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Speaker 1: All right, hello everybody, and welcome back. This is the
Speaker 1: Office Deep Dive and as always I'm your host, Brian Baumgartner.
Speaker 1: And guess what that was my mouth? Today is the day? Actually,
Speaker 1: today is actually the day for a few things. But
Speaker 1: first up, I, oh my gosh, I'm so excited to
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Speaker 1: all your friends, anyone in your contacts list. You will
Speaker 1: not regret it all right now, I also have another
Speaker 1: big announcement to tell you about at the end of
Speaker 1: this episode, so make sure you stay tuned after the
Speaker 1: interview and and find out what in the world that
Speaker 1: could be. Trust me, it is good. And lastly, what
Speaker 1: you all came here for my very special guest that
Speaker 1: is returning for part two of our conversation, the Nord
Speaker 1: Dog himself, Ed Helms. Now, if you haven't all already,
Speaker 1: make sure you go and listen to part one, but
Speaker 1: then come right back here, because I've been saving the
Speaker 1: best for last. Yes, that's right, the last. I'm starting
Speaker 1: to wrap up the interviews, which I know is very
Speaker 1: bitter sweet. But the good news is over the next
Speaker 1: few weeks you're going to hear a few of my
Speaker 1: very favorite episodes with some of my favorite guests, and
Speaker 1: you also may hear some of yourself. But that being said,
Speaker 1: today's interview truly is it is. It's one of my
Speaker 1: favorites because you get to see Ed in a different way.
Speaker 1: Right Ed is known for playing these kind of loud, bumbling,
Speaker 1: I mean hilarious but maybe slightly obnoxious characters. Right but
Speaker 1: Ed himself, he's just he is so not that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is hilarious and and he's a comedy nerd. We
Speaker 1: talked about that, but today what you're going to get
Speaker 1: to see is a very sweet, thoughtful side of Ed
Speaker 1: because that's who he is, and I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Things get a little emotional so here he is the
Speaker 1: incomparable Mr ed Helms. Bubble and Squeak. I love it
Speaker 1: Bubble and squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cookie every month.
Speaker 1: Left over from the night before you said you were
Speaker 1: a comedy nerd. What what was it about The Office
Speaker 1: when you started initially watching it that you felt like
Speaker 1: you were seeing something different? What? What? What was that? Well?
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't. I didn't even I
Speaker 1: wasn't able to sort of understand what I liked about it.
Speaker 1: But what I do think is kind of hilarious is
Speaker 1: that all of the awkwardness and the tension that we
Speaker 1: think is so funny our parents generation, especially as Southern parents,
Speaker 1: like you know, repression is a very powerful force in
Speaker 1: Southern families, and and that the awkwardness is is so intolerable.
Speaker 1: And even on the Daily Show, especially with the field pieces,
Speaker 1: the correspondent field pieces, it was all about finding extremely
Speaker 1: tense moments and you know, you read we would revel
Speaker 1: in the awkwardness and try to foster awkwardness with people,
Speaker 1: um because that tension is funny. Uh, And that that's
Speaker 1: sort of my postmortem aun Hoss, Like I didn't quite
Speaker 1: I didn't never understood that at the time, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't understand why, why why our parents generation didn't think
Speaker 1: The Office was funny, Like, well, how do you not
Speaker 1: get this? But I understand now that that um because
Speaker 1: I think I've seen more extreme versions of it that
Speaker 1: make me uncomfortable at times, and I can see like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just it's like calibrating, like what's right here. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a number of fans who come up to me,
Speaker 1: huge fan, I'm the biggest fan of the show. I
Speaker 1: can't watch Scott's Taughts like Scott's Taughts somehow puts it
Speaker 1: over the line. Dinner party is sort of like the
Speaker 1: straddling the straddling of the line, but Scott's Taughts too,
Speaker 1: people are like no, And so I started to analyze, like, well,
Speaker 1: why is that? And I think it's kind of what
Speaker 1: you were talking about about the Daily Show, which was
Speaker 1: most of the cringing moments were happening to us, right,
Speaker 1: the office workers, ourselves, whereas Scott's Taughts suddenly was about
Speaker 1: these kids and that that's rough. That's rough. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: fun to see, like if your heroes are low status,
Speaker 1: the heroes of the show are low status, it's fun
Speaker 1: to see them squirm. But when you see like regular
Speaker 1: people squirm, and and that's on the Daily Show, you know,
Speaker 1: we would try to make the bad guy squirm, right,
Speaker 1: whoever the villain of a piece of a field piece was.
