1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. They're predicting a shortage up to a hundred 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand truck drivers. And I said to myself, 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: if we're that short on drivers, how short are we 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: gonna be on mechanics to actually fix them? The Car 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Doctor down all the time check in. That's not necessarily 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: going to be related where I would go with this. 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: You probably have a bad multi function switch. Welcome to 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 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It'll work better than a self driving car, 64 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: and anything would work better than a self driving car. Oh, 65 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: I hear the phone ring, Go get the phone. So theoretically, um, 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about scan tools. Well, a couple 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: of reasons why I want. I just came from I 68 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: went to the new snap On the Revolution as they 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: call it. Snap On its come out with a new 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: scan tool called the Revolution, and it's not the Revolution. 71 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: They're calling it a revolution. They're calling it the Zeus 72 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Scan Tool. And I sat through the our presentation and 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: it was it's interesting. What they're doing is they've taken 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: their current level scan tool, Virus, and they have smartened 75 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: it up in a sense. So if you have a 76 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: fault code P zero one seven one on a two 77 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: thousand eight Chevy Silverado, it will gather all known pattern failures, 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: any TSPs um repair procedures, all the information. It gathers 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: it into one spot and it leads you through a 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: diagnostic routine, one piece of the puzzle at a time. 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Kind of a neat idea, and I think they're going 82 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: in the right direction, but there's a couple of holes 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: in it that I didn't understand in the class, and 84 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: I raised my concern and needles to say they were 85 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: happy when I left. One of the things the tool 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: does wrong is it analyzes the data only at idle, 87 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: so it's you know, it'll you'll group your pigs. It'll 88 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: group group your parameters, your your pieces of information that 89 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: you want to look at. It groups them, you know, 90 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: by by failure. So if it's a P zero one 91 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: seven one, it's gonna call a fuel trim and RPM 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: and cool intempt and things of that nature. And it 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: will then show you by red or blue color, red 94 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: meaning failure, blue meaning it failed at one point or 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: its suspect. And it's part of that package that it's 96 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: something that they attend and too. But it only analyzes 97 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: the data at idle. And that's the part that I 98 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: had a problem with because, as I pointed out to 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: the instructor, I said, but what about the problems like 100 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: a mass airflow sensor under performance? Um, you know, driving 101 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: down the road at fifty two miles, how does it work? Well, 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: it won't work there. You have to make your phone 103 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: a hot spot. Yeah, but because it has to be 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: connected to the internet. Yes, But if my phone has 105 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: to be connected to the internet, and I can make 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: it a hot spot. But it only analyzes the information 107 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: at idle, So what good is it? Cruising down the 108 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: road at speed? That didn't make any sense to me. 109 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: The cost to operate it didn't make a lot of 110 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: sense to me, But all of a sudden, we became 111 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: a sixteen thousand dollar scan tool for one tool. And 112 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: while we all know the cost of tooling is going 113 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: through the roof that um it's it seems like they're 114 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: going in the wrong direction. The biggest problem I I 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: think with the new snap On Zeus, and I should 116 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: point out we've we've reached out the snap On, nobody's 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: gotten back to us to want to respond to any 118 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: of this. The biggest problem I see with the snap 119 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: On Zeus is this many come man versus machine again. 120 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: They're they're attempting to, for lack of a better word, 121 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: dumbed down the industry. They're gearing this towards you know, 122 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: those texts that are looking for the silver bullets, that 123 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: don't really want to take the time to diagnose something 124 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: and resolve it by step by step calculation and diagnosis. 125 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: There's nothing you can't do with a Zeus that you 126 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: can do on your own. It's it's really that simple. 127 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: It's not. It's not that it has all the answers. 