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Speaker 1: What's up, Mets fans, We're back here for episode number

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Speaker 1: sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: Nice of course.

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Speaker 1: We got to give a shot to sixty nine, the

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Speaker 1: greatest number there's ever been. Sixty ninth episode the Mets

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Speaker 1: of the podcast we made it. We don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about this episode. Honestly, there's really nothing.

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Speaker 1: The biggest news is that Joey Korra has been announced

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Speaker 1: as a new third base coach for the Mets end.

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Speaker 1: Our opinion is that he can't be worse than d Sarsina, Right, Nah, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: What we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Mets, most Mets history, most

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Speaker 1: Mets moments.

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Speaker 1: Some just crazy things that you can't even believe happened

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Speaker 1: quite the list here. Me and James probably got about,

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Speaker 1: you know, three or four things each that we want

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Speaker 1: gonna take in number sixty nine. It's a fun episode.

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Speaker 1: Have fun with this one, and again kind of as

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Speaker 1: the most Mets team of all time. We're gonna put

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Speaker 1: it in the past. After we talk about these moments.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to hear about them again because that's

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Speaker 1: the old Mets. We got the new Mets. Now we

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Speaker 2: There's a few we might still hear about it.

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Speaker 3: There's some funny things that have happened that weren't really

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Speaker 2: Something to it. We'll get to it.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, you know, we gotta do the spiel for

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Speaker 1: the intro. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok at, met stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty two. Also, Happy New Year, everybody, Happy

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Speaker 1: But anyway, my twenty twenty two New Year's resolution was

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Speaker 1: gonna be the content's gonna be killer now because I've

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Speaker 3: And one more thing we have some homework for our listeners,

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Speaker 3: guys have. So that's all Mark, everybody watch it if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's gonna be our little review, little notes

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Speaker 1: It's not looking great, but that's our plan moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Mike Scott that year in nineteen eighty six was eighteen

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Speaker 1: He was absolutely disgusting or Cy Young candidate, I should say,

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Speaker 2: But that's not even the craziest story.

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Speaker 3: That came after a Game five in Queens at the

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Speaker 3: And as everybody knows about the nineteen eighty six mess,

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Speaker 3: And again, this is nice little teaser for next week.

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Speaker 3: We go through Once upon a Time in Queen's But

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Speaker 3: there was a ton of emotion in that series from

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Speaker 3: I didn't even play in the either game. That's how

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Speaker 3: So the game ends, and naturally the Mets go back

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Speaker 3: And this started getting crazy, and that's just won the

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Speaker 1: Did you imagine how cool that would be to be

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Speaker 3: He actually got cut off on a plane because he's

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Speaker 3: They should do an episode about this rather than Bogs

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Speaker 1: I mean, these Mets teams are crazy, like crazy.

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Speaker 2: There's still more, There's still more, and now these guys

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Speaker 3: People are puking, doing cocaine, having sex, chocolate frosting all

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Speaker 1: And then they get out of JFK to a group

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Speaker 3: There was one first hand account of anonymous wife or

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Speaker 3: The players who went on there wearing suits and ties

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Speaker 1: If the nineteen eighty six Mets had Twitter would not survive,

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Speaker 3: And they sent the seventy five one hundred dollars bill

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars bill for destroying a plane an aircraft a

439
00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,640
Speaker 3: DC toen a monster has not Trump changed. Only four

440
00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,439
Speaker 3: players that Mets team made one million dollars that season

441
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,800
Speaker 3: before attacks, and thirteen of them made less than one

442
00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,840
Speaker 3: hundred thousand, which is even crazier. Cash just destroyed David

443
00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,080
Speaker 3: Johnson after this, same with the traveling secretary, who and

444
00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,320
Speaker 3: again Davy was part of this debauschtrae. The traveling secretary

445
00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,240
Speaker 3: wasn't horror on this plane. He said, this is on you.

446
00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,440
Speaker 3: You guys have to foot the bill, And Davy Johnson

447
00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,879
Speaker 3: took this as an opportunity to deliver one of his

448
00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,840
Speaker 3: greatest lines of all time as one of the best

449
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Speaker 3: player managers anyone in baseball's ever seen.

450
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Speaker 2: Walking into the locker room told the team what had happened.

451
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Speaker 3: They were also shocked. Somehow, the Mets didn't even realize

452
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Speaker 3: what they had done. You know, they were that insane. Also,

453
00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,679
Speaker 3: that drunk probably.

454
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Speaker 1: Didn't remember, yeah, that high doing blowing lines in the

455
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Speaker 1: bathroom of the aircraft with their wives.

456
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Speaker 3: He said, what do you guys think about this? What

457
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,240
Speaker 3: do you guys think about this? It fell on quiety years.

458
00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,400
Speaker 3: No one had the response, again, what do you guys

459
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:05,880
Speaker 3: think of it?

460
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,480
Speaker 2: No answers. He said, you know what I think.

461
00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,160
Speaker 3: I think over these next four games, you'll probably put

462
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,159
Speaker 3: enough money in these guys pockets to cover it.

463
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,880
Speaker 2: So fuck this bullshit. And everyone went ballistic.

464
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,240
Speaker 3: And that would end up being the rally and cry

465
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,399
Speaker 3: for the Mets in the World Series that they almost

466
00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,320
Speaker 3: blew a series. They started off very sluggishly because they

467
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,879
Speaker 3: had the party of a lifetime on a plane.

468
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Speaker 2: They're still recovery.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, three to hangover, probably for these guys in

470
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Speaker 3: the early thirties. And the best quotes to come out

471
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Speaker 3: of it was from a pitcher, Randy Neeman, who was

472
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Speaker 3: a pretty small part of this team. He was one

473
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Speaker 3: of those guys making less than one hundred thousand dollars

474
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Speaker 3: on the season. He said, it wasn't just guys destroying

475
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Speaker 3: a plane. It was guys destroying a plane after an

476
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Speaker 3: emotional roller coaster.

477
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Speaker 2: There's a difference.

478
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Speaker 3: Oh and their goddamn was The Mets extras had some

479
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 3: demons on that plane. And while they did start that

480
00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,639
Speaker 3: series against the Red Sox off slowly, they made a

481
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 3: massive comeback, winning Game six and seven and the rest

482
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:52,639
Speaker 3: is history.

