1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, you want experience during your football season, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: we'll buckle up, sweet cheeks. What we've got all the 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: experience in the world. This is I want your flex 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: with Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: down everything you need to set your lineups, from position 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: rankings to starts and sits. The guys help you make 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: those hard decisions. And now let's get your flexod here's 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's a wrap for Week twelve. Hit Mike up 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: at Swollen Dom. You can find me at Dan Byer 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: on Fox and get our executive producer, Ian Roddy at 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: Ian Roddy underscore over three for us this week into 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: including two heartbreakers for us here on the show. Not 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: that you care about our fantasy teams, but we called it, Mike. 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: On our last episode, the odds makers had the over 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: under for the Niners and Panthers at forty and there's. 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: No way we thought it was even gonna get close 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 3: to that, and it didn't. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: On Monday Night, our final game of week twelve, Christian 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: McCaffrey gets in the end zone. But for those of 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: us who had some skin in the game at the 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: end of the week. It went for not because of 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: that low scoring affair. 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get that ISO game, you get excited, you 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 4: have that great opening drive from the forty nine ers 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: and down at bam. 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 4: Like then brock Perdy throws three interceptions. Bryce Young with 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 4: the inexplicable interception. Canalis tried to explain that away, but 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: not like you're playing anybody outside of Tea McMillan and 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 4: ric O'Donnell, Ricodowndle six carries, really six carries in a game. Yeah, 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 4: four catches for thirty six yards. So you got a 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: little savor there to at least get you to a 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: double digit in PPR leagues. Right, if we're talking about 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: desperate modes, McCaffrey finishes with thirty one touches. They're gonna 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: break him in half before this is all said and done. 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: Juwan Jennings while not getting punched and the junk had 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 4: five for forty one in the score. 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, it was. It was one of the like 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: looking at the over under and the trend in. 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: A lot of these these late night affairs has been 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 4: big first halves and they're looking at the over under 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: and getting excited and then nothing happens in the second half. 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 4: We've had a number of those games the last couple 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: of weeks, so I'm like, maybe there's some life. So 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 4: we get a couple of touchdowns in the third court, 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, here we go, Nah, three points in the 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 4: fourth and that's it. Twenty to nine year final and 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 4: and a lot of hand ringing over what the hell 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 4: did I just watch? 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think that the same one could be said 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: for what we saw on Sunday night as well, with 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers and then no show and the Rams dominance 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: and now you got Baker Mayfield's injury. 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: To deal with. 56 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: It's it's the close games in fantasy are are something else. 57 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 2: But it's funny on how it comes down to everybody. 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: In Ian's game on Monday Night, he said, I just 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: needed a little bit more from Christian McCaffrey. 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: I needed just a little bit. 61 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: More from Brock Purty or less when it comes to 62 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: the interceptions, or from Juwan Jennings. I'm sure someone need 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: to just a little bit more from Rico Doddell. But 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: I always tell myself, this is the reason why we 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: play fantasy. Those Monday night games are fun. You look 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: forward to them throughout the day and then sometimes it's 67 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: just heartbreak at the end, that's what happens. 68 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the the unfortunate spot also in week twelve 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: because the extra extra gravi toss depending on your standings, 70 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: depending on tiebreakers and how those have all been set up, 71 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: depending on who you're facing in a particular week. Right, 72 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: there's some some games, even on a fantasy schedule, that 73 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: become you know, might as well be wearing rivalry colors 74 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: as you watch the games that meet a little bit 75 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: more why they're a better, bigger, more obnoxious smack talker 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: maybe in your league or just someone you don't like. 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: But all of that to say, you know that the 78 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: Monday night game, and when we start talking about you know, 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: McCaffrey in particular, it is like, at what point have 80 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: you squeezed too much out of him to wearing down 81 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: the stretch? You don't have it, but they've needed every 82 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: bit of it to get to eight and four. But yeah, 83 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: I mean the two circumstances of you and Ian had 84 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: talked about like that is just the absolute worst, right, 85 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 4: And I think we can all go back and all 86 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 4: of you listening, go back into your league and whether 87 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: it's your matchup or one you were watching chase you're 88 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 4: chasing in the standings, or who's chasing you, and you 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: see those narrow things, you start watching a myriad of 90 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 4: players beyond your own little microcosm of the fantasy world, 91 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: just like no, no, no, no, that five yards is gonna 92 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: screw me? Right, or in cases where it's like there's 93 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: the big decision of whether it was a pass or 94 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: not right, we had that in the Monday night game, 95 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: like is that gonna get overturned? 96 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: Is it? What it account? 97 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: Hey? 98 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 5: Someone tell me was it a catch or like? 99 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: Cause even I was listening to the radio broadcast on 100 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: the way into the studio to do my show with 101 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: Jason Smith, and they were in the broadcast booth arguing 102 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 4: about it. Well, swing out to McCaffrey whether it was 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: behind the line of scritage. 104 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: Yes, happened twice during the game on Monday night. And 105 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: this is we had our long term league where we 106 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: had our own rules, and it took us twenty seven 107 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: years to the SAT. I only just let a site 108 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: just do it and whatever they say goes. But we 109 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: I love to write out a little you know, I 110 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: used to do this, I don't do it anymore. 111 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: A little story. 112 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: You know, at the end, some of them are now 113 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: AI generated, and I shouldn't even say AI generated because 114 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: they've been generated way before AI. But the point being 115 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: is now a stat corrections and the other stuff we've 116 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: got going on. I just wait until the next week 117 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: is underway before I do any of that stuff, because 118 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: we have seen that effect games before. I remember a 119 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, I was I had won a 120 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: game in a league where we had IDP and I 121 00:05:59,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: think it. 122 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: Was like Titans. 