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Speaker 1: you had a great weekend. Case you missed my recap
Speaker 1: of the wedding festivities, go to dan Patrick dot com.
Speaker 1: All the gory details are there. A grown man weeping, emoting, sobbing.
Speaker 1: Paulie said, if I gave you a mulligan, I go,
Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter. There was nothing I could do. I
Speaker 1: was in that moment where I went, I just got
Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm not heaving. You know, it's
Speaker 1: one thing to cry a little like a tear. I
Speaker 1: would have paid fifty thousand dollars for just a tear.
Speaker 1: You know, when your shoulders start, they're moving up and down,
Speaker 1: you're heaving. That's what I did. That's what I did.
Speaker 1: That was a mess. Dick for Meal said, you're a baby.
Speaker 1: You don't stop crying. But made it through. Yeah, I survived.
Speaker 1: How many how many fathers of the groom or even
Speaker 1: the bride say, yep, I survived. The wedding supposed to
Speaker 1: be one of the great moments in your life, and
Speaker 1: it was. But it was all about self preservation. I
Speaker 1: was just worried about the photo ops. You know if
Speaker 1: somebody who was going to have a picture of me,
Speaker 1: you know, weeping, bawling, and they're probably going to be
Speaker 1: out there, but you know, hair and makeup look great.
Speaker 1: I will say that I did. All right. We'll give
Speaker 1: you our best and worst of the weekend, coming up
Speaker 1: for better or for worst. NFL draft classes defined by
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks, and this is a big one. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have five pretty sure fire first rounders. They may be
Speaker 1: in the first fifteen picks, but if you look at
Speaker 1: the success rate of first round qbs, that should raise
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. And I don't think it is.
Speaker 1: Like we just assumed Trevor Lawrence is going to be awesome,
Speaker 1: and maybe he will. Zach Wilson, well, he's going number two.
Speaker 1: Very little question about Zach Wilson, Like, yeah, of course
Speaker 1: he's going to the jet all right. I'm not all in.
Speaker 1: Like everybody looks great at their pro day for the
Speaker 1: most part. Everybody looks great in college put together a
Speaker 1: highlight reel. I don't know how Zach Wilson is going
Speaker 1: to react to a fan base that wants greatness. They'll
Speaker 1: turn on him and he's going to be going to
Speaker 1: an organization that is not good historically. If you go
Speaker 1: back to the mock drafts in twenty eighteen, Sam Darnald,
Speaker 1: what's the safe pick? The experts talked about, Well, the
Speaker 1: Browns should be taken Sam Durnald, safe pick, Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: riskier personality questions. Josh Allen his lack of accuracy at Wyoming,
Speaker 1: maybe a project. Sam Darnald was the safe pick. Josh Rosen.
Speaker 1: Can't go wrong with Josh Rosen. Hey, some big games
Speaker 1: there had some big games, big comebacks there like okay,
Speaker 1: all right. Between twenty twenty nine twenty sixteen, fourteen quarterbacks
Speaker 1: were taken in the top ten. Not one of them
Speaker 1: is still with the team that drafted. The sure things
Speaker 1: aren't so sure. Jameis Winston had moments in Tampa. Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz played well in Philly. Jared Goff took the rands
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. They're with new teams and not
Speaker 1: only does the quarterback have to be good, but he
Speaker 1: has to be in the right situation. I always bring
Speaker 1: up Patrick Mahomes. He's a wonderful talent, but when he
Speaker 1: was at Texas Tech, people just watched and he was
Speaker 1: a curiosity, fun player risk taker farv like on a
Speaker 1: substandard team, goes to Kansas City, the infrastructures there, head coach, GM,
Speaker 1: offensive line weapons, plug him in, let him sit behind
Speaker 1: Alex Smith for one year. Not many quarterbacks get an
Speaker 1: opportunity like that. There's a quarterback in this draft who
Speaker 1: will succeed because he will go to a better team,
Speaker 1: and vice versa. There will be at least one quarterback
Speaker 1: who goes to a team that's not very good and
Speaker 1: he will not succeed. But you start to look at
Speaker 1: what's going to happen here, who's moving up, who's moving down?
Speaker 1: When quarterbacks go off the board early on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: just remember real success is really really hard to come by,
Speaker 1: and you don't measure it after one year or two years,
Speaker 1: or even three years, because it might be that second
Speaker 1: chance where somebody comes back and proves themselves. Alex Smith,
Speaker 1: who was there when the Niners drafted Colin Kaepernick. He
Speaker 1: was there in Kansas City when Kansas City drafted Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: He made the Pro Bowl and got traded. He had
Speaker 1: his best year in Kansas City and he lost his job.
