1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. As always, thank you 3 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: for tuning in. Previously on Ridiculous History, I'm getting what happened? 4 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: What happened? I just wanted to do that voice because 5 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: I love that kind of vo and I never I 6 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: never get to do it except for weird ads. But 7 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: you're right, this is something where we have a slight recap. 8 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: We dove into an amazing story with our pale Matt Waxman, 9 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: the creator of Trigger Ration. You remember this though it 10 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: was it was Tuesday. Thanks to the magic of editing, 11 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: it seems like it was only Tuesday. Way it was Tuesday. No, 12 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: it's true, and it was really great and it wasn't 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: something that were maybe it's gonna throw in as a 14 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: little bit of in the side. Um after discussing really, uh, 15 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: such an interesting and divisive character. Again, I came clean 16 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: early on. It's not being like a sports guy. Um, 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: But man, do I love a good scandal and a 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: good sex addic story and this has got all that stuff. 19 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: Man and he and that now we're gonna add in 20 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: copy is drinking. We barely even scratched the surface of 21 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: the man's epic ability to throw back Miller lights. I 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: think we might have hinted at it very briefly, but 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: that is literally what today's episode is about, right, Miller Light, 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: You're so good you can drink it with your mouth? Boy, 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: did he ever drink it with his whole mouth and 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: his whole heart? And Uh, just to reiterate, Miller Light, 27 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: you're welcome for that catch phrase. Please use it to 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: your heart's content. That catchphrase has been co signed and 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: green light by our super producer, Casey Pegram. And when 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: we were doing this episode, this exploration of this sex 31 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: scandal and the halcy young days of sports reporting, we 32 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: knew we could not dive into the endeavor alone. That's 33 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: why we have our returning guest Matt Waxman, who, by 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: the way, I sat patiently through this entire episode. Uh, Matt, 35 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: how's it going, Thanks for staying with us, No, no problem, 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: It's it's good to be on the show. Good to 37 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: be back on the show. I mean again, like this guy, 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: Wade Boggs is a total legend. And since we last talked, 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: I actually went back and research and found more about 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: him that we need to touch on. So we're gonna 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: hit the beer and stuff. But this guy also saved 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: some African villagers back in two thousand and five, so well, 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: let's hit it all, okay, I I think we start 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: with the uh, the inebriated elephant in the room. Wade 45 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: Boggs is a drinking legend, and there is a an 46 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: urban legend, perhaps a bit of modern mythology, about a 47 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: a particularly boozy plane flight he took. Matt, could you 48 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: give us just the quicken dirty of this? Like, what 49 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: what's the gist of the story? All right? So I 50 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: think we we we placed this story around the early nineties, 51 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: and rumor had it that bugs drank a copious amount 52 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: of beer. One I'm in a cross country flight after 53 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: a game, and the number very I mean, first there 54 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: was a number in the sixties. Then the number grew 55 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: a little more than people that went to bugs, he 56 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of hemmed in hod and then later on on 57 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: it's always sunny. It turned out he told Charlie Dave 58 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: there's an official number. The number is a hundred and 59 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: seven and that's how many beers he drank in one 60 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: cross country plight. Okay, that first off, how do you 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: get more than three or four drinks. That can't be 62 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: a commercial flight, can it. Now we're talking, definitely talking 63 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: charter flight. I mean the socks back in these days 64 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: flying their own charter And I think I think Bogs 65 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: plays with the math a little. I mean a lot 66 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: of people have looked at how this is even possible, 67 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: and I think we should really, you know, sharpen our 68 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: pencils and try and figure this out. So let's no, 69 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: you gotta do you have a Pencilvania, you know I do. 70 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: I've got like a sharp pair of scissors. I can 71 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: scrawl it into the surface of my desk. I'm gonna 72 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, perfect, all right, all right, So let's 73 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: try and figure this out. All right, So we need 74 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: to get to A hundred and seven. I assume he's 75 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: going in to l A X from Boston. So after 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: the game, you know, that's when you're most thirsty. Locker 77 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: room back then, all the guys were drinking beer in 78 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: the locker room at the game. So I say, were easy. 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: He puts away at twelve pack after the game, million 80 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: around there, got it? Got it? Okay? So then bus 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: ride from Fenway to Logan Airport, that's easy. Six beers. 