123 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: It was a Titans game because AJ Brown was on 124 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: the Titans at the time, and they threw three interceptions 125 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: the Titans did, and AJ Brown was getting points for 126 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: the tackles on the interceptions, and so. 127 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: Like it was like I lost, I won, I lost. 128 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: I ended up winning, But it went back and forth, 129 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: I kid you not, like two or three times on 130 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: whether AJ Brown was actually being credited for a tackle 131 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: on an interception where the defender went out of bounds 132 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: or just gave himself up. But yeah, those are the 133 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: sort of stat correction things that can end up plug, 134 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: you know, changing the fortunes and outcomes of games. 135 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: Well, what's funny is Once upon a time, in a 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 4: prior life, when I was helping administer the fun and 137 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 4: exciting world of the Yahoo Sports games, we'd have those 138 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: where people would set up the IDP. Well, there wouldn't 139 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 4: be the explicit nature of telling you what AJ Brown got. 140 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: There would be an asterisk that would show up, so 141 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: you know we got points for something, not a reception, 142 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: not yage, not a touchdown, but it wouldn't tell you 143 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: the specificity. So we'd get people writing in going, hey, 144 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 4: this guy got an extra like four points that doesn't 145 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: make any sense, like, and then we'd have to do 146 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: exactly that, go back through the play by play as 147 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: best we could, and obviously we get far more information 148 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: in our play by plays and recaps or the ability 149 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: to just go back and watch a game if we 150 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: needed to to try to settle these things, and you'd 151 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: have to write them back like, well, since your league 152 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: is set up for individual defensive players, since AJ Brown 153 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: tackled insert player here hit six P forty two of 154 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: the third, he was awarded the two points for the 155 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: tackle as prescribed by your rule, And we'd have to 156 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: go through and like it was. It was the fun 157 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: research part of the job. Right, Usually it was all right, 158 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: people just can't do basic math. But in this case, like, 159 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: all right, it's got to be a tackle. Go find 160 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: where that tackle happened in the game, and then let 161 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: this poor guy. 162 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: Know, gotta be somewhere in this sixty minutes. 163 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: No exactly. 164 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: And sometimes it wouldn't just be you know, a nebulous Hey, 165 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: this guy intercepted it down at the five. It's like, 166 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: all right, that has to be it, but it doesn't 167 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: say it. Yeah, how do I tell this guy that 168 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: that's the play? Because I couldn't attach a video at 169 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: that point. Right, this is rudimentary part. You know, the 170 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: internet just really starting to take off. Its like you're 171 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: gonna have to trust me, pale, you know that. 172 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 5: Kind of thing. 173 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: That's that's great. 174 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: It would come down to that and people would get mad. 175 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: But that's why we love fantasy football. Let's let's dive 176 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: into week twelve. Let's get to it, because there was 177 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: a lot that happens. I'm gonna I'm gonna start out 178 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: with one of the wackier situations. When you're scrolling box 179 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: scores and you're looking at all the matchups that we 180 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: had in week twelve. I think most of us were 181 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: pretty sure when we saw the leading rusher in that 182 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 2: Colt's Chiefs game, it was gonna be Jonathan Taylor ocntreer 183 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: Mon Frere. Not only did Taylor just have fifty eight 184 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: yards on sixteen carries, Kareem Hunt, he had a buck 185 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: four and a touchdown Mike doing so on thirty carries. 186 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was shocking. Longest run eighteen yards 187 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: for Kareem Hunt average three and a half yards per 188 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: carry is the math is sitting there right in front 189 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: of me. But Kareem Hunt cashing in on week twelve 190 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: was not something that I expected, especially in that showdown 191 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: with the Colts. I know DeForest Buckner's not available right now, 192 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: that's hurting the Colts defense, but they just couldn't get 193 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: off the field and cream Hunt one of those who 194 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: was able to reap the benefits. 195 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: Just the willingness to keep tucking the ball into his gut. Now, 196 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 4: obviously still another week without Pacheco. We'll see if he's 197 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: available for week thirteen as they have that big showdown 198 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: against the Cowboys. You want to talk about intrigue on 199 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: both sides of an equation for a game in a 200 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: nice standalone spot there as part of the Thanksgiving festivities. 201 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 5: But thirty carries, I. 202 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: Mean, we count on one hand the number of guys 203 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 4: that have gotten thirty carries in a game, probably in 204 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 4: the last two years combined. 205 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 5: We just don't see that anymore. So. 206 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: The fact that they went to him early and often, 207 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: and it's a game where Patrick Mahomes threw for three 208 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty two yards like the two just they 209 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 4: blow your mind. Right, you finally got a couple of 210 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: big plays out of Worthy and Rice in the receiving game, 211 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: which the explosives haven't been there. But for Kareem Hunt, 212 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 4: it's we've kept him at arm's length all year and 213 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: rightly so, right because you're looking at a week to 214 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: week basis with that Kansas City run attack that you 215 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: haven't seen a lot, But it was his fourth straight 216 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: week with a touchdown run. So we had him on 217 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: the radar just because of the red zone efficiency. But 218 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: now you're talking about four straight weeks with double digit 219 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 4: touches and thirty thirty. Okay, even if we go back 220 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: to fifteen, he still becomes viable as a back end 221 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: two with the expectation even with a better Dallas run defense. 222 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I still need to see more. 223 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: One game against the Raiders and then a half of 224 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 4: football that was pretty good against the Eagles is not 225 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: a great defense, make. 226 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: No, no, that's for sure. And the Colts, I think 227 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: better days will be ahead. They couldn't get off the field, 228 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: but I think this is also now a bit of 229 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: a recipe and not every team's going to be able 230 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: to do what the Chiefs are going to be able 231 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: to do. 232 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: CJ. 233 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: Strouds expected back for the Texans in Week thirteen, and 234 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: what is a huge divisional game in the AFC South 235 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: for both Indy and Houston. 