up, there's weird,

539
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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be tough for him to win another one.

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Speaker 1: MB probably should be mentioned. Um, it probably feels like

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Speaker 1: Lucas if Dallas win is enough game got it? Got it? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's move on. I don't know the giantess that I'm

543
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Speaker 1: not familiar with that name, but I bet he's good too,

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Speaker 1: um little and you go. I will with chat Home Grins.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunate foot injury at the crossover a couple of weeks back,

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Speaker 1: and the news that he's expected to miss the whole season.

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Speaker 1: Is there a chance we could be living in a

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Speaker 1: world where Okay, see winds up with the top pick

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00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: and could conceivably put Victor wembon Yama next to chat

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Speaker 1: Home Grin on the same court as six eight Josh

551
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Speaker 1: Giddy one day? Is that real? Is that a fever dream?

552
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: Or is this possibility that's there? One two, three, six eight,

553
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Speaker 1: seven foot and seven five possibly, definitely, possibly, Okay, Not

554
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Speaker 1: your immediate action is there's no cold body. You're like, Nope,

555
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: I can see it. That one clip wemban Yama just

556
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: like hitting without hesitation, just so smooth from the logo

557
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: is terrifying. Yeah, I'm very excited. Yeah, now that you

558
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Speaker 1: mentioned it, I kind of want to just see it. Yeah,

559
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: just to see that that crew, Yeah, of daddy long

560
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Speaker 1: legs and starting at shooting guard seven foot at Home

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Speaker 1: Grant and at three seven five Victor. It's hypothetical, but

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Speaker 1: if they did it, you kind of have to lean

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Speaker 1: in and now just find all seven butters. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Who do you have a four and five? That being

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Speaker 1: your back court? Um? Alright, and uh final question, Miles

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Speaker 1: or Jack? Miles? God? Every time? No, last time was

567
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Speaker 1: a draw. Last time was a draw. No, I don't

568
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Speaker 1: think so. Yeah. Maybe times ago it was a draw.

569
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Speaker 1: But oh I thought the valley was being real. Oh yeah.

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00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: But then immediately was like when I was like, yeah,

571
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Speaker 1: he was like, I never mind compressing, but I did

572
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: want to be nice because you seemed like you had

573
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Speaker 1: a lot riding on it. Um. No, that's understandable, it's understandable.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your honesty. Let's next time, Jack will do this.

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Speaker 1: We'll reword it and your name comes first, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. How about hey, man, Hey, come on,

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Speaker 1: chin up, man, chin up. That's fine man, he said

578
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: in bed might be in the running for m VP.

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Speaker 1: That was great. I was thinking of a Miles Turner.

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00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, poor Jared Jack. That was that was

581
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Speaker 1: literally hit the cum barrisson. I had my head. Miles Turner,

582
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Speaker 1: Jared Jack, it's the last names. I got a better league. Yeah, man, Well,

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Speaker 1: Steve Jones Jr. Thanks so much for joining us today

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Speaker 1: on Miley Jack Got Mad Boost thees Man, who is

585
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: really fantastic having you on. Where can people find you?

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00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: A follow you, engage with your work and all that

587
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: can listen to the Dunker Spot pot on all podcasts

588
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: and find me on Twitter at Steve Jones twenty. I'm

589
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: so good at plugging myself. There is fish beautiful work.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the dunker Spot, how do we feel about

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons on the nets? Ben Simmons hopefully not just

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Speaker 1: the dunker Spot. Yes, hopefully he's not just standing at

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00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: the dunker Spot or also be a whole different conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna have a good year. I

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00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a good year. Don't to let's

596
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: do it, but remember remember he did pick me though.

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00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, thanks so much for listening. I need

598
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: you to stop with the condescending, see Jack, because you

599
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: look a look at that. You said that guy don't

600
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: mean to play for y'all. He might be all right, yeah,

601
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: a little head pet, a little sport. All right, y'all,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening. We'll see you next week

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Speaker 1: when we come back with Miles and Jack Got Mad

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Speaker 1: Boosties