82 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I imagine that late at night. They're probably 83 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: going at midnight. I'd say that's like a you know, 84 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: a third thirty minute trips. I'd say six beers there. 85 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Then you know they're waiting to board the flight. You 86 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: don't just walk right on. You gotta deal with the 87 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: little security all that. I think we can put him 88 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: down four in that thirty minutes. Maybe he's I'd say, 89 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, give him another twelve pack there. This 90 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: is also like in the housey on, like pre nine 91 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: eleven days, or you could easily waltz through security with 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: like a couple of beers in hand, right, No, no 93 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: problem there. Yeah. I think if you're way bus, you 94 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: do whatever the f you want. Probably so, And one 95 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: little quick question is to backtrack. So if you're in like, uh, 96 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, a tour van or like a sports you know, 97 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: like passenger type van like that, Um is the laws 98 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: of open containers not apply or these people just they 99 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: just don't care, They just flo out the laws. I 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: think I think the laws do apply, except if you're 101 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: the greatest hitter on the planet, and then you do 102 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: again whatever you want, Like I don't think wade bugs 103 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: is like oh, fifty to speed limit like people are 104 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: at least when they pull you over, pull you over 105 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: for your autograph, not to give you a ticket exactly. 106 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: And I get I think Wade Bugs is basically a 107 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: cup So I think Wade bus kind of can do 108 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: whatever he wants and just for just for really quickly. 109 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: It's for a context to prove your hypothesis here, Matt, 110 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: I did find a quote from a guy named Jeff Nelson, 111 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: Um who I believe was one of his teammates, and 112 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: he said Bogs was always the first player to the clubhouse. 113 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: He would bring a six pack with them. He'd be 114 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: there drinking a beer when someone showed up, and as 115 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: we were all packing our stuff up out of our 116 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: lockers and getting our bags ready for the trip, Wade 117 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: would sit there and drink that whole six back. Um 118 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: that this is just like sort of was basically par 119 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: for the course for Wade Bogs. Right, Yeah, we we 120 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit previously. I think I 121 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: don't remember if it made to air. But Jeff Nelson 122 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: is a former relief pitcher. You can read his comments 123 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: about Bogs on some excellent Esquire articles, and he says 124 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: it was absolutely normal for bogs to drink. I think 125 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: he said fifty or sixty beers on a single flight, 126 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: So that doesn't get us to the hundred and seven number. 127 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: But right now, for everyone listening along at home, we're 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: already at thirty and they're not on the plane. So 129 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: knowing that, you know, in general, bugs would drink like 130 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: plus or minus twelve beers, you know, in a right 131 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: after the game, before we even leaving the clubhouse. Can 132 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: we start back from there? Uh, Matt, I just kind 133 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: of lost track, and I want to make sure I've 134 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: got my tally right. They counted thirty twelve and then 135 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: six and then twelve right, perfect, perfect, Okay, So then 136 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: you know they get on the flight, they got to 137 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: do the whole security briefing. I think he's easy putting 138 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: another six pack away there. I mean, I don't think 139 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: there's any question. And we've got six before the plane 140 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: even is in the air. Perfect thirty six already. This is, 141 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: by the way, most people. I am not a doctor, 142 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm not like a booze surgeon or whatever, but I'm 143 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: pretty sure thirty six beers will put the uh, the 144 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: average mortal man down for the counts, right, And these 145 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: are not tall boys. These are like your typical twelve 146 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: ounce pull tap cans right definitely at twelve ats B. 147 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: I think if we went tall boys, then all of 148 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, our math gets real screwy. So let's go 149 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: with the twelve ounce beer. And then the real math 150 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: question is flight cross country. Look at five and a 151 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: half hours, let's make it six hours, just to make 152 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: the math as easy as possible. How many beers can 153 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: a living legend like Wade Bugs consume? I mean, at 154 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: this point he's really cruising himself, and so I think 155 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: he's really I would put him down for I'd say 156 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: nine beers an hour would be that seems realistic to 157 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: me at this point. Yeah, nine beers an hour seems reasonable. 