WEBVTT - Ridiculous Update: Revisiting the Theft of the Ruby Slippers

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 2>So we went around iHeart Security and we broke into

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<v Speaker 2>the building. You can't stop, you know, But what happens

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<v Speaker 2>if they find us?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh prob I shouldn't record this part then huh crap,

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<v Speaker 3>that's too late.

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<v Speaker 2>It's oh whatever, Well, because we have to do this

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<v Speaker 2>by ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll say this is an act.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is all a big joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So you probably remember that we aired an episode on

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<v Speaker 2>June twenty ninth, twenty three called Slip Sliding Away the

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<v Speaker 2>theft of Judy Garland's ruby slippers. Oh hell yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what fun time we had that you weren't even there.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't just laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great. So the story it wrapped up with

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<v Speaker 2>the latest development at the time when I told producer

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<v Speaker 2>Dave about it. On Tuesday May fifteenth, twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>this seventy six year old dude in Minnesota named Terry Martin.

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<v Speaker 2>He got indicted for one count of theft of a

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<v Speaker 2>major artwork in the shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was you know, that's how I closed it out,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you know, the slippers that, of course, were

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<v Speaker 2>stolen from the Judy Garland Museum, Grand Rapids, Minnesota, August

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight, two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to get our tickets, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, So the ones that were recovered Interesting Operation, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>September two thousand and nine. So, for whatever reason, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two years after the heist, fourteen years after the slippers

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<v Speaker 2>were recovered, Old Terry gets busted. And you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>pleaded guilty to the heist five months after his indictment

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<v Speaker 2>October twenty twenty three. He showed up for sentencing in

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<v Speaker 2>January twenty twenty four in a wheelchair and on supplementary oxygen.

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<v Speaker 2>Judge took pity on him and he was sentenced to

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<v Speaker 2>time served. They're like, you know, your life is hellish enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had a long history of burglary and receiving

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<v Speaker 2>stolen property. So his attorney, this guy Dane Decraye. He's

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer Decraye, Dane of the Craze. Uh so he he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Terry was trying to just pull off one

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<v Speaker 2>last score.

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<v Speaker 3>I do declare I'm Dane de Crag so I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>hung up on.

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<v Speaker 2>That de cray Z. So Terry, he was like guys

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<v Speaker 2>trying to just pull off one last score. And he

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<v Speaker 2>uses the phrase one last score after an old buddy

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<v Speaker 2>his with mob ties told him where the shoes were,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that the mob guy was like, Terry, all

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<v Speaker 2>that sparkle on the shoes, that's from real jewels. Terry

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<v Speaker 2>believed him, the mob aphiliate guy, He's like, that's why

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<v Speaker 2>they're so valuable, taby, Terry's like a lot. And so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, neither of these guys understood the precious nature

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<v Speaker 2>of nostalgia or cultural currency, or fame or sentiment. So

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<v Speaker 2>Terry took the shoes so like took him to his

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<v Speaker 2>fence zing and then fence broke it to Terry that

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<v Speaker 2>the rubies were actually glass. So Terry rid himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the slippers. Did he explain the value of Judy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he broke out into song and yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>This is where the value comes.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, hold on a second, clang clang clang. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So Terry got rid of those slippers. But his attorney

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm not going to tell you how, why, where, when? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's not the end. So December seventh is a

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<v Speaker 2>day that will live in infamy. Saren not just because

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<v Speaker 2>it's the day that our nation came under attack in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty one, kicking off our involvement in World War two.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, yes, bro Harbor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just this year, December seventh, twenty twenty four. Uh huh,

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<v Speaker 2>those iconic ruby slippers sold at auction. Really, Heritage Auctions

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<v Speaker 2>was running things. They figured the slippers would get about

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<v Speaker 2>three million at auction.

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<v Speaker 3>Three million.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Online bidding opened in November of twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, online bidding, I missed my window.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on, you totally did. The top bid hung at

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<v Speaker 2>about like one point five to five million before live

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<v Speaker 2>bidding began on the afternoon of December seventh. Right, so

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<v Speaker 2>within minutes, the top bid was almost ten million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, more than triple the estimated final bid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was just doing that matter right, I could

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<v Speaker 3>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the phone bids, they're coming in fast. The callers

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<v Speaker 2>are one upping each other. It's climbing. It's like sane, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>really quickly. For fifteen minutes. When all was sudden done,

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<v Speaker 2>the winning bid emerged twenty eight million dollars. Whoa for

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<v Speaker 2>a pair of busted up slippers.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the value of Judy Garland.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and then you factor in the auction house's

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<v Speaker 2>feet final bill thirty two point five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you help me pick my job back up?

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<v Speaker 2>Auction house is making bank house. We totally do. Who

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<v Speaker 2>was the winning bidder?

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<v Speaker 3>Who was Elizabeth?

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<v Speaker 2>None other than Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm totally kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>The shoes were his size. Now the actual winner.

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<v Speaker 3>iHeart he was going to send him into Mars. He

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<v Speaker 3>was right at the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Iheartradiown nice as a holiday gift for us.

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<v Speaker 3>You are all still kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I have one hundred percent kidding. The buyer wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>remain anonymous. Oh that update out of the way. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>take a trip down the yellow brick memory lane and

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<v Speaker 2>listen to me show exactly why I'm universally known as

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<v Speaker 2>America's sweetheart and captivate you with the tale of the

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<v Speaker 2>stolen Ruby Slippers. David City, Elizabeth Dunton, Hey, how Dave?

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<v Speaker 2>The others? Aaron? How are you today?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all right, I'm sweating a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, okay, same. You know it's ridiculous, I do, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know anything about how crazy McDonald Land is.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's like McDonald land in actual place or like

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<v Speaker 2>the fictional universe of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like imagine you know the origins of where McDonald land

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<v Speaker 4>came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, No, I don't know anything about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first, it comes out of Willard Scott's work as

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<v Speaker 4>Boza the Clown. He's the original Ron McDonald right right.

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<v Speaker 4>And McDonald's goes to an ad agency. Of course, this

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<v Speaker 4>was like it used to be. It's now DDB. It

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<v Speaker 4>used to be Needham, Harper and Steers. They're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>can you make us like a whole thing out of this,

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<v Speaker 4>just like do a whole thing. Yeah, and they're like, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So the first commercial comes in nineteen seventy one and

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<v Speaker 4>at this time, you know the purple dude Grimace. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>back then his name, his official government name is Evil Grimace.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're kidding me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're like, we need a land, a mythical, mystical

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<v Speaker 2>land surrounding our Hammurgers. Let's have an evil character.

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<v Speaker 4>Involved, not just one, there's like multiple the Hamburglar and

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<v Speaker 4>you've got Captain Crook at the time, who you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like you can't miss the name all their whole thing

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<v Speaker 4>is all like shoplifting, and Ronald stops them from shoplifting,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that's supposed to get you into the restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, running from shoplifters.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like I don't know, Like, are you like, oh

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<v Speaker 4>that that must be in high demand because people keep

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<v Speaker 4>five fingering all their food. But like, just to give

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<v Speaker 4>you a sense of how weird the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 4>in seventy one. In seventy three, Sid and marty Croft,

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<v Speaker 4>those of you know hr puff and stuff, and like

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<v Speaker 4>Siden marty Croft's World of was like World of Puppets

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<v Speaker 4>in Atlanta, which was before CNN Center was CNN Center

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<v Speaker 4>was in that building. Anyway, they did some real trippy stuff, right.

