1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:21,748 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,508 --> 00:00:24,188 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:24,948 --> 00:00:28,628 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, this is Good Morning Football, presented by Harbor 5 00:00:28,708 --> 00:00:31,508 Speaker 3: Freight lives here in Los Angeles at the home of 6 00:00:31,628 --> 00:00:32,348 Speaker 3: NFL Network. 7 00:00:32,388 --> 00:00:33,228 Speaker 4: I'm Jamie ert All. 8 00:00:33,308 --> 00:00:36,468 Speaker 3: This is akbar Bosby and Mila there, Peter Schrager, there 9 00:00:36,548 --> 00:00:40,188 Speaker 3: is Kyle Brandt. Some people may say that come August 10 00:00:40,188 --> 00:00:42,988 Speaker 3: fourteenth of the preseason, you might hit a bit of 11 00:00:43,028 --> 00:00:45,748 Speaker 3: a training campbell. We might be running out of things 12 00:00:45,748 --> 00:00:49,188 Speaker 3: to talk about. But never is there a better solution 13 00:00:49,268 --> 00:00:51,668 Speaker 3: than somebody putting out a top thirty two list of 14 00:00:51,668 --> 00:00:54,548 Speaker 3: a position in the NFL to solve all of our woes. 15 00:00:54,868 --> 00:00:57,188 Speaker 3: To start the second hour of our show, we want 16 00:00:57,228 --> 00:01:00,068 Speaker 3: to thank Maurice Jones Drew for doing God's work here. 17 00:00:59,908 --> 00:01:04,788 Speaker 4: At the lead block. Mjd all right, MVD. He is 18 00:01:05,108 --> 00:01:06,948 Speaker 4: a fantasy football aficionado. 19 00:01:07,228 --> 00:01:09,868 Speaker 3: If one would call the twenty eleven Rushing Later that 20 00:01:10,628 --> 00:01:14,388 Speaker 3: he ranked the best thirty two RB ones heading into 21 00:01:14,708 --> 00:01:16,508 Speaker 3: the season. I can only think of RB's when I 22 00:01:16,508 --> 00:01:21,308 Speaker 3: say RB one's. Here's just top ten, though, Christian McCaffrey, Derrick, 23 00:01:21,388 --> 00:01:24,548 Speaker 3: Henry Breese Hall, and so on and so forth all 24 00:01:24,548 --> 00:01:26,628 Speaker 3: the way down to Josh Jacobs in a Green Bay 25 00:01:26,668 --> 00:01:30,908 Speaker 3: Packers uniform. Guys, Kyle, what do you make of this list? 26 00:01:30,948 --> 00:01:34,108 Speaker 3: Who is not in the top ten? Who is unceremoniously 27 00:01:34,188 --> 00:01:36,588 Speaker 3: left out? Are you offended by number thirty two? Where 28 00:01:36,628 --> 00:01:37,988 Speaker 3: do you take us first? 29 00:01:38,348 --> 00:01:39,068 Speaker 2: No? No, I got it. 30 00:01:39,668 --> 00:01:42,548 Speaker 5: I respect An MJD's perspective completely. I don't want to 31 00:01:42,588 --> 00:01:44,508 Speaker 5: like nitpick with his taste. I just think it's interesting 32 00:01:44,508 --> 00:01:45,988 Speaker 5: when some of the things shook out. I know a 33 00:01:46,028 --> 00:01:47,428 Speaker 5: lot of people looking at this list will be like 34 00:01:47,508 --> 00:01:50,188 Speaker 5: Kyrin Williams as the number four running back in the league, 35 00:01:50,268 --> 00:01:52,748 Speaker 5: and MJD definitely has a lot of rams bias, which 36 00:01:52,748 --> 00:01:55,308 Speaker 5: he openly admits. He was also Kyraen Williams third in 37 00:01:55,308 --> 00:01:57,148 Speaker 5: the league in rushing last year. He's good, He's going 38 00:01:57,228 --> 00:01:58,828 Speaker 5: to be used a lot. I wouldn't have him at 39 00:01:58,828 --> 00:02:02,028 Speaker 5: a four personally, but I don't think it's crazy. Saquan 40 00:02:02,108 --> 00:02:05,228 Speaker 5: at five, we'll see Saquon I think was hovering around 41 00:02:05,228 --> 00:02:07,828 Speaker 5: the top three. Five is still I think, based a 42 00:02:07,828 --> 00:02:10,188 Speaker 5: lot on reputation what he does when he's healthy. I 43 00:02:10,188 --> 00:02:13,468 Speaker 5: think there's some interesting people like Alvin Kamara is at thirteen. 44 00:02:13,668 --> 00:02:15,628 Speaker 5: Alvin Kamara is just I feel like twenty minutes ago 45 00:02:15,748 --> 00:02:18,708 Speaker 5: was a massive superstar who would be way way up there, 46 00:02:18,708 --> 00:02:20,308 Speaker 5: and it is down at thirteen. But I want to 47 00:02:20,348 --> 00:02:24,348 Speaker 5: talk specifically about two people. Jonathan Taylor at nine. A 48 00:02:24,348 --> 00:02:27,508 Speaker 5: couple of years ago, Jonathan Taylor was one. He was 49 00:02:27,508 --> 00:02:29,628 Speaker 5: better than McCaffrey. He was better than Derrick Henry. 50 00:02:29,628 --> 00:02:31,628 Speaker 2: He was one. He was the best running back in 51 00:02:31,668 --> 00:02:32,228 Speaker 2: the NFL. 52 00:02:32,548 --> 00:02:34,828 Speaker 5: We're at a place with Jonathan Taylor where in this 53 00:02:34,948 --> 00:02:37,348 Speaker 5: season he had three hundred and thirty two carries a 54 00:02:37,348 --> 00:02:39,908 Speaker 5: couple of years ago, and then he's missed thirteen games 55 00:02:39,908 --> 00:02:42,268 Speaker 5: since it hasn't had the burst, and I harken back 56 00:02:42,308 --> 00:02:44,468 Speaker 5: to twenty years ago. We need to have people like 57 00:02:44,548 --> 00:02:46,788 Speaker 5: Larry Johnson on the Chiefs who would have four hundred 58 00:02:46,828 --> 00:02:48,908 Speaker 5: touches in a season and the wheels would come off. 59 00:02:48,948 --> 00:02:50,668 Speaker 5: And I hate that and I don't want that. That 60 00:02:50,708 --> 00:02:53,948 Speaker 5: has to happen for Jonathan Taylor. Great player, great personality. 61 00:02:54,108 --> 00:02:56,148 Speaker 5: Everybody says he's healthy in camp and we're going to 62 00:02:56,188 --> 00:02:58,788 Speaker 5: get the old Jonathan Taylor. I've heard that many times 63 00:02:58,788 --> 00:03:00,148 Speaker 5: about guys, the old ones back. 64 00:03:00,228 --> 00:03:01,148 Speaker 6: I hope it's true. 65 00:03:01,468 --> 00:03:04,228 Speaker 5: But I also think the most interesting omission by far. 66 00:03:05,268 --> 00:03:07,948 Speaker 5: MJD nowhere in his top thirty two has Jalen Warren 67 00:03:07,948 --> 00:03:10,308 Speaker 5: on the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I have a huge beef 68 00:03:10,348 --> 00:03:12,148 Speaker 5: with that because if you watched the Steelers a lot 69 00:03:12,228 --> 00:03:14,388 Speaker 5: last year, One, he was the. 70 00:03:14,308 --> 00:03:15,588 Speaker 2: Best running back on their team. 71 00:03:15,908 --> 00:03:18,788 Speaker 5: Two, no one ran harder than him in the NFL 72 00:03:18,908 --> 00:03:19,468 Speaker 5: last year. 73 00:03:19,628 --> 00:03:22,788 Speaker 2: He was fantastic. He does everything, He catched. 74 00:03:22,628 --> 00:03:25,188 Speaker 5: He blocks, he does everything that MJD respects in an 75 00:03:25,188 --> 00:03:30,308 Speaker 5: all rounded back. But Jalen Warren had crazy, burst, aggression, anger, 76 00:03:30,428 --> 00:03:32,268 Speaker 5: you name it, and I feel in a lot of 77 00:03:32,268 --> 00:03:35,268 Speaker 5: ways for big stretches, carried that offense that was not 78 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:38,468 Speaker 5: very good and still was in the playoffs. Jalen Warren 79 00:03:38,508 --> 00:03:40,468 Speaker 5: I think should be way up. So MJD isn't even 80 00:03:40,468 --> 00:03:43,028 Speaker 5: have on the list. I love number thirty for the Steelers, 81 00:03:43,108 --> 00:03:45,068 Speaker 5: but a fascinating list by MJD. Kyle. 82 00:03:45,108 --> 00:03:48,148 Speaker 3: I want to carry the workload similar to what Jalen 83 00:03:48,188 --> 00:03:50,108 Speaker 3: Warren and Naji Harris have to do in Pittsburgh with 84 00:03:50,148 --> 00:03:51,868 Speaker 3: you about this answer, because last night when the list 85 00:03:51,908 --> 00:03:55,108 Speaker 3: came out and I was inspecting it, Naji Harris at seventeen, 86 00:03:55,228 --> 00:03:58,308 Speaker 3: my first thought was I'd be pissed if I was 87 00:03:58,388 --> 00:04:01,588 Speaker 3: Nagie Harris, I think he's better than seventeen. I also 88 00:04:01,628 --> 00:04:03,548 Speaker 3: think that Jalen Warren deserves to be in the top 89 00:04:03,588 --> 00:04:06,188 Speaker 3: thirty two. And the fact that those two running backs 90 00:04:06,228 --> 00:04:09,268 Speaker 3: I think are misplaced on this list is offensive to 91 00:04:09,308 --> 00:04:11,788 Speaker 3: what the Steelers are going to try to accomplish, especially 92 00:04:11,828 --> 00:04:14,108 Speaker 3: considering the two quarterbacks that they brought in. No matter 93 00:04:14,148 --> 00:04:16,908 Speaker 3: who it is between Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. But 94 00:04:17,148 --> 00:04:20,428 Speaker 3: knowing Naji Harris's personality a little bit that we do, 95 00:04:20,828 --> 00:04:23,268 Speaker 3: I think he sees stuff like this. I think he 96 00:04:23,348 --> 00:04:25,508 Speaker 3: gets mad about stuff like this. I think he's probably 97 00:04:25,508 --> 00:04:27,748 Speaker 3: already ticked off that the team didn't pick up his 98 00:04:27,788 --> 00:04:28,468 Speaker 3: fifth year option. 99 00:04:28,748 --> 00:04:30,308 Speaker 4: I was shocked he was at seventeen. 100 00:04:30,588 --> 00:04:32,628 Speaker 3: I don't think he's the seventeenth best running back in 101 00:04:32,628 --> 00:04:32,988 Speaker 3: the league. 102 00:04:33,028 --> 00:04:34,428 Speaker 4: So the fact I didn't even. 103 00:04:34,348 --> 00:04:36,348 Speaker 3: Dawn on me, I would have assumed Jalen Moore was 104 00:04:36,348 --> 00:04:36,828 Speaker 3: on that list. 105 00:04:36,908 --> 00:04:37,388 Speaker 2: I was more. 106 00:04:37,308 --> 00:04:40,028 Speaker 3: Focused about Naji Harris. But Kyle, you know Naji as well. 107 00:04:40,068 --> 00:04:41,188 Speaker 3: Don't you think this is the kind of thing that 108 00:04:41,228 --> 00:04:42,188 Speaker 3: would get under his skin. 109 00:04:43,908 --> 00:04:44,428 Speaker 2: I don't know. 110 00:04:44,588 --> 00:04:47,308 Speaker 5: He's eccentric and he's unusual. He may laugh at it, 111 00:04:47,388 --> 00:04:49,348 Speaker 5: he may get mad by it. If you do get mad, 112 00:04:49,508 --> 00:04:51,588 Speaker 5: I would say to Naji, break more long runs, like 113 00:04:51,668 --> 00:04:54,348 Speaker 5: it's he knows that it was not a great statistical 114 00:04:54,428 --> 00:04:56,228 Speaker 5: year for him last year, and he wins the anger 115 00:04:56,308 --> 00:04:58,268 Speaker 5: runs and sceptors because he runs some guys over. But 116 00:04:58,308 --> 00:05:00,908 Speaker 5: it's like the yards per carry is low. The burst 117 00:05:00,948 --> 00:05:02,428 Speaker 5: was low for a while, and if you watch the 118 00:05:02,468 --> 00:05:04,668 Speaker 5: Steelers week in week out, number thirty would come in 119 00:05:04,708 --> 00:05:06,668 Speaker 5: as the change of pace guy, and he had more bursts. 