158 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't seem reasonable, but well I don't. 159 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: I think I, as a mere mortal, could probably do 160 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: four beers in it, you know, maybe, but that's probably 161 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: pushing it for me. Even so nine is on the 162 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: is on the the edge of epic. I would say, 163 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: like twelve would be just like godlike and completely unrealistic, 164 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: but nine, I'm like him that Yeah, okay, so I'm 165 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing some lazy math here, I know, uh, I 166 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: know if it's a if we call it six hours, 167 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: it's like a five hour or forty even of flight 168 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: or something. And then just to make the math work. 169 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: From what Nelson said, it sounds spot on. It sounds impossible. 170 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: Like the only way I could drink nine beers an 171 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: hour on a plane, I'm gonna be super honest with you, guys. 172 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: I could only do it if I was sitting on 173 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: the toilet where I was drinking them in the bathroom, 174 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't have to keep getting up and walking. 175 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we except we except nine. And 176 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: I like the phrase edge of epic, And I also 177 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: think the one thing we we've got to consider is, 178 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, even though we weren't there and we haven't 179 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: heard this, you know, he boarded the plane holding two 180 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: thirty packs, and you just can see him doing that. 181 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: So you can see him walking up the stairs to 182 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: the plane. You can see him sitting down and having 183 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: the three seats. He sits in the middle. He puts 184 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: one thirty on his right, one thirty in its left, 185 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: and he says, this is my mission. So like we 186 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: kind of know this is true, even though we don't 187 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: know this is true. Well, I have to say. I 188 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: love the unapologetic nature of this man's beer consumption too. 189 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem concerned at all, you know, being like 190 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: someone in the public guy who's intentionally like, you know, 191 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: a role model for like kids and stuff. But it's 192 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: very clearly just flaunting his uh, his excessive drinking, almost 193 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: like a superpower. I gotta give the guy props for 194 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: that kind of moxie. Yeah, and I think Wade Bugs 195 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 1: has been called a lot of things. Role model is 196 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: probably the one thing I don't know about. I mean, 197 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: role model for functional alcoholics maybe, But no shade to 198 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: the man, because we're we're looking at the nuts and 199 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: bolts of this. We're we're we're solving the mystery here 200 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: with your help, Matt. So, if I've got my counts correct, 201 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: then six hours nine beers an hour, that's fifty four 202 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: beers just on the plane. Just how on earth is 203 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: that possible? It seems impossible, it really does. But again, 204 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: you're trying to put yourself in Wade Boggs's place, and 205 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: that's like saying, like, why don't you have three thousand hits, 206 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Like it's just not right for you to picture yourself 207 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: doing this stuff. There's a different guy. Yeah, I think 208 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: I've got maybe the wrong mistress. I don't know. I 209 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: was looking at my stats after we recorded the first episode. Alright, 210 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: so we the plane lands, and then you know, Bogs 211 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: is looking we we He cranks fifty four, so he's 212 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: got six left, so I think he's hitting those last 213 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: six as the plane is basically taxiing, so just to 214 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: finish off the two thirties. That gets rid of all 215 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: the beers. He no longer has to deal with any 216 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: of this stuff. So he's got, uh, I've lost the jacks, Casey, 217 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: I'll let you jump in here. Yeah, you guys, we're 218 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: at right now. Okay, okay, we're getting there. Boy, we're 219 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: so at this point, what is he like? Are they 220 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: are there taxing? Are they about to descend this? Because 221 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: he's not really necessarily like shooting for a number, he's 222 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: not trying to beat a record or anything. He just 223 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: organically got there, And I think that's right. I think 224 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,239 Speaker 1: he's just trying to get through these two thirty recks. 225 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: He's got six left. He polishes off those last six, 226 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: and then they get off the plane, but they're not 227 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: yet to their destination, right, that's right, he still has 228 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: the bus ride to go from l A X to 229 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: the team hotel. Now I'm picturing he's got he gets 230 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: it one last twelve pack for that ride, and he's 231 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: really I assume he's, you know, he's not seeing great 232 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: at this point. I think his goal is to hit 233 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: these last twelve beers to get to one oh eight. 