128 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: It's putting all the information in one place. It's making 129 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: a little easier a little bit more efficient. But the 130 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: cost factor is is what really has me scratching my head, 131 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: because here's the rub for all your repair shop owners 132 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: out there. The next evolution of scan tool is going 133 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: to be something as close to as, if not OE 134 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: level tooling. We are going to see from all the 135 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: sources I've talked to, we are going to see some 136 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: issues with web security and scan tool security. And all 137 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: of this started as a result of the g pack. 138 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: If you want to see what I'm talking about, go 139 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: out to YouTube and Google search. Just search rather, I'm sorry, 140 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: not Google, but search on YouTube for Jeep j E 141 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: E P Hack g pack and there's a video there 142 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: that shows how two computer programmers break into the operating 143 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: system of a late model Jeep Grand Cherokee and cause 144 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: it to steer and stop and accelerate and control the 145 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: vehicle with somebody in it. Federal government had an issue 146 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: with that. They realized that is grounds for a terrorist attack, 147 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: and they have now required car manufacturers to put encryption 148 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: and further defensive measures against hacking of vehicles into the 149 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: vehicle systems. Going forward. Is one of the first years 150 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna see this on board on Chrysler. From everything 151 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: I read and heard so the concern becomes, will aftermarket 152 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: scan tools have access to it? Will that be the 153 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: point of lockout? And the answer is nobody seems to know. 154 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: But I would be cautious about spending sixteen grand on 155 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: a scan tool with such limited functionality in my mind 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: in terms of you can do everything you can with 157 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: sixteen grand. There and then some think of the scan 158 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: tools identifis all data Mitchell, all the information systems you 159 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: can purchase prior to spending that kind of money and 160 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: learning how to diagnose the car. Nothing replaces a thought 161 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: process being logical, because here's why. If you get in 162 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: the habit of being lazy and looking for that silver 163 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: bullet fixing a car, and when you're using that scan tool, 164 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, somebody hands you a problem 165 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: and says, hey, the left headlight doesn't come on. You 166 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: can't plug a scan tool in. For that, You've got 167 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: to know that. You've got to look at and for 168 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: nation sources. You've got to know how to read a 169 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: wiring diagram. You're gonna have to know how to you know, 170 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: do some research. And that's part of being a good 171 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: technician today, being a good diagnostician, they say, and I'm 172 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: going to class three times this week so I'll have 173 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: more information about it. They say that having and spending 174 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: forty five minutes for the first hour of a diagnostic 175 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: routine is not uncommon today because of the complexity of automobiles, 176 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: and that's something you've really got to think about it. 177 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: Forty five minutes, So if you're not doing research for 178 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: that length of time, if you're not studying the problem 179 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: before attempting to repair the problem, you're doing yourself and 180 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: the customer a big disservice. And my fear is that 181 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: a tool like the Zeus Great Idea right Church wrong 182 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: pew um, it's gonna teach the text that haven't and 183 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: don't want to go to class how to take shortcuts. 184 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: And I think ultimately the consumer ends up paying for 185 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: that in the long run, because we're gonna get a 186 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: lesser quality of automotive technician out there than what we 187 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: currently have, and a lot of times we can't afford 188 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: that in a lot of ways. But just be aware, 189 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: snap on, get it together. Um. I think you've got 190 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: some work to do before you can really say this 191 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: is a revolution. It may cause one, but it clearly 192 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: isn't one. Eight five five zero nine zero zero running 193 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor coming back right after this. Hey, 194 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: welcome back the car doctorate zero nine nine zero zero. 195 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to Eric and Louisiana. Oh 196 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: eight Nissan Frontier and some questions about that and I'll 197 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: love a Nissan Ultimate. Eric. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 198 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: How can I help a couple of questions on the 199 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: my Nissan Frontier. Just like most newer vehicles have fuel 200 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: filter in the tank. What is your opinion speculation about 201 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: putting in an inline fuel filter. I don't think you 202 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: need it because you know the filtration system is already 203 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: there in the tank. Reason. Do you know why they 204 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: put all the fuel filters in the tank? Do you 205 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: know the rational album on that? Well, they they you 206 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: know it's probably fifteen years ago now. If you noticed 207 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: on on cars they did away with return lines. And 208 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: the reason they did away with return fuel lines. You know, 209 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: they pumped so much fuel up to the front of 210 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: the engine and then the excess would go back to 211 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: the excess would go back to the tank by via 212 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: a return line. And the reason they did away with 213 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: the return line was because that return line runs the 214 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: length of the car where if you notice, they always 215 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: tried to keep it away from the exhausting the hot undercarriage, 216 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: but some days you just can't. You can't change that. 217 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: And now you're pumping all this superheated fuel back into 218 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: the tank. And and the problem became that, you know, 219 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: when you heat the