1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Three teens including brothers behind 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: bars right now for homicide. Now, typically when I read 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: a headline that says teens boys too, team mails behind 4 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: bars for murder for homicide, I think, oh, junior predators, 5 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: baby killers. They're going to even be worse when they 6 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: grow up. But believe it or not, these three teams 7 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: have signatures demanding they be released from jail. Now. Have 8 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: you ever heard me say I want a killer release 9 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: from behind bars? Because I don't think I have ever 10 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: said that before you judge me. I want you to 11 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: hear the whole story. Why are three teen boys behind 12 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: bars for homicide? I mean, I see Grace. This is 13 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at 14 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Fox Nation and series XM one eleven. First of all, 15 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: take a listen our cut one, our Frenzy k r 16 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: GV Channel five. Homicide investigation underway in Far. That's video 17 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: from the scene in McAllen yesterday. Far police say the 18 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: body of forty two year old Gabriel Kindania was dumped 19 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: there after he was killed. Eighteen year old Alejandro Trevino, 20 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,639 Speaker 1: already in custody in connection with Anthania's death. Charges against 21 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: him pending Police now looking for seventeen year old Christian Santos. 22 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: They're also looking for a third guy believed to be 23 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: driving a red Dodge Charger. We're told the investigation stems 24 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: from a family situation. If you know where to find 25 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: Santos or have any other information related to this case, 26 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: contact for our crime Stoppers at seven eight eight four 27 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: seven seven with me an all star panel to make 28 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now. First of all, 29 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Katherine March, special Victims Liaison Sate Attorney's Office joining us. 30 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: You can find her at right Response Consulting dot com. 31 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: Karen start RightNow. Psychologists joining us out of Manhattan, Karen 32 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: start dot com. Starting with a C. Greg Scheffer, former 33 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: Phoenix Police Department detect twenty two years and specializing doctor 34 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Kendall Crowns with us, the Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County. 35 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: That's Fort Worth, Texas lecturer University Texas and Texas A 36 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: and M also faculty University Texas Medical. And first let's 37 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: go to Mark Reagan, staff reporter the Monitor that's in 38 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: the Rio Grand Valley. You can find him at my 39 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: RGV dot com. Mark, thank you so much for being 40 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: with us. I want to start first of all, with 41 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: the discovery of forty two year old Gabriel Ka. Tell 42 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: me where was his body found and in what condition? 43 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: Mister Keithania's body was found by a farmer in a 44 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: kind of a small agricultural area on the southern part 45 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: of McAllen. Which are you saying, McCallan, McAllen, McAllen, Yes, 46 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: go ahead, because I have Far, Texas right So McCallen 47 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: and Far are right next to each other. We're the 48 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: seventh largest county and in the state of Texas. And 49 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: hold on, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, Mark, Texas 50 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: is like its own country. God blessed Texas. Who doesn't 51 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: love Texas? Nobody that I know. So if you're telling 52 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: me McAllen and Far are the two biggest counties in Texas, 53 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: that must be pretty big. Tell me tell me about it. 54 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: We've got about a million people here, lots of international commerce. 55 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: And then we also are kind of surrounded by world areas, 56 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: and in those royal areas are kind of along the 57 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: edges to the south and to the north. And it's 58 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: one of them in these world areas that they found 59 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Keeth in his body. Hold no, I want to get 60 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: back to McCallen and Far. Okay, when you say there's 61 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: a lot of international commerce, what do you mean by that? Exactly? 62 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: Chances are if you eat tomatoes, they go through Far 63 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: really produce, yes, car parts, stuff of that nature. Can 64 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: you keep talking because I don't know any of this. 65 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I know how to try a murder case. 66 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: I know how to talk about trajectory of bullets and 67 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: bleeding out and the law felony murder. I know how 68 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: to crime scene tape around the house, but I don't 69 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: know anything about what you're saying. So this dead body 70 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: is found out in a rural area. You said McAllen County. 