1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with defensive tackle Travis Jones today. 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: And Travis, I'll start here. You know, last year, I 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you're kind of a quieter guy. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like the rookies are on the 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: back wall in the locker room. How many interviews did 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: you do last year because I feel like you kind 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: of flew under the radar. 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, last year I did about one. Yeah, after I 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: got that sack at the Giants game, had one person 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: come up to me. That's about it. 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: But see, you're such a nice guy. 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what what was going on the media 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: felt like threatened or what was it. 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: I actually have to I tried to hide from the 16 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: media when it came after. That's one thing i'd try 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: to do. 18 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: That's going to work for you this year. 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Let's hope not exactly. 20 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: So, Yeah, I mean, your your role, you kind of, 21 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: as we're mentioning here, is going to grow. You know 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: with Kalayis leaving going down to Atlanta, Just what are 23 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: your feelings about that? 24 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? With Kalas leaving, you know, he had a big 25 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: part on the d line making plays every game, and 26 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: I feel like with him leaving, just give some of 27 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: the younger guys a chance to go out there show 28 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: so that would make plays, right. 29 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 5: I mean, you already contributed a lot as a rookie, 30 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 5: but coming into this year, I think with Kalayis's absence too. 31 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 4: You talked about you being a little quieter of a guy. 32 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 5: Khalayis's voice is missing on the practice field. We're you 33 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 5: used to hearing him booming from like a field over. 34 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 5: Who do you think is gonna fill that kind of 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 5: void that he left. 36 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, during OTAs Mike Pierce starts speaking up a lot. 37 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: Varady Washington at a BK and those guys, those are 38 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: the guys I look up to. 39 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have kind of a deep voice, quite Kalais's level, 40 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: but maybe you could get down. 41 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what you think. Could you do like 42 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: a kalas impersonational We don't ask you to think. 43 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: I think I could, but I won't. 44 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, you, Yeah, there you go, I got you. Yeah. So, 45 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: I mean, what did you take away from your rookie year? 46 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: What we What were some of the biggest kind of 47 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: lessons that you learned? That you you bring into your 48 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: stuff for season. 49 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: For my rookie year, beginning towards the beginning of the year, 50 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: I feel like things moving a little fast for me. 51 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: And towards the back end, last like five six games, 52 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: I feel like everything starts slowing down for me. I 53 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: started making more plays and going to my second year, 54 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: I just want to show improvement. 55 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and how much did you know early on you 56 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: had that knee injury and it was really a shame, 57 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, preseason knee injury, and it felt like it 58 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: kind of just as you were getting going and stuff 59 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: like that, it slowed you down. Did you feel like 60 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: that kind of was a hurdle that you needed to 61 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: get over. 62 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, with that knee injury, I felt like it slowed 63 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: me down for a little bit. But like I said, 64 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: towards the end of the season, I wasn't thinking about 65 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: it as much. I was just out there playing ball. Yeah. 66 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: Coming from Yukon where like as a team, you guys 67 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 5: sort of struggled your senior year. You obviously had a 68 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 5: really great senior season, but how did that mentality kind 69 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 5: of did you kind of have to like adjust coming 70 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 5: into an organization like this that like you're expected to 71 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 5: win every week coming out of its tougher season like that. 72 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, coming from Yukon, we didn't have the best I 73 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: didn't have the years here, but every game we went 74 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: there expecting to win. We just didn't get the outcome 75 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: we wanted. But coming here winning when in about winning 76 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: ten games last year, I was, I was happy. 77 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: Winning feels a lot better. Yeah. 78 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: So so what was something that like kalais imparted on you. 79 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: You know, he's such a great leader last season. What 80 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: were some lessons that he gave you as a rookie? 81 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: H For me, Colley just was big on taking care 82 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: of your body game massages because even though in the field, 83 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: won't be able to make no plays. 84 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: Right right now, we had Michael Pierce on last week, 85 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: so we're just we're just running through the d line 86 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: here on the lounge. 87 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: You guys are just the stars. 88 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: He said that you're the second strongest person that he's 89 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: ever met, Like the second strongest football player? 90 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: Was this? I mean, I. 91 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Assume that you've always been strong your whole life. Is 92 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: that something that you feel like in your game? It's 93 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: just like power more power, and then I'll give you 94 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: a little more power. 