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Speaker 1: Hey, Latino USA listeners, Here's a podcast from our archives

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Speaker 1: from Futuro Media and pu X. It's Latino USA. I'm

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Speaker 1: Maria Rosa today. Get ready for a wild ride as

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Speaker 1: we go to the Tucson Rodeo. It's known as La

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Speaker 1: Fiesta de los Barqueros.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: A little while back, three Latino USA producers, Fernando Charvari,

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Speaker 1: Marlon Bishop and Antonia se Lejuido went from New York

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Speaker 1: City to Arizona to visit the rodeo. Well, when they

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Speaker 1: got there, they realized that they weren't exactly dressed for

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Speaker 1: the occasion.

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Speaker 3: We don't know very rodeo ready, do we?

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Speaker 4: I gotta say, you guys don't got boots on, and

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Speaker 4: you're missing, you guys cowboy hats.

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Speaker 5: So it was our first day at the rodeo and

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Speaker 5: finding ourselves hatless, we mosied our way over to a

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Speaker 5: tent selling Western gear. There we met Joey Bennet be

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Speaker 5: this so you got to help us.

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 4: So first we gotta figure out you guys' sizes.

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Speaker 2: What's the right fit on the hat?

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Speaker 4: Right fit on the hats? You want it snug, you

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Speaker 4: don't want it too tight because two tight will give

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Speaker 4: you a headache, but you want it too loose because

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Speaker 4: the window blow it right off and you'll be chasing

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Speaker 4: it down the road.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: We tried out a bunch of hats.

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Speaker 3: It looks I have two giant pringles on each side

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Speaker 3: of my and finally we made our choices, paid for

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Speaker 3: our hats, and then found Joey to let us know

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Speaker 3: what he thought the media.

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Speaker 6: They looked pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you see all right, you got one that fits.

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Speaker 4: That's nice, very nice.

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Speaker 2: So we're ready for the rodeo hair.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, looks like you guys are pretty ready for the rodeo.

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Speaker 1: So you guys picked me up after you had gone

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Speaker 1: shopping for the hats. You guys look kind of adorable,

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Speaker 1: I have to say. So, why did you want to

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Speaker 1: take us to the rodeo?

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Speaker 3: Well, I lived in Tucson since I was a teenager,

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Speaker 3: and when I was in high school, I first learned

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Speaker 3: about the rodeo because I knew that I had two

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Speaker 3: days off randomly in February and it was for rodeo break.

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Speaker 1: Rodeo break.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Tucson has rodeo break. Kids still go to school,

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Speaker 3: A lot of things are kind of shut down. It's

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Speaker 3: like a really big celebration, sort of like the Marti

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Speaker 3: Gras of Tucson. And the name for the Rodeo and

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Speaker 3: Tucson is La Fiestel los Baqueros, which is the celebration

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Speaker 3: of cowboys. And because of that, I wanted to take

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Speaker 3: you guys to see where this old Mexican tradition meets

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Speaker 3: what we picture as the all American cowboy. For the

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Speaker 3: non rodeo experts out there, the Tucson Rodeo is a

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Speaker 3: big competition where some of the best cowboys in the

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Speaker 3: United States face off. The competitions last a week, and

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Speaker 3: a very important part of La Fiestel los Bacos actually

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Speaker 3: happens outside of the Rodeo arena on the Thursday leading

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Speaker 3: up to the big rodeo competitions.

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Speaker 7: It's the rodeo parade.

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Speaker 3: But this is not your ordinary parade. All the floats

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Speaker 3: are pulled by horses and some look like they're straight

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Speaker 3: out of an old Western and.

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Speaker 5: The sidewalks are packed. There's more than one hundred thousand

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Speaker 5: people here watching.

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Speaker 3: The parade rosvocados from Mexico. There's a Mexican flag and

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Speaker 3: then the American flag. This parade has been going on

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Speaker 3: for almost one hundred years and it kicks off Rodeo weekend.

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Speaker 3: Many people only come to watch the Rodeo parade and

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Speaker 3: never actually go inside the Rodeo arena where the competitions happen.

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Speaker 5: As we squeeze through the crowd, we come across an

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Speaker 5: RV decked out with food and speakers and lawn chairs.

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Speaker 2: It looks like a scene out of a tailgate.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 2: My name is Frank Torres.

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Speaker 9: I'm forty five, and I've been coming to Rodeo since

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Speaker 5: Obviously, Frank and his family were here last night to

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Speaker 5: and he slept here.

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Speaker 3: You heard, right, People camp out overnight.

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Speaker 1: You keep our spot, you know, and right here at

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Speaker 1: this spot you've got sole. Frank's whole family is here,

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Speaker 1: his sister, cousin's nieces and nephews.

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Speaker 9: And I can tell you that the turnout of our

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Speaker 9: family has always been about this big, if not sometimes bigger.

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Speaker 9: I think that's importantly because of our culture and who

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Speaker 9: we are as Latinos.

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Speaker 10: As we walk through the parade, we talked to some

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Speaker 3: Some are here to watch the horses.

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Speaker 7: Why do you want to be a cowboy? Taken night horses.

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Speaker 7: Some are here for the fashion.

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Speaker 3: And batana and a cowboys shirt, and some for more

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Speaker 3: existential reasons.

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Speaker 7: What does it mean to be a cowboy?

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Speaker 3: To be a man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: And what does it mean to be a man?

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Speaker 4: Means to be gotta you gotta be like.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, to be a.

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Speaker 7: No worries, no words.

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Speaker 10: Between many horses, shadros and cute little cowboys and cowgirls.

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Speaker 10: We run into Tucson's Mayor Jonathan Rothschild. He says, this

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Speaker 10: is the largest crowd he has seen at the parade.

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Speaker 11: You're known as the long ugus non motorized parade in

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Speaker 11: the world, all by horseback FactCheck mayor.