234 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: But I think he realizes he's starting to slow down 235 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: a little. So I'm giving him eleven of those final 236 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: twelve and he just can't finish the whole thing off 237 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: because it's the problem is it's too much beerre So 238 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: I think he's one short there. I think that number 239 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: if my math is correct, and you you you tell me, 240 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: but I've got that being exactly the one oh seven number, 241 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: which which bogs has claimed. And I think that this 242 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: all makes a lot of sense to me. Um. And 243 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: then one other thing we need to consider is in 244 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: the last episode we mentioned that Boggs is very superstitious, 245 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: was obsessed with the number seven. So I think when 246 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: he got to one oh seven, he said, you know what, 247 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: that's the perfect time to stop. I probably could go further, 248 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: but let's end it here because one oh seven is 249 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: just such an important number for me. I love that. 250 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: I love that because I was thinking a similar thing 251 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: to me. There's something so poetic about the beer un drank, 252 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: the single beer left. I was wondering, like, I like, 253 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: I like your argument about one or seven, because in 254 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: my head, I was thinking maybe he saved it for 255 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: after the game. He was like one cold win for 256 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: after the game. But that doesn't make sense because he 257 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: clearly has all the beer he wants forever. He would 258 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: just have someone give him a thirty back, right, Yeah, 259 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think at that point, 260 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: like the ball boys were signing Bogs autographs, at that point, 261 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: they were getting his beer. They were dealing with like 262 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: all sorts of various mistresses, and there's no cell phones 263 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: at this point, so I imagine these mistresses are calling 264 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, land lines that are getting 265 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: relayed to bugs. So at this point, like he can 266 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: get whatever he wants. You know, it's funny. I also 267 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: was one ring about that aspect of it, because I 268 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: love the imagy paint of him, like lugging these thirty packs, 269 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: like you know, on on each shoulder, going up the 270 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: little ramp onto the charter plane. But I gotta wonder too, 271 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think he had to bring his 272 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: own or or was this just a known thing that 273 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: like they had to have this on hand. They had 274 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: to have enough beers for him to just you know, 275 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: drink his fill. I I gotta think like socks charters 276 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: at that point, like they just would just overstock them 277 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: knowing that Boggs was coming, Like you just like got 278 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: rid of all the coffee, You got rid of all 279 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: the bottled water, all the sprite, all the all the 280 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: first aid kits, you know, every parachutes and so like 281 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: where they normally would be like a big inflatable slide 282 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: in a plane that was just like stuffed with beer 283 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: because way coming. No, that makes sense to me. There's 284 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: probably also something like a writer too. I mean, given 285 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: his success, I'm sure that they had like a bevy 286 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: of things that they were expected to give him, beer 287 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: being number one, but I'm sure they were like specific 288 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: snacks maybe other Oh chicken obviously right, he's not gonna 289 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: go get his own chicken. Could you kind of paint 290 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: a picture for us, Matt about exactly how valuable a 291 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: player he was, Like how above and beyond like he 292 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: delivered for this team and how he would have been 293 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: treated like in like royalty. Well, that's the funny thing, 294 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: is like we're we're talking about this sort of urban 295 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: legend and that is supposedly true, but like this is 296 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: all overshadowed what a great baseball player Bogs was. Like 297 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: that it's true, We're we're kind of burying the lead here. 298 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: Wade Boggs was one of the great contact hitters of 299 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: all time. I mean, just as a batting average hitter, 300 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: he was incredible, almost without Pierre Tony Gwynn, the only 301 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: guy who was sort of even close. And if you 302 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: were to pick one guy who was going to hit 303 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: four hundred for a season, you would have guessed back 304 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: then Wade Bugs and Bogs was like he would go 305 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: like a whole season with swinging and missing like a 306 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: handful of times, like things that we've got normal guys 307 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: doing a game. You know, I swung and missed four 308 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: times in that game, game or whatever. Boggs could go 309 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: like a whole season with that kind of number. So 310 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: this was a player that like was one of the 311 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: all time greats, even though we don't really think of 312 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: him as an all time great for many reasons. Um 313 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: also way. Bogs was totally obsessed with his own stats, 314 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: as we mentioned