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<v Speaker 4>They sued McDonald's successfully. They got a fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>settlement and then it was appealed and they got a

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<v Speaker 4>million dollar settlement from McDonald because the McDonald's stuff looked

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<v Speaker 4>too much like the Croft's hr puffin stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's not the only weird thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, so Evil Grimace. Much later people are trying to

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<v Speaker 4>find out like, hey, what is Grimace? Right? This has

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<v Speaker 4>been like even before the Internet. There was lore of, like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>what the hell is Grimace?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, the gum drop.

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<v Speaker 4>As far as we can tell from official McDonald's spokesperson

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<v Speaker 4>Official McDonald's Twitter account, they said, quote, Uh, are you

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<v Speaker 4>ready for this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I'm totally ready.

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<v Speaker 4>Grimace Lare says he is the embodiment of a milkshake

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<v Speaker 4>or a taste bud.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, grim is a taste bun.

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<v Speaker 4>How gross is that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's so disgusting? But is there a bunch of Grimace

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<v Speaker 2>stuff out now? Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think he's hitting it big now for some reason?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a shake? Is there a Grimace Shake?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Grimace's uncle, Grimsumple's name is O Grimacy. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's the one promoting the Shamrock Shake.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Irish slander over here.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know if, like, is is O Grimacy

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<v Speaker 4>like a bad taste bud? And that's why he's promoting

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<v Speaker 4>the Shamrock shake and Grimace is like a pretty good

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<v Speaker 4>taste bud.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, if you're drinking a Grimace shake? Is

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<v Speaker 2>there a Grimace Shake? Why do I feel like there is?

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<v Speaker 2>I keep thinking I see this stuff on social media.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty twenty one, This is the Shamrock the grimacy shake.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's basically liquefied taste buds, is what you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say to me, David.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what freaks me out is like, imagine you're a

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<v Speaker 4>little kid and you're just going to hug this big

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<v Speaker 4>purple thing and it's a taste bud, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You taste saliva on someone's tongue. Yeah, because then is

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<v Speaker 2>this just an independent taste bud or an invisible tongue.

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<v Speaker 4>It leaves a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of questions about the McDonald's universe.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is ridiculous, pretty ridiculous, Right, that's ridiculous. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to know what else is ridiculous? I would stealing

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<v Speaker 2>sequined shoes. Ooh, this is ridiculous. Crime A podcast about

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<v Speaker 2>absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons. It's always ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fact check.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally, Dave. You've seen the movie The Wizard of Oz, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, yeah, and I've seen the Whiz so sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But like Wizard of Oz, the original came out in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty nine, it was still really popular when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid.

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<v Speaker 4>Originally in black and white right, and they had to

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<v Speaker 4>colorize it later.

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<v Speaker 2>That's part of the whole thing in the film is that,

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<v Speaker 2>like when she goes to, oh yeah, the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>it's color right. So but it was like a spectacular

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was incredible, Like it used to come

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<v Speaker 2>on TV once a year and like I'd get all excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think young people these days are as familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with Wizard of Oz.

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<v Speaker 4>They could just tell him the creepy urban myth, yeah right,

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<v Speaker 4>that would get them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, So here, I think cable pushed the Wizard of

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<v Speaker 2>Oz out of the mainstream. That's my theory because like

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<v Speaker 2>in my house, we were really really late adopters of cable,

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<v Speaker 2>so we were still relying on like network movies. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it kind of fell off sometime, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, in the nineties. It's just it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's not just me. Our researcher Andrea. She mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>it too that kids these days don't seem to know

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<v Speaker 2>the media that like we or our parents or our

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<v Speaker 2>grandparents knew. Like the Internet gives us too much choice,

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<v Speaker 2>is what she was. She was thinking kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of like when when I was little and we finally

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<v Speaker 4>got HBO, and they showed Savannah smiles over and over

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<v Speaker 4>and over again. I don't know why it's not a

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<v Speaker 4>good movie. I think it's like one of the O'Neills

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<v Speaker 4>or something. But yeah, I hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just it murders it. So we don't do

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<v Speaker 2>murder here. Zaren. He actually talks about this sometimes that

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<v Speaker 2>like each generation seems to have a shorter and shorter

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<v Speaker 2>range of historical or cultural knowledge. So keeping that in

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<v Speaker 2>mind anyway. The Wizard of Oz the movie is based

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<v Speaker 2>on a book by L. Frank Baum called The Wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>Wizard of Oz and that was written in nineteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and In the movie, Dorothy Gale lives in Kansas with

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<v Speaker 2>her aunt and uncle. Some ladygoon in town wants to

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<v Speaker 2>have Dorothy's dog, Toto put down, and it's a cairen terrier.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can tell you that they are an acquired taste.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you say, did you say a carring terrier.

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<v Speaker 2>A cairen like c A I R N.

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<v Speaker 4>Got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's of Scottish origin, a terrier. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're just nasty little dogs for the most part.

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<v Speaker 2>But Toto, he didn't deserve a visit to the executioner.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom had a car and terrier named Finn, who

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<v Speaker 2>could be such a jerk but then super sweet. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have a scar on my shin from where he

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<v Speaker 2>bit me once, but I probably deserved it anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I feel about my dog bites too, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, I pushed the wrong buttons. So Dorothy, she

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<v Speaker 2>legs it with Toto and gets caught in a tornado,

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<v Speaker 2>wakes up in the Land of Oz. Her house landed

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<v Speaker 2>on one of the batties, the Wicked Witch of the East,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Dorothy helps herself to the witch's red ruby

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<v Speaker 2>slippers heads off to get help returning home from the

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<v Speaker 2>Great oz Over in Emerald City. So that's just brief recap.

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<v Speaker 2>The slippers are the key to her being able to

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<v Speaker 2>get home. She has to tap her heels together three

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<v Speaker 2>times and say, there's no place like him. You remember that, Rainelle.

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<v Speaker 4>It was always a little confusing because like the ruby slippers,

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<v Speaker 4>but she's they got heels right.

