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Speaker 1: We beat Clemson, Syracuse can pay for it. And in
Speaker 1: you know news that sucks, and you just feel like
Speaker 1: this team is snake bitten. Nicky Bosa tears his ACL
Speaker 1: and the nine the Niners seem demands ay to either
Speaker 1: be the healthiest, deepest team in the league going into
Speaker 1: a deep playoff run, or just ravaged by injury before
Speaker 1: we even get toked Ober with no in between. Just
Speaker 1: every year it feels like that. I and so that's
Speaker 1: a tough one for Nick Bosa. I don't know if
Speaker 1: any team could feel worse about a three and oh
Speaker 1: start than these Niners given all those injuries. Also, before
Speaker 1: we get to the news of last night, which was
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Raven losing to the Detroit Lions in what
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Speaker 1: your Baltimore Ravens and take us through before we get
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: So last night, my Baltimore Ravens, we coughed up another one.
Speaker 2: Lamar was running for his life, Derek Henry with another
Speaker 2: costly fumble. Detroit came back on the next drive, converted
Speaker 2: on fourth, got a touchdown. So we did it for
Speaker 2: your team, we should do it for my team too.
Speaker 2: Should I be worried about my Ravens with how everything's
Speaker 2: going at the moment.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you listen. I'm glad you put it
Speaker 1: in that context. We did it for the Chiefs for
Speaker 1: being zero in two and now one and two. Should
Speaker 1: we do it for Baltimore? And it is a very
Speaker 1: interesting test of sports media today and who has and
Speaker 1: has not earned benefits of the doubt because eye, silly me,
Speaker 1: Chiefs Homer, lifelong Kansas Citian, got a tattoo about the team.
Speaker 1: Silly me. I would have thought that a team that
Speaker 1: has been to seven consecutive conference championship games, been to
Speaker 1: five of the last six Super Bowls, won three of
Speaker 1: the last six Super Bowls, and been to three straight
Speaker 1: that if any team would have earned a benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt for sputtering out of the gates, it would
Speaker 1: be the Chiefs, but I was wrong. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of talk about how systemically the team may be broken,
Speaker 1: about Patrick not being as good as he once was,
Speaker 1: Andy's play design not being as creative as it once was,
Speaker 1: and about how this team just isn't scary anymore. And
Speaker 1: you know, an at that we'll get to in a minute,
Speaker 1: when over the New York Giants didn't exactly quiet that
Speaker 1: for most people. We'll get to my thoughts on it
Speaker 1: in a second. And the tackle that turned the tide trademark,
Speaker 1: as Kevin Wilds would say, I wonder how folks are
Speaker 1: going to discuss the Baltimore Ravens now that they are
Speaker 1: one and two with the one victory being an uninspiring
Speaker 1: one over the Cleveland Browns. Now that they the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 1: who the benefit of doubt that they have earned is
Speaker 1: being to zero consecutive Super Bowls, zero in the last decade,
Speaker 1: one conference championship game appearance. If we are going to
Speaker 1: look at the Baltimore Ravens defense with the same critical
Speaker 1: eye that we have looked at the Kansas City Chiefs offense,
Speaker 1: a Baltimore Ravens defense that ultimately last year was not
Speaker 1: good enough, that up to this point this year has
Speaker 1: been down right awful, a Baltimore Ravens team that, on
Speaker 1: top of that, seems to situationally not be the most
Speaker 1: buttoned up in football, and a Baltimore Ravens team that,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden second best player seems to have
Speaker 1: an odd fumbling problem. Now, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: agree with me or not on this, Demanse. I do
Speaker 1: not think that game was lost on the Derrick Henry fumble.
Speaker 1: I think that that game was lost on the Ravens'
Speaker 1: entire inability to get us to stop Detroit from doing
Speaker 1: whatever they wanted on the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: And the two ninety five plus yard drives of Detroit
Speaker 1: just running it down their throat, to me was a
Speaker 1: flashing red light of concern. And it is you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of perfect that, you know, the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the Ravens now play each other on Sunday, because one
Speaker 1: of these teams is going to be zero and three
Speaker 1: with three losses to the three legitimate teams they faced,
Speaker 1: and the other team's gonna be two and two. And
Speaker 1: have studied the ship and we'll talk obviously more about
Speaker 1: that game on Thursday and Fridays, I think, but.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, go ahead, we'll talk about I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, what do you think with Kansas City winning
Speaker 2: and Baltimore coming off this loss, that it's a bad
Speaker 2: scenario for the Chiefs. Could be a potential trap game? Well?
Speaker 1: No, that again, this is I blame Wilds for this,
Speaker 1: not you. No, And nobody seems to understand what trap
Speaker 1: game means anymore. Trap game you're talking about maybe letdown
Speaker 1: spot or something. Trap game?
Speaker 2: Is you what?
Speaker 1: So let's say the Chiefs had been two to zero
Speaker 1: going into the Giants game with the Ravens coming up
Speaker 1: the following week, then the Giants are a trap game.
Speaker 1: Trap game is team flying high facing a bad opponent
Speaker 1: with a good opponent coming up. Trap game. Perfect example.
Speaker 1: Trap game is what the Packers just dealt with looking great,
Speaker 1: have the Cowboys, you know, kind of not revenge, but
Speaker 1: a big Mica game coming up, and then the Browns
Speaker 1: beat them. That's a trap game. The Chiefs playing the
Speaker 1: Ravens like not a trap game. It is a What
Speaker 1: you're talking about is the Ravens all of a sudden
Speaker 1: potentially more desperate coming off the loss. But desperation is,
Speaker 1: you know, accounts for something. Whether or not this team
Speaker 1: is quite as good as everyone assigned them as being
Speaker 1: is something else. And so let's talk about the actual
Speaker 1: game itself. So the Ravens defense was disastrous start to finish. Now,
Speaker 1: they didn't have nom Di Matabuque, but I don't know
Speaker 1: when they're getting him back. They didn't have Kyle van Noy,
Speaker 1: but I don't know when they're getting him back. And
Speaker 1: Rokwan Smith was not good. Historically, he's been excellent last year,
Speaker 1: was a little shaky. Last night he was not good. Obviously,
Speaker 1: folks are gonna focus on the Derrick Henry fumble. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about Lamar for a second. And again
Speaker 1: I texted this Greg Rosenthal this morning about alleged you know,
Speaker 1: because Greg said he didn't want to be lumped in
Speaker 1: with the quote Lamar haters, And I texted Greg, I
Speaker 1: was like, the Lamar haters group is just Bill Pollion
Speaker 1: from a decade ago in a draft evaluation. And I
Speaker 1: guess me, because everyone else in the media is in
Speaker 1: pretty much lockstep that this guy is simply unimpeachably great
Speaker 1: and one of the greatest players we've ever seen. And
Speaker 1: while I do think he's one of the greatest players
Speaker 1: we've ever seen, I think last night he was not
Speaker 1: quite as good as the numbers suggest. And let me
Speaker 1: tell you why now. Not just because that I don't
Speaker 1: really care about the final eighty yards and touchdown when
Speaker 1: they were down fourteen with less than two minutes left.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about. Even before that, like
Speaker 1: you started the game nine of ten, his pass rating
Speaker 1: was crazy. He was making some really good passes. There
Speaker 1: are two things last night that I feel are not
Speaker 1: one offs that if I were a Raven fan would
Speaker 1: be concerning. One is Lamar's refusal to throw the ball
Speaker 1: away and his hesitation to just take off and run,
Speaker 1: And those two things combining to him being sacked seven
Speaker 1: times is just a killer. Like he was great when
Speaker 1: he threw the ball, but he needed to throw the
Speaker 1: ball a little more or a little quicker or take
Speaker 1: off and run. Those sacks were drive killers time and
Speaker 1: time again. So that's the kind.
