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Speaker 1: Hey there everyone. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris Adi.

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Speaker 1: It is time for our early look at next week's lines,

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Speaker 1: and with me today to break it all down is

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Speaker 1: Andrew Kyley, a senior publishing editor It Covers. You can

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Speaker 1: find him on Twitter at Covers Underscore. Kaylee. That is c. A. L. E. Y. Andrew,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back on the show. How you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing very well. Thanks for having me back. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a great time talking earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really happy to have you on for what

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Speaker 1: I think might be the most difficult Monday show of

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Speaker 1: the entire year. With the trade deadline just around the corner,

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Speaker 1: I think some of the lines may swing you wildly.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Look, it shows how much faith I have in you

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Speaker 1: personally to want you to be on the Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: is a lot of pressure, but I know you're going

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Speaker 1: to deliver. Look, we've already seen some you know, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it. With the Joe Flacco injury that you know,

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Speaker 1: Broncos Brown Blind has swung wildly, which you know goes

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Speaker 1: to show you, know, when you've got essentially a four

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Speaker 1: point swing when you lose Joe Flacco, that really shows

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Speaker 1: you the quality of the backup quarterback. But we will

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Speaker 1: get into that and every other game on the Week

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Speaker 1: nine slate. Now we're going to be using the consensus

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Speaker 1: odds over at bettingpros dot com. Unless this is your

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Speaker 1: first time listening, you know that consensus odds are an

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Speaker 1: aggregation of the odds that are available on the market.

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Speaker 1: As always, there are going to be differences in almost

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Speaker 1: every sports book, so shop around for the best odds.

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Speaker 1: And if you ever want to see how any of

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Speaker 1: the top sports betting experts are leaning on any given

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Speaker 1: bet at any given time, Betting pros dot Com is

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Speaker 1: going to show you that too. All right, Andrew, let

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Speaker 1: us not waste any time. Let's dive right in here

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Speaker 1: with the forty nine Ers at the Cardinals on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the line is at forty nine ers minus ten.

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Speaker 1: When I first looked ahead, it was seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: The over unders at forty four and a half. Now,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers come off an absolutely dominant performance

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Speaker 1: against the Anthers on Sunday. I was certainly one of

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Speaker 1: the many who liked the Panthers getting anywhere between five

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Speaker 1: and six. Emmanuel Sender's already proven he's worthy worth the

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Speaker 1: addition with the touchdown, but really it's the first time

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Speaker 1: they showed something with the running game since Kyle Yuschek

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Speaker 1: Matt Rida dealing with an ankle injury a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but sounds like he's going to be okay. The defense

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Speaker 2: They had well, especially yesterday they were just really all

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Speaker 1: Other side of the ball, Cardinals continue to struggle in

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Speaker 1: the red zone a little bit. They make the trade

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Speaker 1: today for Kenyan Drake, so he's likely going right into

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Speaker 1: the fire. David Johnson is almost certainly going to miss

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Speaker 1: it's almost certain that Drake is going to get the

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Speaker 1: the impact when running backs get traded, although it's a

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Speaker 1: That's gonna help because they're going to play in from behind.

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Speaker 1: The defense is a little better with Patrick Peterson back,

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Speaker 1: but overall it's certainly difficult to see them winning the game.

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Speaker 1: So how do you feel right now with the line

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Speaker 2: Four and a half. If you want them, I'd say

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Speaker 2: go after them now, Like I don't see it getting

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Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't understand the trade, not that you know,

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Speaker 2: Worse than it's correct, then they're letting on. I don't

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Speaker 1: Hey, he'd do it again, he'd just call a better play,

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. The defense played pretty well,

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Speaker 2: well the last few weeks. But I just I can't

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Speaker 2: everyone's everyone's rolling. Coleman is rolling. Sanders looks like a

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Speaker 1: They're gonna Look, look, this has moved significantly because I'm

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Speaker 2: They just you know, so you know, people love that

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Speaker 1: here to the Texans at the Jaguars. It's currently Texans

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Speaker 2: Of just g and they they they haven't gotten to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I look, he came back, you know, in prime

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we will never talk about that as a Jets fan,

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Speaker 2: So this is a London game. Remember this is we

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Speaker 2: And then they lose to Oakland and the Bears just

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Speaker 1: For and Oakland, by the way, went out early in

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Speaker 1: And I think I was probably under selling the Raiders

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Speaker 2: I was shocked. There's a huge Bears fan in our

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Speaker 2: Watson's obviously an MVP candidate right now. Just that touchdown

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Speaker 1: you can do anything, Watson.

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Speaker 1: It seems this one to me, I can't see how

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Speaker 2: I like, I like the idea that the Bears can't

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Speaker 2: that just is gonna lead to more low scoring and

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Speaker 2: I have no faith in Mitchell Trubisky right now.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really what sums it up.

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Speaker 1: You know, what probably is the play here, which you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it, but this one's going to be

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Speaker 2: If you like the Eagles once again, i'd take them now.

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Speaker 2: It could get to six. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the next game is a little difficult to analyze

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Speaker 1: I haven't actually seen an over under on it. All right,

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Speaker 1: this one really quickly. We don't know Trick Mahomes is

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Speaker 2: I guess have a fun inside analysis for this. Actually,

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Speaker 1: So so you're what you're saying is that Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: That's fine. Well, the only thing we have here, just

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Speaker 1: They looked great. You know, they didn't they didn't dominate

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Speaker 2: I think it would almost swing a full touchdown.

