WEBVTT - Early Riot Grrrl: Mary Carleton 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.720 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:05.880 Hi Saron, Hello Elizabeth. 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:06.960 How are you doing today? 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.200 I'm doing pretty good. It was raining earlier and I 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:11.719 was like a nice rainy dish. Yeah, yeah, I'm good. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:13.280 How about you? How are you good? 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:13.880 I'm good. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:14.840 Yeah, I'm good. 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:16.280 In my head and my body. 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:18.040 That's the best place to be good. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.680 Why not? Do you know it's ridiculous? 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:25.000 I do, Elizabeth. Now, I have to admit I don't 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.440 know if this is real. Okay, it doesn't matter, right, 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:30.360 But I often have this where I'm like, I spend 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:31.960 a lot of my time now and I'm not just 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.920 talking like oh this is ai slop? Is this real? Question? 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.879 But like just news stories. I will see like a 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.320 news story roll past and I'm like, is that real? 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.040 And I have to click on it. I spend a 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.120 lot of time not reading things I want to read, 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.480 but reading things I have to discide is that real? 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:47.519 Is that true? Could that be? 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:47.960 Ye? 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:52.360 Here's another example, according to and this is why I 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.280 don't believe it w x y z S Channel seven News, 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.640 a Florida woman has been accused of entering the Penguin 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.400 enclosure to teach them him to tap dance using a 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:05.520 live alligator as her partner. Jacksonville, Florida, PD stated she 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.920 was also dressed as a pineapple. Wait, the guy just 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.360 can't believe that's true. But I could very well tell 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.479 me you x y Z a real station. I didn't 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.280 look it up. I just saw this. I didn't have 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:16.920 enough time. This is what I mean. Is I've yet 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.600 to I haven't looked into this one. This is I'm 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.560 giving you fresh. Is this real? This is like just happened. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.880 I was in walking into the studio and I was like, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.319 that can't pay. Too many were telling you right now 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:29.880 where I. 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.800 Am dressed like a pineapple? 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.640 Yes, walks into a penguin enclosure with a live alligator 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.080 and was like, all y'all want to boogie woogie? 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:40.560 Helping to teach tap? 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:46.160 Yeah, okay, well but yeah, I guess so yeah, tap 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.160 dancing it was involved. So I don't know if he 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.880 was tapping to teach or he was a demonstrating so 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:52.360 much like don't do it like. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.840 This strong army, making making them participate. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.200 Maybe he was the better dancer, Maybe he was teaching, you. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.120 Know, maybe he was the one doing all the moves. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.520 He's like, let's go show these penguins because when you're 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:05.520 not here, I need someone to dance. 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.640 I like that. I like so this is such a 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.120 strange world that we live. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.640 In every day. Headline six or seventy you brought like 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.880 is that headline? Reeal? I have to go and read it, 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.560 and that's a new thing for me where I'm just 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.960 spending all my day going is that real? 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.519 Is this real? Do you want to know what else 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:23.280 is ridiculous? 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:24.040 Elizabeth? 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:49.880 This hot take? Renaissance pamphlets are basically zines. Oh this 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:54.280 is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.839 hes and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.760 and one hundred percent ridiculous. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.320 Damn right, I know this. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.320 Our cycles have sinked once again. This is apparently historical 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.200 crime Week here. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:07.799 I know. 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.520 I got one for you from hundreds of years ago. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.360 I like this. Yeah, no iPhone faces in these stories. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.840 Oh it's the best. And then no one can get 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.800 mad and send us a message that like, oh, you 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:20.720 did a show. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.359 But got my story wrong. I'm actually her granddaughter is 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.160 exactly how dare you? 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.960 I love that. So we're going back to the sixteen hundreds, Bibery. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:29.640 Yeah. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:34.120 Sixteen forty two, Okay, the Treaty of Axiom was signed 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.520 between the Dutch West India Company and the chiefs of 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.240 the Enzema people in the modern day African nation of Ghana. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:46.120 That happened that year Broxhom folks in Galway, Ireland. They 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.360 seized an English naval ship and closed the town gates 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.080 to support the Irish rebellion of sixteen forty one. The 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:56.000 years are okay, still going on. Three hundred thousand people 0:03:56.040 --> 0:04:00.120 died when the Ming dynasty defenders intentionally destroyed damns and 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.280 dykes of the Yellow River Washington. It was to break 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.560 the siege by the large Manchu dynasty rebel force. 