WEBVTT - Diddy Trial + RHONY Exile: #TrueCrimeThursdays with Eboni K. Williams 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:05.360 Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings, 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.160 the King of Reality TV and one of the most 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:12.799 sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.919 years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.400 the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:24.240 entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit un 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:29.840 forgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:31.560 Hey, rain drops. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.080 On today's episode of Reality with the King, we have 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.640 to talk about all things reality television, but we also 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.560 got to talk about all things that are happening in 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.680 the reality of the world. In this particular case, both 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:49.600 are intersected because p Diddy was a reality star who 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.360 started making the band I want to work for Diddy, 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.600 And he did have a Sean Thomos show that was 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.040 going to come out this year, but it got canceled 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.520 due to everything going on. So welcome to True Crime 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.800 Thursdays Reality with the King Edition. And I cannot do 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.360 this alone, so I am here with my good friend 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:14.000 Legal Ego Honey. She is also a judge. She is 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:14.800 the host of. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.640 The award winning podcast Holding Court. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.080 So y'all know how I'm talking about the beautiful, the talented, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:25.920 the amazing woman and mother that she is. Give it 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:26.960 up for Ebony K. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:33.039 Williams rain Drops, Hello darlings, and the King. I salute you, honey. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.640 Let's get into all of it. I like that framing though, too. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.760 I like true crime. What are we doing true crime 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:40.800 Thursdays with the King? 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.960 Yeah? True crime Thursdays. Because the thing is this, I'm into. 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.440 All things true crime. I'm launching a new series that 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.480 is coming out in June, so stay tuned for that 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.280 is in a true crime space. But with this ditty 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.800 stuff happening, it hit me Ebany that it is the 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:05.480 intersection of true crime reality star because Puff was on. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:06.880 Making the band. 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.080 I want to work for Diddy the four on Fox 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:14.760 that I worked on alongside him, DJ Calla and Meghan Trainer. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.040 So I do want to get into a lot that's 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.360 been happening because what's going on in this case has 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.600 been the talk of the town for the past like 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.799 year year and a half. So to update everybody who 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.120 has been living under roped. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.440 As you all know, Mediamogo, SEANP. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:37.520 Ded Combs is in jail for allegedly because he hasn't 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:41.880 been found guilty for alleged crimes of sex trafficking. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.079 Okay, that's what he's in jail for. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:46.239 Now. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.079 What has been happening for the past three days? 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:54.359 The trial has started and as of today's taping, we 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.200 are going to discuss the first couple of days of 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.560 the trial, and mie K Williams is going to update 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.639 us on exactly what's been happening. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.960 So they want to trial his former girlfriend. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:13.760 Cassie Ventura, who is eight months pregnant, had to suffer 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.680 through being a witness in this case by talking about 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:23.200 some of the things she experienced, and I want Ebony. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.440 To update us on all things going on. So Ebonie, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.360 what is going on in this case and why is 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.320 Cassie a part of me? Because we saw. 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:35.960 The video where he physically harmed her at the lobby 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.760 of a hotel in the hallway. I'm sorry, but this 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.520 case is not about domestic violence. This case is about 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.360 sex trafficking. So can you educate us on what's been 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.920 going on and how Cassie is involved in this from 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:48.720 that arena? 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:53.600 Yeah, it's so broad, Carlos. The magnitude of what we're 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.600 talking about by virtue of first of all, the magnitude 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.640 of Sean Diddy Combs. Right, we are his contemporary. We 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.440 were raised on the cultural impact of this man and 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.600 this entity, you know, because that is exactly what he is. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.480 And put a pin in entity and enterprise because that's 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:11.520 actually part of this case. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:12.120 Okay. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.480 So when we think all things music, but also fashion, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:21.200 also liquor and spirits, also television, also h all the 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:25.640 things from every genre of the industry, there's nowhere you 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.440 can really go and Sean Combe's or bad boy or 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.680 sorock or some you know, Comb's enterprises doesn't touch it. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.200 So let me start with that framing, just so folks 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:41.920 can really appreciate the magnitude of the defendant. It's hard 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.640 to equate it to anything, but think of the magnitude 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.560 of an O. J. Simpson where it was the NFL, 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.880 but it was hurts, it was uh naked just uh 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.080 was it naked whatever those movies were that he was on. 0:04:54.160 --> 0:05:00.680 You know, yes, thank you think that for our generation, Okay, 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.599 And many people Carlos are going ahead and claiming this 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.640 case as the case of our century. You know, if 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.599 oj was the case of the twentieth century, this is 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.640 certainly the case thus far of the twenty first century, 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.800 and my legal peers are framing it that way. So 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.040 that sets the stage. Now let's go to the charges. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.960 You correctly cited that one of the main because it's 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.920 really five major charges that are in this federal indictment, 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.600 the three original the sex trafficking is one of them, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:37.240 but they are joined with two very important co charges 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:42.600 transporting for the sake of prostitution and the biggie as 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.719 we're kind of calling it in legal communities, the conspiracy 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:47.640 and racketeering. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:48.320 Okay. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.360 Then there were two what we call superseding indictments, Carlos. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.040 So these were indictments that came after the first charges 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.719 dropped and the homes were invaded in Miami and Los 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.160 Angeles and the raids and all of that. That was 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:05.080 when we got those first three charges sex trafficking, racketeering, 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:09.240 and conspiracy, and then transporting with prostitution. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:09.880 Okay. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.560 Then we got two additional which means that the government 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.560 in this case, when I say the government, I want 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.760 to be clemed i ab out the United States of America, 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.040 the Federal Government v. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.960 Shan Colmes. That's the title of this case. Okay. Again, 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:25.240 scope and magnitude. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:30.920 They were asking after the first indictment Carlos, then prosecutor 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.480 black man by the name of Damian Williams. He has 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.440 sent stepped down from this case, but he was the 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.640 original prosecutor on the case. He was asking for more 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.520 witnesses and more victims, more alleged victims to what come forward. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.479 He was saying, we're still working on this case. Baby, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.960 it's not cooked, as the kids would say. It is 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:52.320 still an active investigation. But based on the facts, evidence 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.960 and proposed witnesses we have thus far, we've put forth 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.480 the first set of indictment. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.760 Then, very calm in the lo Carlos. This is not uncommon. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:02.480 I want to be clear. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.880 We have superseding indictments, indictments that come after the initial 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.160 framing of the charges because we've got what, more witnesses, 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.160 more facts, more pieces of evidence to add on to 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.600 the first set of charges. So there's an additional sex 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:22.320 trafficking charge and an additional transportation for the sake of 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.800 prostitution charge, So five total charges we're talking about here. Now, 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.600 let me get to your question, because it is the 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.840 question of the case thus far. When we talk about 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.480 the video that many of us first saw when CNN 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.520 broke this news last year, and we all bore witness 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:47.000 to the horrific traumatic, extraordinarily violent, just unconscionable. I mean, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:52.600 we saw a madman on camera right kicking, beating, dragging 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.560 a woman that didn't even have on shoes or socks, 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.440 and we were all horrified to see it. But you're 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.720 absolutely right. There were no and still are no criminal 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.920 charges attached to that tape. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:06.320 Zero none, not. 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.920 That would have been domestic violence or some type of 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:15.680 assault in the California jurisdiction, statute of limitations ran on it, 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:16.920 because I just wanted to lay this out for the 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:17.840 rain drops, Carlos. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.800 Why not criminal charges on that? 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.760 It's because the statute of limitations, the statute of limitations 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.560 had already run on that tape. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.680 That tape was I'll get you the year in a second, 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:31.800 but it was. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.800 It was the one year window, and which would have 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.760 been the state level that would have allowed it, and 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.559 the three year federal window. Both of them were expired. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.720 So there are no criminal charges as it relates to that. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:50.800 Now you're asking great question, why are we even talking 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.920 about this tape? Why was it the first piece of 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.719 evidence that the prosecutors put into evidence on this. 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.680 Federal trial that seemingly has nothing to do with it. 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:03.520 Well, I want the rain Drops to think about at 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.240 least two things being true at the same time. So 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.000 what we see on that video is absolutely domestic violence 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.920 and it is absolutely not a charge in this case. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.480 So anybody did y'all see saying that they are right? 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:22.360 And also this part it's very important, Carlos, the prosecutors 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.600 in the federal indictment cite aspects that we do see 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.280 on this video physical assault. I want to read it 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.480 verbatim because I don't want this to get into any 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.160 what Ebony thought of what Ebony said on this one, 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:36.400 because the stakes are too high. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:37.720 I'm sure you can appreciate that. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:38.800 Absolutely. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.200 This is clause four. If you pull up any this 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:43.080 is public record. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:43.680 Rain Drops. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.079 Pull up the original indictment of the United States of 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.080 America v. Shan Colmes. You will see in the very 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:53.000 first caption they lay out the racketeering and conspiracy part 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:58.439 Clause go paragraph for number four physical abuse by Sean Colmes. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.240 This is the government talking physical abuse by Sean Combs's 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.880 aka Puff Daddy akap DD aka Black. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:06.760 The defendant. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.440 Was recurrent and widely known on numerous occasions from at 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.160 least two thousand and nine to continuing years, Combs assaulted 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:24.200 women by doing, amongst other things, striking, punching, dragging, throwing 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:29.959 objects at and kicking them. These assaults were at times 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.959 witnessed this is Keith. They were witnessed by other folks. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.680 They included an instance in the Los Angeles hotel. 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:38.520 This is the specific video. 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.320 We're talking about here in or about that's the year 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:46.520 March of twenty sixteen and was later reported where Comb's kicked, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.120 dragged and threw a vase at a woman. We now 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.319 know that woman to be Cassie Ventura as she was 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:56.240 attempting to leave when a member of the hotel security intervened. 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:57.600 By the way rain drops. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.400 That was the very first witness that the pro secution 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.240 put on the witness stay in day one. The first 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.800 witness we heard was from was that security guard, that 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.520 security officer. Really he was a security guard. And that's important, Flores, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:11.360 go ahead, Carlos. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.640 And from my understanding, the security guard is now a 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:21.440 police officer for the Los Angeles to Police Department, I believe. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.600 And what was so interesting is and I want you 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:29.120 to explain this to me. So allegedly he did. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:35.920 He contacted the then security guard to confiscate the footage 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.679 of what he did to Cassie. And is it true 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.320 that the security guard said on the stand that he 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.559 and I believe his then girlfriend or wife he showed 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.760 it to her. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:54.559 And did not give it to the police. Is that true? 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:55.720 More or less? So? 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.679 Right? So, because I had that first question too, I 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.480 was like, well, why did you record this on your 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:00.959 cell phone? 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.160 Sir? Right? 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.760 And the answer that he said and admits to, which 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.400 I thought was very cringe quite frankly, was that the 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.120 only reason that he recorded this was not for some 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:17.280 moral high ground to It was not to prove law enforcement. 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.199 It was so that he can show his lady. I'm 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:22.560 not sure if it was his wife or not, but 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.160 so that he could show his lady. Look, look, look 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.240 and see what happened to me at work today. Look 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.880 and see yah, see judge, But look and see what 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.640 I saw. Sean Combs this victim so that he could 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.720 be believed by his romantic partner. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.040 So this is very interesting. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.800 I want to make a point too that the read 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.560 because many people said, well, why didn't he go to 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.360 the police, Why didn't he do that? Well, y'all, remember 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.520 he's working in what a commercial capacity at that time, 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:50.440 He's working for the hotel. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.760 Now he's not law enforcement. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.240 And see this is where you know Black Comedy has 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.559 been joking about this for years, right, these toy cops, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.160 no disrespect, but secure we must be. This is very important. 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.800 Security guards are not law enforcement. They're not they have 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.080 no they're not duty bound in that same way. So 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.360 his main reason for being there was to protect the 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:15.679 what the property of the hotel, and that's why what 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.320 we heard him testify to Carlos on opening day of 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.480 trial was that he would be letting mister Combs know 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:26.880 that the damage done by his abusive episode we show 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.200 up on the hotel bill. He's there to make sure 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.520 that the property is safe, not that the individuals per 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.920 se in the hotel. That's what police are for. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.480 So a question for you, by this being a case 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:47.280 that outlines sex trafficking and the other things you outline, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:55.520 Cassie's testimony is important. Tell me why her testimony is 0:13:55.559 --> 0:14:01.559 important as it relates to us hearing about these freakoffs 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.079 that allegedly and god, I'm saying alleged because he hasn't 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:09.880 found guilty so I'm not just right, Ebony. Why are 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:14.120 the freak off details important in this case as Cassie 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.760 has to unfortunately be a month pregnant living through this 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.680 by giving her testimony in front of the man who 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:21.680 he saw abuse her. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:27.000 Yes, so this is very important, the freakoff testimony, but 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:31.120 also the videotape. What I believe the prosecution is doing 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.480 the government in this case, Carlos, is they are slow walking. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.960 Let's back up. We've already been told that this case 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.200 will likely be six to eight weeks long. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.720 That's a long time. Think about all that we've already heard. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.520 How many already. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.160 Right, whether you think he's guilty or not, or it 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.520 rises to the occasion of criminal activity or not. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:51.360 There's been a lot of. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.320 And we're on day three barely okay, and we're talking 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:01.280 about six to eight weeks more of this. So that 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:05.119 tells me that the prosecution is slow walking. The factual 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.840 foundation is what they're laying, Carlos, taking their time, and 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.720 unfortunately I agree with you, but it's necessary. If you're 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.000 gonna get a conviction, you have got to have a 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.920 cooperating witness. And I think it's very important that people 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:24.120 acknowledge that Cassie not only is testifying at her vulnerable, 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.160 fragile condition of being eight months pregnant, she's doing so 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:28.160 under her own name. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.160 And she didn't have to do that. She could have. Yeah, 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.840 she made a decision. She chose to do that, Carlos King. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.800 Oh, yes, she chose to with forego a pseudonym, because 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.400 she could have been testifying as Jane Do one. As 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:46.200 we're being told future victims, alleged victims will be testifying 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.800 under pseudonyms Je Chambo two, Maybe there's a Jane Doe three. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:51.360 We don't know. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.240 But the fact that Cassie Venturer says, no, no, no, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:16:00.120 it's me. I am a famous woman in my own right. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.040 This culture and community know me as it relates to 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:08.360 this man. And I believe she must believe, Carlos, that 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:14.680 it is persuasive for her to stand in receiving the consequences. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.360 Because let's be clear, we all know victim shaming is real. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.720 We've already all seen it already on the internet. It 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.160 relates to her testimony. Sound like she wanted it, sound 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.760 like she liked it, sound like she deserved it. Why 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.560 she stay okay? So she knew she would be receiving 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:29.680 that she's not a dummy. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:30.200 Okay. 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.320 She's saying, even with that coming my way as I 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.120 carry my third child in uterow okay, and that's important. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.040 And I'm gonna be personal, Carlos, as a woman that 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:44.240 just gave birth nine months ago. What we know scientifically 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.200 now is that the neuro system of the mother of 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.600 the gestational carrier directly impacts. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.320 The fetus and the child. So you better know that that. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:00.320 I'm sure her doctor told her you withdrawing withstanding, rather 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:04.960 that level of stress and emotional turmoil while your baby 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:10.000 is still in final development, is you're paying a price, okay. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.719 And she decided to pay that price on behalf of 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.640 the fact that she felt it was so necessary that 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.479 while this case is not being televised, that's why none 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.200 of us have seen actual photos of anybody, including Sean Holmes. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.840 What have we seen, Carlos these drawings at miss right. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.480 She's still saying, people, I want them to know my name, 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.560 I want them to know that this is me, Cassandra Ventura, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.200 and I'm telling what happened to me, and I'm telling 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:36.680 my truth. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:37.359 Now. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.320 Why is the abuse and the freak offs and the 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.320 violent behavior in the freak offs. So important that we 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.919 know these details because the government, Carlos, is arguing that 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:54.159 all of that creates their case to argue conspiracy and racketeering. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.240 So two things about that, right, So that's why when 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.159 I read I took the time to read this that 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.800 you know what they're alleging In the first complaint, in 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:08.040 the first indictment, they're saying, part of what because racketeering, Okay, 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.560 that what does that mean? That means criminal enterprise at play. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.520 That's why we think of mafia when we hear Rico. 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.720 Is that the reason why the FED. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.439 Ransack his Beverly Hills a stay and took and and 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:26.400 did the investigation, allegedly took guns and all that stuff because. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.920 And all at the same time, because when you're dealing 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:34.120 with a Rico, a racketeering conspiracy, that means you've got 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:38.640 multiple players, if you will, multiple agents with different tasks 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.360 of executing the criminal activity. And that means if I'm 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.640 in Miami and I'm a part of the Combs enterprise, 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.080 alleged criminal enterprise, and I'm and I see the cops 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.840 coming or the Homeland Security in this case, coming, and 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.000 what am I gonna do? I'm gonna text Carlos King, 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:57.359 who's at the LA spot and he's also a part 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.960 of the and I'm gonna say, hey, hey, Carlos, they're 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:04.959 they just came in on us in Miami get rid 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.480 of all the evidence in La so in an effort 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:12.600 to avoid the destruction of evidence, the collaboration of people trying. 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:13.959 To get their stories straightened together. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:19.600 This is how the the you know, the the This 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.000 is how they they let they put you on notice 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.879 right that that they're they're closing in on you, and 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.000 they do it in that simultaneous way. It was not 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.159 very different than what we saw with r. Kelly or 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.800 where he had Atlanta charges, but he also had Chicago. 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:33.800 You know what I mean. 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.520 This is what the rico of it all comes into play, 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.600 multiple different pockets, most of the time in different places, 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:45.040 but all working in concert. That's a legal term, working 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:50.080 in concert, Carlos, meaning together for the execution of a 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:51.880 shared criminal agenda. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:53.200 Wow. 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.320 And part of that one more thing, because I'm sorry 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.760 to keep talking about I want to yeah. And and 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.560 they're saying that part of the criminal activity was the abuse, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:09.359 was the kicking, punching, dragging of women. That's a part 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.920 of what they were conspiring, Because what are we conspiring 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.400 to do if we're just if we're conspiring. 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.320 To make red kool aid, that's not a crime. We 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.200 can do that, Carlos. But if we're. 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:24.760 Conspiring to punch and kick people, that's criminal. Now we're 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.879 conspiring to commit a crime. So you've got to articulate 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.280 before you can get to the conspiracy, because that's what 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.480 everybody on social media that I'm hearing and reading and 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.200 listening and traveling, you and your raindrops too. Where's the rico? 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.919 Where's the conspiracy? Okay, domestic violence? I see that, got it. 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.320 He's out on trial for that. Where is the conspiracy? 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:51.680 The rico, the racketeering, and the working in concert, the 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:55.200 collusion if you will, you cannot collude by yourself. So 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.080 but I'm thinking that the prosecution has made a tactical 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.000 decision here, Carlos, and a strategic decision to say, oh, 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:06.600 we're gonna get to the various members of Sean Combs's enterprise, 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:08.439 whether they be because they worked for bad Boy at 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.840 a time, or they were his personal assistant, or maybe 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.720 they were security guards, or maybe they were drivers, or 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:18.399 maybe they were Heaven Forbid executives of some sort a 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.640 you know, the various business entities that he controlled, because 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.760 this is all about him being in control of all 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:30.960 these people and various enterprise. But before we get to that, 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.920 we we're gonna take our time in slow walk what 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:38.160 the criminal activity itself was, and it was the physical abuse. 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.960 They're gonna eventually they're go. They kind of are starting 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.439 to allude to the Arson. So we heard in today 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.600 day three testimony the reference to Kid Cuddy okay, who 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.640 at one time was a boyfriend, a short term boyfriend 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:54.360 of Cassie, I think around twenty eleven, she says, when 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.080 her and Shaan Colmes were on the rocks, Sean colmebs 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.400 catches with of this relationship between Cassie and Cutty, threatens 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.720 to harm both of them. She says, she at some 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.280 point calls Key Cutty. He pulls up on the on 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.760 the curve, picks her up, takes her to his home. 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.879 At some point she goes anyways, and and Sean Holmes says, 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.520 I'm going to blow his car up. So that's Arson. 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.520 That that that that would be a threat of arson, okay. 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:25.520 And then, as per The New York Times, Kid Cuddy 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:29.640 confirmed that some days after that threat of arson was made, 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.320 his car indeed exploded in the driveway. So this is 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.080