Speaker 1: But I don't know why is that funny? Why is
Speaker 1: squirming so funny? I mean, the most extreme versions were
Speaker 1: all of Sasha Cohen's stuff, right, the borat and the
Speaker 1: alleg It's it's a powerful it's it's it's an incredible
Speaker 1: mechanism for satire, but it is it can be polarizing
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Um, when well, let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: had had you done much physical comedy before the Office?
Speaker 1: Did you feel like that was something that you did well?
Speaker 1: I did. I had done a lot of improv, which
Speaker 1: is obviously a lot of um, you know, very broad
Speaker 1: physical stuff on stage. And I you know, I started
Speaker 1: by doing stand up in New York City, and I
Speaker 1: actually knew John Krasinski from that. He started by going
Speaker 1: to New York and kind of dipping his toe in
Speaker 1: the stand up world. But we we were acquaintances back
Speaker 1: back then. But that's just a funny side note. What
Speaker 1: was I saying before, oh, physical comedy. So in my
Speaker 1: stand up I kind of fancied myself like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like a sort of sand Luri or Brian Reagan, like
Speaker 1: a perform like someone who acted out his my bits.
Speaker 1: And so there was a lot of physicality there. And
Speaker 1: then the Daily Show. I think part of what was
Speaker 1: fun about that was being a very stuffy reporter but
Speaker 1: breaking that mold and ridiculous ways sometimes physical. And so
Speaker 1: I don't write, oh, did you really sing acapella at Oberlin? Um?
Speaker 1: I did. There was a group called the Oberlin Overtones.
Speaker 1: That there is, I should say a group called the
Speaker 1: Oberlin Overtones, and I was in that group for one
Speaker 1: semester my freshman year. I don't know, maybe it was
Speaker 1: my it was spring of my freshman year and fall
Speaker 1: of my sophomore year and then and then I didn't
Speaker 1: do it anymore. Was that a joke that you pitched
Speaker 1: them on, Andy, or that was just going that's yeah?
Speaker 1: That was that I think was something that you know,
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of Harvard writers like using
Speaker 1: Cornell as a punching bag, right, That's that's a little
Speaker 1: bit of what was going on with Andy Greg being
Speaker 1: Harvard and Mike Schuer and a couple others. But I
Speaker 1: had no baggage with Cornell, but I still just loved
Speaker 1: the I don't know, it seemed like a fun thing
Speaker 1: to make fun of. And so the acapella character trait
Speaker 1: was that just was he was endowed with that in
Speaker 1: the writing process. And but it is something that I
Speaker 1: understood implicitly and I got Acapella is sided. It is
Speaker 1: such an interesting art form because it is so fun
Speaker 1: to do, but it is kind of excruciating to watch
Speaker 1: or listen to. And I mean no disrespect to acapella
Speaker 1: aficionados out there, I just because my own relationship with
Speaker 1: it is complex. I have a love hate thing, and
Speaker 1: I think especially in college acapella groups, there's a strong
Speaker 1: association with kind of a a very clicky, smug, arrogant vibe. Right.
Speaker 1: It's almost like a like certain preppy fraternities or something.
Speaker 1: And even though the Oberlin overtones were actually not like
Speaker 1: that at all. There's really no part of Oberlin that's preppy.