236 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: But we saw what Houston did. 237 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: Defensively against the Bills on Thursday night and at least 238 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: getting after the quarterback. So I'm seeing I'm curious to 239 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: see on who wakes up for the Colts in that contest, 240 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: because it was Daniel Jones of the red zone making 241 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: a couple of touchdown passes, but Jonathan Taylor largely ineffective 242 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 2: for a game where the Colts just weren't on the 243 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: field much against Kansas City. 244 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they got off for early, right, you saw, Like 245 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: I certainly got the blips of the updates of the 246 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones heroics early and then radio silent. 247 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, radio silent along. 248 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: The way and you know Jonathan Taylor, I mean, that's 249 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: one of the misses. But you know it's on the 250 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: Ronco set, and forget it. It's the anniversary of those 251 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 4: infomercials starting, so I got I gotta you know, get that, 252 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,479 Speaker 4: especially if you get the rotisserie chickens. 253 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 5: Going for the holiday holiday holiday. 254 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, Daniel Jones, you know, you look at him 255 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: for the last couple of weeks, tough go. He's just 256 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: outside of the the qb ones in terms of his 257 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: scoring for week twelve. But against Houston, I mean that 258 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: becomes the what the hell else do I have available? 259 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: No part of that defensive front? 260 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that, Like you got the as 261 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: you said, he got the two touchdown passes and it 262 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: was a moderate day. You know, you know, he didn't 263 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: kill you by any means. But it's sure it is 264 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: a different time and now these games mean something. It's 265 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: it's the first half of the season versus the second 266 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: half of the season. And it's not that the first 267 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: half of the season is a high scoring affair. As 268 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 2: Evan by what Jamier Gibbs did, and we'll get to 269 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: him and the Lions in just a second here, But 270 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: it's it's also just the fact of now teams are 271 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: realizing that they're, you know, playing for more, and I 272 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: just think, I think sometimes games play out differently. Sometimes 273 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: you will get those forty one thirty five shootouts and 274 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: maybe you wouldn't get earlier on in the season. But 275 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: other times you have a Chiefs team that desperately needed 276 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: to win that game and that was their script to 277 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: do so keep the Colts off the field, and they 278 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: were able to figure it out. 279 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 5: Grind it now. 280 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt also adding three catches for twenty six yards 281 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: in that one. But yeah, it'll it'll be curious to watch. 282 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: I mean, that Indie game this next week. I mean, 283 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: that's just crazy because now Houston they've won those games 284 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: with Davis Mills. Has it been great and efficient? No, 285 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 4: but it puts them back in. So now we start 286 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 4: looking at the jockeying for the division with Jacksonville playing 287 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: Tennessee as well, So we do the presumptive, all right, 288 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 4: Jackieville is gonna win. How does this you know matter, 289 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 4: you know for the division, but certainly you know divisional 290 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 4: matchups are a weird beast in and of themselves. 291 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: We'll get So what stood out to Mike in week 292 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: thirteen and or a week twelve as well, and what 293 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: stood out to Ian in this past week's action. 294 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: Of course, Week thirteen. 295 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: Starts with the tripleheader on Thursday to have into some 296 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: ramifications for that, and of course we have the Black 297 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: Friday Game with Mike's Bears taking on the Eagles coming 298 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: up on Friday. But more week twelve recap next here, 299 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: and I want your flex all right, we have the 300 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: Eagles blowing a twenty one nothing lead, or if you're 301 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: a Cowboys fan, you could say Cowboys coming back from 302 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: that twenty one nothing deficit with twenty four un answered 303 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: Giants alliance. 304 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: We're talking about that game. 305 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: As well, so much in Week twelve, Mike, what stands 306 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: out for you from what the week that we just. 307 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: Had absolute chaos all across the board, some as I 308 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: use the term strange bedfellows. I thought Jamis was a 309 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: nice ninja play. I didn't expect them to catch a 310 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: touchdown pass nor lead all quarterbacks with thirty two points. 311 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: Cam Ward was a top five guy for a week. So, 312 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: like you know, the old you know, any given Sunday, 313 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: kind of the mantra kind of really rang true. Trevor 314 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: Lawrence was a top seven quarterback. Nobody's banking on that. 315 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: Whereas some of our usual suspects. We already talked about 316 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor and the struggles that he had, a part 317 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: of it not being on the field with all those 318 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt touches. But you know, Emmanuel Wilson steps in 319 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: for the injured Josh Jacobs. He's the second leading rusher 320 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 4: of the day. Again, we'll take the small victory lap 321 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: off the Ninja, but it had a giant question mark 322 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: was he actually going to get a workload? Derrick Henry 323 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: was number four. I don't trust Derrick Henry. I don't 324 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: trust anything going on in Baltimore right now. They're winning, 325 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: but for fantasy purposes, they inspire no confidence whatsoever. Lamar 326 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: Jackson seems like he's running in about fifty to sixty 327 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: percent of his normal self over the last four weeks 328 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: since his return, he's got a total of seventy two 329 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: rushing yards like twenty five attempts. 330 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you could see it. 331 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: And again, Ian under suspect to your jets. 332 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 6: But disrespect away. 333 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: Like I do wonder like if because there were runs 334 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: where you could tell that Lamar did not, you know, 335 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: go down on the throttle, like he just he was 336 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: not going to take off. 337 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know if he was playing safe. I 338 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: don't know if he was. 339 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: Because they're playing the Jets the week prior it was 340 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: the game against the Browns, I don't know if, like 341 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: those are the reasons why he's doing that. And you know, figuring, well, 342 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: we got a game with the Steelers coming up in 343 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, you got the Patriots on our schedule. 