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Speaker 1: J You know, for the next two weeks, eight is
Speaker 1: out there coaching. It's you football team. You know, they
Speaker 1: got a little two of days that they gotta do,
Speaker 1: So he'd be going today and next week, but he'd
Speaker 1: be right back at my nig and mine. That's what's
Speaker 1: happening into man, proud of you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: do a show and all that. Man. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying it stay down with the kids, man, that's
Speaker 1: what we here for. Yeah. And and that person next
Speaker 1: you here in the background is Mr Samuel Moroa Jr.
Speaker 1: A k A Caffeine a k A. What's happening our partner?
Speaker 1: I like that. I mean, you know, you was like
Speaker 1: the post boy. You was like the post boy for
Speaker 1: Nigga's to be wearing Nigga's coming back for revenge. You
Speaker 1: was like the posted boy for that whole area, doog
Speaker 1: you know what I'm thinking for the niggas that might
Speaker 1: come back for that ass you beat somebody down, but
Speaker 1: you but you know what the crazy you know what
Speaker 1: the craziest thing about that is, um, the whole scene
Speaker 1: wouldn't actually been like that. The Huge Brothers at that time,
Speaker 1: at that particular time, I was, Um, I was really
Speaker 1: heavy and trying to get my music out. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people to know I was doing music
Speaker 1: and wanted to do music, and um, and I had
Speaker 1: to deal with did Griffin and Griffy was over that.
Speaker 1: He was responsible for bringing out Baby Phace to deal
Speaker 1: all them and you know and Baba they wanted to
Speaker 1: buy the Emmins Build turning into Emmins Building over there
Speaker 1: solo record So um bam, I landed, I landed the road,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I told I said, uh,
Speaker 1: I told the Huge brother I said, man, because I
Speaker 1: really wasn't privy to like, you know, the movie scene.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was. I was fresh
Speaker 1: out of Junie that hall, so I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: like it was about it. I really didn't know, like
Speaker 1: you know, you can't just come on to sit and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I got somewhere to be. I gotta be to cut out.
Speaker 1: They got scheduled, they got time and you you know,
Speaker 1: you scheduled to be here. So I was like, um,
Speaker 1: but I had a meeting at uh at uh with
Speaker 1: Matt Jones over uh, not not up top but motown
Speaker 1: you feel me at that time before it changed over
Speaker 1: and I think BBD and was over there, but it
Speaker 1: was were just taking meetings, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And um, and we wind up going from that meeting
Speaker 1: ended up with dig Griff you Soulour records. But um,
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, uh, I said, look, I said,
Speaker 1: I got a meeting uh with with some music stuff.
Speaker 1: So um, it was the scene was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to I was supposed to do, you know,
Speaker 1: say which one of y'alls came and go up to him.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't going to be a stop. I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a regular squabble. We're supposed to squabble
Speaker 1: a little bit. And he posted boom grab you know
Speaker 1: in the projects where they hanged to close out you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, So he posted grabbing
Speaker 1: choking me out if they had a whole little thing
Speaker 1: to choke up. You know what I'm saying. He choked
Speaker 1: me out. And and they're supposed to do some other ship.
Speaker 1: You know, you're supposed to be long and drawn out.
Speaker 1: But since I had that meeting, it was like, damn,
Speaker 1: how the fund can we do? Okay, this is we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna he's just gonna you're gonna say
Speaker 1: the line and then bam, he just gonna boom boom boom,
Speaker 1: take you to go down and boom and that that's it.
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, well that that's cool because I didn't
Speaker 1: give me time. So it really it really that scene.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would have had as much impact
Speaker 1: as it did as the real quick like man, it
Speaker 1: was this mother wanting up to me and in the
Speaker 1: stompotot made an impact on the snopout to make it bigger.
Speaker 1: You feel me. Goddamn, he just stumping it. He wouldn't
Speaker 1: even post stop then time. Well, you're just lucky that
Speaker 1: you walked into projects and was able to just get
Speaker 1: it and then get the projects different scene. Yeah, walking
Speaker 1: up on an like that so um that that that's
Speaker 1: always trip off that like damn, you know, because that
Speaker 1: the impact that that made that that small role like
Speaker 1: that so big and massive to the world was you know,
Speaker 1: his character. You know, he was a scounding them up
Speaker 1: on him and uh, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: you the women and people fell in love with his
Speaker 1: character of liked him. I just want to see him
Speaker 1: because everybody we want that, you know what I'm say.
Speaker 1: Everybody want to get up out the hood and do better.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Even if they don't want
Speaker 1: to say it, you know they want to you know,
Speaker 1: like dam if I want to sun up out of
Speaker 1: here and I want to do something, you know, deep
Speaker 1: down you know if they're playing this role you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that hood or whatever what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but you know who wants to stay in
Speaker 1: the hood and get on? You know I'm saying the
Speaker 1: drive by scene, did that ship feel good to you?
Speaker 1: Like just being and when you had to drive but
Speaker 1: I did to drive by? Did do that? Did that
Speaker 1: feel good to you? Like this? I mean if I
Speaker 1: have played that part, I would have been like ship
Speaker 1: just right up, my allie, I got you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying you know what, and that that's that's the
Speaker 1: reason why I was like, okay, yeah, I can dig
Speaker 1: it because it wasn't just that scene where it was
Speaker 1: just left like that. It was retaliation of you know,
Speaker 1: get back saying I said, that's gonna be very impactive.
Speaker 1: And how the huge Bucks played and they did it
Speaker 1: was it was it was you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it felt it felt it felt. It felt
Speaker 1: real good, you know what I'm saying. Because that ship
Speaker 1: I think that was like my first time even getting off.
Speaker 1: It was it was real guns but blank bullets, so right,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like, oh this is good after
Speaker 1: the first squeeze, tell me, I know. So yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was a cool scene with him man tire and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But really I didn't, um,
Speaker 1: I didn't really uh see see too much of nobody.
Speaker 1: Um like you know what I'm sat like that. I
Speaker 1: just did my part and got on and didn't real
Speaker 1: like ship, Um everybody was in the eight you know,
Speaker 1: shoo short, I'm like, damn all these mothers. I just
Speaker 1: did my part and you know it got on. But uh,
Speaker 1: she didn't know that Samuel Jackson was in there. You know, like, damn.
Speaker 1: I looked back like it's crazy. Everybody don't shoot on
Speaker 1: the same day that that feel me that now. But
Speaker 1: now you know, many films are n'tdone. I know that,
Speaker 1: but coming in that was my first ship, you know,
Speaker 1: but it really wasn't my first ship. It was my
Speaker 1: first film. But people don't know. They try to, you know, um,
Speaker 1: stick me with this this this this gangster ship, in
Speaker 1: this this role. They you know, people love me. Would
Speaker 1: you give me putting something from me? I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do what I do. I'm acting, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what you get me, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna player to the fullest. So um, my
Speaker 1: first ship ever actually was um out All night Out
Speaker 1: on Night the Pad LaBelle Show with a Fox more
Speaker 1: Chest not Duwayne Martin. I read my first lines ever
Speaker 1: speaking role ever on TV was with Dwayne Martin and um,
Speaker 1: the sister on on Fresh Prince of bell As. She
Speaker 1: was guest starring on there, the oldest sister from Fresh
Speaker 1: Prince of bel Air. Yeah, yeah, I read my house
Speaker 1: was nervous as a motherfucker. But Adam, I'm laughing. So
Speaker 1: comedy was my first ship. But for some reason, oh
Speaker 1: it was there was the impact of minister society that
Speaker 1: boys in the hood was one of you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you wasn't set it off again, you know, And I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you because you damn sure. It was
Speaker 1: like the thug choice for home time in every movie.
Speaker 1: The motherfucker's that you just like, that's the scams assign.
Speaker 1: They get his ass They was just making you that
Speaker 1: character for every movie. Though, do you ever felt like
Speaker 1: that you did two go a job? Um Ship? Well ship,
Speaker 1: you know what, because you sounded and looked just like
Speaker 1: a l a nigger when you was doing what you
Speaker 1: were doing. It was convincing, you know, saying that ship
Speaker 1: Uh well, I mean, you know, you know basically, you know,
Speaker 1: it's where you go up. I grew up in South
Speaker 1: Central you know, Los Angeles. Nipsey Hustle did that same neighborhood,
Speaker 1: you know, same neighborhood. What I'm saying, the Nipsey younger
Speaker 1: than me. But Nipsey had a very very good, big impact.
Speaker 1: He did that he did He wasn't my little homeboard
Speaker 1: that was you know man. And then he did you know,
Speaker 1: like how Ship played you know, ship being going right.
Speaker 1: But you know, aside from that um ship, you know,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that kind of a little bit so good man.
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to ask you about um it
Speaker 1: seems in specific man, it's black Hollywood and specific. It's
Speaker 1: like you have all of these great actors, right, and
Speaker 1: they go on these runs like you know, especially a
Speaker 1: lot of brothers from the nineties, like you Tyrant Turner
Speaker 1: and you know a host of other brothers, and it's
Speaker 1: just like yeah, and it's almost like y'all got tight
Speaker 1: cash to the point where y'all had these roles that
Speaker 1: was so iconic. It was almost like people scared. Do
Speaker 1: you think some of that? Do you think it was
Speaker 1: a little bit of bias going on in Hollywood? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, that's that's that's what it
Speaker 1: is Hollywood. You know. They you know, people like to
Speaker 1: some people, you know, if they could pitch and hold
Speaker 1: you something on some ship, you know, or keep doing
Speaker 1: it or just like you know, just like what what
Speaker 1: jay Z say, man, stop keeping you keep painting too
Speaker 1: much because once somebody get on something, you know, that's
Speaker 1: all they want to do. You know. I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm gonna put the teap and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do I'm gonna put the you know, the voice box
Speaker 1: on it. I'm gonna do that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like Rogers, you know speaking, everybody want to do it,
Speaker 1: you know, because they want to show that. But that's
Speaker 1: just hip hop, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: you take a piece of this and you know, let's
Speaker 1: see what my mix gonna be on it, My spind
Speaker 1: gonna be on it. But sometimes you can burn ship out,
Speaker 1: you know, saying it's time, it's time to do something new.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't think you can
Speaker 1: never burn out the rule of a gamester because just
Speaker 1: so many and and you know it ever go away.