483
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Speaker 1: And the Mets also have a great history with Houston too,

484
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 1: because earlier in that season it was what Ron Darling,

485
00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,919
Speaker 1: Baboheita and Rick Aguilera who got into brawl to Houston

486
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,280
Speaker 1: bar tough on as well. Yeah, they got into a bar, arrested,

487
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,879
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff, all just picking fights with

488
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Speaker 1: anybody because they were playing a series in Houston during

489
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Speaker 1: the time. This is while there's games going on. The

490
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 1: city of Houston and the Mets is bad juju.

491
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 3: They don't mix well, and there's some rivalry there because

492
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 3: these were two of the best teams in baseball. They

493
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 3: both went over I think one hundred and five games

494
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,360
Speaker 3: in this season like that was pretty shocking for two

495
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 3: teams in the same league to do that.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they literally just I mean, this was a

497
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,679
Speaker 1: party team. And I watched a little bit of One

498
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 1: Spot of Time in Queens already and they show a

499
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Speaker 1: little bit of this stuff and they talk about it,

500
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 1: not as in depth as we just did, because I

501
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 1: don't think ESPN could air it, but they talked a

502
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Speaker 1: lot about what happened and that just this Mets team

503
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,640
Speaker 1: was living on cloud nine. They felt untouchable, They felt

504
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,919
Speaker 1: they could do no wrong, and they were treated like kings.

505
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 1: And when you are, I would mess up a plane too,

506
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure if I want a big series like that.

507
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 2: And these guys were also.

508
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 3: Used to partying in New York like Keith Darryld. These

509
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 3: guys Ronnie, they went out on a nightly basis to

510
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 3: the best clubs in America at the time, probably even

511
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 3: in the world, and went crazy and they played seven

512
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Speaker 3: the next day.

513
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Speaker 2: Seven You can sleep that off.

514
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 1: That tz you literally, Like in the one sponn Tim Queens,

515
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 1: they show you these guys out and they're getting taken

516
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 1: pictures of as if they're Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt.

517
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 1: Like the news on them being out. People you wanted

518
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: to go where the Mets were gonna be because that's

519
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 1: what the party was.

520
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 2: That's the biggest party in the city.

521
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 1: Yep, and uh it worked out. Now, as the years

522
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: went on, these players things went bad. Things went bad

523
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 1: as they do for people who are you know, using

524
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: copious amounts of cocaine and stuff. But the time they worked,

525
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: and the Mets they had fun and they won and

526
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: they could.

527
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 2: When you win, you can do whatever you want.

528
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: And the fact that they at least won one is

529
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 3: meaningful because this team, probably the court they had, should

530
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 3: have won a collection of championships, at least a collection

531
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 3: of pennis. The only time they ever even got close

532
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 3: again was nineteen eighty eight, and they blew that series

533
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 3: against the Dodgers. Eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, eighty

534
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 3: eight goes down. Is the era that could have been

535
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Speaker 3: for the Mets. And while they did get one and

536
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 3: that's good, it seems like probably some of the things

537
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 3: they were doing.

538
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 2: Outside of baseball hurt their ability to get more.

539
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course we now know that was the glory days. Yeah,

540
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of ugly stuff. But four and

541
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: after and I think we're gonna talk about a little

542
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 1: bit some guys that the Mets have missed out on

543
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: and the reasoning why, Because we know about all the

544
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: guys that have come to the Mets and have underperformed,

545
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: but there are also guys who the Mets didn't even

546
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: take on their team or got rid of, and they

547
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: just got infinitely better. And I know you're gonna start

548
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: off with a pretty big one here and a guy

549
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: that didn't go after Well, I.

550
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: Think first maybe we should go through the list. Then

551
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: well then I'll hit that one at the end. Okay,

552
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 3: Because one guy on that nineteen eighty six Mets team

553
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 3: they gave up on too soon was Kevin Mitchell, and

554
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: the Mets gave up on Kevin Mitchell, who went on

555
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 3: to have a pretty good career with a couple of

556
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 3: different National League teams, won an MVP with the Giants,

557
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 3: having some incredible seasons at in San Francisco.

558
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: The Mets, for some.

559
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 3: Reason got the idea in their head that he himself

560
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 3: was the bad influence on Darryl Strawberry and Dot goodin

561
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: simply by generalizing him based on race and where he

562
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 3: grew up.

563
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Speaker 1: Well, I was about to say this was a real

564
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: problem in eighty six because George Foster was a part

565
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: of the eighty six team and the Mets cut him

566
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Speaker 1: out of nowhere after he was their big signing that

567
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: they gave all this money to, and he played the

568
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: card that he felt like it was because of race, and.

569
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Speaker 2: That was racially motivated.

570
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Speaker 1: And the guy who took over a spot was Kevin Mitchell,

571
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: and it was almost like the Mets tried to do

572
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: that will replace like one African American guy with another,

573
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: and then they got rid of him pretty quickly soon after.

574
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Speaker 1: And Kevin Mitchell has always said that he was like

575
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 1: a straight laced guy, like he grew up in like

576
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: in a rough area and he knew I think it

577
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: was southern California, I believe, Yeah, like similar to Darrel's.

578
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: He was a brawler, yeah, but he was still never

579
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: like did any extrickulers, Like he was not much of

580
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: a drinker, never apparently never did any drugs. And that's

581
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Speaker 1: why I quote from Wally Becken was meaningful because he

582
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: said everybody was partying on that plane. There were a

583
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Speaker 1: lot of guys who probably always shy away, guy like

584
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: Gary Carter, guy like guys like Kevin Mitchell.

585
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: This wasn't everyone party. That's why thinks that crazy.

586
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: But the Mets gave up on a guy after one year,

587
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 3: a great year, because they for some reason had an

588
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 3: idea in their heads that he was disrupting two people

589
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 3: on their team who could not have been bigger disruptions

590
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: and Doc and another guy they facing this year. He

591
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: touched on Nolan Ryan. The Mets gave up on him

592
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 3: incredibly too soon. He couldn't throw strikes, and Era with

593
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: strike throwing was by far the most important thing that

594
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: pitchers could ever do, even though he threw like one

595
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: hundred miles an hour when no one even cracked ninety three,

596
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: and he went on to be one of the most

597
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: successful pitchers decorated pitchers in the history of the game.

598
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just immediately got better as he left the Mets.

