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Speaker 1: Welcome to Northside Territory, presented by Fox One Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm Sajada Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney.

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Speaker 1: We are your Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic

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Speaker 1: and Patrick, there will be.

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Speaker 2: A Game five. That was.

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Speaker 1: An amazing game, an amazing atmosphere. The Cubs have fought

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Speaker 1: back and you know forced this situation. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think to start the way Wrigley felt I was. I

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Speaker 1: was sitting next to John Greenberg in Game three and

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Speaker 1: Andy McCullough in Game four, and both times like, the

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Speaker 1: structure feels like it's shaking.

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Speaker 2: More than normal.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if what's going on, but I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: it a lot more. I noticed it for the first

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Speaker 1: time after Game three of the Padre series. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know if I stood up too quickly because the name ended.

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Speaker 1: I stood up and I felt like, oh, I'm losing

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Speaker 1: my balance, and I thought, oh, that's just me. And

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Speaker 1: then it happened again in this series multiple times. But

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Speaker 1: that place is rocking and the press box is shaking,

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Speaker 1: and we used to be able to count the number

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Speaker 1: of times that happened on our hands, and now it's

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Speaker 1: happening with regularity.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: The atmosphere is intense, and that was I believe the

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Speaker 1: biggest crowd at Wrigley last night of the season, forty

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Speaker 1: one plus. Just I mean talk about being into the game,

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Speaker 1: like Wrigly faithful.

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Speaker 2: I've taken it to another level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Freddy Chance. Yeah, we're a classic. I think

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Speaker 3: something we'll be referencing for a long time. If the

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Speaker 3: Cubs can win Game five, You're right in terms of

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Speaker 3: the structure. Like I turned to someone, I think it

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Speaker 3: was in that podres It's like you feel that, right,

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Speaker 3: was Vanessa Laman Pope from the Tribune, and it we've

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Speaker 3: felt that before. I distinctly remember, like thinking might have

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Speaker 3: been the lack ye lacky game against the Cardinals in

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen with schwar bombs and whatnot going off, but

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Speaker 3: there had been this this drought of Wrigley Field. You

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Speaker 3: just hadn't felt it, and a lot of the Cubs

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Speaker 3: hadn't given their fans a reason to shake the.

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Speaker 4: Building like that.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm I don't know how the Cubs

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Speaker 3: do it pulling off this electric atmosphere without pregame showing

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Speaker 3: a Bob Costas interview of Pat Murphy for like an hour,

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Speaker 3: which was pretty much the batting practice entertainment for the

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Speaker 3: Cubs before Games one and two.

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Speaker 4: You know, yes, I'm sure it'll be it'll be a

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Speaker 4: good way to like.

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Speaker 3: Take a nap or something before the game for long

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Speaker 3: playoffs stretch. But uh, Murphy himself had acknowledged it after

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Speaker 3: the game of just reading some of his quotes and

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Speaker 3: seeing some of the clips of Now, this I think

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Speaker 3: is part of Murphy's stick right of like we got

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Speaker 3: a lot of young guys, you know, we're yeah dogs,

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Speaker 3: you know, our guys really you know, felt it today.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna help us. We're gonna learn from that.

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Speaker 3: But it's hard to walk out of that building and

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Speaker 3: not feel like the crowd made a difference.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Matthew Boyd recognized the fans, and he really has

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Speaker 1: all season long. I mean, his numbers at home have

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Speaker 1: been better. Uh just just a great performance by him.

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Speaker 1: I don't wanna take away from it.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: I did feel a little moment of frustration that, uh,

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Speaker 1: we don't get like the seven eight inning starts as

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Speaker 1: much anymore in the playoffs. Like I saw him come

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Speaker 1: off and I was like, man, this is like baseball

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Speaker 1: just isn't as cool anymore. But look this is how

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Speaker 1: it works. Now, this is this is uh you lean

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Speaker 1: on your bullpen arms. It makes it makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. I you know, get get Christian yellich out

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Speaker 1: and that was he did a great job of that

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Speaker 1: in a big moment like that was a huge strikeout

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Speaker 1: keeping Milwaukee off the board.

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Speaker 2: And Daniel Palencia came in and did his job again.

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Speaker 2: Two bounced back outings.