120 00:05:06,668 --> 00:05:08,348 Speaker 5: So if Nagi is motivated, I hope so, and he 121 00:05:08,348 --> 00:05:09,228 Speaker 5: should do something about it. 122 00:05:09,348 --> 00:05:11,308 Speaker 7: This is just one man's opinion, but I would say this, 123 00:05:11,348 --> 00:05:13,188 Speaker 7: he's a rushing leader. He was one of the best 124 00:05:13,188 --> 00:05:15,148 Speaker 7: of his era, and like you want to poke holes 125 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:18,428 Speaker 7: in Laurice Jones Drew's list, fine, but do not poke holes. 126 00:05:18,188 --> 00:05:20,068 Speaker 6: In a vantage point. He's one of the great running 127 00:05:20,068 --> 00:05:20,428 Speaker 6: backs of. 128 00:05:20,348 --> 00:05:23,268 Speaker 7: His generation and this is how he sees it. I 129 00:05:23,348 --> 00:05:26,028 Speaker 7: look at that number eight Vjon Robinson, and I can't 130 00:05:26,028 --> 00:05:28,268 Speaker 7: imagine he's not going to be in that top three 131 00:05:28,348 --> 00:05:28,788 Speaker 7: this year. 132 00:05:29,028 --> 00:05:30,588 Speaker 6: I spoke with he's a new. 133 00:05:30,508 --> 00:05:34,788 Speaker 7: Offensive coordinator, Zach Robinson over the offseason for my podcast, 134 00:05:34,828 --> 00:05:37,828 Speaker 7: and he's like, dude, Jon does it all he could 135 00:05:37,828 --> 00:05:38,708 Speaker 7: be wide receiver. 136 00:05:38,428 --> 00:05:40,068 Speaker 6: He could be running back. Talking about him in the 137 00:05:40,068 --> 00:05:40,868 Speaker 6: way that. 138 00:05:40,868 --> 00:05:45,388 Speaker 7: Coaches talk about Christian McCaffrey. The Bijon stuff. We just 139 00:05:45,668 --> 00:05:48,068 Speaker 7: were scratching the surface last year and he had about 140 00:05:48,108 --> 00:05:52,548 Speaker 7: ten incredible highlight plays. Remember, top player out of Texas, 141 00:05:52,748 --> 00:05:55,748 Speaker 7: a top ten pick in the draft, and an individual 142 00:05:55,788 --> 00:05:58,628 Speaker 7: that everyone universally was like, you don't draft running backs 143 00:05:58,668 --> 00:05:59,828 Speaker 7: in the top ten. And then it was like, oh, 144 00:05:59,948 --> 00:06:02,468 Speaker 7: except if it's Jon Robinson. That catch right there, Like 145 00:06:02,708 --> 00:06:05,108 Speaker 7: that is unkenny athletic ability. 146 00:06:05,108 --> 00:06:07,068 Speaker 5: What he could do the legacy of his rookie year 147 00:06:07,588 --> 00:06:09,468 Speaker 5: was that they didn't use him, Like why aren't Bijon 148 00:06:09,508 --> 00:06:10,108 Speaker 5: getting the ball more? 149 00:06:10,148 --> 00:06:11,508 Speaker 2: And they'd scream it all year, and I think they 150 00:06:11,508 --> 00:06:11,828 Speaker 2: were right. 151 00:06:11,868 --> 00:06:13,668 Speaker 7: They were to give them the ball of Tyler Algier, who's 152 00:06:13,668 --> 00:06:16,828 Speaker 7: still there, and they're they're trying other things at Cardary Patterson, 153 00:06:16,908 --> 00:06:19,348 Speaker 7: but like, let's just go to Bjon Robinson. And I 154 00:06:19,388 --> 00:06:21,908 Speaker 7: think Zach Robinson, the new offensive coordinator, is going to 155 00:06:21,988 --> 00:06:22,268 Speaker 7: do that. 156 00:06:22,788 --> 00:06:23,628 Speaker 6: So that's my take. 157 00:06:23,668 --> 00:06:25,548 Speaker 7: I think Vjon ends up this this like if you're 158 00:06:25,548 --> 00:06:27,628 Speaker 7: talking about like who on this list is gonna have 159 00:06:27,708 --> 00:06:30,868 Speaker 7: the biggest jump, But I think it's Vjon. But then 160 00:06:30,868 --> 00:06:34,788 Speaker 7: there's a player who came in at number eighteen on. 161 00:06:34,668 --> 00:06:36,788 Speaker 6: This list that no one anywhere is talking about. 162 00:06:36,828 --> 00:06:39,508 Speaker 7: But I've got some sources in that building and they're like. 163 00:06:40,548 --> 00:06:44,588 Speaker 6: This is our dude, Kenneth Walker. OK, let's go for 164 00:06:44,628 --> 00:06:45,588 Speaker 6: the Seahawks. 165 00:06:45,748 --> 00:06:48,828 Speaker 7: I think is going to be a workhorse in this 166 00:06:48,908 --> 00:06:49,868 Speaker 7: grub offense. 167 00:06:49,908 --> 00:06:52,148 Speaker 6: And here's the interesting connection. 168 00:06:52,628 --> 00:06:55,188 Speaker 7: You know, Kenni Walker his best game as a college 169 00:06:55,228 --> 00:06:58,828 Speaker 7: player ever was when he was at Michigan State and 170 00:06:58,868 --> 00:07:01,308 Speaker 7: he tore up the Michigan Wolverines. Tore him up for 171 00:07:01,348 --> 00:07:04,108 Speaker 7: like two hundred yards beat Michigan. He was an absolute 172 00:07:04,188 --> 00:07:07,268 Speaker 7: mom during that game. The new head coach in the 173 00:07:07,388 --> 00:07:10,868 Speaker 7: NFL for Kenneth Walker is Mike McDonald Do you know 174 00:07:10,868 --> 00:07:13,268 Speaker 7: who the defensive coordinator for Michigan that day. 175 00:07:13,268 --> 00:07:15,508 Speaker 5: Was Mike McDonald It was Mike mcdonaldson. 176 00:07:15,828 --> 00:07:19,748 Speaker 7: He was working for Harbaugh and watched Kenneth Walker just 177 00:07:19,908 --> 00:07:24,028 Speaker 7: absolutely terrorize that Blue defense. 178 00:07:23,628 --> 00:07:24,428 Speaker 3: All day long. 179 00:07:24,868 --> 00:07:26,788 Speaker 7: I think Kenneth Walker, if you look at this offense 180 00:07:26,988 --> 00:07:29,108 Speaker 7: last year, now, they have Sharboney, they have other guys, 181 00:07:29,108 --> 00:07:31,028 Speaker 7: and I know in the preseason debut, we didn't see 182 00:07:31,028 --> 00:07:33,628 Speaker 7: a lot of Kenneth Walker. We saw Sharbonay instead, like 183 00:07:34,268 --> 00:07:37,148 Speaker 7: I wouldn't be shocked if Kenneth Walker's one of those 184 00:07:37,188 --> 00:07:38,828 Speaker 7: top five guys. 185 00:07:39,148 --> 00:07:40,428 Speaker 6: I love this position. 186 00:07:40,588 --> 00:07:42,948 Speaker 7: I love when it comes to fantasy football, this position 187 00:07:42,948 --> 00:07:43,628 Speaker 7: because I think it's the. 188 00:07:43,628 --> 00:07:45,468 Speaker 6: Greatest variable year to year to year. 189 00:07:45,748 --> 00:07:47,188 Speaker 7: So if I'm going to take my shot, I'm going 190 00:07:47,188 --> 00:07:50,188 Speaker 7: with Bijon Robinson and I'm going with Kenneth Walker, two 191 00:07:50,228 --> 00:07:53,268 Speaker 7: guys who are on MJD's list, but I don't think 192 00:07:53,268 --> 00:07:54,708 Speaker 7: are going to be anywhere near where. 193 00:07:54,588 --> 00:07:56,068 Speaker 6: They ended up on the list by the end of 194 00:07:56,068 --> 00:07:56,508 Speaker 6: the season. 195 00:07:56,948 --> 00:08:00,748 Speaker 8: You know, I will go to the number two spot, 196 00:08:00,988 --> 00:08:03,468 Speaker 8: which I thought was very interesting. I respect MJD. I 197 00:08:03,548 --> 00:08:07,468 Speaker 8: absolutely love that he still has the respect for Derrick Henry. 198 00:08:07,668 --> 00:08:08,788 Speaker 2: You know, you guys heard me. 199 00:08:08,788 --> 00:08:11,228 Speaker 8: Talk about the fact that I feel like he is 200 00:08:11,228 --> 00:08:14,908 Speaker 8: Shaquille O'Neill to Kobe Bryant, which is Lamar Jackson. I 201 00:08:14,988 --> 00:08:17,228 Speaker 8: still believe in this combination, and I think we're going 202 00:08:17,268 --> 00:08:19,708 Speaker 8: to get the Los Angeles Lakers Shaquille O'Neil, meaning that 203 00:08:19,748 --> 00:08:22,268 Speaker 8: Derrick Henry has a lot left in him when we 204 00:08:22,268 --> 00:08:24,428 Speaker 8: look at the production he's put out. You know, he 205 00:08:24,668 --> 00:08:26,828 Speaker 8: mentioned something in this where he talked about in the 206 00:08:26,908 --> 00:08:31,508 Speaker 8: last five seasons, the Raven's leading rusher has been a quarterback. 207 00:08:31,748 --> 00:08:33,668 Speaker 8: And so the fact that you now have a bona 208 00:08:33,748 --> 00:08:36,948 Speaker 8: fide runner like a Derrick Henry, the combination of these 209 00:08:36,948 --> 00:08:39,908 Speaker 8: two guys is going to be explosive. I'm telling you 210 00:08:40,428 --> 00:08:43,348 Speaker 8: that AFC North is going to be the UFC North. 211 00:08:43,348 --> 00:08:46,228 Speaker 8: There are going to be some fine dogs in that division. 212 00:08:47,508 --> 00:08:49,988 Speaker 3: It is fun to say a name and put a 213 00:08:50,108 --> 00:08:51,348 Speaker 3: number next to it and be like. 214 00:08:51,308 --> 00:08:54,188 Speaker 4: The audacity, Peter, the audacity. 215 00:08:53,588 --> 00:08:55,948 Speaker 3: Of Isaiah Pacheco having the number twenty next to him. 216 00:08:56,108 --> 00:08:58,668 Speaker 2: Ooh, another one. 217 00:08:58,748 --> 00:09:00,708 Speaker 7: I mean, Jamie, you could pick your guy and like 218 00:09:00,748 --> 00:09:03,388 Speaker 7: in my case, like I look at Pachaco and I'm like, 219 00:09:04,068 --> 00:09:06,148 Speaker 7: he could have a huge season this year and then 220 00:09:06,188 --> 00:09:07,988 Speaker 7: get his third Super Bowl ring. Are we really ranking 221 00:09:08,028 --> 00:09:09,988 Speaker 7: him in the top at the bottom of the top twenty? No, 222 00:09:10,148 --> 00:09:12,388 Speaker 7: Like Potato's that dude. 223 00:09:12,468 --> 00:09:13,188 Speaker 4: He is that dude. 224 00:09:13,228 --> 00:09:16,868 Speaker 3: The other one just considering the potential injury to Tyrone 225 00:09:16,868 --> 00:09:19,188 Speaker 3: Treesy with the Giants yesterday. The fact that Devin motal 226 00:09:19,468 --> 00:09:22,148 Speaker 3: Motor Singletary is thirty two on the list, I mean, it's. 227 00:09:22,028 --> 00:09:22,988 Speaker 4: A great list, MJD. 228 00:09:23,108 --> 00:09:25,188 Speaker 3: And this is why we appreciate you because it gives 229 00:09:25,268 --> 00:09:28,548 Speaker 3: us the topic du jour for the second hour of 230 00:09:28,588 --> 00:09:32,308 Speaker 3: Good Morning Football. Christian McCaffrey finished third in MVB poting 231 00:09:32,708 --> 00:09:35,788 Speaker 3: MVP voting last season, and we haven't had a running 232 00:09:35,828 --> 00:09:40,108 Speaker 3: back as an MVP since twenty twelve version of Adrian Peterson. 