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Speaker 1: I think that that is fair well, it doesn't really

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Speaker 2: One quick thing. Sure, the Vikings have what they need

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts here? Let's I assume Keenum plays,

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Speaker 1: unless you want to talk about what it would be

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Speaker 1: like with Haskins at Bill's minus ten over under at

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Speaker 1: thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: I just like, I don't understand why you could ever

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Speaker 2: put faith in the Bills covering a big number. It's

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Speaker 2: the number just jumped off the page. It was the

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Speaker 2: number one number I saw on the board was Bill's

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Speaker 2: minus ten. I know Washington's bad. We can talk about

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Speaker 2: how how bad they are tilb we're blue in the face,

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Speaker 2: but the defense showed something against Minnesota last week that

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Speaker 2: was you can take something away from that. Hopefully Keenum plays,

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Speaker 2: if Haskins plays, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't bet it yet, right though?

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Speaker 2: Could no?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is seriously up in the air right

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Speaker 1: now with I thought, you give them the Thursday game.

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Speaker 2: Five times in the second half last week five times

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Speaker 2: him doesn't trust him?

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Speaker 1: If you saw him throw you know why. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, he just overthrowing a wide open Terry mclauriny.

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Speaker 1: He's just not ready.

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Speaker 2: He's ready. But that said, Buffaloes defense gets a lot

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Speaker 2: of praise, but they're not really good against the run,

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Speaker 2: and Callahan loves to run the ball, So maybe there's

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Speaker 2: something there. I just if this number is at at

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Speaker 2: ten or any double digit number, I'm I'm staying away

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Speaker 2: from the Bills. You just you can't bet them, no

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Speaker 2: matter who's that quarterback. The Bills defense is a little

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Speaker 2: overrated when it comes to the rush. They have some

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Speaker 2: troubles there. They couldn't cover at home against Cincy, they

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Speaker 2: couldn't cover at home against Miami. I just don't know why.

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Speaker 2: As long as you're getting double Jed's, I would I

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Speaker 2: would be taking Washington. They're gonna be one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite teaser Washington's gonna be one of my favorite teaser

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Speaker 2: teams this week. I'm gonna bump them up to like

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Speaker 2: sixteen points and put them on a bunch of teasers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask something. Is that different if Haskins

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Speaker 1: winds up being under center? Are you sed toll Like? No,

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Speaker 1: it's just too many points. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: It's too many points with the Bills, okay, like Haskins.

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Speaker 2: Is Haskins any better than than I don't know Josh

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Speaker 2: Rosen at this point.

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Speaker 1: No, no, he's not. But I don't think that makes

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Speaker 1: the difference. I'll honestly, if Keenum plays at the ten number,

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Speaker 1: I like the Redskins. If he doesn't, I'm not. There's

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Speaker 1: just no way, under any circumstances I'm backing a Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Haskins led Redskins team although I completely get your point.

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Speaker 1: It's not like the Bills are gonna put up a

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Speaker 1: ton of points and the Redskins again, they have a

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Speaker 1: decent defense going on and Adrian Peterson look great actually

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Speaker 1: next game, the Colts at the Steelers. Now, again we

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Speaker 1: are recording this just at the start of the Steelers

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Speaker 1: versus the Dolphins game, so something could happen in that

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Speaker 1: game that may change thing. Right now, it's Colts minus one.

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Speaker 1: It was a pick them and the over under is

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Speaker 1: at forty three and half. The Colts squeak out the

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Speaker 1: game against the Broncos on a long field goal, but

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Speaker 1: obviously their offense did not look great. Overall, their defense

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Speaker 1: remains strong, and you know the Steelers. Yeah, the Steelers

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Speaker 1: defense has been strong as well. Again, I'm so hesitant

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Speaker 1: to say anything, you know, less they get destroyed today

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Speaker 1: by the Dolphins or something, but you know, their offense

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Speaker 1: remains in flux. I mean, the Colts had a weird game.

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Speaker 2: They had a ton of weird game.

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Speaker 1: They had a ton of penalties. They're never penalized at all.

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Speaker 1: So for me, look, I don't know the Steelers again,

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Speaker 1: having not seen tonight, I get you know, Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: is a good coach. I like them. They have a

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Speaker 1: strong defense, but they seem so gimmicky, you know, with

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph back there the Colts, it was essentially a pick.

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Speaker 1: A minus one doesn't mean anything. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: lean towards the Cults on this one. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you.

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Speaker 2: It's another one that jumped out on the board to me.

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Speaker 2: The Colts are just the better team. I have the

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Speaker 2: game on the background, and the Dolphins just went up

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Speaker 2: fourteen to nothing on the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. See you know, I just want you

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Speaker 1: turn it off, okay, and I was planning to watch

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Speaker 1: it on DVR, but obviously Andrew has just ruined the

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Speaker 1: entire experience for me.

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Speaker 2: I apologize. I just we were just saying how they're

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Speaker 2: down fourteen to nothing to the Dolphins right now, So well,

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Speaker 2: I won't give you any more spoilers.

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Speaker 1: So jump on and grab that minus one right now,

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Speaker 1: because I may move to quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Colts. Like I just said, the Colts are

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Speaker 2: the better team. I think that was like a peak

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Speaker 2: Broncos defensive game too, Like you know that the Broncos

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Speaker 2: could play defense, they just really hadn't to this point.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they just couldn't The Colts couldn't seem to

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Speaker 2: get anything on track in that first half. Like you said,

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Speaker 2: lots of penalties. Yeah, that said Frank Wright might be

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Speaker 2: the coach of the year with the whole Brissette luck

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Speaker 2: thing defense getting healthy, they had their both their safeties

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Speaker 2: are back and Darius Leonard is back, and that's a

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Speaker 2: big key. And I just think that they'll be able

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Speaker 2: to I think they should win the game. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: if jump on.