Speaker 1: You need their games in against the film. You got
Speaker 1: to have one, you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 1: like I'm saying, like, oh, that's what I was talking about, Like,
Speaker 1: uh my boy, Willie, did you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like we said play the role to the thing, Like,
Speaker 1: uh I didn't think I was gonna get the motherfucker
Speaker 1: when Players Club because uh I was outside the dog.
Speaker 1: You know when they say auditions, right, and so the
Speaker 1: next person go in. So, um, I was kind of
Speaker 1: cheating a little bit. I was coming listening ghetto boys.
Speaker 1: Who is that? Let's Willie D for together boys? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm like, so he was in there.
Speaker 1: So all I'm hearing after they have to finish his
Speaker 1: scene in there, they laughing. They're talking about ship, you know, tour.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of like that said he for
Speaker 1: to get this motherfucking roles, Willie, did you know? But
Speaker 1: you know, like a business is business, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I just went in there and knocked
Speaker 1: my ship back on I did, you know. And if
Speaker 1: it's believable, it's believable, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: you know, I was like to show he was gonna
Speaker 1: get at to Bully D. But it wasn't just about
Speaker 1: you know, the homely hook up or you know my potet.
Speaker 1: I gotta give you this role cues like whoever knock
Speaker 1: that ship back the best and bring this And I
Speaker 1: like that, you know, because that's business. That's why I
Speaker 1: tell my partners, like, you know, this ship. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to get me nothing. I want
Speaker 1: to work for what I got you know, if I
Speaker 1: got to work for it, if I ain't got for it,
Speaker 1: it ain't nothing. Let me ask you this question, no, bro,
Speaker 1: because you know this seal was l A and I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. And it ain't just l A thing.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a nationwide thing. Whenever you are playing
Speaker 1: a character in the movie motherfucker's in the streets, ain't
Speaker 1: able to separate reality from fiction. How many motherfucker's did
Speaker 1: you have running up on you? Man? I had girls
Speaker 1: and they're talking about can you rape me like you did?
Speaker 1: Like what I swear it was crazy, But you know
Speaker 1: what happened at very very beginning, I had the mature
Speaker 1: because you know, I never you know, did this ship
Speaker 1: for us? So after minutes came out, you know, you
Speaker 1: know it's people like to you know, rag on you
Speaker 1: you know, say a little ship, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: walking through We're walking through the Uh what's that ship? Uh?
Speaker 1: Uh uh and uh but but playing in Hollywood and
Speaker 1: all that ship was the city Walk city Walk ship.
Speaker 1: So we walked through the city while we're coming out
Speaker 1: to uh movie and ship and here goes some knicks.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, dude, stuffing. You just stopped out.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't know how many like what you know,
Speaker 1: if we went into that it was some real sight me.
Speaker 1: That's just a movie. They can watch out, you know.
Speaker 1: But all in all, all that was really was trying
Speaker 1: to do, say what's up. They wanted the key in
Speaker 1: on that, and they wanted to do at and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and I forgot like, really, hummy, that's a movie.
Speaker 1: It's not for real, and you know what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do. They're clowning. But at the same time they
Speaker 1: recognizing you feel me having me into that to say
Speaker 1: when they say when the people say, oh they stumped
Speaker 1: your ass out, I said, now, I said, yeah they
Speaker 1: show did you know? Said but I got me a
Speaker 1: check for what help me that? If that ain't gonna
Speaker 1: have to be announe You know what I'm saying in
Speaker 1: real life? You know what I'm saying. So I had
Speaker 1: to start and to separate the ship, you know, and
Speaker 1: clowning and some people like something something something dude like
Speaker 1: something my polities or that. If it's some brawls around,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's they go. Junior, you still all the
Speaker 1: movies and you go straight to the rape. Scene. But
Speaker 1: then they're gonna just what he thought I said they're doing.
Speaker 1: So they have solid up for us. But that's how
Speaker 1: you identified, say what type of nigga this nigga is? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: they go junior huh, but it's still still come yeah,
Speaker 1: good man. So you ain't never had to have more
Speaker 1: physical altercations with nobody, then you don't have to get
Speaker 1: them up with nobody. Ever. No, that's the front that
Speaker 1: was in the beginning. But minutes, when Minutes first came out,
Speaker 1: it came to them. There a couple of them because
Speaker 1: I was still like my my manager back thens like
Speaker 1: that ship is a fucking movie. They like, don't pay
Speaker 1: no attention to that. They were trying to funk with you. Man,
Speaker 1: you left the ship with you and you're gonna keep
Speaker 1: getting you know what I'm saying. So I had the
Speaker 1: mature and that like, oh wait a minute. And at
Speaker 1: the end they are, oh man, it's cool man, she man,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get your autography. Really, okay, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. They don't know how to say, so
Speaker 1: they just go to some other little funny ship. Some
Speaker 1: some people were really mad because I was mad at
Speaker 1: hey that that scene he had when he just shot
Speaker 1: the brothers on the ground back back. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: motherfucker here seen was so cold when he comes that
Speaker 1: bad man like that shop. He really fucked me up
Speaker 1: with that ship. Yeah, I was, man, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this ship as motherfucker's really active. Really yeah, but we
Speaker 1: who have to do We had to get tiring up
Speaker 1: in this motherfucker dog. Who had to get tiring up here?
Speaker 1: Who had to get it and have a minister society,
Speaker 1: have a society reunion, you know. Being that that was
Speaker 1: one of the most pivotal movies of all time, man,
Speaker 1: because I think it showed um, I think the rest
Speaker 1: of the world was kind of enthralled with West Coast
Speaker 1: culture during that time. You know, you have boys in
Speaker 1: the hood, then you had minist society. It was just real,
Speaker 1: just hella interesting to the outside people looking like it's
Speaker 1: people really living like that out there. Yeah, because because
Speaker 1: for one that all they had was it vocally coming
Speaker 1: through cube and you know what I'm saying, and easy,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and they were seeing it it
Speaker 1: up missing portions to music videos, but they wasn't really
Speaker 1: getting the whole captured and of it, and the huge
Speaker 1: Brothers and John Singleton really made that a visual that
Speaker 1: you like, they've really captured the hard and soul of
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not just Los Angeles, but
Speaker 1: ghettos everywhere worldwide, but everywhere everywhere. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They're like, damn, I can relate to that ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, even if even if you ship,
Speaker 1: if you're a country you need you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if you even New York you know shawing up yo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's penitentious everywhere. So all the real mother Brothers, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, they tap into the ship. They're like, yo,
Speaker 1: mother yo. They right now, Well they wall them here
Speaker 1: like that wall the like like we do out there,
Speaker 1: and everybody want to come bring their shipped to the
Speaker 1: table and show how they how they get down, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Ghetto boys and all that. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, you just think about it though, because Tupac
Speaker 1: was supposed to play Shariff wasn't he was he was
Speaker 1: up to play Sharifa one time. Did you ever get
Speaker 1: the bump into him? Yeah? Hell yeah. That ship was
Speaker 1: crazy than the motherfucker. I was winning damn his last
Speaker 1: days and ship. But that was not through me. That
Speaker 1: was through my nigga, Spice one. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean Spice were connected on the tails from the hood.
Speaker 1: Uh uh red carpet ship, I'm pulling up. I'm pulling
Speaker 1: up full to you know, he got jumped out and
Speaker 1: ship me and my best we you know, definitely had
Speaker 1: my say I pulled MYO on my top down and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm uh like, he looked like that's the crazy
Speaker 1: ship when you're doing a movie, motherfucker say you And
Speaker 1: you're like, because I've been seeing this thing on you know, videos, video,
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you know what I'm saying. All
Speaker 1: the way we clicked like a motherfucker like something Nia saddened, nigga,
Speaker 1: what hadded? What's good out you? Whatever? Whooped? We clicked
Speaker 1: and she hooked up and shipped from me. And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that he was then he was
Speaker 1: coming to ship. He had to deal with a Jive
Speaker 1: and I wind up getting my music deal music deal
Speaker 1: with Andre Herrell through Jive Records. So we wind up
Speaker 1: being on the same day that we never had eno music.