233 00:09:40,788 --> 00:09:42,148 Speaker 4: M that was a good year. 234 00:09:43,908 --> 00:09:46,748 Speaker 3: Realistically, could a running back get the award this year? 235 00:09:46,828 --> 00:09:50,428 Speaker 2: Kyle, It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be really hard. 236 00:09:50,588 --> 00:09:53,148 Speaker 5: The Adrian Peterson not only did he have the ridiculous 237 00:09:53,188 --> 00:09:55,308 Speaker 5: production that year, like he had the coming off the 238 00:09:55,348 --> 00:09:56,948 Speaker 5: ACL like the story was there. 239 00:09:56,948 --> 00:09:57,948 Speaker 2: It was just all perfect. 240 00:09:58,268 --> 00:10:00,748 Speaker 5: And you point to so many prolific running back seasons 241 00:10:00,748 --> 00:10:04,708 Speaker 5: we've seen since then and nothing. McCaffrey las next year, 242 00:10:04,748 --> 00:10:07,148 Speaker 5: and even McCaffrey won one thousand and a thousand with Carolina, 243 00:10:07,148 --> 00:10:08,988 Speaker 5: And it's just it's always quarterbacks. 244 00:10:09,268 --> 00:10:10,108 Speaker 2: I've said this before. 245 00:10:10,228 --> 00:10:12,508 Speaker 5: For it to be an MVP running back, I think 246 00:10:12,508 --> 00:10:15,108 Speaker 5: two thousand yards starts the conversation. You have to give 247 00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:17,308 Speaker 5: them that number to toss them that. You have to 248 00:10:17,308 --> 00:10:18,868 Speaker 5: be probably on the best team. 249 00:10:18,628 --> 00:10:20,988 Speaker 2: In the NFL. You have to do so many things, and. 250 00:10:20,948 --> 00:10:22,868 Speaker 5: Then also you have to have like a kind of 251 00:10:22,868 --> 00:10:26,028 Speaker 5: a down year for quarterbacks. There's just too many things 252 00:10:26,228 --> 00:10:29,668 Speaker 5: I want to double back on MJD's list. Is there 253 00:10:29,668 --> 00:10:31,668 Speaker 5: a case to be made for anybody? Peter got me going. 254 00:10:31,708 --> 00:10:34,428 Speaker 5: We start talking about Beijon. Like, if you're a fantasy 255 00:10:34,428 --> 00:10:36,668 Speaker 5: player and you got the number one pick in your lottery, 256 00:10:37,028 --> 00:10:39,268 Speaker 5: is there someone that you would take instead of McCaffrey. 257 00:10:39,268 --> 00:10:40,108 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. 258 00:10:40,388 --> 00:10:43,348 Speaker 5: The reason you win fantasy leagues is getting a guy 259 00:10:43,428 --> 00:10:45,828 Speaker 5: the year he blows up, not the year after, not 260 00:10:45,868 --> 00:10:49,828 Speaker 5: two years after. McCaffrey was wildly productive last year, a 261 00:10:49,948 --> 00:10:53,108 Speaker 5: huge workload. It's difficult to stack seasons back to back 262 00:10:53,148 --> 00:10:55,668 Speaker 5: like that, avoiding injuries, all that stuff. If you are 263 00:10:55,788 --> 00:10:58,428 Speaker 5: feeling crazy and your number one pick in the draft, 264 00:10:58,428 --> 00:11:00,828 Speaker 5: you stand up there in front of your friends and 265 00:11:00,948 --> 00:11:05,788 Speaker 5: grab the Breis Hall sticker or the Bijon sticker? 266 00:11:06,148 --> 00:11:06,748 Speaker 4: Would you do it? 267 00:11:06,748 --> 00:11:06,988 Speaker 2: Peter? 268 00:11:07,108 --> 00:11:08,748 Speaker 6: Are you just gonna go because it's different? 269 00:11:08,868 --> 00:11:11,268 Speaker 7: Like last year I took Saquon first overall in my 270 00:11:11,308 --> 00:11:13,108 Speaker 7: fantasy draft and everyone fell off their chair and it 271 00:11:13,108 --> 00:11:15,108 Speaker 7: didn't work out, But it was like I thought Saquon 272 00:11:15,188 --> 00:11:18,188 Speaker 7: was gonna have a big year. Look fantasy football, to me, 273 00:11:18,308 --> 00:11:20,948 Speaker 7: it's like always to me, it's you can look at 274 00:11:20,988 --> 00:11:22,948 Speaker 7: all these wonks who do the numbers and they try 275 00:11:22,988 --> 00:11:24,748 Speaker 7: their snap counts in preseason. 276 00:11:24,348 --> 00:11:25,708 Speaker 6: Or you can say, like who do I want to 277 00:11:25,788 --> 00:11:27,148 Speaker 6: root for? And who do I want to say? 278 00:11:27,188 --> 00:11:28,868 Speaker 7: And who do I in my gut feel like it's 279 00:11:28,908 --> 00:11:31,228 Speaker 7: gonna have a big year. To me, I think Bijon 280 00:11:31,388 --> 00:11:33,148 Speaker 7: is more than worthy to go one to one in 281 00:11:33,188 --> 00:11:35,788 Speaker 7: the fantasy draft, even above Christian McCaffrey this year. And 282 00:11:35,788 --> 00:11:37,508 Speaker 7: you know what, it's probably more fun to root for that. 283 00:11:37,588 --> 00:11:38,628 Speaker 7: And then it's the stock pick. 284 00:11:38,788 --> 00:11:40,308 Speaker 8: Hey, you know what, let me triple down on that, 285 00:11:40,628 --> 00:11:43,948 Speaker 8: because Bjon Robinson is the running back who I think 286 00:11:44,028 --> 00:11:46,588 Speaker 8: has probably the best chance to win MVP. And I 287 00:11:46,628 --> 00:11:48,668 Speaker 8: think everybody knows that. In order for a running back, 288 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:50,988 Speaker 8: and it's it's a long shot, but in order for 289 00:11:51,028 --> 00:11:53,668 Speaker 8: a running back to win, you know, he's got to 290 00:11:53,708 --> 00:11:56,268 Speaker 8: have a nice offensive line, and he has to have 291 00:11:56,308 --> 00:11:59,188 Speaker 8: a quarterback that is not going to threaten being an 292 00:11:59,308 --> 00:12:02,388 Speaker 8: MVP candidate. And so I love Kirk Cousins. I think 293 00:12:02,388 --> 00:12:05,508 Speaker 8: he's a dynamite quarterback. But I think that's the recipe. 294 00:12:05,548 --> 00:12:08,588 Speaker 8: You look at Adrian Peterson, who was this quarterback back 295 00:12:08,588 --> 00:12:13,188 Speaker 8: then uh lakwan, do we who's Adrian Peterson's quarterback, Christian 296 00:12:13,228 --> 00:12:16,908 Speaker 8: Ponders Christian Ponder right on Peter. 297 00:12:20,548 --> 00:12:22,508 Speaker 6: Varis Jackson. I don't know that's a cool shirt though. 298 00:12:22,708 --> 00:12:25,908 Speaker 8: You think before then it was La Damian Thomason. Then 299 00:12:26,068 --> 00:12:28,708 Speaker 8: I think it was back in six it was Philip 300 00:12:28,788 --> 00:12:31,948 Speaker 8: Rivers so and Philip Rivers wasn't Philip Rivers yet. So 301 00:12:32,908 --> 00:12:35,868 Speaker 8: I think Jon has probably the best opportunity to win 302 00:12:35,908 --> 00:12:36,428 Speaker 8: that MVP. 303 00:12:36,548 --> 00:12:38,188 Speaker 2: I'm actually rooting for him. I like the kid. 304 00:12:38,828 --> 00:12:39,508 Speaker 4: You don't think. 305 00:12:39,428 --> 00:12:43,708 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins could offend an MVP candidacy for b John 306 00:12:43,788 --> 00:12:46,348 Speaker 3: Robinson whatsoever. The way he can throw the ball and 307 00:12:46,388 --> 00:12:48,028 Speaker 3: the way you expected. 308 00:12:47,548 --> 00:12:48,508 Speaker 4: To do and I don't. 309 00:12:48,628 --> 00:12:49,068 Speaker 2: I don't think. 310 00:12:49,108 --> 00:12:51,548 Speaker 8: I think too many people like they do the name 311 00:12:51,588 --> 00:12:54,628 Speaker 8: brand stuff. Right, you can buy the same belt from Target. 312 00:12:54,668 --> 00:12:57,428 Speaker 8: That's nice. Then you can go get one that's from Gucci. 313 00:12:57,948 --> 00:13:00,628 Speaker 8: The Target one's probably better, right, But no one's going 314 00:13:00,708 --> 00:13:02,788 Speaker 8: to give him that respect. I don't think kirk Cousin 315 00:13:02,868 --> 00:13:06,308 Speaker 8: has the same type of respect from folks out there, 316 00:13:06,308 --> 00:13:08,628 Speaker 8: so they probably wouldn't put him in the MVP candidate. 317 00:13:08,708 --> 00:13:10,388 Speaker 8: But I think he's an amazing quarterback. 318 00:13:10,468 --> 00:13:12,348 Speaker 3: Well, I just consider the way the offense is going 319 00:13:12,388 --> 00:13:15,948 Speaker 3: to run in Atlanta, and I just Bejon's really good. 320 00:13:16,068 --> 00:13:18,308 Speaker 3: I just don't you have Kirk Cousins, Like, why would 321 00:13:18,308 --> 00:13:21,348 Speaker 3: you hand the ball off every other time to bolster 322 00:13:21,548 --> 00:13:22,588 Speaker 3: a Bijon. 323 00:13:22,428 --> 00:13:25,988 Speaker 4: MVP candidate campaign? If you will? I'm it's a trigger 324 00:13:25,988 --> 00:13:27,308 Speaker 4: word right now. I don't even want to say the words. 325 00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:28,908 Speaker 2: That's a good point. 326 00:13:28,908 --> 00:13:31,628 Speaker 7: That's no, no, no, that's the misnomer. You don't need 327 00:13:31,708 --> 00:13:34,068 Speaker 7: just handoffs like That's the thing I think while McCaffrey 328 00:13:34,108 --> 00:13:36,068 Speaker 7: was so electric is because they got the wide receiver 329 00:13:36,108 --> 00:13:36,668 Speaker 7: stuff in with them. 330 00:13:36,708 --> 00:13:37,228 Speaker 6: I think if they. 331 00:13:37,268 --> 00:13:40,148 Speaker 7: Use Bijon that way, it won't take away from kirk 332 00:13:40,188 --> 00:13:42,868 Speaker 7: cousins past attempts. It's just that he'll become that Marshall 333 00:13:42,908 --> 00:13:46,028 Speaker 7: falwk type or he'll become you know what they did 334 00:13:46,068 --> 00:13:48,948 Speaker 7: with of course Alvin Kamara a few years ago, where 335 00:13:48,948 --> 00:13:50,668 Speaker 7: it's like you're gonna get a hundred catches, also like 336 00:13:50,708 --> 00:13:51,668 Speaker 7: we're going to still give you that. 337 00:13:52,188 --> 00:13:53,068 Speaker 2: To me, if. 338 00:13:52,988 --> 00:13:55,268 Speaker 7: McCaffrey is going to do it, it's going to take 339 00:13:55,668 --> 00:14:00,068 Speaker 7: a herculean effort. A thousand yards receiving thousand yards running 340 00:14:00,428 --> 00:14:02,708 Speaker 7: one hundred catches, Like we have put the bar so 341 00:14:02,828 --> 00:14:05,068 Speaker 7: high for these running backs, and even then if he. 342 00:14:05,108 --> 00:14:07,668 Speaker 6: Does all that, they still might give the MVP to party. 343 00:14:07,708 --> 00:14:10,548 Speaker 7: So to your point, Jamie, it's really difficult for running back. 344 00:14:10,588 --> 00:14:11,108 Speaker 2: And I would just. 345 00:14:11,108 --> 00:14:12,988 Speaker 5: Say, I want to talk to the kids out there. 