Speaker 1: And um, it's something that made sense and it really
Speaker 1: informed Andy in lots of ways that the creation of
Speaker 1: Andy profile was one of the most thrilling creative endeavors
Speaker 1: of my life, because you know, if it was the
Speaker 1: acapella thing, I would just start singing on set at
Speaker 1: wrong times and then the writers would see that and
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, that's fun, and then they'd write in
Speaker 1: more singing. And that's just one example. There were so
Speaker 1: many little details that started to kind of slot in,
Speaker 1: like a Tetris game about who Andy was, and it
Speaker 1: was this feedback loop, and Mike Scher in particular had
Speaker 1: a real shine for Andy and we just had so
Speaker 1: much fun. Like I would go to the writer's room
Speaker 1: and just joke around with Mike about who Andy is
Speaker 1: and what made us laugh about him. And that was
Speaker 1: another thing that I think made the office so special
Speaker 1: is that the collaboration between the writers and the cast
Speaker 1: was next level, right. I Mean, there were cast members
Speaker 1: that were writers to begin with, but then I always
Speaker 1: felt like the writer's room was an open door and
Speaker 1: that when the writers were on set, it was always
Speaker 1: a conversation and like what, like, how do we have
Speaker 1: more fun with this character or what what can we
Speaker 1: come up with? And everyone was open minded and that
Speaker 1: it's that kind of best idea wins mentality that leads
Speaker 1: to great stuff yeah, I agree with you a thousand percent.
Speaker 1: And Greg told me that he wanted that opened up
Speaker 1: as a workshop for the writers actually because he believed
Speaker 1: that the comedy in the show was so much about behavior,
Speaker 1: and you can't write behavior and so well in the beginning,
Speaker 1: you can't until you get to know a character, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're so right. There's a famous episode of
Speaker 1: Friends in which they start making fun of the way
Speaker 1: that Chandler talks, like the cadence of his speech, and
Speaker 1: it's one it's a favorite episode. It's extremely funny, but
Speaker 1: it is it. It's something that could not have been
Speaker 1: written in season one. It's something that everyone started to
Speaker 1: understand implicitly, and it took a writer being like, that's funny,
Speaker 1: Like that's a really specific funny thing about Chandler, and
Speaker 1: if the other characters clock it, we can write to it.
Speaker 1: But that's really cool to hear. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: But you're you're so right. I mean, for Greg to
Speaker 1: be ahead of that. Writing always gets better on a
Speaker 1: TV show as the writers learned the behavior of characters.
Speaker 1: But to start with that ethos of like we are
Speaker 1: behavior forward, that's awesome. Yeah, Greg's awesome. That's awesome. It's
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Speaker 1: during the writer's strike and coming out to the picket
Speaker 1: line that was happening and what a difference that made
Speaker 1: for them as they were having a difficult emotional time
Speaker 1: picketing their own show. Do you recall anything about that? Yeah? Absolutely, Um,
Speaker 1: I just remember everyone felt a lot of tension, like
Speaker 1: am I a part of this fight? Or am I?
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I support the writers, but I'm there's
Speaker 1: some it's scary a little bit like it just felt
Speaker 1: so baffling, and I think in hindsight, I've I really
Speaker 1: appreciate what how courageous that was. And yeah, there were
Speaker 1: a bunch of there were a bunch of picket lines
Speaker 1: that I remember going to the first day was on
Speaker 1: our little lot up in van Nis, right. It was
Speaker 1: just our writing staff and um, they said they were
Speaker 1: confused about what where they should go, and there were
Speaker 1: things about going to Paramount or going to Universal. Right,
Speaker 1: they thought, well, that's not where we work. This is
Speaker 1: where we work. So they went on their own there right,
Speaker 1: And then over the next Over the subsequent weeks, there
Speaker 1: were lots of demonstrations at the studios, like I remember
Speaker 1: going to Universal Studios. There was a big one on
Speaker 1: the Avenue of the Stars, like they took over the
Speaker 1: whole that whole block in Century in Century City, the
Speaker 1: Giant March. But that was a crazy, crazy time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember. It was all very confusing because ultimately the
Speaker 1: actors supported what the writers were doing, and the writers
Speaker 1: were in a way they were fighting the fight for
Speaker 1: all artists. But at the same time, I remember talking
Speaker 1: to my representation and going like, what you know, and
Speaker 1: they said, well, you know, you have to show up,
Speaker 1: like you can't not show up. And you know some
Speaker 1: of the writers have talked about it was Steve not
Speaker 1: showing up, and apparently he got calls from the network
Speaker 1: executives and lawyers and was told you have to show up,
Speaker 1: show up to work, to work, not to the picking,
Speaker 1: to show up to work, and he just said, no,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do. How long the strike was three hundred days.