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Speaker 3: In recent years, that international title went to Sri Lanka,

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Speaker 3: where they have elephants instead of horses in their parade,

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Speaker 3: but the Tucson Rodeo Parade is still the largest non

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Speaker 3: motorized parade in the US.

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Speaker 11: This Western tradition is not just a cowboy tradition. We

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Speaker 11: have so many Vakatas, people of Mexican descent, who have ranchers,

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Speaker 11: who have cattle. The parade route itself isn't a part

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Speaker 11: of the community that is predominantly Hispanic people who have

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Speaker 11: been here for hundreds of years take great pride in

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Speaker 11: their tradition.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing about the rodeo parade. You're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna hear more Mexican music than country music.

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Speaker 3: So but what is this float?

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Speaker 11: This is for a Caline number one and number two

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Speaker 11: ispanding raidio station in Tusa.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people think about the rodeos

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Speaker 3: are very like the most American sport, and I'm honestly, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: The rodeo isn't just American.

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Speaker 12: He's a Mexican, you know.

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Speaker 10: And.

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Speaker 3: They're not wrong. It all started in Mexico in the

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Speaker 3: fifteen hundreds.

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Speaker 1: After the Spanish arrived with their horses and cattle. Ranches

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Speaker 1: were established, and by the seventeen hundreds, cattle ranching had

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Speaker 3: This was also happening all the way south in Argentina.

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Speaker 1: By the mid eighteen hundreds. As the population grew, so

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Speaker 1: did the demand for meat and someone needed to round

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Speaker 1: up large herds of cattle, which is when the bat

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Speaker 1: ghetos roping skills became indispensable. They also started teaching their

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Speaker 3: From then on, the skills that were used to round

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Speaker 3: as androo, the Spanish word for rounding up, became a sport.

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Speaker 1: The first ever rodeo competition is believed to have taken

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Speaker 1: place in Prescott, Arizona, in eighteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: Now, as far as the Tucson Rodeo goes, the first

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Speaker 3: competition was in nineteen twenty five. Back then, the prices

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Speaker 3: worth seven hundred pounds of ice, one hundred pounds of

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Speaker 3: potatoes and a hem. Today the prices are a little different.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys can win tens of thousands of dollars. You know.

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Speaker 8: If you look at our logo deserves a cowboy hat

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Speaker 8: and there's a sombreto on there.

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Speaker 1: That's Rose Cardeton, who is the chairman of the Tucson

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Speaker 1: Rodeo Committee.

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Speaker 8: I'm born and raised here and i consider myself American

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Speaker 8: Mexican descent because I'm very proud to be an American,

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Speaker 8: and I'm also very proud of my roots.

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Speaker 3: According to Chairman Calderon, ultimately the rodeo is about something bigger,

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Speaker 3: something that existed before there was even a Mexico or

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Speaker 8: Rodeo is not about color. It's about an animal, a

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Speaker 8: man trying to compete.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's about.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, enough talking about the rodeo.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the so Walking into the rodeo grounds

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Speaker 1: is kind of like walking into any sports complex, except

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Speaker 1: this has got a serious Southwestern flare. So here the

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Speaker 1: boots are selling cowboy gear like boots and spurs. The

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Speaker 1: food stands are selling beef jerky in tacos. There's one

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Speaker 1: Confederate flag flying that we see, and the first day

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Speaker 1: that we get there, the rodeo programs are sponsored by

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Speaker 1: US Customs and Border Protection. The crowd is mixed Mexican

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Speaker 1: and white mostly, and everyone is done up in sequins,

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Speaker 1: in cowboy boots, in amazing hats and Western shirts.

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Speaker 10: Between the parade and the fun hats, you might forget

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Speaker 10: that the rodeo is a sport, a major sport. Today

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Speaker 10: rodeo athletes can make over five million dollars throughout their careers,

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Speaker 10: and like an esport, there are rules rules that admittedly

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Speaker 13: About what did she do with the lamb?

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Speaker 7: She puts it on inside.

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Speaker 3: What is that a big dog?

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Speaker 7: What goat?

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Speaker 5: To clarify it was a goat, not a dog. And

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Speaker 5: if you have no idea what was going on in

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Speaker 5: that last clip, that's cool. We didn't either it all.

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Speaker 2: She speaks less.

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Speaker 3: I need a rodeo one oh one first.

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Speaker 10: So Maria and I set out to answer all of

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Speaker 10: Fernanda and the rest of our crews questions about what

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Speaker 10: was actually going on.

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Speaker 14: I know nothing about rodeos, well, rodeo for noms right.

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Speaker 1: That's Michael Payne. He's a volunteer at the rodeo who

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Speaker 1: has been coming to La Fiess for twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: He also volunteered to figuratively and literally show us the

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Speaker 1: ropes basic events.

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Speaker 10: Rodeo is kind of like gymnastics in that people compete

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Speaker 10: in distinct events.

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Speaker 7: In rodeo, there are six of them. First, up riding,

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Speaker 2: The horse riding.

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Speaker 14: That's where they put a saddle on a horse. That

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Speaker 14: bucks riding.

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Speaker 3: A horse that legit is like the wildest of horses

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Speaker 7: In my life.

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Speaker 14: Then you have the steer wrestling.

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Speaker 1: That's when a cowboy jumps off of a horse and

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Speaker 1: onto a steer, wrestling.

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Speaker 2: It to the ground.

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Speaker 14: Next to you, vent is to team roping.

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Speaker 10: In team roping, two cowboys ride into the arena and

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Speaker 10: one ropes the head of a steer that's a castrated bull,

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Speaker 10: and then the other cowboys ropes the back leg.

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Speaker 7: Then there's tie down roping.

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Speaker 3: I don't like this one. I'm not even gonna love it.

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Speaker 3: I just don't like this one.