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.320 Just wash the wash them away. It was like mostly 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.600 an army that gets washed away and then whoever attackted. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.680 In Colonizer history, Georgiana, Massachusetts now known as York, Maine, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.800 became the first incorporated city in the British Colonies of 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:23.560 North America. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.080 First incorporated city. They made it official. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.760 They put a ring on it. Able Tasman and his 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.839 crew became the first Europeans to see Van Diemen's Land, 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.760 later known as the Australian Island and state of Tasmania. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.800 Galileo died that year, so did Willata Petros saint in 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.200 the Ethiopian Orthodox Touaedo Church. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.240 Wait if okay, go on, sorry, I was going to 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:49.920 do something a galley. It doesn't matter what did you 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:50.280 say though. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:54.160 The last part, well, let a Petros saint in the 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:59.719 Ethiopian Orthodox Church that that person died as well. This 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.640 is all sixteen forty two, King Charles the First of 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.440 England and a bunch of his soldiers ran up on 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.080 the House of Commons to arrest his critics for treason. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.080 Oh yes, they were getting wild. 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.640 They escaped. The critics escaped and were protected by the 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.280 Lord Mayor of London. And this is a note because 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.800 that was the last time any monarch entered the House 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.919 of Commons. That was it. Yeah? Well, and then the 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:27.120 English Civil War kicked off one with Charles the First 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.719 raised the Royal Battle Standard over Nottingham Castle and declared 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.599 war on his own Parliament. England's Long Parliament ordered the 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.720 theaters of London closed, a pretty much ended the era 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.159 of English Renaissance theater. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:40.719 Right. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.640 Okay, So there's lots going on all across the globe, 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.880 but a particularly tumultuous time in jolly old England, and 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.120 that's where we're going to start today, sixteen forty two England. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.000 But put a pin in that. So now let's talk 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.080 about riot Girls. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.520 Okay, this is quite the skip. I'm gonna need a. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.279 Who different record for I just finished listening to Kathleen 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.039 Hannah's memoir on audible. She was the lead singer of 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.159 the punk band Bikini Kill and the one who founded 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.880 the Riot Girl movement. So for the uninitiated, Riot Girl 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.839 was a feminist punk movement that emerged in the early 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.760 nineties pretty much like in Olympia Washington and in Washington, DC. 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.240 And it combined this like DIY punk music with feminist 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.919 politics created a space for women to express anger, like 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.560 reclaim their bodies, challenge sexism in the music industry, and 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.360 then like society at large. And so the core bands 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.080 were Bikini Kill, Slater Kinney, and Bratmobile, and there were 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:43.359 tons of like self published zines that shared personal writing, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.799 political manifestos, and community resources. And there was this phrase 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.279 girls to the Front that Kathleen Hannah used to yell. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.480 That was this rallying cry that encouraged women to take 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:58.720 up like literal and figurative space at shows. So Riot 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:03.359 Girl addressed topics that were largely taboo at the time, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:07.560 you know, like sexual assault, body image, racism, homophobia in 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.640 this really raw, unapologetic and direct way. And it was 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.480 as much of like a cultural and political network as 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:19.520 it was a music scene. Influence third wave feminism. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.400 I was gonna say, it's almost like its own subwave 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:22.000 of feminism. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.080 Yeah, exactly, And it left this mark on Indian and 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.320 punk culture. So the memoir I thought was really good 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.720 because I went back and forth between totally relating to 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.880 what she was saying and experiencing, and then also rolling 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.160 my eyes and how extra she was sometimes and how 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.559 overly sensitive I thought she was about some things. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.320 They could be super raw and then also super precious 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:44.920 to be. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.320 Challenged by writing and art. I don't want to just 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.360 you know, feel all one way. I like the back 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.200 and forth of my own reactions. She did get me 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.920 thinking about why I thought things that she said or 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.080 did were naive or precious and not like in the 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.760 what we'd call the real world, like my own programming, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.400 you know, by an inherently misogynist society, I suppose. Anyway, 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:06.640 when I stumbled upon the woman. 