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<v Speaker 2>They got heels, ye, yeah, yeah, they're like little you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sensible pumps. Uh. So the next thing you know, she's

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<v Speaker 2>back home and everyone's like chuckling about her bunked out

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<v Speaker 2>dream and we don't know if the sheriff has lifted

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<v Speaker 2>the bounty on Toto's head. The movie gave us the

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<v Speaker 2>song over the Rainbow that won an Oscar for Best

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<v Speaker 2>Original Song on Hollywood's Biggest Night. I've got a totally

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<v Speaker 2>unpopular opinion. I can't stand that Hawaiian guys version of

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah yeah, that makes me want to commit crimes anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>The slippers, the sensible pumps, the kitten heels, they're iconic, iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>In the book, they's silver, though, but MGM changed the

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<v Speaker 2>color of the Magical slippers to ruby red, and this

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<v Speaker 2>would have a much more visual impact on film because

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<v Speaker 2>color film was really rare when the movie came out

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<v Speaker 2>in thirty nine. And the color in the movie is,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, a key part of the plot. So

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<v Speaker 2>in the screenplay you can actually see where the writer

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<v Speaker 2>crossed out silver and wrote ruby. Oh wow, yeah, these

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<v Speaker 2>shoes they're covered in glittering red sequins. They're fabulous.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like the last time when a technical

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<v Speaker 4>innovation will actually like meaningfully be used in a movie

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<v Speaker 4>instead of meaninglessly like Jaws three D when they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we just got to throw things at the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>D well, I mean I must. It must be sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like the bullet time and the matrix, like all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden it was everywhere, but then you'd never

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<v Speaker 2>seen it before and it's so crazy. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we have like the yeah, this changeover to color,

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<v Speaker 2>these iconic fabulous shoes. Who was the iconic woman who

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<v Speaker 2>wore the iconic slippers? Miss Judy garlandg mother of Liza

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<v Speaker 2>Minelli so Garland. She was born Francis Ethel Gumm in

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<v Speaker 2>Grand Rapids, Minnesota, in nineteen twenty two. Grand Rapids, Minnesota, Timbertown,

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<v Speaker 2>population seventy seven hundred. Do you know who else was

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<v Speaker 2>from Grand Rapids, Minnesota? Hugh Beaumont, who played Ward Clever

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<v Speaker 2>on Leave It to Beaver. Okay, so in Grand Rapids, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the Judy Garland Museum. I don't believe there's a

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<v Speaker 2>Hugh Beaumont museum.

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<v Speaker 4>What about it in Grand Rapids, Michigan. In case people

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<v Speaker 4>get confused, I keep saying, does that two museums?

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<v Speaker 2>I kept typing out Grand Rapids Minnesota. So anyway, we

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<v Speaker 2>know when I was little and I would watch reruns

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<v Speaker 2>of Leave It to Beaver, you know, come home after

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<v Speaker 2>school and they got all these reruns on. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>his name was Hubo Mont.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a better name.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a very smart child. So Judy Garland Museum.

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<v Speaker 2>It opened in nineteen seventy five. It describes itself veusly quote.

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<v Speaker 2>The Judy Garland Museum is home to an eclectic Judy

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<v Speaker 2>Garland and Wizard of Oz collect Judy's nineteen twenties restored

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<v Speaker 2>birthplace home the Children's Discovery Museum on two acres of

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota beauty. The museum hosts thoughtfully curated exhibits and artifacts,

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<v Speaker 2>including the original carriage featured in The Wizard of Oz,

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<v Speaker 2>a Dorothy Gale test dress worn by Judy Garland, and

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<v Speaker 2>many personal Judy Garland items collected over the last forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget to take home a souvenir at the museum store.

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<v Speaker 4>Old Q tips and.

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<v Speaker 2>Collected. It makes it sound like they snuck into her trash.

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<v Speaker 2>And So Judy Garland died, though I hate to say

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<v Speaker 2>June twenty second, nineteen sixty nine, a man named Michael Shaw.

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<v Speaker 2>He bought those ruby slippers in nineteen seventy, a year

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<v Speaker 2>after she died from costumer Kent Warner. So Michael Shaw

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<v Speaker 2>buys them. Who is Michael Shaw. I'm glad you asked that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an acting coach. He's also the voice of Kit

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<v Speaker 2>of night Rider.

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<v Speaker 3>But on the on the show, not.

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<v Speaker 2>On the show, just for the Universal Studios to her,

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<v Speaker 2>so they couldn't get the same person, so they had

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<v Speaker 2>they have Michael Shaw to it. He was a child

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<v Speaker 2>actor at MGM and he played one of the kids

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<v Speaker 2>in the Halloween scene and Meet Me in Saint Louis,

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<v Speaker 2>another Judy Garland film. So when traveling to conferences, he

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<v Speaker 2>would share stories with the audience about his time as

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<v Speaker 2>a child during the Golden Age of Hollywood, sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>Judy Garland's lap. Yes, David over there, Yes, I can

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<v Speaker 2>take this question.

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<v Speaker 4>Would he do it in the sound of Kit Kit.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take your question, Michael Judy Garland it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hope that he would. I'd be disappointed. But

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<v Speaker 2>so he's talking about Golden Age Hollywood. He's like sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on Judy Garland's lap. They watch movies together. She's super

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<v Speaker 2>nice to all the kids. She's like, you know, takes

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<v Speaker 2>care of them all. And so Michael Shaw. He's also

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<v Speaker 2>an avid collector of film memorabilia. He owns a gown

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<v Speaker 2>from the nineteen thirty eight film Marie Antoinette, Bet you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that? And the Golden Calf and tablets from

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<v Speaker 2>Cecil B. De mills nineteen fifty six film The Ten Commandments.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I wonder if they're like they look gold at all,

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<v Speaker 4>or if they're right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just all like like beige color. Now, yes, Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 2>he collects all this stuff. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>on display and a home. He refuses, Shaw, it's over

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<v Speaker 2>his kitchen table. He's got the above, the fireplace is

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<v Speaker 2>the is the Golden calf, and then the kitchen table

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<v Speaker 2>has it you know with like it says like gather

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<v Speaker 2>and then.

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<v Speaker 4>The shell command in this house thou shalt not.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this house. We watched The Ten Commandments. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't He didn't want to tell anyone how much he

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<v Speaker 2>paid Kent Warner for the Ruby slippers. Quote. I never

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<v Speaker 2>talk about prices. Okay, okay, it's good for you. However,

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<v Speaker 2>there were reports that he he paid twenty five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for the Ruby slippers. So keep that, keep that ballpark. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's good change. And we're talking about yeah, yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>Shaw thought of himself as a sort of protector of

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<v Speaker 2>the slippers and an ambassador to Judy Garland's legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been given the respectibility of taking care of

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<v Speaker 2>this pair of shoes, and I'd like to think that

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<v Speaker 2>Judy is looking down smiling, knowing that her famous pumps

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<v Speaker 2>are being used for such good causes.

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<v Speaker 4>I like theop kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh totally, so Shaw, He tells this story so many

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<v Speaker 2>times over the years. This the story I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you right now. You ready. He said that he

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<v Speaker 2>found out at a friend of his was battling aids

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<v Speaker 2>at UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is like in the early days of the epidemic,

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<v Speaker 2>when people thought that they could get it from just

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<v Speaker 2>like shaking hands. The stigma's incredible. Yeah. So Shaw, he

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<v Speaker 2>brings the ruby slippers to this friend's room. He rests

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<v Speaker 2>the slippers on his friend's chest, and the man goes

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<v Speaker 2>from absolutely just like terrible anguish and pain to just

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<v Speaker 2>overcome with joy. And then the friend died a few

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<v Speaker 2>hours later. That friend, according to Shaw, was Kent Warner,

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<v Speaker 2>the costumer and former owner of the slippers. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>So this was like he would tell this to show

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<v Speaker 2>how important ruby slippers are to people, like I said

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<v Speaker 2>icon Nick. When he was working as a Hollywood costumer,

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<v Speaker 2>Kent Warner found three pairs of prop shoes as well

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<v Speaker 2>as an off screen test pair of ruby slippers, just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in a warehouse season there, oh crap. MGM

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<v Speaker 2>was getting ready to auction off pieces in costumes like

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<v Speaker 2>from old movies. So Shaw picks up the slippers as

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<v Speaker 2>well as Dorothy's Gingham dress, Munchkin costume, and the Wicked

0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.959
<v Speaker 2>Witch of the West hat and her broomstick. He just

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<v Speaker 2>like gets all the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a haul.