Speaker 1: Three months, a little over three months. Yeah, I it's
Speaker 1: you know, since then, I've been in so many different
Speaker 1: parts of this industry now, on different sides of things,
Speaker 1: and and you know, unions are complicated, but they are
Speaker 1: so necessary. They're just the ultimate bulwark against exploitation. Not
Speaker 1: to get political here, but it just like being on
Speaker 1: the front lines of that, and and that there were
Speaker 1: a handful of show runners that really led the charge
Speaker 1: and took strong positions, and Greg was super inspirational through
Speaker 1: all that. Greg's a soft spoken guy, but he is huff,
Speaker 1: you know, like he's he's tough. He fights for and
Speaker 1: stands by what he believes. And in the case of
Speaker 1: the writer strike, that was about principle and what was
Speaker 1: right or wrong. And yeah, it's good to be on
Speaker 1: Greg's side. Always good to be on correct side. Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: do you remember your impression when you heard Steve was leaving?
Speaker 1: I guess maybe more were you afraid that the show
Speaker 1: couldn't survive or were you confident that it could go forward?
Speaker 1: I think I felt pretty confident that the show could
Speaker 1: morph into a different thing. And I just had so
Speaker 1: much confidence in Greg and in the writing staff. And
Speaker 1: there had been that there were so many experiments that
Speaker 1: we all kind of went through it narratively on the
Speaker 1: show that sometimes they worked and sometimes it didn't, and
Speaker 1: if they didn't, you just would kind of it would
Speaker 1: veer away from that thing, and it seemed like there
Speaker 1: would be like, if anybody can do it, it's the
Speaker 1: Office writing staff, right, you know. I mean that's not
Speaker 1: to diminish the unimaginably massive blow that his departure is was,
Speaker 1: but I I think that the show felt bigger than
Speaker 1: any one person at that point, if that's if that
Speaker 1: makes sense, Yeah, it is, though a credit to you.
Speaker 1: I mean, much like Steve with forty year old Virgin,
Speaker 1: part of the way into your time on the Office,
Speaker 1: you became a giant movie star too with the Hangover,
Speaker 1: and I think you deserve a lot of credit for
Speaker 1: that for not only staying around but be energized and
Speaker 1: continue to work on your character and on the show
Speaker 1: with great integrity. Thanks. That's very very kind of you. Um.
Speaker 1: I just love The Office and I kind of never
Speaker 1: wanted it to end, and I loved I think loving
Speaker 1: The Office really is about just loving the people and
Speaker 1: loving that cast and crew, and it's really feeling like
Speaker 1: a family and just wanting to step up and deliver
Speaker 1: for everybody's sake all the time. You know, shooting those
Speaker 1: movies was often exhausting because it was concurrent with the Office.
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people know or understand
Speaker 1: quite how crazy some of that was. But I was
Speaker 1: shooting crossboarded episodes, meaning like I would do two days
Speaker 1: on the Office, I was shooting the Office Monday and Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and then the hang Over Wednesday through Sunday. It's insane.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was crazy. And then a lot of
Speaker 1: that hangover stuff was nighttime, so I just was like
Speaker 1: a zombie. Um. But it was so fun and no
Speaker 1: one ever, I never felt kind of judged or or
Speaker 1: slighted by anyone. I felt fully supported, And I just
Speaker 1: I knew that if I slipped or or didn't wasn't
Speaker 1: there for everybody else, then I had no right to
Speaker 1: be doing going off and doing these movies. I had
Speaker 1: to show up for the Office and still be fully present.
Speaker 1: And and it helped that that I that it's so fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, I keep going back to that. It was
Speaker 1: just the only way I could do that was because
Speaker 1: the Hangover was fun, but the Office was fun. And
Speaker 1: the Office was the thing that I knew and I loved,
Speaker 1: and I knew I wanted to do right by the
Speaker 1: Office always. Yeah, did you feel like it was the
Speaker 1: right time to end after season nine? I think so. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean at that point, I think my my disposition
Speaker 1: had shifted a little bit. I was starting to look
Speaker 1: the bigger picture of my life and career and and
Speaker 1: my personal goals. And I think, you know, candidly, there
Speaker 1: were some ways that Andy There's just some storylines there
Speaker 1: towards the end that that confused me a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't as I just didn't feel like this
Speaker 1: is the same thing that I loved as much, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense, Not the show, but just sort of
Speaker 1: what in particular kind of some of what Andy was
Speaker 1: was doing or going through. And um, I just there
Speaker 1: was sort of a shift happening, I think in my
Speaker 1: life and then my my emotional state at the time,
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Speaker 1: trying to unpack like why is The Office the most
Speaker 1: watched show in television now five years later? Like what,
Speaker 1: what are the reasons? And I think that there's a chance.