599
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: And then guy have another guy who immediately got better

600
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: as left the Mets, And this is more modern now

601
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: Justin Turner. I mean, I don't kick the Mets or

602
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: myself over this one at all, and I think we

603
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: talked about earlier.

604
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: You don't either.

605
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: A lot of Mets fans like to point and laugh

606
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: at this one, like I can't believe he gave up

607
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: on Justin Turner, But to be fair, he was pretty horrible.

608
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: With the Mets who saw this one coming.

609
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 3: But it's just you don't hear about these stories as

610
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 3: much from other teams. No, other teams don't give up

611
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 3: guys who are barely major leaguers or are struggling as

612
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: like young pitchers, and they become the best players in baseball.

613
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Speaker 2: I guess sometimes it happens.

614
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: I think Morris, which arguably are Mets West. You could

615
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: think of like Michael Morrise, Chris Taylor, Adam Jones.

616
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Speaker 3: Morris, I mean a couple of good years, but not

617
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: like the Acelona guys were talking about. I mean, the

618
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: Pirates are a team that you could probably say modern

619
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Speaker 3: day something similar happens to with just the fact of

620
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 3: Cole and Musgrove. Yeah, you know, and Tyan almost didn't

621
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: Medos and Glass. Now that's a big one too, But

622
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: that's more minorly, that's more just being stupid. From a

623
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: trading standpoint, the metsive traded probably tons of minor leagues.

624
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: Yah. Yeah, we're not evenking about it.

625
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 3: We're talking about guy who actu had major league reps

626
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: with the Mets that left and went on to do

627
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: incredible things, varying degrees of great things. We're looking at

628
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: an MVP here, one of the most decorated pitchers of

629
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 3: all time, most no hitters of all time, multiple Cy

630
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: Young Awards, Hall of Famer, and one of the greatest

631
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: postseason hitters in the history of the sport.

632
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Speaker 1: And been a top ten third baseman since he's left

633
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: the Mets. And this took eight seconds to think of. Yeah,

634
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: we didn't even go through the anals of history for

635
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: those three names.

636
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: We just didn't want to do it to ourselves. No, no,

637
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: we already did that with the Mets.

638
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: But then I do have another story I want to

639
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: share about a guy who the Mets had a chance

640
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 3: to get who didn't, who wound up being an all

641
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 3: time great, and that was Reggie Jackson. The Mets were

642
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: far and away the worst team in baseball for the

643
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 3: first three four or five years of their existence, from

644
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty two onward, basically until they got good suddenly

645
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: hidden the late sixties.

646
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: And they had a.

647
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: Number one pick in nineteen sixty six, and that when

648
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson was leaving Arizona State looking to become major

649
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: League baseball player. But he was a number one prospect

650
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: along with a Southern California left handed hitting catcher and

651
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 3: named Steve Chilcott. I don't think anybody's out there ever

652
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: heard of Steve.

653
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: Chilcop unless you Mets fans actually lived during the sixties.

654
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe we took Steve.

655
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: Chilcott, Mets fan, your uncle talks about Steve Chilcott, which

656
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: mine does on occasion. I think he's gonna listen to this,

657
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: Uncle Loo, you told me about Steve Cholcott for the

658
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: first time years and years ago. But the Mets did

659
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: wind up taking Chilcott first overall because they said catching

660
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 3: was their greatest need. Casey Stegele, who had transitioned from

661
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: being a head coach one of the Mets top scouts.

662
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: After that, he just realized he didn won to coach

663
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 3: a team of pure amateurs, being one of the most

664
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: sucessful baseball coaches of all time, said afterwards that there

665
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: would have been a lot of pass balls that the

666
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: Mets did not draft a catcher, and that ended up

667
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: being irrelevant because Steve Chilcott never even played a single

668
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 3: game at the major league level, not just with the

669
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: Mets but with anybody. That his first season in pro

670
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: ball after being drafted, he hit under two hundred and

671
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: then well the next year he started being okay. He

672
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 3: separated the shoulder in midway through the season and was

673
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: literally never the same again. He never hit a lick.

674
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: He had to transition off of catcher play first base.

675
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: The whole thing ended up being a complete disaster, while

676
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson wound up being a Hall of Fame player,

677
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: led the A's to a three peat in the mid seventies.

678
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: The Mets might playing against him the seventy three World Series,

679
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: and then he ended up going to the Yankees and

680
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: winning two more.

681
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: Mister October as other people would like to call him

682
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: one of the best homer hitters of all time.

683
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then theoretically, if you would think about the

684
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: team as bad as the Mets, you would want to

685
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: take a little bit less of a risk on a

686
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: number one overall pick. Maybe take the college bat who

687
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: basically can't fail, rather than shoot for the moon with

688
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 3: a high school catcher.

689
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: Catching in the nineteen sixties high school level.

690
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: Johnny Bench was drafted in the nineteen sixties out of

691
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: high school. But he's a homer and like the greatest

692
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: catcher of Walton, Yeah, I think, But that also I

693
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: think was the second he was now the first round pick,

694
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: Johnny Bench, if I remember that correctly. And the A's

695
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 3: general manager afterwards said that Reggie Jackson would have been

696
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: one hundred percent their choice with number one, that it

697
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: would have been close, but he basically said without saying,

698
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: are between the lines like this was our guy through

699
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: and through, and he was basically a little bit surprised

700
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: that the Mets, the team that was really needed to

701
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 3: grasp onto something, really needing a star. So before Tom

702
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: Seewars on the team, he was actually drafted, I believe

703
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: for the first time in nineteen sixty six, maybe sixty five.

704
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: Around this era, they really need the start. They needed

705
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: someone for fans to catch on to a team that

706
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: was probably looking like they could have been like stuck

707
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: in mediocrity for a while.

708
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 2: But then god, they got off the hump at sixty nine.

709
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: And then Jackson dropped a bombshell in his book that

710
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: came out about ten years ago that the Mets didn't

711
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: take him for racially motivated reasons. And there is kind

712
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: of creedence to say that, because the mid sixties baseball

713
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: is still a very conservative, straight lay sport. While the

714
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: color barry hadn't be broken for every team by that time,

715
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: it hadn't been broken that recently by teams like the

716
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: Yankees and the Red Sox within a decade, and it

717
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: still wasn't like that many African American players around baseball,

718
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: and more specifically apparently the Mets did not want to

719
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 3: take a shot on Jackson was because he had made

720
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: the habit of dating outside of his race.

