WEBVTT - Meghan Linsey 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:16.239 Carola. She's a queen of talking. He was, so she's 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.160 on the yes, actually got the snoop on the on side. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:29.760 No one can do within clie my Carola, Carola. No 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:36.320 one can do win quiet like Carol Carola. Hey, y'all, 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.800 welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.519 I know music, I know people, and I know the 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.440 questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.479 heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.240 could be adult content. I have the beautiful, talented, lovely 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:58.120 Megan Lindsay joining me this episode. We talk all about 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.880 her career in music and her life she believes in. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.080 She came in freaking first place on can You Duet 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.119 with her former partner from Steel Magnolia on CMT. That's 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.360 how she kicked off her career in country music. She 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.840 got second place on the Voice. Blake Shelton was her 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.040 team captain. She is crushing it. Just releasing new music 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.479 that is so good, a new music video with a 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.120 very famous celebrity cameo. So you guys get excited and 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:31.280 welcome Megan Lindsay. Okay, Megan Lindsay and the busy you've 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:32.959 got some pink in your hair right now? I do. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.080 I am purple. I don't know. I keep color under 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.640 my um my sink at home, just like color and 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.800 like what do you call it? Um? I can't think 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:51.080 my brain. Um what's it called? Hair dye? No color 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:55.640 and color? And to keep toner's under my sink. So 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.720 then I just put it in my conditioner and then 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.520 whatever it turns out, I just go with it. So 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.560 you have really really blonde hears it hard to keep 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.440 that up? How often do you have to do it? 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.520 Like every four weeks? It's awesome. It's your signature to 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.600 love it. I love it. I can't. Like I've tried 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.840 to go dark. It doesn't work. You're you're too bright 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.560 to be dark. Not that dark isn't beautiful, because beautiful 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.440 dark is beautiful, but you it works some people. But 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.800 this works for you because not everyone can do platinum. Yeah, 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.000 I guess. Yeah, Okay, So I want to start off 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.040 with a few questions and then just tell me what 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.760 the first thing that comes to mind. Okay, if you 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:36.120 could come back as any artist in their heyday, any 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.480 time period, he would have been why oh man? Um, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.440 probably Dolly does every girl say this. I bet every 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.280 girl no, haven't. This is only the second time I've 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.480 asked this question. That's you and Frankie Vaaler Okay, cool, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:51.400 So he would probably wouldn't say, Um, you know, I 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.080 think she just had such She had the career that 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.920 I dream of having. Okay, tell me why, because I 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.080 think she got to kind of really just ride that 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.880 line of the doing country music and doing pop music 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.679 and movies at movies and actors, like, she just did everything, 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.040 and she was such a smart businesswoman and um, she 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:13.080 just really knew what she wanted and she went for it. Yeah. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:18.040 I think that's rad. It's totally rad. I love that. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.639 because I think you should do acting. I'm working on that. Actually, 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:25.200 you are details that I can give you a few details. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:30.160 What are they? Because you're music video exs and friends? Wow? Hot, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.400 hot hot, And I mean I feel like that's some 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.200 acting in there. We'll get to your cameo guests. It 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.040 was a bachelor, get to that later, But tell me 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.080 about the acting. It's fun. You know. I got offered 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.320 a part on Broadway and I started, um, did you 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.640 take it? Well, it's a long sworded tail, It's it's 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.400 we've moved on to another another thing. But um, I 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.120 started taking acting lessons like about a year ago and 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.080 with this coaching Bridget Burger, who actually ended up directing 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.760 my music video. But um, yeah, I don't know. I 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.960 like it. I really like it. I never thought about 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.760 doing it, and a bunch of people have always said, hey, 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.280 you should probably do some acting, and I was like, 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:10.280 I don't know, but but I like it. I enjoy it. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.160 So we'll see what happens. But I've got a few 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:16.120 few things cooking, some irons in the fire. Yeah, okay, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.120 I can see you having a career like Dolly. Seriously. Well, 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.000 I hope. So I'm working on it. I'm not getting 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.600 any younger. Yeah, but you know, I really don't think 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.360 that matters. I don't either. Everyone always put this pressure 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.239 on age, and I used to think age was everything 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.359 when I first moved to town. I really don't believe that. 