344 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: Those are the games are got to make sure I'm healthy. 345 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: But you're right, there is a different Lamar when he's 346 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: running the football. 347 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: You can see it. 348 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 6: There were there were some plays in that game where 349 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 6: they where the Ravens played the Jets that it was 350 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 6: like because the Jets defense was able to make those plays, 351 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 6: that was an ind cater in and of itself that 352 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 6: Lamar isn't isn't himself right now, there were some tackles 353 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 6: they were able to make that if Lamar were himself, 354 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 6: it just wouldn't have happened. 355 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you look at their schedule, right, so they play 356 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: Cincinnati Thanksgiving night, and they have another one with them 357 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 4: no Hendrickson, So the one defender you would fear chasing 358 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 4: him down in there. Two against Pittsburgh New England, as 359 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 4: you said, Dan, and then you got Green Bay. Those 360 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 4: are your six games remaining. But right now, back to 361 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: back weeks without a score, right now, the hand ringing, 362 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: here's an MVP. It's like and it's like, all right, 363 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: he's back and healthy, but I have a voted no confidence, 364 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: like I. 365 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 5: Can't start him. 366 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, but eaven against the Bengals what looks 367 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: like the cherry of matchups, ISO game, Thanksgiving trip to 368 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: fan induced coma, eating my fifth piece of pie. I 369 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 4: don't want to be throwing up because I'm getting a 370 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: miserable effort because he can't run. 371 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, what scares me is we've seen some Angles Ravens 372 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: games in the past be nice, fun shootouts. This doesn't 373 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: behoove Baltimore to get into a shootout. Plus, I don't 374 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: even know if Burl's gonna be any good to be honest, 375 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: I mean I say that fliple, yeah, only just because 376 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: of rust. Now you're putting them in, what are we 377 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: going to get? I don't think you're gonna see t 378 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: Higgins on Thursday night because of the concussion that he suffered. 379 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I just yeah, Lamar just didn't look 380 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: still is not looking the same. And I don't know 381 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: if it's if it's something more than him just being 382 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: apprehensive because of this or what. 383 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: But there is a difference for sure. 384 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: Go back through the running backs for some other Week 385 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 4: twelve again the position that is so in flux, right, 386 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 4: which is why if you have one of those bell cows. 387 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: We've talked a lot about McCaffrey, and you have one 388 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: of those guys that you can bank on those fifteen 389 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: to twenty touches, you just cherish them because you look 390 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 4: at the back end of those scores for rb ones 391 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: in week twelve, right half point PPR leagues, Kareem Hunt 392 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: that we talked about he was eight. We've seen more 393 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 4: of Travis etn feeling more comfortable and confident in what 394 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: they're doing run wise. James Cook was there great, but 395 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: we finally had an Ashton genty sighting wrong by me. 396 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 4: We talk about Wilson Gibbs with that monster performance, but 397 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: the back end of the rb Ones Judkins had the 398 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 4: two scores taking care of business there. Kenneth Gainwell had 399 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 4: a big game against the Bears. Again, this goes back 400 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: to the Bears will give you a lot of yards. 401 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: They're gonna be opportunistics defensively even when they don't have 402 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: six starters. Dylan Samson with that swing pass that put 403 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: him into the top twelve, and then Tyrone Tracy was twelve. 404 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 4: So you're looking at a lot of guys that are 405 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 4: either undrafted that you picked up on waivers, or they've 406 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 4: been languishing on your bench waiting for that opportunity. 407 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 5: Week twelve was it. 408 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: On Tracy gameplay. But now I'm starting to think that 409 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: these are what Giants games are going to look like. 410 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: I hate to say, Well, Jameis says the quarterback things 411 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: have opened up. I mean it really has, and and 412 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: the Lions needed every bit of Jumior Gibbs and his 413 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: fifty five points and whatever he put up in various 414 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: leagues to be able to even have a chance to 415 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: win that game. 416 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: You know what's funny, like with the alerts that I 417 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 4: get right, it's opponent like, so I faced him in 418 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: a league and it kept bleeping. I'm like, this can't 419 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 4: be right. Is a running back like what they don't 420 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 4: have the ball that much, Like what's going on here? 421 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 4: And then you look at the final you know, final updates. Again, 422 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: I was at a soccer game, so I eventually got 423 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: to go back and watch him, Like boy, I really 424 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 4: enjoy watching him play, and it just scares me that 425 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: for all that time he. 426 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 5: Was boxed up. 427 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: And I love David Montgomery, but I mean, Gibbs is 428 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 4: just that guy on a whole other level. 429 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: And with the Laporta injury. Mm hm, this is this 430 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: has changed things. 431 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: That gets golf is either getting the ball to Amarra 432 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 2: or he is getting the ball to Jamiir Gibbs. Like 433 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: there is no more everybody feasts. I mean, if Jamison 434 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: Williams can make some plays, great, but he didn't have 435 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: a catch on on Sunday, so that is of concern. 436 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 2: And when guys are when your options are dwindling, it's 437 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: not that. 438 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: Next man up. Four moves to three and five moves 439 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: to four. 440 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: Now I think it's so much just focusing on all right, 441 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: I gotta find Amanra, I gotta we gotta get Jamir 442 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: Gibbs the football, and this is who we're gonna ride. 443 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: And it's actually what they did when Montgomery got hurt 444 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: at the end of last year, and why Gibbs was 445 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: able to to strive. I don't know if that's a 446 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: winning fashion for the Lions, but that's the way that 447 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: they have to play right now. 448 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, certainly down the stretch, you've got a 449 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: lot of indoor games, which bodes well. We all know 450 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: the legend that is Jared Goff there for Ama Rossain 451 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: Brown a big game. He's been plagued by drops throughout 452 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 4: the year. Certainly, we've got a bunch of Lions fans 453 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: and writers that we know that lament that at times 454 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 4: and like just the law of averages, you throw a 455 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 4: ball to a guy one hundred times, you get a 456 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 4: drop one. But all of that say, he was third 457 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: and half PPR leagues this week. But yeah, the Laporta 458 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: injury really does shed a light on you know what, 459 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: just get the ball into the two best guys and 460 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: let him try to scheme it up to get him 461 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: some yak. 462 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: And it wasn't like Laporta was the thea porter that 463 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: we knew from a season or two ago. But still 464 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: like it's just another option that kind of ends up 465 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: going by the wayside. Ian what stood out for you 466 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: in Week twelve. 