721
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: And I believe this is also one of the reasons

722
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: why Leon Jones and the Mets had issues too, was

723
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: that Cleon Jones was apparently dating out of his race

724
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: and that was a possible issue.

725
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 2: He was also being adulterous.

726
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: Okay that too, yes, But the Mets also made Kleon

727
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: Jones like sit there for a press conference with his

728
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 3: wife after he was caught like in a car and

729
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: got arrested for indecent exposure and an offseason or something

730
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: like that.

731
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: But I don't think the race of that.

732
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: Woman was ever known, but I think maybe it's been

733
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: assumed that that was what happened. They literally made him

734
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: sit there for an interview and then he actually ended

735
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: up having a couple outbursts that year. Is one of

736
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: the most beloved Mets in the history of the franchise

737
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: at that point. Him and Yogi Berra got into it.

738
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: Who was a manager in the early seventies, and Yogi

739
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: Berra ended up telling management that was either him or

740
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: Cleon Jones, and the Mets cut loose Cleon Jones after that,

741
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: So there was some weird race things happening with the Mets.

742
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: And also Reggie Jackson had data white women the past publicly,

743
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 3: and this time he was dating a Mexican living in Arizona,

744
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: going in Arizona State, and he was always very perplexed

745
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: by this because.

746
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: He himself was half Puerto Rican.

747
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he was like, I don't know why you

748
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: think I'm dating outside of my race, like I have

749
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: two races.

750
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: And Mets were like, no, no, no, we've seen you.

751
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: You're black.

752
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: You're dating outside of your race, because that's what it

753
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: looks like. No nuance involved in that discussion at all.

754
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: And this is a lot of hearsay because this is

755
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: something that Reggie Jackson said, one of his coaches that

756
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: Arizona State told him.

757
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: It's been denied by.

758
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: Everybody else who's ever been brought up to But also

759
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: like Casey Stangel, who's the Mets head scout, never once

760
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: once went to go scout Reggie Jackson in person, which

761
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: is crazy, which is great and by far the best

762
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: college player in the country, and that is corroborated and

763
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: that's proved.

764
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Anyone wants also read more about this.

765
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: There's a great article in the Hardball times about it,

766
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: which is fangrass is like editorial sister, everyone looked it up.

767
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: But a big point here is that the mester All

768
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: manager at the time, George Weiss, had a checkered racial pass.

769
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: He was a long time Yankees general manager through the fifties,

770
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: a time when the Yankees were reluctant still to break

771
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: the color barrier decades a decade more than a decade

772
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: after the Dodgers had with Jackie Robinson. There were tons

773
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: of black players around baseball, very successful like Robinson, Larry

774
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: Doby name a few. He had always mentioned that he

775
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: wanted the right player to break the Yankees color barrier

776
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: because they were such a storied franchise, which sounds so roal.

777
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: That is such a disgusting sentence to even say. And

778
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: the Yankees were also the third last team to break

779
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: the color barrier, which almost seems like that's shocking in

780
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: the himself. They weren't the last or second to last,

781
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: but with the Red Sox.

782
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: But all Weiss really ever met was that he wanted.

783
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: Someone reserved to break the color barrier, not someone who

784
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: was a good enough player, Because the Yankees had a

785
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: player named Vic Power in their minor league system through

786
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: the fifties, and this guy was a legitimate stud.

787
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: He wasn't even black.

788
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: He was native Puerto Rican, but again he appeared black,

789
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: so the American populist and the straight lace conservatives saw

790
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: him as black. In the mid fifties, he spent back

791
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: to back seasons in TRIPAA as a twenty four and

792
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: twenty five year old, hitting three thirty and then three

793
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: fifty with power. And George Wise always said that he

794
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: was kept down for defense. But Big Power was actually

795
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: an incredible defender. And while he did never make his

796
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: debut with the Yankees, they traded him before and in

797
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: the offseason after he hit three fifty for pennies on

798
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: the dollar. He won seven goal gloves his major league career,

799
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: and six in a row. And then if you look

800
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: into a little bit deeper power being a native to

801
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico, where segregation wasn't really as normal as a thing,

802
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: he openly went to clubs with his white teammates, He

803
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: openly stayed in white only hotels, he openly dated white woman,

804
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: and he was openly defied segregation very publicly.

805
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: And this was not something of the Yankees were going

806
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: to tolerate. At the time.

807
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: So again, the same GM who did not draft Reggie Jackson,

808
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: George Wise traded Power for pennies. He ended up having

809
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: a pretty okay career, and bottom line, it just seems

810
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: like this old line conservative guy saw a couple of

811
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: reasons not to draft Reggie Jackson for reasons that were

812
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: nothing to do with playing baseball, and that is just

813
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: such a disappointing thing for the Mets franchise history.

814
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we would hope now that the you know,

815
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: the thing that people that he'll let people die and

816
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: is like, you know, hey, they beat their wife, they shouldn't.

817
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: Be on the team.

818
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: Then it was like, well he dated a white woman.

819
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: He dated a white woman. I don't know about.

820
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: That side of his race.

821
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: It's crazy that that was the one that they could

822
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: have looked past.

823
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: Definitely, And also just because at this time baseball was

824
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: just so much more conservative, because baseball was always like

825
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: an old money sport back in like the twenties, thirties, forties.

826
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: These are a lot of guys who still had these

827
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: jobs in the sixties, and baseball itself in America was

828
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: more so played in small southern towns because that's where

829
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: the weather permitted. So even a team like the New

830
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: York Mets, so you would think would be like they

831
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: First of all, they became a team in the sixties,

832
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: they were in a place like New York was relatively

833
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: more liberal in other places in the country. You would

834
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: think that they would have been a little bit more

835
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: on top of issues like this.

836
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: But really they were just as dilute as everybody else

837
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: in the sport.

838
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: Yep.

839
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: And uh cost them getting one of the best players

840
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: in this.

841
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: Game probably and probably caused the metsag shot of the

842
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: dynasty between the late sixties and early seventies.

843
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: Yep.

844
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: And the rest is history.

845
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about someone that they missed out on again,

846
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: not not for racial reasons by any means. Now we're

847
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: we're done with that conversation here, but we'll talk about

848
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: a player that the metsmist from sheer I guess, ignorance

849
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: from sheer stupidity, and.

