1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Also media. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: This is it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis and 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: joined with Robert Evans and Sophie Lichterman or Day one 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: of the official RNC, the Republican National Convention. Robert, Sophie, 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: how's your day? Ben? 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: Well, I'm tired. 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: It was a long day. 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: It was very red, Yeah, a lot of red. It 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: was very loud. The drinks were very expensive. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Sony free drinks yesterday and not today. 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: No, not once you're in the convention center. I don't know. 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: We were trapped in a room with a lot of 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: people who had were either used car salesman or spiritually 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: were used car salesman. 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Also a lot of people who want to kill me specifically. 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: Yes, we'll talk about this that more later. Yeah, today, 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: just structurally, what happened is, you know, it was a 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: series of speeches. So you had first off, the big 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: floor boat, right, So we got to watch all of 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: the different had their delegates and they have to form 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: even though everyone knows what's happening, they have to like 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: formally follow Robert's rules of order or whatever and confirm 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: that Trump is the nominee. And then they announce and 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: confirm the VP, who you all know by now is 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: jd Vance. We'll talk I might as well talk a 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: little bit about him now. Jd Vance is a guy 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 3: who in the wake of Trump's initial victory. He's a 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: dude who came from Appalachia sort of part time, went 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: to an Ivy League school, did some time in the Marines, 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: and then made a bunch of money in business. And 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: then when twenty sixteen happened and a lot of liberals 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: were like, wow, how could Trump have won election? He 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: capitalized by writing a book trying to explain the Appalation experience, 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: even though again he only kind of lived there part 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: time and mostly yeah, had abandoned those people, and that part, 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: like the book is about him abandoning that part of 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: his life as soon as he possibly can. Not a 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: great book by my opinion, as someone who grew up 39 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: in a really fucking poor town in the Deep South. 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: But see, technically a millennial, Yeah, he's. 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: The first millennial who might become vice president. 42 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: That's a big part of why I think he was picked. 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: Agreed, Yeah, that's a big part of why. 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: So it was time for them to announce jd Vance. 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: They officially approved him. Delegates officially approved him, which happened 46 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: very quickly, and he came out to Chance in Ohio, 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: where he's from, was very stoked to have him there. 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Lots of chance of JD JD. 49 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: You're right, he had a hype man. 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he advanced his way out there with his 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: wife and looked emotional and yeah. All I know is 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: that he really fucking hates lb gt QIA people and 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I really fucking ate him. 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Uh huh, Yeah, I mean he said that he kind 55 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: of like turned the corner finally on what side, because 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: he had said some anti Trump stuff once in the day, 57 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: but he turned the corner. 58 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: Who has his. 59 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: Movie got really bad reviews? So if we wind up 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: going into full fledged fascist dictatorship, we can blame Ron 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: for some of that. And to be honest, we always 62 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: knew that was going to be the case. 63 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, valid, Yeah. 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: After that, Yeah, Marjorie Taylor Green gave a speech, a 65 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: couple other people, Tim Scott had a speech. 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: So there was a break between sessions. We came back 67 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: for the second session. The second session opens up with 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: what I could only describe as I was like, Christopher Nolan, 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: are you here? 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: It was like a reception. 71 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Sounding music like, Wow, traumatized. Thank you for that dramatized 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: video of like in a world, yeah, like showing crime 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: and people losing money and women and babies crying. 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: And then there's like literally bad clip art of money 75 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: on fire, bad. 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: Clip art of money on fire, and it's about It 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: was like three to five minutes long, very long. Because 78 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: I took a video of it. 79 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: It felt like a really bad, like action thriller trailer 80 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: could have been partly AI. There was sort of some 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: stege animation towards the end because they were they had 82 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: this camera that was sweeping through this fake city. It 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: was all cg and it landed on this this this 84 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: floodlight on top of a room, this broken flickering in 85 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: the floodlight. Gears are turning, the music is ramping up, 86 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: and finally it lightens and we see Trump, the Trump 87 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: signal shining in the cloudy sky, calling calling the hero 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: the mass Avenger as. 89 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: If it was the bat signal from Batman. 90 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: It was shameful. 91 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: And then and then people loved it. 92 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: They yeah, I got a great reaction. There's also a 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: video of all the scenes. If you if you've ever 94 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: seen clips from rallies, you've probably seen little clips of Trump, 95 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: like fake dancing. 96 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: Doing doing that weird dancer. 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: He does his hand, he doesn't dance, he's excited, he's 98 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: in a good mood. 99 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: You know the dance. 100 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: It's what we would describe as a little wiggle. Anyways, 101 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: it was a very long. 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: Wiggle video and people loved it. 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: No, it looked like this is the type of video 104 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: that liberals would post to make fun of Trump, and 105 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: the fact that it was used as a hype video 106 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: shows how useless that style of like political property end 107 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: is like, No, you can't make fun of Trump for 108 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 2: doing that little dance. That doesn't That doesn't do anything. 