71 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: Is that what you said? No, McAllen is a city 72 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: in the county? Is Hidagbell County? Okay? I'm going to 73 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: go with the city of McCallen, Okay, city mccollun and 74 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: in a rural area, correct, right, right? And so the 75 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: case first originated with that police department, Mark Reagan with 76 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: me from the monitor, uh and Rio Grand Valley, Mark, 77 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: that is a huge area there in Texas, huge rural area. 78 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Like you just schooled me, if you eat a tomato, 79 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: it probably came through uh McAllen where exactly in this 80 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: huge rural area was Gabriel can Tee his body found 81 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: on a small little plot of farmland south of the 82 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: city of McCallen. A small plot of farmland south of McCallen. 83 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: Was he buried? No, who's just laying there in front 84 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: of God? And everybody's laying there in some in some 85 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: tall grass, laying in tall grass. I'm just curious. Did 86 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: they look for drag marks? Had he been dragged there? Dump? 87 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: There were their car or tire tracks in tall grass? 88 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what you're making me think of everybody? 89 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: We all went through the Karina Vatronto murder case, a 90 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: long own jogger case together and in the journey oh, 91 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: I hate using that word, but in the journey finding 92 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: her killer, finding her body started with her dad, Phil Vatrono, 93 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: out looking for his daughter who went jogging without him, 94 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: who was supposed to go that day. And he saw 95 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: one who's praying to God to find his daughter. He 96 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: saw one blade of tall grass bent over, and he 97 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: was told to go that way. He went that way. 98 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: He saw another blade in another blade, and he followed 99 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: it and he found his daughter's body. Mark Reagan were 100 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: there drag marks, do we know. I don't know if 101 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: they were drag marks, but they were definitely tire marks. Ah, well, 102 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: there you go. You trumped me, you big foot of me. 103 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: So there were tire marks, which tells me, oh so 104 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: much with me, Greg Cheffer, former Phoenix Police Department to 105 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: take to twenty two years, Greg, obviously that means the 106 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: same with stage. He was not killed there, he was 107 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: taken there, and his body was dumped there. Why why 108 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: do you believe that? If you do believe that, I 109 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: think it does look like they dumped the body or 110 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: whoever dumped the body, and obviously to do that to 111 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: try to hide the crime or hide the body, take 112 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: it to a different location and hopefully give them time 113 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: to either get away or to hide the body for 114 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: a period of time. You know, so very curious, Katherine Marsh. 115 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: They didn't bother to bury the body if they wanted 116 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: it hidden, but they dumped it. What does that tell 117 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: you about the killer? They were probably inexperienced and I 118 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of prior time of destroying evidence 119 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: or anything like that. It could also show that it 120 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: may have been pretty spontaneous or pretty quick because it 121 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: was just a dump. You know, Karen's dark the staging 122 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: of a scene, the hiding of a body. You and 123 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: I have talked many many times, all the way back 124 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: to court TV and would set. You and I would 125 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: sit on a dark set talking about the trial as 126 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: it unfolded in front of us. Staging the scene means 127 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: something very significant, and staging could be as simple as 128 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: moving the body. It could be as simple as putting 129 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: a blanket over the face. You and I've talked about 130 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: a case where mother was found naked in her bedroom 131 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: and the killer had put a put a weaker trash 132 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: basket over the mom's head. I mean, we see all 133 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: sorts of staging, staging to make a murder look like 134 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: a suicide. But what does staging tell you about the 135 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: identity of the killer? Karen start Well, it tells you 136 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: how the killer feels about the victim. You know, for instance, 137 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: the examples you were giving Nancy. When someone's face is 138 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: being covered, then you assume that there was concern about 139 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: them being taken care of to some extent, as absurd 140 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: as that may sound. And when I think about this 141 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: particular example, there is no staging. They just dump him 142 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: and leave him, and that tells me that they could 143 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: care less that here's a person that they disregard, feel 144 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: like he's trashed, Let him just be there, and they're 145 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: fine with that. Angry You're saying that very often seen 146 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: your stage because the killer cares about the victim. In 147 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: this case, I don't think they cared about the victim 148 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: at all. They dumped him out in a rural area, 149 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: hoping nobody would ever find his body. What do you 150 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: make of that? I agree, that's exactly what I'm saying. 