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Speaker 1: A cowboy swoops in and lasso's the steer and ties

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Speaker 2: Tune changed rapidly. I can't watch. This is sanibl crolty

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Speaker 14: Then we go to.

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Speaker 2: The women's barrel rays.

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Speaker 1: Women ride in on a horse and have to run

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Speaker 14: The last one is probably the craziest event of the

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Speaker 7: It's the bull riding.

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Speaker 14: Now, I'm not saying it's for lack of brains, but

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Speaker 7: And that, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 10: Is how Maria Nokosa reacted the first time she saw

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Speaker 3: It really was incredible to see all the participants up close,

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Speaker 5: Speaking of the animals, we have to acknoledge that there's

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Speaker 5: But for this episode we're going to get into all

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Speaker 10: There was something that we all noticed, which was that

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Speaker 3: Looking at the national roster of rodeo professionals, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: But at the junior level you do see a few

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Speaker 6: My Volcamelos Miael ten years old. That guy is a

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Speaker 2: Team roll PERP.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us, Yes, hey, we're back now. When we

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Speaker 1: Charvari and Marlon Bishop drove out to meet Little Michael

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Speaker 3: We're driving on a dirt road on our way to

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Speaker 3: It's a rural area outside of Tucson, where land is

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Speaker 5: When we pull up, we see some cattle and horses

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Speaker 5: Later in the day they'll be competing at the Tucson Rodeo.

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Speaker 15: We've never lived where there wasn't horses, and this is like,

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Speaker 15: this is this is what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is all he knows. He can barely ride

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Speaker 15: Because we just ride and rope and that's just pretty

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Speaker 15: much all we do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but how many eight year olds can say that

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Speaker 3: Little Michael is only eight years old, but is dressed

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Speaker 3: like a grown up cowboy with a paisty maroon and

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Speaker 2: Every day.

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Speaker 5: Little Michael and his older sister Angelina come home from

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Speaker 5: They practice on the weekends too, that's when mom and

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Speaker 3: Unlike most kids, little Michael and Angelina don't spend their

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Speaker 5: Angelina is fifteen and also ropes. She was actually going

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Speaker 5: to compete in the Tucson Rodeo, but she injured her

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Speaker 3: She towers over Little Michael. Her jeens are decorated with

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Speaker 3: studs and jewels, but the flashiest thing about her is

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Speaker 13: She's roped since she was probably like four or five

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Speaker 13: when she started roping. They both have rode as soon

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Speaker 3: Like most siblings, Angelina and Little Michael bicker and there's

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Speaker 5: In about two hours, Little Michael is going to compete

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Speaker 5: in team roping and something called calf touching.

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Speaker 3: How do you do that? One You owe the calf

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Speaker 3: and then you get off your horse, then you touch it.

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Speaker 3: Time stops, then time stops.

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Speaker 15: Time stops when whoever's the fastest wins.

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Speaker 13: They're little, they only make them touch it instead of

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Speaker 13: doing like the whole calf roping like the older guys

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Speaker 3: They're like your size basically, so you can't really do

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Speaker 5: No, Before we hit the road, Michael shows us.

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Speaker 15: Around this property my dad bought in ninety four and

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Speaker 3: They have a handful of adorable cordis a few small

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Speaker 3: But the camelots don't necessarily ranch, they rope, meaning they're

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Speaker 15: We all have the same common interest, so and part

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Speaker 15: of it's the winning the competition and that drives you.

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Speaker 15: But a lot of us just roping, and then we

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Speaker 15: all rope together at some point. So it's nice to

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Speaker 13: Come out here and rope with them when I get

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Speaker 13: a chance, and it's just the way of our life.

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Speaker 13: That's how me and Michael met, And just.

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Speaker 3: Like any good love story, Michael and Rachel's began at

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Speaker 3: a roping event.

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Speaker 13: We were at a roping and my dad always made

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Speaker 13: sure that I had the best partners, and Michael and

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Speaker 13: his nephew Anthony roped really well, so he made sure that,

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Speaker 2: Them and they were literally a team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rachel's dad, mister Mendoza, asked Michael to take one

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Speaker 3: Rachel was going over to Michael's all the time, and

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Speaker 13: Bit more intimate, you know, where we got to know

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Speaker 5: Like that was the Catholic an excuse for you guys

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Speaker 2: Little bit define.

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Speaker 13: I definitely have to say I probably put on a

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Speaker 3: Michael has short black hair, wears thin framed glasses, and

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Speaker 5: He owns a tree cutting and landscaping business, and not

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Speaker 5: long ago he stopped working weekends so we could train

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Speaker 5: two part time jobs. She works at a stockyard and

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Speaker 3: Riding horses and the whole rodeo lifestyle. It's in their blood.

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Speaker 15: My grandpa was from Mexico and he walked across in

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Speaker 3: Since then, Michael's family has had ranches and worked on ranches,

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Speaker 3: the thing about most cowboys of Mexican descent. You can

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Speaker 5: Back when Rachel and Michael were younger, they didn't have

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Speaker 15: We don't have a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: We don't come for money, so they have.

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Speaker 13: More than we had, you know, so it's nice to

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Speaker 15: I tell him, you know, until you're older, you're gonna

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Speaker 15: have nice horses and a place to rope and ride

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Speaker 2: And he understands that.

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Speaker 5: Michael can't afford to spend twenty thousand dollars on a

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Speaker 3: For today's competition, little Michael will ride Blue, one of

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. We were feeling really cool that,

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Speaker 5: I know, literally, even though I'm wearing this cowboy hat,

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Speaker 5: I know I'm they literally I have it on backgrad Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 5: I know literally nothing about rodeo.

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Speaker 2: There we go, There we go.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm going to boyle obtainted. Honey, I'm going to ride,

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Speaker 12: ride right away, way out of West where life is

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Speaker 12: best and the sun shines.

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Speaker 2: Right all day.