Speaker 1: We just was cool. Partners. What I'm saying, that was
Speaker 1: my That's my favorite still to this day. And so
Speaker 1: um used to be me, him and Cocaine and Ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Before Cocaine went over there
Speaker 1: doing the music with us and Ship, we used to
Speaker 1: be were just like we just gonna call ourselves the
Speaker 1: Barceloni Crew because that's how tough we was hanging, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And Um, I was like nigger,
Speaker 1: I said, Ship. And one day, Um, we was in
Speaker 1: front of the montrenand Mondrean Hotel. It was like before
Speaker 1: he had a face on it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Everybody used to go to that mother the Mantrono tep
Speaker 1: right across street from uh the Uh what's the House
Speaker 1: of Blues? And you my ship during Monday two day,
Speaker 1: everybody comes to the Motherucker Bust, Rhyn jay Z, everybody
Speaker 1: standing at the Montreal. You know what I'm saying. So, uh,
Speaker 1: he come out here. He picked me up this nick,
Speaker 1: put me up in memos and monking I mean about
Speaker 1: my house and ship. Come on, give me any niggas
Speaker 1: get you. You know what I'm saying. He had a
Speaker 1: couple of memos we vibe out Chris Shaw and ship
Speaker 1: out little this is crazy. So he picked me up
Speaker 1: and we one day, um were just rolling. It wasn't
Speaker 1: no limosh no, not that who's So we came back
Speaker 1: and pulled it in front, uh into the parking and
Speaker 1: had people parking and people for the parked cards and
Speaker 1: ship and um bam, motherfucker double r whoom shit me
Speaker 1: bust you like that buster, You sucking nigga. I'm looking like,
Speaker 1: said uh, and Chico like sudden nigga was saying that
Speaker 1: was part he was by myself. Foo said Nick, come, Nick,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go listen to my album. Niggaut was mcavelli.
Speaker 1: It's like, listen my album, nigga. What you hear this ship? Damn.
Speaker 1: So I'm talking to uh Chico Cousins and ship Copton.
Speaker 1: So I was like, damn he feeling going home. We
Speaker 1: was just like just coming, just like oh I f stake,
Speaker 1: you know. Then Pod came with that ship and uh
Speaker 1: he was like, uh. He was like, nigga, hold up, nigga.
Speaker 1: I said, alright, my nigga ship go ahead of my nigga.
Speaker 1: He said, Nick the funk out of here. Nick, come on, Nick,
Speaker 1: come in to all right, nigger here and come on.
Speaker 1: I told his cousin Boom getting the court, nigga, me
Speaker 1: for the follow the nigga. We caravan and we careving
Speaker 1: all the way out Malibu and ship carving all the
Speaker 1: way out Malibu. And it was some crap. I don't
Speaker 1: know if i's I don't know, but um fucking ship.
Speaker 1: I was like, Park was zigzagging and ship like whoo
Speaker 1: whoo in the two lines you know when you're taking
Speaker 1: that uh that you know to go to go to people. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so I'm like, damn, I'm trying to catch up
Speaker 1: to this nigga. But so I had Hennessey bottle and ship.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, we're drinking and ship. So I'm zig
Speaker 1: zag and trying to get last. I'm gona go to
Speaker 1: the side and like that's why I'm like now I'm
Speaker 1: trying to keep up, you know. So um, motherfucker I
Speaker 1: get I get out. I'm like, holder man, fun this ship.
Speaker 1: So I said, give me a bottle. I'm saying, so
Speaker 1: as as we kept schooling up school now and partly
Speaker 1: they like they zig zagging foom they getting it was
Speaker 1: like cars coming to La he getting off the cars.
Speaker 1: They but they move, you know what, sayings all these
Speaker 1: things trying to get bottles. So I'm like, man, it's
Speaker 1: called getting funds all time. So I'm gonna throw the bottle.
Speaker 1: I'll give them sign to throw the bottle, like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the bottle. Motherfucker's It was like white lady.
Speaker 1: It was. It was all like white lady, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And like couple. You know, it was
Speaker 1: like they like they was coupled up like they were
Speaker 1: going to be some ship. But ship when that because
Speaker 1: I throw the bottle and the motherfucking boom, it was
Speaker 1: like fair hold. I'm like, oh, I said so quick,
Speaker 1: hold on, but y'all got to slow down. Told me
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't move like that right now. I
Speaker 1: ain't tell him, you know, until I got there. That
Speaker 1: was like, oh so the first I told this was yeah,
Speaker 1: all we got there, told him they still know I
Speaker 1: know that ship. He was like we started out on
Speaker 1: the phone and ship and Mama cussing like a motherfucker
Speaker 1: trying to get the outlaws ship. Uh that little ship
Speaker 1: like you know going what you think about the album mcabilly,
Speaker 1: Oh that's man, look, that's ship crazy to watch by fact,
Speaker 1: when we do the uh whatever ship chicos we Um.
Speaker 1: They performed that ship him and the Outlaws right there
Speaker 1: before he did it at the House of Blues and
Speaker 1: all that. And the formed that ship right there in
Speaker 1: the back in the back. Uh you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: what the back house house part up when you step
Speaker 1: over the thing and step right into the sea and
Speaker 1: ship on the Malibuba super fly slight ship. And the
Speaker 1: performed that ship right there like this song the big
Speaker 1: y'all that ship first off up like this ship crazy
Speaker 1: them that was hard as the motherfucker them in Outlaws,
Speaker 1: they formed that right right there. We got the first
Speaker 1: front row seat. Yeah, and I left. I didn't never
Speaker 1: know who Jackie Chan was. Snake had moved all kinds
Speaker 1: of movies and Jackie Chin he was like he was.
Speaker 1: This ship was crazy, he said. He said, that's where
Speaker 1: he was doing most is right and right out there
Speaker 1: on that patio and ship right there. I was like, damn.
Speaker 1: And from there, uh ship we went, he called, He
Speaker 1: called the new again. He was a studio, he said,
Speaker 1: Nick me me at the um down to the Jim
Speaker 1: Lucy where he was feeling that Nastal fielding with them
Speaker 1: Jim Lucy and ship down to that ship. And then
Speaker 1: another time at the other mansion and I was playing.
Speaker 1: I was playing. I was playing motherfucking um what you
Speaker 1: call it on h I think I think on the
Speaker 1: one light scheme they got killed one of our laws.
Speaker 1: And ship, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: playing the video games, and Cocaine he got on the piano.
Speaker 1: I don't suck me up to it, like Jerry, nigger,
Speaker 1: you played the buttherfucker got on the piano and talk
Speaker 1: like around like who nikka, we gotta do record. I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know you played. Jerry was playing the piano
Speaker 1: and ship. I didn't know that. And Cocaine is my homeboy. Jerry,
Speaker 1: you out there playing the piano. Real me up too.
Speaker 1: I was like this, nigga. I was like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: ship was crazy. Yeah, he had he had us all.
Speaker 1: And the fact, by fact, Cocaine was down there too.
Speaker 1: At the gym Blueshi ship, poc was talking kind of
Speaker 1: he was talking. He was talking some ship, my nigga,
Speaker 1: and I looked at Cocaine. I'm looking like, you know
Speaker 1: what's nigga? Saying, though it was some other ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But Apocas you gotta you just
Speaker 1: can't give us that man, And to go off of
Speaker 1: what kind of ship was he saying? It was so
Speaker 1: pro fun? What was I saying? Okay, man, okay, I
Speaker 1: would have to I would have to let I would
Speaker 1: have to let Chico something, you know, I let spoke
Speaker 1: tell you that, or to speaking as if he predicted
Speaker 1: the future. He knew it's comes for him. He yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like he was speaking spiritual body ship. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah he was. He was. He was. He was really
Speaker 1: he was going deep, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you think he knew he was gonna down. I believe
Speaker 1: people do know. I don't know what it was. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I was like I looked at a man
Speaker 1: because I don't smoke weight, So that motherfucker was so
Speaker 1: clouded out that I was like, there he had that cloudy.
Speaker 1: Even the lady came in like you gotta see your
Speaker 1: next line. She do like said was cloudy. He was like, guy,
Speaker 1: have to go through the libery quick come back in.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, damn my trip, And
Speaker 1: he was James a lot of a lot of people
Speaker 1: were saying that, you know, when he was around him,
Speaker 1: that he would would speak like he just go high.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying with everybody like here, he
Speaker 1: just go into like he could just innbody ship. He
Speaker 1: was with it. He was like he knew yeah, it
Speaker 1: just it was. It was it was deep. Just how
Speaker 1: you get the music. His his conversation and when you
Speaker 1: take it is beyond like they say, oh you ahead
Speaker 1: of your time. Yeah, a lot of people didn't understand it.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't understand it if you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But from the artists standpoint, I'm like, damn, okay, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, that was a weird
Speaker 1: time as far as orgo, because, like I talked about earlier,
Speaker 1: how some of the people on the streets came differentiate
Speaker 1: between somebody playing a movie role and realize you have
Speaker 1: some actors that came in and might have got some
Speaker 1: of those roles. They wound up going to jail and
Speaker 1: doing a little stuff like you had the homey m
Speaker 1: the other kid that used to play in all the movies,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Bonds, Oh that's my little knicks. I'm what I'm man,
Speaker 1: we got to get my nigga, and it we we
Speaker 1: argue a scuffle about this ship so much. I'm the
Speaker 1: motherfucker that got DeAndre started in this ship and it
Speaker 1: kind of hurt me a little bit. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I just like, I was just like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's like snoop. You know what I'm saying after you know,
Speaker 1: after death Row. You know what I'm saying, It would
Speaker 1: be a slap in the face. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying for him not to pay how muge and acknowledge
Speaker 1: the fact that you know what I'm saying, master peak
Speaker 1: over a man a super justice, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and just showing them the game, showing them, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, lacening and not just not just trying
Speaker 1: to keep him as no puppeteer like over belonging to me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, No, spread your wings. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is what you're supposed to do. You know, this
Speaker 1: is what we're all supposed to do. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And because it's all gonna come back full circle,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Instead of trying to rob
Speaker 1: somebody or trying to, you know, not show him the
Speaker 1: game and keep it off for yourself and you want
Speaker 1: all the money and on on the shine, Why not,
Speaker 1: stupid snoopers the super Star mega star, you know, let
Speaker 1: him shine like that so we can give it back
Speaker 1: and then it spread, you know like that. But that's
Speaker 1: like if he wouldn't acknowledge Pete for doing that every time.