95 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: After that. 96 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I based my game off power for me this year, 97 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: I just want to use that part and get start 98 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: getting off and start making more play. Is with it? 99 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: Have you and Michael Pierce Ever? I mean he's a 100 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: strong strong real strong arm wrestling and the Ever. 101 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: No, well we do live together. We push each other 102 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: in the weight room. 103 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: Nice the first did he say who the first was? 104 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 6: He's probably the second strongest person I've seen one man 105 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 6: Linval Joseph Dude is almost tell my pack working out 106 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 6: with Travis is just very. 107 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: Very big kid. 108 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 6: Broad shoulders, then lift the house. 109 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: I know when you were kind of getting into colleges 110 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 5: going through that process originally, you know a lot of 111 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 5: schools wanted you to switch the offensive side of the ball. 112 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: So why was staying on the defensive line so important 113 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 5: to you? 114 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: Actually, I committed to Yukon as an old lineman that 115 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: after I committed, Uh, they switched me when I got there, 116 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: So I'm happy that it worked out for me. 117 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: And why did they make the switch. 118 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: They needed to fill the void for the D line 119 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: and they just put me over there. Wow, athletic, were 120 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: you like. 121 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: A tackle your guard play? 122 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 123 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: So now now you kind of take pleasure and just beating. 124 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: You kind of have that you can think about the 125 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 4: game in both ways. 126 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I say that will help me a lot. It 127 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: helped me a lot this year. Yeah, Like have an 128 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: office of line perspective of it. 129 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you what do you view as you know, 130 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: the defensive line is so multiple here, guys learn different spots. 131 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: What do you what do you view as kind of 132 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: your best spot. 133 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: Like going to D line? Yeah? I like playing, Yeah, 134 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: because having a guy like Mike, he in front of 135 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: me right now just picking up little things tips, he'd 136 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: be giving me a me and rooms. Yeah. Yeah. 137 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: And what is it about playing nose that you really like? 138 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: It's far more comfortable there right in the middle of everything, 139 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: and things happen faster playing those because you're right over 140 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: the over the ball, and I feel like a benefit 141 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: from that. 142 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: It's so interesting, though, because you and Mike have very 143 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: different body styles. Yeah, you know, squattier, big, wider, You're taller, 144 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: still wide, But how do you play the position different 145 00:05:59,400 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: than Mike. 146 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: I feel like there's obviously I played a little bit 147 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: more length than Mike because I'm taller. Yeah, And other 148 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: than that, I feel like you played the game similar, right, Yeah, I. 149 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: Feel like this sophomore class, you kind of alluded it 150 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: to a lot of you guys really contributed last year 151 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 5: and you're stepping into bigger roles like we talked about. 152 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: Do you guys ever like. 153 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 5: As a class maybe coming out of your rookie season, 154 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 5: do you feel that like this sort of class that 155 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 5: you came in with is kind of stepping into these 156 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 5: bigger roles together this year. 157 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do feel like I feel that way. I 158 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: feel like me, Kyle Isaiah likely you're gonna have to 159 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: take some big jumps this year to help the team out. 160 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 5: When you were coming in as a rookie, like when 161 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 5: you're seeing these are the guys that I was drafted with, 162 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 5: did you kind of foresee that? I mean, there's a 163 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 5: lot of big names in your class, you know, guys 164 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: that had really great college careers. Was that something that 165 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: you kind of like foresaw for the group? 166 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: Uh? 167 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I say so because Kyle going I know, watching 168 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: Kyle at Notre Dame, he was a big time ball player, 169 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: and David Ajabo coming out of Michigan about what, had 170 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: a lot of socks. 171 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, So I'm curious about you said that you 172 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: and Mike push each other in the weight room. 173 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a guy who could use a little 174 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: more work in the weight room. How much weight are you? 175 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: Are you too putting up in there? 176 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: Uh? A lot? Man, So I don't even know around 177 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: for bench like four or five for twenty wow? Yeah, squad? 178 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: He got me on squad. Give you that. He got 179 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: my squads. 180 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 3: His thighs are massive. 181 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh so a few Ryan's here. 182 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you said four, you said how much for Okay? 183 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: All right, so you got at least two plus of 184 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: me just so on the bar on the rack. That's 185 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. I mean it has weightlifting. You know, 186 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Mike was like a powerlifter. 187 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 188 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he he was got really in the powerlifting. 