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Speaker 3: When we get to the rodeo, little Michael, who was

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Speaker 5: He's focused and needs to warm up before he competes,

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Speaker 5: on the bleachers. All right, So what do you think

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Speaker 5: little Michael. Chances are his sill.

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Speaker 13: In the camp rope, and they're pretty good.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's some kids here that rope decent, you know.

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Speaker 13: So we'll just have to see how he does today

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Speaker 13: and the team rope, and I'm pretty confident that he'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his uh and who does he team rope

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 3: From very early on, Little Michael started showing a lot

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Speaker 3: He wins a lot. In one weekend, he won about

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Speaker 13: The biggest thing with him is the saddles that he's won.

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Speaker 13: He's won them roping against adults.

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Speaker 5: Rachel's talking about how in some competitions the trophy is

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Speaker 5: a saddle for a horse. Little Michael's actually riding on

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Speaker 13: Like Summer Worth maybe eight hundred, Summer Worth maybe twelve hundred.

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Speaker 2: The arena is pretty packed.

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Speaker 5: Like most competition days, the Tucson Rodeo is starting with

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Speaker 5: Michael's first event.

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Speaker 3: Rachel has her cell phone ready to shoot a video

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Speaker 3: of Little Michael doing calf touching. That's the one where

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Speaker 3: he's on a horse, ropes a calf, then jumps off

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Speaker 6: Michael camelot us, Michael, come on, jump off for got

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Speaker 2: Go go go go?

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Speaker 6: Whoa trigger? There you go touching jump eight years old.

451
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 6: That guy is a future world champion team roper. Someday

452
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Speaker 6: you're gonna say I saw him rope with the Tucson Rodeo.

453
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Speaker 3: Little Michael did well, not great, but it's okay. He

454
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 3: still got the main event coming up, Team Roping, and

455
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Speaker 3: Michael and Little Michael are one of the favorite teams

456
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Speaker 3: for that event.

457
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Speaker 5: People at the rodeo know their names. The announcer's comment

458
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Speaker 5: about Little Michael being the next world champion, he didn't

459
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Speaker 5: say that about any of the other kids competing.

460
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Speaker 3: There's a lot at stake right now. If they don't

461
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Speaker 3: do well, they won't be able to move on and

462
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Speaker 3: compete in the finals. This is their hometown rodeo, so

463
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Speaker 3: the pressure is on. Little Michael is on his horse,

464
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Speaker 3: rope in hand with his gaze locked ahead. Big Michael

465
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Speaker 3: is also on his horse, ready to go, looking over

466
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Speaker 3: at Little Michael.

467
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Speaker 5: The cage opens, a calf runs out. Both Michael speed

468
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Speaker 5: up to it on their horses. Big Michael ropes the

469
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Speaker 5: calf by the horns. Little Michael tries to last of

470
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Speaker 5: the calf's foot and.

471
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Speaker 2: Missus, I put all that.

472
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Speaker 12: Pressure on it.

473
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Speaker 6: Why did the gentleman our future world champion? And how

474
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Speaker 6: out of it around in the fall for Christopher Michael.

475
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Speaker 3: This is not how it normally goes down.

476
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Speaker 2: He just didn't do no good. And I mean it

477
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: happens sometimes.

478
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Speaker 3: You miss, So, missy, Missy up said a little.

479
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: A little bit, not much.

480
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Speaker 15: He likes when he wins, so but he was a

481
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 15: little bit like, but he's good now. I mean we

482
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Speaker 15: talked about it.

483
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: Would you tell him just that?

484
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Speaker 15: And it happens and we all miss at some point,

485
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Speaker 15: we all we all miss. He just wasn't aggressive enough,

486
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Speaker 15: like he was kind of like real, maybe too relaxed

487
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Speaker 15: a little bit, and then it just it just didn't work.

488
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Speaker 2: And sometimes that happens.

489
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Speaker 5: So all of those hours of practicing, all of that

490
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Speaker 5: hard work, it's all for just about twenty seconds in

491
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Speaker 5: the arena.

492
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Speaker 3: And although little Michael didn't make it to the finals.

493
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Speaker 3: At the Tucson Rodeo, Rachel tells us there's a junior

494
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Speaker 3: rodeo tomorrow about three hours north.

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Speaker 13: No, I feel like you guys have to come to

496
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Speaker 13: the Rodeo this weekend. We got to redeem ourselves.

497
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Speaker 3: There, Little Michael will compete again and maybe this time

498
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Speaker 3: the outcome will be different.

499
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Speaker 1: Now, while we were at the Tucson Rodeo, we heard

500
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Speaker 1: about another side of rodeo life, a smaller, more local,

501
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: less expensive, and often more Mexican kind of event, which

502
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Speaker 1: is called the jackpot. A jackpot is essentially a pick

503
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Speaker 1: up version of rodeo. The same way that you might

504
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: show up to shoot hoops at a basketball pickup game,

505
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: you can show up on your horse to rope some

506
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Speaker 1: steers at a jackpot. So the next morning, while Fernanda

507
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: and Marlon went out to the Junior Rodeo, Antonia and

508
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Speaker 1: I set out to find a jackpot and we ended

509
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Speaker 1: up in Cassa Grand, a small town between Tucson and Phoenix.

510
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Speaker 10: The arena where the jackpot was held is on the

511
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 10: private ranch of a guy named Rube Wilzie. Unlike the

512
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 10: Tucson Rodeo, which is this huge event where food and

513
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 10: clothing is sold, we even had to get a press

514
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 10: clearance to go in. When we get to the Jackpot,

515
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 10: it feels like we're just visiting our old friend Rube's place.

516
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: We seriously drove up in our car like almost ran

517
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: into his house. It was so relaxed, like you didn't

518
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: have to have a ticket or anything like that.