Speaker 2: Of potato crazy. And it being seven sacks, that's something
Speaker 2: that will get corrected pretty fast.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would think so, But it was the concern
Speaker 1: there is it wasn't corrected during the game. It was
Speaker 1: five sacks, you know, when they were still in the
Speaker 1: game and still on that last drive before the drive
Speaker 1: when they punted with like six minutes left, you know,
Speaker 1: he took he got sacked once there and then another
Speaker 1: one he ran, but it was essentially a sack, like, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and here's the other one. And I'm just curious if
Speaker 1: other people noticed it. Man, he seemed to be wound
Speaker 1: tight from the opening snap.
Speaker 2: He was pissed off the whole game. Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: tilted the entire time I saw it. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it was. It was like very simple stuff in
Speaker 2: the beginning.
Speaker 1: So weird that the first drive of the game that
Speaker 1: they didn't score. I don't know which dride it was,
Speaker 1: but the first time they went three and out, his
Speaker 1: like body language and emotions are really yeah and so
Speaker 1: and that is we have seen that Lamar a handful
Speaker 1: of times before. It Unfortunately for him, more often than
Speaker 1: not is in the playoffs, where like early in the game,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, he is anxious about this spot, but
Speaker 1: they were coming off a win like that. I didn't
Speaker 1: really get it. Why the last time they played Detroit,
Speaker 1: they annihilated him. He has a hilarious record in his
Speaker 1: career against NFC teams. I'm gonna pull it up real
Speaker 1: quick because it now obviously I think he was like
Speaker 1: twenty three and one. Say it again, Okay.
Speaker 2: I thought at this point he has like four losses
Speaker 2: total from the NFC. It might be less than that.
Speaker 1: Apparently, I think it's less too. The so lamar, No,
Speaker 1: you were right, you nailed it. So going into last night,
Speaker 1: he was twenty four and four in against the NFC,
Speaker 1: with forty eight touchdowns, nine picks, and like a one
Speaker 1: to oh eight rating. I think maybe he had at
Speaker 1: some point won like twenty straight or something. Whatever it was.
Speaker 1: He had had a ridiculous record against the NFC. He
Speaker 1: had beaten they annihilated the Lions last time they played
Speaker 1: he they had just come off a win, and the
Speaker 1: offense had been great in both games, or they scored
Speaker 1: forty points in both games. It was just a weird
Speaker 1: spot for him to be wound tight immediately, and those
Speaker 1: things concerned me. Man. So here is here is the
Speaker 1: I think fair read. Given everything I've said about the
Speaker 1: Chiefs being fine about where the Ravens are as they
Speaker 1: now both sit at one and two. It is hard
Speaker 1: like what either the Chiefs or the Ravens are gonna
Speaker 1: be one and three Sunday night. It will still be
Speaker 1: so hard to find seven AFC playoff teams without including
Speaker 1: both of the Chiefs and the Ravens. And here's why
Speaker 1: the Bills are three and oh they're excellent. The Chargers
Speaker 1: are three and oh they're excellent. Okay, here is the
Speaker 1: entire list of teams other than Bills and Chargers in
Speaker 1: the AFC that currently have a better record than the
Speaker 1: Ravens and Chiefs. At one and two, we're two teams.
Speaker 1: The call to are three and oh, who look excellent,
Speaker 1: But I think there is still a little bit of
Speaker 1: waiting for the bottom to fall out. And then there
Speaker 1: are only three other teams, and they all feel totally fraudulent.
Speaker 1: They the Cincinnati Banks, well, the Cincinnati Bengals who don't
Speaker 1: have their quarterback, the Steelers who are not good, flatly
Speaker 1: not good. And I worry side, you know, preview to
Speaker 1: Knicks Picks. I cannot wait to be on the Vikings
Speaker 1: this weekend as they play a London or an Ireland game,
Speaker 1: and that defense going after Aaron Rodgers, and then the Jags.
Speaker 1: Who I man, I can't. I have not been pleased
Speaker 1: with how the Jags have played through three weeks. That's
Speaker 1: it right at the and I know it's the playoffs
Speaker 1: obviously don't start today. If the playoffs started today, the
Speaker 1: AFC would have a one in two playoff team like
Speaker 1: one of the one and two teams would make it.
Speaker 1: So I will not say that the Ravens at one
Speaker 1: and two or even at one in three should panic
Speaker 1: as is making the playoffs. What I will say is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I have this confidence about the
Speaker 1: Chiefs is for a nearly a decade now, every single
Speaker 1: year they play their best ball in the postseason, home
Speaker 1: or road. No, they play their best ball in the postseason.
Speaker 1: Particularly the AFC side of the bracket. Haven't obviously always
Speaker 1: played their best ball in the super Bowl, but in
Speaker 1: the postseason they had or in the AFC side of
Speaker 1: the bracket they have. The Ravens are the opposite. And
Speaker 1: I think that the defense last year looked hugely problematic
Speaker 1: and then turned it around at mid season. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're going to be able to do that again,
Speaker 1: and so they are still very.
Speaker 2: Politent like this. This is a good offensive, I would
Speaker 2: I don't want to call them offensive juggernaut, but damn near,
Speaker 2: it's a pretty good team. They're gonna have you. But
Speaker 2: like you see, you're one of the better teams. You
Speaker 2: got to be able to beat the good teams.