850
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: That's Alex Rodriguez.

851
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: Now, say what you want about a rod I think,

852
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: at least to me, he is one of the ten

853
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: greatest players to ever step on a baseball field.

854
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: I would even say five.

855
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just was able to do stuff pre steroids

856
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: with steroids, whatever you want to say. When he was

857
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: in Seattle, he was unbelievable. Kind of like Bonds in Pittsburgh.

858
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: They were doing stuff before the steroids that players were

859
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: not able to accomplish before.

860
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: We'll say though, that there's been some report that a

861
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: Rod was taking steroids even through his youth. Oh okay,

862
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: all right, well regardless, yeah, even if it takes steroids,

863
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: doesn't make you a better baseball player. Still got to

864
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: do the job, and he was, and he was considered

865
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: to be the best player, one of the best players in.

866
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: Baseball at the time, especially at the short stop position.

867
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: Two thousand and one free agent, he was looking to

868
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: go somewhere. A Rod grew up in Miami, and.

869
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: Oh, what do you know.

870
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: He grew up a huge friggin Mets fan. And all

871
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: a Rod wanted to do was be like Keith Hernandez

872
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: and play for the New York Mets and put on

873
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: the Orange and blue. He said in the two thousand

874
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: and one offseason he wanted to be a Met. And

875
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: this is all coming now later on. We find this

876
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: out later when he's doing his Sunday night baseball broadcasts,

877
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: But he said he would have made huge sacrifices to

878
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: play for the Mets.

879
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: This is one of the guys who's.

880
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: Considered to probably be one of the most greedy players

881
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball history outside of Barry Bonds, and

882
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: he would have made sacrifices to play for the Mets

883
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one. Imagine him going next to

884
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Piazza in that lineup.

885
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I even believe it.

886
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: We had Ray Ordonia's playing short stop ad a Rod,

887
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: But basically it came down to this, is that a

888
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 4: Rod wants to be a Met, but the Mets never

889
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: really came to him. That's the brass tacks of his

890
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 4: all is that Steve Phillips and the Mets felt that

891
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: there were bigger issues outside of this New York Mets

892
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: team than signing a guy like a Rod. Steve Phillips himself,

893
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: who you know as a GM, is a BADGM and

894
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: also a ship bag.

895
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, not great.

896
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: Dude said it would be hard to win with all

897
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: that money dedicated to a Rod, which to me sounds

898
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: just absolutely insane because the Mariners were winning quite a

899
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: few games with a Rod. I know that Ken Griffy too,

900
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: but we had Piazza, We had a good team. So

901
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: it's not like the Mets were horrible surrounded by a

902
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Rod if they got him.

903
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: Can I say something really funny?

904
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

905
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: Brought up to comparison between who the Mets shortstop was

906
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: and who the Mets shortop could have been. Between Rayrodonias

907
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: and Arod in two thousand, a Rod hit forty homers,

908
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: one hundred thirty RBIs three fifteen four to twenty six

909
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: six slash and a one sixty three ops plus. Take

910
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: a guess at what ray ardoniaz ops plus was in

911
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: two thousand any yes, a.

912
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: Number forty five. You are remarkably close. Yet you over

913
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: sold thirty two. Oh my god, he missed a lot

914
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: that year with injury.

915
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: Ar Donias, you want to play forty five games? The

916
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: canting stats probably hurd at ops plus. But he was

917
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: a guy who sat in the forties, fifties and sixties

918
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: for the ballk of his career.

919
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I bet you a Rod's one

920
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: year there was better than Rarerodonias's retire career offensively.

921
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: Oh, probably as many RBIs When two eighty sex two,

922
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: Raydonius had two hundred and eighty seven RBIs in nine years.

923
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So that was basically two years for a Rod.

924
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: If you combine a Rod's ninety nine. If you guys,

925
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: if you combine two thousand and one two thousand and two,

926
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: you're right up to it.

927
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: You're you're at two seventy seven. It's unbelievable. So yeah,

928
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: he didn't work out.

929
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: There was also rumors that Boris, who was his a

930
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: and this was when Boris was really starting to get

931
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, his chops a little bit. He was really

932
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: starting to push the butt or push the you know,

933
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: envelope a little bit. He said that if Aroon were

934
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: to have signed with the Mets, there was a lot

935
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: of perks that were gonna be included, which was a

936
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: Shae Stadium office. I don't know if that's for a

937
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: Rod or if it's for Scott Boris, but someone was

938
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: getting in office. He wants a marketing staff, which actually

939
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: way ahead of his times. That's like stuff that all

940
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: players should be trying to get now, merchandise tent at

941
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: spring training, a luxury box, just an entirely luxury box

942
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: for them, a private jet as well, and several billboards,

943
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: which I think is so funny because of how advertising

944
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: was done back in the day. But Basically, Arod would

945
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: have come to the Mets if they just even gave

946
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: him the slightest chance. And the Mets didn't even look

947
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: at him. They said, too much money. How could we

948
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: compete with Alex Rodriguez on our team? What would we

949
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: ever do?

950
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: And these are all things that again, like you mentioned,

951
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: most teams do this now organically, just not the private

952
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: jet whatever. But you signed the best player in baseball,

953
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: there better be a lot of billboards. You have the

954
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: best player in baseball. You should be focusing all of

955
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: your marketing campaigns on player, something the Angels have lacked

956
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 3: for a very long time. With the two best players

957
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: in baseball. This was just a guy who's ahead of

958
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: his time. And these are probably things in the long run,

959
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: would have made the Wilpons more money and they ever

960
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: could have imagined, especially the way their finances were going

961
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 3: at the time with other bad actors.

962
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that in three minutes.

963
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the Wilpons just quite simply are some of

964
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: the dumbest people. And you know, maybe Fred's a little

965
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: smarter because he did make all the money.

966
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: Let's go out. He did something, he was right. He

967
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: commuted Fred accomplished.

968
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff was born into the family nepotism at its finest,

969
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: and that dude literally couldn't have made money. Feels right

970
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: in front of his face. He wouldn't know what money

971
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: looked like. He has no clue. He's a more run

972
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: Which now leads us into a little bit more money

973
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: talk here with the Wilbonds, because I mean, we can't

974
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: talk about the Mets without being getting caught up in

975
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: what is the biggest American Ponzi scheme ever?