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Speaker 1: The Colts, yeah, I mean, I'll take this at anything

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Speaker 1: under afield goal and I won't be worried about it whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I think that they are going to win. And again,

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Speaker 1: the line is probably gonna move if the game unfolds

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Speaker 1: in the way it apparently is unfolding as we speak.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on here to the Jets at the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they're gonna skip it. Never I love talking Abo

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Speaker 1: the Jets is my favorite thing in the world. Look,

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Speaker 1: the Jets are now laying five and the over unders

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Speaker 1: at forty one and a half. But who knows that

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins destroying the Steelers, who knows how things will go?

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Speaker 1: And now look, there is all sorts of bad things

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Speaker 1: happening with the Jets. Leonard Williams was traded today to

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Speaker 1: the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right, tell me why.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because they're just gonna trade everyone is really

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking. I mean, look, I mean, we

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Speaker 1: get offline, we'll talk about how I feel about the trade.

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Speaker 1: But CJ. Moseley out for much, if not all, of

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Speaker 1: the remainder of the season. Sam Darnold dealing with a

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Speaker 1: sprain left them, Robbie Anderson is strongly on the trade block.

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Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, it's the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: So that's really all you've got there. And again they've

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Speaker 1: traded away Kenyon Drake, so I assume Mark Walton is

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Speaker 1: the guy who was the starter tonight. I have no

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Speaker 1: idea what has happened yet in this game, but I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sure it's not kill to score the touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: And none of it matters anyway. So how do you

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Speaker 1: feel without the benefit of the game tonight? At the

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Speaker 1: Jets laying five and the over under forty one and

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Speaker 1: a half. I will will say that I have taken

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Speaker 1: in my own sort of that the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: I've taken the Jets and it has been a disaster obviously,

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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm reticent to opinion on this one.

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Speaker 2: You had you had Jason, my Feelers leader, Jason on

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Speaker 2: two weeks just before they played the Cowboys, and they looked,

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Speaker 2: they looked impressive, and they they win the game and and.

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Speaker 1: That was the end of Yet are we going to

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Speaker 1: get back on track here? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: But I can't. That's the thing. Like, they're they're impossible

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Speaker 2: to evaluate. That's that was the quick point there. Uh,

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Speaker 2: They're impossible to evaluate with those performances. There's no way

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Speaker 2: I could feel confident laying any points on them. I

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Speaker 2: do like the over though this you're an under guy,

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Speaker 2: but I like the over here because I feel like

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Speaker 2: both teams probably feel like defense is optional. That's a

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Speaker 2: low number. It also might be that's also maybe one

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Speaker 2: of my teaser plays this week. Knock that down to

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Speaker 2: about thirty five or so and throw that into a

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Speaker 2: bunch of teasers. I think I think there could be

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Speaker 2: some points here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick's gonna get Yes, Fitzpatrick's gonna throw the ball a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of one of Fitzpatrick's seventeen revenge games, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's able to Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I would stay away from the line,

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Speaker 2: but the total is something I'll be looking at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you are echoing my thoughts exactly. I cannot as

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Speaker 1: much as if I'm forced to take one again, not

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Speaker 1: having seen the Dolphins, I would take the Jets just

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Speaker 1: because I do think they're a little more competent than

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Speaker 1: they have shown. Yes, with all the potential trades, you

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Speaker 1: can't really get a read on it, but the over under, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. I mean the Jets can score. I mean

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Speaker 1: their offensive line is terrible. They may be with our

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Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson, but they can put up points.

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Speaker 2: Been unfair to Darnold as well. This this whole ghost

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Speaker 2: thing is a little overblown. It's literally something so many

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Speaker 2: people say every week. He was just recorded.

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Speaker 1: Well he knew he was being recorded, So maybe not

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Speaker 1: say that next time. But kudos to the Jaguars for

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Speaker 1: trolling him in an expert.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was epicla fantastic.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know about that, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff that they did. All of it is brilliant. So

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00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: we can go. But I think we're both on the

647
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: same page here. Just run away from the spread. Whatever

648
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: it is when it ends. But if the over under

649
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: sticks it around forty one forty one and a half,

650
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: jump all over it with the over Titans at the

651
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Panthers Panthers currently laying four. It was three and a

652
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: half and the over unders at forty one. Look Ryan

653
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: Tannehill making the Titans offense look somewhat competent, three touchdown

654
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: passes against and admittedly weak books pass defense. Meanwhile, the

655
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: Panthers completely embarrassed against the forty nine ers. As we

656
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 1: discussed earlier, Kyle Allen has a rough day. He has

657
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: already been named the starter for this game, so it's

658
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: not gonna be Newton yet. So thoughts here on the

659
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: Panthers at home laying four and the over under at

660
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: forty one to the Titans.

661
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: This is it's the Panthers are a really uncomfortable team

662
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: right now. Like I can't I can't get a read

663
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: on them whatsoever. But they should be upset, right You

664
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: think they'd be upset after being embarrassed like that?

665
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, absolutely.

666
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: But this one's obviously gonna come down to whether or

667
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: not Chris. The answer is usually yes. Christian McCaffrey is

668
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: successfu Like that's almost they check that off like he

669
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 2: is going to be good. But the Titans are really

670
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: good against the rush. It's it's I don't, I don't.