Speaker 1: Correct, right, it's the the Ravens are trying to win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. They're going to have to go through
Speaker 1: the Bills, Kansas City, the Chargers just to get to
Speaker 1: whomever is in the other side of the bracket. And
Speaker 1: if you were to tell me right now, honestly, if
Speaker 1: you have an all time legend at quarterback, like the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Ravens both do, what would you rather
Speaker 1: if you're going to have to have one part of
Speaker 1: your team really be struggling early in the season, what
Speaker 1: would you rather be? Me personally, I'd rather be the
Speaker 1: side of the ball that my all time legend can
Speaker 1: help correct. So, like, if you're Kansas City, you the
Speaker 1: offense has not looked good, but Patrick is directly involved
Speaker 1: in that and has months to figure it out. If
Speaker 1: you're Baltimore, the defense has looked awful. Lamar's on the
Speaker 1: sidelines for that, and so that to me is legitimate
Speaker 1: reason for concern. All right, let's talk the Lion's side
Speaker 1: real quick, Demanse well S.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they struggled in Week one versus Green Bay, but
Speaker 2: they've been humming ever since. They are fifth in Super
Speaker 2: Bowl odds. Do you think that's too high, too low,
Speaker 2: or just right?
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I listen. I've been really impressed
Speaker 1: by how they've responded to that Week one performance and
Speaker 1: last week putting fifty on the Bears, and this week,
Speaker 1: I mean they've scored what ninety points in their last
Speaker 1: two games after having six points going late, you know,
Speaker 1: late in Week one. Really impressive. And Dan Campbell's game
Speaker 1: management is excellent. That going for that fourth down was
Speaker 1: objectively the right call and a call a lot of
Speaker 1: teams up seven wouldn't have done. And you know he
Speaker 1: is doing a lot to push towards will be fine
Speaker 1: without Ben Johnson. So yeah, no, the Lions look really,
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Speaker 1: get to the Chiefs saving their season please?
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, So, as we all know, your Chiefs
Speaker 2: got their first victory against the Giants this year, and
Speaker 2: you're already back on the never a doubt train with
Speaker 2: your tweets. Ugh yeah, so Vegas is. Vegas isn't buying
Speaker 2: into their height though they've got them as home dogs.
Speaker 2: To my Ravens is Sunday minus three. So what are
Speaker 2: you seeing different about the Chiefs that Vegas is not?
Speaker 1: Well? Listen, I I'm not gonna act like the Chiefs
Speaker 1: looked great Sunday night against the Giants. They obviously didn't.
Speaker 1: That first half was horrifying. The first half was really
Speaker 1: truly awful. So let me talk what I do think though,
Speaker 1: And I told this story on the TV show. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell it again here because having an encyclopedic memory
Speaker 1: about the Patrick Mahomes era for the Kansasity Chiefs can
Speaker 1: pay dividends. And so let me tell you guys a
Speaker 1: quick story. In twenty twenty, the Chiefs with the defending
Speaker 1: champions went back to the Super Bowl and got blasted
Speaker 1: by Tampa Bay. The next year, not only did they
Speaker 1: start out three and four, but Mahomes had the first
Speaker 1: real slump of his career. Is with Kelsey this Tyreek.
Speaker 1: They get blown out by Buffalo, they get blown out
Speaker 1: by Tennessee. They then play the Giants and need a
Speaker 1: field goal with a minute left to be a four
Speaker 1: and eventually four win. Joe Judge Giants team to get
Speaker 1: to three and four. The very next week, they play
Speaker 1: the Packers in the game Aaron Rodgers can't play in
Speaker 1: because of That's how we found out he didn't have
Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine because he was on the COVID list.
Speaker 1: And Jordan Love in his first career start comes to
Speaker 1: town and it's one of the ugliest games ever and
Speaker 1: with two minutes left. It is thirteen to seven Kansas City,
Speaker 1: and Mahomes has played terribly okay, And it is third
Speaker 1: and ten and a first down wins the game. And
Speaker 1: they don't get a first down, and they could lose
Speaker 1: outright and fall to three and five, and Patrick play
Speaker 1: breaks down. Patrick scrambles to his right off one leg,
Speaker 1: zips in a laser down the sideline to ice the game.
Speaker 1: And I went on TV the next day and said,
Speaker 1: I believe that's the moment Patrick snapped out of his funk.
Speaker 1: I believe that is the moment that the Chiefs will
Speaker 1: be the Chiefs again. And the rest of the season
Speaker 1: they lost one time and made it to the AFC
Speaker 1: Championship Game, where they did lose to the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: But the rest of it, from that moment forward, they
Speaker 1: were as good as any team in football. This year,
Speaker 1: they get blown out in the Super Bowl. They look
Speaker 1: terrible through two weeks. They are playing the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: It is a tie game. Approaching halftime, Patrick attempts to
Speaker 1: swing past Isaiah Pacheco, who runs in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1: The ball is live, it is about to be Giants
Speaker 1: thirteen to six, and the Chiefs are going to be
Speaker 1: in dire straits, and Patrick Mahomes runs down the Giants
Speaker 1: player who's about to scoop and score, takes the ball
Speaker 1: back from him, steadies the team, and from that moment
Speaker 1: forward in that game was Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: I do think we are going to look back on
Speaker 1: that moment as the moment the Chiefs steadied themselves. Now,
Speaker 1: are they going to be prolific, dynamic, dominant off the bat? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's gonna You know,
Speaker 1: Xavier will be back this week, Rice will be back
Speaker 1: in three, Yeah for sure. Oh okay, I'm the I'm
Speaker 1: telling everybody Xavier is going to be back this week.
Speaker 1: Uh no, you don't have to know. Not you're bad.
Speaker 1: You are correct in that it has not been report,
Speaker 1: but uh, I will throw on the same fake news hat.
Speaker 1: That hat is fake. The news is real that I
Speaker 1: told you guys. He definitively was not playing in week two,
Speaker 1: and I was not sure if he was playing in
Speaker 1: week three. I'm now telling you, barring something unforeseen happening,
Speaker 1: he's playing in week four. So I don't think they're fixed,
Speaker 1: to be clear, but I do think after week one
Speaker 1: I was terrified about the past defense that has slowly
Speaker 1: but surely improved. I was frustrated that Patrick still wasn't
Speaker 1: throwing the ball downfield. That has improved. It does appear
Speaker 1: that Tayekwon Thornton might be an in interesting peace. That
Speaker 1: is positive. Xavier coming back, that is positive. Rice, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Rice will be back. That will open things up for Travis.