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Speaker 1: That's what you wrote about, and I thought it was,

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Speaker 1: you know, spot on, like Matthew Boyd needed a bounce

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Speaker 1: back outing for this team obviously to keep going. And

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Speaker 1: Daniel Palencia faced the guy that hit a three run

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Speaker 1: homer off of him in Game two with two men

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Speaker 1: on and this time first pitch pop up. Just you know,

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Speaker 1: like good good moments for both those guys and good

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see how the season keeps building and

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Speaker 3: then even within a series, you see the momentum shift

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Speaker 3: and these characters re urge. And yeah, you had Boyd

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Speaker 3: off of Game one, clearly disappointed, hoping he'd get a

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Speaker 3: shot to make amends in game four.

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Speaker 4: After Game two.

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Speaker 3: Boyd noticed how distraught. Sorry, Palencia was and just said, bro,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna need you. We're gonna need you, like stay ready,

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Speaker 3: keep your chin up. And you know, Boyd's point was,

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Speaker 3: there's no secrets anymore. Like the teams have one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty one hundred and sixty two games plus of data.

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Speaker 4: They have all this time.

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Speaker 3: To prepare and hone in on one pitcher and one matchup,

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna have the crowd elements and everything's heightened

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Speaker 3: and magnified and you just have to punch back.

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Speaker 4: And that is what the Cubs did.

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Speaker 3: And I think, you know, if you're sort of just

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Speaker 3: tuning in like that is what this Cup team has been.

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Speaker 3: And I, you know, I did not give them really

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Speaker 3: a punch or chance. Earlier this week, I was on

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Speaker 3: the main Foul Territory show and Scott braun teed me up.

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Speaker 3: He's like, how does this happen? You know, how do

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Speaker 3: they get back into this? And I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 3: see it happening. And I was, I think understandably skeptical,

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Speaker 3: But there is something to this team of how they respond,

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Speaker 3: how they pay attention to the details, how they pick

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Speaker 3: each other up, and you know, I think they've more

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Speaker 3: than earned this shot to truly ruin the Brewers' season,

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Speaker 3: and there was one guy, you know who really came

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Speaker 3: through with a big swing. And I want to hear

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Speaker 3: kind of your backstory and how you've been working on

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Speaker 3: your Ian half story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's put Ian happ under the draft Kings

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Speaker 1: player spotlight. Uh. Yeah, I talked to and Half. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was the Monday before the playoffs started. Talked

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Speaker 1: to him at Wrigley and it was, you know, just

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Speaker 1: a simple this is gonna be a big picture story.

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Speaker 1: He was the most tenured Cub and he's been waiting.

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Speaker 1: He's the bridge between that sixteen team and this current

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Speaker 1: version of the Cubs.

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Speaker 2: Gets a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Heat from the fans, hasn't hasn't had an opportunity really

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Speaker 1: to provide a playoff moment to deliver for the fans.

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Speaker 2: And he kind of said, you can't do that.

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Speaker 1: You can't search for that, you can't chase hits, you

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Speaker 1: can't go after that. That's how you that's what leads

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Speaker 1: to failure. But you could tell, like after after the

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Speaker 1: game yet last night, that it meant a lot to

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Speaker 1: him to finally get that moment. And I mean yet again,

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Speaker 1: in the first inning. We're talking two outs, like the

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Speaker 1: Cubs on the verge of squandering an opportunity and halp

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Speaker 1: hammers of Freddy Peralta home run. He had two hits

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Speaker 1: coming into this postseason against Freddy Peralta, and obviously he

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Speaker 1: faces him a lot. I want to say, it was

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Speaker 1: like thirty plus played appearances and now he has two

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Speaker 1: home runs in the playoffs against Freddy Parolta.

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Speaker 2: The first one meaningless.