Speaker 1: You always pay homage in say all the time. So look, um,
Speaker 1: but DeAndre Bond, I just finished the movies with him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's my little bro. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. A couple moves in top of that,
Speaker 1: I call him right now. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's my little nigga. But I tell he like nigga,
Speaker 1: check this out, nigga. Look, he was in front of
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's I'm going to an audition. I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell some hood audition and he outside selling candy and
Speaker 1: ship you feel me? So okay, I saw you know,
Speaker 1: leaders outside sending canny you know, okay, bam. So he
Speaker 1: was on my bumper, he said, side, Look I don't
Speaker 1: love man, what's happening? As I said, okay, hold I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to study my scripts up from
Speaker 1: just give me a minute. You know. He was on
Speaker 1: my bumper tough. I said, okay, So he like a script,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, you gotta said it, Kenny, But
Speaker 1: are you going did you? Did you give me one
Speaker 1: or agency or whatever? You're like, no, no, hypell hyper
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But the way he was
Speaker 1: coming at me, it was like, it's a little niggers eager.
Speaker 1: You know, you see a little young one. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And for those that don't know out there, DeAndre Bonds
Speaker 1: is the homie Stacy from the Wood, Stacy from the Wood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: stay for the Wood, nig Tails from the Hood, and
Speaker 1: right now he's killing it on snow snowfall right now.
Speaker 1: So so I said, so, I said, I said, look man,
Speaker 1: I said, check the staw. I said, hold up, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what fuck it? Let me go in here,
Speaker 1: because uh, Tony Robbie read Tony Lee. They was casting it,
Speaker 1: so Robbie wasn't there, but Tony Lee was in there.
Speaker 1: So I wive here. I said, Tony, Uh you think
Speaker 1: you could give him a script? Man? He said, the
Speaker 1: film have no you know, agency, call or represent you
Speaker 1: know like that. Then I don't know, man, I said,
Speaker 1: you said man. I said, look, that's what it's going
Speaker 1: man let him, you know. And Tony Lee was real
Speaker 1: about it. He said, don't give him one. I said, ship. Well,
Speaker 1: he gave him script. So I go outside and finished studying.
Speaker 1: I I'm gonna study. Who gonna study? I said, Plus
Speaker 1: I needed somebody to study with. Anybody, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to read it? I said, okay, he I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, Hony I said. I said, look, check
Speaker 1: this out. Give me your number. I'll call you. Call
Speaker 1: you a little bit. So this was on fair Fat
Speaker 1: and uh like Fairfax and thirds or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know what. That's what they was holding ship damn
Speaker 1: it right abound there and um ship. By the time
Speaker 1: I got to Crunshaw, the Earl's winning when Earls Winding
Speaker 1: was on ship. By time I got to picture wind,
Speaker 1: Nick Blow said, up after fall this is I said,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What were you at my name?
Speaker 1: He said at the time his mama stayed off Western,
Speaker 1: Mom and dad stay off Western in thirty something, I said, there,
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot through there. I shot through there
Speaker 1: and met his mama. I met his daddy before he passed,
Speaker 1: and ship, Um, it was cool. Mom's cool that ship.
Speaker 1: I said, fuck it. I took out a flat in
Speaker 1: the valley, so I took him to the valley so
Speaker 1: we could study and the ship. And then my brother
Speaker 1: was like, Jandre real hyper, He like, you know, he
Speaker 1: got something. You know, he's just real real, you know
Speaker 1: like that. So I know, I deal with that show.
Speaker 1: I know I'm that ship and knocked that ship off.
Speaker 1: But he really got you know. But besides that ship,
Speaker 1: so we're studying and we'll beat a couple of lines,
Speaker 1: couple lines going and going. We're going back and forth.
Speaker 1: Bam we get to read. I said, damn, nigga, you
Speaker 1: got this ship because I didn't read with the couple
Speaker 1: up family members and ship like that the help of
Speaker 1: a study. No, DeAndre was all that crazy ship. Do
Speaker 1: you do? Put that nigga in front of the script.
Speaker 1: It's a whole different motherfucker. Wow, man, I said, Man,
Speaker 1: you got it, I said, little honey, I said, Ben.
Speaker 1: So my brother was still talking about, well, how I
Speaker 1: said that shot up? What's I got to see? Like
Speaker 1: what he was? Hold up? You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: for this little nigga. Yeah, you don't see what I see.
Speaker 1: So we're studying and study bam. And so I said,
Speaker 1: then if we get this, look, we get a call back,
Speaker 1: we get a call back. Nigga, we're going front of
Speaker 1: producers ship. They like it. Nigga, that's nigger. That's it.
Speaker 1: Damn man. We went on his and you gotta call back.
Speaker 1: So y'all gotta call back Tom going, I gotta call back. Bam.
Speaker 1: We got it. He got. That's his first. He had
Speaker 1: some little ship we had with a little agents where
Speaker 1: he was doing some a little bit. But no, nigger,
Speaker 1: I told the na no, yo, you fucking with me, hommy.
Speaker 1: You was tell from the hood. Was everywhere. That was
Speaker 1: a major motion. It was in theaters. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: no little thing on you know, no thick. He was
Speaker 1: in theaters. So he went on blive. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: self ka, I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm by
Speaker 1: supped like way low don snoopies say, don't people my ship.
Speaker 1: You all the moles you and that's probably to go
Speaker 1: take you in there to get a script and do
Speaker 1: all this ship. You know what I'm saying, I took
Speaker 1: you didn't acknowledge you. He said something broad from we
Speaker 1: all y'all calling right now. I said, okay, just get
Speaker 1: your problem. Come on me, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: for real, you know, and then you know, he really,
Speaker 1: he really, you know, amazed me because we had a
Speaker 1: table read with Danny DeVito in um and Rea Palmer
Speaker 1: for a basketball movie. That basketball movie we went on
Speaker 1: that I didn't even get the motherfucker. He wind up
Speaker 1: getting it and he was on his way then then
Speaker 1: come h he got that. He landed that. But we
Speaker 1: did a table read, you know, just to see if
Speaker 1: they wanted to you know, get you know, the funk
Speaker 1: with us. You know, he wind up getting it there
Speaker 1: like this, Yeah, go through some wild ship. He's crazy. Crazy,
Speaker 1: you can drink drinking a little drink when we need
Speaker 1: to get crazy. And they will take that script go
Speaker 1: to and turn into a whole number and be like
Speaker 1: he got a book. Now a fact, not the factor.
Speaker 1: Now the fact he booked the Denzel's first uh uh
Speaker 1: directorial debut, which was before he before he caught that case.
Speaker 1: He did ten years with stabbing, you know, and now
Speaker 1: he got out from that and he's still doing an
Speaker 1: amazing you know job right now what he's doing. But
Speaker 1: he was he landed the role and that's when he
Speaker 1: wound up getting locked up. He leant like, you got
Speaker 1: the role and in two weeks we're gonna film or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know him Denzel you
Speaker 1: which I was like, oh he all the here he
Speaker 1: jumped in the ownnn wind up stabbing. It wasn't well
Speaker 1: you know with the case. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I said, Man, I said, and everybody that I got shipped.
Speaker 1: You know, I wound up sucking around. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It felt addicted to some ship. You know.
Speaker 1: That's why drugs and the ship like that ain't no good.
Speaker 1: I'll tell the kids, you know, that's that's from the heart.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I went struggles and ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, bounce back
Speaker 1: from that ship and you know, like I tell him, man,
Speaker 1: you know you're struggling with Homie. You could be twenty
Speaker 1: for Jupil times father Hony, because I see at so
Speaker 1: much particial in him. Man, It's just you know, he
Speaker 1: had to come to times with himself. Man, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate you sharing with us about your struggles with addition,
Speaker 1: if you've told me that before, I wouldn't have gave
Speaker 1: you that. Oh no, no, no, no no. But drink,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have immo. I used to drink a lot,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But now I might take
Speaker 1: a this drink right here. You might not see me
Speaker 1: drink like two months. I think. I think that's a
Speaker 1: harsh disease, you know what I mean. I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: nobody to think I'm insensitive towards nothing like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I appreciate that. No, but it ain't
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with drinking. It was some other ship,
Speaker 1: you know, off the back of book. Yeah, man, DeAndre, DeAndre,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know that's my little brother.
Speaker 1: Still I love it. Yeah, he's doing good for himself.
Speaker 1: Like you said, he one of the most popular characters
Speaker 1: on Snowfall. And you know, and what I was going
Speaker 1: through a fourth before we went to the whole thing
Speaker 1: about the Jandre. It seemed like a lot of brothers
Speaker 1: from that area era. It wasn't just life imitating art,
Speaker 1: it was art imitating life because you had to like
Speaker 1: even Homie from Boys in the Hood that dumped on
Speaker 1: Ricky and Alley. They said he was a dude from
Speaker 1: the valley and he wound up going to go get
Speaker 1: jumped into a real gag after yeah, yeah, yeah, then
Speaker 1: wind didn't wind up Boys in Hood, Um yeah for
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood. Oh boy, the dumped out the
Speaker 1: red car that dumped on Ricky with the twelve gage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wound up wanted to watch somewhere and getting jumped
Speaker 1: into a gag and wound up going to prison and
Speaker 1: wound up getting killed. He came up born again Christian
Speaker 1: and some dude killed him. Dude kill him in the hell? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it was a whole bunch of cats, like it was
Speaker 1: a couple of the cats. I don't recall right now,
Speaker 1: remember that? Remember that? Do you think it was? Because
Speaker 1: they you gotta remember the time that was on the
Speaker 1: weather coach from these movies came out and how lit
Speaker 1: that was. It was, it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It packed the whole world, man, impact the whole world.