Speaker 1: And then this is the part of this is the
Speaker 1: part of the team that right now is the shakiest
Speaker 1: and the least inspiring is the running back room. And
Speaker 1: this is where I wonder if Brett Veach is going
Speaker 1: to look at a few teams that are going nowhere,
Speaker 1: those teams being the New York Jets with Breece Hall,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins with Devin h or and this would
Speaker 1: be the dream, the New Orleans Saints with Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: and say, hey, would you guys like a draft pick
Speaker 1: for your running back? And if that happens, I think
Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense can be remade mid season. I like,
Speaker 1: I love actually how the rookie left tackle has played.
Speaker 1: The right tackle, Juwan Taylor has been good when he's
Speaker 1: not being penalized, and there are real building blocks here
Speaker 1: and now they also have an opportunity to put the
Speaker 1: Ravens in a bit of a tail spin and to
Speaker 1: where they're not the team everyone's panicked about now if
Speaker 1: they lose to the Ravens, which is certainly on the board,
Speaker 1: they are staring at being two and four when Rashi
Speaker 1: comes back. Because you lose to the Ravens, it's very
Speaker 1: hard to then say you expect them to beat the Lions.
Speaker 1: But they do have the Jags in between them, and
Speaker 1: I have not been impressed by the Jags thus far
Speaker 1: this year, but I think the I think this could
Speaker 1: have gone left on Kansas City, and I think it
Speaker 1: was going left when that ball was bouncing around the
Speaker 1: MetLife turf and it looked like it was about to
Speaker 1: be thirteen to six Giants, and then Patrick made what
Speaker 1: I believe, and we can come back and check on
Speaker 1: this what will go down as one of the most
Speaker 1: important regular season plays of his career. And I think
Speaker 1: that they've at least been steadied. Before we get to
Speaker 1: the other follow ups, de Monts go to the chat
Speaker 1: question if you would.
Speaker 2: Uh, Bryce asked Nick. Let's say the Chiefs are a
Speaker 2: lesser version of last year, not flash she will get
Speaker 2: into the playoffs at the five spot out in round two.
Speaker 2: They still get the benefit of the doubt next year
Speaker 2: with this same start.
Speaker 1: No, if they listen, if the Chiefs go ten and
Speaker 1: seven and lose in the divisional round and then start
Speaker 1: next year poorly, then we say okay, like they are
Speaker 1: in a transition phase like the but when they are
Speaker 1: literally still in the midst of the most successful seven
Speaker 1: year period any team has had in the history of
Speaker 1: the sport. It's to me two games was too quick
Speaker 1: of a trigger, and it isn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not even having like their full strength roster.
Speaker 1: Correct And now, to be fair, like Danny said this
Speaker 1: on the show yesterday, and he's right, some of the
Speaker 1: problems for the Chiefs are not solved by getting receivers back,
Speaker 1: Like the running back problem is not solved by that.
Speaker 1: The pass rush problem is not solved by that. So
Speaker 1: it's not all that, but that's part of it. But
Speaker 1: here's another, I think fun or interesting fact. So the
Speaker 1: Chiefs have made seven straight AFC championship games. The only
Speaker 1: team in league history to make more than seven consecutive
Speaker 1: conference championship games is the New England Patriots from twenty
Speaker 1: eleven to twenty eighteen, they made eight straight. Okay, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of perfect because the Patriots made every championship
Speaker 1: game in the AFC from twenty eleven until twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, they played the Kansas City Chiefs in
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Game, and from that moment, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have made every AFC championship game. So from twenty eleven
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four in the Chiefs and the Pats
Speaker 1: have played in every Sea Conference championship game. Exactly right.
Speaker 1: In that eight year stretch, Demonsey where the Patriots made
Speaker 1: five Super Bowls, won three, and made eight straight conference
Speaker 1: championship games, they started two and two half of those seasons.
Speaker 1: Four of the eight years they started two and two.
Speaker 1: Now didn't start one and three. And so Kansas City,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. This is a big game
Speaker 1: on Sunday, But two and two is not a problem.
Speaker 1: And two and two, if it comes with a win
Speaker 1: over the Ravens, will make you feel very good. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's get to the follow ups here.
Speaker 2: Kelsey had another sideline out burst with Andy Reid, are
Speaker 2: you a are you nervous about this? Is this becoming
Speaker 2: a thing.
Speaker 1: So listen, let's Andy at halftime said that the team
Speaker 1: needed juice. Here's what Andy said after the game. So
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Do I understand the frustration that if
Speaker 1: we're listen, this is what's right, we're honest about this stuff,
Speaker 1: that there is a level of passion that white athletes
Speaker 1: are you know, get to get away with and not
Speaker 1: be you know, painted with a broad brush that black
Speaker 1: athletes or not. I totally get that, do I do?
Speaker 1: I think that there is that we you know, whether
Speaker 1: it be Tom Brady screaming at Bill O'Brien or or
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey literally bumping Andy Reid during a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: that plays differently if a lot of things aren't true.
Speaker 1: It's not just that they're white, but that helps, but
Speaker 1: also that they're all time legends and they're great and
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that they've won share. All
Speaker 1: of that is in the stew of what we're going
Speaker 1: to freak out about or not Versus George Pickens throwing
Speaker 1: his helmet. I get that piece of it, and I
Speaker 1: understand that people think that's unfair or what I like.
Speaker 1: I get that the distinction that I am going to
Speaker 1: draw and this is not an excuse or even an explanation.
Speaker 1: It's just a reality. Is when people are trying to
Speaker 1: use this as evidence something is wrong with the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: something is off. The point that I will make is
Speaker 1: when it comes to Travis, He's always been this way.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who, in his second year in
Speaker 1: the league had a ref throw a flag at him,
Speaker 1: and he picked up the flag and threw it back
Speaker 1: at him. This is a guy that, in the first
Speaker 1: padded training camp practice after the Chiefs won a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl three years ago, punched a teammate in the helmet.
Speaker 2: I rewatched that video last night. That dude didn't even
Speaker 2: do nothing.
Speaker 1: I know, I did nothing. That was right. You're talking
Speaker 1: about the training camp punch. Yeah, they did nothing. It's
Speaker 1: a team, it's a teammate at training camp coming off
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. And then Travis went on his pod
Speaker 1: said he's got to be better. And if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: the next week did it again, get another teammate. This
Speaker 1: is a guy who during the Super Bowl almost knocked
Speaker 1: Andy Reid to the ground in early in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl they won, and in this instance, he in Week
Speaker 1: one head budded Juwan Taylor and in this instance, Andy
Speaker 1: hits him like I'm just gonna be I This was
Speaker 1: not Travis hitting Andy again, this was not elder abuse.