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<v Speaker 2>And so then he sold a pair of the test

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<v Speaker 2>slippers to that they were the ones that weren't worn

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<v Speaker 2>in the film. He sells into Debbie Reynolds for three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks bargain.

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<v Speaker 4>She got a deal. Yeah she was a friendly right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, there were piles. So then he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to sell another pair to Reynolds. She wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>open her own Hollywood memorabilia museum, and like she had

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<v Speaker 2>an assistant who was there who was helping her with this.

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<v Speaker 2>So the assistant bought the ruby slippers but kept them

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<v Speaker 2>for himself. Who was that assistant? Michael Shaw voice of

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<v Speaker 2>Kit at Universal Studios. Tim Gearing of the Minnesota Monthly

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<v Speaker 2>wrote this really good article about this whole escapade. In it,

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<v Speaker 2>he writes, quote and by all accounts he Warner remained

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<v Speaker 2>furious with Shaw right up to his death because he'd

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<v Speaker 2>intended for the slippers to go to Debbie Reynolds. So

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Shaw made up that whole story about visiting Warner

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<v Speaker 2>in the hospital. Oh, it's terrible. That's terrible because apparently

0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Warner hated him. There's no way he did this. Everyone's like,

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.239
<v Speaker 2>there's absolutely no way. You know, if he visited him

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<v Speaker 2>on his deathbed, then I'm a flying monkey, says one insider.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who that is. So anyway, we have

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<v Speaker 2>this like this character Shaw, who's got, you know, gotten

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<v Speaker 2>his hands on these things. And I'm not so sure

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<v Speaker 2>it was in the best means. Let's take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, I'm going to tell you a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more about these slippers. All right, So Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Shaw got the ruby slippers supposed to go to Wie Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't happen. Warner, though, the costumer, he kept a pair

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 2>of ruby slippers for himself, and then he gave a

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<v Speaker 2>pair away to an auctioneer, and he told the auctioneer,

0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 2>these are the only pair of slippers that exist. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, everyone's kind of telling stories around here. They

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<v Speaker 2>had this multi day auction at MGM where they filmed

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<v Speaker 2>The Wizard of Oz. There was another auction that was

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<v Speaker 2>like marking the end of the glory days of old Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was described as a giant eighteen day wake

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<v Speaker 2>for Hollywood in the nineteen eighty nine book The Ruby

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<v Speaker 2>Slippers of Oz. So the ruby slippers that went to

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<v Speaker 2>auction were apparently the star of the show and they

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<v Speaker 2>sold for fifteen thousand dollars. Good appreciation on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Any way, these are the backups or these are the actual.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the backups that he told the auctioneer were

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<v Speaker 2>the only parent existence. But there are a couple other

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<v Speaker 2>pairs floating around. So the auction ends, a Memphis resident

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 2>comes forward to reporters and tells them, guess what I

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<v Speaker 2>won the authentic ruby slippers in a contest in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty And then they start putting it all together. There

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<v Speaker 2>weren't just one pair of ruby slippers. There's a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of them. So over time, all these people that are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to tabulate it up. It turns out that there

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<v Speaker 2>are four on screen pairs and one off screen test pair.

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Rhys Thomas, author of The Ruby Slippers of Oz, quote,

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 2>these shoes are the holy grail of all Hollywood memorabilia.

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 2>There isn't anything else that does more to evoke the

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>power of belief.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if that's still true.

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I doubt probably not. So Shaw told this guy quote,

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 2>the shoes themselves are worthless. It's what they are and

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:59.360
<v Speaker 2>what they represent. Okay, so they aren't worthless.

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 4>It's the friends say along the way.

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. So there's this appraiser, Laura Woolley of Antiques Road Show.

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>She said, quote, there's a much deeper emotional connection with memorabilia.

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Most people encounter these objects or develop a fondness for

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 2>them in childhood. It sounds like a like a psychological Yeah,

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like, you know, they have in childhood, and

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 2>when you grow up and suddenly you're an adult with

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 2>money to spend, you can recapture something from you if

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 2>most of these things kind of turn people back into children, Okay, lady.

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 4>I only sounds Funko pops, Yes.

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Funko pops.

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:38.919
<v Speaker 2>She probably sounds like a totally normal person in my

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 2>major sound marginally AI Anyway, Thomas, he spent decades researching

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 2>the history of all these these various pairs of ruby

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 2>slippers flying around. In nineteen seventy nine, the purchaser of

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.159
<v Speaker 2>the auction slippers, the one that for fifteen thousand, donated

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 2>those to the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History, and

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.360
<v Speaker 2>then a curator at the Smithsonian said that they're kept

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 2>in a locked case with an alarm, and they're under

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:09.239
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hour guard surveillance. So these these things are

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 2>to be protected, Dave. They're They're a major part of

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 2>pretty much, you know. I mean, that's who we are,

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 2>it's what we believe.

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 4>So when people say we're bigger than this, we are

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 4>talking about those.

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Slippers precisely, precisely so this they said that any tampering

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.199
<v Speaker 2>would immediately send a message to the guard's office. So

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just wired. Can't get in there. That Memphis woman

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 2>who won the pair in the forties or whatever, she

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>sold them in nineteen eighty eight to a collector at

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>an auction for one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars.

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 2>That's a come up, Yeah, it is. I mean, she's

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 2>a good job lady.

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and she won them, right, she previously she won them.

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 2>So now she's got one hundred and sixty five grand.

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>She you know, sells them to this collector. The collector

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 2>was a huge Garland fan, and that he'd seen her

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>in concert thirty five times and even attended her funeral.

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 2>And so that person turned around and loaned the ruby

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.719
<v Speaker 2>slippers to Disney World for display before selling them at

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 2>auction in two thousand and four six hundred and sixty

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 2>six thousand dollars.

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 4>Wow, and if you're Disney, you're getting some serious rent

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 4>on the one thing.

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh totally, totally so six ' six y six k right.

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>A group of collectors and investors, one of the Slipper Consortium,

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 2>David L. Koubi, said to Newsweek, quote, we were collectors,

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and for us, that's the ultimate prize. So now, where

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 2>do they live? In a bank vault? They live in

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>a bank.

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 4>Vau Oh perfect, that's exactly where.