Speaker 1: Because I'm ship, I didn't have people Africa, people, Amster, damn,
Speaker 1: you know, all over the world. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But that I'll be forgetting Like, damn movies, are you
Speaker 1: know different the world fucking wide? Yeah, you're watching the movie.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I wouldn't never say
Speaker 1: I was an actor, but I tell everybody it ain't
Speaker 1: nothing like that film. When you compare film to like
Speaker 1: music or anything else I've experienced all sides. Don't def
Speaker 1: and compare the movies. When you do a movie, I
Speaker 1: don't care. If you got this much for role in it,
Speaker 1: you would be in the McDonald's. People would come up
Speaker 1: to you and stare in your face. People would blow
Speaker 1: their horn ask you. People would knock on your door
Speaker 1: when they found out. I just wanted to see is
Speaker 1: this you? They false their TV's in the house. It's
Speaker 1: like y'all really came over to my crib to get
Speaker 1: me the show that stuff like, I don't know what's
Speaker 1: on there? Or they kes you like this. You'll be
Speaker 1: somewhere doing some normal stuff. You being a check fil
Speaker 1: with your family. What you doing here? And you like, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: I can't go to chick fil a. You think I
Speaker 1: got a million dollars sitting somewhere. I'm supposed to be
Speaker 1: my motherfucker's And they don't think you're supposed to be
Speaker 1: normal because you're in film and you're making money so
Speaker 1: rich motherfucker's don't come here that they don't They just
Speaker 1: can't fathom that they can't see it, you know, Like
Speaker 1: like I was, I was naive to the fact of
Speaker 1: you know, you can't just come over here and telling
Speaker 1: the director what you like. It's a certain ship that
Speaker 1: you just don't know until somebody, you know, school you
Speaker 1: up on it. People really think that it's really real.
Speaker 1: Now you had a cracking at one time. Do you
Speaker 1: think at any point you ever think you got drunk
Speaker 1: off your success in it? No? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it really what my thing is is, you know I
Speaker 1: feel like you know, um and in coming up I
Speaker 1: was young. You know, I'm saying, you know what they're
Speaker 1: like just like like like just with anybody, you know,
Speaker 1: like with snooping in like in in in in pocket,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know when you're looking up to
Speaker 1: people with big brothers and older older, older older people,
Speaker 1: they are supposed to like, Okay, I put my trust
Speaker 1: in you. You know what I'm saying. I'm the artist.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Of course you know that
Speaker 1: on means. But some people, the people behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: controlling the mechanicals, that's who the people you gotta watch,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And when you're young and
Speaker 1: you have all this money coming your way and fame
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you ain't thinking about you know,
Speaker 1: accountants and ship like that. You're thinking about ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got to stack the money. Don't want to grab
Speaker 1: these balls I'm about you know, you're just get some jury.
Speaker 1: You know, ship like they're really don't mean ship, but
Speaker 1: it's attractive because to the outside audience. That's that that
Speaker 1: you know, they tap in and you know, the groupies
Speaker 1: and and all that ship. You know they come because
Speaker 1: should come with the game, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when you you know, you're young, like the ship,
Speaker 1: it was babies, you know, so giving giving young people
Speaker 1: that money and millions of dollars and like that at
Speaker 1: twenty three and nineteen. You know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: didn't That didn't change you, That didn't make you feel
Speaker 1: like he was different up better than the next cat
Speaker 1: that was next to you. Umn, you can't tell me
Speaker 1: you want nothing knocking everything in the world. Now you
Speaker 1: want to moving you to what's happening part of the
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, I'll be ship. No, I have
Speaker 1: some fun. You know I didn't have some fun. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, for real and have some fun.
Speaker 1: You know, that's why I ain't got no license right
Speaker 1: next stop me? You know, ship just spending out in
Speaker 1: front of clubs, having the ball, just having fun, you know,
Speaker 1: as a kid. But you have to learn the mature
Speaker 1: and and you know I saw I respect motherfucker's like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, masterp easy and I'm I'm gonna say show
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying, because but it's certain
Speaker 1: things that I didn't like. You know that. You know that.
Speaker 1: But his master plan on executing ship and how you
Speaker 1: did this ship. You know what I'm saying. Sure night,
Speaker 1: a lot of ship that he did. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, people was just bypassing his moves away. He executed.
Speaker 1: But I did not like what he was doing. You know,
Speaker 1: as far as you know, to the artists and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying, you should be
Speaker 1: you should, you should everybody should give them what they
Speaker 1: You know what I always say this, I messed a
Speaker 1: couple of times. I ain't gonna say me and him
Speaker 1: with friends and no ship like that. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just get I met a couple of times. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: he definitely made mistakes, but I think some of the stuff.
Speaker 1: I think some of the stuff he did though, you
Speaker 1: still you know, you put his mistakes in the pile
Speaker 1: over here, and you look at the other ship he did.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's he mastered the mind some ship that wasn't easy ship.
Speaker 1: You know, he knew to keep pieces he needed to get,
Speaker 1: like he knew to go grab this man to go
Speaker 1: do what he needed to go do. He knew to go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got this dude, that's go help me getting an
Speaker 1: im and go get dred And he wanted that's not
Speaker 1: no easy. He's gonna take that chance, put money and
Speaker 1: put it where it supposed to be to make ship happen.
Speaker 1: It's almost just like we're sitting here right now. I'm
Speaker 1: me telling James that you know what, man, We're gonna
Speaker 1: go up here and we go holid this motherfucker. We
Speaker 1: go holid at this motherfucker le or Coleen around YouTube
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go talk to tell us, nigga, he
Speaker 1: go give us you know what you feel. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's some cool ship that motherfucker did. Nik It was
Speaker 1: a bodyguard came here this ship. You tell him what,
Speaker 1: you tell him what your vision is. He's gonna say
Speaker 1: like this, he goes see the vision and then he's
Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, I'm gonna get the best
Speaker 1: motherfucker that that whatever you're trying to do, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get them to put him right in front of
Speaker 1: you and execute what your post. Whether it's a video,
Speaker 1: whether it's it's shooting a fit, whether it's whatever you're
Speaker 1: trying to do a record, I'm gonna get the best
Speaker 1: motherfucker for the job. You know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: Sugar wasn't in. They're typing in and doing no ship
Speaker 1: like that. But what he did was he said, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I know I need the best fucking promotional tool people,
Speaker 1: So who you work for? Okay, here come here man.
Speaker 1: She a lot of that was Big West thought. He
Speaker 1: got that from Big Well, she learned from Big West,
Speaker 1: but they've all learned from Big Griffy. Yeah, Griffy was
Speaker 1: the head starter. That's the toad, Big West, and and
Speaker 1: that's where he got managing money and how you give
Speaker 1: your people money because Dick and West starting, well, don't
Speaker 1: give him, don't give him what they work because you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna see your money like you share. So they
Speaker 1: don't get rich until you get rich. And that's the
Speaker 1: way the motherfucking music industry. You ain't gonna be rich
Speaker 1: before me. I'm the man that's that. And that's how
Speaker 1: you got that. How that's how that bro. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that that's good. I gotta ask you
Speaker 1: this questions because you mentioned that you kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to be an artist more than the actor, you being
Speaker 1: a youngster at the time. And I know, man, that
Speaker 1: music money cannot funk with movie money. No it can't.
Speaker 1: But I can't, you know, I just I've been seeing
Speaker 1: you know, I've been beating on tables and walls and
Speaker 1: ships ever since elementary. That was music my first one.
Speaker 1: I would do a record just to be doing that's
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, it's my highest Like
Speaker 1: I love music, but you know, I just happened to
Speaker 1: stumble into the films, so I love doing films. I
Speaker 1: already know that because you know what this music ship
Speaker 1: that they got all the little creative accounting practices and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Motherfucker's don't never get. It's like I
Speaker 1: talk to motherfucker's that don't sold. It'd be funny you
Speaker 1: sunk to motherfucking on sold to a three million albums
Speaker 1: and black Wood, Man, I ain't making nothing but this
Speaker 1: now you'd like because it's that's that, that's that industry
Speaker 1: where they robbing you like a blind because that and
Speaker 1: that goes to to show that that goes to say like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's why I respect more Funcker's like you know, Masterpiece
Speaker 1: and the ones that that that show you entrepreneurialship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to show you how to go
Speaker 1: out there and get and and show you again like look, man,
Speaker 1: this is what this how you do your ship. Because
Speaker 1: if that was the case, snooping them would have been
Speaker 1: doing that and when they had to go through that
Speaker 1: ship with But if you don't know, if you catch
Speaker 1: somebody that's naive to the game and don't know, then
Speaker 1: you're taking advantage of somebody. And that's not cool. And
Speaker 1: that's what that's the only thing that I do. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, we get taking advantage of you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And you know that's that's basically
Speaker 1: what what drading like what easy? You know easy kind
Speaker 1: of you know, hustlers for a real street. So nobody
Speaker 1: man came and told him a little something. Okay, ma'am,
Speaker 1: Now now you're turning on your your partners. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was the money. Though I'm looking
Speaker 1: like this, I'm easy. I put this ship together, so
Speaker 1: basically this is mine. So I'm in control so I
Speaker 1: can give you what I want to give you that
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna give you nothing. But the talent is
Speaker 1: the cats you fucking with. You know, Drake told him
Speaker 1: out of wrap. But but see, but everything you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So you're supposed to get Let's see,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. He wouldn't even get That's what
Speaker 1: That's what that's the that's the cutout many and what
Speaker 1: I did. At the same time, it's like, but still,
Speaker 1: you know ship even re ship? What then come you
Speaker 1: got records? You got you don't hit motherfucking records. You're old.