Speaker 1: He'll join his coming up next down, like Jamis Winston,
Speaker 1: didn't see Tom Brady coming. If Jamis Winston throws thirty
Speaker 1: touchdowns and ten interceptions, he's still in Tampa when you
Speaker 1: joined the thirty thirty club and it's not baseball, that's
Speaker 1: not a good thing. Yes, McLevin, I say, Davis Winston
Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of things like the opposing linebacker
Speaker 1: again and again and again. But he got Lacey. He's
Speaker 1: probably gonna is He gonna be a star in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: You think you have you have optimistic Well, I thought
Speaker 1: that he was their future. If you were gonna look
Speaker 1: at him as who was going to be the starting
Speaker 1: quarterback there, I thought that it would be Jameis Winston,
Speaker 1: you know, being there with Breeze, being there with Sean
Speaker 1: Payton and being on a good team, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to win games for you don't lose games, you
Speaker 1: don't go out there and and his decision making was
Speaker 1: very poor. You know, it's not Florida State. You know,
Speaker 1: guys aren't wide open and you can't force things. And
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston hopefully has learned. I mean, if not, we're
Speaker 1: going to find out quickly. And Taysom Hill will probably
Speaker 1: you know, get more of a run than he should. Yeah, Mcluban,
Speaker 1: I have a theoretical question. Can a guy be a
Speaker 1: bust and still a good player? So, say Alex Smith
Speaker 1: was a bust as a number one overall pick, but
Speaker 1: then became a pro bowler later with Kansas City. He
Speaker 1: was still a bad pick at that time, even though
Speaker 1: he had some good years in San Francisco. But you
Speaker 1: could be a terrible pick, Like if Sam Garnold's Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl now, it was still a bad pick for the Jets.
Speaker 1: Or does that make no sense? Well, Mac Jones could
Speaker 1: be a bust even if he's successful, Like if Mac
Speaker 1: Jones is good in San Francisco, what they gave up
Speaker 1: to get him, he might not live up to that.
Speaker 1: And are you moving on from Garoppolo? At what point,
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, if he's successful in Carolina, does that make
Speaker 1: up for what he did or didn't do with the Jets. No,
Speaker 1: but you can have that second act. By the way,
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, through five thousand, one hundred ninety three career passes,
Speaker 1: he was intercepted only one hundred and nine times, So
Speaker 1: that's a two point one percent of his attempts were
Speaker 1: picked off. Among the players with at least five thousand
Speaker 1: career pass attempts. Only Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady have
Speaker 1: lower interception rates. Stead of your day, stat of the day,
Speaker 1: past stat of the day, stat of the day, here
Speaker 1: comes that what stat of the day. Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: number one at one point four percent of his passes,
Speaker 1: Brady one point eight percent, then Alex Smith two point one,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan two point one, Donovan McNab a two point
Speaker 1: one percent. The Falcons have received calls from teams about
Speaker 1: trading Julio Jones. There have been a variety of reports
Speaker 1: this morning on that, and the question is what do
Speaker 1: you give up. I've been told this morning it would
Speaker 1: be a second round pick for Julio Jones. It's just
Speaker 1: like the same thing with Jimmy Garoppolo. When the Niners
Speaker 1: say we want a first round pick, Well, great, you
Speaker 1: might want five first round picks. You're not getting it.
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy Garoppolo could be had for a second
Speaker 1: round pick, but you have to start somewhere, and then
Speaker 1: that's what happens when you start to negotiate, like here
Speaker 1: it is, this is what we want. When you're not
Speaker 1: getting that, like how many times do you go? I'll
Speaker 1: pay full price for the house, right, No, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna pay full price here. Yeah, mclovin second round pick.
Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots would have to look at that, right,
Speaker 1: I would think so. But I don't want to be
Speaker 1: moving up. I don't if I'm the Patriots, I don't
Speaker 1: want to move up for a quarterback, you know, because
Speaker 1: of what I have to give up to get up there. Too.
Speaker 1: Let's say Detroit's on the clock, Carolina is on the clock.
Speaker 1: How about Miami trades out of the sixth pick, and
Speaker 1: then let's say Kyle Pitts and Jamar Chaser off the
Speaker 1: board and Miami's there at six. And I was given this,
Speaker 1: you know, hypothetical this morning. Source said, Hey, if Miami's there,
Speaker 1: have a great relationship with Miami, Patriots could trade up
Speaker 1: to get the sixth pick overall, and with that they
Speaker 1: could take either Trey Lance or Justin Because if the
Speaker 1: Dolphins don't get Jamar Chake, now they might be I'm
Speaker 1: told you can move back and get Davonte Smith or
Speaker 1: Jail and Waddle. But it feels like it's Pitts, Chase Waddle.
Speaker 1: Then Davante Smith. Remember when you know that he won
Speaker 1: the Heisman, and we started talking about the draft, and
Speaker 1: people are going, could he go number one? Could he
Speaker 1: go number two? What about the Dolphins at number three?
Speaker 1: And I said, my source told me Jamar Chase is
Speaker 1: a better wide receiver, thought of as a better wide
Speaker 1: receiver than Davante Smith. And then of course Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: is different. You know, there's nobody like Kyle Pitts in
Speaker 1: the draft. But I could see New England at least
Speaker 1: exploring that what would it take to go up at
Speaker 1: six if they wanted justin Fields or Trey Land. Because
Speaker 1: if you're Bill Belichick, I got Cam Newton for one
Speaker 1: more year. Imagine I get two really athletic quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: come in and learn from Cam Newton dues, and don't
Speaker 1: I did this, shouldn't have done that, I did this,
Speaker 1: I didn't do enough of this. Those are the kind
Speaker 1: of things where I can get my quarterback of the future.