151 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: The fact that they just dumped in and made no 152 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: attempt to cover him up or even to hide their 153 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: crime tells me that they were enraged. Furious spring breakers 154 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: and parents beware. The disappearance of honor student Natalie Holloway 155 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: is a warning. We had to Aruba with Natalie's mob. 156 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: What can we learn? Nancy Grace is shocking new investigation 157 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: streaming now only on Fox Nation. Sign up today Crime 158 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. To Mark Reagan joining us from 159 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: the Monitor there in the Rio Grand Valley. You can 160 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: find him at Monitor News. Hey, Mark, could you tell 161 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: me about the cod cause of death? The cause of 162 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: death is blunt force trauma. Okay, that takes them doing 163 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns. It's not always like you see in 164 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: the movies, one walked to the back of the head 165 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: the person kills over dead. Very often you find the 166 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: victim of blunt force trauma death beaten from head to toe. 167 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: Explain what it takes to kill somebody with blunt force 168 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: trauma as in this case. Well, so when you're using 169 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: blunt force trauma and just using your fists and not 170 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: a bat or a boar or something like that, you 171 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: have to hit the individual numerous times to try and 172 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: cause enough damage to kill them. Sometimes you can punch 173 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: him in the face and they fall back and they 174 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: break their skull on the sidewalk, But if that doesn't happen, 175 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: and you just have to continually hit them until you're 176 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: causing enough injury internally generally in the neck or the 177 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: skull region that it causes injury to the brain or 178 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: vital structures in the neck until they die. Also, you 179 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: can hit an individual in the abdomen as well and 180 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: cause the rupture of the liver and intestines. But again 181 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: that takes a fair amount of forest and a lot 182 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: of repetitive hitting. So Martin Reagan, what a police do 183 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: when they find Gabriel Continia there on this isolated farm. 184 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: And you said it was a small family farm plot 185 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: to whom did the plot belong or do we know 186 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: that yet? Oh, we don't know. We don't know who 187 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: it belonged to. These little splatches of farmland are pretty 188 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: pretty common in the area. So, Martin Reagan, did anyone 189 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: live on the plot? Was their home there? No, you know, 190 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: nobody lived there. Nobody lived there. What about any video surveillance? 191 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: I guess in that area, very rural area, the closest 192 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: thing you'd have to any video surveillance is going to 193 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: be maybe maybe, and probably not a red light cam. Um. Well, 194 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: actually you'd be surprised. It is rural, but it's right 195 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: up next to an urban area as you get down 196 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: close to the border, and being the nature of the border, 197 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: there are cameras everywhere. But they were able to obtain 198 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: that video surveillance. Why are three teams behind bars for 199 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: the homicide of this man, a forty two year old 200 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Gabriel Kintania. Take a listen now to far Police Chief 201 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: Andy Harvey. The second part of this, and I want 202 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: to make sure it's clear, is that there's some questions 203 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: about why is it a capital murder versus just a murder. 204 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: And it's a capital murder because Kintania was kidnapped right 205 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: when he was taken in in the everyone fifteen dropped 206 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: off somewhere else, so he was kidnapped, and then at 207 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 1: the scene where they dropped him off, they think the 208 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: Vinos they got some property that they removed, some property still, 209 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: some property from Anthenia, So that makes it a capital murder. 210 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: So I understand what they're saying to you, Katherine marsh 211 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: is that it is a capital murder because it was 212 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: what in conjunction with another felonies such as kidnapper, robbery. 213 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: That's right, So in Texas you can have a capital 214 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: murder crime when you have an intentional killing that goes 215 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: along with either a kidnapping or a robbery. And as 216 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: we heard from the police chief, he's saying, we've got 217 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: the elements here of a kidnapping, taking him from one 218 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: location to the other the field where he was found, 219 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: and then also some of his personal property was removed. 220 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: Mark Reagan, I'm very curious what is the property that 221 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: was still because that makes it sounds sound like the 222 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: three the two brothers and the friend were after the 223 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: alleged victim, Gabriel kent Quantinea to rob him the bri 224 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: The piece of property that was stolen was actually very personal. 