fuel like that and put it 220 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: back into the tank in that environment, you now raise 221 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: the pressure level in the tank and you create more fumes, 222 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: and more fumes is more emissions, and more emissions is 223 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: more pollution. So it became self defeating. You've got an 224 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: emission control that's creating emissions. So that's one of the 225 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: reasons they went away with return lines. I mean, the 226 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: second is a no brainer. They did away with return 227 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: lines because it's one less part they had to make 228 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: and charger for. But they didn't lower the price of 229 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: the car, and he did. They just keep raising the 230 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: price of the car. Um you know, it's and they're 231 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: still operating on the theory if that return line costs 232 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: them fifty cents to make fifty cents times a million 233 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: cars is x number of dollars. That's one fuel filters 234 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: are in the tank because the fuel filter, like the line, 235 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's exposed to the heat, and they feel 236 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: like they've got filtration down to the point now where 237 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: fuel filters in the tank are good for the life 238 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: of the vehicle or until the point that the pump 239 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: dies and then it gets changed with the pump. To date, 240 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I have never changed a fuel filter in the tank 241 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: as part of the fuel pump assembly. Haven't had the need. 242 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: So the theory of the engineering does hold up and 243 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: does work, and you know, it does seem to make 244 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: sense if if that helps you at all, That's what 245 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: I needed to know, all right. So hey, by the way, 246 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: it's um, how are you down there in Louisiana? Way, 247 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: you're right between You're right between Hurricane Harvey and Hurricane Irma. 248 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, are you guys affected by any of what's 249 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: going on down there, whether it was nice sunny weather, 250 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: humidity for a change, great temperature. Do you think you're 251 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: being anyway? One? Okay, I was gonna say, do you 252 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: think you're do you think you're I'm sorry, Do you 253 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: think you're being influenced by Irma that your weather changed 254 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: as a result? I think, uh, well, I don't know 255 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: anything about mediology, but I say, between the two hurricanes 256 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: he's just producing good weather. Yeah, it just kind of 257 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: pushed all the bad stuff out. So yet you had 258 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: a second question, Eric, Yeah, two thousand and eleven Nissan Ultimum. 259 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: My wife's car. Brought it into a really good service 260 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: a while back, and the book says it has an 261 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: in cabin air filter correct it. When he went to 262 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: change it, there was no in cabin assoso. That's kind 263 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: of unused. And he looked. He threw the dashboard half 264 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: apart before I figured out it wasn't one there. Yeah, 265 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, Well, I guess maybe they there was 266 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: up through oh eight oh nine. Um, I haven't done 267 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: an eleven. It's usually right behind the glove box. Yeah. No, 268 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: he detoured it all apart. There was nothing there, no 269 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: box whatt No, nothing did he did he reference at 270 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: all where it should be? Well, I didn't get in 271 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: a great detail with him about it. He just told 272 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: me the book said it was supposed to have one, 273 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: and he didn't have a place to put it. All right, 274 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: So do this, Eric, you got email, Yes, sir, send 275 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: me an email Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com. 276 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: Send me the vin, Send me the seventeen digit VIN 277 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: of that vehicle. Okay, all right, and let me do 278 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: a little research on my side because of my knowledge, 279 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: and eleven ultimate should have a cabin filter. But you know, 280 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, it's not. I'm glad you did. I'm 281 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: always I'm always, you know, because that to me is 282 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: a step backwards cabin filters or something they've added, you know. 283 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, for the longest time now, we've had cabin filters. 284 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: They didn't put him in there. Why would they start 285 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: to take it out? That doesn't make any sense. Um. 286 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: And the reason I'm the reason I'm so adamant about 287 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: it is if the car does have a cabin filter 288 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: and he can't find it for some reason, if it's 289 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: in a different spot. My concern is fifty or sixty 290 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: thousand miles from now, your wife's gonna be breeding in 291 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: you know. Um, not good stuff. I had a I 292 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: had I'll tell you a quick story. I had a 293 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: I had a I had lunch this week with someone 294 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: and we finished with lunch and he was telling me 295 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: about his car and how the air conditioning didn't work 296 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: right and the sharp accward smell and he had taken 297 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: it to a bunch of people. And this gentleman's in 298 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: radio and UM, you know. We were talking about the 299 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: radio show and some other things, and he said, yeah, 300 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: I can't seemed to find anybody that can that can 301 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: fix it. Do you think you can take a look 302 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: at it? Said sure. We went back to the shop. 303 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: I pulled the cabin filter out. If I'm lying, I'm dying. Brother. 