Speaker 1: I recently went back and watched it the whole series,
Speaker 1: whole series, and it doesn't feel dated, And I started
Speaker 1: thinking like why, and I the only answer that I
Speaker 1: can come up with is a documentary can never feel
Speaker 1: dated because it's taking a snapshot of what was actually happening.
Speaker 1: You don't look at a documentary about the seventies and go, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's dated, right, You're just looking at that time. And
Speaker 1: that also the subject matter being an office that is
Speaker 1: not at the forefront of fashion or technology, all those things.
Speaker 1: You know, Like a movie like devilwas Product, which is
Speaker 1: so stylish and it's an amazing movie, but it will
Speaker 1: you'll feel when it was made because of all those cues.
Speaker 1: But you take up a world like under Mifflin, and
Speaker 1: those people and those props and those sets like there,
Speaker 1: those are things that would not change in that space
Speaker 1: for twenty years, right right, Like it would look the
Speaker 1: same over a long period of time. Why do you
Speaker 1: think the show We kind of talked about this, but
Speaker 1: why young people have responded so much to the show,
Speaker 1: given that it has to do with basically middle aged
Speaker 1: office workers. What m Well, you know, we can ask
Speaker 1: this question all the time, any talk show, whatever. It's
Speaker 1: the most common and and and or dinner party wherever
Speaker 1: I am. I feel like people ask me this all
Speaker 1: the time, and I'm like, I don't know, ask the kids.
Speaker 1: They're the ones who love it. Um so, but it
Speaker 1: were left to just speculate and um, and I have
Speaker 1: lots of theories. I'm sure like you do. UM. I
Speaker 1: think the simplest version is the same reason that I
Speaker 1: loved Saturday Night Live when I was a kid and
Speaker 1: I wanted to be on it. That that was like
Speaker 1: the thing that drove my entire life, was wanting to
Speaker 1: be on Saturday Night Live as a as a young person.
Speaker 1: And the reason I loved it so much from such
Speaker 1: a young age. I started watching it when I was eight.
Speaker 1: And what was so intoxicating to me, even though I
Speaker 1: didn't even get the jokes half the time, they clearly
Speaker 1: we're having so how much fun? There was something you
Speaker 1: could tell Eddie Murphy was in the zone right and
Speaker 1: I just loved that, and I that was something that
Speaker 1: I sought my whole career. And still do and and
Speaker 1: I and I think the office is one of those
Speaker 1: rare places where a lot of the time that whole
Speaker 1: cast is in the zone. Right, there's even the even
Speaker 1: when the scenes are small and there's and the performances
Speaker 1: are small and the the dialogue is intimate or whatever,
Speaker 1: it felt it felt so fun and special to be
Speaker 1: there and be a part of it. And at some
Speaker 1: level that comes across, right. There's some way that I
Speaker 1: think audiences just clock that in the same way that
Speaker 1: I did as a little kid watching Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1: And I I think that's a huge part of it.
Speaker 1: I also think that there are some contextual things ings
Speaker 1: like it's a fish bowl, it's a it's a bullpen.