189 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, as weightlifting always been a big thing for 190 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: you or. 191 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: I always enjoy weightlifting for some reason, I don't know why. 192 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: That feel like I need to be strong to be 193 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: on the field. 194 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 195 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about your background. What 196 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: was your childhood like growing up? 197 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up in New Haven, Connecticut. Yeah. Yeah, 198 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: I grew up actually playing baseball. I thought I was 199 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: gonna go to the Mlbay for some reason, dan. Uh. 200 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: My freshman year of high school, my mom made me 201 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: play football because I was just sitting in the house 202 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: over the summer doing nothing, and she said, I gotta 203 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: get out of here. So that's when I that's when 204 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: I fell in love with the game. 205 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: Wow. 206 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So, so who were your your baseball idols growing up? 207 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: Like? Did you vision like David Ortiz, big, big, happy? 208 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? That makes sense being up from Connecticut too. That yeah, 209 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: I was saying, Cecil Fielder, that's kind of. 210 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, a big guy too. You a picture I pitched 211 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: a little bit. 212 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: I see I'm picking. 213 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm just imagining power hitter here. I'm just thinking power hitter. 214 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: All right. Well that's interesting. 215 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: So so when you got when you started playing football 216 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: kind of I mean, I assume you were always one 217 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: of the biggest kids growing up. Were you instantly just 218 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: whooping on kids or I say so? 219 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: But my freshman year I did. I only I didn't 220 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: play varus. I only played jvay. Yeah, my sophomore year 221 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: when I was on varsity. 222 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: Right, okay, So what was it about football that really 223 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: made you fall in love with it? 224 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: Uh? I say, just be out there a manhand with 225 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: other people. I guess they will just having fun with it. 226 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: I feel like it's more of a brotherhood in baseball 227 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: and other. 228 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: Sports, in baseball or in football, football and football got you, 229 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: you got you? 230 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 231 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 5: When was the moment that you were kind of like, Okay, 232 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 5: this is something that could actually span into a career 233 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 5: for me. 234 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: I say my junior year when I got invited to 235 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: the Nike opening and I went out there, made it 236 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: for O line. I actually made it to the final. 237 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: I forgot what was called a lead five or something 238 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: like that. Then after that start getting offers and I 239 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: was like, I could probably make it to the league. 240 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: That's awesome. So what made you want to stay at 241 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: Yukon was just coast home. 242 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: Wanted my mom. My mom came up to every home game, 243 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: My grandparents came up to every home game, and that 244 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: was big for me. I went, I burnt teammates home 245 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving. 246 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. 247 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Well, and I think, you know, nowadays you see so 248 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: many college players, you know, going to other schools and whatnot. 249 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: And you know, as we were kind of discussing, even 250 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: though you didn't have the results in the win lost column, 251 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, you stuck it out. 252 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: You know, you stayed it. 253 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, what what made you make that decision? 254 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: I guess I feel like because I started, I wanted 255 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: to finish my career there with Yukon. They've always been 256 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: good at me, and big thing with my family, family 257 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: was there for me. Yeah. 258 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: Well you're not that far from there now. It's just 259 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: kind of nice. Is your family able to get down 260 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 5: to Baltimore easily since it's not too too far? 261 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually I go home my mom my, mom. I 262 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: don't like driving down here for some reasons. You gotta 263 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: start taking the train. Yeah, but I was home about 264 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: two weeks ago. I'm walking home home and got this 265 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: little break coming up too. Yeah. 266 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, back to the football field, I guess, 267 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: just what are your year two aspirations for this season? 268 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? My years just to show improvement from year one, 269 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: keep getting better, start getting off blocks more, making more 270 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: players in the backfield, CFLs, and get a couple of 271 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: more sacks. 272 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's kind of part of your game too. 273 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: You talk about being a nose, which you think it's 274 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: a run stuffer. You know, you take on double teams 275 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: and and all that. But like you were a guy 276 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: who has flashed, certainly good feeting and past rush ability. 277 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I just want to keep approving off those things. 278 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: And now having Chuck Smith here coach Weave that they're 279 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: gonna take my game to the next level. 280 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: So you're working with Chuck too, specialist? 