Speaker 1: We spend a lot of money in free agency, and
Speaker 1: we're ready to win now this year. Now I have
Speaker 1: my future. Now I have my quarterback. Now I can
Speaker 1: get some salary off the books, and I got a
Speaker 1: rookie contract with a quarterback. That's a possibility. The Patriots
Speaker 1: have a good relationship with the front office in Carolina
Speaker 1: and Detroit, and I think those are possibilities as well.
Speaker 1: But they may just sit there at fifteen and maybe
Speaker 1: they end up with somebody like Davonte Smith. Any chance, Miami,
Speaker 1: Detroit or Carolina shocked the world and take a quarterback. Carolina,
Speaker 1: I could see. I could see that, because you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to decide what you're gonna pay Sam. If Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold's good this year, now all of a sudden, Sam's
Speaker 1: gonna want twenty five million dollars a year, and you're
Speaker 1: not a good enough team. And that's why I was
Speaker 1: surprised when they You know, you're there where you could
Speaker 1: get a quarterback if you get the quarterback that you want.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. If I'm told that, Karen, don't
Speaker 1: rule that out with Carolina. I'm told don't rule it
Speaker 1: out with Detroit. But you know why when you're told this,
Speaker 1: it's because you want to tell these other teams, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you want him, you're gonna have to go up
Speaker 1: and get him. Hey, we might take a quarterback here. Okay,
Speaker 1: of course I would tell you anything this week, last week,
Speaker 1: the week before I would I would lie. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna tell you the truth. Yeah, Paul, I saw the
Speaker 1: report this morning that Detroit was interesting and moving back
Speaker 1: in the draft. Immediately I thought they're going to grab
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They're baiting everyone to think they're not going
Speaker 1: to grab a quarterback. And Jared Goff his contract is
Speaker 1: really friendly with Detroit. After one year they can get
Speaker 1: out easy. They got draft picks. Oh best and worst
Speaker 1: of the weekend H seven seven three d p show
Speaker 1: what you saw that you liked you didn't like? Pole
Speaker 1: question mclu who is most likely to not work out?
Speaker 1: Out of the five quarterbacks? We have a two a tie.
Speaker 1: Can you guess who the five quarterbacks being? Obviously Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, Trey Lance, and Justin Fields. Who
Speaker 1: is most likely not to work out? And there two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at the top of our poll, Mac Jones and
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. Yea yeah, and then go Zach Wilson, Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: And only four percent say Trevor Lawrence. But I'm not
Speaker 1: sold on Jacksonville like I Yes, he should win. And
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer is a great football mind ads and coached
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You don't walk out on the field
Speaker 1: like you did at Ohio State or Florida where you
Speaker 1: were the better team ninety five percent of the time.
Speaker 1: Just ask Steve Spurrier, you go in there and what
Speaker 1: do you have around Trevor Lawrence? And the same with
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. The quarterback who drops in the draft in
Speaker 1: the first round has a chance to be as successful
Speaker 1: in a shorter amount of time than those going up top.
Speaker 1: With Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, McLevin, But it's funny.
Speaker 1: Everyone talks bust or busted with the Jets and Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: but you don't hear a lot of people talking about
Speaker 1: how bad the situation is for Trevor Lawrence. It's almost
Speaker 1: like Jacksonville's off the radar. I don't get it, like
Speaker 1: we just moved on from Trevor Lawrence. The only reason
Speaker 1: why we paused was when he did the interview with
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrator and he talked about how football is not everything.
Speaker 1: I guess, you know he looks out of central casting
Speaker 1: that he looks like the quarterback, the franchise quarterback. Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson looks like, you know, Zach Efron playing Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: in the Zach Wilson movie. I have no idea, but
Speaker 1: all you can do is the information you get the
Speaker 1: information I trust from sources. I trust that I can
Speaker 1: pass that on to you. And what is coming out
Speaker 1: today is what I told you a month ago. I
Speaker 1: think the Niners not split, but I do think that
Speaker 1: you have a person or people in the Niners organization
Speaker 1: who like Trey Lance. And it feels like Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: likes Mac Jones. What happens on Thursday Night? Would I
Speaker 1: be surprised if they took somebody other than Mac Jones. No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, But I the surprising part is what you
Speaker 1: spent to get up there. That's what I still come
Speaker 1: back to. Could you have done this, pulled this off without,
Speaker 1: you know, giving up all those draft picks? Have poem?
Speaker 1: I have a theory on Shanahan, and I think other
Speaker 1: people have said this, so it's not that much of
Speaker 1: a theory. I think some coordinators love drop back quarterbacks
Speaker 1: because they followed the game plan as written. And I
Speaker 1: know that's not the hot take. It's just obvious. Like
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is a pure drop back quarterback. You give
Speaker 1: him a play, he checks down and throws to the
Speaker 1: person that's scheduled by the play caller and Matt. You know,
Speaker 1: Shanahan runs the thing if you have a scrambler, if
Speaker 1: you're Russell Wilson's offensive coordinator, he runs about half the
Speaker 1: plays as called. The other half of the plays he's improvising.