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.120 I believe your destiny is your destiny, and as long 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:34.640 as you keep doing it, it will happen how it's 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.279 supposed to. I think, So do you I do? I 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.080 really do, I really do. I got um. You know, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.359 we all have our moments, I think, especially as women 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.239 in this town where you're like, oh god, I'm thirty 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.960 and I'm thirty one. Oh God, put so much pressure 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.200 on you though, But I yeah, I think that I'm 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.880 only getting better, and I agree. I feel like I'm 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.240 kind of at my best at this point. So and 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:01.880 everything mentally, physically, the whole thing, like you are just 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.320 radiating like you you and another thing. I'm just some 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:06.919 of the things I want to talk about. You have 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.800 been speaking your mind, like how you feel from your heart, 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.720 and I feel like a lot of people don't do that. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.240 And you said, you said that. We are at a party, 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.200 and you finally like, I don't what did you say exactly? 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:18.839 It's like, how did you get to this place? I 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.520 think it just comes from well a growing up and 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.360 figure out who you are and what you believe and 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.320 what you want and what you don't like, and you know, 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.239 there's a lot that goes into it. But I think 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.440 ultimately for me, it's like being an independent artist, like 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.800 I don't have anybody to answer to. I don't have 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.600 anything to lose, you know, And I think of liberating. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.440 It's very liberating and it's very um I think when 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.960 you start to do that and you start to see 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.599 the effects of that of just being like completely authentic 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.160 and saying exactly what you want to say and just 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.200 being really honest. I think that you realize, oh, this 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.920 really resonates with people totally, and people are really into this. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.720 So it's like then it's like almost like affirmation, like Okay, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.520 I'm doing the right thing, Like I need to stay 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.960 on this track because this is what's real. Yeah, because 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.760 it almost takes it falling apart and having to get 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.280 to that place where you are on your own because 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.240 you've had record deals, you've had hit singles, you've obviously 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.600 you were runner up on the Voice you won Can 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.120 you do it with your former duet partner back? And 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.760 Still Magnoia is so much stuff, but like and you've 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.160 always had a huge team of people probably telling you 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.159 how you need to be presented right right. Yeah, it 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.560 was like that, I think up until like when Still 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.880 Magnoia broke up, and um we actually continued to tour 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.000 after we left the record label for a couple of years, 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.720 but it was, um yeah, I was liberating not having 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.240 all of that and just all of those you know 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.239 demands and the you know telling me how to brush 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.000 my teeth, like what you know, whatever it was, it 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.240 was like it's like, oh wow, I can actually like 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.280 just be me. And so I think that being me 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.400 it really happened when I finally completely broke off from 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.159 the band and started doing my own thing. It really 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.680 allowed me to just, I don't know, just to be 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.679 able to explore and figure it out and like be like, Okay, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.040 this is who I am. Because you have a monster voice. 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:06.360 Your voice is huge. It is like it's so soulful, 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.560 and then this range and rasp that is out of 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.840 this world. Like seriously, it is so soulful. How how 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.800 has this journey led you to your sound? Like, what 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.280 would you say being you is officially now that you've 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.679 had all of this exploration. Um, that's a good question. 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.480 Uh you know what. I think that a lot of 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.320 it is just has come with writing writing songs and 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.120 so just feeling like I can write about the things 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.480 I'm I'm passionate about and the things I want to 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.840 write about, and then and then just in the studio 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:39.720 just be able to let go and just really sing 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.400 because I feel like when you're in a duet, you're 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.840 always a duo. You're always you know, trying to accommodate 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.560 the other person and you're trying not to. I'm the 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.600 type of person that I'm always very careful, like I 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.440 don't want to overstep somebody, or I always want people 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.800 to feel like they're important, and like I just kind 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.200 of I'm like that in every situation in life, and 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.880 so when it comes to singing with another person, I'm like, oh, 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.440 I don't want to be too much. I don't want 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.240 to be to this or to that. And it's like 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.960 when you finally just don't care and you're like, I'm 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.320 just gonna be me. I'm just gonna let it out. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:16.520 Yeah yeah, right then you know, then it's like, wow, Okay, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.280 this is how I'm supposed to be singing. This is 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.960 like this is my voice. Yeah, and so I got 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.480 It's just been I don't know, it's been a journey 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.760 like figuring that out. But I feel like I'm finally, like, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.880 especially with this new single and the new record that's 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.920 coming out, it's like, Okay, figure this is me, you know, 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.240 like a film. So um, good about it. So I 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.800 love that. Thanks. So you're from New Orleans? Did that 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:45.240 play into your who you are as an artist? For sure? Yeah? 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.120 I think, Um, For me, it was like I grew 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.840 up in bands, singing in bands, running bands from the 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.679 time I was like fourteen, and so, um, I was 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.760 always playing with guys that were like in their fifties 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.360 who have been playing in New Orleans for years. And 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.079 so I feel like I learned a lot through that. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.880 And um, I played, you know, I played everything from 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.120 church to the bars at that age, and so that's 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.960 an education when you're fourteen, it is New Orleans to 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.360 learn a lot. I mean a lot, I'm sure, And 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.160 there's a lot, you know. It's it's interesting growing up 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.439 in a place that's so multicultural and there's just so 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.719 much um there's so much music, and it's just so 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.760 different from anything else in the world. And so I 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.760 think I learned a lot about singing from you know, 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.880 just soulful singing. Really And you said, like your inspirations 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:41.440 are Ritha Whitney the soul, Yeah, I think with some 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.640 dolly Yeah. I think it's a matter of like I 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:49.400 was always attracted to big voices obviously, and I was 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.000 voice or did you develop it? Um? I think I 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.199 think I was born with a lot of it. I mean, 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.680 I think it's obviously developed over time. But you know, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.720 I used to screech up in my room. She's trying 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.280 to hit notes. Yeah. My mom was like, um, okay, 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:08.160 that's good. So you would literally like practice hitting those 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.040 insane notes oh every day. Yeah. I'd come home and 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.320 from school and it's like the first thing I would 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.480 do really go up in my room and just sing 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.600 for like two hours or something. It was just all 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.360 I wanted to do. Ever, But I, um my mom 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.760 bought me a karaoke machine and I was like ten, 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.920 And I think that that like really set it off. 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.600 I was like, okay, cool, because I didn't. I didn't. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.400 I didn't play an instrument. And I think a lot 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.439 of that probably has to do with growing up, Like 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.960 I just never had a good lesson and I was 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.800 just I was just frustrated with it. And I was like, 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.719 I just don't think this is for me. I just 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:46.200 wanted to sing. Your instrument was your voice? Right? Yeah? Totally? Okay. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:50.560 So you grew up in New Orleans. What was your upbringing? Like, Like, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.320 was music a big part of your family? Are you 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.600 the only one that sings? Um? You know, my mom 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.480 sang when she was a kid, and like her and 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.400 her sister kind of had a duo and they did 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.080 more like gospel type music. She grew up in Kentucky. 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.600 My grandmother sang. My grandma was like kind of a 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.280 soul gospel singer. Um. So it kind of runs in 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.600 the family and pursued it. Nobody really pursued it. Yeah. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.800 It's kind of a thing where my mom was like, oh, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:16.720 you want to sing, cool, let's do it, you know, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.360 and my parents were really supportive, and so that was nice. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.600 Do you have I do? I have a brother and 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.680 two sisters. Nice? Where are they? My brothers in New 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.000 Orleans and my two sisters are in Lafitte, just like 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.280 the Bayou. Nice. Everybody's down in the byre cajun all 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.360 over your blood. Yeah, you know what, It's funny because 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.800 it's uh, my parents both moved there from other places, 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:45.400 so I feel like it's just by association kind of 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.360 picked up some of that stuff. And do they sing? 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:52.000 Are they You're the only one? Um? No, they don't sing? Okay, Yeah, 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.600 I'm kind of like the lone wolf here, I guess. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.520 So you were playing shows doing all this. You even 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.400 opened for Lake Shelton, which I think is funny when 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.560 you're like four to yeah, when I was a kid. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.400 That is really funny, your whole voice experience, which I 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:05.840 want to get to after we talk about can you 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.040 do it? It's crazy to me though, because Blake recognized 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.760 you when you auditioned for the voice, Like he turned around. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.680 He's like, oh my god, I know you. Isn't that funny? Yeah, 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.719 so that's a real um yeah, and like I knew, 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.240 I knew he would recognize me when he turned around. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.400 I was so nervous. I mean, I was like, I 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.960 think when you do something like that, it's nerve racking 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.480 under what Yeah, well the pressure of like what if 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.000 a chair doesn't turn around? That was terrifying. But all 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.760 of them turned around, but Blake, which he ended up 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.839 stealing you later, Yeah, which is the best. It's so funny. Man, 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.200 I just was terrified. So I don't know, I don't 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.959 really remember how I was feeling other than scared to death. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:45.000 But I think it's worse when you've had a career 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.120 because you're like, yeah, it is, and it's and it's 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.880 also like you you feel like, oh god, people know 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.240 who I am and you've already had success, so it's like, yeah, 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.560 you know how you know how this play is out too, 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.240 So I'm like, I honestly felt in that moment, like, 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:02.960 if I don't get a chair, my career is over. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.480 You don't even though it's probably you know, you can't 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.280 think like that, and I know it's not true. It's 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.560 just that's all I could think in that moment. I'm like, Okay, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.040 they're not turning around because it took them forever to 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.200 turn around. They didn't turn around to very the worst 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.280 nerve racking. I think they do this on purpose. I 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.360 don't know that drama. It's just well, I mean, obviously 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.319 they're gonna turn around your voice. You can't not turn 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.480 around for your voice. Well, but I feel like there's 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.560 so many good singers on there that don't get a chair. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.600 So I'm like, what if I'm not what they're looking 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.880 for today? You know, I don't know. You just never know. 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:35.000 It's all subjective. So I was scared, but I was 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.319 glad they turned around. And it's kind of cool because 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.199 you started off your career with can you do it? 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.080 But you're in a duet do it? So you had 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.480 like the support of someone else, right? Was that? Did 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.400 that make that competition easier to go through? Because you 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.439 had someone to lean on, Josh, who you met singing 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:56.120 karaoke in Nashville, which is awesome, so funny. Um, those 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.800 stories really do happen like it were funny. Yeah, because 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.120 it's like I grew well, it's like my mother bought 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.160 me a karaoke machine, which is kind of what started 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:04.720 this whole thing. And then it's like and then I 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.400 was in bands, and I moved to Nashville and I'm 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.600 like back to singing karaoke again as a job. You 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.640 know what money you finding your duo partner, right, which 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.640 leads to a record. It's just you know, like you 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.520 can't you can't go through life like being like, oh 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.240 this is how I'm going to do it, because it's 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:24.920 always so messed up. Yeah it's crazy. So um but yeah, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.480 so we did. We ended up. Um we got together 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.160 and um we decided to audition for the show called 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.840 Canny Duet which is on CMT, and um, we were like, 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.280 the thing was, we had just gotten back from London 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.320 record Like, we went to London and recorded and we 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.080 were like an indie rock band is what we considered ourselves. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.280 So we were like we're indie rock duo, right, and 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:49.000 then we get this London. How London we had a manager. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.480 This is we have a crazy story, but I don't know. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.400 We met this guy who was a manager. It was 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.640 from London, and um, he was like, I'm going to 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.640 send you over there to do some recording. You know. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.720 This guy was me a favor and we went. We 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.800 actually went to London with five dollars to our name, 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.320 which is insane when you go international travel, Like I 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.240 want to go with more than five dollars cash in 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.240 your pocket. Um, But we were like, you know, twenty 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.400 and didn't care. So we went over there and we 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.880 recorded with this guy, Fraser T. Smith, who actually has 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.720 won like Grammys for like the adult record and stuff 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.680 since then, which is hilarious. Um. So we recorded a 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.920 couple of sides with him and and just that was 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.840 kind of what we thought are thing was. Yeah, And 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.400 when we got back, it just didn't. It wasn't a 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.600 good situation with the manager, and so we parted ways. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.880 And I mean literally, Josh was back to Valley parking cars. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.640 I was back to the karaoke bar and I'm like, 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.600 I mean I just remember being so depressed and I'm like, 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.960 I don't know, you know what I'm doing. I've been 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:49.920 here for five years. I got you know, it's like 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.080 what am I doing with my life? And then, um, 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.200 we got this call about the show and they're like 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.520 doing an audition, and we're like, well, it's country, but 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.880 we could probably put some fiddle on our songs, you 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.040 know whatever. Like we're like at this point, we're just 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.480 you know, heating our apartment with our oven, you know. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.160 So we're like a desperate and we're like, okay, we'll 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.960 do it, you know. And we got on and we 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.680 ended up winning the whole thing, winning the whole thing, right, 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.600 the whole thing. How on earth did that feel? It 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.960 was crazy? You know, that's a big deal, going from 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.320 seeing karaoke, just having a dream and knowing what you're 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:27.360 capable of actually materializing it on a TV show, landing 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.800 a major label, big machine, huge record label. How does 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:32.640 that feel when your dreams are starting to come true? 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.760 Oh my god. It was surreal at the time, you know. 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.240 And I I'm always like, you know, I'm a firm 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.320 believer in affirmations and writing things down and really visualizing things. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.920 And I mean, I remember that year I crossed off 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.560 everything on my list. So you had been making listens. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.120 Then oh yeah, absolutely, yeah that was and that was 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.440 and that's the only thing that got me through, you know, 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.200 heating my apartment with my oven. So you really were, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:01.280 absolutely yeah we were when no, it's not. We were 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.320 broke as a joke. Man. We couldn't get our we 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.080 couldn't get our gas turned on, and so we were like, well, 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.199 I guess we'll just open the oven heat it up 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:12.040 for a while, you know, I mean ridiculous like us 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.440 and our two dogs and and this little tiny apartment. Um, 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.359 but it was, you know, you do what you gotta do. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.960 What are you glad for those memories? Though? Absolutely? Now 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.439 I think that it's trying to Tyler about this the 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.760 other day because I'm like, here's your boyfriend and producer. Right, yeah, 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.600 we're making great music. Thank you love it. But we 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.520 were talking about that, you know. I think that it's 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.399 almost I feel like when you come from nothing and 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.920 you have to make something, it's like you have more 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.200 drive and more purpose. So it actually probably made made 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:45.760 me a better artist, for sure, I believe. So you win, 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.600 can you do it? Yes? So we win and you 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.840 get a record? And how is Naomi Jedd? Because she 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.040 was one of the god. Well, she's become like a 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.160 like a fairy. I call her my fairy godmother because 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.280 we still were still very much in touch and I 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.600 just adore that woman. So she's been really a guiding 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.640 light in my life. Honestly, Yeah, what has she how? 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.639 So I feel like, well even with the voice, Like 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.399 when I went over to her place right before I 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.840 got the call to go on the voice and right 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.200 after I guess I got the call to go on 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.240 the voice, and she was like, well, you need to 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.280 go see this guy Ron Browning, his vocal coach. She's like, 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.080 I think he's really gonna help you. And she's like, 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.120 and I want to get you into therapy. And she's 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:23.840 just like thinking of all these things that she thought 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.639 I needed and she want to get you ready. She 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.639 wanted to get me ready like mentally and vocally and everything. 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.320 And so she was like and you know, and she 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.080 knows my in my situation with you know, being a 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.080 starving artist, and so she's like, let me pay for 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.320 your lessons, let me pay for therapy. So she's just 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.200 like and taking me shopping. I mean, she's just been 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.399 an amazing mentor. Yeah, because she didn't have to do that, Like, No, 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.639 she's just like an incredible human. She really is. She 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.840 really cares and I think she really wants to um 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.520 wants to help, and she likes to pour into young people. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.840 So she's a she's a good human. That's amazing. Yeah, 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.200 So what another gift to have gotten from? Can you 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.920 do it? Right? I know? Well even during the show, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.199 I mean, she would like I would get these like 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.560 a surprise gifts backstage and they'd be like, it's from 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.600 someone anonymous, and the producers are like super annoyed because 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.480 she's not supposed to be bringing gifts to contestants when 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.000 you're competing. So she had her favorite, I mean I 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.399 think so, but she did it with a few different people. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.280 But I was like, oh my gosh. I would just 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.480 get like, you know, like random like a dress in 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.520 my dressing room and I'm like, who's this from? And 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.239 it would be like, you know, like I think I know, 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:34.520 but I love that just the sweetheart. So you win 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.640 that show, you go straight into having a major label 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.679 record deal, and then you release a song and it 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.560 goes to what like top five, top four, yet number three, 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.080 number three on the chart your first debut single, and 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.760 is the highest starting debut single from a male female 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.160 duet and like, is it of all times? I think yeah, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.000