976
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, sixty five billion dollars and losses I think total

977
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: or total money made or whatever. That was a number

978
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: that was planned on top of that, and just the

979
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: Mets for years were kind of like, I don't even

980
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: know what the word is here.

981
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: It's just fugezy in hoots.

982
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Bernie made off apparently based on the fact

983
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: that they were ordained by a court to have to

984
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: pay a settlement to the people who lost money. The

985
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: Mets ended up when the when the Ponzi scheme ended

986
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: up coming down, the Mets were on the hook for

987
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: I believe one hundred and sixty million dollars that they

988
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 3: ended up through legal proceedings got whittled down to around

989
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: forty five by the one it was all sent down,

990
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: I think, possibly even twenty three, after like a long,

991
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: long legal proceeding. But these Mets owners, who we've always

992
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: chastised being dirt bags all time, were actually dirt bags

993
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: on a molecular level stealing money from American people for

994
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: decades at the time.

995
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like.

996
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: They've never been proven to have been directly involved, but

997
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: it seemed like, at least on the outside looking in,

998
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: that the Wolpons knew that there was a way to

999
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: make money easily, and that the way to do that

1000
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: was with Bernie made off. And it might be for

1001
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: reasons you don't like, but we're not gonna ask questions now.

1002
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: We're not gonna ask how you're doing it. We're just

1003
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna accept that there's more and more money coming into

1004
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: our accounts every single day.

1005
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: This looks pretty good.

1006
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: And there's even a quote from an ne York Times

1007
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 3: article literally from twenty eleven, right when the Bernie Mayo

1008
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: thing went absolutely haywire and everyone realized what was happening.

1009
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: Bernie was part of the business plan for the Mets.

1010
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: That's from an anonymous former club employee, Fred and Bernie

1011
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: were good friends. They're part of the same country club.

1012
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: Their kids were friends, they burn There's a lot of

1013
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: pictures of Bernie in the nineties being on the field

1014
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: that Shay Stadium, taking pictures the players and executives and whatnot.

1015
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: These two were very much intermingled the entire time. I

1016
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of pop culture used as the

1017
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: Mets fall out from Bernie Mayos is that they were victims.

1018
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: It's more likely than not that the Mets benefiting.

1019
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's more than reasonable. You can't really find reasonable

1020
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: doubt that the Mets were not at all aware anything

1021
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 3: that was happening. If they weren't aware, they're even stupider

1022
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: than we ever could have realized.

1023
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are truly actual morons.

1024
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: It's like a Paterno Sandusky thing, very very similar.

1025
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, they got caught up in that, lost a

1026
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: lot of money, lost a lot of money.

1027
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: It's because they got caught.

1028
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: And probably a big reason when we flipped this around

1029
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: why the Mets ended up having to sell was because

1030
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: they run the hook for such a large settlement, paying

1031
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: millions and millions of dollars a year that they probably

1032
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 3: didn't work into their very very tight budget.

1033
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: That's probably big reading. Steve Cohen even owns this team now,

1034
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: and it's.

1035
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: A huge reason why I think Fred Wilpon the reason

1036
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: why they ended up making that decision to sell again

1037
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: to Cohen, because if you guys, remember Cohen bought the team,

1038
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: he had it, and then the Wilpons like went back

1039
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: on it and said, you know, actually we're not going to

1040
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: do that. But then I think Fred saw how Jeff

1041
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: ran this team and ran the organization, goes, oh my god,

1042
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: my family's fortune is going to be runn into the

1043
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: ground because you were an actual imbecile. You're an idiot,

1044
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: you're a moron, and he was like, we gotta sell

1045
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: this and he lost a billion dollars on the sale,

1046
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: which is music to my years. I just love to

1047
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: hear that a billionaire has less money. Even though he

1048
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: still got a billion dollars, he still got two so

1049
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: he still got a couple, but he did lose out

1050
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: on some money, which is always always a win in

1051
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: my books.

1052
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: Definitely, And we're even just we've got forty minutes now

1053
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: talking about random tidbits of Mets history. We have so

1054
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: many more that we can run through. We told you

1055
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: three or four large anecdotes here, but just talking about

1056
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: the fact that the Mets have had two players disappear

1057
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: only in the last seven years. And again I think

1058
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: disappears in quotations too, because we ended up finding out

1059
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: they knew very well what was going on about hours later.

1060
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: Same but to Harvey, we showed up very soon that

1061
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: they were hip pieces.

1062
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: Yes, they were hip pieces that they got to the

1063
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: news before you could actually find out the proper information

1064
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: and make those guys look terror.

1065
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: Matt Harvey was just dealing literally with sad boy hours.

1066
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: Andre with a breakup was Andrea Andre and a Lima

1067
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: or whatever his girlfriend at the time was just like

1068
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: we're done.

1069
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think she ended up having sex with Wes Welker. Yeah,

1070
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: that was it. Eedelman, one of them. She's she's smoke, she's.

1071
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 1: A model, and she's got her pick of the litter

1072
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: from whatever she wants.

1073
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: And she didn't pick Matt Harvey that day.

1074
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, which and then that made them very sad, which

1075
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: I would understand being sad, but I would not understand

1076
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: not telling your team that you're just not going to

1077
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 3: show up to a game.

1078
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1079
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: And then Cesspees of course went home for COVID and

1080
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: the Mets basically were like he's we don't know where

1081
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: he is. We can't find him, like they know where

1082
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: he was he left.

1083
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: I remember watching it that day being like, I'm kind

1084
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 3: of worried about you went a cesspinus.

1085
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like with the Cuban connection, like yes, we know

1086
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: what the you know yao stuff, Like there's dudes that

1087
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: are out there looking for these guys possibly, yeah, and

1088
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: you can just sesspa His story with the Mets in general,

1089
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: the fact that they got him in a trade after

1090
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: another trade was reversed. They had a trade for a

1091
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: different outfield and it ended up not happening. They ended

1092
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: up getting ssessedent this with like three minutes to go

1093
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: to the deadline, traded a time a pretty significant prospect,

1094
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: and Michael falmoer to get him for what was just

1095
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: a rental. He goes out to have a second half

1096
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: that literally got him MVP votes in National League.

1097
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: Played only half the year in the league.

1098
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: He played like fifty games, propelled them to a World Series,

1099
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: signed the massive contract, and then Jess went completely down

1100
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: the tubes.