671
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: I really don't know what to feel about this game.

672
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: I I can't believe I'm saying, but Ryan Daniel has looked,

673
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: like you said, competent. He looked He's looked much better

674
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: than Marcus Mariota, which is it's it's taken the Titans

675
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: away from that one of the most uncomfortable teams to

676
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: bet sort of thing, because you never know, oh, this

677
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: is this the week they're gonna let you down, right,

678
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: So that that said, I'll probably go and back them

679
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: this week at plus four and a half or plus

680
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: four or whatever is, and then they'll let me down again.

681
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah, I have no I have no feel

682
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: for this one. I didn't mean to carry off. I'm sorry. Yeah,

683
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: I have no feel for this one whatsoever. I liked

684
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: the Panthers a lot coming off the bye, you know,

685
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know whether or not it says that

686
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: much about the forty nine ers. It probably does, or

687
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: whether or not it says, you know, because the Panthers

688
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: had really started to look very, very solid defensively. But again,

689
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: the Titans, like you said, they're a team who I

690
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: constantly avoid, but I feel less worried about them with

691
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Anally pushes the ball down the field a little bit more.

692
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: He right, you know, he's more accurate than Mariotta, which

693
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: again very low bar. But yeah, it's a game that

694
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't really love above a field goal. I kind

695
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: of lean towards the Titans anywhere above a field goal.

696
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you put if you gun to my head on,

697
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: I'd take the points with the underdog here.

698
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: I think that's the right way to say it. But

699
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: we're both saying gun to our head, which means neither

700
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: one of us really loves it. But I agree with you,

701
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: I would take the points if I had to pick

702
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: a side. Bucks at Seahawks. Seahawks currently minus seven, that's

703
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: jumped from minus six, and the look headline at the

704
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: over under. I mean, I love these Seahawks games where

705
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: you look at it and you're you're thinking, like your

706
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: first reaction is it's probably gonna be like in a

707
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: mid forties, like high forty, something like fifty three for

708
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: the over under. This is not your grandfather, Seahawks. Jameis Winton.

709
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: James Winston just does what he does against the Titans,

710
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: plenty of turnovers. Bucks cannot run the ball, they cannot

711
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: stop the pass. Meanwhile, the Seahawks defense and home field advantage,

712
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: it's just not what it once was. But they're still

713
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: getting thing done, mainly because Russell Wilson is playing an

714
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: MVP level. Chris Carson is running incredibly well. Again, this

715
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: is a very tough matchup for running backs. You can

716
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: throw all over the Bucks, but it's very difficult to run.

717
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: So how do you feel here? Seahawks minus seven and

718
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: the under age fifty three the Bucks.

719
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 2: It's like one of the most shocking stats in the NFL.

720
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: The Bucks ranked first in dv AWA against the Rush.

721
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

722
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: I know they've got some very talented defenders, but like

723
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: you just don't think of that when you think of

724
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: the Bucks. I would say, and here's a fun staff

725
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: forget the Seahawks have not covered at home this season

726
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 2: own for ats at home. Oh and that includes that

727
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: includes games against Cincy and all the Saints Teddy Teddy

728
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Bridgewater Saints. Sure, but they just there's something about these

729
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: home games that they just haven't They lost, They lost

730
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: out right to the to the Ravens against a team

731
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: at that point. Going into that game, we were probably like, oh,

732
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 2: the Ravens, they look good on offense now, but they

733
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: can't play defense anymore.

734
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: They're kind of like and then Thursday night game against

735
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: the Rams right where they won by one but the

736
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: spread was one and a half. Yeah, you're right.

737
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: And then and then last week they the Falcons kind

738
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: of laid down for them for three quarters of the

739
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: game and then the Seahawks just didn't care and they

740
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: didn't cover last week, which was I had that. I

741
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: had that game, so I was one of those bitter

742
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: minus seven and a half betters, which is yeah.

743
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: I had it at six and a half, thankfully, so

744
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: I was yeah, so I was able to get the hook.

745
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, look, I agree with you. The Bucks for me,

746
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: are a really tough team to get a sense of,

747
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: right because there are It was like the Titans. I

748
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: always said the Bucks versus the Titans was like my

749
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: nightmare because it was two teams that I felt like

750
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: I had no sense of what they were going to

751
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: do whatsoever. And it's kind of the same way. I mean,

752
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: the Bucks should have won that game yesterday against the Titans.

753
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: Without the you know, the blown call and the field

754
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: goal or anything like that. And the Seahawks, you know,

755
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: they're just not that good. Russell Wilson is really good,

756
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: but he is. He's really good. He could be the

757
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: MVP this year. But I don't think the team as

758
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: that could, which I think is why the home field

759
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: advantage really isn't making that much of a difference. I

760
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: just think if I'm forced to pay again, this is

761
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: one where I don't have a side here. You know,

762
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about it either way. If I'm

763
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: forced to pick Man anything less than a touchdown, I

764
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: think I'll take the Seahawks. Anything more than the touchdown,

765
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: I think I take the Bucks. Right now, it's at seven,

766
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: so I you know, I'm I'm.

767
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: So that's a stay away, to stay away for.

768
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: Me and the over under. I don't know, man, I

769
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: think i'd probably lean on. That's a high number. I

770
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: get it, I get it, I get it. But at

771
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: fifty three, man, I don't know. Again, Russell Wilson, you know,

772
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: it's like twenty past attempts a game. I mean, I

773
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: don't know how many touchdowns he could actually throw given

774
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: that to get it to that number. So for me,

775
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: I lean under at seven. It's a stay away from me.