109 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: You can't make There's no use in making fun of Trump. 110 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: There is no value in satirizing him. There is no 111 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: value in laughing at him. Like if it helps you personally, 112 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: that's great, if you need that to get by, we 113 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: all do it sometimes, but it is no, it does 114 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: no damage to them, like the not to shit on 115 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: John Oliver. But the Trump stuff was a wild and 116 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: spectacular failure. None of it accomplished anything, and everybody who 117 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: ever thought that you could make fun of Trump and 118 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: have any positive impact was wrong, And you should feel 119 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: a little bad I do. 120 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: Because and because they used it as a hype video. 121 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: They used it to stitch between their different musical acts, 122 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: different segments, and oh boy, the music so that the 123 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: music was better than the music at the at the 124 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: welcome party that we talked about in our last episode. 125 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: But that bar is not very high. It's all. It's 126 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: also it's all country music, right, there's country music cover bands. 127 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: It was not all country. No, there was a lot 128 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: of like nineties stuff. 129 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: There was a fucking it's played in the style of country. 130 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: But there was some bye bye by your boat guy. 131 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: There was the talk about they had a they had 132 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: a Fleetwood Mac song someone did you was? 133 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: There was like a essentially like the the run of 134 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: the evening. 135 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: And and country music. My apologies, it was dad rock 136 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: and country music. 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: You know what I have to tell you. We do 138 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: not care enough to argue about this anyways. The music 139 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: was fucking mid It was like the way because I 140 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: of course, like a bunch of people have Texas today 141 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: and been like, how is it? And the only way 142 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: that we can describe it is if a normal person 143 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: went to their favorite concert and and had great seeds, yeah, 144 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: and uh you were very happy. Is the same exact 145 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: or you went to a Game seven of the NBA Finals. 146 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: That's exactly the the reaction that the people in the 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: crowd were having. 148 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: It's a mix of like a sports event, a concert, 149 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: and like a mega church. There was if there was 150 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: some kind of concert that a whole bunch of boomers 151 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: really enjoyed. That was the general vibe of the convention today, 152 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: which is. 153 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: Not all that different from how Trump rallies feel totally. 154 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: It had it had that vibe, and it felt more 155 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: more like a concert than the twenty sixteen RNC diad. 156 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was also there was so much 157 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: music in so few speeches. The speeches were only like 158 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: two minutes long each and there would be like extended, 159 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: like ten twenty minute musical performances in between each speech. 160 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: Like mostly it's just it's just people playing songs on stage. 161 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: That was most of the R and C today. 162 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: There was there was several different speeches that came after 163 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: those strange videos, and we'll get into that, but first 164 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to an ad break, and when we 165 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna play live us from the RNC. 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: Well it was live when we recorded. 167 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, as what I'm saying live us we were alive 168 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: back then and now questionable talking about what we were 169 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: experiencing in the moment. 170 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: But first ads, Okay, we are back, and now we 171 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: will tune in to our recording we made on the 172 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: convention floor. 173 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: Doun dun dun. 174 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: Okay, we are well recording live, broadcasting a little bit later, 175 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: but recording live on the ground at the Republican National Convention. 176 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: We've had a very a very busy morning. It's now 177 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: mid afternoon. We're in between sessions. The first session just 178 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: wrapped up, and we thought we were we should record 179 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: some of our immediate thoughts before our little debrief tonight. 180 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 4: I guess let's start with Robert Evans. 181 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, first off, my main overwhelming kind of takeaway 182 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: is that the tone and tempo of this is a 183 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: lot milder than I expected. And I think it's because 184 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: the over majority of people here are extremely conservative, the 185 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: most dedicated and active members of the party. But it's 186 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: not like the Proud Boy Crew over Definitely some of 187 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: those people here, but. 188 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: These are electoralists. 189 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: These are electoralists. Most of them are a lot older, 190 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: you know. I would say the average age is somewhere 191 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 3: between the late forties to the sixties of like people 192 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: you encounter here, And it is interesting to me that 193 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: I have not, you know, as soon as we, like 194 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: we said yesterday, as soon as we landed, we saw 195 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: a guy with a Trump after he got shot, sticking 196 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: his fist in the airshirt. I haven't seen a ton 197 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: of that on the ground here since. I've not seen 198 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: a ton of it, nor have I seen a ton 199 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: of direct references to it. 200 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: I guess the sophie here, I think that guess the 201 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: main reference that I've seen is when they did the delegate. 