519
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 10: And so the big event was team roping. The soundtrack

520
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 10: to the jackpot was this woman announcer. It was just

521
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 10: this like hypnotic list of names and scores that just

522
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 10: went out throughout the whole day.

523
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 7: Came number fifty eight to take the Father in Europe.

524
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Speaker 16: You'll be followed by Mike long way.

525
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Speaker 1: And then you know, as we walked around, you know,

526
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: we would hear groups of men, but they were kind

527
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: of separate and they were speaking in Spanish.

528
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Speaker 10: And that's where we met Arturo Romano, who would be

529
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Speaker 10: competing all throughout the day. Immediately he started talking smack and.

530
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Speaker 8: We so.

531
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Speaker 1: Arturo says that a lot of guys put pictures on

532
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: Facebook and wearing cowboy hats and boots, but that in reality,

533
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: many of those guys can't even ride a horse.

534
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 10: I quickly realized that Artudo had a lot in common

535
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 10: with Big Michael. They both work in landscaping, they both

536
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 10: named their sons after themselves, and they both have a huge.

537
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 7: Love for roping.

538
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 10: But unlike Big Michael, whose third generation Mexican American. Artudo

539
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 10: is an immigrant from Sonda, Mexico. And while roping is

540
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 10: a lifestyle for the Camelots, for Artudo, it's just a hobby, yeah,

541
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 10: and temple.

542
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: And that is the main difference between the Tucson Rodeo

543
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: and a jackpot. Here, anyone can show up and rope,

544
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: but like the Tucson Rodeo, competitors also stand to win

545
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: money because at a jackpot, all of the participants have

546
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: to pay to compete. So at this particular jackpot there

547
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: were nearly four hundred teams and each of them paid

548
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars.

549
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 10: And so Ardudro is here both to have a good

550
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 10: time and also because he wants to win money.

551
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 16: Sometimes I go back with thousands of dollars six thousand,

552
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 16: I want six thousand, five hundred.

553
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: One time, it's.

554
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 7: Time for Ardudro's first go of the day.

555
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 10: So Maria and I set up in the bleachers with

556
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 10: a pulled pork sandwich, the only item of food available

557
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 10: to purchase at the jackpot, and wait to see how

558
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 10: he does.

559
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: Arturo is about to come out is so good. His

560
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: partner doesn't get the back heel and.

561
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 10: Like a professional athlete Artuda rides over to us for

562
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 10: a postgame interview.

563
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: Are you angry at the guy who kind of no.

564
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: Because I missed two?

565
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 13: Yeah?

566
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 7: I look like you got it? Yeah yeah, but I

567
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 7: have missed in the past.

568
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: So you don't get angry at the guy you're not.

569
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: Like steam roping is too.

570
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: I mean I'm angry.

571
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: At him because I'm like, why do you let you down?

572
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: What about when you miss what you know? Because there'll

573
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: be time where you miss.

574
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 12: I have miss and then what want guide to be

575
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 12: angry at you?

576
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: No?

577
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 13: No, I'm learning.

578
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: I'm learning the zen.

579
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 10: In general, the way Duda talked about issues reminded me

580
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 10: of a John Wayne movie. The characters John Wayne played

581
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 10: had strong opinions and an unapologetic attitude about them.

582
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: Never apologize, mister, it's a sign of weakness.

583
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 7: This is da. On anti Trump protests.

584
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: He says protests are for lazy people. He doesn't have

585
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: time for them. He has to work and take care

586
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: of his family.

587
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Speaker 10: John Wayne's characters also believe that you only deal with

588
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 10: people you respect.

589
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 13: I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do

590
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 13: these things to other people.

591
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 10: I require the same from them.

592
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Here's ardudro on how to respond to prejudice.

593
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 10: He says, you have the choice to ignore those who

594
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 10: disrespect you, and that's what you should do.

595
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: And that's kind of Artuto's life philosophy that out there

596
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: in the world there are good people and bad people

597
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: and politics and all of that, but what you really

598
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: got to do is just focus on yourself.

599
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 7: All right, here is again, Hey.

600
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 14: You got him?

601
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 7: You got him? Who seven lak and dale. It's a

602
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 7: good score. Good score, let's put way in.

603
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: How do you feel pretty good?

604
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: Thank you?

605
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 14: Good?

606
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 16: Yeah, that was right.

607
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 10: Artuda was doing pretty well throughout the day, but he

608
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 10: was especially excited for his last round because he would

609
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 10: be roping with fellow Tucson resident and Sonora native sees Choa.

610
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: Remember how Tudo talked about winning those six thousand dollars once, Well,

611
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: he won all of that money with, says, has.

612
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 7: Won several championship buckles.

613
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he says that sometimes the people running the

614
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: team roping events don't really like it when he wins

615
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: because that out of the eight hundred teams taking part,

616
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: most of whom are Anglos, that then a Mexican team wins.

617
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 15: Cesar says, I know they want to see trauma.

618
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: But Cesar says, whether they like it or not, they

619
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Speaker 1: can't keep him out.

620
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 7: Team number sixty one, Art Romano Caesaro cho, you're wrapped.

621
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 7: Ropes Ahead says that aims for the heel. Is that

622
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 7: number sixty.

623
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Speaker 1: Two, You're out, You're walking afore.

624
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 16: If I get home, my horses okay, I'm okay, my

625
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 16: fingers are still there. Nobody got hurt. It's a winning

626
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 16: situation already already won.

627
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 10: Ardudo may talk in life lessons like he's out of

628
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 10: a Western, but he isn't over really romantic about roping

629
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 10: in rodeo life. He knows there's no sweeping end to

630
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 10: the jackpot where he rides off into the sunset. All

631
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 10: this is very nice and beautiful, but when the weekend

632
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 10: is over, he goes home back to his day job

633
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 10: running a landscaping business. At this point, it's after seven pm.

634
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 10: The sky has turned violet and is creeping into black Antonia.