281 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he worked everybody, worked everybody in DLON. It's 282 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: not just the outside guys. 283 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: That's what I thought. Okay, so you're you're gonna be 284 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 3: pulling the spin moods. 285 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm not spending. 286 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: Get that power moves. Yeah yeah, working off of power. 287 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: That's cool. 288 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: How would Anthony Weaver describe you if we asked him? 289 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: Uh, probably say good, kuh quiet, I'm not that quiet 290 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: in the mean rooms, but a good kid happy. That's 291 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: just that's it right there. 292 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: Well, describe Matabk and Brady you know, Brody really kind 293 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: of except for last year and Justin had a career year. 294 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: You know, how do their games kind of compliment yours? 295 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: I say, I feel like Bridy could do all power 296 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: in finouse, saying with Matty b K. Those guys are 297 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: this is like year four for those guys, right edle 298 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: guys took me under the wings when as I came 299 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: in and showed me the ropes right. 300 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: Right, very cool. 301 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, I know big things are coming for you and 302 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: you're two. I can't wait to watch man. It's been 303 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: a pleasure talking to you. Thank you, all right, thank 304 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: you well, thanks to Travis Jones for joining us. Good 305 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: to get to know the big guy a little bit better. Yeah, 306 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean versus second interview, So I know, and I think. 307 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 5: We said this before we hopped on first of many 308 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 5: to come for him. I think he's gonna be a 309 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 5: lot more requests this year. 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Physically present in Maryland. So it'll be interesting 320 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: to see kind of what role exactly that Travis has 321 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: because you know, he's, like you said, he's primarily a 322 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: nose tackle. You know, Michael pierceho we had on last week. 323 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to that, go back and listen 324 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: to that episode. You know, he's the starter. So it's 325 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: kind of as much as kalais left leaves a void, 326 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: it's not really Travis that's so much filling that void. 327 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 5: Sure, well it's interesting too because Michael Pierce did miss 328 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 5: time last year, so Travis Jones was able to get 329 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: a lot more experience as a rookie than we would 330 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 5: have kind of expected going into that season. So you 331 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 5: just really never know how that will all shake out, 332 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 5: you know, when who's available, YadA YadA. But like I'm 333 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 5: like we talked about before with him, you know, he 334 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 5: was able to get that experience in year one, so 335 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 5: that's only going to make him even better in year two. 336 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think Anthony Weaver has a lot of 337 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 5: good pieces in that room, and I think it's really 338 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 5: always really interesting for me to walk by that position 339 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: group of practice. I really like enjoy his coaching style. 340 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: He's so like. 341 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 5: Hands on with them. Obviously, he he has his own 342 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 5: playing career that he can draw from. 343 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: Sure. 344 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 4: I really enjoicing him interact with all those guys. 345 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. 346 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, Michael Pierce could be the first 347 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: second down run stuffing. You know, you get into third down, 348 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: more past Russ situations to does Travis get some more 349 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: of those reps? You know, maybe maybe we're looking at 350 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: more sacks this year. Get the Chuck Smith specials going on. 351 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, he talks about getting to work with doctor Rush 352 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: sure when we talked to him, So we'll be interested 353 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 5: to see how how that all plays out. You know 354 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 5: he talked about well, Chuck talked this week about having 355 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 5: those signature past Rush moves and one of the things 356 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 5: he talked about was power. And then Travis came in 357 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 5: and talked to us about how that's his thing power. 358 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: So maybe that'll work out. 359 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly Well, we have some questions that have come 360 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: into the lounge. This one comes from the LETTI and 361 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: they say, with the signing of La Kwan Treadwell, it 362 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: seems like the only remaining receiver guaranteed roster spot is 363 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman. Okay, I'm gonna first stop there and say 364 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: that I think Obja Za Flowers or Shad Baitman Nelson 365 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: at are locks Lock Locks to make the team at 366 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver. The question here is since Justin Hill Justice 367 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Hill re signed and is a capable returner, could Devin 368 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: Duverne be a trade candidate? Uh, I'll kick this one off. 369 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that Devin DuVernay is 370 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: a had really good OTAs there's I mean no reason 371 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: right now to trade him, Like you don't need the 372 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: cap space right now immediately, you know, I mean that 373 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens stuff a little flexibility. The answer for me 374 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: is a no. I mean a you don't want to 375 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: be shorthanded at wide receiver. That's the last thing that 376 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens want to That's they don't want to be 377 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: in that position again. Uh, and de new Duverne, I 378 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: understand Justice Hills back. Devin DuVernay is a back to 379 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: back Pro Bowl returner who, by the way, is coming 380 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: off his best offensive season last year, like got off 381 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: to a great start. You know, I think that he's 382 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: in a great position now where he can be used 383 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of as this Swiss army knife fourth wide receiver 384 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: most likely, you know, kind of position on this team 385 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: where you know, doing ed rounds and that jet sweeps 386 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like and of course just traditional 387 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver stuff. I mean, he was really good in 388 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: the red zone, made some great contested catches. Like the 389 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: answer for me is a hard no on trading Devin Duvernete. 