Speaker 1: This was Andy bumping Travis and and so right for real,
Speaker 1: And so I'm not excusing it. I'm simply saying he's
Speaker 1: been he's been this intense for a decade, and to me,
Speaker 1: it is And listen, is there extra frustration for the
Speaker 1: Chiefs right now about the offense, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Do I think that led to Mahomes having two lateral
Speaker 1: backward passes in that game like a little as on edge.
Speaker 1: I do think that, like I do, has that maybe
Speaker 1: led to Mahomes missing some passes? Sure, but it just
Speaker 1: is what it is. And I think that because of
Speaker 1: Andy's disposition and he it's very weird, weird the wrong
Speaker 1: word interesting, what bothers and doesn't bother Andy, And he
Speaker 1: is so much more bothered by someone getting in an
Speaker 1: illegal formation penalty for lack of attention to detail pre
Speaker 1: snap than he is by Kelsey losing his shit on
Speaker 1: the sideline, and that just that. So that's where I
Speaker 1: stand on it. I don't think I'm if people think
Speaker 1: it's a double standard I have or whatever, like people
Speaker 1: can think whatever they want. I'm just being honest about
Speaker 1: what I think about it and how I think it
Speaker 1: impacts or doesn't impact the Chiefs, and so that's where
Speaker 1: you know, that's where I stand on that. And as
Speaker 1: far as Chris Jones, if people didn't see it, he
Speaker 1: evidently has been trying to get Russell Wilson's jersey for years.
Speaker 1: Russ has never given it to him, and then he
Speaker 1: was asked after the game if he tried again, and
Speaker 1: Chris said, I don't want it anymore. I would love
Speaker 1: to know the real story behind that. Why. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I listen, No all time great players want you know,
Speaker 1: other all time And it's weird because Chris is an
Speaker 1: all time great and so I don't know why Russ
Speaker 1: wouldn't give it.
Speaker 2: To him previous players player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but does he not jersey swap with anybody? I
Speaker 1: don't know, because there's a really have you seen the
Speaker 1: video of Miles Garrett talking to Roger rosen Garden of
Speaker 1: the Ravens when rosen Garden was a young player. He's
Speaker 1: still relatively young, but I think it was a rookie years.
Speaker 1: It's one of the coolest Miles Garrett videos ever. It's
Speaker 1: so awesome. After a Ravens Browns game, Oh russ, Oh,
Speaker 1: he changed jerseys with Mahomes. Evidently the Mahomes looks like
Speaker 1: his rookie or second year.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So Roger rosen Garden, who's a tackle for the Ravens,
Speaker 1: goes up to Miles Garrett after a game and says,
Speaker 1: like they're doing the handshakes forever. He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I know I'm a nobody, but is there any way
Speaker 1: I could get that jersey from you? And Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: said hey. It was like sincerely. It was like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you're in the league, your team's winning games, you're doing
Speaker 1: your thing. You're not a nobody. And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you. And it was like he was. Rosengarden
Speaker 1: was legit thrilled about it. And it was so cool
Speaker 1: of Miles Garrett after a game, undoubtedly that his team
Speaker 1: had lost, and the but a recognize kind of his
Speaker 1: standing in the league, like I'm a standard bearer, I'm
Speaker 1: an all time great. This kid wants my jersey and
Speaker 1: I'm going to lift him up. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a really cool Miles Garrett moment. The producers are putting
Speaker 1: a bunch of pictures in the chat or in the
Speaker 1: dock of Russ doing jersey exchanges. But listen, in Ross
Speaker 1: Polson's defense, maybe he only does quarterbacks. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he's doing it with Josh Allen Mahomes and Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. And he also did one with
Speaker 1: Dk Metcalf, but Dk was a former teammate. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I can't figure this one out.
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Speaker 1: Let's do Eagles Rams?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what the egg's going on over there in Philly?
Speaker 2: Hurts was four for eight in three for eighteen yards
Speaker 2: at halftime and then finish the game with two hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty six yards and three touchdowns. So what's going
Speaker 2: on over there? Why is Siriani in the offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: kind of putting shackles on the offense.
Speaker 1: It's so weird because Sunday's game was really bizarre. And
Speaker 1: if not for uh Sean McVeigh, as great of a
Speaker 1: coach as he is, being so conservative so consistently when
Speaker 1: it comes to fourth down stuff, the Rams might have
Speaker 1: simply put the game away early on. And obviously the
Speaker 1: Eagles needed two blocked field goals in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: to come away with what really is a one point victory,
Speaker 1: but we'll go in the books as a seven point victory,
Speaker 1: which will go down as an all time bad beat
Speaker 1: for Rams plus three and a half, just an all timer.
Speaker 1: But this, this is not just something to watch but
Speaker 1: something that's pretty fascinating, which is the new offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: Kevin Battullo and or Nick Sirianni simply don't want to
Speaker 1: let Jalen throw the ball and only did it when
Speaker 1: they had no other.
Speaker 2: Choice, I think, and last like limit.
Speaker 1: I get that, but SA's not having a good year. Now.
Speaker 1: It's early, but of the five least productive games of
Speaker 1: Saquon's career with the Eagles, three of the five have
Speaker 1: been weeks one, two, and three. Right. Week one, they're
Speaker 1: in a dog fight, can lose. Week two, they're in
Speaker 1: a dog fight, can lose. Week three they're down huge.
Speaker 1: So it's not like last year where Saquon's crushing everyone.
Speaker 1: They're blowing people out. Why change what we're doing. It
Speaker 1: hasn't been that and they still are treating Jalen Hurd's
Speaker 1: passing as if it's break glass in case of emergency.
Speaker 1: It's really odd. And while I don't, I mean, Jalen
Speaker 1: had more passes of ten plus yards down the field
Speaker 1: in the second half yesterday or Sunday than he had
Speaker 1: in the previous the first ten quarters of the season,
Speaker 1: and so AJ Brown wants them to throw the ball more.
Speaker 1: I think Jalen wants them to throw the ball more.
Speaker 1: His posts on the field interviews happy seemed yeah, and
Speaker 1: it seemed to imply like we can do this if
Speaker 1: you'll let me. And so it is just something to
Speaker 1: watch and something interesting because you're not used to seeing
Speaker 1: a team. In fact, it's almost unprecedented for a team
Speaker 1: that has a great quarterback, which Jalen hurts is supposed
Speaker 1: to be, to look at passing like they call the
Speaker 1: games like the Ryan Tannehill, Derek Henry Raven or Titans,
Speaker 1: where it's like I get and that team, by the way,
Speaker 1: also at AJ Brown, but where it's like, I guess
Speaker 1: if we have to, And so that is that is
Speaker 1: unique to me, I guess, uh, And something to watch
Speaker 1: and I wonder how it changes this weekend against the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: All right, what else you got here?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, you called this year's Eagles last year's Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Do you can't explain that?