1101
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he had He even had a good I

1102
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: think year after that, still battling some injuries and stuff,

1103
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: and that was always the big thing with him was

1104
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: the injuries. But the wild boar incident, Yeah, I fell

1105
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: off a horse and then you end up finding out

1106
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: that he was chasing after a wild boar a hole

1107
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: in a hole, which I believe. I think that's actually true.

1108
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: I think the boardman have actually got the ankle.

1109
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: That's also possible. He never saw pictures of the ankles.

1110
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: So those bores are low to the ground, they have

1111
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: really good leverage.

1112
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: And like when he did play, he made an impact,

1113
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: he just didn't do it a lot. And it was

1114
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: like classic Mets. We thought that we got this savior

1115
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: and he wanted to be a Met again. It was like,

1116
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy's staying here after what he

1117
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: could have gotten huge money and then just never really

1118
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: panned out. Like that was stunk, and then we want

1119
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: to talk about other things that's stunk not panning out.

1120
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: David Wright, I mean, we get gifted a guy who

1121
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: is a possible Hall of Fame third baseman. He was

1122
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: on the track to be one of the best third

1123
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: basement of all time. Offensively, defensively, he did it all.

1124
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: He was a clean guy.

1125
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: He was our Derek Jeter. He loved the Mets. He

1126
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: was our Derek Jeter, and he was great.

1127
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: And then City Field comes along and he kind of

1128
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: messed with this head a little bit offensively, and they

1129
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: gets spinal stenosis, he gets concussions.

1130
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: He ends his career early.

1131
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: No one saw this coming and like you couldn't even

1132
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: see what, honestly is one of the greatest bets of

1133
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: all time really live up to his full potential.

1134
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: Can we talk about the four years that David Wright

1135
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: has first four full seasons the Major League between two

1136
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 3: thousand and five and eight.

1137
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.

1138
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: Over those four seasons, David Wright six hundred and thirty games,

1139
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixteen homers, and was worth twenty five

1140
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: wins above replacement in four years. That's a discussing number.

1141
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: He had back to back seasons two thousand and seven

1142
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: and two thousand and eight where he was worth eight

1143
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: point four war and seven point zero war.

1144
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: No, you never CNA in the war number, and David

1145
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: Wright did it. Yeah, David Right was as a twenty

1146
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: four year old so sick. He was so sick, we

1147
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: just didn't get any guys.

1148
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 3: An MVP stolen from him for by Jimmy Robins because

1149
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: the Mets fucking blew the division title with seventeen games

1150
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: to go.

1151
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

1152
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy Rollins, by the way, getting Hall of Fame votes

1153
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: is as I think he got like one.

1154
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: No, he's got like six. Whoever votes for Jimmy Rollins

1155
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame, he should lose your credentials.

1156
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have even been in the top five MVP

1157
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: voted that year.

1158
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: Jimmy Rollins is not even a top maybe's top five

1159
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: shortstop shorts up to the bad position. But that he

1160
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 3: wasn't even never a top five player in baseball.

1161
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: No, he was very good. He has some good years.

1162
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: He went thirty thirty, He played good defense, he hit

1163
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: it on top of good order. That one did win

1164
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: a fucking World Series.

1165
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: God, but Jimmy, you can tell the story of baseball

1166
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: without even mentioning Jimmy Rollins.

1167
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: You don't even have to hear about Jimmy Rounds. I

1168
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: hate Jimmy Rollins.

1169
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: And then I guess let's just keep going on, to

1170
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: keep harping on the two thousand Mets before we talk

1171
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: about the nineties. Guys, we just could keep going down

1172
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: our list with everyone. Let's go down our list. Let's

1173
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: talk about the nineties Mets, because the ninety three season

1174
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: was something of chaos, absolute chaos. Vince Coleman lit a firecracker,

1175
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: threw it into the rout injuring three people. He throw

1176
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: a firecracker into the stands at Chase Stadium.

1177
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: What Vince Colmo was also one of the better players

1178
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: in baseball, came to the Mets.

1179
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: It was just bad. Yeah, off, oh, he was so bad.

1180
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: And then Brett Saberhagen, who was one of the best

1181
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: picturesterally one of the best pitchers.

1182
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: So the Mets wasn't great. We're still paying him to

1183
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 2: this day.

1184
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of want to talk about that because Bobby

1185
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: Bonia gets all the credit for June first, but no

1186
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 3: one realized that Brett saberhiggen's'm basically the exact same deal,

1187
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 3: a couple hundred thousand dollars less per season for again

1188
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: the next ten years.

1189
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 2: Tank.

1190
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: I don't want that to make it to Twitter, so

1191
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: everyone just everyone just seal it, lock it, throw the

1192
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: way Brett Saberhagen, same thing as Bobby.

1193
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: We're all Mets fans listening here. We're behind the same thing.

1194
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, Brett Saberhagen filled the water gun with bleach

1195
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: and shot it at reporters, Which that's unbelievable.

1196
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: My dad told me this. I didn't believe it. I

1197
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: had to go look it up myself.

1198
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy. How about another Mets picture. Let's talk about

1199
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: another guy. K Rod beat the living shit out of

1200
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: his dad in the Mets or father in law in

1201
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: the Mets clubhouse. Was arrested and apparently when reporters asked

1202
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: him about it, he was ready to start taking names

1203
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: and fighting them as well, like what how do you

1204
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: Why is your father in law in the clubhouse and

1205
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: how do you end up brawling with him?

1206
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: That's like Ted Lasso.

1207
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have seen it, but uh,

1208
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: Jamie Tart punches his dad in the face, but it

1209
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: has a real piece of shit in that boy.

1210
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: That was like fake. I don't even know how that happens.

1211
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: It was with Carora, his father in law doing in

1212
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: the clubhouse anyway, I don't know, I don't know. I mean,

1213
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: we got some more you want.

1214
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: To take some, Yeah, we got Jason Vargas and Mickey

1215
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: Callaway trying to fight Tim Healy after how you buys

1216
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: and walk home run off them. Understanding Chicago, Yeah, Tim

1217
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: Healey has been a ship bag, but trying to fight

1218
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: the report there.

1219
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: That's a line that's never been crossed before, not in

1220
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: sports at least.

1221
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it started up the uh Jason Vargas

1222
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: going from like being like the dorky like science teacher

1223
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: to like thinking he's like the big tough guy. Now

1224
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean I like Jason Vargas after that point. Oh

1225
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 1: guy's got a little edgey.