225 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: It was a watch. I believe it was a gold 226 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: watch that Christian gave his stepfather for a birthday or 227 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: a Christmas And the last thing Christian does after dumping 228 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: his stepdad in the field and he takes that watch back, 229 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: and that's the piece of property that was stolen. What 230 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: does that tell you, Karen Stark, so symbolist, Nancy, I mean, 231 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: if you think about what we're talking about with them 232 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: just dumping the body, he's saying, absolutely made a mistake 233 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: in giving you this watch. You don't deserve anything, and 234 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm taking no one else. It tells me, Karen Stark. 235 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: It tells me that at some point this teen boy 236 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: has now just turned seventeen, cared about out the stepfather, 237 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: Gabriel Kntonia enough for a young boy who doesn't have 238 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: much to get the money to buy the stepfather a 239 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: gold watch. And then I mean, when you have a 240 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: breakup or something like that, Karen Starr, you want I 241 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: want my stuff back, you want your stuff back, because 242 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: it means something because you were, let's just say, in 243 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: love and you feel betrayed and you want your stuff 244 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: back to me. I can just see this teen boy 245 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: taking that gold watch that he had given his stepfather 246 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: back after he had beat him so badly, because at 247 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: one time he cared for the stepfather. That's the picture 248 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: that is so clear, Nancy. That betrayal is the word 249 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: you use that comes to mind. That he loved him 250 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: and cared about him and got a gold not just 251 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: a regular watch, but a gold watch. And it was 252 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: so hurt, betrayed, angry that he grabbed that back. He 253 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: made sure after killing him, he took the time to 254 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: take that mutch from finding out more about how the 255 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: murder unfold, to take a listen to for a police 256 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: chief Andy Harvey cut Ten. They found him on veteran's 257 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: road walking and so a third assault happened. So this 258 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: continues and it's the third time that they meet. Well 259 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: of what we learned now that during the second assault, 260 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: I believe Christian had some brass knuckles, So brass knuckles 261 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: were using these assaults. So they continued to assault Ya, 262 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: and they this time they severely beat him to the 263 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: point where he's either unconscious or close to it. They 264 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: then decided to pick him up, kidnap him, put him 265 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: in back of the F one fifty in the bed, 266 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: and drive off to somewhere in South McCallen. He was 267 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: dropped off somewhere in the Whalen and McCall area. That's 268 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: where the McCallan Police Department was called and that's where 269 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: they found him later that day. We understand that he 270 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: was unconscious but breathing at the time, but nonetheless Kidania 271 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: died there at the in the open field. M You know, 272 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lot of people crying over this murder. 273 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: Think about it a murder with the use of brass knuckles. 274 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: To doctor Kinnell, Crown's chief medical examiner joining us out 275 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: of Tarrant County, that's for worth explain what brass knuckles 276 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: do and why that's different from punching somebody with your fist. 277 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: So what brass knuckles are is they go over your 278 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: fingers and they are standardly metal. They can be shaped 279 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: in a way that they can have edges or even 280 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: points on them. And what they make you're punching more efficient, 281 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: So they cause more tissue damage with each punch because 282 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: the metal can cause more damage. And then again, if 283 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: they're shaped, it can also cause paring or punctures or 284 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: things like that. So breass knuckles make your punches better 285 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: or harder. Doctor Kennel Crown spoken like a true MD, 286 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: a medical doctor, a medical examer. Greg Shepherd break it 287 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: down for me. What do brass knuckles do? Because great damage. 288 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna increase your damage. You punch somebody in the 289 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: face with brass knuckles, it's gonna be lights out. And 290 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: if you hit them multiple times, you could crush the skull, 291 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: cause hemorrhaging to the brain. And also it protects the hand. 292 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't cause the person using them. They don't worry 293 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: about breaking their knuckles when they're breaking the facestating. It's 294 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: devastating to whoever is taking those punches. So why again, people, 295 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: what these three from behind bars? Take a listen to 296 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: our cut two Carina Vargas CBS four. Three teens were 297 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: charged today for the murder of a forty three year 298 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: old man. We first brought you this story Thursday when 299 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: far police were searching for suspects after the death of 300 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: Gabriel Quintanilla, and then on Friday, investigators linked three teens 301 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: you can see on your screen. On the left is 302 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 1: seventeen year old Christian Trevigno, in the center eighteen year 303 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: old Alejandro Travigno, and on the right is nineteen year 304 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: old Juan Eduardo Melendez. Ythania was found in a McCallen 305 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: fields and police say that several fights broke out at 306 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: different locations after Gintania was accused of touching his nine 307 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: year old daughter, who was also the half sibling two brothers. 