776
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: But if it moves higher, I probably think the values

777
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: at the Bucks. If the moves lower, I think the

778
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: values at the Seahawks.

779
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: It's another teaser. It's another teaser game for me. I

780
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: would tease. I would tease the total down here and

781
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: then take the over. Yeah, obviously the Seahawks can't cover

782
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: right now. I would say they're having a lot of

783
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: trouble covering people, and Mike Evans is doing his thing again,

784
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: and they just they look good on as long as

785
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: they're they look good until they're not looking good. That's

786
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: what's the infurity and thing about the Bucks. Yeah, and yeah,

787
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: they win that game in LA and then they promptly

788
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: goin three straight up in ats in our next three games.

789
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I don't want any part of them here.

790
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: Let's move on to an interesting line here. Lions at

791
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Raiders now are laying three. It was at

792
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: minus one and the over under a pretty high fifty one.

793
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised here. I mean, the Lions to

794
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: me have have repeatedly gotten a little less respect than

795
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: I think they deserve, though they did not cover yesterday

796
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: against the Giants, despite winning the game. Without carry on Johnson,

797
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: they've absolutely no running game. Even with him, they barely

798
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: had a running game, but without him they certainly have none.

799
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: They employed they' running back by committee approach. That's not

800
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: a big deal against the Raiders, who can't stop the

801
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: pass anyway, So Matthew Stafford, who's having a great season,

802
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: should be able to do some damage here. The Raiders' offense,

803
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: though they look just fine. They nearly pull it out

804
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: against the Texans. Tyrell Williams returns and scores a touchdown

805
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: because that's what he does every single game he plays.

806
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: Darren Waller's playing great, Josh Jacobs is playing well. They

807
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: can put up points, hence the high over under. But

808
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: how do you feel here with the Raiders laying a

809
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: field goal at home in the over under at fifty one?

810
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: I think it's it's the right way to feel. You

811
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: feel surprised. The Raiders have been surprising on offense, and

812
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: I think this is where the numbers should be around

813
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: a field goal, because unfortunately, I think the Lions are

814
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: giving up a little bit with the trade. They've made

815
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: some confusing trades as well, not as confusing as some teams.

816
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: But they traded away their captain last week and on

817
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: defense and I just didn't get it. And yeah, with

818
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: Johnson now hurt, it's it's they become very one dimensional.

819
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: I know the Raiders don't do much on defense, but

820
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: anytime you're near that one dimensional, you're gonna have issues.

821
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: And I think that's I think that's probably the where

822
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: the line is supposed to be. I I don't see

823
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: it going much higher than this.

824
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's probably start getting the consensus, to be clear,

825
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: is at three. There's still a couple of books offering

826
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: it at two, so it's moving around a little bit

827
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: near and.

828
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: I could see it. I could see it ending around

829
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: two and a half or two in that and that

830
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: kind of area there. Yeah, and I just it's a

831
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: hard it's another hard one to evaluate this. There's I

832
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: think i'd if I'd have to take the Raiders at home,

833
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: just because I like the way. I like the way

834
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: the offenses look. They they've put up some some tough fights.

835
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: They it was they looked an impressive on offense against

836
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: against the Texans last week. They gave them a run

837
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: for their money. Obviously, they got blown out by Green Bay,

838
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: but beat Chicago in London, like we mentioned before, beat

839
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Indianapolis like it's and they've covered three of their

840
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: last four, so it's it's where the line should be.

841
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: I think, yeah. I think for me, how I feel

842
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: about this game might depend on how healthy the Lions

843
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: are on defense, because you know when they're down Darius

844
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: Slay like they were against the Giants, and I think

845
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: Snax Harrison got injured again in that game. He's a

846
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: big stopper of the run, so I think it might

847
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: depend on that. If both guys are healthy, I think

848
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: I'd probably favor the lines if you're going to get

849
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: something like a field goal, But if not, it's probably

850
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: a game that I just don't feel great about either

851
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: way because I just don't trust either one of these teams,

852
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: which is I feel like both teams could easily have

853
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: much better records than they do, the Raiders at three

854
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: and four of the Lions at three three and one,

855
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: So it's not a game that I'm uber excited about.

856
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: But if the Lions get healthy on defense, I think

857
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: i'd probably lean towards them. If you're going to get

858
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,200
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00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: let's move on here to the Browns at the Broncos.

869
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: I mentioned it at the top. The opening line was

870
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: Broncos laying one and a half. It is now the

871
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: Browns laying three and the over under his drop from

872
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: forty three to forty and a half. And the real

873
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: reason for it is the absence of Joe Flacco, who's

874
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: gonna miss this game and may go on the IR

875
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: with a purported case of a herniated disk in his neck,

876
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: but a real case of stop insulting the coaching staff.

877
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: That's what it was. Come on, that's what it is.

878
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: Brandon Allen is going to get the start for the Broncos,

879
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: And I've got to be honest, this has to be

880
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: the first time we've had three guys with the last

881
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: name Alan starting at quarterback in the NFL. Right job,

882
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: Kyle and Brandon I don't know who he is, but anyway,

883
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: we don't know much about what we're going to see

884
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: from the defensive side of the ball. You mentioned how

885
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: they put up a big effort against the Colts. We

886
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: don't know if Chris Harris Junior is still going to

887
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: be there at you know, when the game comes around. Meanwhile,

888
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: the Browns are in complete disarray. A few things are

889
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: working for them. Jarvis Landry got injured at the end

890
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: of the game. I don't know how serious it is.