635
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: And I had literally spent over eight hours watching Team Ropers.

636
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: We literally saw steers get tied up hundreds of times.

637
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: So we pack up and leave.

638
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 10: While driving away, I got a text from Artuda. He

639
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 10: wanted to let us know that Sisad and another Sonoran

640
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 10: friend one first place. Arturo sends us a picture of

641
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 10: them with big grints as they flash over one thousand dollars.

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00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: Coming up on Latino USA. We link back up with

643
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Speaker 1: the Camelot family to find out we'll eight year old

644
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: rodeo prodigy little Michael deem himself. After all, stay with us, Hey,

645
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: we're back. When we left off, Antonia and I were

646
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: at a small roping event called the Jackpot. Meanwhile, Marlon

647
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: and Fernanda were on their own road trip to a

648
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: suburb of Phoenix and they were a little lost.

649
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: Oh wait, double t ranch and arena. We just have

650
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: to go, like back to where I said I see horses. Okay,

651
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: you know when you see horses, just follow them. We

652
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: were on our way to meet back up with the Camelots.

653
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: The rodeo says Mexican American family we met earlier. That

654
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Speaker 3: includes the eight year old rodeo star in training, Little Michael.

655
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 5: Last time we were with the Camelots, Little Michael was

656
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: competing in the Tucson Rodeo and he didn't do very well.

657
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 5: His mom, Rachel, told us that she wanted us to

658
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 5: see little Michael redeem himself and asked us to come

659
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Speaker 5: watch him compete the next day.

660
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Speaker 3: So we took her up on the offer and drove

661
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: about two and a half hours north of Tucson to

662
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Speaker 3: a suburb of Phoenix where the family was participating in

663
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Speaker 3: a junior rodeo, which is kind of like a rodeo,

664
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Speaker 3: but cuter because it's just kids.

665
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Speaker 5: The cowboys and cowgirls may be little, ranging from ages

666
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: seven to eighteen, but make no mistake, the competition level

667
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: is serious. Junior Rodeos like these are where the next

668
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: generation of professional rodeo stars cut their teeth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're here. Once we get there, we quickly run

670
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Speaker 3: into the camelots, starting with Rachel the mom.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, how you did time?

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Speaker 6: Did you?

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Speaker 14: Guys?

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Speaker 3: Get in and get up?

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00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 13: We had to get up at four and leave the

676
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 13: house at five, and we got here about seven thirty.

677
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 13: And then little Michael tied his goat this morning about

678
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 13: about eighty nine o'clock.

679
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: How did that go?

680
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 13: Good? He won fourth?

681
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 5: Fourth could be worse, but not the redemption Rachel wanted

682
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 5: us to see. All day long, little Michael will compete

683
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 5: in different events against other kids in his age group.

684
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: The next event is called breakaway roping.

685
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 7: Next is gonna be Michael Kamelot.

686
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 3: After Michael's chat out him Kaden Hooper and Trayven Schuman,

687
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: Little Michael rides up to the starting box looking focused.

688
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: The gate opens and a calf takes up, running into

689
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: the arena. Little Michael bounce into the arena with his horse,

690
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: chasing after the calf. He tosses his lasso, trying to

691
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: get it around the calf's neck and he misses.

692
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 7: Darn it, that's going to be a no time today

693
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 7: for Michael.

694
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: No time meaning he won't place it all.

695
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: Shortly after, he gets another chance for redemption during the

696
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: full family event called Ribbon Rope, and.

697
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 13: The ribbon roping is it actually gets the parents involved too.

698
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 5: The way it works is that the kid is on

699
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 5: a horse and ropes a calf. Dad runs and basically

700
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 5: tackles the calf, and Mom grabs a ribbon off its

701
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 5: tail and runs back to the starting bucks.

702
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: But Little Michael.

703
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 5: Fails to lasso the calf again, and it's another no

704
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 5: time and Little Michael is not handling this well at all.

705
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 5: He's pouting and refuses to say a word to us

706
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 5: or even look at us. Really whether it's because he's

707
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 5: embarrassed or maybe he thinks we're bad luck. How is

708
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 5: little Michael feeling today?

709
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 13: I know he's having a little bit of a rough day,

710
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 13: but he still could turn the day around.

711
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 5: There's something healthy about losing every now and again, also,

712
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 5: right right.

713
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it kind of kipples you so that way,

714
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 13: you know, you don't act like that all upset and

715
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 13: every time that you lose, because that's no not those

716
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 13: sportsmanship in that.

717
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: Also competing is Angelina, little Michael's older sister. She's having

718
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: a better day. She's placed in a few events, even

719
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: while wearing a cast for a leg injury. So I

720
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: ask her if she also gets mad when she I

721
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: get mad, but it's just because I know that I

722
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 3: could do better. I don't get as upset as.

723
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 7: Michael, though.

724
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 13: Yeah, but he's so young. He's got a lot of

725
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 13: learning to do still.

726
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: You know.

727
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: Rachel says that she and Big Michael don't get upset

728
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 5: at the kids or punish them for doing poorly. Oh

729
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 5: though they might get a stern talk if they make

730
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 5: a really obvious mistake.

731
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: And there's a reason that rodeo is really.

732
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 5: High stakes for the camelots and that's because it's really

733
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: really expensive. The entrance fees for both kids for today's

734
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 5: junior rodeo, we're almost five hundred dollars. If they do

735
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 5: really well, they can make that back in prize money,

736
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: but if they don't, it's money down the drain.

737
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: In general, the expensive rodeo life is a challenge for

738
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: the family. Every opportunity to get to the next level

739
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: in the rodeo world comes with costs horses, feed, equipment,

740
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: gas to get to far away places, and then a.

741
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 15: Lot of times we're just you know, if we just

742
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 15: even like we're we feel like we're winning, like if

743
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 15: you know, and then there's times where you do make

744
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 15: a little money, but then there's times when you lose money.

