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Yeah. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.840 Listen to the Welcome to Our Show podcast on the 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.280 I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:50.040 your podcasts. Hi. I'm Glory Adam, host of Well Read 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:54.120 Black Girl. Each week, we journey together through the cultural 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:59.080 moment where our culture and literature collide and pay homage 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.720 to the women books we grew up reading. It's a 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.480 literary kickback you never knew you needed. Listen to a 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.359 Well Read Black Girl on the I Heart Radio app, 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:19.360 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:27.840 Ed Helms and I played Andy Bernard on The Office. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:33.880 All right, hello everybody, and welcome back. This is the 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:39.320 Office Deep Dive and as always I'm your host, Brian Baumgartner. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:49.119 And guess what that was my mouth? Today is the day? Actually, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.800 today is actually the day for a few things. But 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:56.000 first up, I, oh my gosh, I'm so excited to 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.240 tell you that my new book that I know I've 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.840 been talking about for weeks now is finally out. And 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.440 how about that just in time for the holidays. Who 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:12.560 could have guessed that? So head on over to Amazon 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.840 or Barnes and Noble or Books a Million, wherever it 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.880 is that you get your books and grab your very 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:23.680 own copy of Welcome to dunder Mifflin. And while you're 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.680 at it, grab a copy for your mother, your sister, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.679 all your friends, anyone in your contacts list. You will 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.640 not regret it all right now, I also have another 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.080 big announcement to tell you about at the end of 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.520 this episode, so make sure you stay tuned after the 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.560 interview and and find out what in the world that 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:49.440 could be. Trust me, it is good. And lastly, what 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.160 you all came here for my very special guest that 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:58.160 is returning for part two of our conversation, the Nord 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:03.200 Dog himself, Ed Helms. Now, if you haven't all already, 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.560 make sure you go and listen to part one, but 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.080 then come right back here, because I've been saving the 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.720 best for last. Yes, that's right, the last. I'm starting 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.279 to wrap up the interviews, which I know is very 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.800 bitter sweet. But the good news is over the next 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.440 few weeks you're going to hear a few of my 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.839 very favorite episodes with some of my favorite guests, and 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:32.479 you also may hear some of yourself. But that being said, 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.839 today's interview truly is it is. It's one of my 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:42.320 favorites because you get to see Ed in a different way. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:47.839 Right Ed is known for playing these kind of loud, bumbling, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:54.640 I mean hilarious but maybe slightly obnoxious characters. Right but 0:04:54.960 --> 0:05:00.880 Ed himself, he's just he is so not that. I mean, 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.400 he is hilarious and and he's a comedy nerd. We 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.360 talked about that, but today what you're going to get 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:13.240 to see is a very sweet, thoughtful side of Ed 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.240 because that's who he is, and I'm not gonna lie. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:23.080 Things get a little emotional so here he is the 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:32.560 incomparable Mr ed Helms. Bubble and Squeak. I love it 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:39.320 Bubble and squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cookie every month. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:52.880 Left over from the night before you said you were 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.840 a comedy nerd. What what was it about The Office 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.719 when you started initially watching it that you felt like 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:05.440 you were seeing something different? What? What? What was that? Well? 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.320 I don't know why I didn't. I didn't even I 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.880 wasn't able to sort of understand what I liked about it. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.279 But what I do think is kind of hilarious is 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.480 that all of the awkwardness and the tension that we 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:24.640 think is so funny our parents generation, especially as Southern parents, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.760 like you know, repression is a very powerful force in 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:34.440 Southern families, and and that the awkwardness is is so intolerable. 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.520 And even on the Daily Show, especially with the field pieces, 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:43.120 the correspondent field pieces, it was all about finding extremely 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.960 tense moments and you know, you read we would revel 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:51.680 in the awkwardness and try to foster awkwardness with people, 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:58.000 um because that tension is funny. Uh, And that that's 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.200 sort of my postmortem aun Hoss, Like I didn't quite 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:02.720 I didn't never understood that at the time, and I 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:07.400 couldn't understand why, why why our parents generation didn't think 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.200 The Office was funny, Like, well, how do you not 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:13.720 get this? But I understand now that that um because 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.400 I think I've seen more extreme versions of it that 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:20.160 make me uncomfortable at times, and I can see like, oh, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.840 it's just it's like calibrating, like what's right