891
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield looks like me after I try to do

892
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: a push on, you know, like he just he just

893
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: looks like he's beaten down at this point. It's just

894
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: not working for him. So with the understanding that it's

895
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: probably a little difficult to analyze this because I don't know,

896
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I don't know all that much about

897
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: Brandon Allen myself. So how do you feel about that?

898
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: The Browns in Denver? So it's a tough place to play,

899
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: of course, laying three with an over under forty and

900
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: a half or is this literally a I have no

901
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: idea what to do with this with Brandon Allen, and

902
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: I need to research it and then.

903
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: We'll I would need I would need to do more

904
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 2: research on Brandon Allen. First, I did this is funny

905
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago that game they well, I guess

906
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: last week when they played the Chiefs, I didn't even

907
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: realize that Drew Locke had been hurt. Yeah, I was like,

908
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: why why is Joe Flacco was still in this football game?

909
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: Like it was? It was terrible. I don't know. Wow,

910
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: you can't evaluate Uh, Sutton is looks good on offense.

911
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: Free scored a couple of touchdowns the last couple of weeks,

912
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: so they're they're starting to it. I don't know if

913
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: Allen could be much worse than Joe Flacco.

914
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: So maybe it's that that's really what it comes down to, right,

915
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco has been the most disinterested human being ever

916
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. Over the last three weeks.

917
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: He's just been like, I don't know, guys, I guess

918
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: I'll play How much time do we have Okay, that's fine.

919
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, legitimately, I don't know what the over you know,

920
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: the the highest number of rushing attempts that a team

921
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: has ever done in a single game, But the Broncos

922
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: probably might as well just go for breaking the record here.

923
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you can attack the Browns on the ground,

924
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: just feed Lindsay Royce Freeman, see what you can do.

925
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: But in the end, I don't think there's any way

926
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: to properly analyze this game at this point.

927
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: The Browns are a mess, right like Freddy Kitchens is

928
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: lucky to have a job. At this point, I would say.

929
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess the only thing you could

930
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: say about this without you know, again, it's it's very

931
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: difficult for us to really, you know, breathe it in

932
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: because we don't know too much about what it's gonna

933
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: look like. But in the end, you know, the Browns,

934
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: as much as their season is probably over, this is

935
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: really it. Okay, if they don't win this game, like

936
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: the season is legitimately over. There two and five, you

937
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: still have a pulse at this point. I mean, the

938
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: Broncos are two and six, but they're you know, they've

939
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: traded Sanders already, They're probably going to make other other moves.

940
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: This is it. You've got the Browns against a just

941
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, a backup quarterback that nobody really knows whatsoever.

942
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: You've got the team trading guys. This is their stand.

943
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: And so if you want to buy into that narrative,

944
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: I could see back in the Browns.

945
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: But overall, just know, if you know Freddy Kitchens, I'm

946
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: just I know he fumbled twice. One of them wasn't

947
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: really as full as you get the ball kicked. But

948
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: you just give Nick Chubb the ball as much as

949
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: possible hopefully you win the football game.

950
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he looked great yesterday. I mean, you know,

951
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: he fumbled twice early, they still kept giving them the ball.

952
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: They still will and so I think that, but for now,

953
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, stay away if it is our advice.

954
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: Packers at the Chargers. Packers laying three and the over

955
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: under at forty six, up a half point from forty

956
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: five and a half at the look aad line. The

957
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: Packers continue to roll even without Devonte Adams. He may

958
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: make it back for this one. I'm not sure if

959
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: he's going to need another week here. Uh, the defense

960
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: showing few holes now the pass defense, as evident last

961
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: night against the Chiefs, but Aaron Jones and Aaron Rodgers

962
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 1: both playing exceptionally well. And you cannot say the same

963
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: thing about the Chargers. Though they do eke out that

964
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 1: win against the Bears, it's really just business as usual

965
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: for them. It's they're inconsistent, both offensively and defensively. They

966
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: have a ton of injuries that they can't really overcome.

967
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: They're going home here, but that is not an actual

968
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: home field advantage. It's almost a disadvantage because.

969
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: Charge that Steelers game like it'll be exactly like that

970
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: Steelers game was a few weeks ago, like the Packers

971
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: fans will travel, that will be that will be at

972
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: least fifty Packers fans there this weekend.

973
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: What makes me nervous about this line is, you know,

974
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: the public loves the Packers, right, so you figure that

975
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna get money on this with the Packers. So

976
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised it's not higher given the freed

977
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, right.

978
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a little suspicious. The line is a

979
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: little suspicious because I look at the Chargers and I

980
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: see a team who who who doesn't want to give

981
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: their best player of the football, Austin Eckler, just that

982
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: guy the football all the time, and like I know,

983
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: they still use him in the passing game a lot.

984
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: But Melvin Gordon is not in shape right now. He

985
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: just he's not. He can't run the ball, well, he can't,

986
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: and they're just dedicated to give him the ball. And

987
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I'm confused as to why they

988
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: want to just keep going on this way. But it

989
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: should be a Packers Packers easy win here. But that's

990
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: so that's why it's suspicious, because it's so low.

991
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I think even if I looked at this

992
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, they're trying to get us, you know,

993
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: they're trying to get people to take the Packers. You know,

994
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: there's something that I'm missing. It's got to be the Chargers.