308 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: Kitania was left in a field severely beaten. Investigation revealed 309 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: that the victim was heard beaten with the brass knuckles 310 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: and suffered severe hittram. At that point, all of the 311 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: victim was ever written beaten. The victim I still have 312 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: been alive when he was there. And McCallan we don't 313 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: know for how long. Obon has been set at five 314 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars for all suspects. Crime stories with Nancy 315 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: Grace straight out to Mark Reagan joining us from the monitor. 316 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: So bottom line, these three teams, two of them brothers, 317 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: were convinced the stepfather, Gabriel Kiddania, had been molesting the 318 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: nine year old little sister. Is that right? Oh yeah, 319 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: that's that's right. On that day, the child had made 320 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: an outcry to the mother, and the and the and 321 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: the boys found out about it. But that's just part 322 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: of the story. Take a listen to our cut six again. 323 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: For Police Chief Andy Harvey, this warrant was for a 324 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: separate offense, not the nine year old. We were not 325 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: aware and we were not aware of any history. Mark Reagan, 326 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: another child molestation victim. There's a warrant for a separate offense. 327 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: What that's correct? And we know very little about the 328 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: details of that warrant. Well, what do you know what 329 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: the warrant was for, Yes, continuous sexual abuse of a child, 330 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: and not this nine year old little girl, a different 331 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: little girls, nine year old girl. Can I just ask, theoretically, 332 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: what was he doing out and in the home with 333 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: a nine year old little girl? Why was he there? 334 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: Shouldn't that be have been a condition for if you 335 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: got a warrant for you, I mean, why was he 336 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: allowed to be in the home with a nine year 337 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: old girl. It's really hard for me to understand why 338 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: the girl's mother would let him in the home unless 339 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: she didn't know about it. Those are just a few 340 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: questions running through my mind. Let's take a listen to 341 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: cut six again the police chief Andy Harmy, start from 342 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: the top. Police, this warrant was for a separate offense, 343 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: not the nine year old. We were not aware and 344 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: we were not aware of any history between Kinthania and 345 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: his nine year old girl, which allegually happen on Wednesday night. 346 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: So we just don't have enough information about that because 347 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: that's still an ongoing investigation. So those are two separate incidents. 348 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: We had not heard from Kentthania. Obviously, he's been running 349 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: from us and we didn't know of him until he 350 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: was found deceased in McAllen and ongoing investigation and other words, 351 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: this guy's walking free after he's accused molesting one little girl. 352 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: He's walking free because of an ongoing investigation. They don't 353 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: even know where he is. Take a listen to our 354 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: cut number four kr gvs. Monica Danda. That warrant for 355 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: gay rookie Danija for continuous sexual abuse of a child 356 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: was from another incident and that involved another minor, not 357 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: the miner currently involved in this case. We're also learning 358 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: tonight the mother of the Travino brothers may face charges. 359 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: The detectives went out to look for Kintania at that 360 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: time and were unable to find him. They searched, They 361 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: went to his last known residence. They went to his 362 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: mother's residence multiple times. Far Police first learned about gay 363 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: rookie Danija in twenty nineteen when a miner claimed King 364 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Danija sexually assaulted her between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen. 365 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: He was being elusive, obviously and hiding from US Chief 366 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: Harvey telling us. King Danija's name was then entered in 367 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: a national database and he'd been on the run ever since. 