346 00:14:13,828 --> 00:14:15,868 Speaker 5: If you get the number one pick, probably just take McCaffrey. 347 00:14:15,908 --> 00:14:16,948 Speaker 2: I think I got a little bit. 348 00:14:17,708 --> 00:14:19,788 Speaker 4: Don't care because fun. 349 00:14:19,828 --> 00:14:22,348 Speaker 5: I'm reminded that there was like a five year run 350 00:14:22,428 --> 00:14:25,388 Speaker 5: where Ladanian was the number one pick and he always. 351 00:14:25,028 --> 00:14:27,228 Speaker 7: Produce unless you took Priest Holmes, and you felt great 352 00:14:27,268 --> 00:14:28,948 Speaker 7: because you were the wan who took Priest Holmes. 353 00:14:28,948 --> 00:14:31,948 Speaker 5: I know, but listen, don't do anything crazy. We get 354 00:14:31,988 --> 00:14:34,068 Speaker 5: worked up a little bit here and Peter gets emotional. 355 00:14:34,148 --> 00:14:36,068 Speaker 5: Peter just said he picked Saquon last week. They do 356 00:14:36,188 --> 00:14:38,788 Speaker 5: all right, you should probably go with McCaffrey first. 357 00:14:38,828 --> 00:14:41,868 Speaker 3: Overall, he lives in a New York No good, that'll 358 00:14:41,868 --> 00:14:44,228 Speaker 3: do it, Hey, we too of the preseason kicks off 359 00:14:44,828 --> 00:14:47,148 Speaker 3: right here on our home on NFL Networks tomorrow night. 360 00:14:47,188 --> 00:14:47,748 Speaker 4: It's happening. 361 00:14:47,748 --> 00:14:49,948 Speaker 3: You're going to get another glimpse of rookie quarterback Drake 362 00:14:50,068 --> 00:14:53,668 Speaker 3: May for New England. They're taking on the Eagles tomorrow 363 00:14:53,708 --> 00:14:56,708 Speaker 3: at seven pm Eastern. It's one of six live games 364 00:14:56,748 --> 00:15:00,788 Speaker 3: we actually have this week on the network. The Vikings 365 00:15:00,988 --> 00:15:04,068 Speaker 3: are going to be without their rookie quarterback JJ McCarthy 366 00:15:04,068 --> 00:15:07,428 Speaker 3: for the foreseeable future. That was news that came out 367 00:15:07,428 --> 00:15:11,028 Speaker 3: of camp yesterday. Didn't see it coming. How do the 368 00:15:11,068 --> 00:15:12,708 Speaker 3: Vikings move forward without him? 369 00:15:12,788 --> 00:15:14,268 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about it later on the show. 370 00:15:16,468 --> 00:15:18,468 Speaker 5: Do you have Bears fatigue already? 371 00:15:18,748 --> 00:15:19,788 Speaker 2: I'll ask the question. 372 00:15:20,028 --> 00:15:22,708 Speaker 5: It's a lot of Bears talk since the draft. They 373 00:15:22,748 --> 00:15:24,828 Speaker 5: have an HBO show, we talk about them a lot. 374 00:15:24,908 --> 00:15:26,588 Speaker 5: Any other place talks about them a lot. 375 00:15:26,748 --> 00:15:28,508 Speaker 2: They haven't even played a game yet. They want for weeks. 376 00:15:28,508 --> 00:15:30,108 Speaker 5: Are you over it? Are you like hell No, I've 377 00:15:30,108 --> 00:15:31,068 Speaker 5: waited for this season. 378 00:15:31,268 --> 00:15:32,068 Speaker 2: We'll get into it. 379 00:15:32,228 --> 00:15:34,068 Speaker 4: Answer the question, Kyle, are you over it? 380 00:15:34,748 --> 00:15:36,508 Speaker 2: I'll no, not at all. 381 00:15:36,548 --> 00:15:46,348 Speaker 6: I'm not either smoking them into it? What is this 382 00:15:46,428 --> 00:15:50,028 Speaker 6: group stretcher? There's always a little power just partner stretcher. 383 00:15:50,908 --> 00:15:53,548 Speaker 2: It's much migrating to partners partner chefs. 384 00:15:53,628 --> 00:15:55,588 Speaker 9: Okay, I want to tell you what I was watching 385 00:15:55,908 --> 00:15:59,708 Speaker 9: Emily put on the show last night, the show Love Island. 386 00:16:00,348 --> 00:16:03,468 Speaker 6: Don't shut up, oh man, it's just unbelievable. 387 00:16:03,828 --> 00:16:06,228 Speaker 2: Bro Payne and I watched Love Island. 388 00:16:05,908 --> 00:16:10,348 Speaker 7: Like religious religiously, not religiously, But that is not cringe show. 389 00:16:10,388 --> 00:16:12,308 Speaker 2: I've ever a lot so good. Which one are you watching? 390 00:16:12,308 --> 00:16:15,508 Speaker 2: The USA or the New whatever? The most recent season is. 391 00:16:15,628 --> 00:16:17,268 Speaker 2: There's the US, same one and there's a bridge. I 392 00:16:17,268 --> 00:16:18,068 Speaker 2: mean it's cringey. 393 00:16:18,428 --> 00:16:22,428 Speaker 1: I mean they just bring in h random people the bombshells. 394 00:16:25,188 --> 00:16:28,508 Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, bro, I know. 395 00:16:28,428 --> 00:16:29,948 Speaker 2: You're part of these enjoying it. 396 00:16:29,988 --> 00:16:32,508 Speaker 5: Bro. I was it's like watching a car wreck, like 397 00:16:32,628 --> 00:16:36,988 Speaker 5: you're like, I got a look away exactly watch it. 398 00:16:37,428 --> 00:16:38,508 Speaker 2: I literally said the same thing. 399 00:16:38,548 --> 00:16:40,668 Speaker 8: But you can get hooked, man, because then you're like, 400 00:16:41,228 --> 00:16:42,788 Speaker 8: what's Rob and Leo's deal? 401 00:16:46,028 --> 00:16:47,508 Speaker 4: That was from Hard Knocks last night. 402 00:16:47,588 --> 00:16:50,548 Speaker 3: Guys, I gotta tell you Austin read his face when 403 00:16:50,628 --> 00:16:52,948 Speaker 3: Cole Comet starts to bait hit with Love Island. 404 00:16:53,268 --> 00:16:54,948 Speaker 4: How stressed is the rookie quarterback? 405 00:16:54,948 --> 00:16:57,108 Speaker 3: Because this is one of those things where someone's like, hey, 406 00:16:57,148 --> 00:16:59,628 Speaker 3: you know how much I love Love Island. You're like, no, 407 00:16:59,788 --> 00:17:02,388 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with it. We watched religiously, like seriously, I 408 00:17:02,468 --> 00:17:03,908 Speaker 3: was just joking, what is wrong with you? 409 00:17:04,028 --> 00:17:04,228 Speaker 9: Man? 410 00:17:04,268 --> 00:17:07,748 Speaker 3: I think he was like like kind of tiptoeing, like 411 00:17:07,948 --> 00:17:10,588 Speaker 3: do you really love it? It's like do you watch 412 00:17:10,668 --> 00:17:13,388 Speaker 3: the US testing him. I really felt for the rookie 413 00:17:13,468 --> 00:17:15,388 Speaker 3: quarterback there because like, I get it, man, like you 414 00:17:15,428 --> 00:17:17,228 Speaker 3: don't want to admit that you wake up and read 415 00:17:17,228 --> 00:17:19,788 Speaker 3: People magazine every morning like it's fine. 416 00:17:20,588 --> 00:17:20,788 Speaker 2: Oh. 417 00:17:20,908 --> 00:17:23,388 Speaker 5: I Like on shows like that, there's always like there's 418 00:17:23,428 --> 00:17:26,028 Speaker 5: one person who's like the veteran. In this case, it 419 00:17:26,068 --> 00:17:28,548 Speaker 5: was Austin read ironically, who's a rookie and then new 420 00:17:28,628 --> 00:17:31,108 Speaker 5: to the show as Cole Comet, and the veteran has 421 00:17:31,148 --> 00:17:34,028 Speaker 5: always has this energy of like, oh, just wait, just 422 00:17:34,068 --> 00:17:36,068 Speaker 5: wait until he gets this, like when you're watching squid 423 00:17:36,108 --> 00:17:38,908 Speaker 5: games or Tiger King one of those things, and that 424 00:17:39,028 --> 00:17:41,748 Speaker 5: person's like the like the the leader that gets you 425 00:17:41,788 --> 00:17:44,508 Speaker 5: through it. That was a really sweet, relatable moment. We've 426 00:17:44,548 --> 00:17:46,548 Speaker 5: always felt that way about a TV show, Peter, what 427 00:17:46,908 --> 00:17:47,588 Speaker 5: do you blow deck? 428 00:17:47,628 --> 00:17:48,108 Speaker 2: That's your thing? 429 00:17:48,228 --> 00:17:50,548 Speaker 6: I love that below deck? You know what's that? 430 00:17:51,028 --> 00:17:53,708 Speaker 7: It's like Mediterranean cruise does that the staff are just 431 00:17:53,748 --> 00:17:55,428 Speaker 7: sleeping with the people on the ship. 432 00:17:55,548 --> 00:17:56,548 Speaker 6: Great, it sounds awesome. 433 00:17:56,708 --> 00:17:57,668 Speaker 2: Just wait, just. 434 00:17:57,628 --> 00:18:01,068 Speaker 6: Wait, it's five. It gets really all of a sudden. 435 00:18:00,788 --> 00:18:02,468 Speaker 3: You're like, is that the shrager who's out in the 436 00:18:02,468 --> 00:18:03,308 Speaker 3: Hampton's I know. 437 00:18:06,908 --> 00:18:08,868 Speaker 6: Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. 438 00:18:09,028 --> 00:18:11,948 Speaker 7: That kid right there, that Austin Reid, he has been 439 00:18:12,188 --> 00:18:14,348 Speaker 7: a star on Hard Knocks through two weeks. 440 00:18:14,388 --> 00:18:15,028 Speaker 2: He had a. 441 00:18:14,868 --> 00:18:18,228 Speaker 7: Great charming moment as they where Sean McDermott through a 442 00:18:18,308 --> 00:18:22,148 Speaker 7: challenge flag on a fourth down play that Austin and 443 00:18:22,188 --> 00:18:26,068 Speaker 7: they show read like Sean McDermott's gonna throw a challenge flag. 444 00:18:26,148 --> 00:18:28,908 Speaker 2: He's like, but what are you doing? And like, look, 445 00:18:28,948 --> 00:18:29,468 Speaker 2: I don't know if. 446 00:18:29,348 --> 00:18:30,388 Speaker 6: Boston Red is making the team. 447 00:18:30,388 --> 00:18:32,348 Speaker 7: Sean mcdermot's a made man in the league, and like, 448 00:18:32,588 --> 00:18:34,708 Speaker 7: I just love that this kid has got a personality 449 00:18:34,748 --> 00:18:36,108 Speaker 7: and we might we might not see me in the 450 00:18:36,228 --> 00:18:39,188 Speaker 7: NFL for years and years and years, But through two episodes, 451 00:18:39,188 --> 00:18:40,428 Speaker 7: he's been a stud on this show. 452 00:18:40,548 --> 00:18:43,188 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like his parents' support too. That's been pretty cool. 453 00:18:43,308 --> 00:18:45,708 Speaker 4: Just yep. 454 00:18:45,788 --> 00:18:50,068 Speaker 3: He saw Roman Dunze perform his rookie Talent show song. 455 00:18:50,508 --> 00:18:52,028 Speaker 4: What is it he did? 456 00:18:52,188 --> 00:18:52,468 Speaker 2: He did? 457 00:18:52,668 --> 00:18:55,668 Speaker 3: Once the team commits, it's very helpful. I was worried 458 00:18:55,668 --> 00:18:57,508 Speaker 3: there for just a second. How does it make us 459 00:18:57,508 --> 00:18:58,708 Speaker 3: all feel about the Bears right now? 460 00:18:58,788 --> 00:18:59,028 Speaker 2: Kyle? 461 00:19:01,268 --> 00:19:03,588 Speaker 5: I mean, we always feel great about the Hard Knocks team. 462 00:19:03,708 --> 00:19:05,788 Speaker 5: They're gonna win every game. They look so good. The 463 00:19:05,868 --> 00:19:08,748 Speaker 5: slow motion sprinklers and all that. I alluded to this 464 00:19:08,788 --> 00:19:11,028 Speaker 5: in the last segment that you know. I've talked a 465 00:19:11,068 --> 00:19:12,828 Speaker 5: lot about the Bears over the last couple of weeks, 466 00:19:12,868 --> 00:19:16,068 Speaker 5: and I get messages chirping about enough with the Bears, 467 00:19:16,148 --> 00:19:19,588 Speaker 5: enough with the Bears. I love if people are getting 468 00:19:19,628 --> 00:19:22,148 Speaker 5: sick of the Bears. I love it because if you're 469 00:19:22,148 --> 00:19:24,548 Speaker 5: getting sick of a team, they're doing something right. 