Speaker 1: Some money, give me my money. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's a cutthrow game. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: music industry it's it's it's some bullshit, And yeah, I
Speaker 1: respect the fact of how I should have to do
Speaker 1: because you have to slap a cup of these motherfuckers
Speaker 1: across the head, you know what I'm saying. But then
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well, now what do you do? You know,
Speaker 1: it's like a dog, you know what I'm saying, Look,
Speaker 1: kill the dog. That's my Yeah, let that motherfucker turn around,
Speaker 1: bite you, bite your kids. You gotta kill that. You
Speaker 1: gotta put it down, you gotta get the But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's like, that's that's like ship with rad
Speaker 1: like it felt like he's like Dre probably felt like damn,
Speaker 1: you know, because Drake was with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're slapping motherfucker's up and you kind of got tired
Speaker 1: all that ship in the studio with us. But you know,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of ship going on, and it
Speaker 1: was cool when it was you know, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, who a lot of ship going on,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But was it necessary for music?
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I'm saying. None of that ship
Speaker 1: was necessary? Now see, you do you know how much.
Speaker 1: I always I always say this like goddamn, like you know,
Speaker 1: all the motherfucker's because everybody was tuned in the death
Speaker 1: from how many motherfuckers. Everybody was trying to sign that
Speaker 1: more Buster run people, but they were they was coming
Speaker 1: for Dre. They wanted to be where Drake was at.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They wanted to pople Dre
Speaker 1: was there. So if he would have just gave everybody
Speaker 1: what the funk they man, he would have had whoever
Speaker 1: been on that eve uh Buster runs, he would have
Speaker 1: fifty cents everybody, you know what I'm saying, It would
Speaker 1: have been showed up. It would have been showed up.
Speaker 1: He would have This is all the people that that
Speaker 1: should would have because everybody wanted up going then they
Speaker 1: wanted to go to act the math, So he would
Speaker 1: have he would had. He would have been the biggest
Speaker 1: fucking over. But he was trying wound up running in
Speaker 1: his score records. As I'm pretty sure Shimmy would have retired,
Speaker 1: he'd probably rang in his score. He'd probably been a
Speaker 1: part of the pay phone deal that right now to
Speaker 1: day it was still going strong, and she would have
Speaker 1: been worth over a bill, you know, about trillion there
Speaker 1: now way over I'm saying, you know, if that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, would ignorance that come with it? Like, man,
Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, how how real did you keep it?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, would always tell people. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, devil answered prayers just like God. Dude. Man,
Speaker 1: So sometimes man, everything that litterally ain't go because you know,
Speaker 1: should he You know he did, man, everybody knows, you know,
Speaker 1: his nefarious you know past. But at the same talking,
Speaker 1: he kept motherfucker's out of jail, He kept motherfucker's j
Speaker 1: I'm saying he did. He did some good ship. You know,
Speaker 1: he could have done better. And and that's what I
Speaker 1: tell people, Man, I don't capitalize on his positive positive stuff.
Speaker 1: Always always are negative. You know what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: you ever noticed the motherfucker's that do right. They may
Speaker 1: not get it as fast as you know the other
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that's moving kind of crooked, but the motherfucker's just
Speaker 1: moving with honor and their ship. They seemed to have
Speaker 1: more longevity and they eventually get everything that they got
Speaker 1: coming to him. He would have got that, but he
Speaker 1: felt that you know, he was mentioning something in his life,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up in the hood and seeing us
Speaker 1: walking block. Man, I want to be like, damn man,
Speaker 1: I'm my mom and got me like the motherfucker's I was.
Speaker 1: I want to hang out and the home girls. He
Speaker 1: didn't have that life. So when he got a taste
Speaker 1: of it and he had the money to go with it,
Speaker 1: the power was just too much fun. He was overcharged,
Speaker 1: so he didn't know what to do with it, and
Speaker 1: he wouldn't drink. Played the background. Don't start me and
Speaker 1: a man I used to have him. You don't do
Speaker 1: no fucking magazines and all that other ship. You ain't
Speaker 1: taking no picture, don't do no interviews. They don't need
Speaker 1: to see you. Because I was the reason for us
Speaker 1: to be there. Whatever needs to be done, we're going
Speaker 1: off this. We're gonna go and handle that. You don't
Speaker 1: have to this, so you you could, he could have
Speaker 1: said at home, but he wanted to be a part
Speaker 1: of the Gamester ship. He wanted and when he got
Speaker 1: a taste of it, it's like a pit bull tasting blood,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He couldn't quit now, so
Speaker 1: that was his downphat Now you come to now your
Speaker 1: gang member. Now you're working with different bitches. Now it
Speaker 1: comes the liquor. She never drunk a day in his life.
Speaker 1: He didn't drink like that. Then here comes with all
Speaker 1: through the parties and ship bitches putting his ship on him.
Speaker 1: And now you're not thinking like a business man. No,
Speaker 1: the only thing you are as a gainster with money,
Speaker 1: and that you're gonna deplete that because if you don't
Speaker 1: get killed like the rest of the motherfucker's getting killed,
Speaker 1: you're gonna wind up where your penitentiary hasn't. And that's
Speaker 1: the old route that we take. Either you're gonna die
Speaker 1: or go to jail. Jail, your money don't mean the
Speaker 1: motherfucking thing. And that's where that's the only reason why
Speaker 1: that brothers in the place where he's at today. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did good things. He saved snoop life. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What Snoop looked like being doing twenty
Speaker 1: five thirty years in the state penitentiary. Shoot, I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: Snoop acknowledge that. But what Master P done for him was, Man,
Speaker 1: you really got me where I need to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: he took on, he took on the row of like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna sell you everything that you need to
Speaker 1: spread your wings and do your things. Just let me
Speaker 1: give you my cut and spread your wings and go
Speaker 1: do your period of mind. I don't want the best game.
Speaker 1: You don't want to take you and make you like
Speaker 1: oh if I'm just wanting to do none of that.
Speaker 1: He didn't milk him. I just gave you hit man.
Speaker 1: This is the game. This is what it is gonna do.
Speaker 1: And that's what That's what everybody that that that you
Speaker 1: know that's doing this entrepreneurial thing for that artist. Man,
Speaker 1: period point black. You know what I'm saying. You already
Speaker 1: give money. Let me know what I'm saying. You want
Speaker 1: another boat? You want another how many boats're gonna have?
Speaker 1: You don't even because you're gonna have man that ship. Man,
Speaker 1: it's about leaving a legacy and leaving your name not tornish.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What was like, Okay, they're
Speaker 1: gonna frown on you or they're gonna, hey, man, they
Speaker 1: crown you master. Like this, If I if I made
Speaker 1: thirty niggas millionaires, if I went broke today, five of
Speaker 1: you motherfucker's that I made millionaires, gonna come look out
Speaker 1: from me. Thank you, you feel me? Thank you. So
Speaker 1: he's the smartest motherfucker that I only goddamn promo. Now
Speaker 1: he invested in somebody that's gonna invest in him if
Speaker 1: he ever fall off, that's gang. That's that. And then
Speaker 1: you know he couldn't count man, So you know that's
Speaker 1: that's that's you know, that's in my movie. But I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do you know what I'm saying and things,
Speaker 1: you know, getting myself back in and focus, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because everybody goes through the up state
Speaker 1: downs and then you know, ship too. I just lost
Speaker 1: I lost my dad too, So that's kind of like
Speaker 1: but I ain't trying to throw no no, no ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't know excuses, but
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, I gotta I gotta got
Speaker 1: a few things in the kim. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that that you know, shows and ship like that,
Speaker 1: you know drama series that you know that I wrote,
Speaker 1: and ship you know like kind of something like power
Speaker 1: and all that type of ship like yeah that h yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this to you because I had a
Speaker 1: problem when my mom's passed. I didn't want to embrace it.
Speaker 1: Embrace your pop's death and makes you a better person,
Speaker 1: especially if you're hold on all the good ship. And
Speaker 1: so you understand what I'm saying to you. Embrace it
Speaker 1: because that's what we're here for. We're born to doctor.
Speaker 1: So Pops did this thing. You got a great son
Speaker 1: out of it, you know what I'm saying. Embrace that
Speaker 1: part of it. You won't feel bad at all once
Speaker 1: you Once you embrace everything, so you won't feel bad.
Speaker 1: You won't think nothing. You're gonna move on with your
Speaker 1: life and do everything from that day forward to show
Speaker 1: him and whomever that you're that man and what what
Speaker 1: you're a product of. And everybody don't fight it. Brother, Yeah,
Speaker 1: time time you got some you are And I tell
Speaker 1: people that's all the time. I'm gon till eight this
Speaker 1: because I think people wanted them. They don't see it.