202 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 4: Official photo, that would be the big one. 203 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they all turned around and raised their fist in 204 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: the way that Donald Trump did after the attempted assassination, 205 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: which was fascinating to me. 206 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, especially given the lack of otherwise direct emphasis 207 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: on what happened. And maybe that's coming up. I kind 208 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: of do. The way I'm interpreting it now is because 209 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: the thing that just dropped a few minutes ago is 210 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: the FBI got into the shooter's phone. So far, preliminary 211 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: findings nothing in there that makes it clear why he 212 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: did it, So I kind of think they may just 213 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: be sort of confused as to why one of their 214 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: own seemingly carried out the shooting. Not really clear what 215 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: the rhetoric on the shooters should be, but very clear 216 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: on how they should respond to the Trump photo, Which 217 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: is the primary takeaway from that is the photo is 218 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: the pose, is him cementing his image as this indestructible, 219 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: you know, man who's constantly under attack, right, And so 220 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: it makes sense to me that they've adopted that hand sign, 221 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 3: and I expect we'll see more of it, And boy, howdy, 222 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: does it just look exactly like that the hand sign 223 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: from the far right that everyone's familiar with. 224 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: So as we were kind of in between speakers, they 225 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: had this little band playing, and we happened to be 226 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: sitting next to one of the younger people that I've 227 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: seen attending the convention, but like still still like an adult, 228 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: like a very young adult, maybe twenty one, maybe twenty 229 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: at most. 230 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: He couldn't have been older than twenty one, because he 231 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 3: said this is his first election. He'll be able to 232 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: vote in yes presidential election, so probably a little bit 233 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: younger than me. 234 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: It's interesting because yesterday we talked with some, you know, 235 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: very old people, and today we talked with some very 236 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: young people to yet and it's it is a it 237 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: is an interesting contrast. So, yeah, this young conservative from 238 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: from California but now lives in South Dakota and I 239 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: don't know. We were asking him about, like what what 240 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: focus he has in politics. He seemed really concerned about 241 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: the economy. That was that was kind of his main 242 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: his main. 243 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: Issue, almost the only thing he wanted to talk about 244 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: was the economy. He was one thing, I'll say, very 245 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: good natured, like not in the I am doing the 246 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: pr thing, I am trying to put on an image, 247 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: but just in the not at all aggressive, did not 248 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: react kind of negatively to the fact that we were media, 249 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: which you get a lot of that at events like these. 250 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: He expressed that the only places he gets his news 251 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: is Fox and News Nation on TV. He is not 252 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: on social media, which I found interesting and statistics suggest 253 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: obviously that's not the norm, but it is a growing 254 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: number of gen Z and Jen Alpha kids who avoid 255 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: a lot of the internet. 256 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: Well, and that's especially among conservatives. I mean, there is 257 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: a lot of young conservatives who do get their news 258 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: on TikTok, who do get their news. Podcasts are one 259 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: of the biggest, biggest ways that young people to the 260 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: right get their news obviously, like the Daily Wire is 261 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: very dominant in the podcasting scene. But no, I find 262 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: that very interesting, And I assuen that's probably like, you know, 263 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: influenced by his family. You know, whatever is on, whatever's 264 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: on the family TV. 265 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: His uncle is about to be the mayor of Huntington Beach, California, 266 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: and is the sheriff. Huntington Beach is the most conservative 267 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: city in California, probably a pretty wide margin. 268 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, he expressed a lot of frustration that we 269 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: were giving lots of money to Ukraine, that he felt 270 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: that Zelenski was suspending on himself instead of on the military. 271 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean he seemed like a good old 272 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: Christian boy. He was very very in to the praying 273 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: section of the night. I asked him and ed ed 274 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: at some point when when JD. Vance was coming out 275 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: on stage to be announcedly the official vice president, like 276 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: if he thinks that they're gonna win this year, Like 277 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: do you think that the Republicans are gonna win? 278 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: And he said yes, if it's fair. 279 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the same. That was the first thing 280 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: I asked him, And that was the same answer he 281 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 3: gave me. And you know, speaking of Vance, because Vance 282 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: is my first thought and a lot of people's first thought, 283 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: and I think this is probably the accurate thing to 284 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: say about Vance. He does not provide a lot to Trump, right, 285 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: He's not a guy who won by a wide margin. 286 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: I'm not even confident he on his own does anything 287 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 3: to deliver his state Ohio. But what this kid brought 288 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: up and what I suspect Trump season him, because when 289 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: I asked, what do you think about JD. Vance, he 290 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: repeatedly said, I think he's loyal. I think he really 291 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: likes Trump. I think he's loyal. And I did bring 292 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: up the fact that Vance has said bad things about 293 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 3: Trump in the past, and then he went on this 294 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 3: thing where he was like, I think that DeSantis and 295 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: Trump really like each other. It's all politics. And I 296 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: wanted to say, how deranged, but then he was like, 297 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: you know, it's like Kamala and Joe. She was really 298 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 3: mean to him during the debate and now she's his 299 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: vice president. I was like, well, that's actually a pretty 300 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: reasonable way to look at the situation. I don't know 301 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: that I think it's actually accurate, but I see the 302 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: logical through line there, and I was kind of you know, 303 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting. 304 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting when they were bringing out JD. 305 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: Vance and he was dancing vamping. I'm going to call 306 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: it dancing vancing advancing that. You know, they were quick 307 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: to call out that he he was a marine, quick 308 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: to call him a patriot, quick to call him a 309 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: family man. 310 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: And I think that's what he brings to the table. 