Speaker 1: And I think some offensive minds like Shanahan, others wanted
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna do what they want, Like you
Speaker 1: draft Daniel Jones. He's a drop back guy. Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: a drop back guy. Guys like that. I think that's
Speaker 1: what they're thinking is they'd rather have that than improviser. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Daniel Jones is an athlete as long as he
Speaker 1: doesn't get tripped up by you know, the yard marker.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an athlete there. But Kyle Shanahan, this
Speaker 1: is what I was told. And I don't have a
Speaker 1: relationship with Kyle. I don't. I don't know him, but
Speaker 1: I was told Kyle is the mad scientist that he
Speaker 1: values accuracy over athleticism. If you call the play correctly,
Speaker 1: if you run the play correctly, you will be successful.
Speaker 1: That's what Kyle wants his quarterback to do. I don't
Speaker 1: think be a robot. But basically, I'm gonna simplify. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do all the heavy lifting here and tell you
Speaker 1: it's either going to be this or this on this play.
Speaker 1: You either react this way or this way. You're going
Speaker 1: to be successful. This is what you do. And if
Speaker 1: mac Jones is the guy because he's accurate instead of
Speaker 1: athletically active, he would probably side with the accuracy. And
Speaker 1: I'm told John Lynch may like Trey Lance. Keep in mind,
Speaker 1: Trey Lance was recruited to be a defensive back. Not
Speaker 1: everybody was looking at him as a quarterback. You know,
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel defensive back, RG three defensive back. Trey Lance
Speaker 1: was going to be either a defensive back or a linebacker.
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger tight end Ryan Tannehill was a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I could. It doesn't always fit you think it does.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. And that's what's you make or break your
Speaker 1: your franchise with these picks, with these moves, the guy
Speaker 1: you pass stunt. Yeah, it feels like every top pick
Speaker 1: has a story where the big school in their state
Speaker 1: tried to play them on defense or missed on them,
Speaker 1: Like all the Texas University of Texas passed on every
Speaker 1: first round or ever did Minnesota tried to move him
Speaker 1: the linebacker? It's dude, So guys get all these guys wrong.
Speaker 1: And that's why I say it's an inexact science, because
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out do you love the game?
Speaker 1: You know? Will you play hurt? Are you a leader?
Speaker 1: Like there's so many things that go into it where
Speaker 1: you see somebody on tape and go, oh, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll take him, and then you realize once you get
Speaker 1: him home, it's like a puppy. I want that puppy.
Speaker 1: And then you get your puppy home and you go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I gotta train him. Wait, wait, don't
Speaker 1: go another accident. Not that I've been going through that
Speaker 1: with my little Winnie, but I have been. Yes, boy,
Speaker 1: do you guys remember when your children are born and
Speaker 1: you're at the hospital for like, I think a day
Speaker 1: and a half or two days. I think a night
Speaker 1: and a half. I remember when they were booting us
Speaker 1: out of the house. I'm like, you know, I may
Speaker 1: want one more night here where there's nurses all around.
Speaker 1: Even though the food's not good, it's being just handed
Speaker 1: over to you. That leaving the hostle was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's me now us Now. We got my son
Speaker 1: home and my wife and I looked at each other
Speaker 1: and we were like, oh my god, what do we do?
Speaker 1: Like they don't tell you that, like at the hospital
Speaker 1: and no congratulate and they wrap the baby. Everything's great
Speaker 1: if I bring a new car home and it has
Speaker 1: an owner's manual, But when you bring a baby home,
Speaker 1: there's no owner's manual. You're a cute little blanket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they go and here's a nippy and a blankie, and
Speaker 1: we gave you some you know, Gerber baby food. Then
Speaker 1: you get home you go, oh my god, what do
Speaker 1: I do here? You know, my wife told me a
Speaker 1: story because we were doing that with the wedding this
Speaker 1: past weekend with my son, and she said, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a time when we had four kids under
Speaker 1: the age of seven, and she said, there was a
Speaker 1: moment where I is going to fake an illness so
Speaker 1: I could go to the hospital and get a night sunny.
Speaker 1: I said, she goes, no, it's not gonna be anything serious.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna go and like it'd be the respiratory,
Speaker 1: like you know something we're having trouble breathing. And I said, wait,
Speaker 1: you were gonna try to pull this off, and she
Speaker 1: said yes, but I didn't. But I just so badly
Speaker 1: went like I would have eaten a hospital food. I
Speaker 1: just wanted one night where I didn't have four kids
Speaker 1: needing me. Uh. Yes, we ran a series of tests.
Speaker 1: You seem just fine. You're welcome to do it again.
Speaker 1: Take somewhere, give me, give me. We ran in the
Speaker 1: blood work, we did the x rays. I don't see anything.
Speaker 1: If you just say I got back pain like, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna leave you. We're gonna keep you
Speaker 1: overnight for observation. Thank you, thank you. Do you want
Speaker 1: to keep me as second night for observation? No, I
Speaker 1: think we're going to release you. Let's take a break,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll give you our best and worst
Speaker 1: of the weekend your phone calls and no hitter etiquette
Speaker 1: a seven inning game where you throw a no hitter, Well,
Speaker 1: you don't allow any hits, but it's not a no hitter.
Speaker 1: We'll discuss the magic of Madison Bumgardner and baseball rules stats.