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>There's no place like home. So nineteen eighty one, three

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>years before he died at UCLA Medical Center, most likely

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 2>not clutching the Ruby slippers, Kurt Warner sold his pair

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>of Ruby slippers at auction for twelve thousand dollars in

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty one. Then in twenty twelve, the person who

0:26:56.359 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 2>bought them sold those for two million, two million dollars

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 2>million a shoe to a group of people who bought

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>them for the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean that's like a grand a sequin pretty much.

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>But you know who is in this group that paid

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 2>two mil Leo DiCaprio and Steven Spielberg of.

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 4>Course, Oh, Steven Spielberg.

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Of course you knew Leo and Stevie.

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:22.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need that.

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>So twenty eleven, Debbie Reynolds sold her test pair that

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 2>she did get for six hundred twenty seven thousand at

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 2>an auction. Those shoes were called the Arabian Test Pair,

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and they got their name because they had an experimental

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 2>design with curled toes.

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 4>Whoa ooh heillo. Yeah.

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 2>So this is what Debbie Reynolds had to say. Quote,

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I know Judy wore them, and I know she liked

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 2>them best of all, she said, I want the pair

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>with a pointy toe. Apparently Judy didn't get what Judy wanted.

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing though, Like Dorothy's dress, is that

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.919
<v Speaker 2>of a simple farm girl gingham for day. And they

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 2>thought that the Arabian style shoes were just too ornate,

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 2>as if like sequined pumps aren't. But okay, you know,

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I get it. So now that we have a better

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 2>understanding of the high stakes world of ruby slippers, let's

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 2>head back to Grand Rapids, Minnesota and the Judy Garland Museum. Dave,

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 2>close your eyes.

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 4>What okay? And now what you do here? I'm picturing it.

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I want you to picture it.

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 4>Eyes are closed.

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 2>It's August twenty eighth, two thousand and five, and you're

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 2>a haunted porcelain doll sitting on display at the Judy

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Garland Museum in Grand Rapits, Minnesota.

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, you.

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Were one of one of Judy's childhood favorite toys, maybe

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>because you were haunted even way back then. You sit

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 2>on your shelf watching judging. It's been a long day

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 2>at the Judy Garland Museum in Grand Rapids, Minnesota. But

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>night has fallen and the rest of the haunted items

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>are going about their business, whimpering or plotting to shove

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>a vase to the floor. It's just past two am.

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Red round.

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Suddenly you hear a commotion at the back of the museum.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Then glass breaks. Your creepy glass eyes shift in your

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>haunted porcelain skull to peer at the hallway. A figure

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>approaches the teddy bear next to you, senses trouble, and

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>its eyes begin to glow. You use your esp to

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 2>tell the bear to knock it off. Well, now is

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>not the time to use your powers to slash the

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 2>human with a broken bottle. You guys are saving all

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>that for the uprisings. For now. You and the other

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>haunted Sundrys watch as a person tiptoes into the room.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 2>The burglar approaches the plexiglass case directly across the room

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 2>from you. This should be interesting, you think. The robber

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>gently whistles a tune and lifts a crowbar high above

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>their head. The haunted typewriter begins to slack out some

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 2>ribbon for a garat no. You signal ever so slightly.

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 2>That display has been getting all the attention late lately.

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Let the criminal do their work with a great force.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 2>The burglar brings the crowbar down onto the plexiglass case,

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>splintering it. The haunted random cassette tape stacked in a

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 2>bookcase hiss, yes, Yes, the large carriage in the next

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 2>room creaks with delight at the chaos. The burglar hears

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the noise and freezes dead silence. The person goes back

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>to the job at hand. They gently lift the pair

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 2>of iconic ruby slippers from the destroyed case and tiptoe

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>back out. There's much silent chatter among all the haunted

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 2>items at the museum about who that was and where

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>the slippers would go. Unfortunately, the slippers weren't haunted. There's

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 2>no way to get a message to them and track them.

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>This is when it pays to be haunted, Dave. Come morning,

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 2>when the staff opened the museum to the Garland loving public,

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>all hell broke loose. The stolen ruby slippers weren't part

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>of the museum's permanent collection. They were on loan to

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 2>the museum, on display for the annual Judy Garland Festival.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Who owned these stolen ruby slippers Michael shaw Kit He

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>would often lend the slippers for thousands of dollars to

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>museums to display, and then he would turn around and

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 2>he said, donate the money to children and charities which

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>he may have. You know, let's give him the benefit

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 2>of the doubt. This is what he said. Quote, I

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>literally felt like I was hit in the stomach when

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I got the call. My knees buckled and I went

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.959
<v Speaker 2>right to the floor. I had taken care of those

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 2>shoes for thirty five years. John Miner, who co founded

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the museum and was also the treasurer. He said quote,

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I cried. I couldn't believe this happened to us, because

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 2>it was the stupidest thing.

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 4>This is like the most dramatic thing that could happen

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 4>to the most dramatic people in the world.

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, it's so wonderful. I love this so much.

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Christopher Myers, who was a US attorney in North Dakota.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>He was somehow involved in the case. I don't know

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>why he was working in Minnesota whatever. So quote there's

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>a certain romance in these types of schemes and sometimes sophistication,

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 2>but at the end of the day, it's theft. These

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>types of offenses not only deprived the owner of their property,

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 2>but all of us. This type of cultural property is

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>important to us as a society. It reflects culture, It

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 2>holds our memories, it reflects our values. He's totally running

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 2>for office, right like he's running, baby, I mean.

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 4>People would not even know that the ruby slippers were gone.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 4>First of all, there's like a million pairs of them.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 4>And second of all, right, like everyone has that copy

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 4>of Life magazine with a picture of them, and that's

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 4>all they need in their lips they need.

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>They're done. So there are the slippers, the ones that

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 2>bring so much joy uniting our culture. They are sitting

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>in the Judy Garland Museum in Grand Rapids, Minnesota, and

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, they're not. Shaw had declined

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>the museum's offer to store the Ruby slippers in a

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 2>vault because he said he didn't like the idea that

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 2>the guards would be touching these shoes on a daily basis.

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>He said all he cared about was having security, even

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>just like as a baseline. So there was no security

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 2>camera footage of the break in and no fingerprints, just

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>a lone speck of red sequin left behind. The museum

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>did have both an alarm system and video surveillance equipment,

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 2>but neither one we're working at the time of the burglary.

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 4>Inside job.

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly job. Oh everyone's saying it's an inside job. Well,

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 2>here's what the museum said. They said that they told

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the alarm company to turn off the alarm during the

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.719
<v Speaker 2>day because museum visitors kept using the back door. So

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>instead of saying do not open, like just give him

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.479
<v Speaker 2>free egress out the back, turn off the alarm. So

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and because the thing is is like when the alarm

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>would go off, it would alert the police, and then

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>if you have enough false alarms, they start charging you

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>in the medium couldn't afford it. So the alarm company

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, that's totally not what happened. We were told

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 2>to disable the alarm completely, not just during the day.

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 2>And then with CCTV, everyone knew. They turned the CCTV

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>off at night save energy. What I don't know, it's

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 2>like peak hours. Who knows.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 4>I feel like when you know, when Indiana Jones said

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 4>just belongs in a museum, this is not what he

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 4>had in mind.

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>No, this is.