Speaker 1: It's mundane, it's gettable, it's understandable. It's like and the
Speaker 1: people in that office go through so many things, but
Speaker 1: you never question whether or not they're going to be
Speaker 1: there the next day. You know, a question whether or
Speaker 1: not they kind of love each other still. You know
Speaker 1: there's something, there's something I think that makes people want
Speaker 1: to be a part of that dunder Mifflin family when
Speaker 1: they watch it, because it's it's just comfortable, um as
Speaker 1: awkward as the dialogue is and as as much tension
Speaker 1: as there was at different times in the stories. There
Speaker 1: there's a sense of belonging that everyone in that space
Speaker 1: had and everyone had a role, and it was predictable
Speaker 1: and character's behavior was predictable and understandable. And I just
Speaker 1: I think that's. Um. It takes a long time for
Speaker 1: a show to get there and think the office had
Speaker 1: that breathing room to find that. But when a show does,
Speaker 1: like Cheers or Taxi, you just love to hang out
Speaker 1: with it and be in that space. Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: you most thankful for? Mm hm and um it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so abstract, but it's like, um m um, I
Speaker 1: don't know the whole thing. Yeah, um yeah, the my
Speaker 1: last line that I said on the show, Um, it
Speaker 1: really resonates, you know. It's like those were those were
Speaker 1: good old days for sure. Yeah, it's crazy. I Um,
Speaker 1: I don't remember how long ago it was now, but
Speaker 1: I saw you post a photo of me and you
Speaker 1: and John and Rain. I think it a golden globes.
Speaker 1: We're all like in our Texas and you put that
Speaker 1: quote and it's hard to describe or put yourself back there,
Speaker 1: but it was just like it's just one of those
Speaker 1: instantly like hits you in the chest in a way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just so few times in life when when you
Speaker 1: just feel un burdened by a lot, and when there
Speaker 1: are so many times during the office that I just
Speaker 1: remember driving to work at five in the morning with
Speaker 1: a cup of coffee so psyched, right, and that that
Speaker 1: feeling of just being psyched to go to work, being
Speaker 1: psyched to go to events with my cast mates, to
Speaker 1: go hang out, get drinks with some writers, whatever. I
Speaker 1: just was psyched a lot during that whole time. And
Speaker 1: and that's an elusive thing in life. You know, life's complicated,
Speaker 1: and there are ups and downs, and most of the
Speaker 1: time we're kind of in the middle somewhere, and there's
Speaker 1: things were psyched about, but there's things were we're burdened by,
Speaker 1: scared of that are going on all the time. And
Speaker 1: at that time, I just remember being psyched a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of the time, and hanging
Speaker 1: out at base camp and our trailers, just playing tunes
Speaker 1: with Creed or just like hanging out with you just
Speaker 1: whatever gossip was going on, whatever it was. It's rare
Speaker 1: to feel like you're part of something special. And but
Speaker 1: boys are awesome when you do have that feeling, and
Speaker 1: that's I think what defined that whole time for me.
Speaker 1: I just felt special. Well Ed, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm talking and I just appreciate so much. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you and I have the longest history, you know, um
Speaker 1: on the show, and I you know, I love you,
Speaker 1: and I just I so appreciate you coming in and
Speaker 1: talking about it for a little bit. Oh man, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: You yanked some heart strings here that I wasn't expecting.
Speaker 1: But I'm grateful for it. I love it, and I
Speaker 1: love you too. And that's Ed. That is Ed. And
Speaker 1: although on the day I didn't say to Ed that
Speaker 1: he yanked my heart strings, ah, he did, and he
Speaker 1: always does. I remember when I called Ed about sitting
Speaker 1: down with me, and Ed was working on another project
Speaker 1: at the time. He was incredibly busy, and he didn't.
Speaker 1: He not only said yes, when would you like me
Speaker 1: to come in? But he said yes, when would you
Speaker 1: like me to come in? And then we started talking stories.
Speaker 1: At one point I had to say, no, Ed, stop, no, wait,
Speaker 1: I want to I don't have this, I'm not recording
Speaker 1: this right now, and I want to hear this spontaneously
Speaker 1: as you're remembering it. So let's I love talking to you,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to stop talking to you now because
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you when I have a
Speaker 1: camera or when I have a microphone in front of you. Um.
Speaker 1: But his generosity, his heart, his spirit. Um. Well, I
Speaker 1: hope you saw it because it's true. So thank you
Speaker 1: Ed for joining me, and thank all of you for
Speaker 1: listening to me, to me, to me and ed uh,
Speaker 1: thank you. And now for the second big announcement. All right, So,
Speaker 1: as you know, I have been interviewing the cast and
Speaker 1: crew of the Office, my office family for the last
Speaker 1: couple of years now, and let me tell you, I
Speaker 1: never thought that I would be doing it this long, right.