995
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: There's just no way that I would feel comfortable taking

996
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: the Chargers in a game that's you know, they could win.

997
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: But it's not something where it would be something where

998
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: even if I saw value in the charters, I probably

999
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: couldn't pull the trigger. And again, it's possible Gordon gets

1000
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: dealt by the way. I mean, it's certainly it's certainly

1001
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: one of the possibilities. I mean, Gordon does not look good,

1002
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: but again, their offensive line is just completely beat up

1003
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: with it.

1004
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: Three starters are gone.

1005
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: It's it's why Eckler does his damage in the passing game.

1006
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: It's not like he's running it and tearing it up.

1007
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just much more doing it out of

1008
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: the passing game. So again, it's a game that I

1009
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: think the line strikes both of us as, Wow, you

1010
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: got to hammer the Packers on this number. But you know,

1011
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: I need to do a little bit of a deeper

1012
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: dive into it, because on the surface it looks like, Wow,

1013
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: definite Packers. But when it's that way, especially with a

1014
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: public team like the Packers that you know is going

1015
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: to get a ton of money on them, it's a

1016
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: little suspicious. Still at this point, I'll be honest, at

1017
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: a field goal, I'll pound the Packers like I'll take

1018
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: it right out.

1019
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: Like the defense isn't as bad as some of the

1020
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: numbers indicate. Obviously, they have their issues against the rush,

1021
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 2: which I don't think will be a problem against the Chargers,

1022
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: which is which makes this line even more suspicious. I

1023
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: think you can give them a bit of a break

1024
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: against last night like you're still playing in arrowhead. You're

1025
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: still having to face like really talented skill position guys

1026
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: like Hill and Kelsey. Yeah, so I think there is

1027
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: some leeway to be given there. So yes, I'm on

1028
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: board with the hammering of the pack.

1029
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on here to the Patriots at

1030
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Money I'm sure is coming in on the

1031
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: raven here because the line has dropped from Patriots laying

1032
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: five to Patriots laying four. The over under has dropped

1033
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: from forty six to forty four and a half. The

1034
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: Patriots win on Sunday in the slop against the Browns,

1035
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: but the offense really has not looked dynamic for several weeks.

1036
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: The defense, though, continues to be incredibly, incredibly impressive. Then

1037
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: you get the Ravens. They're playing well off that big

1038
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: win against the Seahawks. Lamar Jackson continues to do well

1039
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: on the ground at least. They're coming off a buy

1040
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: where Harbaugh is really good at getting his team coached up.

1041
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: I hesitate, and again, this is two weeks in a

1042
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: row where I've taken the points against the Patriots and

1043
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: come out on the wrong end. For me, the value

1044
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: here and it's dropped already, so this might I get.

1045
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: You know, when I first looked at forty six, it

1046
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: was a little different than forty four and a half.

1047
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but I still kind of like the under here,

1048
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: just because both these teams control the ball forever. I mean,

1049
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: they both have a huge time of possession. So it

1050
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: strikes me as something where you know they're both going

1051
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: to try to be methodical in their drives and see

1052
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: what they can do to extend it, which leans towards

1053
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: the under. But I'm not sure how I feel. How

1054
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: do you do at Patriots lank for and now the

1055
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: over under at forty four and a half?

1056
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: This is another one of those If you like the Patriots,

1057
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: I don't see it. They're a public team. It's not

1058
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: gonna get The number is not gonna go down any further,

1059
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: so you might as well take the Patriots now if

1060
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: you want. It's gonna be really interesting to see what

1061
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: Belichick can come up against having to face Jackson like

1062
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: we haven't. Jackson hasn't had to face anything like this,

1063
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: like this Patriots defense yet, so it's gonna be fun

1064
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: to see the little x's and o's and seeing how

1065
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: they punch and counter punch each other. But I think

1066
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: you're right. I think what it's gonna come down to

1067
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: is the run game for both teams. The Patriots, haven't

1068
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: they in a sense, they obviously passed to set up

1069
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: the run, but they need to control the clock a

1070
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: little more in this game. And I think they'll do

1071
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: that by given guys like it'll be one of these

1072
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: weird games where they get Brand of the Bold in

1073
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: some touches for some reason, and James White will get

1074
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: a few extra carries. And besides the the Michelle just

1075
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, he had an okay game last night

1076
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: or yesterday, and they still want to get him going.

1077
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: And the Ravens just aren't very good on defense right now.

1078
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: So well, they've gotten a little bit better against the

1079
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: runs since Brandon Williams came back, and again, you know,

1080
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: without James Devlin, I think that's been a huge issue

1081
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: for the Patriots running game. But and you know, they

1082
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: don't really have the depth of receiver right now. Edelman's

1083
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: still there. I know they traded for some new Philip Dorsett,

1084
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: but it's nobody that really scares you. We'll see. I

1085
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: hear they're still looking for a receiver so we'll see

1086
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: what they do, right, if they can add anything. But

1087
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: in the end, offensively, they don't really scare you all

1088
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: that much at this point, I don't think because just

1089
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: their weapons, so I could see them, you know, just

1090
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: being methodical. Their defense is legitimate. It would really help

1091
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens. If Hollywood Brown comes back for this one

1092
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: he's missed several weeks, he at least stretches the field

1093
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know, Belichick is going to

1094
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: come up with something. So with the line, yeah, I

1095
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: mean it's not going to get down to a field

1096
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: goal or anything like that because the Patriots are a

1097
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: public team. So I think it'll bounce between four and five. So,

1098
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: like you said, if you like them, you can go

1099
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: ahead and take them here is fine. And again the

1100
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: over under at forty four and a half, I still

1101
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: like the under right there. I liked it more at

1102
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: forty six. But for now, I see this as kind

1103
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: of a close game that's going to be relatively low

1104
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: scoring as both teams, you know, do what they do best,

1105
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: which is still a.