Speaker 1: That'll be coming up, and Alex Smith will join us
Speaker 1: coming up next hour. And now that he has retired,
Speaker 1: he did think about going to Jacksonville and backing up
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. We'll talk to him about that as well.
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Speaker 1: on track the Kentucky Derby back on the first Saturday
Speaker 1: in May, the one hundred forty seventh run for the
Speaker 1: Roses Saturday two thirty on NBC. Thank you for the
Speaker 1: sound effects there, Paul, Wait, what's it sound like when
Speaker 1: horses are running at Whoa and you're taking me there?
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm taking you magically to Churchill Downs.
Speaker 1: You can't tell the difference? No, I couldn't. I could.
Speaker 1: We should go to that sometime I have. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. How much pressure is it to
Speaker 1: dress well? When I went, I didn't have any money,
Speaker 1: so it was there was no pressure whatsoever, Like I
Speaker 1: did you know everybody has to have a hat in
Speaker 1: a suit and it you know, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: big deal, Like it's It's almost like it's a it's
Speaker 1: a big party and they have a couple of horse races.
Speaker 1: That's it. But it's a big deal, big deal. We
Speaker 1: should do that sometime. I've done it. Yeah, we should
Speaker 1: do it again. Oh okay. I would think that NBC
Speaker 1: would love to have some heavy hitters like us there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I really promote the brand. I mean us
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Speaker 1: morning to chat Row. In a while since I've given
Speaker 1: a shout out to chat Row, a couple of phone
Speaker 1: calls here Barry in South Carolina Berry, best and worst
Speaker 1: of the weekend, Big, good morning, Dan, thanks for taking
Speaker 1: my call. Sure. Best of the weekend is Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a zip code he can't shoot
Speaker 1: from in California. I mean his shot selection last night
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Worse the weekend, the no hitter that didn't
Speaker 1: count because the only game only went seven innings. I
Speaker 1: don't find that to be a real legeneral reason not
Speaker 1: to county a no hitter. So, and then I want
Speaker 1: to say, hey, congratulations to Jack and your new family member.
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of meeting Jack at our Ohiose
Speaker 1: State Michigan Too gate party two weeks or two years
Speaker 1: ago with you guys, and that was awesome. And then
Speaker 1: just one quick question. Anybody going to post a picture
Speaker 1: of your RS any time soon? By chance? Anybody going
Speaker 1: to post a picture of my what you'r? RS? Nine
Speaker 1: eleven RS? Oh? Oh um, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: I just have my cars, but I haven't put pictures
Speaker 1: out there of my my nine eleventh. I have a
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy and a nineteen eighty nine. Now, remember when
Speaker 1: I was getting the seventy three RS redone the paint job, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the person who was doing the project decided that they
Speaker 1: wanted to keep the car. They gave me my money
Speaker 1: back because he said, on second thought, I want to
Speaker 1: keep it. So he was redoing it, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: buy it from him? Yeah, and it was agreed upon. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't both parties have to decide to do that once
Speaker 1: it's an agreed upon Well there was no contract, just
Speaker 1: see an audible person. Well, uh, he loved the car.
Speaker 1: They loved the color that a stone gray stone gray. Yeah,
Speaker 1: missed out on that one, but put in a lot
Speaker 1: of time, you know, during a pandemic, and you go,
Speaker 1: what am I going to do during a pandemic? You know,
Speaker 1: redo a car and be able to go watch somebody
Speaker 1: do it. I thought I was in great shape. There
Speaker 1: was no you know, no time frame, you just do it.
Speaker 1: I got a year, who knows how long this is
Speaker 1: gonna go. And then all of a sudden he's like,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is working out. Then I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep the car. I said, okay, So it
Speaker 1: gave me. I put half up and then he gave
Speaker 1: me my money back. It should be like a penalty
Speaker 1: like I like sometimes like if you did if you
Speaker 1: didn't agree to do it, there'd take like the deposit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well sorry, yeah, I'm okay. Though, yes, Todd, you didn't
Speaker 1: go with a no backseas or anything like that, or
Speaker 1: pull something out of your childhood to fight this legally.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is I don't recommend this, but
Speaker 1: it did happen. This is a true story. I'm driving
Speaker 1: in today and I see a car in front of me,
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, it looks like Todd, but it
Speaker 1: looks like it's The car's been watched, it looked new.
Speaker 1: We all park in the same spot, so we pull
Speaker 1: in and then I look at the car and I go,
Speaker 1: that's Todd's car, but it looks like it's new. And
Speaker 1: you said you had an urge to give it a
Speaker 1: good bump. I was gonna horrible. I was gonna bump
Speaker 1: you at the light. And I thought, no, that's not
Speaker 1: Todd's car, because Todd's cars doesn't look good. It's never walked.
Speaker 1: You've had it for ten years, you never washed it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely had some filth. Todd went out and bought
Speaker 1: a new car so he didn't have to wash his
Speaker 1: old car. How lazy is that? I know it's not
Speaker 1: financially sound. We should just go for a car work
Speaker 1: for like twenty bucks. You gonna really finance or buy
Speaker 1: a whole new car just to not get a callar.
Speaker 1: You could have bought a car wash for what that
Speaker 1: car costs. You really really doesn't make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense if you think about it. Yeah, see, I thought
Speaker 1: it was a loaner. Yeah, but that's exciting getting the
Speaker 1: new cars excited. I had it for about seven eight years.