304 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: There was about three eighths of an inch of dirt 305 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: on top of this cabin filter. It was packed on 306 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: this ford edge. And he looked at me and he said, 307 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: how come nobody else can find that? I just I 308 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: don't know. To me, it's the most logical thing in 309 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: the world. What else would it be. And my point 310 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: is that cabin filters left unchecked. This car had eighty 311 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: five thou miles on it. The filter had never been changed, 312 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: and it got to the point where he was breathing. 313 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: It was just a sharp, awkward smell. Its stunk every 314 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: time he turned on the air conditioning. It's just not 315 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: good for your health. That's why cabin filters are there. 316 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: So if the car has one, I want to find out. 317 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't, I want to find out. Why 318 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: send me the vent. I know some people at Nissan. 319 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: I'll run the vent and I'll find out how that 320 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: car was built. We'll go from there. All right, sir, 321 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: you're very welcome. You you take good care of You're 322 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: very welcome, sir, Yes, sir, Um, Yeah, that's cab and 323 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: filters are just two gosh darn important, they really are. 324 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: There's some one quick email I wanted to do here 325 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: at this one kind of got my attention. We were 326 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: talking before about self driving cars and the podcast. I 327 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: thought of this one. Um, hey, Ron, when the self 328 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: driving steering wheel lists self driving steering wheel List cars 329 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: show up at your shop for an oil, chains, brakes, 330 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: and tires, how will you drive it into the lift? Joe? 331 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: You know, Joe, that's a good question. Um. The question 332 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: I've got is how will you get that self driving 333 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: car in when it's stuck on the road, if there's 334 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: no way to steer it? How will you? Yeah, right, 335 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: how will you steer it? I don't know, you know, 336 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: it kind of becomes I guess we're gonna push it, 337 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: but you know, how are we gonna Maybe they're gonna 338 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: maybe they're going to have an auxiliary steering wheel of 339 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: some type in the trunk that you know you have 340 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: till you you have to comment. I was gonna say, 341 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of situations where you're gonna need to steer. 342 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna need to steer that car, right. You know, 343 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: My wife and I were talking about this the other day. 344 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: When I when I go to visit the mountaintop site, 345 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: I want to be being control of that thing, not 346 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: some computer. Well there's that, and there's also what will 347 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: they do? Will they have an auxiliary steering column? In 348 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: auxiliary because the self driving cars I see there's no 349 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: steering column, there's just you know, it's just it's it's 350 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: it's neuter, there's nothing there. It's it's weird. So you know, 351 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: it kind of does make you wonder how will you 352 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: get it up on the air, And maybe that's part 353 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: of the reason why it's gonna be a long time 354 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: before we see self driving cars. They can sell us 355 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: that bill are good, but actually bringing it to fruition 356 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: as a whole an other story. Um, but great question, Joe, 357 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: I love it. Zero running in Car Doctor coming back 358 00:18:38,480 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: right after this, don't go away, Welcome back Grandading the 359 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Zero nine zero zero Car Doctor Hotline. Give 360 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: us a call and let's talk about your car and 361 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: it's problem. Leave us a message during the week and 362 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: one of us will get back to and talk to 363 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: you about it. Hey, quick, car doctor, birthday shout out. 364 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Richard E. Otherwise known as Dick Cole, turns 365 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: a hundred and two today. Lieutenant Colonel Richard Cole is 366 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: the last of the Doolittle Raiders and we just wanted 367 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: to wish him, you know, all the best and uh, 368 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: here's to another hundred and two after you know he is. 369 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: He is the last survivor of the eight brave souls 370 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: that performed the Doolittle Raid at the beginning of the war. 371 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: And Lieutenant Colonel Richard Cole, h happy birthday. Brother. So 372 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: let's get over to the phones. Come and talk to 373 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: Mark Lacrosse, Wisconsin sixty seven corvette and um a past 374 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: caller into some conversation about that. Mark, Welcome back to 375 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir. What's going on? Hi, Ron, thanks 376 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: for taking the call. I just wanted to give you 377 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: some feedback. First of all, do you know we're point 378 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: Pleasant to Jersey is a sure point. Pleasant, New Jersey 379 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: is about an hour and a half south of me. 380 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: That's where my car was delivered in nineteen sixty seven 381 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: at a place called Surf Chevrolet. Yeah, I know where 382 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: Serf Chevrolet is. As a matter of fact, seven found 383 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: that out. I went to n c R. I sent 384 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: me the information and I thought that was kind of 385 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: neat that i'd let you know that area. There's got 386 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: it in Denverse. So it uh, it had a starting 387 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: issue when it was hot, and I thought i'd let 388 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: you know that we solved it by putting in a 389 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: jag starter. What what a difference that made? You know, 390 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: one of these little lightweight Um, I think it's a 391 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: geared starter with a permit magnet motor. Wow, it's just 392 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: a driver. So the purists won't like it, But I've 393 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: got the original starter for it, all rebuilt with heat 394 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: soak and not start, and with that on it, it's 395 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: starting up beautiful after it shuts down any length of time. 396 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: So I just thought i'd passed that on for anybody 397 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: else that's looking for a driver. Um, those jay starters 398 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: or what it was. Plus it saved about four pounds 399 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: of weight. You know what's you know what's really interesting, Mark, 400 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this just this past week. 401 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Is you start to look at, you know, just rebuilding components. 402 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: You know, every repair shop has their guys they go 403 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: to to, you know, to get a starter rebuilt, an 404 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: alternator rebuild, because we still do that on the rare 405 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: occasion we get the older car in, like a sixty 406 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: seven Corvette or seventy two Monte Carlo, and we don't 407 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: want to use something off the shelf because the stuff 408 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: off the shelf for the older cars just isn't there. Well, 409 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: you know that that local rebuilder, you know it was 410 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: it was started by the father back in the fifties 411 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: and the sixties or the forties, and then it went 412 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: over to the to the to the family. The son 413 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: took it over, the daughter took it over. But now 414 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: they're retired and this generation, this next generation isn't coming 415 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: into the rebuilding of electrical component business like that. So 416 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: you're seeing things mass produced like that that JEG starter, 417 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: the power Master starter, which I have to tell you 418 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: from my experience is a very good story her also. 419 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: And you sit there and you say to yourself, what's left? 420 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: Where will we be able to get parts for? Does 421 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: it bother you as the owner of a classic did 422 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: you ever think of this one? You know they talk 423 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: about all electric cars in eight or ten years and 424 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: doing away with gasoline. Does it bother you to think 425 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: that maybe someday you won't be able to buy gasoline 426 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: for that sixty seven corvette to power it? Well about 427 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: fly or two, so I could probably get to have 428 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: gas for it because I don't think they're going to 429 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: go to electric planes. Yeah, that's good point. It uses 430 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: let it gas anyway, so it loves the hunter doctane 431 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: low lad right generally put it where they're going to 432 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: be developing a non letted aviation gas underd poor long 433 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: are they really anyway? Yeah, well they have to. E 434 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: p A has given them up a waiver for now, 435 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: but it's not gonna last forever. Actually, I wonder if 436 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: air planes have catalytic converters on. I've never really thought 437 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: about that. They know, they don't know, they don't. I 438 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: wonder if I wonder if they'll figure out a way 439 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: to put them on. Uh, that would be little. Yeah. 440 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: So well, listen, you're doing and I appreciate that the 441 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: car came from your area, So well you're doing the 442 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: right thing, brother, because you're driving it. And that's what um, 443 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. Okay, well, 444 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for your help. Appreciate you're very welcome. Mark. 445 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: You take good care and have a good rest of 446 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: the weekend. Um. Yeah, it's funny you start looking back 447 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: at the history of cars and see there's a car guy. 448 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: Because car guys have to know where the car came from. 449 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: My first fifty five black one came from Tarrytown, New York, 450 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: from the g M assembly plant. Black two came from 451 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: the Tarrytown, New York assembly plant. Um, you know, you 452 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: just you just have to go and look that up, 453 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: all right. The Monte Carlo came from the assembly plant 454 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: down in Texas, not five miles from where I purchased it. 455 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: I forget the name of it, but it's down Texas Way. Uh. 456 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: You know, funny things define where the cars come from. 457 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: Did you know that If you look at a fifty 458 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: five Chevy little known fact. If you look at a 459 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: fifty five Chevrolet, look at the spiometer, if the spiedometer, 460 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: if and I've never found this to be wrong, if 461 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: the odometer inside the inside the sphenometer has a silver 462 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: ring around it, it's an early production car. If it's 463 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: just a black ring around it, it was a later 464 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: production car some cars, and it seemed that the cars 465 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: out west were more likely to have black numbers with 466 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: a white background, and the cars out east would have 467 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: white numbers with a black background. And just I've seen 468 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: them all different ways, but I've never found that to 469 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: be incorrect either. It's just the weird things you learned 470 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: looking at cars, and um, you know where they come from. 471 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: And I guess it's I guess it's important to you 472 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: have to you know, you have to know where it 473 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: came from. So let's get over and talk to data 474 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: Northern Minnesota fifty. See what's going on here? Welcome to 475 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? Hey, thanks for 476 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: taking my call. So, yeah, I've got a two thousand 477 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: one fifty. I've got about eighty five thousand miles on it. 478 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: Been a great vehicle, but intermittently, and this has actually 479 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: been going on probably since about twenty thousand miles intermittently. 480 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: When you get the key to start the engine, the 481 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: start pequence does not initiate, and if you actually, if 482 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: you hold it long enough, it will come up with 483 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I think a start engine failure. Okay, you just let 484 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: up and re rehit it, it'll start. So what is 485 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: it is? Is this push button or turn ke turn key? Okay, 486 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: so you turned the key and what happens? Nothing? And 487 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: the light the lights, a light up on the dash, 488 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, and all that. But nothing in the engine 489 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: starts there, nothing initiates, doesn't crank, you know, nothing. Now, 490 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: I did take it into the dealer and they checked 491 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: at once and they thought it was a bad ignisition switch, 492 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: and they did put another and they put a new 493 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: ignission switch in it, and it failed after that, but 494 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: it was it was that then. It was so intermittent. 495 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean this we're talking maybe once a month, and 496 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: it's it's beginning to fail more frequently now, and I'm wondering, 497 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: is there a start relay? There should be. But I 498 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: tell you what I would do. I'll tell you how 499 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: I had approached this. Has anybody scanned all the all 500 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: the all the modules on the vehicle, if you've done 501 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: a system scan, No, okay, I would do a system scan. 502 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: I'd be looking for communication fault codes. Specifically, I'd be 503 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: looking for a be as in Boy thirteen nineteen, the 504 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: other thing that indicate that indicates a communication fault, meaning 505 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: that one of the modules didn't talk and specifically in 506 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: the area of the body module itself, the b M 507 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: and the other The other thing i'd be looking for 508 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: is when it goes into this no start, I would 509 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: take a look if there's a way that. If there's 510 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: a way too, I would take a look. Right afterwards, 511 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: I would take a look at the PCM data, things 512 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: like fuel trim and some of the other changeable parameters, 513 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: to see did everything reset, Are they losing memory, is 514 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: it losing power, or is this clearly some other you know, 515 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: a mechanical failure. What I'm what I'm thinking about it 516 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: when I'm trying to go the long way around the 517 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: barn is because the last thing I would do is 518 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: look at a wiring diagram, and I would look at 519 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: fuse thirty one in the underhood fuse box. If fuse 520 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: thirty one is part of the start sequence on this vehicle, 521 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: which I believe it is, because I've seen this problem 522 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: on not necessarily A thirteen, I've seen it on twelve 523 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: and eleven. All right, that fuse thirty one is going 524 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: to have poor contact inside the fuse box. And I 525 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: kind of remember something about a TSB that talked about 526 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: rewiring and relocating fuse thirty one to a different part 527 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: of the box. And if you if you pull the 528 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: fuse out, identify which one is fuse thirty one, pull 529 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: the fuse out? Does it have a burn mark on it? 530 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: I was just funny. I was just talking about that 531 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: this past hour, the hour before, and you know, because 532 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: of the current draw on the circuit, and that would 533 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: make sense to me. And those are the things I'd 534 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: be looking for first before I went and did anything else. 535 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: I would not be I would not rule that out. 536 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: That would not be completely uncommon or impossible. UM fixed fixed. 