467 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, I think I think we'd be remiss if 468 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 6: we didn't mention schud Or Sanders and the start to 469 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 6: his you know, starting career that he's had. 470 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 5: It was the Raiders. 471 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 6: You know, plenty of people in our industry have have 472 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 6: pointed out, and rightfully so it was the Raiders, and 473 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 6: that's not you know, it makes his performance a little 474 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 6: less impressive, and it's not like his performance in a 475 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 6: vacuum on its own with some incredible, you know, lights 476 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 6: out performance, But it's just so much better than what 477 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 6: Dylan Gabriel was to me. This just opens up every 478 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 6: other Browns fantasy option, like not only the receivers you 479 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 6: know in Djoku and Judy who obviously had that terrible fumble, 480 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 6: but the running backs too, like Judkins had a huge 481 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 6: game and that's just a result of them being in 482 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 6: scoring position more often, and Schador clearly gives them way 483 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 6: more of a chance to move the ball. So we'll 484 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 6: see how he does against the defense that's non Raiders, 485 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 6: but again, like you play the team in front of you, 486 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 6: they're still an NFL defense, and he looked like he 487 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 6: belonged to He looked better than a fifth round pick, right, 488 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 6: So that's what I saw. 489 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he did, especially when you look at 490 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: the names of some of the quarterbacks that have started. 491 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: That was my big thing on Sunday. 492 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: Of about twelve quarterbacks that ended up starting games from 493 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: in their rookie season that were fifth round or worse 494 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: over the last ten seasons. And we're talking Clayton Tune, 495 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: We're talking Skyler Thompson. Now brock Perty was one of 496 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: those guys. Jaron Hall a couple of years ago with 497 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 2: the Vikings as the Nathan net pops up. Gardner Minshew 498 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: was on that list. And you know what else is 499 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 2: on the list, Nathan Peterman remember him from. 500 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: The five interception game and a half year. 501 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So it could have been that for Shador 502 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 2: and it wasn't. What I do think was interesting, and 503 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: I wonder if it will change in Week thirteen against 504 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. But Judkins got it both of 505 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: his touchdowns via the wildcat. It took Shador completely off 506 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: the field in that scenario. So I don't know if 507 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: this is going to be something going forward, if this 508 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: was a different look, if this was a we don't 509 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: trust Shador. But I am curious to see what the 510 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: Browns do in those certain goal to goal situations moving forward, 511 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: because it did seem to work. I mean, Judkins got 512 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: in the end zone both times, but it's against again, 513 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: it's against the Raiders, and maybe different against San Francisco. 514 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: But Niner's not coming in on a short week, going 515 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: on the road again, having to travel west or east. 516 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, so there could be more opportunities, uh for 517 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: that for that run game, and even to Ian's point, 518 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: maybe even more so in the passing game if. 519 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 3: You need to. 520 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 6: And to be clear, I'm not saying I would, you know, 521 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 6: even start Shoudoor Sanders in fantasy. 522 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 5: It's more just no. But you're saying Harold result exactly. 523 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 6: Guys like Harold Fanon are just gonna have way more 524 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 6: opportunities because there's a guy who can actually get them 525 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 6: the ball. 526 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 5: No, that's thing being able to work down field. 527 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: Like in terms of advance reference from Pro football Reference 528 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: dot Com, Dylan Gabriel average yards air yards per pass 529 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: attempt five point nine. Not surprising down there with Kyler 530 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: Murray and Aaron Rodgers just ahead of them. Jared Goff, 531 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: take that for what it is, uh for Shoudoor Sanders 532 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: limited limited space here, but you're looking at eight point four. 533 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: That puts him at eighth right. And and that's the 534 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: one thing that we saw when he came in with 535 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: the four for sixteen. He's gonna put the ball up right, 536 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: and he's not shy about it. Like his postgame comments 537 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: got everybody all and it's hissy. It's like, whatever, the 538 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: guy got to start a game. He gotta win. He 539 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 4: gets to say nanny nanny booboo and move on, right. 540 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's it. You can like it or not. 541 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: You know, he thanks God, he thanks his family, whatever. Wow, 542 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 4: what a terrible guy. But it's when you get down 543 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: to it. Jerry Judy Fannin, who was one of the 544 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: few targets that Dylan Gabriel could get the ball to 545 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: because of that short and intermediate style that he had. 546 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 4: That's great, but you know, Shador's not gonna shy away 547 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: from putting the ball down. Does that mean that some 548 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 4: turnovers are gonna come? Absolutely? And was he scattershot? 549 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: Sure? First start eleven of twenty one, was it world beating? 550 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: No? 551 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 4: A lot of the yards come on the two, like 552 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: the one reception, the fifty nine yarder. I mean that 553 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 4: was a great throw right and rolling to your right. 554 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: I mean cannon for an r but for a stumbling, 555 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: bumbling catch he goes into the end zone. And we're 556 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 4: talking about that in a whole other way, right. And 557 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: then obviously you get the Sampson swing pass that it 558 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: counts for sixty six. You don't have to like it, 559 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 4: but it still counts as a sixty six yards. 560 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 6: The best was like ESPN PR or something like tweeting 561 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 6: out the videos saying it's the longest completion by a 562 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 6: rookie all season, and just knowing that that was complete 563 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 6: rage paid. 564 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: The other great thing about the Dylan Samson play in 565 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: the line is that Dylan Samson's long catch came for 566 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: sixty six yards. He had fifty nine total receiving yards, 567 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: So the other one lost seven yards. Oh no, two 568 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: catches for fifty nine yards and a touchdown and the 569 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: long was sixty six. 570 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 4: Well, on that other reception, you just still got the 571 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 4: point three in a pp are. But all of that 572 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 4: to say it, it does open things up, and it 573 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 4: gives us another guy to talk about, right, are we 574 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 4: gonna see great heights? No? 575 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 5: I don't think so. 576 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 4: But it's interesting and it's the first win by a 577 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: Brown's quarterback and his debut. 