here. Well, 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.480 there's a number of fans who come up to me, 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.600 huge fan, I'm the biggest fan of the show. I 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:35.960 can't watch Scott's Taughts like Scott's Taughts somehow puts it 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.080 over the line. Dinner party is sort of like the 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.640 straddling the straddling of the line, but Scott's Taughts too, 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.240 people are like no, And so I started to analyze, like, well, 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.840 why is that? And I think it's kind of what 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.320 you were talking about about the Daily Show, which was 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.160 most of the cringing moments were happening to us, right, 0:07:55.280 --> 0:08:00.360 the office workers, ourselves, whereas Scott's Taughts suddenly was about 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:06.080 these kids and that that's rough. That's rough. Yeah, it's 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.800 fun to see, like if your heroes are low status, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.400 the heroes of the show are low status, it's fun 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.960 to see them squirm. But when you see like regular 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:21.200 people squirm, and and that's on the Daily Show, you know, 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.080 we would try to make the bad guy squirm, right, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.440 whoever the villain of a piece of a field piece was. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.840 But I don't know why is that funny? Why is 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.440 squirming so funny? I mean, the most extreme versions were 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.680 all of Sasha Cohen's stuff, right, the borat and the 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:43.880 alleg It's it's a powerful it's it's it's an incredible 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.640 mechanism for satire, but it is it can be polarizing 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:52.959 for sure. Yeah. Um, when well, let me ask you this, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.720 had had you done much physical comedy before the Office? 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.560 Did you feel like that was something that you did well? 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.600 I did. I had done a lot of improv, which 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.400 is obviously a lot of um, you know, very broad 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:09.880 physical stuff on stage. And I you know, I started 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.679 by doing stand up in New York City, and I 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.640 actually knew John Krasinski from that. He started by going 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.079 to New York and kind of dipping his toe in 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:24.000 the stand up world. But we we were acquaintances back 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:29.040 back then. But that's just a funny side note. What 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.040 was I saying before, oh, physical comedy. So in my 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:37.520 stand up I kind of fancied myself like I don't know, 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.880 like a sort of sand Luri or Brian Reagan, like 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.240 a perform like someone who acted out his my bits. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.800 And so there was a lot of physicality there. And 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.400 then the Daily Show. I think part of what was 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.080 fun about that was being a very stuffy reporter but 0:09:55.240 --> 0:10:00.520 breaking that mold and ridiculous ways sometimes physical. And so 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:05.280 I don't write, oh, did you really sing acapella at Oberlin? Um? 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.600 I did. There was a group called the Oberlin Overtones. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.680 That there is, I should say a group called the 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.040 Oberlin Overtones, and I was in that group for one 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.440 semester my freshman year. I don't know, maybe it was 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.600 my it was spring of my freshman year and fall 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.160 of my sophomore year and then and then I didn't 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.199 do it anymore. Was that a joke that you pitched 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.000 them on, Andy, or that was just going that's yeah? 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.360 That was that I think was something that you know, 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.720 there was a little bit of Harvard writers like using 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.640 Cornell as a punching bag, right, That's that's a little 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.640 bit of what was going on with Andy Greg being 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:47.480 Harvard and Mike Schuer and a couple others. But I 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.360 had no baggage with Cornell, but I still just loved 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.160 the I don't know, it seemed like a fun thing 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.640 to make fun of. And so the acapella character trait 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.520 was that just was he was endowed with that in 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.839 the writing process. And but it is something that I 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:08.679 understood implicitly and I got Acapella is sided. It is 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.800 such an interesting art form because it is so fun 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:18.800 to do, but it is kind of excruciating to watch 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.720 or listen to. And I mean no disrespect to acapella 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.400 aficionados out there, I just because my own relationship with 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.959 it is complex. I have a love hate thing, and 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.080 I think especially in college acapella groups, there's a strong 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:39.800 association with kind of a a very clicky, smug, arrogant vibe. Right. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.200 It's almost like a like certain preppy fraternities or something. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.400 And even though the Oberlin overtones were actually not like 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.920 that at all. There's really no part of Oberlin that's preppy. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.280 And um, it's something that made sense and it really 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.600 informed Andy in lots of ways that the creation of 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:05.560 Andy profile was one of the most thrilling creative endeavors 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.800 of my life, because you know, if it was the 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.319 acapella thing, I would just start singing on set at 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.120 wrong times and then the writers would see that and 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.880 be like, Oh, that's fun, and then they'd write in 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.440 more singing. And that's just one example. There were so 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.640 many little details that started to kind of slot in, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.760 like a Tetris game about who Andy was, and it 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:29.520 was this feedback loop, and Mike Scher in particular had 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.319 a real shine for Andy and we just had so 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.679 much fun. Like I would go to the writer's room 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.200 and just joke around with Mike about who Andy is 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.960 and what made us laugh about him. And that was 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.680 another thing that I think made the office so special 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.800 is that the collaboration between the writers and the cast 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.880 was next level, right. I Mean, there were cast members 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.360 that were writers to begin with, but then I always 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.760 felt like the writer's room was an open door and 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.199 that when the writers were on set, it was always 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.920 a conversation and like what, like, how do we have 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.920 more fun with this character or what what can we 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.480 come up with? And everyone was open minded and that 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:14.360 it's that kind of best idea wins mentality that leads 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:19.840 to great stuff yeah, I agree with you a thousand percent. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:25.120 And Greg told me that he wanted that opened up 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:31.040 as a workshop for the writers actually because he believed 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.440 that the comedy in the show was so much about behavior, 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:41.080 and you can't write behavior and so well in the beginning, 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.960 you can't until you get to know a character, right, 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.880 But yeah, you're so right. There's a famous episode of 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.080 Friends in which they start making fun of the way 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.640 that Chandler talks, like the cadence of his speech, and 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.679 it's one it's a favorite episode. It's extremely funny, but 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.439 it is it. It's something that could not have been 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:06.840 written in season one. It's something that everyone started to 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.400 understand implicitly, and it took a writer being like, that's funny, 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.400 Like that's a really specific funny thing about Chandler, and 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.880 if the other characters clock it, we can write to it. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.000 But that's really cool to hear. I didn't know that. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.040 But you're you're so right. I mean, for Greg to 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.760 be ahead of that. Writing always gets better on a 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.360 TV show as the writers learned the behavior of characters. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.800 But to start with that ethos of like we are 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:48.480 behavior forward, that's awesome. Yeah, Greg's awesome. That's awesome. 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Mike Sure talked specifically about you 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:49.320 during the writer's strike and coming out to the picket 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:53.920 line that was happening and what a difference that made 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:58.240 for them as they were having a difficult emotional time 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:05.160 picketing their own show. Do you recall anything about that? Yeah? Absolutely, Um, 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:10.040 I just remember everyone felt a lot of tension, like 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.359 am I a part of this fight? Or am I? 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.840 You know, obviously I support the writers, but I'm there's 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.359 some it's scary a little bit like it just felt 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:25.040 so baffling, and I think in hindsight, I've I really 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:29.959 appreciate what how courageous that was. And yeah, there were 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.520 a bunch of there were a bunch of picket lines 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.720 that I remember going to the first day was on 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.720 our little lot up in van Nis, right. It was 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.280 just our writing staff and um, they said they were 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:45.520 confused about what where they should go, and there were 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.080 things about going to Paramount or going to Universal. Right, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.280 they thought, well, that's not where we work. This is 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.960 where we work. So they went on their own there right, 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.240 And then over the next Over the subsequent weeks, there 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.960 were lots of demonstrations at the studios, like I remember 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:03.920 going to Universal Studios. There was a big one on 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.520 the Avenue of the Stars, like they took over the 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:10.639 whole that whole block in Century in Century City, the 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:16.800 Giant March. But that was a crazy, crazy time. Yeah, 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:23.600 I remember. It was all very confusing because ultimately the 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:28.080 actors supported what the writers were doing, and the writers 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.879 were in a way they were fighting the fight for 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:35.840 all artists. But at the same time, I remember talking 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.920 to my representation and going like, what you know, and 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.520 they said, well, you know, you have to show up, 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.560 like you can't not show up. And you know some 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:49.720 of the writers have talked about it was Steve not 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:55.720 showing up, and apparently he got calls from the network 0:20:55.800 --> 0:21:01.199 executives and lawyers and was told you have to show up, 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.879 show up to work, to work, not to the picking, 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.040 to show up to work, and he just said, no, 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:14.160 you're gonna do. How long the strike was three hundred days. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.960 Three months, a little over three months. Yeah, I it's 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:24.280 you know, since then, I've been in so many different 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.880 parts of this industry now, on different sides of things, 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:34.399 and and you know, unions are complicated, but they are 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:40.520 so necessary. They're just the ultimate bulwark against exploitation. Not 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.520 to get political here, but it just like being on 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.560 the front lines of that, and and that there were 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.639 a handful of show runners that really led the charge 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:55.080 and took strong positions, and Greg was super inspirational through 0:21:55.160 --> 0:22:00.280 all that. Greg's a soft spoken guy, but he is huff, 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:09.359 you know, like he's he's tough. He fights for and 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:14.440 stands by what he believes. And in the case of 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:19.800 the writer strike, that was about principle and what was 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:23.560 right or wrong. And yeah, it's good to be on 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:29.080 Greg's side. Always good to be on correct side. Yes, Um, 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:33.600 do you remember your impression when you heard Steve was leaving? 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.840 I guess maybe more were you afraid that the show 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:41.879 couldn't survive or were you confident that it could go forward? 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:47.080 I think I felt pretty confident that the show could 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:51.760 morph into a different thing. And I just had so 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.000 much confidence in Greg and in the writing staff. And 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:59.240 there had been that there were so many experiments that 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.000 we all kind of went through it narratively on the 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.280 show that sometimes they worked and sometimes it didn't, and 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.800 if they didn't, you just would kind of it would 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:10.000 veer away from that thing, and it seemed like there 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.520 would be like, if anybody can do it, it's the 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:17.920 Office writing staff, right, you know. I mean that's not 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:24.560 to diminish the unimaginably massive blow that his departure is was, 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:30.119 but I I think that the show felt bigger than 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:33.960 any one person at that point, if that's if that 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:39.560 makes sense, Yeah, it is, though a credit to you. 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.399 I mean, much like Steve with forty year old Virgin, 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:48.800 part of the way into your time on the Office, 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:53.320 you became a giant movie star too with the Hangover, 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:56.240 and I think you deserve a lot of credit for 0:23:56.320 --> 0:24:01.119 that for not only staying around but be energized and 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.720 continue to work on your character and on the show 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:10.520 with great integrity. Thanks. That's very very kind of you. Um. 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:16.159 I just love The Office and I kind of never 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.960 wanted it to end, and I loved I think loving 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.480 The Office really is about just loving the people and 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:26.840 loving that cast and crew, and it's really feeling like 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:34.280 a family and just wanting to step up and deliver 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.280 for everybody's sake all the time. You know, shooting those 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:45.439 movies was often exhausting because it was concurrent with the Office. 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.760 I don't think a lot of people know or understand 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.520 quite how crazy some of that was. But I was 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.720 shooting crossboarded episodes, meaning like I would do two days 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:59.160 on the Office, I was shooting the Office Monday and Tuesday, 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:03.600 and then the hang Over Wednesday through Sunday. It's insane. 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:06.159 I mean, that was crazy. And then a lot of 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.600 that hangover stuff was nighttime, so I just was like 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:14.159 a zombie. Um. But it was so fun and no 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.200 one ever, I never felt kind of judged or or 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:23.879 slighted by anyone. I felt fully supported, And I just 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:29.320 I knew that if I slipped or or didn't wasn't 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.480 there for everybody else, then I had no right to 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:35.120 be doing going off and doing these movies. I had 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:40.040 to show up for the Office and still be fully present. 0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:46.400 And and it helped that that I that it's so fun. 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:48.800 I mean, I keep going back to that. It was 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.240 just the only way I could do that was because 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.879 the Hangover was fun, but the Office was fun. And 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.280 the Office was the thing that I knew and I loved, 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:03.480 and I knew I wanted to do right by the 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:10.840 Office always. Yeah, did you feel like it was the 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:17.720 right time to end after season nine? I think so. Um. 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:23.600 I mean at that point, I think my my disposition 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:27.600 had shifted a little bit. I was starting to look 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.320 the bigger picture of my life and career and and 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:37.679 my personal goals. And I think, you know, candidly, there 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:43.000 were some ways that Andy There's just some storylines there 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:46.320 towards the end that that confused me a little bit, 0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:51.280