Speaker 1: You probably wanted to record most recognizable people from that era. Man,
Speaker 1: are we gonna get some new stuff from you? Man?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna start getting out here? Man? You can
Speaker 1: jumping jumping. I got a couple of films coming out.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of films coming out right now,
Speaker 1: Like like right before COVID, I got on with Nick Cannon,
Speaker 1: Chris Brown and uh Baby and Safety Entertainment. It's called
Speaker 1: she Ball and it happened. They never came out yet,
Speaker 1: but he said it's it's coming like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that COVID had uh stopped up. In fact,
Speaker 1: I did them. There two or three films with DeAndre too,
Speaker 1: but I got one. It's called Blood Sacrifice from me
Speaker 1: him and uh uh O getting Mr Tan isn't too.
Speaker 1: Mr Tanna was in the Baby Boy. That's me right there.
Speaker 1: Mr Tan crazy if he played my brother and the
Speaker 1: motherfucker Mr Mr Tan get off to it. That motherfucker too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Um Ship Oh girl from uh Basketball Wives is in it.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of people. It's it's really like a
Speaker 1: good good film. It's coming out. Ship Uh. I got
Speaker 1: a couple. I got a couple of cup of films
Speaker 1: coming out. You know what I'm saying right now? My stuff,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get behind the scenes and producing and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know. Yeah, so man direct, but
Speaker 1: I most definitely want to do. That's what I'm doing
Speaker 1: right now. So I already got um already got the
Speaker 1: the script of the first episode written out. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, uh, in script for him and and
Speaker 1: you know I've been doing the smoothie thing for me,
Speaker 1: so it's it's right, It's right, yeah, for sure. Man,
Speaker 1: where can people hit you up? Bacause don't know? We
Speaker 1: get this man? You like, um, I was looking for
Speaker 1: your social media to day and I said, man, it's
Speaker 1: like this, dude, just don't try to move off the
Speaker 1: earth and so man, and you know and like my, my, my,
Speaker 1: my people today he you know what I'm saying, my
Speaker 1: part of the manager team. U you know, you get
Speaker 1: you get ready to give me the start. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's it's a whole new because I wasn't
Speaker 1: tapping into this, you know, this new era that's just
Speaker 1: you know where you gotta do. You know how many
Speaker 1: people probably been trying to find you man for different stuff,
Speaker 1: for leaving me. I know, I know, I just wouldn't tapping.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell you. I wouldn't. But that's not tell
Speaker 1: James too, because I'm like James, you know, man, these
Speaker 1: people hitting me up trying to hear James up for this,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I grow up with that and then at
Speaker 1: me Instagram and I have to I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: do none of that ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was glad when the when the phones came. But
Speaker 1: other than that, man, I don't do that yet. So
Speaker 1: I gotta tap being spectively with doing then my clothing lines,
Speaker 1: stuff like that bab Boon Goons. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's my Babboon Goon enterprise. Uh is my um his name,
Speaker 1: my uh, my lebel and stuff like that. So in
Speaker 1: my entertainment company, so um, I have to. So that's
Speaker 1: what we're doing right now. We're getting ready vamped websites
Speaker 1: and you know, stuff for my clothing and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Ended for the drama series. The drama series is called
Speaker 1: The Halls, like you know, because that's where I wasn't
Speaker 1: fortune and a half you know what I'm saying. Before
Speaker 1: the movie for Mins Society, I was locked up two
Speaker 1: and a half years and the Halls Kidnap Robert, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like running you know, see, well
Speaker 1: we go we're gonna touch on that a little bit.
Speaker 1: So you did two and a half years, so as
Speaker 1: your youth spent to a half of your youth, damn
Speaker 1: man and juvenile went to juvenile. I was fighting. I
Speaker 1: was just I was housed it still more. How is
Speaker 1: it uh not help people Central Centis Hall? You know,
Speaker 1: I've got to fighting a little bit too much, and
Speaker 1: they sent me to us still more and then I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I went to help people for a little bit, but
Speaker 1: not there then um uh from there, Um I did
Speaker 1: ninety day observation in the youth Party. And if I've
Speaker 1: forgotten to anything there, I would have been there since
Speaker 1: I was twenty five, so wouldn't been on this society.
Speaker 1: And actually it kind of it was a turn for
Speaker 1: the worst for the better because I wind up. Um
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because when you go down for your for wreck, you
Speaker 1: go down to wreck, you know you can't go back.
Speaker 1: You can't go back. And back then they was letting
Speaker 1: you smoke humps and ships smoke smoke cigarettes and ship
Speaker 1: feel me. And there was a hole and through through them,
Speaker 1: through our dudes, through the next sale, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So um, it was all kind of crazy. Ship.
Speaker 1: So if you get somebody new coming in, motherfucker and
Speaker 1: there was some funck shit, some bullshit, you know, seeing
Speaker 1: like okay to check this out, pistons cutting, I'm squeezed
Speaker 1: that motherucker. It was this all kind of ship going though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I wind up getting
Speaker 1: the package. My brother had sent me a package, and
Speaker 1: ship soon send me a package, and uh, and I
Speaker 1: went down for I forgot my chest boards ship, so
Speaker 1: I said damn, And I said, man and the steel
Speaker 1: that was kind of cool. And said, man, man, I
Speaker 1: know you just go to those houses and we go.
Speaker 1: Just go grab my board real quick, man, go go
Speaker 1: hurry up. So as I'm going back to my cell
Speaker 1: and Lou I got a new CELLI, and here this
Speaker 1: motherfucker was smashing my motherfucking snickers, ready to fish my
Speaker 1: snickers through two cells down this ship. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: mother's going your ceiling steels. No, he was my CELLI,
Speaker 1: but he didn't go up for reck. He didn't go
Speaker 1: up for reck. He stayed in the cell. So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have never called it, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So while I'm going for wreck, but I wind up saying,
Speaker 1: oh shot, I forgot my board. So by the time
Speaker 1: I'm doing that he probably watching thinking I couldn't go
Speaker 1: back down, because you can't. You once you once, once
Speaker 1: you up, you can't go back to your cell. That
Speaker 1: running back yourself. You up here to the pop group
Speaker 1: and didn't go back cell. So I I really go on,
Speaker 1: and so he's let me fam, let me run back
Speaker 1: to my cell real quick. This motherfucker was already smashing
Speaker 1: my snickers damp. So reader, reader, they like the fly
Speaker 1: a little ceo. This ship they come through passing out
Speaker 1: cigarettes and ship. If you really read about give me home,
Speaker 1: give me home, they gold booty and ship. So everybody
Speaker 1: like you know, so um damn. So I caught that ship.
Speaker 1: I said, hey man, this mother fucking fishing my ship. Man,
Speaker 1: I hold up? Who? He said? We talked about this,
Speaker 1: We talked about that shot out to you already went
Speaker 1: down the room and come on, that's off, all right,
Speaker 1: thank you whatever. So it was hot, so just get
Speaker 1: back to see them like now now I'm beat your
Speaker 1: mother's hold on. I knew if I got into any
Speaker 1: more ship. That's why I was on the ninety day
Speaker 1: out because um, yeah, say, he's like, who So I've
Speaker 1: been in mother Fun's house from five so um damn
Speaker 1: so reading them like they like they weren't listening because
Speaker 1: everybody being on the thing. But I'm beating hard than
Speaker 1: motherfucker right up, like i' and this motherfucking fishing my ship.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm just like, now hold on, so um
Speaker 1: everybody else said, well, let me just wait to this
Speaker 1: motherfucking hole. You know, they do the count do hall
Speaker 1: ship and people say so I wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: tell them say they weren't listening. They weren't listening. I said,
Speaker 1: fund this ship, I said, Man, I just wind up, peoples.
Speaker 1: They wind up coming through with being actually to shooting
Speaker 1: being back. Did that then? Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I just couldn't take it, you know, because I
Speaker 1: was like, there ain't nobody missing these business. Ain't you
Speaker 1: know that staff? You know I'm at the time they
Speaker 1: want to see all whatever, But like you ain't sucking listening,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's you know where
Speaker 1: the justice said this. I'm still in my ship. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do the right things. M h, don't turn
Speaker 1: it off. Yeah, I'm trying to do the right thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because it ain't way. But
Speaker 1: luckily I had um not even that she was black,
Speaker 1: but she was as cool as well. I had to
Speaker 1: go to little board ship and I told, I said, now,
Speaker 1: I said, now, I did everything I could. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to write no tell of grievers. I
Speaker 1: did everything. He was fishing my stuff, and you know,
Speaker 1: I know I'm what I'm looking at. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I did everything, but I had no
Speaker 1: choice fishing and man, luckily she was like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying at the time line and when I
Speaker 1: did it, and how she interviewed reading them, and she said, baby,
Speaker 1: don I ain't gonna worry about it. I would have
Speaker 1: been there. I was twenty five, wouldn't because I didn't
Speaker 1: mind society at eighteen nineteen, you feel me, so fourteen
Speaker 1: and a half, fifteen six, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to feel me the twenty half a year, so it
Speaker 1: was like, man, I would wouldn't have been a mini society,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I never forget that ship,
Speaker 1: like man. So I got past that and then went
Speaker 1: to lockdown placement and didn't want to move with my
Speaker 1: daddy my mom and didn't want me back in l A.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like that, So she moved
Speaker 1: my daddy he was moving Rancho Cucaman moved out there,
Speaker 1: and I was trying to put my little brother and
Speaker 1: sister commercials and ship and ship from there. You know,
Speaker 1: I said, ship, I ain't got nothing to do. It
Speaker 1: was it was like summertimes, ship, I said. And they
Speaker 1: sent him to like an acting little thing. It's called
Speaker 1: Actors Unlimited. And what you do is you go. They
Speaker 1: have you study a script like it's like it's a
Speaker 1: play for like two and a half weeks and then
Speaker 1: um they have to think at the Hilton. So when
Speaker 1: you go on stage and performing in the audience, it's
Speaker 1: not you know, it's family and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: it's managers agents and they like Scotland. So if they
Speaker 1: like you what they see what you perform there, I'll
Speaker 1: they giving me your card. So after the ship they
Speaker 1: man like they was giving your cards and a lot
Speaker 1: of them. You know, they was giving We did get
Speaker 1: it though. It was giving us cards and may Leon
Speaker 1: dream So that was the best. Didn't happen to you?