in the last episode, and that really 315 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: bothered a lot of people because it was like, if 316 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: there was a guy on first, Boggs would try and 317 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: hit a single rather than Oh, we need a home 318 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: run or a double for you to try and drive 319 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: that guy at home, and Bogs will be like, I'm 320 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: trying to keep my batting average out. Um. So he 321 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: was great, but he you know, there was some some 322 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: dings on his resume as well as if like, is 323 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: that like he's not being a team player by doing 324 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: I got it, like he the back of his baseball 325 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: card was almost more important to Wade Boggs than the 326 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: win lost column for the team. That makes sense, I mean, 327 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting because I took some time to 328 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: look through Baseball Hall of Fame stuff about weight bugs, 329 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: and this guy is no joke, Like he's a monster. 330 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: And the part you're telling us, Matt, which I hadn't 331 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: heard before, about him being sort of selfish, more so 332 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: about his stats than about his team. It seems counter 333 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: to the idea of good sportsmanship in a team sport. 334 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: But there's no arguing that he got results. He had 335 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: two thousand, four d thirty two career games, and he 336 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: reached base easily of them, like the there I'm just 337 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: looking at his average. Uh, some of the stats that 338 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: you had given us earlier, like the point three to 339 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: eight batting average, point four one five on base percentage 340 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: like these are things other people can't do. Going back 341 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: to that idea of him getting pulled over and somehow 342 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: getting a citation for open container, the reason that's so 343 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: laughably implausible to me is that I bet that police 344 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: officer would have gotten on into a lot of trouble, 345 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: especially if he delayed Bogs performing in a game. You 346 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I do? I mean again, the 347 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: guy was for ten years, he hit over three hundred 348 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: and you know, Ted Williams was considered the greatest Red 349 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: Sox hitter without a doubt because he did it for 350 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: average and power. But Wave Bogs is I mean David 351 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: Ortiz again, Manny Ramirez didn't do it as long as bugs, 352 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: and they may hit for more power, but Wave Bugs is, 353 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: without a doubt, one of the four greatest hitters in 354 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: mid sexes. I have to point out something I found 355 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: in an article. Um I think it might have been 356 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: from that Maxim article you were talking Esquire article rather 357 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: that you were talking about ben But uh, there's a 358 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: question pose that we haven't really addressed as to like 359 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: how can someone drink that many beers and not have 360 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: a blood alcohol level that's like literally lethal? Right? Um? 361 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: And and the writer of this piece kind of goes 362 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: into the specifics about it, saying there were a lot 363 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: of skeptics saying this must be BS because you know, 364 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: to drink that many beers, your blood alcohol would be 365 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: so high that it would probably kill you, or you 366 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: would get so drunk before that point you would have 367 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: to stop. Um. But what isn't taken into account is 368 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: uh tolerance, pure and uttered tolerance of alcohol. And like 369 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: Bogs apparently you know, he was just drinking beer. That 370 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: was his thing. Like you don't even hear about him, like, 371 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, getting hammered on like liquor. He's just he's 372 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: a beer guy. I mean, I'm not saying he didn't, 373 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: but according to this, he was a hundred ninety seven 374 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: pounds cans of Miller light or twelve ounces and have 375 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: four point two percent alcohol. So he drank you know, 376 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: let's just say having this large tolerance that he has 377 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: developed for alcohol over the years. Um, it's really difficult, 378 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: they're saying, to actually make an estimate as to what 379 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: his blood alcohol level would be. And again maybe I'm like, 380 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: maybe this isn't even a good way of looking at it, 381 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: because how does tolerance affect like the actual way your 382 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: body processes booze? Like like I could saycond see you 383 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: could like get used to it more. But isn't it 384 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: no matter what's the same amount of alcohol in your system? 