Speaker 1: I had like almost two hundred thousand miles on it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't have to wash it for
Speaker 1: a little while yet, So let's h are you going
Speaker 1: to wash this car? I will, Okay, maybe not as
Speaker 1: regularly as normal person. You you know, you can go
Speaker 1: through a car wash. You don't have to wash it.
Speaker 1: You just go through it. Actually bring it to a
Speaker 1: place and they like a machine. Somebody does it. You
Speaker 1: ain't get out of your car, like when you're a
Speaker 1: kid and you're sitting there and you watch it all go,
Speaker 1: the bubbles and everything. That's kind of fun. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: do that. Thank you, Todd. Congratulations on your new car.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Brian in California, Hi Brian, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Best and worst of the weekend was trout
Speaker 1: fishing up at the June Loop. Trout opener on Saturday
Speaker 1: was just money. I have a solution for your crying episode.
Speaker 1: It's it's one of the most classic examples for fathers
Speaker 1: that are in that moment, and I think you can
Speaker 1: get away with it by saying you know, I got
Speaker 1: the bill and I started crying about the bill, but
Speaker 1: I had a quick question about my Steelers, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to get your opinion on Ben Roethlisberger's last season,
Speaker 1: because everybody's jumping on the bandwagon saying he's done. But
Speaker 1: the Steelers running game was thirty second in the league
Speaker 1: and they led the league and dropped passes. Now I
Speaker 1: want to I want to get your honest to Penny
Speaker 1: if you think you've got one year left, and I'll
Speaker 1: listen to the results. Yes, I wasn't gonna deep do
Speaker 1: a deep dive on the Steelers today, but you know, Brian,
Speaker 1: for you, yeah, this should be Ben's last year. I
Speaker 1: thought they were going to trade for Sam Darnold, but
Speaker 1: you know, now you gotta started think Daniel Mason Rudolph
Speaker 1: is not the future. Duc Devlin, like you gotta now
Speaker 1: start thinking about who is our quarterback of the future.
Speaker 1: And when is that future? When do you start thinking
Speaker 1: about that quarterback? Yeah, mcclub, I want to jump on
Speaker 1: the Steelers bandwagon early. I even put a pie bat
Speaker 1: on them. Did not not be like a super Bowl team,
Speaker 1: but to make the playoffs. They started out eleven and
Speaker 1: oh last year. No, but they are the most written
Speaker 1: off team. People are talking about them like they're a
Speaker 1: three and thirteen team. And the only reason I'm saying
Speaker 1: that it's because remember all those years, every time you
Speaker 1: count out the Steelers, they bounced back randomly and like
Speaker 1: have a great year. That's the only That's my only logic.
Speaker 1: There's no like a depth chart breakdown. By the way,
Speaker 1: I think the teams that had the best offseasons Tampa
Speaker 1: they kept everybody together, and Kansas City rebuilt their offensive line.
Speaker 1: They made a trade with the Ravens to get Orlando Brown,
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl tackle. What I didn't understand is if
Speaker 1: I'm the Ravens, why am I trading and helping Kansas City?
Speaker 1: And I know that you weren't going to keep Orlando Brown,
Speaker 1: but you made this trade, and I kept thinking, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you got a lot in return, but you've made
Speaker 1: Kansas City Kansas City again, because that's their only flaw
Speaker 1: is that offensive line, and you help them, and that's
Speaker 1: the team that you are measuring yourself. You're competing and
Speaker 1: maybe this is the best offer. But and it had
Speaker 1: to be, I guess because Kansas City had to make
Speaker 1: an offer that the Ravens couldn't refuse. Yeah, seed by
Speaker 1: the way, trout fishing. But the June Loop. That lake
Speaker 1: is one of the most beautiful places in the world.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even seem like it's real. Where is it.
Speaker 1: It looks it's in Sierra Nevadas, I want to say,
Speaker 1: like California, and it is. It's a gorgeous, absolutely beautiful place.
Speaker 1: It looks like it's a painting, like you can you
Speaker 1: couldn't even believe it's real place. We should go there.
Speaker 1: And the Kentucky Derby. Let's go there and the Kentucky Derby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are two places I think we should all go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But then Paulie wants to spend a weekend in London
Speaker 1: and we go to a couple of Premier League dude, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: let's go. If they joined this, you know, the Super League,
Speaker 1: then I would have gone. You know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go just see this kind of stuff, regular old football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in on all these trips. No one's tannin London.
Speaker 1: It's my kind of talent. In fact, I do the show.