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Speaker 1: Right, it was a nine to one game, I think

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Speaker 1: at the time, and sure enough fans were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: of course he and hap hits a home run when

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, but this one mattered. Obviously, this one

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Speaker 1: was huge. It was the only runs for about four

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Speaker 1: or five innings of that game. Just, you know, a

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Speaker 1: massive swing, a massive moment for you know, a guy

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Speaker 1: that I feel like has earned that moment, has done

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Speaker 1: a lot for this team and this organization, stuck around

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Speaker 1: through you know, a non rebuild rebuild and chose to

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Speaker 1: stay here. He loved the city, loves the organization. And

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Speaker 1: one of the things I don't think I included this,

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Speaker 1: but he told me is like something he learned, something

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Speaker 1: he realized was he's been around a lot of veterans

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Speaker 1: they kind of let him know the grass isn't always

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Speaker 1: greener at better place at other places. Uh, this is

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Speaker 1: a great place to play, and like you know, there's

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Speaker 1: there's not much more you can ask for than playing

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Speaker 1: for the Chicago Cubs. And that resonated with Happen and

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Speaker 1: is a big reason why he stuck around and got

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Speaker 1: that moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you alluded to, you know, a segment of the

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Speaker 3: fan base that just seems kind of irritated by Ian Happened.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's just kind of an online

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Speaker 3: you know, a small online segment that may not be

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Speaker 3: representative of fans everywhere. But yeah, he he was kind

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Speaker 3: of the face of this is it a rebuild?

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Speaker 4: Is it not a rebuild?

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Speaker 3: You know, we're not calling this a rebuild when everyone

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Speaker 3: knows that's and uh, you know, he really found himself

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Speaker 3: as a hitter after that. You'd sell off at the

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Speaker 3: twenty one trade deadline, but throughout it he has an

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Speaker 3: amazing appreciation for Wrigley Field. I think if you kind

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Speaker 3: of pay attention to some of his answers that comes through,

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Speaker 3: He's always has those lessons from John Lester, Jason Hayward,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Rizzo, Like that is certainly a thread that runs through.

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Speaker 4: This team and he is the one who is bringing it.

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Speaker 4: And you could just.

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Speaker 3: Tell once that happened, it was like, oh the like,

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Speaker 3: now the Brewers are the ones scrambling and it's it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be really fascinating to set up here, you know,

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Speaker 3: Game five of like has this now shit like this?

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Speaker 3: Does one swing from hap kind of like make the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about some things going right for the

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Speaker 1: To Northside Territory presented by Fox one Patrick Game five

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night. We don't know who's going to start

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Speaker 1: for either team. That's a big question, you know, I might.

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Speaker 1: I initially want to say show to a managa when

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Speaker 1: when discussing that with people, a lot of people are like,

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Speaker 1: you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: So when I say people, I mean other media members.

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anybody with the Cubs about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Like my default is like trust your guys, like he

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Speaker 1: But maybe it's too risky. It's a game five and

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Speaker 1: you need to just you know, piece things together. I

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Speaker 1: would say, like Brad Keller's stuff was down whatever day,

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Speaker 2: If you go full bullpen game, that's risky.

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Speaker 1: Do you kind of just play matchups and go Colin

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Speaker 1: raid to show to and pull show to the first

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Speaker 1: sign of trouble. I don't know, but I think you

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Speaker 1: just have the same questions when you look at the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like pitching is some huge advantage for

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Speaker 1: either side right now. This is a very much a

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Speaker 1: how do you piece this together? Each manager is trying

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Speaker 3: Do the Cubs trusts Volley a little bit here? There

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Speaker 3: was a they might heard a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 3: maybe someone who could step over over the course of

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Speaker 3: three elimination games, we haven't really seen that yet. If

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Speaker 3: you're a Cubs reliever, you definitely know where you stand

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Speaker 3: right now. Craig Counsel has his guys and it has

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Speaker 3: worked unbelievably. So if my math is right, I think

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Speaker 3: three elimination games, Cubs have allowed four runs total over

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Speaker 3: twenty seven innings, which is kind of unbelievable considering the

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Speaker 3: way this was kind of scott This bullpen was sort

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Speaker 3: of like scotch taped together over the past several months.

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Speaker 4: But look, they've gotten this far.

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Speaker 3: I think obviously the clear winner in all, this is

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Speaker 3: But the Cubs have shown a lot here in terms

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Speaker 3: sort of think like, oh, well Freddie Praul is pitching,

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Speaker 3: like oh this matchup makes sense on paper, just roll

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Speaker 3: through like it doesn't work that way. And I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, when you mentioned Keller stuff, maybe he's fine,

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Speaker 3: But I just think in general, I think that's going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know I said this before the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: The offense has generally been quiet, but I thought they

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Speaker 1: know it very much is you know, these these things happen.