578 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 5: Did you see the answer to that one? 579 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 3: Dan Yeah, Zire Eric. 580 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 5: Zion Ericxire in nineteen ninety. 581 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: Five, former Georgia Bulldog. 582 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: The other thing with like the Browns, like if you 583 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: were to pick up Isaiah bond if you're like really 584 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: hurting for wide receivers and maybe you are, maybe you 585 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: got Terry McLaurin or Marvin Harrison or T Higgins or 586 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: one of those guys. You do have a game with 587 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: the Titans coming up in a couple of weeks. Plus 588 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: teams that do have these young quarterbacks will take shots 589 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: down the field, so you'll see more maybe of those 590 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: plays to Isaiah Bond. 591 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: Well and those guys they've been working with all season, right, 592 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 4: we've yeah, we've always talked about that, right ye. Elevated 593 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: guy from the second team, whoever he's been running practice 594 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: reps with, probably gonna see a little more run. 595 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Any thoughts on JJ McCarthy now on concussion protocol 596 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: for the Vikings, that's and that's that's tough man. 597 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: And like right now that that shot of Justin Jefferson 598 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: walking off the field and he's saying all the right 599 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: things and he's being a good teammate. It is tough. 600 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: I mean I mentioned to you guys, I think it 601 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: was off air. Was the Jordan Addison big goose egg, right, 602 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: because in my matchup I got absolutely drummed because a 603 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 4: couple of huge uh the one I really care about, 604 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: you know, how you line up. It's like it was 605 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: on his side, I'm on Ross Saint Brown on my side, 606 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: Jordan Addison like yeah, so yeah, you're you're just watching 607 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: a disaster from an offensive standpoint, right, and it this 608 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 4: week it gets magnified because here's Sam Darnold and the 609 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: Seahawks waiting on you. 610 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it very much could be the Max Brosmer show. 611 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 6: Cathy's not even playing, so it's just gonna look yeah. 612 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: Well that's yeah, that's the rock. They They may they 613 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: may need to just punt on the season, bring a 614 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: little bit more talent in, but you got to figure 615 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: out a way to fix that in the off season. 616 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: Every By the way, Ian, just so you know, Vikings 617 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: fans now think that they can maybe try to swing 618 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: a deal to get Joe Burrow. 619 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 5: So it's not just the Jets. 620 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: Vikings fans are now in on it, because why wouldn't 621 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: you reunite Joe Burrow and Justin Jefferson right from the 622 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: LSU days. 623 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: Let's get him. 624 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 6: I'd much rather go to Minnesota than than the Jets. 625 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 6: I still don't think he moves. 626 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: But no, I don't. I don't think so either. 627 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 5: But postantial for chaos is good for all of us. 628 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, yeah, keeps the conversation going. That's always 629 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: a good thing. We will as well. After our time out, 630 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: Mike's gonna give you some waiver wire picks. Plus we 631 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 2: all give our report cards for how we did in 632 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: week twelve. 633 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 3: That's all coming up next right here on. I want 634 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: your flex. 635 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: Mike's got some waiver wire picks coming up for week 636 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: thirteen in just a little bit. 637 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: But let's get to the report cards. Mike. We will 638 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: start with you hand your week twelve. 639 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: Look, well, we got a couple of hits in the 640 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 4: quarterback Stafford and Hurts got us there. 641 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 5: Mahomes was still a QB one. I'll take the w there. 642 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 4: I had Gibbs and McCaffrey flipped, but we'll take those wins. 643 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 4: And we did have Derrick Henry in the top five. 644 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 4: I was questioning myself after we record, I go, why 645 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: did I do that? And it worked for once? Hey, 646 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: the blind squirrel theory. I'm on Ross, Saint Brown, JSN 647 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 4: wins and the wide receiver. Otherwise, I mean Drake May, 648 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: Jared Goff, Traveon Henderson, Saquon Barkley. I mean, yes, you 649 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: got the receptions, but the running it really two one zero, 650 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: Like it looked like the old Barry Sanders where you're like, 651 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 4: all right, I'm gonna get the fifty five and a touchdown. 652 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 5: Aren't it? 653 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 4: Nah? I got none of that. Shot in a beer, 654 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: shot in a beer. Jonathan Taylor gave us nothing, so 655 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: fails there. T Higgins failed to finish the game. Hopefully 656 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: he's okay, but we had him as a top play. 657 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: Rashi Rice had ance game, so we'll take a half. 658 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 5: A victory there. Puka Nakua and a Rare. 659 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 4: I mean, he got seven for ninety seven, but that's 660 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 4: not what we come to expect. Where's more, if you're 661 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: going to score that many points in the first half, 662 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: why do you give me nothing? 663 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 5: All right? 664 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 4: Brissett, Caleb were wins Quin, Shawn Judkins. As you mentioned 665 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 4: with the Wildcat got us there on the cold Soars. 666 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 4: I feel like I've got him in a really thick 667 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 4: inkpen at this point when you're talking about Justin Jefferson, 668 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: Christian Watson didn't give us much Roma doonesay, despite the 669 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 4: Bears heroics, he didn't give us much fantasy wise, Jamis 670 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: was a ninja and Wilson was a ninja. Gain Well, 671 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson massive targets once again and won. Dale Robinson 672 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: hit for us on the downside, Lamar as a hot play. 673 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 4: Jean was outside of the rb ones Jamison Williams big 674 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: fat zero. I'm stealing that from our buddy Monci Belanyos, 675 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: Big fat zero. That's how she describes players on her 676 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 4: fantasy team that let her down. I had Genty on 677 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: the cold Soores got good for him, had a big 678 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: day a dak after just a miserable start to things, 679 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 4: ends up with a banner day, so he gets it done. 680 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 4: So it makes me look stupid, so we take that. 681 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 4: And then I had Shadour as a ninja. So while 682 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 4: he gave us the headlines, he gave us nothing else. 683 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: Oh that's all right, at least they had some fun. 684 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 5: No, that's it. 685 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Ian Hunter streaming defenses work in Week. 686 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 5: Twelve, pretty solid week. 687 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 6: We'll go worst to best, So start with the Raiders. 