Speaker 1: If you want to move the whole shebang, there always
Speaker 1: overcast perfect Oh wait about that Ravens trade. Is it
Speaker 1: possible the Ravens know something about that guy that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs don't. That's what I would worry. No, wait, like injury,
Speaker 1: that he's not as good, like they were covering up
Speaker 1: for something. You know, he was a third round pick.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's a guarantee super hit. He's under
Speaker 1: contract and he's got two Pro Bowls. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like the Ravens are one of those smart
Speaker 1: sneaky teams where guys leave the Ravens that are terrible
Speaker 1: and wherever they go afterwards. Well, I think the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are looking at this saying, how do we win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year? Well? The thing the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: very smart team too. It's like two smart teams trading. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's certain teams, certain gems where you go Nope, not
Speaker 1: gonna like Jerry West when he was with the Lakers,
Speaker 1: Like there is. If I'm gonna get a call from
Speaker 1: Jerry West, I'm like, no, no, tell him I'm not here,
Speaker 1: because you know it's probably not going to go. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the club. Right. If they had traded Orlando Brown
Speaker 1: to the Jets in the off season, he'd be like
Speaker 1: Oh they just flee SI Yet that's true. Did you
Speaker 1: see where Genie Buss, Lakers owner came out and she
Speaker 1: gave her top five Lakers of all time? Did you
Speaker 1: see this? I don't know the order if you google it.
Speaker 1: Let me take a break because I want to talk
Speaker 1: about this. And there is there's one person who is
Speaker 1: the most important person probably enfranchise history, and he is
Speaker 1: totally forgotten. But I'll talk about that. You know, Genie
Speaker 1: at her top five most important or influential or whatever
Speaker 1: the topic was, and I want to bring something to
Speaker 1: your attention. We'll take a break. We'll also talk about
Speaker 1: did Madison Bumgardner throw a no hitter? I have that
Speaker 1: for you coming up after this. Thanks for listening to
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us
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Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Hey, I'm John Middlecoff and
Speaker 1: I host the Three and Out podcast. Do you like football?
Speaker 1: Do you like the NFL? Do you like the NFL draft? Quarterbacks? Coaches? Well,
Speaker 1: I talk about it all on the show. I used
Speaker 1: to work for Andy Reid as a scout. Now I
Speaker 1: give you my unfiltered and raw opinions on everything that
Speaker 1: goes on the NFL. And you know, we're talking college
Speaker 1: football because of how important the draft is year round.
Speaker 1: Listen to the three and Out podcast with me. I'm
Speaker 1: middle cop on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. I'll take a victory lap. I've
Speaker 1: said it before out loud when watching a movie three
Speaker 1: times Renee Zell Wigger when she was portraying Judy Garland.
Speaker 1: I'm watching a scene at the very end of the
Speaker 1: movie and I turned to my wife, I said, she
Speaker 1: just won the Academy Award. And Christoph Voltz he was
Speaker 1: in Inglorious Bastards and that's at the beginning of the movie,
Speaker 1: and I said to my wife, he just won the
Speaker 1: Academy Award. And we were watching nomad Land with Francis McDorman,
Speaker 1: and I said to my wife, she just won the
Speaker 1: Academy Award. All three won the Academy Award. I'll take
Speaker 1: a victory lap there. It was kind of a bizarre
Speaker 1: setting there at the Academy Awards. You know, with social
Speaker 1: distancing and you had a few tables there. The camera
Speaker 1: work was it was interesting, although there was this moment
Speaker 1: where they were introducing a table and it wasn't the
Speaker 1: right table that they were introducing, and here are the
Speaker 1: people with this movie. And it turns out it was
Speaker 1: that those people are like, going, that's not us. They
Speaker 1: were on camera, You're like, and then they went to
Speaker 1: the next person or next table in the category. They
Speaker 1: had to go back to the table that they were
Speaker 1: just showing. And then those people are like, yes, that's us,
Speaker 1: you know, all right, a couple of things here, this
Speaker 1: is making making the rounds here. I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 1: The owner of the Lakers, Genie Buss, is drawing a
Speaker 1: little bit of heat because she pointed out her five
Speaker 1: most important Lakers. Now she was on the podcast All
Speaker 1: the Smoke. That's a podcast with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson.
Speaker 1: Now it's not like she had time to think about this,
Speaker 1: and it's not easy to sum up the Lakers with
Speaker 1: the five most important influential people. So important, she asked
Speaker 1: for clarification of the word important. She started with Kareem,
Speaker 1: Kobe and Lebron and then on a prompt she said, oh,
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson of course has to be number one.
Speaker 1: And then she was trying to find the last person
Speaker 1: and she landed on Phil Jackson. These two were once engaged.
Speaker 1: They called it quitch back in twenty sixteen. Now the
Speaker 1: site labeled it most Important Players, which people thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: Jerry West isn't on there, Shack isn't on there. But
Speaker 1: the one person who should absolutely be on there is
Speaker 1: one of the more forgotten players in the history of sports,
Speaker 1: and that's Elgin Baylor. Elgin Baylor was the first black
Speaker 1: star in the NBA. He was before Bill Russell, he
Speaker 1: was before Wilt Chamberlain. Nobody had ever seen an athlete
Speaker 1: like this, no one, And he could put up twenty
Speaker 1: five and fifteen. But he missed the TV era he
Speaker 1: had injured his knee. He wasn't there for the nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy two Lakers that won thirty three in a row.