470 00:19:24,868 --> 00:19:26,748 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people sick of the Chiefs. There's 471 00:19:26,788 --> 00:19:28,628 Speaker 2: a lot of people sick of the Patriots for years. 472 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:31,708 Speaker 5: I want you to be sick of a team because 473 00:19:31,708 --> 00:19:32,428 Speaker 5: we're showing them. 474 00:19:32,668 --> 00:19:34,308 Speaker 2: And believe me, if they. 475 00:19:34,308 --> 00:19:36,228 Speaker 5: Start winning with this team and they come out too 476 00:19:36,228 --> 00:19:39,108 Speaker 5: and one and they win that Week two nationally televised 477 00:19:39,108 --> 00:19:41,148 Speaker 5: game against the Texans, you think you're sick of them. 478 00:19:41,228 --> 00:19:43,228 Speaker 5: Now it's going to be Bears twenty four to seven. 479 00:19:43,268 --> 00:19:45,588 Speaker 5: I'm sorry to tell you. There goes DJ Moore through 480 00:19:45,588 --> 00:19:49,148 Speaker 5: the night. I think they look great loose. We'll see 481 00:19:49,748 --> 00:19:52,428 Speaker 5: the head coach has never accomplished much, the quarterback's never 482 00:19:52,468 --> 00:19:55,868 Speaker 5: done anything. But I like that people are sick of them, 483 00:19:55,908 --> 00:19:56,388 Speaker 5: stay sick. 484 00:19:56,468 --> 00:19:56,868 Speaker 2: I like it. 485 00:19:56,948 --> 00:20:02,828 Speaker 7: Hey, I will add this the highest rated premiere in 486 00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:05,828 Speaker 7: the last five years. Was last this week's Hard Knocks 487 00:20:05,828 --> 00:20:08,948 Speaker 7: premiere of the Chicago Bears on Hard Knocks, so people 488 00:20:08,988 --> 00:20:13,068 Speaker 7: are watching the Bears, fans are activated, and the first episode, 489 00:20:13,188 --> 00:20:15,268 Speaker 7: if I give you my honest review, was like a 490 00:20:15,268 --> 00:20:17,868 Speaker 7: lot of character building. We're gonna get to know Maddieberflus, Well, 491 00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:19,748 Speaker 7: we know Maddieberflut. We're gonna get to know Caleb Williams, 492 00:20:19,868 --> 00:20:22,628 Speaker 7: we know Cablebs. The episode that happened last night, which 493 00:20:22,668 --> 00:20:26,828 Speaker 7: I watched, it's football, like Jalen Johnson and Keenan Allen 494 00:20:26,868 --> 00:20:28,548 Speaker 7: are going out at it on the sidelines. 495 00:20:28,588 --> 00:20:29,188 Speaker 6: It's great. 496 00:20:29,468 --> 00:20:32,348 Speaker 7: You've got Wheeler the running back trying to make the 497 00:20:32,428 --> 00:20:35,108 Speaker 7: team and Chad Moore in the running backs coaches chewing 498 00:20:35,148 --> 00:20:38,188 Speaker 7: him out like there was actual football in Caleb. He's 499 00:20:38,228 --> 00:20:40,388 Speaker 7: the biggest show in town. The guy is awesome and 500 00:20:40,428 --> 00:20:42,468 Speaker 7: there's a great humanity in him. So far that we've 501 00:20:42,468 --> 00:20:45,828 Speaker 7: seen thirsty two episodes where he's not this cocky know 502 00:20:45,988 --> 00:20:49,108 Speaker 7: it all, like he's hanging with Brett Rippon, Austin Reid 503 00:20:49,188 --> 00:20:50,948 Speaker 7: and Tyson Bagent and he's just one of the guys. 504 00:20:50,988 --> 00:20:53,068 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm really growing to like Caleb through the show. 505 00:20:53,308 --> 00:20:54,908 Speaker 8: I mean, you guys know how much of a fan 506 00:20:54,988 --> 00:20:58,148 Speaker 8: I am of the Los Angeles Lakers. And ironically, this 507 00:20:58,308 --> 00:21:03,188 Speaker 8: comparison happens on my favorite basketball player's birthday, Magic Johnson. 508 00:21:03,228 --> 00:21:07,148 Speaker 8: Shout out to Magic Johnson, Happy Birthday. But Caleb Williams 509 00:21:07,188 --> 00:21:11,028 Speaker 8: reminds me a lot of the impact that Magic Johnson 510 00:21:11,108 --> 00:21:13,668 Speaker 8: had coming to LA. There was an excitement, there was 511 00:21:13,708 --> 00:21:15,948 Speaker 8: a smile that he has that lit up a city 512 00:21:15,988 --> 00:21:19,348 Speaker 8: from Los Angeles to Bangor Maine. And I think Caleb 513 00:21:19,468 --> 00:21:21,748 Speaker 8: has that same thing. Whenever you see him he's smiling, 514 00:21:21,788 --> 00:21:25,388 Speaker 8: there's this relax this ease to him, this comfort, and 515 00:21:25,428 --> 00:21:28,868 Speaker 8: I'm like, Kyler to your point, man, I am really 516 00:21:28,988 --> 00:21:31,548 Speaker 8: feeling like I'm like, I'm like falling in love with 517 00:21:31,588 --> 00:21:32,428 Speaker 8: the Chicago Bears. 518 00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:34,148 Speaker 2: And I've never been a Bears fan ever. 519 00:21:34,388 --> 00:21:36,268 Speaker 8: The only person I ever liked from the Chicago Bears 520 00:21:36,388 --> 00:21:39,668 Speaker 8: was Refrigerator Perry, and that's because he had refrigerator in front. 521 00:21:39,468 --> 00:21:41,028 Speaker 2: Of his name. That was it. 522 00:21:41,708 --> 00:21:43,948 Speaker 8: And now all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm into it. 523 00:21:44,068 --> 00:21:46,628 Speaker 8: So and then shout out to to Chad more than 524 00:21:47,268 --> 00:21:50,028 Speaker 8: Ian Wheeler. I love that kind of like the dog 525 00:21:50,188 --> 00:21:52,708 Speaker 8: days of two a days and you have a coach. 526 00:21:52,988 --> 00:21:55,748 Speaker 8: And my dad used to say this, if your coach 527 00:21:56,028 --> 00:21:58,948 Speaker 8: isn't on you and screaming at you, then that it 528 00:21:59,068 --> 00:22:01,748 Speaker 8: means they don't That means they don't care, right, And 529 00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:04,268 Speaker 8: if they're on you, they care. So I think this 530 00:22:04,428 --> 00:22:05,988 Speaker 8: kid might end up making the team coach. 531 00:22:05,788 --> 00:22:06,948 Speaker 4: Scream with the love language. 532 00:22:08,668 --> 00:22:13,548 Speaker 5: How far you didn't like Brian Erlacker, Devin Hester, Jake Cutler, 533 00:22:13,708 --> 00:22:15,988 Speaker 5: we could go you didn't like any of those guys 534 00:22:15,988 --> 00:22:16,988 Speaker 5: over the years on the Bears. 535 00:22:17,268 --> 00:22:19,588 Speaker 8: I did like Devin Hester. I did like brian Erlaker, 536 00:22:19,628 --> 00:22:22,268 Speaker 8: but you have to remember with Ermaker, I was competing, 537 00:22:22,468 --> 00:22:24,748 Speaker 8: so it was a difference, you know what I mean. 538 00:22:24,908 --> 00:22:28,068 Speaker 8: Devin Hester I grew to appreciate, but going back earlier, 539 00:22:28,188 --> 00:22:30,388 Speaker 8: like it was a refrigerator parent. 540 00:22:30,668 --> 00:22:32,868 Speaker 2: That's my favorite Chicago. That's it. That's all I have 541 00:22:32,948 --> 00:22:33,748 Speaker 2: for you. I'm sorry. 542 00:22:34,108 --> 00:22:37,308 Speaker 3: I like just the ten second we had insight into 543 00:22:37,348 --> 00:22:39,788 Speaker 3: the meeting room where because we always hear about this 544 00:22:39,868 --> 00:22:41,668 Speaker 3: after the fact, especially if things don't go well for 545 00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:45,988 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback like man, the attention to detail just wasn't there, Like, oh, 546 00:22:46,028 --> 00:22:49,028 Speaker 3: we wasn't We're seeing all those little insights into kileb 547 00:22:49,028 --> 00:22:51,548 Speaker 3: Williams when they were having a meeting room talking about 548 00:22:51,588 --> 00:22:55,028 Speaker 3: the officiating cruise, and Caleb Williams goes, yes, well, how 549 00:22:55,068 --> 00:22:56,868 Speaker 3: often am I going to see these guys? And they're 550 00:22:56,908 --> 00:22:59,948 Speaker 3: giving him a bio Craig Rohlsat, who knew an athletic 551 00:23:00,028 --> 00:23:01,788 Speaker 3: director or at a prep school in Seattle. I had 552 00:23:01,788 --> 00:23:03,948 Speaker 3: no idea, but like, this is the kind of stuff. 553 00:23:03,668 --> 00:23:04,228 Speaker 4: You care about. 554 00:23:04,428 --> 00:23:07,028 Speaker 3: There's seventeen crews and you can see him listening and 555 00:23:07,028 --> 00:23:09,748 Speaker 3: calculating this information and like, oh, it's. 556 00:23:09,588 --> 00:23:11,988 Speaker 4: The hard knocks cars. I'm drunk on it. 557 00:23:12,188 --> 00:23:12,388 Speaker 2: Yeah. 558 00:23:12,428 --> 00:23:15,108 Speaker 8: You know what's interesting about that because I never I 559 00:23:15,188 --> 00:23:17,788 Speaker 8: used to always figure out, like, how did the quarterbacks 560 00:23:17,948 --> 00:23:21,348 Speaker 8: know all these officials? I never knew any of the officials. 561 00:23:21,508 --> 00:23:23,428 Speaker 8: Only knew Ed Hockeley and Mike Carrey. 562 00:23:23,148 --> 00:23:23,548 Speaker 2: That was it. 563 00:23:23,588 --> 00:23:25,748 Speaker 8: But the other guys that never knew, So that was 564 00:23:25,788 --> 00:23:27,508 Speaker 8: cool that they were giving him a breakdown like that. 565 00:23:27,588 --> 00:23:30,508 Speaker 7: Yeah, if you didn't see it, here's the scene as 566 00:23:30,588 --> 00:23:33,628 Speaker 7: Jamie was detailing. It's a guy named Harry Freed. Do 567 00:23:33,628 --> 00:23:36,388 Speaker 7: you know who Harry Freed is. That's Jared Freed, our 568 00:23:36,428 --> 00:23:38,708 Speaker 7: old friend of the show. That's his little brother and 569 00:23:38,868 --> 00:23:42,908 Speaker 7: his job is to help prep Caleb Williams on who 570 00:23:43,068 --> 00:23:46,148 Speaker 7: the different officials are, so that you can have a relationship. 