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, I will explain it. Let me hold on
Speaker 1: one of my AirPods just died. Let me see if
Speaker 1: I can get it back going again. Talk to me
Speaker 1: real quick, Tom, let.
Speaker 2: Me see if yeah, Chiefs, Yeah, I got it?
Speaker 1: Okay, good?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean to me, it's pretty obvious they are
Speaker 1: undefeated in the standings but winless in hypothetical scenarios. If
Speaker 1: CD Lamb could catch, if Travis Kelsey doesn't babble the ball,
Speaker 1: if the field goal doesn't get blocked, they are now
Speaker 1: to a place where opposing fans are zupprud or filming
Speaker 1: their games to be like missed call? What about this?
Speaker 1: Here's a foul.
Speaker 2: A little with that team, but that stupid? What do
Speaker 2: you mean, Well, it's just like I think that people
Speaker 2: are gonna be like, where's the flag at when they've
Speaker 2: got that unstoppable touch push like people were, people are
Speaker 2: closely and they want like I.
Speaker 1: Think, yeah, but so hold on more on that in
Speaker 1: a second. But no, people were doing it on like
Speaker 1: they were like a J. Brown pushed off on his touchdown.
Speaker 1: They they're they're giving them the full not the full
Speaker 1: conspiracy treatment, but the full pouring over it with a
Speaker 1: fine tooth comb treatment. Their fans feel like the team
Speaker 1: is constantly disrespected, even though they're high in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl odds and everybody talks about them as a great team.
Speaker 1: And they literally won a game with a blocked kick
Speaker 1: like the like the Chiefs did against the Broncos like.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of similarities in that regard. Now,
Speaker 1: when it comes to the toush push or as I
Speaker 1: have coined it, did you see this is one of
Speaker 1: my what have you coined it? Well, it's not the
Speaker 1: touch push anymore. It's the toush push when other teams
Speaker 1: do it, because did you see the Saints try to
Speaker 1: do it and they got called for a false start?
Speaker 1: And they did. The Saints did it early in their game,
Speaker 1: got called for a false start. The Eagles did it
Speaker 1: early in their game, did false start and didn't get
Speaker 1: called for it, And on the broadcast, Mike Preyer pointed out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that same right guard, he's false starting again, which is
Speaker 1: why it's no longer the touch push demonse when Philly
Speaker 1: does it, it's the early bird.
Speaker 2: That's the early that's a good one.
Speaker 1: The early bird that's a good one. It's the early Bird.
Speaker 1: They they can do it, only they can do it.
Speaker 1: And so years ago they tried to get Brotherly Shoved going.
Speaker 1: So it was like Philly related. It didn't take on.
Speaker 1: The early Bird's gonna take on. All right, Let's get
Speaker 1: to some of these other games. My god, there's so
Speaker 1: many games. We're gonna have to do these fast, buddy.
Speaker 2: So the Chargers first three and oh starts since twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, and Herbert has.
Speaker 1: Since two thousand and two, hold on since two crap yeah.
Speaker 2: Number one, yeah, two thousand and two, guys, So he's
Speaker 2: got the third best odds to win IMVP right now. Denver.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, they have not start off great.
Speaker 2: You've already taken your victory up there, he said. You
Speaker 2: didn't like that preseason debate on them. Yeah, bigger story
Speaker 2: is the Broncos early struggles or the Chargers hot start.
Speaker 1: Well, for most it's the Chargers hot start. And let
Speaker 1: me listen, Chargers look great, looks amazing Herbert made. Herbert
Speaker 1: didn't really play great this weekend, but he made the
Speaker 1: play to win the game. And this was Herbert's least
Speaker 1: productive game then. But it also had his most iconic play,
Speaker 1: and that play up to this point is I think
Speaker 1: the offensive play of the NFL season is that Herbert
Speaker 1: throw after the Chargers had blown the lead to get
Speaker 1: them back. You know, I think that tied the game,
Speaker 1: and then obviously they win it on the field goal.
Speaker 1: Chargers are going to be someone to deal with now.
Speaker 1: The injuries are starting to mount a bit, and you
Speaker 1: always worry about that with the Chargers, but there's obviously
Speaker 1: someone to watch. The Denver thing, though, for me, is
Speaker 1: the story because I took so much shit from annoying
Speaker 1: Denver media and fans about being scared of them, about
Speaker 1: not respecting them, about all of this, when through three
Speaker 1: games they are the exact team I told you they
Speaker 1: would be a very good defense whose offensive quarterback can
Speaker 1: not cut it against good teams. And up to this
Speaker 1: point in the season, they beat the Titans, lost to
Speaker 1: a three and oh Colts team, and lost to a
Speaker 1: three and oh Chargers team, and bo Nicks has been
Speaker 1: shaky the entire season, made a few really nice plays
Speaker 1: and missed a bunch of wide open guys, And this
Speaker 1: wouldn't be something to harp on except for two facts.
Speaker 1: One is, if you remember Demanse when I said that
Speaker 1: I thought the Broncos were gonna finish last in this
Speaker 1: division and the Broncos weren't going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I baked into it that I thought they might get
Speaker 1: off to an excellent start. That I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: people are gonna be throwing stuff in my face early
Speaker 1: and then late in the year when the schedule goes Chiefs, Commanders, Raiders, Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Chargers,
Speaker 1: that's when the falloff's gonna happen. Fall off. They might
Speaker 1: not get there before the falloff happens. So that's one reason.
Speaker 1: The other one is Sean Payton said this was one
Speaker 1: of seven teams he ever coached that he thought actually
Speaker 1: could win the Super Bowl. For the record, here, guys,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton coached the New Orleans Saints for fifteen years,
Speaker 1: so he told us this is better than nearly a
Speaker 1: dozen of his Saints teams with Drew Breesh. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: see it, and I I think the Broncos have a
Speaker 1: great defense, a coach who bit off a little more
Speaker 1: than he could choose expectation wise, and a limited quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought going into the year, and we'll
Speaker 1: By the way, I also had to hear all off
Speaker 1: seasons like, oh, what about the additions of Ufanga and Greenlaw?
Speaker 1: And I said, listen, those are two excellent players who
Speaker 1: have had trouble staying healthy thus far. Hufanga's been really good,
Speaker 1: green Law hasn't played a game for them. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get too Brown's packers, please.