311 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: He brings those three things as well as his age, 312 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: and I think that's that's what the GOP is focusing on. Yeah, 313 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean, other than that, there was a really weird 314 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: prayer thing Gare. 315 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 316 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: That was after Vance came up. They did the benediction. 317 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 318 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: It was what I could only express is a little 319 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: bit like spiritually disturbing. All of like the led screens 320 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: behind behind, like the speakers all flashed like very like 321 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: Facebook esque like images of like you know, the Bible 322 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: of like families praying, like kids glowing like glowing like 323 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: like the heavenly glowing light, like the the the whole 324 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: environment change from like you know, it's usually very like 325 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: sports debate, you know, Red versus Blue. It's you know, 326 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: it's it's very traditional like Americana, And it was a 327 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: very it was a very intense shift to like to 328 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: like this to this like a like strong like facebook 329 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: Christianity almost. That's that's the best way I can I 330 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: can describe it with words. And I mean, you know, 331 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: it was a typical Christian dominionist moment where you have 332 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: you know, the the one of the largest of two 333 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: political parties, just fully fully embracing the UH and fully 334 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: you know, putting out that you know, this is this 335 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: is a this is a religious party almost more than 336 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: anything else. The religion is so important to the ceremony, 337 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: and specifically not just any religions of course, just Christianity. 338 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: And I don't know, they spent like almost like the 339 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: last half of the prayer talking about Israel and you know, 340 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: specifically saying the children of Abraham and the Holy City 341 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: of Jerusalem and you know, all all of that kind of. 342 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: Language prayer for the hostages. 343 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: Talking about how the hostages are being kept against their will. 344 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: But no, all the language reminds me a lot of 345 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: like my childhood and the rhetoric around Israel as this 346 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: place to secure so that so that you know. 347 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: The prophecies can come true for Jesus'. 348 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: Second coming, and like that that is that is the 349 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: entire the entire bit. 350 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: I'm trying to recall if there was a big benediction 351 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: at the end after the twenty sixteen RNC when Pennce 352 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: was nominated, and I'm sure there was, but for whatever reason, 353 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: it doesn't stick out in my mind the way this 354 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: one did. 355 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: No, this will certainly stick stick out in my mind. 356 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: Like everyone knows Republicans are, you know, the more Christian party, 357 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: but just the the shar like a consensus about it here, 358 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: just like everybody is, like even if they aren't themselves Christian, 359 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: most people are, but like everyone in on this thing happening, 360 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: it was. It was just a it was just an 361 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: interesting moment contrasted to the overall, you know, like a 362 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: concert kind of sports vibe that the rest of the 363 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: convention kind of carries. 364 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the only other thing that I pointed 365 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: out at one point, I went to get water and 366 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: I came back and I mentioned right before we started 367 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 1: to record, to both Gar and Robert, I was like, 368 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: cops keep touching me and like putting their hand on 369 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: my shoulder, and you know is one cop just wanted 370 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: to talk to me about my day, and I was 371 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: like trying to get water and going back into the convention. 372 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: And then I mentioned that to Garon Robert and they 373 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: both said that they've been touched quite a lot too, 374 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 1: And I just think that's interesting to note. And you know, 375 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: I don't particularly like to be touched by strangers, especially cops. 376 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 3: Mine has been on the shoulder by like a couple 377 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: of different what I would describe them as, like uncle codd, 378 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: guys who I don't know and was not talking to, 379 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: just like walking past me and putting a hand on 380 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: my shoulder, like like someone who is a family member 381 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: would do casually, like a family event, you know, when 382 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: you're on the way to do something else. But I've 383 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: never met these people. We did not talk. That was odd. 384 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 3: It hasn't happened to me before. Maybe everyone's just in 385 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: a very good mood because they're that sure they're going 386 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: to win. Maybe we just ran into a lot of 387 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: creepy uncle types unclear. 388 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to contrast with the DNC, But no, 389 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: it certainly has been a pattern. There's a lot more 390 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: like just casual touching here. And yeah, I think that 391 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: is most of our thoughts right now. I guess that 392 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: the last thing I guess I'll add is the young 393 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 2: kid that we were talking to who was was very 394 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: excited about about this, about this whole deal. As Vance 395 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: was coming out and you know, the crowd was going 396 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: crazy and everything, he very quietly remarked that he was 397 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: like gonna start crying because it was just like so 398 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: like an impactfully, I think it was. I think it 399 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: was mostly to himself. He was just like acknowledging that 400 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: verbally and then said he wants to become a cop 401 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: and that just you know, that is that is the 402 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: entire base. And then he was then immediately went into 403 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: a very a very intense prayer posture during the prayer. 404 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: And that's just a good portion of the country, I guess. 