385 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: Right Ben? Yeah, that's correct. I mean, is Liver is 386 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: a superstar who has its own, uh storied career. I 387 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: would also advance there's one intervening variable we may have 388 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: not approached yet. It feels like over the span of 389 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: this infamous flight, at least one beer's worth of alcohol 390 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: was lost in the mustache. I mean, that thing doesn't quit. 391 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: That's true. I'm starting. I almost called it his ground game, 392 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: but his like his can game, had to get a 393 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: little sloppy, you know, probably around beer eighty and so 394 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: he's there's gonna be some spilla, there's gonna be Yeah, Well, 395 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think, Matt, I say, Well, 396 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: first of all, one of the grave mustaches of all 397 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: time but I would say also, you know, you start 398 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: to get like when you drink that much. You know, 399 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: we've all drank seventy eight beers. We haven't drink a 400 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: hundred and seven. But when you start to drink that much, 401 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: you finish like four fifths of a beer and then 402 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, next one, And so you can get 403 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: a little lack of daisical with really finishing off every 404 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: last drop of some So like I think of the 405 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: hundred and seven, if you can probably say like three 406 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: full beers of like backwash leftovers, maybe like the real 407 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: the real numbers one up four, because he was probably 408 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: also at the point where and no judgment here where 409 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: his short term memory or his attention to which beer 410 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: was the fresh one may have faltered a little bit. 411 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: And what do you guys think he did with all 412 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: the cans? Like he's thinking, yeah, is he is he 413 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: have trash bags? Or is the steward is just coming 414 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: over and just like with a trash bag and just 415 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: hauling off ten twelve at a time. Like what do 416 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: you guys think he's even doing with all these or 417 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: is he like, oh, it's so many cans? The recycle 418 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: money is enough that like I'll take keep them bring 419 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: him with me. I uh, you know it's funny. We 420 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: uh we did a story on another show about recycling 421 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna come out. I would say in this time, 422 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: in as you said, the early nineties, there was probably 423 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: instead of a bat boy, there was like a beer 424 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: boy or a can boy or something. He was on 425 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: the flight and her job was to stay out of 426 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: the flight attendant's way and just keep keep the cans 427 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: flowing like the spice and dune, you know what I mean, 428 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: bring because they're just walking at that point, they're just 429 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: walking to a seat with more beer and then walking 430 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: back to throw away the empties and then walking back 431 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: and he's done with the other beers. So you think 432 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: on LinkedIn there's like a guy who's like in his 433 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: like late forties that says, like to ninety three like 434 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: Red Sox can boy. Well, I mean, if Snoop Dogg 435 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: has a blunt roller, you know, then I don't know 436 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: why Wade Boggs can't have a canboy. That's all I'm saying. 437 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: He's earned it. You know. At this stage in researching 438 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 1: Wade Bugs, I found another story and if we have 439 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: tied one last Okay, so again, we've covered like so 440 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: many different things that this guy has done that made him, 441 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, a legend. Each one of these things alone 442 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: would make him a huge way Bugs of course, because 443 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: he's wade Bug starts to get into exotic animal hunting 444 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: and you know these the type all right, We've all 445 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: seen the type with the photos. Like, none of us 446 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: like this guy, but we all know that who this 447 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: person is and what their motivations. So Wave Bogs is 448 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: starting to get criticized for taking down all these elk 449 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: and you know, putting them all up in his living room, etcetera. 450 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: And he's like, no, no, no, guys, you don't understand, Like, 451 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: I didn't just take down these animals because I enjoyed 452 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: the sport of it. I got brought in because these 453 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: animals were terrorizing the village. He's like, this crocodile had 454 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: literally killed two kids, and I got brought in to 455 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: kill the crocodile. Now I'm not making this up. This 456 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: is in the seat St. Petersburg Times. There's a hippo 457 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: that had killed three villagers and their first phone call 458 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: when they were like, how do we kill this hippo? 459 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: Way Bugs? So like, yeah, so this is like, I mean, 460 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: every part of this guy is insane. I mean, the 461 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: least interesting part of Wade bogs Is life is the 462 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: fact that he's a Hall of Fame baseball player. Every 463 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: part of this is cartoonish in a way that makes 464 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: you think that he isn't a real person. And yet 465 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: he's just this fifty five year old guy now who 466 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: I assume lives in Florida and goes fishing a lett. 467 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: But he's a real person who does exist, I believe. 