537 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: I fixed three vehicles in the last two years, exact 538 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: same scenario when they were all left one fifties. So, uh, 539 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: is there a fairly inexpensive scan tool that I can 540 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: get to check the scan codes? Or is this something 541 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: I need to take into a shop? No, you need 542 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: to take it into a shop, because anything that's fairly inexpensive, 543 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: anything at consumer level, for lack of a better way 544 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: to put it, is just gonna do O B D two. 545 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: It's just gonna do basic engine faults. Whereas you need 546 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: something that talks across all languages and all modules and 547 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: all bodylines. Um. You know, So it's yet taken into 548 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: a shop, probably probably going to be a dealer or 549 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: a decent shopah, decent shop, any any technically competent you know, 550 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: repair facility. All right, they don't they don't have to 551 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: have a Ford I DS. But listen, I fixed I 552 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: fix a lot of cars all day along with basic 553 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: scan tools. I just I'm not that smart. I just 554 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: I just know where to look and I know how 555 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: to read. And you know, I say that all the time. 556 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: I you know, of course, somebody's gonna write me and say, no, 557 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: you're pretty smart. But whatever. My point is, you don't 558 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: have to be a genius. Sometimes you just gotta apply 559 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: yourself and um, you know, and yeah, I get a 560 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: lot of shops that I mean a lot of people 561 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: ask me that, you know, can a dealer fix this? 562 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Can a regular shop fix this? Yeah, a regular shop 563 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: can fix it. He's gotta be smarter than no where 564 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: to look and how to read. So but those are 565 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: those are the things I'd be looking at. As a 566 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: matter of fact, if you go out to I'm trying 567 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: to think of where it is. But somewhere on my 568 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Facebook page running any in the Car Doctor, you'll see 569 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: I shot a little video or I took pictures of 570 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: the burn mark of the fuse. If you want to 571 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: see what it looks like. Um, but if not, just 572 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: go look at fuse thirty one. I'd be but I 573 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: would do the scan first, because if you pull the 574 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: fuse out, you pull the fuse to look at it, 575 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: you may be erasing information. Yeah, you may be erasing information. 576 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: So do it in the sequence that I explained it. 577 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: All right, sir, and we'll go for you. You're welcome 578 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: you let me know, Dana already, take good care. Hey, 579 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: five five zero nine zero, run in any of the 580 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: car doctor, coming right back. Don't go away, welcome back 581 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: right in the end. The card doctor, five five zero 582 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: nine zero. Keep that number in mind this week because 583 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: if you need me, give us a call, leave a 584 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: message and we'll call you back and put you in queue. 585 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to tear Nebraska escape and 586 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: some problems with unintended acceleration, Terry. Welcome to the car doctor. 587 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah, thank you for taking the call. 588 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: I really didn't know I'm getting no action here, but 589 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: uh say two thousand seventeen forward fusion that I was 590 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: waiting at a traffic signal red light. The light was 591 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: still red. I had my foot on the brakes and 592 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: it was in drive. Suddenly that tachomoters started rising and 593 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: the motor was roaring, and it started dragging me forward, 594 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: even though I had the brakes on with much as 595 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: as hunch as I could, you know, And rather than 596 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: let us drag me out into a four lane highway 597 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: at the rush hour, why I did a sharp turn. 598 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: This is from a standing stop, and I just steered 599 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: it away from the main highway and the power or 600 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: the traffic pole that was holding up the signals. And 601 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: they tell me it total the car. They had to 602 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: take me with to the hospital for a check up 603 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: because it was a matter of shock. I guess I 604 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: still can't hear out of one ear because of the explosion. 605 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: But is that is that possible for the thing to 606 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: move me away from a standing start with the brakes on? 607 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: I guess what breaks? Will they let you do that? Well? 608 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: I guess the answer to that would be is take fusion, 609 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: put your foot on the brake and put your other 610 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: foot on the gas pedal, and try and floor and 611 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: see if you can drag against it. It did it 612 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,239 Speaker 1: for me, but you know, and and ultimately, because I'm 613 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: sure this will become a legal issue. It's it's that's 614 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: probably where they're gonna go. Yeah, I would think, but 615 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: they're dragging their feet. It happened July and uh. They 616 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: tell me that they can't get anything out of the 617 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: computer because it's damaged. But who's they they is the 618 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: service department for the dealership that I wanted from. Do 619 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: yourself a favorite ary if you haven't already, and I'm 620 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: sorry the clock is gonna grab us, but I would 621 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: elevate this to Ford Motor Company itself and make them aware. 622 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: They'll have engineering come out and take a look at that, 623 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: because this, to me is an engineering problem far above 624 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: the dealership service department capability, and explain to them before 625 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: this becomes a lawsuit. You're looking for some answers. Good luck, 626 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: and let us know if there's anything else we can do. 627 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: We'll try to do what we can for you. I'm 628 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: on an any in the car. Doctor. Thanks for being 629 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: here until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 630 00:33:43,760 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: See you two.