688 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 6: They got just seven fantasy points if he started them. 689 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 6: They all allowed twenty four points to the Browns, but 690 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 6: they did picture door off once. They got a fumble, 691 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 6: recovery and a sack, so that was good for seven points. 692 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 6: And then the New Orleans Saints the other two that 693 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 6: I gave you with the Saints and the Falcons. 694 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: Both on the Saints game All Black weekend. 695 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 6: Yeah exactly, So the Saints got to eleven fantasy points. 696 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 6: They also allowed twenty four points to the Falcons, but 697 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 6: they got a pick six forty nine yard pick six. 698 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 6: Might I add on Kirk Cousins huge, and then they 699 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 6: sacked him three times as well, so that was good 700 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 6: for eleven fantasy points. And then the Falcons. They only 701 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 6: allowed four points to the Saints, so that was extremely 702 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 6: ideal for fantasy purposes. They got an interception on top 703 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 6: of that, recovered a fumble, and they got to Kirk 704 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 6: five times, or they got to Tyler Schuck five times. 705 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, so pretty good week for fantasy defenses. So yeah, uh, 706 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 6: seven eleven and fifteen points. 707 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: All right, That's that's all we can ask. Especially with 708 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: those teams. 709 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: There was a little bit to be desired, but sometimes 710 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: you just have to have to roll with it. 711 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 3: And Ian cashed in. 712 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, zilmed the Points of Paloza. Hit guys, yeah, 713 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 2: Giants and Lions, so much so that I replayed this 714 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: on Sunday to Ian, I said, I got a double 715 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 2: check to make sure, and I'm like, yes, all right, 716 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: we did hit it. And survivor pick told you to 717 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: take the Seahawks of the games that had the three 718 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 2: big spreads. If you took the Lions, you sweated it out, 719 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: but you gotta win. Kudos to you, But we were 720 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: safe on the Seahawks. The coin flip that I told 721 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: you to take the Browns, I kind of wish I 722 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: would have done it myself in my pool, but they 723 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 2: came through big time. So if you took Cleveland, congratulations, 724 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: you were probably one of the few. So at least 725 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: some high marks on the report card for me for 726 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: Week twelve, despite the tough loss in Fantasy during the week. 727 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 5: Good call on the Browns, Dan, That's that's a good week. 728 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a couple of Week thirteen that we'll 729 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: get to in our next episode that I think could 730 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: be very intriguing. It's just on what side you're going 731 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: to be on, so sha'll see. 732 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an interesting slate for sure. And finally, a 733 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 4: week with no buys, no international games. For that you 734 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 4: have to monitor early on and get those lineup sets. 735 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 4: And so this is where we get into the injury 736 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 4: report for week thirteen. It is probably the most important 737 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 4: week of the year in trying to parse out information. 738 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there will be buyes after Week fourteen is 739 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: the last week of byes. But yes, Mike says, there's 740 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: nobody on by coming up in week thirteen. All right, 741 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: With that being said, we don't have to worry about 742 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 2: guys being on by Mike, but we do have to 743 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: worry about injuries and other things. 744 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 3: Who do we look for on the waiver wire this week? 745 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 4: Well, we got another top seven effort out of Jacoby 746 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 4: Brissett in week twelve. He goes up against the Buccaneers, 747 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 4: so let's go, let's roll him up again. He's still 748 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 4: available in nearly forty percent of leagues based on looking 749 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 4: at the Yahoo default leagues to a tongue of Ilo 750 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 4: going up against the new Orleans Saints owned in only 751 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 4: seventeen percent of league's opportunity. They played well coming out 752 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 4: of their bye week. Maybe an opportunity to push Trevor 753 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 4: Lawrence going up against Tennessee. Look you arrive the lightning 754 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 4: with Trevor Lawrence. We've talked about this, Dan, you and 755 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 4: I I think I've flipped a decade at this point, 756 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: it seems talking about Trevor Lawrence. But an opportunity here. 757 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 4: We'll keep an eye on what goes on with the Giants, 758 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 4: whether Jackson Dart gets activated. Right that's the Monday night 759 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 4: game against New England, because if not, Al jamis all 760 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 4: the time, baby. 761 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 5: If not, maybe you could play him as a tight end. 762 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. 763 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 4: And then Sam Darnold going up against Minnesota. They're ten 764 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 4: and a half point favorites as I look at this 765 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 4: here late on a Monday night, So an opportunity knocks there. 766 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 4: Quarterback position done gain Well fifty four percent owned Monong Guy, 767 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 4: fifty six percent owned Trey Benson on the comeback there 768 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 4: in Arizona. That's a stash. See what his status is. 769 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 4: Eventually he's going to be back to take up that 770 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 4: run game. But he's available, in nearly forty percent of leagues, 771 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 4: and then Emmanuel Wilson with the short week, with that 772 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 4: game against Detroit looming, the potential is that Josh Jacobs 773 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 4: may miss another We'll have to see. We'll have more 774 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 4: on our midweek episode, but for defensive purposes and based 775 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: on proof of concept with what he did this past week, 776 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 4: he should be rostered. Go find him still available in 777 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 4: about thirty five percent of leagues. And then we get 778 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 4: to the wide receivers. 779 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 5: We got our guy. 780 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 4: DK We've talked about him before, Shamir d K fourteen 781 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 4: percent on Now you're probably not getting the punt returns. Sorry, 782 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: that's not helping you out, but you're looking at a 783 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 4: guy who if cam Ward's finding anybody's finding him, and 784 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 4: against the Jacksonville secondary for week thirteen, potential for you 785 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 4: there Wandeale Robinson still available in about twenty five percent 786 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 4: of leagues. His target count week to week has just 787 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 4: been through the roof. You look at Christian Watson. Do 788 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 4: I trust the Packers pass game week to week? No, 789 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 4: But we're trying to find shares, trying to find some 790 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 4: level of consistency going up against Detroit. Potentially an opportunist 791 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 4: no t Higgins as we've talked about, which means Yoshavash 792 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 4: should be able to find his way. He's only owned 793 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 4: in about twenty to twenty five percent of leagues depending 794 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 4: on where you're looking. Seven target sixty one yards in 795 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 4: that one, and then Parker Washington only forty percent owned, 796 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 4: So getting a little bit deep, and then we could 797 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 4: start playing in the tight end position as the week 798 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 4: goes on. 799 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 2: All right, there you are your waiver wire pickups four 800 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: Week thirteen. I love the love the matchups. I love 801 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: the game in Detroit should be a good one. Chiefs 802 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 2: Cowboys is going to just shatter records for viewing. It's 803 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: going to be the most watched game of the season. 