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Totally not animly. So the museum director, John kel She said,

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>quote everyone knew we didn't have any security staff. Michael

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Shaw knew that. It's just sad that it happened here.

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 2>It is like, yeah, everyone knew. It's just so sad.

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>There was like people thought that the ruby slippers were

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 2>actually a fake pair that was set up to be

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>quote stolen, and that Shaw paid someone in the museum

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>to kind of like facilitate this whole thing, you know,

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 2>insurance money and all Shaw totally denies this. There's this

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 2>private investigator, Kip Alexander Kyp.

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 4>Now I'm picturing Kip from Futurama.

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Kip Alexander. This is what he said. Quote. There's a

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of theories surrounding this. You could say there's as

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 2>many as Area fifty one had as far as conspiracies

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 2>or theories. There's a lot of distrust and distaste left

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>in their mouth, for sure. So he's putting it on

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 2>par with Area fifty one.

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 4>He's just speaking directly to like the History Channel special

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 4>right now, completely.

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Completely And what did Shaw say about all this? Don't

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>forget Shaw voice of kit quote, I'm so furious that

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the slippers are gone. It's very frustrating that they haven't

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 2>caught that obsessed, fanatic, selfish bastard who stole them. Shaw

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 2>And there was a theory swirling around this is I love.

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how this theory came to life, but

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I love it, and I feel like I would have

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 2>started it as a rumor if I lived in Grand Rapids, Minnesota.

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people thought that the theft was pulled

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 2>off by teenagers who are just trying to pull a

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 2>plant a prank, and then they panicked and threw the

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 2>slippers away, but not just away away.

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 4>So like ten years, well, wait ten years, that's what

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 4>happened to those baseball uniforms in that other ridiculous cross

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 4>That is true.

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're yeah, I don't know, maybe they're onto something.

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 2>But like, so, ten years after the theft, all these

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 2>crowds gathered along the shoreline of the Tioga Mine Pitt Lake.

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Why what does that have to do with ruby slippers?

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 4>Day? Yah? What does that have? Slippers?

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Lizabeth?

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 2>The good folks were there to watch the Ataska County

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Sheriffs off his don scuba gear and dive in search

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 2>of the ruby slippers the old quarry, so that there

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.439
<v Speaker 2>was a fear that the thieves threw them in the lake,

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.959
<v Speaker 2>and the lake had depths of up to two hundred

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>and twenty five feet. So Morgan White is a filmmaker

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>who's working on a documentary called The Slippers, is one

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>of the people who's totally convinced that the teens did it.

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Quote all signs seem to point to the fact that

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>these kids did it. They're probably sitting at the bottom

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.320
<v Speaker 2>of the mind pit and nobody will ever see them again.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Now, were there specific kids who he said when he

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 4>says these kids.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I couldn't tell. I think they had

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>their eye on a couple kids. But I have news

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 2>for you, Dave. The ruby slippers were not found in

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 2>the Tioga mine pit lake.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh thank god, the ruin totally.

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 2>So this private donor in Arizona finds out, Okay, look

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 2>that the slippers aren't in the lake. We're getting to

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.240
<v Speaker 2>be this is ridiculous. Someone needs to put a stop

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 2>to it. I offer a million dollar for the recovery

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>of the ruby slippers, A million dollars on the barrelhead.

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>This announcement that it went in The Guardian, the New

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 2>York Times, US Weekly, I mean US Weekly, the Magazine

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 2>of Record, Washington Post. So this this donor like originally

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, I'll do phone interviews, you know, that's cool,

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 2>but then at the last minute would cancel the Rhys

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Thomas believes that the one who wrote the book that

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 2>believes that the museum faked that anonymous donor to get

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>publicity because they were getting another Oz item in. So

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 2>they're like, okay, we just got the horse drawn carriage

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>that was apparently it used to be owned by Abraham

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Lincoln before it became a movie prop. So there the

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 2>carriage in the Wizard of Oz apparently was originally owned

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 2>by Abraham Lincoln, which is like totally glossed over in

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 2>all this.

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, for one thing, that's a real historical relic,

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 4>right right. That another thing, yeah, like I'm not trusting

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 4>this museum with anything ever again.

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exact, Yeah, you're gonna roll that in there. It's like, yeah,

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 2>people go out of there. Okay, So the museum, like,

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, Thomas says, I think you faked it because

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 2>you just want people to know about you have this

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 2>cool carriage. The museum told Newsweek that they would provide

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>a notarized letter from the attorney of the anonymous donor

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>if he wished to push, you know, whether or not

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 2>they existed. Everyone gave up? Who cares?

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Who knows?

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Who cares? There's a bakery in Minneapolis called the I

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 2>don't even know how to say this. You know, here's

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the thing. I come across these words and I'm guaranteed

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 2>to say the wrong version of it.

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and I don't care.

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't care.

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>People correct me. I'm like, you know, at the end

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 2>of the day, I don't care. It's w U L

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>L E T wallets, you know, wallets. Anyway, they sold

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 2>cakes that had the ruby slippers on it, and then

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 2>in icing they wrote reward one million dollars, like just

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>to keep the magic alive David's part of the culture.

0:38:55.480 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>The Marriott offered a reward of one million Marriott Rewards.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 4>Points, which is like worth twenty bucks.

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:06.359
<v Speaker 2>It's worth twelve five hundred dollars to anyone who found

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 2>the ruby slippers by August thirty first, a few weeks

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>shy of the tenth anniversary of the theft.

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 4>Now probably like just before they expire, like the expired.

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 2>After they shut the whole rewards program down. An insurance

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 2>company offered a two hundred thousand dollars reward. A board

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.760
<v Speaker 2>member of the museum contributed fifty k to a reward.

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>They say that they got about a thousand calls regarding

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 2>the whereabouts of the ruby slippers. A yard sale in

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Virginia stapled to a restaurant wall in Missouris. Yeah, it

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>could be. There were claims that a radio station in

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.439
<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire was giving them away as a prize. Can't

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>trust New Hampshire. In twenty eleven, law enforcement noticed a

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>pair of ruby slippers in a home in San Francisco

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 2>when they were responding to a home burglary.

0:39:55.320 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 4>No no, I mean, see, it doesn't even seem.

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:04.919
<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing. Like, so the cops go into

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>this house and they're like, oh, cool, ruby slippers, and

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>someone's like, I heard about the theft. You have to

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:09.720
<v Speaker 2>say something.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, those individual officers wanted the rewards.

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 2>They got a search warrant after being told like the

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 2>home but the homeowners like, you know what, those were

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 2>a gift from a past lover, and so they're all right,

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.800
<v Speaker 2>never mind. So but they these things have a serial

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 2>number on them, and it didn't match the missing pair.

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 2>How do they have serial numbers whatever? So how many

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 2>pairs are out there? At one point someone did come

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 2>forward claiming to know about these stolen slippers and how

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 2>they could be returned, but it turned out it was

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 2>just someone trying to, you know, extort the insurance company.

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 2>By two thousand and nine, case was called no Leads,

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>No clues. The cops were like, you know, it's not

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 2>really a priority right now. Four months after the robbery,

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Essex Insurance Company took Shaw, the museum, and the museum

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 2>director to court, claiming the insurance policy was voided by

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the museum because they didn't disclose changes to their security measures.