405 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 3: Yep, yep uh. 406 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 407 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: It was interesting. We were talking about Ukraine for a 408 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: while because his stance on it was he's fine with 409 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: them getting weapons, but he's sure they're getting a lot 410 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: of money that Zelensky is doing something shady with and 411 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 3: generally felt like Zelensky wasn't fighting, which I thought was interesting. 412 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 3: It is kind of it makes sense to me if 413 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 3: you've skimmed the way the right reports on Ukraine a lot, 414 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: that would be his attitude. But He also said he 415 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: wasn't supportive of yielding to Putin on any of Putin's demands. 416 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: And then when I talked about because I chatted with 417 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: him about some of my experiences in Ukraine, and when 418 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: he found out that I had done more reporting, his 419 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: first question was, have you ever been to Israel? 420 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 421 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: That was interesting. 422 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, just immediately asked that. Oh, one other note, 423 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 3: we did run into a fan of the show who 424 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: was working, who was wearing a USS Liberty hat. Liberty 425 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: was like a US Navy ship that was struck by Israel, 426 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: and it's, you know, under very shady circumstances, and it's 427 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: kind of like one of the better ways you could 428 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: be publicly critical of the Israeli military, at least at 429 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 3: the RNC, without most people knowing what you're doing. Yeah, 430 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: I thought that was funny. 431 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: The very last thing I'll say is that right as 432 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: we exited the first session, we ran into friend of 433 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: the pod Ramaswami, who was who was a little shorter 434 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: than I expected, a tall man, not a tall man. 435 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: And I did ask the kid that were sitting next 436 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: to you know, I'm curious about his thoughts on the 437 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: future of the party and I asked him specifically about 438 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: the VEK, and he said he likes for VEK because 439 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: the BEC is a businessman, just like Trump, and he 440 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: wants someone to run the country like a business. 441 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: I should also note that the VEK was followed by 442 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: a swarm of like I'm guessing, his entourage. All of them, 443 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: nearly all of them, were very young men who I 444 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: would describe as nick fuintes coded Yes, like like they 445 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: really had that physiognomy to them. Groper types, Yeah, groper types, 446 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: which JD vance. It's one of the things coming out 447 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: right now is that he's in a group chat with 448 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: a bunch of sixteen year old groper So I am 449 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: excited for some of those, more of those chats to 450 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: come out. 451 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 2: All right. Well, back to future us talking about the 452 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: rest of the Republican National Convention Day one. 453 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: Wow, that sure was great. We had such a fun time. 454 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: You know what else is fun? Here's some more ads. 455 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: We're back to conclude. We got a couple of things 456 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: to talk about. One of them is, you know, obviously 457 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: we're at a convention. We don't have a car, We're 458 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: taking ubers everywhere, we're eating at restaurants. 459 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: And this has taken over almost all of the central 460 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: area of Milwaukee, and there were. 461 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: Because of a lot of fuck ups. For one thing, 462 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 3: a lot of places that in downtown we're supposed to 463 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: be booked are not booked. Businesses are not getting the 464 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 3: kind of business they had expected to get during this 465 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: because of some of those fuck ups. Yeah, and kind 466 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: of most interesting to us so coming into this. One 467 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: of the things the Republicans even put at billboards in 468 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: Milwaukee over this, and this is a big thing that 469 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: Trump is campaigning on to try to get service worker 470 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: type people to vote for him, is no tax on tips, 471 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: And to make a long story short, it works out 472 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 3: to be much worse for service workers. Kind of the 473 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: compromise here is that they can continue to pay far 474 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: below minimum wage and there will be no attempts to 475 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: raise that at all. And of course the kind of 476 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: people who vote for Republicans don't tip by and large 477 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: the workers. We have been talking to every Uber driver 478 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: at all of the waiters waitresses that we've had, and 479 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: pretty overwhelmingly nearly one hundred percent of them say like, yeah, 480 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: we're just not getting to. 481 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: No one's tipping. The extreme negative views not just because 482 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: of like the politics right, just. 483 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: Because about more than half of them don't really care. 484 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: To absolutely not, They're just doing business and like they're 485 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: just they're these these are just bad patrons. These are 486 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: simply people that are They're not nice to be around, 487 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: interact like these types of events like the RNC the 488 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: dn't see these are like cities campaign for this under 489 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: the notion that this will like you know, boost local business. Right, 490 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: We'll bring a whunch of people from out of town. 491 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: People will get a lot of money to all these 492 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: local businesses. And because of how the security set up 493 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: this year in the in Milwaukee, so many businesses just 494 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: can get no business because they're completely inside this like 495 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: fence perimeter and UH and the rest are are not 496 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: are not seeing very good business from what from from 497 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: what it sounds like, and even even like hotels downtown 498 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: are large largely vacant because of weird, weird scheduling area. 499 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: We we went to dinner earlier tonight with some friends 500 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: and we asked one of the restaurant workers like how 501 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: it was going, and obviously she said the same thing 502 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: that we've heard so many times, which is not great, 503 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: not good, not making a lot of tips. But what 504 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: was interesting is she said, you know, and they really 505 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: tried to throw in our faces that this was going 506 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: to be a good thing for all of us and 507 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: we were all going to make a bunch of money, 508 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: and it's happening. It's just not happening. 