Speaker 1: Going moving with powers with my daddy right with my daddy, Man,
Speaker 1: you know you're being locked up at such a young age. Man,
Speaker 1: do you ever feel like they had an impact on
Speaker 1: your life? Do you find mannerisms that you have now
Speaker 1: to come from back then? Um? I mean ship, You know,
Speaker 1: things are different, kind of different, kind of different these days.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying with this error now, it's
Speaker 1: it's differently. Every error is different. You know, we're different
Speaker 1: in our area that we grew up with our parents
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, they grew up with,
Speaker 1: you know, a different type of you know, every error
Speaker 1: is different better, it's gonna be worse, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, um, I feel like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not you know the saying do nothing what I went through?
Speaker 1: You know what, you know, I just didn't. I just
Speaker 1: didn't like, you know, a lot of the things that
Speaker 1: was playing out, you know, in my neighborhood. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know the fact you see we're
Speaker 1: having to nephic you know what I'm saying. But those
Speaker 1: you can't a lot of different neighborhoods, right, And you're thinking,
Speaker 1: like I used to think, some things we can't control
Speaker 1: in the hood. We ain't We could be that nigg
Speaker 1: in the hood. But we ain't that nigger name right here.
Speaker 1: We're thinking that certain ship got to be a certain
Speaker 1: win and everybody gonna be on the same page. You
Speaker 1: would never get the homies to think alike, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So having the ship that we was
Speaker 1: worried about, it was our problems right now in the day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, worrying about the wrong ship.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you was lucky because you had you
Speaker 1: had your pops to go live with, and it took
Speaker 1: you out the hood. It took you away from the bullshit.
Speaker 1: It took you to a place where now you can
Speaker 1: focus and now you see some difference. You feel me,
Speaker 1: And that's all. That's all. Any that's all any That's
Speaker 1: all anybody that's in the in the city, and all
Speaker 1: you need to do is see something different. Everybody don't
Speaker 1: get the opportunity, that opportunity you see something different. Like, wow, man,
Speaker 1: I liked it because when I when um, like when
Speaker 1: I started, when I before minutes, you know, I went
Speaker 1: on a couple of videos. I was like, she said,
Speaker 1: I'm like to get back in and fifty dollars all day.
Speaker 1: You see the all day with videos. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But on the video she see me on
Speaker 1: was Carming Electra She wouldn't know, but nobody knew who
Speaker 1: carming next. But money Love was money Love. She was
Speaker 1: on the video thing and guess who artists it was
Speaker 1: Carming a lecture. I'm looking, I'm walking up and that's Prince.
Speaker 1: I said, we worked, but I said this ship cray,
Speaker 1: I stopped. You know, I was like, I never see
Speaker 1: I'm come from, you know, the neighbor you see. I'm like,
Speaker 1: and that's the print I like, I said, I told,
Speaker 1: I said, you know you're gonna have to send me
Speaker 1: on more stuff because I was said, I was curb
Speaker 1: s you know it. You know, you know double ups
Speaker 1: and ship. You know what I'm saying, Like I'm making
Speaker 1: more money. You know, you know I wouldn't trip. But
Speaker 1: I was like, I like what I was seeing, like damn,
Speaker 1: this cool all day. But what I was seeing like, damn,
Speaker 1: I met this person at that's probably like that ship.
Speaker 1: Like I want to I want to I want to
Speaker 1: see you know when you gotta see me? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: should be in Toxic Katon, Yeah, because it's like, you know, damn,
Speaker 1: right here you see on TV, but you're like, damn,
Speaker 1: what we here. That's kind of like that with Cue Too.
Speaker 1: I ain't don't lie. I was like, you know, this ship,
Speaker 1: come on, man. I was like, it's cute, and I
Speaker 1: just don't I started. I started working with it. F
Speaker 1: Gary Gray, you know, the director, and he was like,
Speaker 1: let's go down to the Jamie Fox show. Feel me.
Speaker 1: That's how I wind up getting it, uh Players Club,
Speaker 1: because he was like, left, we just you know, it's
Speaker 1: uh uh Gary Gray. We started hanging a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, tough and ship, and I'm going you know,
Speaker 1: I was hanging out of ship when parties of ship.
Speaker 1: He was like, fucking what was that? I think could
Speaker 1: pick me up from all of my house? Was like,
Speaker 1: my mama, come down the l a who he picked
Speaker 1: me up. Let's go down the Jamie Fox said, so
Speaker 1: I fuck it. Westside Connection was on there, so man,
Speaker 1: we get down there and um bam we were in
Speaker 1: the back, you know, and behind the scenes and ship
Speaker 1: and boom they get off. Stay they're performing whatever they're doing,
Speaker 1: and a cute passed me said, okay, ship, take on
Speaker 1: like them, but this ice cube ship. But then you know,
Speaker 1: I went to the process he got you know, ABC
Speaker 1: ship and did that and you know, wind up doing
Speaker 1: an audition. But it was crazy. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, see Princy, let me just see you. You know.
Speaker 1: I sometimes I'll be forgetting who I am sometimes and
Speaker 1: the fact that I'll be just you know, just um,
Speaker 1: well that's what I was saying. Man. It's like I
Speaker 1: guarantee you as people out there, they want to see
Speaker 1: you bro oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'd be forgetting the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: because I'm I'll be fan of people you know too,
Speaker 1: like damn, I'm fan of more and they really be
Speaker 1: fans out there, like like trip me out, like themn Africa,
Speaker 1: like the movie let me ask you have from from
Speaker 1: your neighborhood. I know it's little kids that seeing you
Speaker 1: in the movies and then and they're probably looking at
Speaker 1: you like wow, wow he from over here. Have you
Speaker 1: ever thought about going to the hood and grab three
Speaker 1: of them or two of them and say them me
Speaker 1: in to do shout of this? Why they young? Now? Um,
Speaker 1: that's what That's really what I'm going to do when
Speaker 1: with my drama series, when I when out when I
Speaker 1: get up and get off the ground. You know, it's
Speaker 1: already going right now, We're already in the process of
Speaker 1: investors and stuff like that to get it going. But
Speaker 1: it actually it's called the Dolls. You know what I'm saying. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, it's cool, this is this is gonna
Speaker 1: be one, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play. I'm gonna be in it, playing it because
Speaker 1: I went up when I was in there, um staff member.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna play one of cricket staff members.
Speaker 1: But they ain't gonna just take place in the juvene
Speaker 1: at hall. It's gonna actually you know, it's a character
Speaker 1: named Barbara J. Whitman. She's a volunteer and wants the
Speaker 1: questions that she asked the six juven asked. When she
Speaker 1: asked six juveniles, you know, she asked a question like
Speaker 1: we have a It's like that's like a meeting. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that you know that you come
Speaker 1: out yourself for an hour, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And we heard and you know she picked your brain.
Speaker 1: So when she picking your brain asks the questions, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you want to speak to talk.
Speaker 1: That's when when she talk, that's how we get hot here.
Speaker 1: You know, they might be in here. That's that intervention.
Speaker 1: What are you're talking about? So we might up as
Speaker 1: she begins to be tell the story. That's how we
Speaker 1: get to the outside and show all the streets. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like them need weekly minutes to society
Speaker 1: or boys in the hood. It's gonna be like the wire.
Speaker 1: You know what's gonna be. It's gonna be like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's gonna be crazy
Speaker 1: right there. Man, Well, I appreciate you coming home. Man,
Speaker 1: it's been a long time coming. Man. Shout out to
Speaker 1: the Homi. Try man for for connecting us man, and
Speaker 1: you know, and and influences. Man. You know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta mix you. I gotta mixtion the homies. Man, try
Speaker 1: if you want to getting them Mike real quickly. People, Man,
Speaker 1: come come home. Man. Yes, something they think you know,
Speaker 1: we got we got a famous angel and our restarto
Speaker 1: gold all these my TikTok's overhead TMG part of the media. Thomas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got a whole another thing. They ain't gonna Facebook
Speaker 1: socialia Facebook. They got like a million follow books with him.
Speaker 1: Was follower there like like, you know, they just see
Speaker 1: this and they just they just posted them on world
Speaker 1: started day when the video you never seen us, You've
Speaker 1: never seen the man, I ain't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: nothing about it. Right there, that's the dude right there,
Speaker 1: the m Kim Kurkdashi from Kanye who wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you fucking kill Yeah? Twice, only twice, only twice. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we ain't bullshit. There were serious going on. Have been
Speaker 1: nothing Kim down though, um like two years. He's serious
Speaker 1: as a motherfucker. Oh my mama. Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: So that's why Kanye left. It's more than that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I don't really want right, you
Speaker 1: know what? And don that no man, y'all tapped back
Speaker 1: in with his next week. We got of here, man,
Speaker 1: we out of here. You know what? Man, how much
Speaker 1: of that body is faking? How much? Well? That concludes
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