Speaker 2: All right, everybody was drunk on Green Bay. That hit
Speaker 2: a little snag with that Brown's loss this weekend. They
Speaker 2: allowed thirteen straight fourth quarter points. After the game, Parsons said,
Speaker 2: undefeated seasons, they're hard in the NFL, and sometimes, just
Speaker 2: like today, you ask the bed, even the best Super
Speaker 2: Bowl champs make mistakes. Clearly, the team's expectations have not changed,
Speaker 2: have yours at all? After seeing that game?
Speaker 1: Listen, No, And in fact, this was a game that
Speaker 1: kind of confirmed to me my take when they traded
Speaker 1: for Micah, which is that Jordan Love's the most intriguing
Speaker 1: player in the NFL this year because they have the
Speaker 1: pieces to be a true A List contender. Jordan just
Speaker 1: can't screw it up, and in that Browns game, he
Speaker 1: screwed it up. That Browns defense is excellent. I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna kill the Packers for not being very productive
Speaker 1: on offense. I'm not gonna kill Jordan Love for not
Speaker 1: being productive on offense because they didn't need to be.
Speaker 1: What he needed to do was not make a mistake.
Speaker 1: And when you're up ten to three with a few
Speaker 1: minutes left and the Browns have done nothing on offense
Speaker 1: the entire game, all you can't do is throw a
Speaker 1: pick in your own territory. And that's what he did.
Speaker 1: And like people are gonna get on Micah about getting
Speaker 1: ahead of himself, the pack defense was excellent in that game.
Speaker 1: The Packers defense allowed. Yes, they allowed a touchdown at
Speaker 1: the end, but that drive started at the four thanks
Speaker 1: to the pick. All you have to do is not
Speaker 1: turn the ball over. Now, to Jordan's credit, he did
Speaker 1: drive them then back down the field for what should
Speaker 1: have been the game winning field goal, but that got
Speaker 1: blocked in the weekend of blocked kicks. If Jordan Love
Speaker 1: can just be steady, the Packers can beat anybody. But
Speaker 1: when he turned there in his career, they're four and fourteen,
Speaker 1: or sorry, fourteen and four. When he doesn't turn the
Speaker 1: ball over and have a I don't remember exactly what
Speaker 1: it is, but a really bad record, losing record when
Speaker 1: he does. Just don't turn the ball over, bro. And
Speaker 1: if you have to get in a shootout, I think
Speaker 1: he has the talent to win some shootouts. But that
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Speaker 1: let's get to cowboys bears before we get to our
Speaker 1: quick hitters.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so my guy, Caleb Williams due for nearly
Speaker 2: three hundred yards and four touchdowns. He's my guy. Now
Speaker 2: I'm taking them from you longer your guy.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: But it was against that lowly Cowboys defense. Do you
Speaker 2: think that we learned anything new about Caleb Williams in
Speaker 2: this game?
Speaker 1: The I think yeah. It was obviously a super positive game.
Speaker 1: Obviously the Cowboys defense is going to give a lot
Speaker 1: of guys great games. But Caleb took advantage of it.
Speaker 1: And we've seen steady progression. And now the Bears have
Speaker 1: a chance. They play the Raiders on Sunday, then they
Speaker 1: have the bye, beat the Raiders get your bye, and
Speaker 1: then you know who they play Week six to Monday,
Speaker 1: the team that ended their year last year, Jaden and
Speaker 1: the Commanders on the Hail Mary, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's a good flip the narrative opportunity for them.
Speaker 1: Will say it again.
Speaker 2: Will Jaden be in that game?
Speaker 1: I would imagine because Jaden missed Week three, that game
Speaker 1: is week six. I don't think Jayden's gonna miss four
Speaker 1: weeks with his knees sprain, you know, and so I
Speaker 1: I would imagine he'll be there.
Speaker 2: That's a good.
Speaker 1: Demons is Jade and your guy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jayden's white guy too.
Speaker 1: I like, like, okay, you can't have the same draft class.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that. Yeah, And so that Caleb, as CJ.
Speaker 1: Shrouds teaching everybody, life can come at you fast in
Speaker 1: this league, and narratives can flip fast, and so like,
Speaker 1: this is a really good opportunity for Caleb. Now you
Speaker 1: don't want to get over your skis about it, but
Speaker 1: he was excellent in that game. And the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: just a mess. And now Ceedee Lamb, by the way,
Speaker 1: the Nick Wright injury inflation calculator stays undefeated. Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: initial reporting high ankle sprain, but escaped major injury. Latest
Speaker 1: reporting he's gonna miss at least two weeks, maybe four.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys this can get away from them in
Speaker 1: a hurry. They are a sixty four yard field goal
Speaker 1: against the Giants away from being zero and three. And
Speaker 1: without Ceedee Lamb, this offense isn't gonna be able to
Speaker 1: keep up, and the defense is awful, and so they
Speaker 1: tray Von Diggs is not right, Bland is hurt, they
Speaker 1: don't have a pass rush. Cowboys might be cooked here,
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna put it all on Dak's shoulders,
Speaker 1: and Javonte Williams been decent, but I don't know how
Speaker 1: much I trust the Cowboys' ability, you know, to get
Speaker 1: to six wins, much less be a real playoff contender.
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Speaker 1: all set. All right, demons, we're gonna quickly go through
Speaker 1: these games. You and me Bill's Dolphin's Thursday Night. It
Speaker 1: was very odd to me that after that game was
Speaker 1: the day people, you know, Greeney and others came out
Speaker 1: with the Josh Allen's Greatest player I've ever seen take
Speaker 1: Like I thought Josh Allen was fine in that game.
Speaker 1: They you know, they were. That story to me was
Speaker 1: about the running backs and it was about Tua just
Speaker 1: not having the juice, like they did everything they could
Speaker 1: in that game to be competitive, and then the roughing
Speaker 1: the punter is just a killer. But despite that, they
Speaker 1: had a chance and Tua just threw an inexplicable pick,
Speaker 1: and now everyone in Miami's got to be like, man,
Speaker 1: why is this the guy.
Speaker 2: Okus a little bit right, Daniel?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, but McDaniel, here's the deal. I think
Speaker 1: McDaniel signed off on giving two of that money. But
Speaker 1: they're just they're in brutal shape. Bucks escape again against
Speaker 1: the You know, this was a weird one because the
Speaker 1: Bucks were kicking a field goal to ice the game
Speaker 1: up twenty six twenty It gets blocked and returned for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. All of a sudden, they're down twenty seven
Speaker 1: to twenty six. The Bucks and Baker then do what
Speaker 1: the Bucks and Baker do, drive down the field. I
Speaker 1: did not get the Baker live bet in shamefully, I was.