509 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: And chatted to Timothy Faust, who was a writer, great writer, 510 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 3: great guy, and a local here. We had dinner with him, 511 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: and he pointed out that Milwaukee has been and was 512 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 3: on the verge of bankruptcy still having a lot of 513 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: problems with that, and a big part of why they 514 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: took the RNC was because Republicans in the state legislature 515 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: that was basically the bargaining point, so that they would 516 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: allow a sales tax, which was kind of necessary in 517 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 3: order to There's more to it than that, but a 518 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: big part of like how the negotiations broke down was 519 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: the Republicans wanted this in order to make it possible 520 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: for the city of Milwaukee to not collapse because it 521 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 3: was on the verge of bankruptcy. And hearing that made 522 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: a lot of sense, made a lot of things click 523 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: into place, because it does everyone we have talked to 524 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: who is a local and who is working in any 525 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: job that interfaces with the convention and convention goers talks 526 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: like they've been scammed. 527 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just one more thing before we get into 528 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: the rest of you know what we experienced speech wise 529 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: and other is the difference in security today versus the outdoor. 530 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: But we went to yesterday for the welcome party. Very surprising, 531 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: very surprising. So just just the one to one example 532 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: I'll give you listeners is yesterday they took every single 533 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: item out of my bag that I had after putting 534 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: through a scanner and unzipped everything. Today they zipped it 535 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: up because they didn't want anything to fall out and 536 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: didn't open it, didn't touch a single thing, went through 537 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: a scanner. I was through security in like four seconds. 538 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. It was super weird, way more 539 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: lax getting into the actual convention center than it was 540 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: to get into the outdoor welcome party, which is just 541 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: a It came off as a little little surprising to us. 542 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: They had they made such a big deal about what 543 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: you can and can't bring in and had specific measurements 544 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: for like bags and stuff. But we saw people with 545 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: some of the large, very very large backround, some bags 546 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: that were bigger than me, and yeah, you know that's 547 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: just interesting to note. 548 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 2: One less thing on the service worker thing. On our 549 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: ride home from the RNC or back to the hotel, 550 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: we sat in anu Berg with a very nice man 551 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: who I would describe as the average Wisconsin voter. Yeah, 552 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: he had he had a Teamsters shirt and you know 553 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 2: of a variety of like of both liberal and kind 554 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: of conservative opinions. You know, it's I think he kind 555 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: of leaned more liberal, but he certainly had, you know, 556 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: of of a variety of opinions. And he was both 557 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: expressing the same thing in regards to tips, but also 558 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: a men's frustration at the way police were treating locals. 559 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: The way police were treating local drivers. Just the sheer 560 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: influx of cops just to have have made have made 561 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: functioning in this city just so challenging to any of 562 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: these locals. And yeah, that was a very fascinating conversation 563 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: that we might discuss that at a late time. Well, 564 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: we will talk about now are Catholics those those little fiends? 565 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: So after the very like evangelical Children of Abraham prayer 566 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: that that we talked about in our in our archival audio, 567 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 2: as soon as we came back for the second session, 568 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: there was an opening prayer led by the Archbishop of Milwaukee, 569 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: which is kind of interesting because a lot of the 570 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: intendees here are very evangelical, these are not Catholics, and 571 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: there you could definitely see there is you know, a 572 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: little a little bit of groans amongst amongst some of 573 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: these people. 574 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: And I found a very. 575 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: Interesting move to somebody who talked shit on the Catholics earlier. 576 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: The l the old lady that we or at least 577 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: that I was talking to last night at the party, 578 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: made a couple of comments about Catholics because she doesn't 579 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 3: believe they really worship Jesus because pop Catholics. Yeah, and 580 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: well it's not even the papstries because Catholics. This is 581 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: a thing that Born Again have an issue with Catholicism 582 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: is don't believe you have to accept Christ to go 583 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: to heaven. Like if you do good thing things, Catholics 584 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: think you can go to heaven. Sure, And that is 585 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 3: deeply offensive to a sizable chunk of the Christian community 586 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 3: in the United States. 587 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I found that very interesting. Wasn't really expecting 588 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: to see an opening Catholic prayer and that that was 589 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: I want to talk to some more more people tomorrow 590 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: about that is Chance's Catholic. That that that makes it. 591 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: That's probably why is a Catholic. 592 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: Convert, just like the Red Scare Girl. He is a 593 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: Catholic convert millennial who has taken a bunch of money 594 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: from Peter. 595 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: Teel many such cases. So one of the first people 596 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: to speak after this archbishop was famed Republican figure Marjorie 597 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: Taylor Green, who we could have a lot to say, 598 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: but I think the first thing that I want to 599 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: mention is that she feels more representative of most of 600 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: the RNC attendees and anyone else who we've seen speak 601 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: like she She has the same energy and vibe as 602 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: most of the attendees like that, that is why they 603 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: love her so much, because she is one of them, 604 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: to the point where she she was like a Republican 605 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: fan who just happened to get into office, and now 606 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: she's this major figure. 