468 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: But if you told me all this stuff, I wouldn't 469 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: believe it. Well, there's a joke, a running joke in 470 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: the Always Sunny episode that they're doing this in Wade 471 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: Bogg's memory, because surely this man is has died, um 472 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: with with treating his body in this way and uh, 473 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: and Mac keeps reminding Charlie that no, man, Wade Boggs 474 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: is very much alive. And then there's a part at 475 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: the end where they're the whole point of the episode 476 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: is they're trying to beat Wade Boggs record, and they've 477 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: got like hash marks on their shirt for how many 478 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: beers they have, and they're on a commercial fly, which 479 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: makes it even more ridiculous. Uh. They eventually get cut off, 480 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: but on the way back, Charlie has like a vision 481 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: and he thinks it's Wade Bogg's ghosts uh. And then 482 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: Wade Bogg's ghost, which really dis hallucination, reminds Charlie that 483 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: he's very much alive. Uh, and I believe he remains 484 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: alive to this day. He talked to TMZ recently to 485 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: kind of clear up this whole How many beers was it? 486 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: And he didn't specifically reference to the cross country flight, 487 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: but they just asked him kind of point blank, like 488 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: what's the most beers you've drunk in a day? And 489 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: he goes, probably over a hundred and then and then 490 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: guy was like, how does one do this? Wade bugs 491 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: And he goes, I have a hollow leg. I just 492 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: drink it. It all runs down in there and then 493 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: I take it off and dump it out. Which is 494 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: is that a thing? Is that a do? Is that 495 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 1: a jokey old timey thing? People say, because I've never 496 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: heard that in my life, and that is a weird image. Yeah, 497 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: it's an old it's it's an old timey joke, drinking 498 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: like one has a hollow leg. I do want to 499 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: go back to the hunt, which I was not aware of. Uh. 500 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: The hippopotamus is the most dangerous land animal, most dangerous 501 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: land mammal for sure. So it's not like, um, regardless 502 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: of what your feelings are about hunting in general. Uh, 503 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: it's not as if hippos are the cute, cuddly ballerina's 504 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: they're depicted to be in Fantasia cartoons. These things are 505 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: no joke. They're dangerous. Well, Ben, I actually do need 506 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: to correct you there, because it's actually the second most 507 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: dangerous landman animal. The most dangerous is Wayne bugs Well 508 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: played playing the most dangerous game that is bits drinking. 509 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: So over the span of his we we found another 510 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: like superlative for him, right because over the span of 511 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: his time he killed like as a big game hunter, 512 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: he killed at least seventy eight game animals. Right. Yeah, 513 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: and then like had I believe like a trophy room 514 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: hunting lodge kind of situation and his home in Florida 515 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: real Teddy Roosevelt kind of character. You know, I like 516 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: that he's okay. So the entire time we've been doing 517 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: this series, I've been thinking of different appellations and monikers 518 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: and nicknames for the man himself, right, and I feel 519 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: like hippo hit man is one, Like he's the hippo 520 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: hip man, the hippo hit man, Wade Boggs. It's crazy 521 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: that he is alive. It's like we can go visit him. 522 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: And the other funny thing is like, because Wade Bugs 523 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: is not considered one of the all time grades, I 524 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: feel like we could, like it wouldn't be out of 525 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 1: the question for us to get Wade Bugs on, like 526 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: right now. We can make a few phone calls and 527 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: get him on, Like he's not a guy that that 528 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: there's too famous for the Ridiculous History podcast. I mean, 529 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, Casey, you need to do this right now, 530 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: but like it seems plausible that we could get Wade 531 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: Bugs on the next episode. Now. I think if I 532 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: think if we name drop you, that might go a 533 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: long way, Like Hey, we know Matt Waxman from Trickeration 534 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: and he'll be like, all right, just send the beer 535 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: and tell me what time to hop on the call. Guys, 536 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: there's a pretty problematic quote from Wade Boggs though, about 537 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: this whole hippo situation. The New York Post reported on 538 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: us and they they they actually quote um something he 539 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: said to the St. Peter Petersburg Times. He you know, 540 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: he starts off strong like, but it sounds like once 541 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: he gets to the end of this, it sounds like 542 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: he maybe had a few at this point because he 543 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: starts off like he's it's been braggadocious, but it's it's 544 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: on point. But then it takes a weird turn. He uh. 545 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: He says, the hippo had killed three villagers and the 546 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: crocodiles had killed two kids. So I was sort of 547 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: the great white hunter who came in and saved the village. 