368 00:24:53,880 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: So the ongoing three years of Chamla station alleged going 369 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: back to two thousand and sixteen. There was a warrant 370 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: taken out in two thousand nineteen. Now you know what 371 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: straight back out to you, Mark Reagan, I'm just ad 372 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: JD A Juris doctorate. I'm not good at math. But 373 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: let's see two thousand nineteen, two thousand and twenty, two 374 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty one, two thousand twenty two. There's been 375 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation for four years on molestation that started 376 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and sixteen. Are my numbers correct? Mark? 377 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: Your numbers are correct, But from twenty nineteen to twenty two, 378 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: it's been find the fugitives, you know, find the fugitive? Well, 379 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: did he live there? Did he live in either mccallend 380 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: or far? From what I understand, he lived in fart 381 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: And what's the population of Far Texas? Oh? You know, 382 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: it's it's best just to lunk the whole area. And 383 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: it's about it. It's about a million growsing. This guy's 384 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: living right under their noses and they couldn't find him. 385 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: So he's out walking free. So we can molest another 386 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: little girl that we know of. I mean, Karen Stark, 387 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: our friendly shrink from Manhattan, Karen Stark. How many times 388 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: have we talked about the fact that once somebody's caught 389 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: molest it's like DOUI. Once you catch a DOUI, they 390 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: have already driven drunk. I've forgotten how many a hundred 391 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: x times they've already driven drunk. Same thing with child molestation, 392 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: once you catch one, they've already molested what seventy times 393 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: and they've never been caught? Is that the right number? 394 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: I would say, so, Nancy Dave, they have been doing 395 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: this for many, many years. They can't stop them. I'm 396 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: so mad right now, I could chew a nail in 397 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: half Karen Stark. When children aren't molested, they go on. 398 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: From the outside looking in, it seems like they're having 399 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: a normal life. They're not. What are some of the 400 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: side effects of child molestation on the but it influences everything, Nancy. 401 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: They're not able to perform well in school. Sometime it's trauma, 402 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: so they can't sleep at night. They relive the incident. 403 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: They don't feel comfortable around adults or people in general. 404 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: Sometimes they develop a lot of phobias. It's a terrible, 405 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: terrible thing, as you know, to do that to a child. 406 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: Their life is never the same, that feeling of helplessness. 407 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: To Greg Sheffer, former Phoenix PD detective twenty two years 408 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: specializing and child sex exploitation crimes against children, jump in, Greg, 409 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: this is not a tea party over at high Growth, 410 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: all right. We're talking about a child molester that has 411 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: now been murdered. The sons had to take the law 412 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: into their own hands. Well, when I heard about it, 413 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: it sounds like they walked at warrant through, so I 414 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: don't think he was ever in custody for that prior. 415 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: Explain what you just said walking through, Well, it sounds 416 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: like they never arrested him for that prior case, but 417 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: they wanted to, and then he was in the wind, 418 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: and so they walked that warrant through, which means they 419 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: went through either a grand jury to get an indictment 420 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: so they could get a warrant to issue it and 421 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: put it in the system so they could try to 422 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: pick him up. So I don't know the details of 423 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: that prior case, but obviously it was extensive. It was 424 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: a two year crime of continuous sexual abuse. And obviously, 425 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: if he lived in that town, his family knew about 426 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: that as well, so that that was not a secret crime. 427 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure mom knew about it, and anybody associated with 428 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: knew about that. But then when he did the repeat 429 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: and he actually harmed someone closer to home, I think 430 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: that's what enraged the brothers and cause, Okay, I'm getting 431 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: a limb here, Katherine Mars. Just based on what we 432 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: know right now, if there had been ongoing sex molestation 433 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: in the last case where he was walking free, that 434 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: tells me ongoing a couple of years at least, a 435 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: molesting a little girl. He had access to her like 436 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: a parent, a stepfather, and uncle, a piano teacher something 437 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: like that where he had access to a child alone. 438 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: Now doesn't that sound a lot like a similar transaction 439 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: to you, because here you got a nine year old 440 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: girl allegedly being molested by Gabriel Kintania same thing absolutely 441 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: seconds the first How long, how loudly do we have 442 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: to sing? This is a man who has been in 443 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: a position of trust and care for at least two 444 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: young people that we know, he abused that trust and 445 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: sexually molested them. And what we know is there was 446 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: enough evidence for the first incident, the court or a 447 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: commissioner from probable cause for that crime and issued a warrant. 