390 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 5: I agree, like you said, we've seen a lot from 391 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 5: him already in Ota is it's only been a couple 392 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 5: of weeks, and with the team that's so obsessed with 393 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 5: being so dominant on special teams, I don't see why 394 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: you would make a position of strength a. 395 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: Position of needs. 396 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: Exactly. 397 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 5: Every team would love to have Devin Duvernet out there returning, 398 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 5: and so I definitely I'm with you. 399 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: I don't think that's gonna be the case. 400 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, This question comes from Jesse f. The 401 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: question is Marcus Peters game ceiling pick in the playoffs 402 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: game playoff game against the Titans felt like the most 403 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: perfect storybook ending that could have happened in that game, 404 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: with the Titans starting to feel like a new rival 405 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: for the Ravens after the back and forth logo stopping. Okay, 406 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: so you'll remember, hell, you know I remember all that. Yeah, yeah, 407 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: So do you think with players like Marcus piber Peters 408 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: not returning, or maybe not returning and not playing the 409 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Titans in two years, maybe the rivalry is dead. 410 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: I don't think it's dead. 411 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's dead either. 412 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 5: I think it's plenty fresh for plenty of guys on 413 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 5: this team. And yeah, in the past couple of years, 414 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 5: I have felt that there's been a little more juice 415 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 5: for those Titans games. And I hate to say it, 416 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 5: even some of those Steelers' matchups. Now, obviously those are 417 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 5: always special. You know, you're not a true Raven until 418 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 5: you've beating the Steelers and so forth, But those Titans 419 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 5: games have had. 420 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 4: A little extra juice. 421 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got. 422 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 5: Burned a few times and we definitely felt that. Yeah, 423 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 5: their team looks a little different too going into this season, 424 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 5: but I think that there's enough guys still on this 425 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: roster that remember those moments. 426 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that it's as spicy as it 427 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: was back a couple of years ago. I would agree 428 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: with Jesse on that, but I certainly don't think it's gone. 429 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the Titans rivalry a is a very historic 430 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: rivalry in Raven's history. 431 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: You go back back. 432 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean that was a huge rib maybe one of 433 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: the top for sure, I mean contending with the Steelers, 434 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: and then I think it got pretty spicy there in 435 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Yeah, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, and then on 436 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: the logo. 437 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 4: The coaches, it was all the way up. 438 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 439 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: I think there's always been a good relationship. 440 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: There were the questions, but I don't I think that 441 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: the Titans coming out on the Ravens logo in twenty 442 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: nineteen and that whole thing was not received particularly well, 443 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: and that's why Marcus Peters had a little retort. I 444 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: don't think like Peter's potentially not being on the seam. 445 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see, maybe he still does come back. 446 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that changes things. I just think the 447 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: fact that you know, we haven't played them really much 448 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: the past two years ever since beating them, beating them 449 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, that is more why I think it 450 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: hasn't been as spicy as it was before. 451 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 5: Well, and I also think everything is a little less spicy. 452 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 5: If Marcus Peters it's an ex time definitely brings the spice. 453 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 3: That's an excellent point, all right. 454 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: For all of our listeners out there, make sure you're 455 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: subscribed to the Lounge Feed, give us a rating and review. 456 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: We very much appreciate it. 457 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: And if you haven't done so already, make sure you're 458 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: also subscribed to Raven's Press Pass our Other podcasts, which 459 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: features all of our press conferences, all of our interviews, 460 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Make sure you can subscribe and rate 461 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: and review that one as well. Cassie, thank you so 462 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: much for joining me. Yes, it's very much a play. 463 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: You're just a lounge regular now, I did hear that 464 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: shade that you're throwing. 465 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you both take vacation the same week, you 466 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 5: set yourself up for it, but you're coming up. 467 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: For a big vacation here for you soon too. Yeah, 468 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: it's an exciting one. 469 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: Okay, secrets anyway, thank you for joining me, thank you 470 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: for listening, and we'll be back to you next week