1226
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.

1227
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, my god, Mickey Callaway, that entire era

1228
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: is just we hired a g our gm was an agent, Yes,

1229
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: that's a gam was an agent, and you hire the

1230
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: serial sexual offender.

1231
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable. Worst kept secret in baseball, It's unbelievable.

1232
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: How about another secret that had to be talked about

1233
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: in baseball even though there was nothing to talk about there,

1234
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Mike Piazza, who had rumors of being homosexual for years

1235
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: swirling around him, and.

1236
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 3: There's still never been an openly homosexual player in Major

1237
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: League baseball.

1238
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: No, had a press conference in a random game in

1239
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: May to announce he isn't gay.

1240
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: He had a press conference.

1241
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: They guys, I am in fact, not gay. I have

1242
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: sex with women. It's crazy.

1243
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: How could something that even happen. There's no other organization

1244
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: where that would happen. No ever, who allowed that, Who.

1245
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: Said, yeah, you know, we should go through with this.

1246
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: We should have a press conference with Mike Piazza and

1247
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: to prove he's not gay.

1248
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: This was before the notes app so just be fair. Unbelievable, unbelievable.

1249
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: We talked about the Ponzi scheme.

1250
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: Also the fact that in back to back seasons the

1251
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: Mets have had a general manager and a manager who

1252
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: never made it to the season.

1253
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: With those roles. Nope, Jared Porter gone and Carlos Beltron gones. Unbelievable.

1254
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: Who could do that, not once, but twice.

1255
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: And then just to you know, kind of wrap up

1256
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: all these crazy stories here the most recent one we

1257
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: had the fans boo the players thumps down the fans

1258
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: with the players, and the players bow the fans back. Yeah,

1259
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: that's famous.

1260
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: Jerry Seinfeld being being heckled as a comedian. Well, if

1261
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: I went to your job and heckled you, Yeah, he

1262
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: went to a woman's office and said boom.

1263
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: Like it's just there's there's too many ups and downs

1264
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: with the Mets team. There's too many, There's so much

1265
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: chaos that's always happened with this Mets team. And while

1266
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: we are ushering in this new era of fun Mets,

1267
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: I do think we're still gonna have our fresh share

1268
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: of chaos just because of the microscope that this team

1269
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: has always and will always be put under.

1270
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: And it's New York.

1271
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: It's the biggest, biggest market in all of sports. They're

1272
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: going to get more press than the freaking Kansas City

1273
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: Royals even when the Kansasity Royals win a World Series,

1274
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: especially now because we have the richest owner in all

1275
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: of baseball, the second richest man that ever buy a

1276
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: sports team, and arguably one of the most loud owners

1277
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: yeah sports as well, one of the most vocal and

1278
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: outside Mark Cuban, probably he's probably up there with, you know.

1279
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: Most of Embomber, the richest guy that own a team. Yeah.

1280
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: But you know, there's also been good stuff with the Mets.

1281
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: We've had two miracles the World Series, and pretty much

1282
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: any time we make the playoffs, there's some sort of

1283
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: magic that happens.

1284
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: Nineteen and people always thought about eighty six to sixty nine.

1285
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: Everyone knows the ball went through bucking his legs. Everyone

1286
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: knew you could put a man in the moon before

1287
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: the Mets with win a World Series. But nineteen seventy three,

1288
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: this team was on the last in last place in

1289
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: August thirtieth, and that was when one team made the

1290
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: playoffs in the entire league. It wasn't like you stick

1291
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: it to the wildcard spot three games over five hundred

1292
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: like the goddamn Cardinals. No, you had to win the

1293
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: pennant in the season. And the message went a rough

1294
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: shot all through September and they actually, weirdly enough, my

1295
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: uncle has all the information. Uncle leu shot Uncle who

1296
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: again pick time All Time episode. They had to beat

1297
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 3: the Pirates, the first place Pirates for four games September

1298
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: to even get into a tie for first place.

1299
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: The Mets history story. Being a Mets fan, you sign

1300
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: up for this ride, you know what you're getting involved in,

1301
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: and as much as you know sorrow, it has brought me.

1302
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: When it does pay off, it is one of the

1303
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: best payoffs. It seems like an all of sports. Oh yeah, absolute,

1304
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: we're going to the moon.

1305
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: We are going to the moon in this Mets team.

1306
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: Hopefully it can be the team that maybe is the next.

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Speaker 1: Miracle thing to happen here, although they should be good.

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Speaker 2: Not much of America much a miracle. Good, Yeah, its

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Speaker 2: a miracle for us. We haven't seen anything spressibly a miracle. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The day the Mets win the World series, who that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be as gonna be a fun podcast? The next one,

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Speaker 1: oh man, we do like straight after the parade, just

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Speaker 1: absolutely obliterated. But anyways, guys, we don't have anything else

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. We even have anything to talk

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Speaker 1: about the beginning. We're just telling stories, selling stories for

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Speaker 1: fifty minutes. I hope you enjoyed it. Episode sixty nine

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Speaker 1: nice of the Mets Up podcast. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: listening and watching. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok YouTube

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Speaker 1: mets Up. You'll be able to find us anywhere. Follow

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Speaker 1: James on Twitter at you Your Had No Range, me

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Speaker 1: at Draftnick Mark with a C, drop us a rating,

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Speaker 1: a review, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen.

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Speaker 2: It really does help us grow the podcast. Share it

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Speaker 2: with your friends.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we got some big news coming for you guys

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Speaker 1: in the next few weeks or so that I think

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Speaker 1: you'll be excited to hear if that all works out,

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Speaker 1: and now me and James are gonna go run to

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Speaker 1: a New York Knicks game because.

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Speaker 2: And everybody watched One Time in Queens. For next week, yes,

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Speaker 2: once upon a time.

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Speaker 1: Next week it's gonna be our review or another probably

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Speaker 1: fifty minute episode talking about what happened. If you enjoyed it,

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Speaker 1: thank you, guys. Let us know on Twitter if you

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Speaker 1: like this different kind of episode from us. I think

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Speaker 1: it would be good feedback. Otherwise, that's we're gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: it up.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Thanks for You'll see on the next

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Speaker 2: episode of the That's of the podcast. Peace Out, peace Out, guys,

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Speaker 2: thanks for listening.