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Shaw said of this quote the insurance company, they investigated

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.919
<v Speaker 2>me upside down, inside out. They realized I had nothing

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 2>to do with it, and basically the museum knew it too.

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>They were reaching its straws to try and throw the

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 2>guilt away from themselves. So all these years later, the

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 2>parties settled in two thousand and seven. Shaw got eight

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars out of it. He said, quote, I'm

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 2>still furious for so many people. They represented home, love

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 2>and childhood and security. That's what people saw when they

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 2>looked at the slippers. And now they're gone, gone, but

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 2>not forgotten. So the FBI Art Crime Unit and agents

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 2>from Atlanta, Chicago, and Miami, they went undercover because they

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 2>had to lead a strong one. This sting operation was set.

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 2>One of them took them all the way to Minneapolis.

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Let's take a break. When we come back, I'm going

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:52.399
<v Speaker 2>to tell you how this went down.

0:41:53.480 --> 0:42:14.399
<v Speaker 4>Gotta know, all right, Dave.

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 2>When we left off, the FBI was about to solve

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 2>the case of the missing Ruby slippers. I can't wait

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the sting operation in Minneapolis, remember that. Sure, it was

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:27.319
<v Speaker 2>a success. On September fourth, two thousand and nine, the

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 2>FBI announced the stolen Ruby slippers were recovered and taken

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 2>to the Smithsonian for authentication. No suspects were named at

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the time, and officials asked that anyone with any information

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 2>please contact the FBI. So I'm guessing they kind of

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>changed hands the recovered Ruby slippers. They were put on

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 2>display in a clear case for reporters to photograph during

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 2>a press conference. So they like paraded them out.

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 4>It's like when they put all the cash and the

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 4>drugs on the table.

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 2>They fanned out all nicely like this. No, you know what,

0:42:58.680 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>it's too symmetrical.

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 4>Can we get some more cleague lights in here?

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have like ring lights on the pilot cash.

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>So they wheel them out. They were guarded by FBI

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>officials who would tell people, you know, don't get too

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:15.439
<v Speaker 2>close to the glass. This is evidence, you know, hey,

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 2>give it some distance, So click them heels and fast forward.

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Fourteen years. On Tuesday May fifteenth, twenty twenty three, Terry Martin,

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.720
<v Speaker 2>a seventy six year old Minnesotan who lived twelve miles

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 2>south of the Judy Garland Museum in Grand Rapids, Minnesota,

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 2>was indicted by a grand jury for one count of

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 2>theft of a major artwork. Wow, he stole the Ruby

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Slippers nearly eighteen years prior, And well, no it wasn't.

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 2>It was a seventy six year old man, and I

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:48.919
<v Speaker 2>guess he was like in his late fifties at the point.

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 2>So those little tappers they're now worth an estimated three

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:54.959
<v Speaker 2>point five million dollars.

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 4>Do you think being lost made them more valuable?

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh? It has to have. And they're called quote, an

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 2>object of cultural heritage from the care, custody or control

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 2>of a museum. So it's like this is museum quality.

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like I've ever seen antiques road show when someone

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 2>wheels something out and they're like, oh, no, this actually

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 2>has to be in a museum. We can't put a

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>dollar amount on it, Like yeah, yeah, yeah. So the

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>indictment made people wonder if did this seventy six year

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:25.359
<v Speaker 2>old Minnesota did he act alone? Was he hired by

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>organized crime.

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 4>Why does he hate America?

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Why does he hate the culture in America? This is

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 2>what the guy had to say to the Minnesota Star

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Tribune quote, I gotta go on trial. I don't want

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 2>to talk to you. God bless my kind of guy.

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:44.439
<v Speaker 2>So this is a great name. Seaword Darby. Say word,

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Say word again again? S E S E Y W

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:54.359
<v Speaker 2>A R D say word sword, Say word Darby. This

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 2>person is the co host of the podcast No Place

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Like Home. So like, I don't want a turf step

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 2>on another. Respect respect you, respect mad respect quote. There

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 2>was a strong suspicion that there was a quote local

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 2>connection to the crime, someone with knowledge of the museum,

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 2>in fact, that the slippers were on loan there in

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 2>the summer of two thousand and five, and how easy

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 2>they were to steal. What's interesting is that Martin is

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 2>just one piece of the puzzle. Over the thirteen years

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 2>the slippers were missing, it is possible, likely even that

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>they exchanged hands. So that's a deep dive if you're

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 2>interested in No Place Like Home. Rhys Thomas, the author, quote,

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling this is just the tip of

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the iceberg. I don't think a single individual would have

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 2>been have opportunistically grabbed the shoes and then sat on

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>them for thirteen years and then gotten himself involved in

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 2>an extortion case.

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 3>What I just deep.

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>It goes deep, Dave, It goes so much deeper than

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 4>Like, there's no so he really he walks out the

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.280
<v Speaker 4>back door one day at the museum. He's like, oh,

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.320
<v Speaker 4>there's no alarm here, and realizes he could probably just

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 4>walk out with some slippers.

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 2>He'd totally they totally fit him.

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like he goes back or he gets home and

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 4>he's like, honey, slipper fence, slipper fence. He's like looking

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 4>at his Yellow Pages and he realizes there's no such

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 4>thing as a slipper fence.

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, when he got him, and he got him

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 2>for his wife, his wife is like these don't fit.

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Well okay, well just I'll take him back and he

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 2>just shoves him in the closet. So the pair of

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.879
<v Speaker 2>ruby slippers that were stolen are technically not a true pair.

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 2>The left and right shoes are different sizes, and they

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 2>actually are mates to the left and right ruby slippers

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 2>on display at the Smithsonian. It's weird. Do you know,

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>do you know that those are one of the most

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 2>asked about artifacts there. I didn't know that, like where

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 2>are the ruby slippers? Like hey, hey, where are the

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 2>ruby slippers? And over there, sir, like that's the most

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 2>asked question at the Smithsonian. So they made several pairs

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 2>of these for filming. As we know, we many now

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:54.720
<v Speaker 2>believe that the original total was seven, and that includes

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 2>one pair that was originally chewed up by Toto. Some

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I thing I can vouch is an action of a

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 2>car and terrier. Like I have to say that my

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 2>dog passed away at the end of December twenty two

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 2>at the age of fifteen, and I'd had him since

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 2>he was three months old. His name was Elliott, and

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 2>we counted him as one of the internsier. I loved

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.399
<v Speaker 2>bless up Elliott. I liked I liked to blame things

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 2>on him in this show, and like sometimes I get

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 2>wistful thinking about what he chewed up when he was

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 2>a young pup, baseboards, legs of chairs. He once chewed

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:28.399
<v Speaker 2>a hole in a purse that I had to get

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 2>to a cookie in there instead of like going in

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 2>through the top. So anyway, so when I hear about

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Toto chewing up a pair of iconic ruby slippers. I

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of like that, Like puppies remind us that things

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 2>are just things, right, they're impermanent, and then we get

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 2>older and they remind us that they and we are

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 2>impermanent too. So it's all stuff. It's just stuff, And

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that's why I love these kind of crimes. It's just stuff.