607 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: She was the. 608 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: Mascot exactly and was a lot more popular than dance. 609 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, in terms of floor reaction. 610 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: No, she is. She is beloved among this crowd. She 611 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: she's she is them right. The audience members can see her, 612 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: and they can they can see themselves in her and 613 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: she got the biggest reaction out of out of the crowd, 614 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: probably saved for Trump making a short appearance, but her 615 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: speech had the biggest reaction, and we will we will 616 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: get to that now. One of the first things she 617 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: said is you're talking about the assassination attempt and stuff. 618 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: Is that Trump? She referred to him as the founding 619 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: father of the America First Movement, which is a lot 620 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: of interesting loaded language there. There are a lot of 621 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: words there, a very extremely loaded language for the founding 622 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: father of the America First Movement. She then spoke about 623 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: the wonderful family man whose life was unfortunately cut short 624 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: from getting shot in the attempted assassination attempt of Donald Trump, 625 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: uh saying that that Corey embodied the America First spirit. 626 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: But no, she she she had all of all of 627 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: the typical lines that you would say about someone who 628 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: was who was killed in an incident like this, And 629 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: and then she talked about the thing that got the 630 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: loudest applause out of anything else today, which is which 631 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: is the whole gender ideology issue. She talked about how 632 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: how President Biden turned Easter into Transvisibility Day, which is 633 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: factually because Easter changes holidays, transvisibility days on the same day, 634 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: you know, but Easter changes the actual day it's on. 635 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: But that got a massive boo and there was people 636 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: sitting next to us who were just shouting evil, just 637 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: super loud sh shouting evil. And this is this is 638 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: the most hyped up I've ever seen the crowd. You know, 639 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: all the other mentions there were, there's a few other 640 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 2: mentions about you know, men and women's sports, that kind 641 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: of thing that got you know, the big, biggest, the 642 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: biggest booze and the biggest cheers, like respectively. You know, 643 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: people saying there are only two genders. We're brave enough 644 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: to say it, We're gonna keep saying it. That hyped 645 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: up the crowd just just more than anything else. 646 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, life be clear here, there are only 647 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: two genders, and the crowd went just nuts bananas. 648 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: She right after that made a statement about needing to 649 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: stop sending money to Ukraine, that Zelensky was going to 650 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: embezzle or something about half the volume, not not. 651 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: Not a tiny compared to the rest of the cheering 652 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: of a pretty loud reaction. 653 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: Like not a bad reaction, but it was clearly about 654 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: half the volume with the anti transfer and mind. 655 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: You listeners, she spoke for like what it was like 656 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: three minutes top. 657 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be surprised if the whole speech typed 658 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: out was more than about a page. 659 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: No, it was wild. 660 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: She's basically a bullet point list of like hate speech. 661 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 3: If I kind of want to go back through video 662 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: of the I remember the speeches at the twenty sixteen 663 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: R and C being longer, but that's a million years ago. 664 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, she had, you know, the the usual comments 665 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: about you know, how we have to stop the globalists, 666 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: the wealthy and the powerful few, which is just which 667 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: is just an interesting thing to speak to an RNC 668 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 2: crowd because it's one of the most powerful thing, the wealthy, 669 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: powerful few. You are talking to them and her the 670 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: line that came right before this was talking about how 671 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: how we have to stand up against the establishment who 672 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: promise unity but promote division. And I'm like, this is 673 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: this is this is the most We're all trying to 674 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 2: find the guy who did this moment ever, right You're 675 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: you're talking about how there's there's these these powerful establishment 676 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: figures who talk about unity but actually just promote division, 677 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: and like you were, you were talking about yourself and 678 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: all the times that these like these like people who 679 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: work in Washington start bashing like the establishment and stuff 680 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: like you you are the establishment, that is you, that 681 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: that is your job, but that those are very very 682 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: common talking points and stuff like that. I'm sure many 683 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: listeners are familiar with this, with this sort of like 684 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: double speak. And yeah, that was her speech. Definitely the 685 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: biggest reaction we saw the crowd have Trump and his 686 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: family made a very brief appearance, kind of kind of 687 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: a surprise appearance, but to some people's surprise, he didn't 688 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: He didn't actually give a speech. He instead, i think, 689 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: took which was the smarter play, show up with a 690 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: very large bandage on his ear and instead sit down 691 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: and listen, just become part of the audience. It's an 692 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: interesting movely. He didn't immediately like take over the convention. No, 693 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: he's kind of playing this more like statesman role. 694 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: He almost looked like he was tearing up. 695 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was sitting in the crowd. 696 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 3: Quiet, subdued. Even Yep, he looked worried at point. 697 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: Worried, anxious or somber. 698 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised if it was 699 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: a natural reaction to being in your first crowd after 700 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: being shot and nearly died. 701 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeact the last time you were in a crowd. 