571 00:23:45,548 --> 00:23:46,188 Speaker 6: With these guys. 572 00:23:46,388 --> 00:23:48,828 Speaker 7: And like Jamie said, he's talking about how. 573 00:23:48,748 --> 00:23:50,388 Speaker 6: Craig Rohlstad, one of the great officials of. 574 00:23:50,388 --> 00:23:54,308 Speaker 7: The league, is actually an ad or an administrator at 575 00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:57,148 Speaker 7: a prep school and up in Washington State. But Harry Freed, 576 00:23:57,268 --> 00:23:59,228 Speaker 7: Jared Fried's little brother, a little friend of the show. 577 00:23:59,268 --> 00:24:00,348 Speaker 6: Actually, I think Jared. 578 00:24:00,108 --> 00:24:02,028 Speaker 5: Freed was once on the program dressed as a taco 579 00:24:02,188 --> 00:24:05,628 Speaker 5: or something like that. I just the best. The best 580 00:24:05,628 --> 00:24:08,108 Speaker 5: I can contribute is the little inside information. There's a 581 00:24:08,108 --> 00:24:09,508 Speaker 5: guy who works for the Bears, has been with him 582 00:24:09,508 --> 00:24:11,388 Speaker 5: for years as a friend of mine, and I text 583 00:24:11,468 --> 00:24:13,308 Speaker 5: him about a week ago and I go, give me 584 00:24:13,348 --> 00:24:15,628 Speaker 5: the real deal, like, how's it looking out there? Tell 585 00:24:15,668 --> 00:24:19,588 Speaker 5: me how this team is. He says, Caleb's coming along. 586 00:24:19,948 --> 00:24:22,988 Speaker 5: Defense is ridiculous, and I go, well, that sounds great, 587 00:24:22,988 --> 00:24:24,748 Speaker 5: but like I need a little more than coming along. 588 00:24:24,788 --> 00:24:26,068 Speaker 2: What are we talking about? This is a number one 589 00:24:26,068 --> 00:24:27,188 Speaker 2: overall pick. Is he ready? 590 00:24:27,468 --> 00:24:31,228 Speaker 5: And he said he'll be ready again. Defense is ridiculous. 591 00:24:31,348 --> 00:24:33,268 Speaker 5: That's what we've been talking about with the Bears. And 592 00:24:33,388 --> 00:24:36,148 Speaker 5: Peter mentioned if you have not seen hard knocks Jalen Johnson. 593 00:24:36,148 --> 00:24:39,628 Speaker 5: They're all Pro defensive back is just battling with Keenan 594 00:24:39,628 --> 00:24:43,828 Speaker 5: Allen all practice every practice, one on ones, talking, chirping, 595 00:24:44,148 --> 00:24:46,388 Speaker 5: and then after a few battles they sit Keenan Allen 596 00:24:46,388 --> 00:24:48,148 Speaker 5: down in front of the media and they say, how's 597 00:24:48,228 --> 00:24:50,668 Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson out there? And Keenan, to his credit, says, 598 00:24:50,828 --> 00:24:52,708 Speaker 5: I haven't had a catch on him, Like, I can't 599 00:24:52,708 --> 00:24:54,548 Speaker 5: get him. I'm going to get him one of these practices, 600 00:24:54,548 --> 00:24:56,908 Speaker 5: but I can't get open on him. The Bears defense 601 00:24:57,068 --> 00:24:59,988 Speaker 5: is very shortly now going to be the best kept secret. 602 00:25:00,108 --> 00:25:01,508 Speaker 2: This defense is going to blow up. 603 00:25:01,508 --> 00:25:06,668 Speaker 6: And you got a nice little piece there. Did you 604 00:25:06,708 --> 00:25:07,108 Speaker 6: see that. 605 00:25:07,108 --> 00:25:10,348 Speaker 7: Your Hard Knocks there's a nice g NFB spot And 606 00:25:10,388 --> 00:25:12,788 Speaker 7: I got jealous because it's your voice and it's wonderful 607 00:25:12,748 --> 00:25:14,428 Speaker 7: when you're talking about the NFL top wonder And I 608 00:25:14,468 --> 00:25:16,628 Speaker 7: was thinking, how can I get on Hard Knocks next week? 609 00:25:16,668 --> 00:25:18,428 Speaker 6: So here we go. 610 00:25:18,468 --> 00:25:20,028 Speaker 4: Give him something to think about. 611 00:25:20,148 --> 00:25:23,108 Speaker 7: Jamie, No sound hold on, give me give me a countdown, 612 00:25:23,108 --> 00:25:24,468 Speaker 7: three to one, James, give it to me, Give it. 613 00:25:24,468 --> 00:25:26,468 Speaker 4: To me three two action. 614 00:25:28,668 --> 00:25:32,388 Speaker 7: The thing about the Bears that really concerns me is 615 00:25:32,428 --> 00:25:35,188 Speaker 7: this coach's haircut gonna be Ryan Reynolds when it comes 616 00:25:35,188 --> 00:25:38,548 Speaker 7: December and January, or are the things gonna come undone? 617 00:25:38,828 --> 00:25:42,308 Speaker 6: That's the question in Chicago this month. 618 00:25:43,388 --> 00:25:53,148 Speaker 3: And here you I heard my voice. I was like, Oh, 619 00:25:53,308 --> 00:25:55,268 Speaker 3: Peter's gonna be big mad, all right. 620 00:25:55,188 --> 00:25:56,308 Speaker 4: We're gonna return on our show. 621 00:25:57,748 --> 00:25:58,428 Speaker 2: Congratulation. 622 00:26:07,468 --> 00:26:10,588 Speaker 3: My mind went a lot of places when this news 623 00:26:10,588 --> 00:26:13,108 Speaker 3: came out yesterday for the Vikings offense and the fact 624 00:26:13,108 --> 00:26:15,548 Speaker 3: that the tenth overall pick someone was so much potential, 625 00:26:15,548 --> 00:26:17,228 Speaker 3: but they wanted to put him in the right spot 626 00:26:17,308 --> 00:26:19,148 Speaker 3: and get all these things great, it's you're perfect for 627 00:26:19,228 --> 00:26:19,988 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy. 628 00:26:20,428 --> 00:26:22,908 Speaker 4: Where do the Vikings go after Sam Donald? 629 00:26:22,988 --> 00:26:24,788 Speaker 3: And how do they handle this in the future of 630 00:26:24,828 --> 00:26:26,108 Speaker 3: their rookie quarterback. 631 00:26:27,548 --> 00:26:30,508 Speaker 7: Look, it's been a brutal last couple of months from Minnesota. 632 00:26:30,548 --> 00:26:32,628 Speaker 7: They had a horrible tragedy with one of their players, 633 00:26:32,668 --> 00:26:35,268 Speaker 7: They've got, you know, stuff off the field with other ones, 634 00:26:35,308 --> 00:26:36,988 Speaker 7: and then they've got this injury, and it's like, we 635 00:26:36,988 --> 00:26:38,708 Speaker 7: didn't want to start off the season this way. And 636 00:26:38,748 --> 00:26:41,068 Speaker 7: yet I still say, I don't think this sets them 637 00:26:41,108 --> 00:26:43,908 Speaker 7: back as long as JJ comes back in a couple months. 638 00:26:43,988 --> 00:26:46,148 Speaker 7: Like I think it was Sam Donald's team anyway. And 639 00:26:46,148 --> 00:26:49,668 Speaker 7: it's unfortunate for JJ McCarthy to hurt your meniscus in 640 00:26:50,268 --> 00:26:52,868 Speaker 7: the preseason game, on a game that everyone was lauding 641 00:26:52,908 --> 00:26:55,788 Speaker 7: and saying was unbelievable. Like I came on, you know, 642 00:26:56,028 --> 00:26:58,468 Speaker 7: admittedly Monday morning, I'm like JJ McCarthy looked awesome, Like 643 00:26:58,668 --> 00:27:00,908 Speaker 7: he looked great. So this is just terrible news for 644 00:27:00,988 --> 00:27:04,388 Speaker 7: him personally. But twenty one years old, long career left, 645 00:27:04,628 --> 00:27:06,628 Speaker 7: and Sam Donald was likely going to start anyway, So 646 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:08,908 Speaker 7: I can't say that the season is derailed because of it. 647 00:27:09,708 --> 00:27:12,908 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I'm right there with you, Peter. We 648 00:27:12,948 --> 00:27:14,988 Speaker 8: already knew this was Sam Donald was going to be 649 00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:18,308 Speaker 8: the starter. And you know, first off, I'm wishing JJ 650 00:27:18,428 --> 00:27:22,148 Speaker 8: McCarthy a speedy recovery. I know that meniscus can be, 651 00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:25,508 Speaker 8: you know, problematic, but I also know too that I 652 00:27:25,508 --> 00:27:28,868 Speaker 8: believe he can heal quickly from that. But you know, 653 00:27:28,908 --> 00:27:31,068 Speaker 8: this also gives him It takes the pressure off for 654 00:27:31,148 --> 00:27:33,988 Speaker 8: coach O'Connell, It takes the pressure off the fans. I 655 00:27:34,028 --> 00:27:36,708 Speaker 8: think there is this this this thing that happens when 656 00:27:36,748 --> 00:27:38,628 Speaker 8: you get a guy who's a first round draft pick, 657 00:27:38,908 --> 00:27:39,988 Speaker 8: you want to rush him in. 658 00:27:40,028 --> 00:27:41,268 Speaker 2: There's just rush, rush, rush. 659 00:27:41,428 --> 00:27:44,268 Speaker 8: I think this gives everybody just an opportunity to take 660 00:27:44,308 --> 00:27:47,068 Speaker 8: a deep breath, let him recover, let him kind of 661 00:27:47,068 --> 00:27:50,108 Speaker 8: get acclimated to the NFL game, taking the mental reps, 662 00:27:50,108 --> 00:27:51,988 Speaker 8: and he'll be ready when his time is when his 663 00:27:52,068 --> 00:27:52,628 Speaker 8: time is up. 664 00:27:54,108 --> 00:27:55,908 Speaker 5: That is a glass of half full way of looking 665 00:27:55,948 --> 00:27:57,388 Speaker 5: at it. That it relieves the pressure. And I think 666 00:27:57,388 --> 00:27:59,708 Speaker 5: there would have been pressure because I don't think Sam 667 00:27:59,748 --> 00:28:01,308 Speaker 5: Donald is the answer, and if he wasn't going to 668 00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,508 Speaker 5: start the opener, I feel like JJ would have been 669 00:28:03,548 --> 00:28:05,348 Speaker 5: out there within the first few weeks of the season. 670 00:28:05,588 --> 00:28:07,948 Speaker 5: Maybe not Now, it's just crazy. The guy starts forty 671 00:28:08,028 --> 00:28:10,268 Speaker 5: games in college, goes out in the NFL field for 672 00:28:10,308 --> 00:28:12,308 Speaker 5: ten seconds and he has this looks like a major 673 00:28:12,428 --> 00:28:15,348 Speaker 5: knee injury. But look, the attitude around him is fantastic. 