548 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, it's like the whole white savior thing, 549 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: like I was the great white hunter that came in. 550 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: It's just a little cringe e That's all I'm saying. 551 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it was a little self 552 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: aggrandizing and sort of a weird like white point. Why 553 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: why bring race into it at all? It was a 554 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: little strange, but yeah, strange man. He also said, you know, 555 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: he obviously was not or is not because he is 556 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: still alive. Sorry, Charlie. Uh. He was obviously not a 557 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: big fan of animal rights activists. I think later this 558 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: maybe from the St. Petersburg interview, but later he goes 559 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: on when someone asked him about the criticism he's receiving 560 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: from animal rights activists, he says, these people need to 561 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: get a life. They have their opinion, but don't infringe 562 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: on my right to do something that's legal to me. 563 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: The big thing is in the hippo case, at least 564 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 1: someone asked him for help. Maybe we take a page 565 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: from the village when we call Wade Boggs. I don't know, 566 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: do we have to have a murderous hippo in town 567 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: or can we just ask him on the show? I 568 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: just don't know what else there is to talk about. 569 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: You think we've covered it all? Like I feel like 570 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: once if you got him on, he'd be like, oh yeah, 571 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: they're like those six things he talked about, Like those 572 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: are the least six interesting things. Oh yeah, okay, alright, 573 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: Wade Boggs, in his own words, look for it in 574 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: a podcast feeding here. Maybe we should just give the 575 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: guy's own podcast. You know, I would listen to that, 576 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: a bogcast a podcast. Yeah, that's that's good. Well man, Okay, 577 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: so this is uh does this seem like a good 578 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: place to wrap up the Wade Boggs series? For now. Yeah, 579 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: we don't know what he's gonna do next, you know 580 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: what I mean? We, Matt, thank you for coming along 581 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: with us on a two part journey into the larger 582 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 1: than life world of Wade Boggs. Uh. We do have 583 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: to ask you in advance, though, this guy's tricky if 584 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: he does something else, are you down to come back 585 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: and uh and make a part three with us? As 586 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: anytime Wade Bugs does anything noteworthy, I'm willing and able 587 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: to do this. So anytime you guys call, I'm ready. 588 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: Whatever Wade Boggs drinks a hundred and six beers on 589 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: a flight, He'll be there. Whatever Wade Boggs saves a 590 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: village from a raging hippopotamus, Matt Waxman will be there. 591 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: That's all I got. And in the meantime, while we're 592 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: waiting to hear more from Wade Boggs, waiting to hear 593 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: more from Wade Boggs, never mind. Uh, you can learn 594 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: more strange stories from the world of sports on Triggeration, 595 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: available now wherever you get your podcasts. Uh, Matt, where 596 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: would you direct people who want to learn more about 597 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: your work and want to learn more about Triggeration in specific? 598 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Hit me up on Instagram or Twitter at Trickerationum, we've 599 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: got a ton of great episodes, all involving this kind 600 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: of total nonsense. The tagline for our show is honest 601 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: Conversations about dishonest act So when people are lying, which 602 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: they're altisched, they always are. That's the kind of stuff 603 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: that that we're diving into. Next week, we've got a 604 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: story about a fisherman in North Dakota who caught the 605 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: North Dakota Walleye Record, which is a fish up there, 606 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: and it turned out there was all this controversy around, um, 607 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: whether he actually caught the fish or not, and I 608 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: interview him and UM, it's unclear to me actually at 609 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: the end of this podcast whether or not he's lying 610 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: or not. But UM, i'd love the listeners to listen 611 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: and let me know if they think he's lying. Excellent, excellent, 612 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: So we're going to check that out. We hope that 613 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: you check it out as well. Matt. Thank you so 614 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: much for coming on the show with us, not once, 615 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: but twice and maybe a third or fourth time. We've 616 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: got to keep an eye on box. Thanks as always 617 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: to our super producer, Casey Pegram, Alex Williams, who posed 618 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: our theme. Big thanks to you, buddy, Hope you're doing 619 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: well on your on your vacation, your your walk about um. 620 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: Huge thanks Christopher Haciotes here in spirit, Jonathan Strickland, that 621 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: devious and notorious quizzer. We'll get you next time. Who else? Ben? 622 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: Big thanks to our research. 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