1106
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: Lot of the different players. But this is still a

1107
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: big rivalry game and sure and it should be a

1108
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 2: low scoring one.

1109
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Let's move on to our

1110
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: final game of the week, the Cowboys at the Giants.

1111
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys now are laying seven. It was at seven and

1112
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: a half, so it's moved just a bit, and the

1113
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: over under at forty eight. Daniel Jones set's career highs

1114
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: pretty much across the board against the Lions. It's not

1115
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: enough for them to win. They do had Leonard Williams,

1116
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: as we talked about, and Sterling Shepard might be able

1117
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: to make it back from his concussion, although that's still

1118
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: kind of up in the air. Meanwhile, the Cowboys are

1119
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: off a bye and their impressive win against the Eagles.

1120
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: They've been a bit up and down this season. We

1121
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: talked about how in the world did they lose against

1122
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: the Jets if not a good sign for them, But

1123
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: how do you feel here? Division rivalry Monday Night Football,

1124
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys at the Giants laying a touchdown and the over

1125
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: under at forty eight.

1126
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: These these division games are obviously always closer, and the

1127
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: Cowboys have have looked very good against bad teams and

1128
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 2: have looked very bad against good teams. It seems so

1129
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: the Giants to me are a bad team. I just

1130
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: it's a lot of points. It's a lot of points

1131
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: for a team that has struggled against well, it just

1132
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: struggled in general recently. And Daniel Jones, if I have to,

1133
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: I'd take the Cowboys, just because I think Daniel Jones

1134
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: is turning off the ball way too much right now.

1135
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: Everybody was very much in love with Danny Dimes when

1136
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: he came on the scene, but it's it's more like

1137
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: Danny turnovers like that kid. That kid turns over the

1138
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: ball a lot. He's a bit of a gunslinger and

1139
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 2: he's got putting them in some problems. So I don't

1140
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how to how to feel about align

1141
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: that big with the Cowboys, but the guy on the

1142
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 2: other side is iffy, so I'd probably stay away.

1143
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: This is you throwing up your hands. That was the

1144
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: verbal equivalent of Andrew throwing his hands up in the air,

1145
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: being like, I don't know. There was just a lot

1146
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: of I don't know. I'd like this, but no, don't apologize.

1147
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I mean honestly that that really is

1148
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 1: what it is. And I try to encourage our guests

1149
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: when they're on the show. It's okay to say, man,

1150
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: I do not have a feel for that line. That

1151
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: is not what I want to know. Neither do I. Honestly,

1152
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: I really don't. I think I probably would lean towards

1153
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys if it was under a touchdown at this point,

1154
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't feel great about it. Again, divisional games

1155
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: are always a little bit tricky, and the Giants, you know,

1156
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: they have the ability to keep a game close. It's

1157
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: not like the Cowboys have this dominant defense. Now that

1158
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley is back healthy, now that Golden Tate is

1159
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: back in the fold, he's been playing really well. Evan

1160
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: Ingram finally had a really good game, you know. So

1161
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: it is a game where, especially if Shepherd can come back.

1162
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean, even if the Cowboys are in control, you

1163
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: could see the Giants getting a backdoor cover here, you know.

1164
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: So it's certainly not a game that I feel really

1165
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: good about in a Division game. So for now, I'm

1166
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna on it if it drops below seven, which I

1167
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: won't expect it to. If anything, I think it's gonna

1168
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: go up.

1169
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see a couple of eights on the boardland, Yeah.

1170
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: There are a couple of eights. And again, Cowboys are

1171
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: such a public team, so you know, but you know,

1172
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: in New York, it just it makes me a little hesitant.

1173
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: So this is again one that both of us are

1174
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: pretty much out of. Stay away. I'm kind of maybe

1175
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: willing to trust the Cowboys if it drops below seven.

1176
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it will, and it wouldn't be a

1177
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: game that I would love. It's you know, it's not

1178
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna be one of my best bets or anything on

1179
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: the Thursday Show because it's just it's not a game

1180
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: that I have a great feel for because again, the

1181
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: Giants are able to put up points, even though I

1182
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: don't really trust them as a good football team like

1183
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: they did yesterday against the Lions. They don't have a

1184
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: great defense, but they were able to in the end

1185
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: come storming back a little bit and put up points.

1186
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: So it's not a game I feel great about. Yeah,

1187
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: all right, agree, that is going to do it for

1188
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: today's show. Andrew, it was great having you back on.

1189
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: Remind everyone where they can find more of you in

1190
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 1: your work.

1191
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: You can find me at covers dot com, where we've

1192
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: got a ton of other great football betting content, and

1193
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: you can find me on Twitter at Covers Underscore Klee.

1194
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: I'll be tweeting college Football NFL, and maybe one or

1195
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: two more baseball picks depending on how much longer this

1196
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: world series goes. Probably not long, I don't.

1197
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: Think, probably not not with the shows are injury and

1198
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: again that's C A L E Y C. I got

1199
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: your back over there.

1200
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: That's right, all.

1201
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,479
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1209
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Speaker 1: for week nine. I'll talk to you then,