745
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: The family says overall about three quarters of their income

746
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: goes to rodeo related expenses, and they've had to go

747
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: into debt to make some big purchases like vehicles.

748
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 15: Then it's great, like we don't have if you look around,

749
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 15: we don't have the nicest trailer. You know, if you

750
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 15: look at all the trailers around here.

751
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 5: He's talking about horse trailers. The one the camelots have

752
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 5: is basically this thing you attach to your truck that

753
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 5: has room for about four horses and not much else.

754
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 5: But all throughout the parking lot there are these fancy

755
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: living horse trailers, basically luxury RVs with a built in

756
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 5: space in the back to haul several horses. If they

757
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 5: had one, Michael says, they'd be able to stay the

758
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 5: night here at the Junior Rodeo and already be here

759
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: for day two tomorrow.

760
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 15: But instead we'll drive back to Tucson the night and then,

761
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 15: which is about two and a half three hours from here,

762
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 15: and then drive back in the morning.

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00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: Again.

764
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: Money was a limitation when Big Michael was a young,

765
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: aspiring rodeo cowboy himself. Ever since he was a kid,

766
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 3: it was his dream to be a professional, but he

767
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: found that the people who really make it to the

768
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 3: pro level often came from money.

769
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 15: One of the things I always wanted to do was

770
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 15: just go one year hard. I wanted to go to

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00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 15: all the rodeos like the other guys, and just to

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00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 15: see where I would end up, or how good I

773
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 15: would do or and I've never I never did do that.

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00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: Michael couldn't.

775
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 5: He had a job, house payments to make, he had

776
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 5: kids young and a family to take care of.

777
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 15: If you don't have that money to invest, you know,

778
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 15: seventy sixty seventy thousand in a year, then you don't

779
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 15: get to go.

780
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: And Michael wonders sometimes if there's been another barrier in

781
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: his rodeo career.

782
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 15: I do feel a little bit like the handicap system

783
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 15: is prejudiced to us.

784
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 5: The handicap system in team roping is complicated, and we're

785
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 5: not going to go into too much detail, but basically,

786
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: cowboys are given this number rating based on how well

787
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: they perform, and that number can affect their careers a lot.

788
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: In theory, the process of giving out these ratings should

789
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 5: be objective, but Michael suspects that the numbers sometimes get

790
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: improperly raised or lowered.

791
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 15: I was talking to some Native people, some Indians, and

792
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 15: they're like, man, our skin's are wrong color for them

793
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 15: to give us a good number. When he said that,

794
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 15: it kind of I was like, yeah, you're probably right.

795
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: In other words, he thinks they may not get a

796
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: good number because they're not white, and Michael is visibly

797
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: uncomfortable talking about this stuff. He identifies as Mexican, but

798
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: says he gets along with people from all sorts of backgrounds.

799
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 5: We talked about this stuff a little bit at the

800
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 5: Junior Rodeo Cafeteria with a guy named Bill Padilla.

801
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 16: Billy Padilla from Patagonia, Arizona.

802
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: How old are you, I'm sixty four.

803
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 5: Bill is here to watch his grandson, Damien, who is

804
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 5: one of Little Michael's rodeo buddies. He's a third generation

805
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 5: Mexican American and owns a three hundred head cattle ranch

806
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 5: close to the border.

807
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: He says he's actually one of the few Mexicans who

808
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: owned their own ranches.

809
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 16: Well, what I've noticed growing up is that the Mexican

810
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 16: cowboy came over to the American side, and a lot

811
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 16: of the American ranch owners picked up a lot of

812
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 16: the habits and traditions of the Mexican cowboy.

813
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: Bill says, despite that history, Mexicans rarely make it to

814
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: the big leagues today.

815
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 16: It's changed towards becoming more and more of an elite

816
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 16: sport because out in the jackpot world where we team

817
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 16: rope and stuff, you see a lot of very good

818
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 16: Mexican ropers, but they don't have the money to go

819
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 16: to the next level.

820
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: Bill Padia, by the way, is a big Trump supporter.

821
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 16: I'm a very diehard Trumper.

822
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 5: He says he doesn't agree with Trump on the wall,

823
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 5: but likes him on pretty much everything else, especially his

824
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 5: anti abortion stance.

825
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 3: And he has this pick yourself up by the bootstrap's

826
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: mentality that you often hear from Republicans. He doesn't think

827
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: Mexican American cowboys like his son and grandson should sit

828
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: around feeling sorry for themselves for not winning rodeos.

829
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 16: I've always taught him, yes, we're from Mexican desen but

830
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 16: we're Americans. And I said, don't make your descendancy such

831
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 16: a big deal. When we started rodeo and he started

832
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 16: junior rodeo, we were very few Mexicans in the white community,

833
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 16: and I said, I don't want you to gravitate just

834
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 16: to the Mexicans or to the white I said, I

835
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 16: want you to be yourself. I want you to be

836
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 16: a person first. I don't like the division that's created,

837
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 16: but each different, you know, Blacks separating themselves, Mexicans separating themselves.

838
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 16: I think we're all Americans and we should act like it.

839
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: From what we could tell, the Camelots think the same way.

840
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 5: They can't control what other people will say or think

841
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 5: about them, But what they can do is to try

842
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 5: to give little Michael every leg up they possibly can

843
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 5: in the rodeo world.

844
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 15: My dreams for him is to give him the opportunity

845
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 15: that I never had, so he will have the opportunity

846
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 15: to do it early in life from you know. I

847
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 15: bet when he's eighteen and he can buy his pro card,

848
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 15: he'll buy it, and he probably won't go to college.

849
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 15: I imagine he's gonna want a rodeo and I hopefully

850
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 15: I'll be healthy and able to give him a chance

851
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 15: to go in rodeo.