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>So they may be like part of the culture and

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>we're three million dollars, but at the end of the day,

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just stuff. So ruby slippers. Only three pairs are

0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 2>said to have survived. Of the seven. The stolen hair

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>was what's known as the quote traveling pair, and they

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 2>were made from a dozen different pieces of material that

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 2>included glass, plastic, gelatine, silk, threading, wood, pulp. Okay, I

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know. So the majority, like the ruby coloring, really

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 2>came from the sequins, but they were like bows on

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 2>them that were red glass beads, and the show's traveling

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 2>pair were actually burgundy, not ruby red, because that would

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>have come out as bright orange in technicolor, and so

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 2>the pair was the one. The stolen ones are the

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 2>ones used for close up shots when Dorothy clicked her

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 2>heels together. Shaw said they were absolutely beautiful, and he

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>would only handle them while wearing white gloves like he

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:44.800
<v Speaker 2>worked at Sephora. It wasn't until after the stolen pairs

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:47.800
<v Speaker 2>were recovered that it was learned that they were mismatched

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 2>twins of the pair at the Smithsonium. So the Ruby

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 2>slippers are still in custody with the authorities, just like

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Funko Batman. They can't be returned to their owner in

0:48:57.320 --> 0:49:03.280
<v Speaker 2>this case Shaw, because Shah got that insurance payout. So yeah, insurance,

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 2>just like Bunco Batman. So the insurance company is the

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 2>legal owner. Shaw is at peace with this quote. There's

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 2>more to my life than a pair of pumps. I

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 2>have no desire to have them again. After years of

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>bringing joy and happiness to so many thousands and thousands

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 2>of people by being able to see them. Now to me,

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 2>they're a nightmare. I'm not going to talk about it anymore.

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of it. They're gone. Frankly, my dear, I

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 2>don't give a dance. Wait now, he yeah, he's amazing.

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Janey Heights the executive director of the Judy Garland Museum.

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 2>There are so many levels, there's like different director levels,

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:41.760
<v Speaker 2>and whatever she wants the recovered ruby slippers to stay

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 2>in federal custody as case evidence, and then hopes that

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 2>they can be like eventually returned to the museum. So

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 2>like slippery way to get around to having them back

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:54.319
<v Speaker 2>at the museum. Quote, it's such an iconic item that

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 2>means so much to so many people. And she said

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 2>that it, you know, represents home and a sense of place. Quote,

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 2>it would be a shame for them to stay in

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 2>a locked case for the rest of time, So let's

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 2>send them to the zero security level. Judy Garland Museum

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 2>and Grand Rapids, Minnesota. She said she can find no

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>connection between Martin and the museum and that everyone at

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 2>the museum is quote a little bit speechless that someone

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 2>was charged. Almost two decades later, Tim Gerring I mentioned

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 2>him Minnesota Monthly. I'm going to let him send us

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 2>off here with some really incredible observations. This is a

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 2>long quote, but it's worth it. Quote Throughout her famously

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 2>up and down career, which ended Elvis style in nineteen

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:39.240
<v Speaker 2>sixty nine an accidental overdose of sleeping pills rigor Mortis

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 2>in the London bathroom. Garland was particularly admired by gay men.

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 2>She was less guarded than most stars, and they were

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 2>drawn to this brassy candor. After all, being unguarded wasn't

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.399
<v Speaker 2>an option for gay men in Garland's day. They could

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:56.440
<v Speaker 2>only long, like Dorothy to live in technicolor. They secretly

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 2>referred to themselves as friends of Dorothy and took solace

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 2>in Garland's apparent sympathy, not least perhaps because two of

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 2>her five husbands turned out to be gay. Quote if

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:09.240
<v Speaker 2>you're afraid to love, if you're afraid to feel emotion,

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 2>you can't know Judy Garland, one fan tells me, aids

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 2>took an outsized bite of Garland's fan base, and as

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>gay culture, once closely associated with the cult of Garland,

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 2>is increasingly assimilated into the mainstream, fewer young gay men

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 2>are picking up the torch. In the world of celebrity memorabilia,

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the failure to recover the Ruby Slippers has conjured no

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.800
<v Speaker 2>little trepidation, A fear that people aren't taking the icon's

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 2>disappearance seriously, fear that the magic is finally wearing off.

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 2>If the Slippers lose their hold on the American imagination,

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 2>what other cultural mementos might we deem disposable. It's an

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 2>American national treasure that's been stolen, and no one gives

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 2>a damn, cries Brian Cummings, a New York appraiser of

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:54.439
<v Speaker 2>celebrity memorabilia. It blows my mind to know that they're

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 2>still out there. Yet in the new status of stolen property,

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the slippers feel more real than they have in years.

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 2>They are mere objects again to be lost or found,

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and perhaps that is for the best. The old movie

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 2>studios we know now were never in the business of

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 2>making magic so much as illusions. Stars like Garland were

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 2>fed pills and cigarettes by their studio bosses and stage

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 2>moms to control their weight. They were products as manufactured

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:21.880
<v Speaker 2>as the props from the stage names to their public

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 2>lives created for them by studio publicity departments. To treasure

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood memorabilia is to value fantasy over this harsh reality,

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 2>to ignore the man behind the curtain.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, brav right, I mean home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's an amazing article, Dave, what's your ridiculous takeaway?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man? Can I first I want to thank the Academy.

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 4>I've been waiting for this moment forever, you know. I

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 4>think it's interesting and that quote really brought it home.

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 4>Like these slippers are far more meaningful to the gay

0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:59.759
<v Speaker 4>community than they could possibly be to quote America rit

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 4>law Arge. In fact, I feel like those two things

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 4>are almost intention because like what Judy Garland means to

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.879
<v Speaker 4>that culture is different than what Judy Garland means, which

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 4>is you know equally yeah yeah yeah, And it really

0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 4>like speaks to a struggle in a way that Judy Garland,

0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 4>this like amazing pop star, movie star and musical star,

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 4>isn't really representative of a struggle for like most of America.

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 4>She's just like the pinnacle of Hollywood magic. And so

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 4>like in that context, I get it. And it's almost

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:34.680
<v Speaker 4>like in that context, things like like this should be

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 4>owned by that community and like instead of being you know,

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:42.239
<v Speaker 4>locked away in a museum somewhere, Like I'm glad they're home,

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 4>and I get why it's a big deal that they

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 4>were missing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I love the idea that tying it in

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 2>with in The Wizard of Oz, where Dorothy gets to

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 2>go to Oz and be brave and create her own

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 2>family and community, and like the thing is to live

0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 2>in technicolor, to like have all these options and brilliance

0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 2>around her, and so reading that really kind of drove

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 2>it home the importance of it, so you know, I

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:08.719
<v Speaker 2>make fun of it. It's not important to me, but

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't make it not important.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I hate I'm just gonna kind of.

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Like, who do I But you know, don't tell anyone I.

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 4>Can get down with the shoes like I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I totally get it. I totally get it.

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