674 00:28:15,748 --> 00:28:18,028 Speaker 5: JJ tweets love you Viking Nation, I'll be back in 675 00:28:18,028 --> 00:28:20,828 Speaker 5: no time, and then he tweets a'mor fati, which is 676 00:28:20,948 --> 00:28:24,348 Speaker 5: Latin Latin for loving fate like you are the hand 677 00:28:24,348 --> 00:28:26,028 Speaker 5: that your dealt is the one that you roll with 678 00:28:26,068 --> 00:28:28,988 Speaker 5: a very positive attitude. Every single piece of body we've 679 00:28:28,988 --> 00:28:31,188 Speaker 5: ever gotten from him since we started watching him in college, 680 00:28:31,188 --> 00:28:35,468 Speaker 5: so annoying bummer and call it whatever you want. I 681 00:28:35,508 --> 00:28:37,068 Speaker 5: want him back as soon as possible because I think 682 00:28:37,108 --> 00:28:37,908 Speaker 5: the Vikings need him. 683 00:28:38,228 --> 00:28:40,948 Speaker 3: We are thrilled now to have two members of the 684 00:28:40,948 --> 00:28:44,348 Speaker 3: Colts Organization joining us for its as vice chair and owner, 685 00:28:44,628 --> 00:28:48,828 Speaker 3: Kaylin Jackson, along with veteran Kenny Moore, the second joining 686 00:28:48,908 --> 00:28:51,468 Speaker 3: us today friends of our show, have to talk all 687 00:28:51,508 --> 00:28:53,788 Speaker 3: things Colts, both on the field and off the field. 688 00:28:53,828 --> 00:28:57,668 Speaker 3: Good morning to you both, Good morning, good morning, awesome. 689 00:28:57,708 --> 00:29:00,548 Speaker 3: So the Colts, as we know, have a wonderful initiative 690 00:29:00,588 --> 00:29:03,668 Speaker 3: called Kicking the Stigma. You can see it's son Kenny's 691 00:29:03,628 --> 00:29:05,948 Speaker 3: shirt there, which we're all excited to hear about. But 692 00:29:06,388 --> 00:29:08,668 Speaker 3: let's cover Colts Camp first and then we're going to 693 00:29:08,708 --> 00:29:11,388 Speaker 3: take it to Kicking the Stigma. I think you can 694 00:29:11,428 --> 00:29:14,628 Speaker 3: both speak to this, Kailan first, as a family, as 695 00:29:14,668 --> 00:29:17,428 Speaker 3: a Colts fan, and you know, knowing Indianapolis as well 696 00:29:17,468 --> 00:29:19,828 Speaker 3: as you do. How thrilling was it to see Anthony 697 00:29:19,948 --> 00:29:22,308 Speaker 3: Richardson back on the field, back in game action for 698 00:29:22,348 --> 00:29:24,268 Speaker 3: the first time since his injury last weekend. 699 00:29:25,308 --> 00:29:27,908 Speaker 10: It was so exciting, and I think you know, when 700 00:29:27,988 --> 00:29:30,628 Speaker 10: something like that happens, you count down the days and 701 00:29:30,748 --> 00:29:34,148 Speaker 10: you know him more than anyone was waiting to get 702 00:29:34,188 --> 00:29:37,188 Speaker 10: back out there. But he looks great, and I know 703 00:29:37,268 --> 00:29:39,668 Speaker 10: everyone's excited to have him back in the locker room 704 00:29:39,708 --> 00:29:41,508 Speaker 10: as well. I mean, he was a leader even when 705 00:29:41,548 --> 00:29:43,628 Speaker 10: he was on the sideline, and so for him to 706 00:29:43,628 --> 00:29:45,468 Speaker 10: be able to be back on the field is so exciting. 707 00:29:45,508 --> 00:29:49,428 Speaker 10: I know the guys are pumped. I think, like many 708 00:29:49,748 --> 00:29:51,508 Speaker 10: like Kenny, we're glad to have Kenny back, and so 709 00:29:51,548 --> 00:29:54,988 Speaker 10: many guys back. It's a young team and I think 710 00:29:54,988 --> 00:29:56,388 Speaker 10: there's just a lot to be excited about. 711 00:29:58,068 --> 00:29:58,388 Speaker 6: Kenny. 712 00:29:58,388 --> 00:30:00,108 Speaker 7: You've become one of the faces of the Colts. It's 713 00:30:00,108 --> 00:30:02,348 Speaker 7: so great to have you here on the show today. 714 00:30:02,348 --> 00:30:03,148 Speaker 7: And you had a really. 715 00:30:03,028 --> 00:30:05,508 Speaker 6: Cool interception last week of those tip drill types. 716 00:30:05,868 --> 00:30:07,788 Speaker 7: I know it's just the preseason, but it still has 717 00:30:07,788 --> 00:30:09,748 Speaker 7: to get the blood going here. Can you take us 718 00:30:09,748 --> 00:30:11,308 Speaker 7: through that play and how cool it was to get 719 00:30:11,348 --> 00:30:12,068 Speaker 7: the defense going. 720 00:30:14,068 --> 00:30:16,308 Speaker 9: I mean, even if it doesn't count, it's still counts. 721 00:30:16,988 --> 00:30:22,148 Speaker 9: The confidence, the momentum, the hype and joy on the saline. 722 00:30:23,508 --> 00:30:26,028 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a man and man coverage and. 723 00:30:26,028 --> 00:30:29,508 Speaker 9: I'll see the back he's looking out of the backfield 724 00:30:30,268 --> 00:30:34,148 Speaker 9: trying to get the first down. He's bobbling the ball 725 00:30:34,348 --> 00:30:36,868 Speaker 9: and I just did my best to secure it first, 726 00:30:36,948 --> 00:30:38,788 Speaker 9: and obviously I'm trying to get up and go. So 727 00:30:40,308 --> 00:30:42,268 Speaker 9: it was good to have that type of momentum for 728 00:30:42,308 --> 00:30:44,548 Speaker 9: the team, and obviously we had a couple more. 729 00:30:47,068 --> 00:30:49,508 Speaker 5: Well, a question for both of you. You look at 730 00:30:49,508 --> 00:30:51,788 Speaker 5: your phone right now in August, you turn on the 731 00:30:51,828 --> 00:30:56,708 Speaker 5: TV and it's just Texans, Texans, Texans, Texans everywhere. Oh 732 00:30:56,748 --> 00:31:00,228 Speaker 5: my goodness, so much Houston, Texas. Everybody loves the Texans. 733 00:31:00,588 --> 00:31:05,308 Speaker 5: Interestingly enough, the schedule makers showed zero chick and has 734 00:31:05,468 --> 00:31:09,868 Speaker 5: Colts Texans week one, Week one my friends at. 735 00:31:09,748 --> 00:31:10,428 Speaker 2: Home for you? 736 00:31:10,828 --> 00:31:12,708 Speaker 5: So how do you feel about this? It's a long 737 00:31:12,748 --> 00:31:16,388 Speaker 5: time in division rival, but you've got CJ. Stroud, Anthony Richardson. 738 00:31:16,428 --> 00:31:18,988 Speaker 5: Things are going in new directions for both teams. What's 739 00:31:18,988 --> 00:31:21,028 Speaker 5: the state of the Colts Texans ravel right now? Because 740 00:31:21,028 --> 00:31:22,148 Speaker 5: you're gonna see him a few weeks. 741 00:31:23,548 --> 00:31:28,148 Speaker 9: You want to take Againny, Sure, it's a football game 742 00:31:28,148 --> 00:31:30,708 Speaker 9: and it's week one football games home. 743 00:31:31,148 --> 00:31:31,708 Speaker 2: Ready to go. 744 00:31:31,988 --> 00:31:34,668 Speaker 9: I don't really look at it, as you know, going 745 00:31:34,708 --> 00:31:36,188 Speaker 9: back and forth. I just see that as a football 746 00:31:36,268 --> 00:31:38,868 Speaker 9: game is just as important as week too, and audio 747 00:31:38,868 --> 00:31:41,668 Speaker 9: other games, so so it's a week for me to 748 00:31:42,548 --> 00:31:46,388 Speaker 9: prepare and get ready for and I'm feeling very opportunistic. 749 00:31:46,868 --> 00:31:51,348 Speaker 10: Well yeah, I mean thing for us it's it's it's 750 00:31:51,428 --> 00:31:53,588 Speaker 10: week one, like you said. But I think it's exciting. 751 00:31:53,628 --> 00:31:55,748 Speaker 10: I mean, it's an exciting time for the league, Like 752 00:31:55,868 --> 00:31:57,708 Speaker 10: we give a young team, like I said, but it's 753 00:31:57,748 --> 00:32:00,948 Speaker 10: fun to see these young quarterbacks, you know, making their way. 754 00:32:00,988 --> 00:32:04,108 Speaker 10: And I know that you know, Ar and CJ have 755 00:32:04,108 --> 00:32:08,148 Speaker 10: a good relationships. So I think it'll be a fun game. Obviously, 756 00:32:09,508 --> 00:32:10,988 Speaker 10: we hope that we come out on top. 757 00:32:12,148 --> 00:32:16,068 Speaker 8: Yeah, and Kaitlyn, there's another game being played off the field. 758 00:32:16,108 --> 00:32:20,028 Speaker 8: And you know, kicking the stigma is a crucial initiative. Now, 759 00:32:20,068 --> 00:32:22,908 Speaker 8: how does it help raise awareness about mental health and 760 00:32:23,268 --> 00:32:26,388 Speaker 8: work to eliminate the stigma that is so often, you know, 761 00:32:26,508 --> 00:32:28,908 Speaker 8: surrounding mental health disorders. 762 00:32:30,828 --> 00:32:33,508 Speaker 10: Yeah, so we started this initiative in twenty twenty. Ironically, 763 00:32:33,588 --> 00:32:35,948 Speaker 10: we had planned started before COVID hit, and then, as 764 00:32:35,948 --> 00:32:39,668 Speaker 10: we all know, the issue became that more concerning for 765 00:32:39,708 --> 00:32:42,988 Speaker 10: everyone and for us, it's something that's a personal issue 766 00:32:43,148 --> 00:32:46,068 Speaker 10: for us. You know, we've lived experience with it with 767 00:32:46,068 --> 00:32:49,508 Speaker 10: my dad and with myself. I've lived with anxiety, my 768 00:32:49,508 --> 00:32:52,188 Speaker 10: whole life, and we talked very openly about it, and 769 00:32:52,188 --> 00:32:54,228 Speaker 10: that was kind of the way we began, which is 770 00:32:54,268 --> 00:32:57,788 Speaker 10: this shouldn't be something that is in the dark anymore. 771 00:32:57,788 --> 00:32:59,468 Speaker 10: It should be out in the open. There should be 772 00:32:59,508 --> 00:33:03,428 Speaker 10: something that is talked about, and we really put resources 773 00:33:03,508 --> 00:33:09,308 Speaker 10: toward equitable access to resources, peer to peer resources, awareness 774 00:33:09,308 --> 00:33:12,588 Speaker 10: and stigma obviously, but really exciting thing last two years 775 00:33:12,628 --> 00:33:15,068 Speaker 10: is we've had a week at camp where we are 776 00:33:15,108 --> 00:33:18,668 Speaker 10: focusing on it with our players, and we've chosen it 777 00:33:18,708 --> 00:33:21,508 Speaker 10: to be the week that we've been in joint practices. 