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Speaker 1: You know suddenly they just everything can change and you

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Speaker 1: don't even see it coming. In baseball, whether Kyle Tucker

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Speaker 2: Or not, I cannot say it looks better. The results

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Speaker 1: He's he's been getting on base much more regularly, and

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Speaker 1: he hit a home run, like that's his first extra

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Speaker 1: base hit of the postseason. And if something clicks for

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Speaker 1: him in this offense, suddenly you know, we haven't even

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Speaker 1: another home run. He's kind of turned quietly turned into

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Speaker 1: You have guys like that kind of turning a corner

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Speaker 1: or staying hot, Like is this offense? Can this offense

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Speaker 1: just be enough to carry them right now? And is

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Speaker 1: it kind of one of those things where it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we know this offense is talented, we know this offense

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Speaker 1: is good. Did they just kind of wake up? I

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Speaker 1: think about like there was no one moment perhaps for

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Speaker 1: this group, but in twenty sixteen it was kind of like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, this offense is dead. And then ben Zobras

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Speaker 2: Then you know, we know the story after that.

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Speaker 1: They they go on to win the next three and

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Speaker 1: the offense kind of wakes up and just like goes

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Speaker 2: Is that was it was yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Kind of like a moment for Kyle Tucker to be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's that power swing, because if that happens, suddenly we're

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Speaker 1: talking about a very different offensive group. Pete still hasn't

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Speaker 1: little bit better. They probably had more opportunities to attack

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Speaker 1: but you know, in general, six runs is good.

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Speaker 2: You'll take that.

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Speaker 1: So and they followed the the recipe that that Craig

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Speaker 1: Counsel is always preaching, you know, put pressure on, put

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Speaker 2: You will break through eventually.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Not only did they do that in the first inning,

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Speaker 2: Them tack on.

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Speaker 1: If you're rooting for this offense to get going, you

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Speaker 1: needed it to be more than three runs in that game.

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Speaker 1: You needed some non first inning runs to be like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Happ said that before they left Milwaukee, right of, we

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Speaker 3: need to do a better job of not putting so

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Speaker 3: much pressure on their pitchers. You saw it in those

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Speaker 3: later innings. I look forward to reading your thoughts on

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Speaker 3: Michael Bush in the Athletic and you got a piece

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Speaker 3: coming there, and you're right, even for editors, just like,

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Speaker 3: shouldn't we be writing about Michael Bush and he gets overlooked,

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Speaker 3: especially when you're hitting like leadoff. If you hit those

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Speaker 3: little easier to kind of in victories. It's different than

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Speaker 3: some of those first inning home runs that you know

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Speaker 3: an extremely consistent presents on the team. I didn't Pete

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Speaker 4: It was was interesting to hear.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, like when Tucker is getting on base like

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Speaker 3: that and able to hit for power. It just changes everything.

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Speaker 3: I Mean, the Cubs have the most accomplished hitter on

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Speaker 3: the field and they just need him to deliver. And

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Speaker 3: you know, you can tell the way he's getting pitched,

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Speaker 4: It seems like he's kind of on time and more

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, if that happens, maybe Council has

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Speaker 3: In the later innings of Game five, maybe you can

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Speaker 3: trust a reliever or showda for an extra batter or two,

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Speaker 3: or you know, you can make a mistake pitch here

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Speaker 3: or there and not have it, you know, just kill

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be fascinating if this, if this offense wakes up,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they can do against the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers look very imposing right now. Unsurprisingly, you know,

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Speaker 1: they kind of coast through the regular season and turn

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Speaker 1: it on. Not all teams have that luxury, but we'll

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Speaker 1: discuss that if we get to that. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: a massive game on Saturday. I think we're all looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it. Being forced to go back to Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: for one more night.

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Speaker 2: We'll take it.

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Speaker 1: It's fun covering this team and this group, so one

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Speaker 1: more game at least we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a wild one.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the American Family Field fans will be into it.

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Speaker 1: It'll be hard to match that regularly feel atmosphere, but

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Speaker 1: they brought it in the first two games and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be similarly wild. So we'll have more whenever this

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Speaker 1: season either continues or wraps up whatever whatever we're talking about.

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