Speaker 1: And they waited so long to put a statue up
Speaker 1: of Elgin Baylor. And I am a producer of a
Speaker 1: podcast called Westward and it's about Los Angeles basketball with
Speaker 1: the Clippers and the Lakers, and we just did a
Speaker 1: podcast an episode last week on Elgin Baylor. In fact,
Speaker 1: it's coming out on Elgin Baylor and he died five
Speaker 1: weeks ago. It is a great podcast, not because I'm
Speaker 1: involved in it. The people who are involved and have
Speaker 1: done a wonderful job. And they did the last interview
Speaker 1: Elgin Baylor ever did, and it's called Westward, and the
Speaker 1: next episode will be on Jerry West. But it talks
Speaker 1: about basketball coming to Los Angeles. Well Elgin Baylor. Without
Speaker 1: Elgin Baylor, you don't have the Lakers in LA in
Speaker 1: my opinion. But you know, in fairness to Jeanie, it's
Speaker 1: not like she had time to be thinking about this.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure in retrospect, you know, you might go,
Speaker 1: would I put Phil Jackson in there? What about her dad?
Speaker 1: But Jerry West should be in there. Phil Jackson over
Speaker 1: Jerry West, and those two didn't get along reportedly, so
Speaker 1: I would think that the logo should be in there. Yes, mcclub,
Speaker 1: I mean, pat Riley's gotta be over Phil Jackson, right
Speaker 1: because he was first, you would think. But it felt
Speaker 1: like Riley created a brand like that Magic and Ryles
Speaker 1: created Showtime. Although you can say Paul Westhead helped create Showtime,
Speaker 1: it doesn't get enough credit it there. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a this is a whole thirty for thirty. It
Speaker 1: feels like when you start thinking, you know, who's the
Speaker 1: most influential, who's the most important players, I'd start with
Speaker 1: Elgin Baylor and you go back and look at what
Speaker 1: happened when he first got to the league. He couldn't
Speaker 1: stay at the same hotel as you know, the other
Speaker 1: members of the Lakers, the white players. He sat out
Speaker 1: a game just because he said, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be a part of this. And
Speaker 1: you know, the NBA was upset about that with Elgin Baylor,
Speaker 1: but he took a stand. He was courageous, he was
Speaker 1: Jerry West said, without Elgin Baylor, I wouldn't become who
Speaker 1: I became. And then Elgin went to the Clippers. He
Speaker 1: was the GM and we always, I think people of
Speaker 1: a certain era thought of Elgin Baylor as a punchline,
Speaker 1: like he would be there at the lottery every single year.
Speaker 1: And if you're under the age of forty five, then
Speaker 1: you probably say, oh, yeah, that was the guy who
Speaker 1: represented the Clippers. But he was so influential as a
Speaker 1: basketball player. And this once again before Wilt, before Oscar.
Speaker 1: Before Bill Russell was el Jim Baylor, and I think
Speaker 1: he's maybe the most forgotten star in NBA history. What
Speaker 1: he meant when he meant it, And you know, basketball
Speaker 1: in LA was not popular, not successful. Abe Sapperstein, who
Speaker 1: ran the Harlem Globetrotters, wanted to put a basketball franchise
Speaker 1: in there and started the the ABL, the American Basketball
Speaker 1: the LA Jets, and the NBA said we're not going
Speaker 1: to put a team in LA because the travel. You know,
Speaker 1: you're playing everybody, you know east of Saint Louis, and
Speaker 1: they just said it doesn't make sense with travel. The
Speaker 1: Lakers traveled more than any other team probably in history,
Speaker 1: and they were traveling commercial back then. But Elgin and
Speaker 1: what he meant to Los Angeles. Then they drafted Jerry West.
Speaker 1: Jerry West was going to play the Cleveland Pipers of
Speaker 1: the ABL. I believe the ABL George Steinbrenner was the owner,
Speaker 1: and George wanted to draft Jerry West, and Jerry wanted
Speaker 1: to play against the best, so he went to the
Speaker 1: LA Lakers. But look, Genie didn't get a lot of
Speaker 1: time on this, but you know, you're looking at the
Speaker 1: Lakers and it would be hard to pare it down
Speaker 1: of the five most important. Genie also discussed there's a
Speaker 1: docuse series about the Lakers in the works, and her
Speaker 1: dad purchased the team back in nineteen seventy nine. But
Speaker 1: then you got what's happening with HBO with the Lakers
Speaker 1: with that scripted series. Yes, McLevin Will had five years
Speaker 1: of the Lakers, and Lebron's on your three. I can't
Speaker 1: have Lebron in there. Yeah, Lebron shouldn't be in there.
Speaker 1: Will will lose end a career. That's not even a consideration.
Speaker 1: As I mean, Lebron's very important now. But I'm talking
Speaker 1: about what the team was struggling and what Elgin did
Speaker 1: and Jerry did back then, and you had the rivalry
Speaker 1: with the Celtics and the Lakers. I mean that helps
Speaker 1: say basketball. You had the Knicks, the Celtics, Lakers. You
Speaker 1: can throw in the seventy sixers, but I mean that
Speaker 1: was basketball. But the podcast is Westward and it's really
Speaker 1: really well done. All Right, we'll take a break. Two
Speaker 1: hours in the books, one more to go, looking forward
Speaker 1: to talking to Alex Smith. He has now announced his
Speaker 1: retirement and coming up in about ten minutes we'll talk
Speaker 1: about Madison Mumgardner. Did he throw a no hitter? He
Speaker 1: went seven innings, didn't allow a hit,