448 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: And the real travesty is from two thousand and nineteen, 449 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: that warrant was not served and this little nine year 450 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: old girl was also molested, and I'd bet you bottom 451 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: dollar other girls were molested as well. Guys, take a 452 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: listen to our cut five from KRGV. Police have arrested 453 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: three teens, including Kintanija's stepsons Alejandro and Christian Trevigno, and 454 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: a third male, Mediz. According to police, they beat Kindanija 455 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: after hearing he had allegedly sexually abused another miner who 456 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: was also a family member. Now two of the teams 457 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: facing capital murder charges. Capital murder because Kintania was kidnapped 458 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: right when there. He was taken in in the back 459 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: of the everyone fifteen dropped off somewhere else, so he 460 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: was kidnapped, and then at the scene where they dropped 461 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: him off, the thinking the Vinos they got some property 462 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: that they removed some property or still some property from Kingthenia. 463 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: We also asked Chief Harvey, if there's a possibility the 464 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: boy's mother could face charges, Mark, why would the teen 465 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: boys mother be arrested? What's the reasoning there? If she 466 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: knew that Kingtania had diswarned and she didn't turn him in, 467 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: that would be hindering apprehension or prosecution. Wait a minute, 468 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: the law would expect her to turn in her own husband. Yes, okay, 469 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: that's probably not going to happen. But what I'm more 470 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: concerned about, Mark Reagan, and of course you're absolutely right, 471 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: But what I'm more concerned about if the mom knew 472 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: about the alleged prior sex melitation molestation they went on 473 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: for allegedly years on another little girl, why would she 474 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: have him around the nine year old daughter? And Mark 475 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Reagan also the nine year old alleged child molestation victim 476 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: at the hands of now dead Gabriel Kintania. That's her daughter, right, 477 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: that's correct. And her half brothers, her step brothers, are 478 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: Christian and Alejandro. Correct, that's right. So from what I understand, 479 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: the little girl admits that the dad, Gabriel Kintania, is 480 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: molesting her, and the boys go and they go look 481 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: for him, and they find them. Right, that's right, and 482 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 1: they kill him. Right, that's right, they kill him. I 483 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: think one thing you can note though, is Alejandro owing 484 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: participated in the first meeting, then Christian and his friend 485 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: one go track him down the second time, then the 486 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: third time. Take a listen to our cut three k 487 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: R g V. The three teens on screen now arraigned 488 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: for the murder of a man in McCallen of our 489 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: Police say the trio severely beat forty two year old 490 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: Gabriel King Dania and dumped his body in a McCallen field. 491 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: We first told you about this story on Thursday when 492 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: police discovered the body. Officials tell us the incident started 493 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: when a child alerted someone that Keith Dania had touched 494 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: them inappropriately. After the teams confronted Kentthania. A fight broke 495 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: out and continued at several locations before he was dumped 496 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: in McCallen. Police believed Keith Dania may have been alive 497 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: when he was dropped off. Keithania was already wanted by 498 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: police for ongoing abuse of a child. All three teens 499 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: have been charged with aggravated assault and engaging and in 500 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: criminal activity. Christian Travino and Juan and Guado Melendez also 501 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: charged with capital murder and a lot of questions we're 502 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: finding the answers to them. Now take a listen to 503 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: our cut eight police Chaef again. January twenty first, our 504 00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: detectives met with Alejandro, the eighteen year old and he 505 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: talked about a fight that took place at twelve to 506 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: one piece more trailer. It's a trailer Part one forty 507 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: in Boby Alejandr and Christian his brother and what they 508 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: have what they heard was to be in alleged touched 509 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: by their stepdad, Kintania with their sister nine year old sister. 510 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: They learned that their stepdad had inappropriately touched her his 511 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: nine year old which is their stepsister half half sister. 512 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: Which is also important to note that the nine year 513 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: old that was the victim. This is her biological dad. 514 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: Kintani has her biological father. It has a lot of 515 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: different legs here, So I'm trying to keep everybody kind 516 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: of up to date here. So here's a guy that's 517 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: been charged with chamla station on a little girl. Before. 