Speaker 1: My original intention was to do the oral history and
Speaker 1: write the book and that's it. But sharing these interviews
Speaker 1: with you has been truly the greatest joy of my life.
Speaker 1: Letting you get to know these actors and writers and
Speaker 1: makeup artists and stand ins and directors that that have
Speaker 1: so much to give and so much to tell. Introducing
Speaker 1: you to the people who have inspired me, that for
Speaker 1: me is what it's all about, all right. So I
Speaker 1: keep getting questions like Brian when can you bring this
Speaker 1: guest on, Brian? When are you going to do this
Speaker 1: for other shows? Well, guess what, baby, We're coming back
Speaker 1: in two, and it is going to be bigger and
Speaker 1: better than ever. We're gonna start at the top of
Speaker 1: two with guest stars from the office, people who are
Speaker 1: on just a few episodes, like the Will Ferrell's and
Speaker 1: the Kathy Bates is Is and and then we're going
Speaker 1: to expand and we're gonna start talking about some of
Speaker 1: your other favorite shows. Think Modern Family, Think Cheers, think
Speaker 1: Fresh Prince of bel Air, because those shows, well they
Speaker 1: need love to So stay with me here, same time,
Speaker 1: same place, same host, same feed, just more guests, and
Speaker 1: I promise you this, You're gonna have a fantastic time,
Speaker 1: because when I have a good time, you have a
Speaker 1: good time. Now. As for the name, it's going to
Speaker 1: be called Off the Beat. And here's the story behind that.
Speaker 1: I had a a French director that I worked with
Speaker 1: for many years, Dominique Serrant, shout out and and he
Speaker 1: taught me something that that comedy happens off the beat.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly the kind of conversation that I'm going
Speaker 1: to strive to have one that happens off of the beat,
Speaker 1: about what happens off camera in the moments between the stories,
Speaker 1: because that's the kind of stuff that I want to
Speaker 1: know about. So starting next year, you're gonna hear a
Speaker 1: new iteration of this podcast. Let's call it version two
Speaker 1: point oh, because that's what everybody names things two point oh.
Speaker 1: It'll be everything you loved about the Office, deep Dive,
Speaker 1: and so much more. But before the new year, I
Speaker 1: want to hear from all of you. All right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be doing a couple of very special call in
Speaker 1: episodes where you get to guide the conversation. That's right.
Speaker 1: I want to hear your stories. How has the Office
Speaker 1: changed your life? Is there anything that you have been
Speaker 1: dying to let me know? Do you have any spectacular
Speaker 1: or spectacularly funny stories tied in with the show, or
Speaker 1: run ins with the cast, or anything. Really, sky's the limit.
Speaker 1: I just want to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 1: You know, when I'm out in public, I often have
Speaker 1: people come up to me and tell me very, very
Speaker 1: hilarious or moving stories about their experience with the show.
Speaker 1: This is your opportunity to share those stories, not just
Speaker 1: with me, but well with everyone. So The best way
Speaker 1: to be featured on one of our call in episodes
Speaker 1: is to use use the voice Memo app on your phone,
Speaker 1: record your question or comment and then email it to
Speaker 1: us at the Office deep Dive at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: That is the Office deep Dive at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Make sure to include your name, where you're from, and
Speaker 1: then your question or comment, and don't forget to leave
Speaker 1: your number two because yes, I am going to call
Speaker 1: a few of you back and have you on this show.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it. I've announced just about everything there
Speaker 1: is to announce, So with that I will say goodbye,
Speaker 1: thank you so much again for listening, and have a
Speaker 1: great one everyone. The Office Deep Dive is hosted and
Speaker 1: executive produced by me Brian bum Gartner, alongside our executive
Speaker 1: producer Langley. Our senior producer is Tessa Kramer. Our producers
Speaker 1: are Liz Hayes and Diego Tapia. My main man in
Speaker 1: the booth is Alec Moore. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak,
Speaker 1: performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode
Speaker 1: was mixed by seth Olanski. I'm Joe Piazza, host of
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