Speaker 1: It's too much going on in that moment. The Buck win,
Speaker 1: but it was a costly win. They are now down
Speaker 1: Demons currently three offensive linemen. One of their best pass rushers,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, you know, tweaked that hamstring right, and now
Speaker 1: they play Philly. But the Bucks have to feel amazing
Speaker 1: that despite all these injuries, they're three to zero with
Speaker 1: three final minute wins, and now they've given themselves a
Speaker 1: little margin of error the Colts blasted the Titans. This
Speaker 1: is one of the worst. I had three of the
Speaker 1: worst bets I've ever had on this show. This was
Speaker 1: one of them. I picked it the Titans plus points,
Speaker 1: said they could win out right. The game starts with
Speaker 1: a pick six and it is just unbelievable. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Colts look really, really good.
Speaker 2: What do you think about Danny? I mean, there's something there,
Speaker 2: and there is something he said about his calmness in
Speaker 2: the pocket. The really will just sit there and get
Speaker 2: rid of it. He doesn't panic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this, So, I mean, listen, I don't
Speaker 1: believe that this Colts thing is sustainable, but I have
Speaker 1: to be fair. They've been unbelievable. They've been written now.
Speaker 1: Part of it is playing the Titans and the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: But still like three and oh's three and oh and
Speaker 1: they look great. The Jags beat the Texans. The Jags
Speaker 1: did not look good. They do not yet know how
Speaker 1: to use Travis Hunter, which is so disappointing. And the
Speaker 1: Texans bro the Texans demonte have allowed fifty one total points.
Speaker 1: They've allowed fifty one points and they're own three. The
Speaker 1: defense has the first team in twenty years to allow
Speaker 1: fewer than fifty five points through three weeks and not
Speaker 1: have a win. And CJ's just a shell of himself
Speaker 1: and that offense.
Speaker 2: So it's the top three quarterbacks in the league after
Speaker 2: his first year in the league.
Speaker 1: Man, he did a lot after that first year, did
Speaker 1: that world tour with Micah was given. You know, was
Speaker 1: coaching up Kaleb as a young fella after week two,
Speaker 1: and it's just he's got to be better. That offense
Speaker 1: has to be better. And I'm ready to say the
Speaker 1: Texans are done, like zero to three. I just think
Speaker 1: they're done. The Steelers beat the Patriots and one of
Speaker 1: the worst football games ever played. The Patriots turned the
Speaker 1: ball over five times. The Aaron Rodgers did not play
Speaker 1: very well in that game, but it didn't matter. The
Speaker 1: Patriots moved the ball. That Steelers defense, good for them
Speaker 1: for forcing turnovers, but I do not believe in that team,
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna go overseas. Yes, I mean
Speaker 1: the forcing the turnovers is good, uh, but the Pats
Speaker 1: don't know how to win. And I think the Steelers
Speaker 1: have looked incredibly shaky to be two and one. Commanders
Speaker 1: beat the Raiders in a game hand up that I
Speaker 1: didn't watch much because Jade wasn't playing and the Raiders
Speaker 1: right now just can't block. Credit to Gino for making,
Speaker 1: you know, moving the ball somewhat. Ashton gent still now
Speaker 1: has more yards after contact than he has total yards,
Speaker 1: and the Commanders get a nice one with the backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: This is another one of my worst bets ever. I
Speaker 1: had the Falcons laying five on the road. They get
Speaker 1: beat thirty to nothing. Bryce didn't even really play well.
Speaker 1: Bryce had like one hundred and forty yards. This was
Speaker 1: Michael Pennox was awful, just awful, And that's a concerning one.
Speaker 1: That's a horrible, horrible loss for the Atlanta Falcons. The
Speaker 1: Vikings defense makes Jake Browning look just horrific. That defense
Speaker 1: looked amazing. The Vikings also oddly ruled out JJ McCarthy
Speaker 1: for Week four right after that game. That was curious
Speaker 1: to me. But they're rolling with WinCE for this overseas
Speaker 1: game against Pittsburgh. The Seahawks beat the Saints by a million.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch that game. I know thee The Saints
Speaker 1: are a mess. They're probably I thought the Panthers were
Speaker 1: the worst team in football. It looks like it's the
Speaker 1: Saints and the forty nine ers and Mac Jones, despite
Speaker 1: a late Mac interception, get the stop they need against
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and then drive down for a field goal.
Speaker 1: They're three to zero, but they lose Nicky Bosa for
Speaker 1: the year. That's the whole rest of the league we
Speaker 1: didn't talk about. Also, Ben Simmons, I gotta tell you
Speaker 1: they went fishing that the people that listen to this
Speaker 1: show a lot.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I love fishing. I'm a little jealous that fish in
Speaker 1: the bottom right, I have caught one of those. The
Speaker 1: other three fish that he caught, I have not. And
Speaker 1: the one in the top right looks amazing. That's not
Speaker 1: the one that Yeah, that's me a long time ago.
Speaker 1: But that fish in the top right looks sick. The
Speaker 1: fish in the bottom right I've caught. I think I've
Speaker 1: caught one of those, at least from where it looks
Speaker 1: like here. All right. M Trey asked me, Demons, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do these real quick. Uh is my Ryder Cup
Speaker 1: pick USA or Europe? It's USA, obviously, because I'm going
Speaker 1: to it. Benjamin asked, do I have any recommendations for
Speaker 1: raising a child to be a sports fan? I'm from Minnesota,
Speaker 1: but living in Chicago. Uh, don't would love him to
Speaker 1: root for my teams. Won't want to push him. You
Speaker 1: gotta He's your kid. One of the things in life
Speaker 1: you get to decide is what teams your kid roots
Speaker 1: for as a kid, Make them root for your teams
Speaker 1: like that, and then if as an adult, if they
Speaker 1: want to change, they can change. And Daniel says he's
Speaker 1: a loyal Cardinals fan. What was Arizona need to succeed
Speaker 1: and win their division? Listen, I don't I like the
Speaker 1: head coach, and I like what they're building defensively. Most
Speaker 1: important thing right now is is Marvin Harrison Junior's got
Speaker 1: to get back to being Marvin Harrison Junior. Speaking of that,
Speaker 1: Chris says, did Jim Harbaugh body swap Quentin Johnson Marvin
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior. It's unbelievable, the Marvin Harrison Junior fall off.
Speaker 1: I did not see coming. All Right, I've got to
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