804 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 2: That Cowboys game usually is. But now with this matchup 805 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: should be intriguing. And yeah, Bengals and Ravens are the 806 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: Sunday Night test with Joe Burrow's return, I mean, Chris 807 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: Collinsworth is not gonna be there. I mean he's gonna 808 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 2: miss a Bengals game. It's gonna be Jason Garrett in 809 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 2: the boothon on Thursday night. 810 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 3: Wow. 811 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 5: How about that? 812 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Interesting? 813 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so those four games before we get 814 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 4: to the weekend are just insane. Yeah, right in Chicago 815 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 4: Philly basically for the top of the NFC, alongside the 816 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 4: Rams right now. I mean, it's just I don't know, 817 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 4: it's nuts. 818 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, when it comes to Survivor pools, 819 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: we've given advanced picks before. There's no reason to pick 820 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 2: anybody in the first four games of the week, so 821 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 2: you can hold off the Sunday Sundays where you're gonna 822 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: want to find more fertile ground. Because I'm not quite 823 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 2: sure what we're gonna get on Thanksgiving her on Black Friday. 824 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 5: No, I know, I'm gonna eat a lot. 825 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna probably pass out and try to sleep, but 826 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 4: probably see a movie or two with the girls somewhere 827 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 4: along the way, watch some soccer. But those four games 828 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 4: are all heavyweight battles, like so much meaning for each 829 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 4: of those in Baltimore ahead in the we may not 830 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 4: like the North, but if Joe Burrow plays and plays 831 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,439 Speaker 4: anything like we've seen Joe Burrow, all of a sudden 832 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 4: chaos ensues. Kansas City, Dallas may just break the internet. Yeah, 833 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 4: all right, right, and then Green Bay Detroit. There's two 834 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 4: teams we're going into in the week thirteen. I can't 835 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 4: tell you definitively how much I love or hate those 836 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 4: Like I don't know what I'm getting week to week. 837 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 5: So it's great. And then the Bears drive me nuts. 838 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 5: So winning football but still maddening. 839 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 4: Dan. 840 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, what else is new? But 841 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: just the winning recording that changed, chalk up the the WS, 842 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: the I just I want to just leave the podcast 843 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 2: with this point because I don't know if it dawned 844 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 2: on people as much. But with Joe Burrow coming back 845 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 2: and I said this, we're in for Doug on Monday 846 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: on Monday Show, do people realize that the Bengals, like 847 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: it was. 848 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 3: Worst case scenario for them. 849 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 2: Practically the only game they've won since Burrow was out 850 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 2: was that Thursday night game against the Steelers that we 851 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 2: all watched. And so now Burrow is coming back and 852 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 2: they're three games back, and we feel like the Bengals 853 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: like kind of survived, like they still have a chance, 854 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 2: which I don't think they do really. The Steelers and 855 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: Ravens haven't played each other, but it basically almost wouldn't 856 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 2: have mattered, Like Joe Flacco won them that one game 857 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 2: that was the only game that they've won since Burrow 858 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 2: went out in that game against Jacksonville that they ended 859 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 2: up winning when Jake Browning took over. But I mean 860 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: they could get anything right during that stretch. 861 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 4: No, not at all. And it's still just that curiosity 862 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 4: even coming back right right, Like part of me is, 863 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 4: all right, you're getting paid a lot of money, you're 864 00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 4: a professional. You can play spoiler and show that you 865 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 4: can get back on the field because the injury bug injury, 866 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 4: you know, riddled, you know, Tag is starting to really 867 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 4: find him. Like I still remember walking out of the 868 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 4: super Bowl against the Rams and everybody, ah, we got. 869 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 5: It for a decoun I'm like, not so fast. That's 870 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 5: not the way this works. 871 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 4: You're not supposed to be happy just because you got 872 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 4: a trip to southern California and got to watch your 873 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 4: team in a super Bowl. You should be pissed should 874 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 4: have won that game. But it's and now we're watching 875 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 4: it years later, just we as football fans fantasy owners 876 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 4: just want to see this guy on the field. But 877 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 4: now that he's coming back and Week thirteen him, part 878 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 4: of me is like. 879 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 2: Why, yeah, it's he needed to play last week honestly, 880 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: like he really did. 881 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 3: He needed to play against the Patriots on Sunday. 882 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 6: And it's not like scoring points has been the issue 883 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 6: for them. It's been the defense. Like Joe Flacco, they 884 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 6: still mad. There were a few games they managed to 885 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 6: put up like thirty eight points. Still, so how much 886 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 6: was Burrow gonna help still lose? 887 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hopefully you won't throw a pick six that 888 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 2: ended up costing ultimately the Bengals that game against the Patriots. 889 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 2: There are other awards to play along with, but Chase 890 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: Brown's been great at least during that stretch. So you 891 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: got that Cincinnati and that's it for us. We're going 892 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 2: to be back with our rankings episode later in this 893 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving week, but that's what we're gonna give you. 894 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 3: We've talked about it. We're gonna just have two episodes 895 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 3: this week. 896 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: But we are always thankful that you continue to listen 897 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 2: to the podcast and support it, and we always love 898 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 2: to hear from you guys on social media. You can 899 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 2: find Mike at Swollen Dome, get Ian at Ian Roddy Underscore, 900 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: and you can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. 901 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 2: So for Ian Roddy and Mike Harmen, Happy Thanksgiving to 902 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 2: you guys. I'm Dan Bayer and we'll talk to you 903 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 2: next time right here, and I want your flags