702 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, like he is a person, right, That's just how 703 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: people react, just oftentimes when that kind of thing happens. 704 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. He was sitting next to Carlson, JD. 705 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: Vans and Michael and and Mike Johnson with his kids 706 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: sitting behind him. 707 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: Look, when you have a near death experience, you know, 708 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: when somebody somebody shoots at you and damn near hits, 709 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: it crystallizes a lot. You know what's really important, and 710 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: you also know what you don't want to waste your 711 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: time with anymore. And that's that's why the Trump kids 712 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 3: were in the back of that crowd. He doesn't want 713 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: them anywhere near him. Life is short. 714 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: I just want to point out what they showed Trump 715 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: on the screen with with Mike Tucker and who is 716 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: the fourth person. 717 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: Oh, Jenniebants. 718 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: I've already forgot. His face curiously goes nightmare blood rotation, 719 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: and they are correct. 720 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: And that that that was day one of the convention. 721 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: That I do want to get into one other thing 722 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 3: because this again we had our big don't panic episode 723 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: a day or two before that, you wild heard one 724 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: episode in between those two and posting stuff today, posting 725 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: comments on like how extreme the rhetoric is. I see 726 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: people getting scared again, you should like you should be 727 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: very concerned to hear is not an unreasonable reaction to 728 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: seeing all this happen. But this is also something that 729 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: I think will contextualize the scale of the actual number 730 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: of people that we're talking about here. When we were sitting, 731 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: we found a quiet place to record the middle bit 732 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 3: that you heard. So we were in kind of an 733 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 3: empty area, and I would say close to half of 734 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 3: the or about right about half, maybe even a little 735 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,959 Speaker 3: more of the actual stadium was empty, uh, And most 736 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: of them were clustered in the area that had And 737 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: so there were a lot of areas where there's just 738 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 3: absolutely nobody. And several times, what was it, three or 739 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: four times, so if you probably we had different people 740 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 3: who were I either worked for the RNC or worked 741 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: for the venue come by, but I'm guessing the rn 742 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 3: C just because of their general vibe, yeah, and because 743 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 3: the lanyards, yeah, to try to get us too. Because 744 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: even the areas that were full had a lot of 745 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 3: patches in them. They weren't all that full, so they 746 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 3: wanted to get us to get up from the empty 747 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 3: areas and move to fill in the areas that were 748 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 3: going to be on camera, so it looked like it 749 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 3: was fuller, and they did that because it was not 750 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 3: very full. Now, as someone, it's not very full because 751 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 3: this is a political convention. It is not open to 752 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 3: the masses. I don't know that it would have filled up. 753 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 3: It was open to the masses, but there's an inherently 754 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 3: limited guest list. But it did seem to be less 755 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: people than I recall from the twenty sixteen RNC, and 756 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: more to the point, everything that you see and everything 757 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: we're talking about, and all of the extremity and the 758 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: weirdness of these in a lot of cases freaks, assholes, 759 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 3: creeps that we see. This is a couple of thousand 760 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: of the most dedicated Republicans in the country. This is 761 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 3: the elite of the party. These are the people who 762 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: have a lot of the money, if not most of it, 763 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 3: and a lot do a lot of the nuts and 764 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: bolts of making the Republican Party run. These are not 765 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: representative of most of the people who live around you, 766 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 3: unless you live in a place that is real hardcore 767 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 3: Trump country, in which case a lot of these folks 768 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: are familiar. But they but they got a lot more 769 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: money than your neighbors, I'll tell you that much. 770 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And it is worth pointing on that they 771 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 2: were trying to make an effort to move people around 772 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 2: to make the seats look more full, because also everything 773 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 2: that we're also seeing is theater. There's all these rituals 774 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 2: that they're doing to confirm the confirm the nomination. It's 775 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: like it's it's a very it's very ritualized, a very 776 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: theatrical experience. 777 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. There is one point where Robert and Gear were 778 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: walking around and I was sitting in our intersection by myself, 779 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: and I had three separate twenty something males come up 780 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: to me to try to give me Trump signs, and uh, 781 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: all three, in a very unsettling way, pointed out that 782 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: I was sitting alone and it made me feel very unsafe. 783 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to the Republican Party, so correct. 784 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and as they pointed out earlier, definitely a lot 785 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: of unwanted touching. 786 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he you know, welcome to the Republican Party. 787 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: And you know what, it's a lot of unwanted touching. 788 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 3: Unwanted touching is essentially part of the main party platform. 789 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: It literally and it is only day one. 790 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: It is day one, four, well, three more to go 791 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: and we will be covering it a night. 792 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with morey. Any final thoughts anyone? 793 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: Nope, nope, Tip your service workers. 794 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: And wash your hands. It could Happen here as a 795 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: production of cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from cool 796 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: Zone Media, visit our website cool zonemedia dot com, check 797 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 798 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts. You can find sources for It 799 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: could Happen Here, updated monthly at coolzonemedia dot com slash sources. 800 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.