778 00:33:21,548 --> 00:33:23,388 Speaker 10: So last year it was with the Bears, this year 779 00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:26,108 Speaker 10: it's with the Cardinals, and it's just been a really 780 00:33:26,108 --> 00:33:28,748 Speaker 10: wonderful thing to see those teams come alongside us and 781 00:33:28,788 --> 00:33:31,468 Speaker 10: support this initiative with us because they see how important 782 00:33:31,508 --> 00:33:33,828 Speaker 10: it is as well. So, as you said, Kenny's wearing 783 00:33:34,188 --> 00:33:36,468 Speaker 10: our version of the shirt, and this is the version 784 00:33:36,948 --> 00:33:40,428 Speaker 10: of the Cardinals shirt. They'll be wearing them the game 785 00:33:41,268 --> 00:33:44,188 Speaker 10: and also the coaches will be wearing them in practice 786 00:33:44,908 --> 00:33:47,548 Speaker 10: this week, and it's just a way to talk to 787 00:33:47,628 --> 00:33:50,468 Speaker 10: show people that you're not alone, to show people that 788 00:33:51,668 --> 00:33:54,748 Speaker 10: you can redefine masculinity in a lot of ways and 789 00:33:54,788 --> 00:33:57,708 Speaker 10: that masculinely doesn't have to be not being open and 790 00:33:57,748 --> 00:34:00,068 Speaker 10: being vulnerable a lot of things you're going through. So 791 00:34:00,548 --> 00:34:03,508 Speaker 10: just really wonderful to be able to have the support 792 00:34:03,548 --> 00:34:07,748 Speaker 10: of other teams to do this together. And yesterday we 793 00:34:07,828 --> 00:34:10,988 Speaker 10: actually had Brian Dawkins come in and speak with the team. 794 00:34:11,508 --> 00:34:14,188 Speaker 10: I led a conversation with him with the team and 795 00:34:14,228 --> 00:34:18,388 Speaker 10: it was super impactful and powerful. His message is so strong, 796 00:34:18,548 --> 00:34:22,228 Speaker 10: and his ability to be open about what his struggles 797 00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:24,908 Speaker 10: were I think was really impactful for the team. 798 00:34:26,668 --> 00:34:29,268 Speaker 7: That's one of the most ferocious players on the field, 799 00:34:29,268 --> 00:34:31,188 Speaker 7: so for him to come out and show that vulnerability 800 00:34:31,228 --> 00:34:32,988 Speaker 7: is so important for the players to see. We had 801 00:34:32,988 --> 00:34:37,268 Speaker 7: Solomon Thomas on our show last week speaking similarly about 802 00:34:37,308 --> 00:34:39,788 Speaker 7: you know, you see me as this Greek god and 803 00:34:39,828 --> 00:34:42,268 Speaker 7: this statue physically, but you don't know what I've been 804 00:34:42,268 --> 00:34:44,308 Speaker 7: going through and it's okay to talk about it. Kenny, 805 00:34:44,508 --> 00:34:45,868 Speaker 7: you're an active player in the league, one of the 806 00:34:45,948 --> 00:34:48,028 Speaker 7: leaders of the league, and truly a leader in that. 807 00:34:47,988 --> 00:34:48,788 Speaker 6: Colts locker room. 808 00:34:49,028 --> 00:34:51,308 Speaker 7: How often are those conversations being had and what can 809 00:34:51,348 --> 00:34:54,308 Speaker 7: we do at home to help, you know, I guess 810 00:34:54,308 --> 00:34:56,868 Speaker 7: remove the stigma, but also you know, really lean into 811 00:34:56,948 --> 00:34:58,308 Speaker 7: mental health is just health. 812 00:34:59,868 --> 00:35:00,268 Speaker 2: I think. 813 00:35:00,588 --> 00:35:03,868 Speaker 9: You know, being on a team full of players, you 814 00:35:03,908 --> 00:35:06,188 Speaker 9: have certain guys that you'd like to talk to, and 815 00:35:06,228 --> 00:35:08,428 Speaker 9: I think that's the same way how it is in life. 816 00:35:08,748 --> 00:35:10,988 Speaker 9: You have certain family members, you have certain friends outside 817 00:35:10,988 --> 00:35:12,708 Speaker 9: of the football that you like to, you know, go 818 00:35:12,788 --> 00:35:13,228 Speaker 9: and talk. 819 00:35:13,108 --> 00:35:14,068 Speaker 2: To and be open with. 820 00:35:15,548 --> 00:35:18,028 Speaker 9: You know, teammates that you trust, Teammates that you've been 821 00:35:18,068 --> 00:35:22,348 Speaker 9: to battle with, Teammates who have been in similar situations 822 00:35:22,348 --> 00:35:26,868 Speaker 9: as you. You do your best to give certain advice 823 00:35:27,028 --> 00:35:30,388 Speaker 9: or just a helping hand, just being a good listener. 824 00:35:31,548 --> 00:35:33,508 Speaker 9: That's Those are the people that I like to talk to. 825 00:35:33,788 --> 00:35:37,468 Speaker 9: So I have a couple in the locker room. Those 826 00:35:37,588 --> 00:35:40,788 Speaker 9: talks I wouldn't say happened all the time, but I 827 00:35:40,788 --> 00:35:42,908 Speaker 9: think whenever they do happen, it's. 828 00:35:42,788 --> 00:35:43,588 Speaker 2: Always perfect time. 829 00:35:44,628 --> 00:35:47,068 Speaker 3: Just knowing that those people are available to you, Kenny, though, 830 00:35:47,268 --> 00:35:48,948 Speaker 3: is truly what's important. 831 00:35:49,188 --> 00:35:50,308 Speaker 4: You guys are doing awesome. 832 00:35:50,068 --> 00:35:52,428 Speaker 3: Stuff because people go to football because they love it, 833 00:35:52,468 --> 00:35:53,388 Speaker 3: they need an escape. 834 00:35:53,388 --> 00:35:54,908 Speaker 4: But to know that they also. 835 00:35:54,908 --> 00:35:57,188 Speaker 3: Have a place where if you're sitting on the couch 836 00:35:57,188 --> 00:35:59,428 Speaker 3: of somebody and you can have those conversations Kenny, like 837 00:35:59,468 --> 00:36:00,908 Speaker 3: you do in the locker room. I think it's good 838 00:36:00,948 --> 00:36:03,988 Speaker 3: for people to know that before we let you go, Kenny, 839 00:36:04,028 --> 00:36:06,828 Speaker 3: you brought some joy to people this summer close to you. 840 00:36:06,908 --> 00:36:10,108 Speaker 3: But also when you shared this video of you surprising 841 00:36:10,148 --> 00:36:12,348 Speaker 3: your mom with a new favorites. 842 00:36:12,588 --> 00:36:15,068 Speaker 4: Oh what's your favorite? What was this like for you? 843 00:36:15,348 --> 00:36:15,628 Speaker 2: Good? 844 00:36:18,388 --> 00:36:20,748 Speaker 9: I honestly can't even describe, you know, just watching this 845 00:36:20,868 --> 00:36:23,068 Speaker 9: video again, I haven't watched it in a little while, 846 00:36:23,108 --> 00:36:25,748 Speaker 9: but just seeing the emotions that my mother had. 847 00:36:26,108 --> 00:36:28,508 Speaker 2: I'm very similar to my mother, so. 848 00:36:28,428 --> 00:36:32,708 Speaker 9: I really didn't know how she would respond in this manner. However, 849 00:36:32,788 --> 00:36:34,148 Speaker 9: in the video, I thought she was going to run 850 00:36:34,188 --> 00:36:34,388 Speaker 9: out of. 851 00:36:34,388 --> 00:36:34,988 Speaker 2: The front door. 852 00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:39,268 Speaker 9: Look, but just seeing her and talking to her now, 853 00:36:39,308 --> 00:36:41,988 Speaker 9: you know, just asking about the house, it just seems 854 00:36:42,028 --> 00:36:45,108 Speaker 9: like she's in paradise each day, and it's a dream 855 00:36:45,108 --> 00:36:45,548 Speaker 9: come true. 856 00:36:45,548 --> 00:36:45,788 Speaker 2: For me. 857 00:36:46,148 --> 00:36:48,788 Speaker 9: It's always been a purpose of mom and a journey 858 00:36:48,788 --> 00:36:53,828 Speaker 9: and a good situation to go out and work my 859 00:36:53,828 --> 00:36:55,548 Speaker 9: hardest to be able to give my mom, you know, 860 00:36:55,588 --> 00:36:56,748 Speaker 9: some happy days. 861 00:36:56,828 --> 00:36:57,588 Speaker 4: So schedule you. 862 00:36:57,548 --> 00:36:59,788 Speaker 10: Told me was doing it before he did it, and 863 00:36:59,828 --> 00:37:01,268 Speaker 10: I was like, I can't wait to see the video. 864 00:37:02,188 --> 00:37:03,428 Speaker 10: You what a special cool thing. 865 00:37:03,508 --> 00:37:05,748 Speaker 3: You pull off a surprise very well, because it seems 866 00:37:05,788 --> 00:37:07,348 Speaker 3: like you made her get all the way into this 867 00:37:07,508 --> 00:37:11,868 Speaker 3: house and then you told her it was hers right. 868 00:37:11,988 --> 00:37:16,788 Speaker 2: So in May. So so at the. 869 00:37:16,748 --> 00:37:19,108 Speaker 9: Beginning of this year, you know, my mother she was 870 00:37:19,108 --> 00:37:22,588 Speaker 9: looking at houses and everything, and you know, I had 871 00:37:22,628 --> 00:37:24,628 Speaker 9: to come up on free agency, so I had a 872 00:37:24,628 --> 00:37:26,508 Speaker 9: lot on my plate. So I was like, mom, let 873 00:37:26,508 --> 00:37:30,788 Speaker 9: me just focus on ball, focus on work. And so, 874 00:37:31,028 --> 00:37:33,468 Speaker 9: you know, we get back to the colts and. 875 00:37:33,148 --> 00:37:35,148 Speaker 2: In May we ended up. 876 00:37:35,708 --> 00:37:37,588 Speaker 9: She ended up looking at this house and so on 877 00:37:37,628 --> 00:37:41,828 Speaker 9: the listing it didn't have many pictures, and so I said, yeah, 878 00:37:41,868 --> 00:37:42,348 Speaker 9: you can go. 879 00:37:42,268 --> 00:37:44,708 Speaker 2: And visit this house with a realtor. She did. 880 00:37:45,388 --> 00:37:47,548 Speaker 9: I went and play basketball Butler with some of the guys. 881 00:37:47,588 --> 00:37:48,308 Speaker 2: Don't tell Kayln. 882 00:37:53,228 --> 00:37:56,948 Speaker 9: And so she was bowing my phone up the realtor, 883 00:37:57,508 --> 00:38:01,468 Speaker 9: and so I said, you know, let me get back 884 00:38:01,508 --> 00:38:05,388 Speaker 9: with you. YadA, YadA, YadA. So I told the we 885 00:38:05,388 --> 00:38:08,148 Speaker 9: can go ahead and do it. However, my sisters, I 886 00:38:08,188 --> 00:38:12,028 Speaker 9: have sis sisters, they don't live in Valdosta. I wanted 887 00:38:12,068 --> 00:38:14,108 Speaker 9: to make this this moment very special for my mother. 888 00:38:14,188 --> 00:38:17,588 Speaker 9: I wanted to make this moment special for my family. 889 00:38:17,628 --> 00:38:20,708 Speaker 9: And so every year I host the camp back at 890 00:38:20,748 --> 00:38:24,188 Speaker 9: home and this weekend, the weekend that we had at. 891 00:38:25,028 --> 00:38:27,388 Speaker 9: My entire family was there, my sisters were there, and 892 00:38:27,468 --> 00:38:30,788 Speaker 9: so we just came up with a plan to surprise her. 893 00:38:30,948 --> 00:38:32,308 Speaker 2: I told her, you. 894 00:38:32,308 --> 00:38:34,908 Speaker 9: Know, the weekend at a camp, you know, we can 895 00:38:34,948 --> 00:38:37,628 Speaker 9: start be looking at houses. And so she said okay, 896 00:38:38,108 --> 00:38:41,508 Speaker 9: and so we went around town. 897 00:38:41,708 --> 00:38:42,828 Speaker 2: This this house. 898 00:38:42,868 --> 00:38:47,748 Speaker 9: Ended up, you know, being available, and everybody was inside and. 899 00:38:47,788 --> 00:38:51,108 Speaker 3: Was SURPRISERR Oh my gosh, Caitlen, you look so proud 900 00:38:51,588 --> 00:38:52,588 Speaker 3: of Kenny to have them. 901 00:38:52,548 --> 00:38:53,308 Speaker 4: In your organization. 902 00:38:53,428 --> 00:38:54,988 Speaker 3: You guys should both be proud of what you're doing 903 00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:58,068 Speaker 3: with kicking the stigma. Truly, two wonderful members of the 904 00:38:58,068 --> 00:38:59,948 Speaker 3: Colts organization coming on our show. 905 00:38:59,988 --> 00:39:02,708 Speaker 4: We appreciate you guys so much. Kicking the stigma. Everybody