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.080 Could you experience a Rye girl summer of your own? 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.520 Not necessarily, No, it was like kind of swimming around 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.760 and like you know, would like listen to parts of 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.560 it and stuff, but I never got into like the 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.000 zines in the meetings and like oka going heavy into 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:21.720 that kind of stuff. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:22.120 I got you. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.040 But so I'm looking around, like who am I going 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.600 to tell you about this week? And I found this 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.680 woman and it made me think of Kathleen Hannah. So 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.720 this woman, Mary Carlton, she was just like a blatant criminal. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.959 Kathleen Hannah not a blatant and Mary Carlton, though she 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:43.600 wrote her own account of her life, and like numerous pamphlets, plays, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.280 and broadsides were written about her both during and after 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:46.760 her life. 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.960 This is beyond uncommon, right. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.400 And so she's this fascinating figure in the history of 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:59.280 female agency, crime and celebrity. So she navigated this world 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.840 with like very few legitimate opportunities for women. Okay, So, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.440 like Kathleen Hannah had to choose between waiting tables and 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.840 stripping in order to make money to get her band 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.800 on the road for tour. And she chose stripping because 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.040 there was so much more money involved. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.680 Yeah, so they that I stripped, but I know that 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.240 there's more money there dancers. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.319 Imagine how tough it was for Mary Carlton three hundred 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.960 and fifty some years earlier. Yeah. So Carlton and Hannah 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.679 they no, Yeah, I did the math. They're both they 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:30.920 were so audacious. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.640 I mean places where you can actually make a good 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:33.520 living right. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.360 And changing and have the agency. So they both they 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.200 were audacious and they reinvented themselves. So I kind of 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.120 feel like Mary Carlton was like a proto riot girl. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:45.000 I like this. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.800 Yeah, I like, I'm going with this, and it's a risk, 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.680 it's a gamble. I know these dice. 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.760 I do a number of riote girls, and so far 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:56.559 everything you're describing is eliciting both their spirit and their comportment. 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.240 So yeah, see, okay, I'm on the right track. I said, like, 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.080 people can't from if I tell something from the sixteen hundreds, 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.080 they can't complain. But now I got like, right, girls 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:06.560 are going to come at me. But that's okay. 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.160 Now I think you're doing this is it is with love? 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.800 And so it was in sixteen forty two, I told 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:13.520 you all the things that. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:14.720 Happened sixteen two. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.040 That was also the year. That's the year that Mary 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:23.320 Carlton was born in Canterbury, England. Her dad was a fiddler, 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.720 professional musician one hundred percent. Going on my list of 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.040 fake jobs that I tell people, I have taxidermists, greeting 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:31.600 card writer, fiddler. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.120 Play green fleas. It's not like to play free bird 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.559 period exactly. He's like, oh, got it. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.000 So when she arrived in the world in sixteen forty two, 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:45.120 she was Mary Moehler's into an England in crisis. She 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.720 grew up. She married a shoemaker named Thomas Steadman. Like 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.120 just like Oprah, she hooked up with her. He had 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.560 a job, but like Mary, wasn't stoked on it. She 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.320 wanted more. She didn't want to be the daughter of 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.920 a Canterbury fiddler and the wife of a Canterbury shoemaker. 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:02.160 Ah. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.400 She hung on for four years with this guy, and 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.800 then Steedman got called to fight in the Civil War 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.880 and Mary saw her chance. She ran off to Dover, England. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.800 So in sixteen sixty, she's eighteen years old, she got 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.120 busted in Dover. Now let's do the math. Assuming she 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.840 got busted pretty quickly upon arrival. That means that she 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.319 was married to the shoemaker when she was fourteen. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:24.960 I was skipping past that because you did, I know, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:25.840 you know how to do that. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.840 Math so bleaked so common. 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.559 Oh yes, yeaheen fourteen and she's four years deep in 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.320 a marriage at eighteen, just like I want to get 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:34.640 to Dover. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.040 I got to get out of here. So she gets 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.920 to Dover. She got in trouble for trying to marry 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.040 a surgeon named Thomas Day, like she's trading up. The 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.000 problem is that she was still married to Stedman. Oh yeah, 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.520 he's off fighting in Dunkirk, which that place has had 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.800 it rough Ittilia. But Mary told the court that she 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.480 heard he was dead. She's like, big of me, not guilty. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.720 You're on her, No, not me. So the judge let 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.440 her go, but only on the condition that she either 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.080 provide proof that Stedman was really dead or break it 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.520 off with the surgeon. And so she. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.079 Says, no, Stedman, he's still fighting at this point on 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:11.240 the front. She's a guy. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.320 She She's like, well, I don't have written proof that 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.920 he was killed in battle, but I'll swear to it 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.240 in court. And the court's like, well, let's call for 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.680 him to appear, and he didn't show, so she got acquitted. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.199 She's like, there you go proof. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.560 Yeah, okay, no body, no crime. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:31.000 Wait apparently quote. There was also present at the trial 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.000 a bricklayer one Billing, who had brought with him a 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.240 parson and a clerk is witnesses that he too had 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.040 once married her, but for some reason his case was 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.160 not ever heard no onet to because he was kind 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:43.960 of like a push bricklayer. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.240 Rough hand justice for Billing. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:49.959 I feel. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.320 This was a guy who hitched us. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.199 That's making me roll the dates back even further. If 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.240 she was four years in deep with. 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.520 The husband was a bigamous so she like married him 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:02.439 at sixteen. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.400 She married the original guy like thirteen, and then did 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:10.680 four years, got to dover married Billing married Like yeah, 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.760 there's a lot going on, but I feel like Mary 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.600 was doing that thing where you start with a paper 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.040 clip and start trading up until you have like a yacht. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.800 For she went from shoemaker a surgeon. Me too. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.199 I can't have that kind of stick to it and 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.640 care enough. I'll be happy with like the early thing. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.960 Like you feel like here's a light bulb. I need 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:30.480 a light bulb. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.120 Yeah, exactly, and then I don't have to talk to 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.880 anyone else. So anyway, she was able to beat the charges, 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.320 and so she decided like, well, maybe England isn't the 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:40.000 place for me. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.480 I love it, by the way, busted in Dovers. It 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:43.760 sounds like a Pogue song. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:49.760 It dover or like a old steady. So they knew 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.720 too much in England. So she went to Germany, and 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.880 it was there that she put the moves on a 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.800 wealthy nobleman, an older gent, and he was all about it. 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.840 He gave her presence, he bought her clothes, He just 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.080 like handed her straight up cash, promised her the moon. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.320 He's like, as long as you will marry me, And 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.599 she's like, you know what, why not, I will marry you. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:13.080 Let's do it. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.200 I still have the dress. 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.240 I mean there's this whole thing like I might be 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.920 already married, and like I've already beat big em me 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:19.600 by a hair. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.720 People keep saying I'm married everywhere I. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.040 Go, and I think that maybe like this reality got 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:24.320 to her. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:25.520 I think they're just jealous. 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.560 Well, like the whirlwind, romance with the nobleman ended just 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.720 as quickly as it began. Oh, she promised, okay, you 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.960 know what, I'll marry you in three days. Three days. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.680 And he gave her a ton of cash and was like, 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.880 go get whatever you need for the wedding, my love, 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.640 okay yeah, and he's spitting. He's like, I just want 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.920 to make you mine. So she's staying at this lodge 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.520 and the nobleman gave the landlady there this wedding chest 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:54.400 full of absolute treasure for safe keeping, and Mary would 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.040 get the chest and all the loot upon their marriage. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.000 So as soon as the land lady left the law 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.080 like she went out to the toilet in the back 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.080 or something, Mary busted open the chest and took everything, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.240 and then she got the heck out of town. She's like, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.600 I don't want to marry this guy, Mary marry him. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.800 I want to just like So she got a ticket 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.760 to Utrecht and ghosted old homie. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:19.240 Okay. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.840 And I got to say, these men, they're using her 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.200 for her youth and beauty. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:24.480 Oh yeah, I don't feel about at all. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.320 They would discard her without a thought. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.800 Yeah, it's a transactional thing. And she just moved quickly exactly. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.480 She decides to use them first fair play. So from 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.600 utrek she went to Amsterdam, and once there she sold 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.400 this gold chain and some other jewelry that he'd given her, 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.560 and she used that cash to get to Rotterdam. And 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.000 she's smart. She's like spreading out her fencing so it 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.680 can't really be traced. From Rotterdam, she bounced around a little, 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.560 and she finally bought a ticket back to England. You know, 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.720 it's a successful trip to Germany. I've had a bunch 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.720 of stuff. It's a fun So she arrived in Billingsgate, 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.440 which is like this entry point into London at the 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.080 end of March sixteen sixty three. She's twenty one, sixteen 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.360 sixty three, okay, And she didn't enter London as Mary 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.760 Moehlers or Mary Steedman or any other names she'd already held. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.320 She walked into the Exchange tavern in central London, dressed 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:20.720 to the nines, carrying herself with dignity, dripping in jewels 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.800 and speaking with like this slightly continental foreign accent. Can't 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:26.680 put your finger on it. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.120 She's like, I imagine, kind of like a less pronounced, 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:31.680 kind of. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:35.720 Like it could be anywhere I could be singing from 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:41.239 rich So she said her name was Princess Henrietta Maria 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:47.880 devouve from Cologne, French, German Frankish, long way from a 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.440 fiddler's dot huh. So this is how she characterized her 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.240 background in her own words. Quote. My father's name was 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.720 Henry van Woolway, a license tat and doctor of the 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.600 civil law, and Lord of Holmestein, A man esteemed for 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.119 his services done to the City of Kollen in mediating 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.280 their peace and security and neutrality in the Swedish and 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.240 German War, and for other effects of his counsels and 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.119 endeavors to our ecclesiastical Prince Elector and the House of 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.600 Lorraine in all those turmoils of that country in the 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.240 first rupture of the Spanish and French War. I instance 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.800 these remarks, because having been so long dead some nineteen years, 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.960 I cannot better describe or characterize him to strangers, though 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.879 he were known in his own country by other great 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.639 and noble actions, as well as for his long and 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.000 ancient descent from an honorable family of that name, which 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.080 whosoever shall give himself the trouble of curiosity and inquiring 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.919 may yet find preserved from the ruins of a destructive 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:54.879 and but just composed conflagration, an so like break it 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.080 up girl, like the period is your friend you put 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:02.280 it in there. Yeah, a lot of commas, but it's 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.720 also it's like it's all the like high falutin flowery language. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.480 It sounds like imitation lawyer speakers. 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.520 And it's a long way from a peasant Kentish accent 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.639 of the time. So she has she's trained herself in this. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.879 She said that her parents died before she was three, 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.040 but her father left his entire estate to her, and 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.480 she was an orphan and taken in by the church, 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:28.040 specifically the nunnery of Sancta Clara, and there she got 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.560 this education, good home training. She was given all the 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.560 proper breeding and such, but she wanted more. I mean, 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:39.320 that's like her true story, right, just once more exotically 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.359 in this version of her life. She didn't want to 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.040 be alone all the time. She didn't want to live 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.200 like an old nun while being this like vivacious young gal. 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.760 She said quote, I felt some such strong impulses and 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:57.000 natural instincts to be ranging abroad and in action, as 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.359 the first finders of Tara incognita were urged with to 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.280 discover of those regions of whose existence they had no 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.640 further assurance than their own hopeful bodings and divinations. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:09.960 She's like, look, it's the age of exploration. I want 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:11.160 to want to explore. 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.880 I want to get out there. I got that. So 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.320 she told people that she traped around Europe and she 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.480 was hounded by suitors. One was an old soldier, according 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:24.520 to Laura Colb, Associate professor of English at Baroke College, 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.720 cuney quote, a faustlike student of the dark arts. 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.840 Gotcha the old soldier. 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:34.640 Yes, that's a little scary. And then there she was 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.119 walking into the Exchange tavern, ready to see where the 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.560 day would take her. Let's take a break. When we return, 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.680 we're going to join Mary in the tavern on her 0:19:43.760 --> 0:20:08.560 search for her next fool zaren All right, So here 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.160 we are in the exchange tavern. Now I think this 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:17.280