518 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: I would wager somebody he's related to, because he had 519 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: access to the child to molest them over a period 520 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: of years. Nobody stopped him, get a warrant on him, 521 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: he gets walked through. In other words, they get the warrant, 522 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: he's charged, and then he's As was said earlier in 523 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: the Wind on the Loose, cops don't do their job. 524 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: They don't find him until he turns up half dead 525 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: out in a field. Because they didn't do their job, 526 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: he's free to molest again this little girl that we 527 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: know of, how many others don't know. Now, I'm not 528 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: suggesting police are responsible for the death the homicide, but 529 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: I am saying they dropped the ball and didn't put 530 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: this guy behind bars. Of course, on the other hand, 531 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: Mark Reagan, you and I were talking off camera about 532 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: jail crowding, and it was my belief that in Texas 533 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: they don't just let you out because the jail is crowded. 534 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: But am I wrong? You know, they don't just let 535 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: you out because the jail is overcrowded in like they 536 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: do in New York City and City of Atlanta and 537 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: many other big jurisdictions. They just here, give me your fingerprint, boo. 538 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: You know in New York they were actually then giving 539 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: arrestes gift cards. Mark Reagan, you know that right in 540 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: New York City, Deblasia was handing out gift cards to 541 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: people after they got I'm not aware of it. Yeah, 542 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: well now you are. Hmm. It's like you get a 543 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: prize for getting arrested. Mark Reagan joining me from the 544 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: monitor at Rio Grand Valley. Mark, the fight, let me say, 545 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: went to multiple locations. Tell me about that. I'm sure 546 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: it was kind of They caught him outside the initial 547 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: apartment complex. They beat him, he ran away on foot, 548 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: tracked him down, they beat him again. He was able 549 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: to get away one more time, and they went and 550 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: they found him a final time, and he didn't get 551 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: away that time. What is the mother saying about all 552 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: of this, Mart Reagan? Right now? Nothing publicly. All they've 553 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: been tained is we need we need money to get 554 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: a lawyer, a lawyer for the three boys, the tains 555 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: for the boys. That's right, this is what we are 556 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: learning about the way that the homicide unfold. To take 557 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: a list of our cut nine is the police chief 558 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: Andy Harvey. Again, this is what happened they found out 559 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: about this. There was a fight that ensued there inside 560 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: the trailer between the two brothers and their stepdad. There 561 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: was a fight stepdad. Kintania leaves the trailer. He walks out, 562 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: and shortly right down the road, Christian that the older 563 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: brother leaves, catches up to Kintania and there's a fight 564 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: that ensues. Well around the same time, Christian and Juan Melendez, 565 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: a friend, catch up to them. They get involved in 566 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: the fight, and so there's three against one. So the 567 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: second assault happened right down the road on more. A 568 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: few minutes later, they leave him there. He's beaten up, 569 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: but he's still conscious and walking. The three leaves drop 570 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: off Alejandro back at the house. They go to Juan's 571 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: house pick up a different car. They picked up a 572 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: white fe fifty and they decide to go back and 573 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: look for Quintania to see if they can find him again. Well, 574 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the first time that vigilante justice was 575 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: carried out. Take a listen now to our cut eighteen 576 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: from ABC. A frantic father called nine one after finding 577 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: a farmhand, he sues Floraz allegedly sexually assaulting his little girl. 578 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: The Lavaca County Histric Attorney's office released the dramatic call, Okay, 579 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad in that case the defendant who attacked his 580 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: daughter's molester was let free. So explain to me right now. 581 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: Straight back out to our friend Mark Reagan from the 582 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: Monitor in Rio Grand Valley, Where does the case stand now? 583 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: You've got at least a two time sex offender on 584 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: children allegedly walking free, and the brothers of the little 585 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: girl find him and beat him and he dies. They're 586 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: the ones behind bars. Where does the case stand right now? Mark? Well, 587 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: right now? Which the boys are going to get bondid 588 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: If you want to help in any way or find 589 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: out more, go to change dot org Justice for Alhandro 590 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: Christian and Juan. Repeat Change dot org Justice for Alejandro, 591 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: Christian and Juan. If you know of someone that is 592 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: being sex assaulted, don't just stand by and do nothing. 593 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: If you need help yourself, Toll free eight hundred six 594 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: five six, four six seven three repeat eight hundred six 595 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: five six, four six seven three Let justice be done. 596 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,