852
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 13: And well, there's one thing that's really I think that's

853
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 13: gonna help a lot with Little Michael, you know, because

854
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 13: me and Michael Big Michael both have the same dreams,

855
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 13: like I would love to be, you know, watch him

856
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 13: go all the way, but he has so many people

857
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 13: that support him.

858
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: At this point in the conversation, Rachel starts tearing up.

859
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: Are these tears up? Happy? Oh?

860
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, it gets a little emotional, you know, talking about

861
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 13: the where you want to see your kids go. And Angelina,

862
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 13: she's so smart, She's gonna end up being the doctor

863
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 13: and the family and eventually supporting all of us. Yeah,

864
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 13: if I hear it, World champion team roper Michael Camillot.

865
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 13: It'll be even know what the words would be. I

866
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 13: would be so happy and excited.

867
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 3: It's late afternoon now and Little Michael has one event

868
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: left after a couple of days of poor performances. He

869
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: really wants a win. The whole family wants to win.

870
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: We could literally feel how badly they wanted it.

871
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: It's team roping.

872
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: It's the Marquee Rodeo event in a lot of ways,

873
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 5: where Little Michael and Big Michael will work together to

874
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 5: rope a calf, one by the horns, the other by

875
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 5: the feet.

876
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: It's also the.

877
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 5: Event that Little Michael lost yesterday at the Tucson Rodeo.

878
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 5: Next Michael Camel wearing his little cowboy hat and Western shirt.

879
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 5: Little Michael and his dad take their places. The gate

880
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 5: is lifted half darts out in front of them, and

881
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 5: they sprint out behind it on their horses.

882
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 13: Can I spriend your time?

883
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: As a seven seven point for nine, Little Michael and

884
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: Dad Michael did team roping and they killed it.

885
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 5: They got a seven four nine, I think he said,

886
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 5: which was sounds really fast.

887
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: Also, just the way in which the little Michael got

888
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: that the back of the calf's lights.

889
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: I was far away. Describe it for me.

890
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was amazing. It felt like okay,

891
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: so Dad Michael went first, he got the head, and

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Speaker 3: then I was like, oh, so much pressure on little Michael.

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Speaker 3: Is he gonna do it? Is he gonna do it?

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Speaker 3: And then he went and then just as the as

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Speaker 3: a calf was like kicking its back legs, he gets

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Speaker 3: the ankles and then pulls it and then stops the

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Speaker 3: horse and then yanks it like do you see this?

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Speaker 5: The announcer reads off the results and little Michael Camelot

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Speaker 5: wins first place. Everybody is in much better spirits now.

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Speaker 5: Little Michael is even willing to say a few words

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Speaker 5: to us.

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Speaker 3: So what did the announcers just say.

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Speaker 2: Too me?

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Speaker 3: And how does that feel? It's cool?

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Speaker 13: Fun.

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Speaker 3: Mom especially was pleased.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so little Michael redeemed himself a little bit there

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Speaker 13: at the end. So hopefully that'll roll over and tomorrow

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Speaker 13: and we'll have a really good day.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things we took away from our

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Speaker 3: time with the Camelots. One is how much the rodeo

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Speaker 3: binds them together as a family, and how sweet it

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Speaker 3: is that they all live and breathe the sport together.

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Speaker 3: Another is how it connects them to their family history,

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Speaker 3: to the Vaccios who use their roping and writing skills

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Speaker 3: to survive and earn a living.

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Speaker 5: Then there's the transformational power of rodeo, its ability to

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Speaker 5: take an ordinary family with ordinary struggles and turn them

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Speaker 5: into lasso swinging, horseback riding, cow roping badasses, and how

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Speaker 5: rodeo in the end is a source of dignity, a

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Speaker 5: way of safe, end up tall and being calm and

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Speaker 5: focused no matter what situation you face.

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Speaker 1: While we were in Arizona, we talked to a lot

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Speaker 1: of people about cowboying and rodeo and what it all means.

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Speaker 1: And the person who put it best was Jose Calderon

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Speaker 1: the chair of the Tucson Rodeo Committee and one of

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Speaker 1: the few Mexican Americans to ever hold that position.

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Speaker 8: The phrase that we use at rodeo is cowboy up,

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Speaker 8: and cowboy up means no matter how tough it is

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Speaker 8: and you know it's going to be a rough ride

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Speaker 8: or whatever it is, you cowboy up. And I think

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Speaker 8: you need to use everybody needs to use that term

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Speaker 8: in their everyday life. If you're having struggles with your word,

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Speaker 8: your family, your health, You know what you got to do.

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Speaker 8: You got a cowboy up, you just do it.

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Speaker 3: Back at the Junior Rodeo, while the other families settle

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Speaker 3: in their fancy sleeping trailers for the night, the Camelots

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Speaker 3: pack up to drive back to Tucson and get a

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Speaker 3: few hours of sleep before coming back for day two

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Speaker 3: of Junior Rodeo tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: They load up the trailer with their horses, get in

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Speaker 1: the truck, and as cliche as it sounds, they drive

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Speaker 1: off into one of those magnificent purple pink, big sky

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Speaker 1: desert sunsets. Not a lone cowboy on his horse, but

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Speaker 1: a whole family driving off together. This episode was produced

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Speaker 1: by Fernando Charvari, Marlon Bishop and Antonia Seehuido. It was

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Speaker 1: Latino USA team includes Andrea loo Pez Crusado, Marta Martinez,

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Speaker 1: Junior Alejandra Serasad Patrisa Sulvard and Julia Rocha, with help

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Speaker 1: from Raoul Prees.

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Speaker 2: Our editorial director is Julio Ricardobarella. Our director of.

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Speaker 1: Our associate engineers are Gabriel A. Bias and JJ Carubin.

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Speaker 1: Monica Morales and Andrew Figianiz. Our theme music was composed

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Speaker 1: by San Rouinos. I'm your host and executive producer Mariaojosa.

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