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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, June fifth, twenty twenty four. I'm Jay Skis

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Speaker 1: here in the Classic Factory and alongside me, as always tas.

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Speaker 3: Mellis podcast listeners, this one is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, a tough shot boy,

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirby, Hey, hey yo. And last but not least

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Speaker 1: over Yonder making the magic happen, super producer jd. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there he is and here we are excited for this podcast.

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Speaker 1: We got a big, big, juicy up down report, some

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Speaker 1: hot topics to throw some thumbs on, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: draft slash rank really the top fifteen players of the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals, which finally starts tomorrow. But before all that,

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Speaker 1: a little YouTube exclusive to point you two. It's called

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Speaker 1: the Glow Up. Top five players on bad teams that

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Speaker 1: could contribute to a playoff team. This was a great question.

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Speaker 1: We got a little mini beach step in podcast here

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Speaker 1: or at least YouTube exclusive, Like I said, so go

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Speaker 1: check that out. It's in the show notes if you

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Speaker 1: didn't watch that yesterday task taking us through some guys

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Speaker 1: What's Caroled Gafford?

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Speaker 3: Well, we didn't have a lot of biggs, not a

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Speaker 1: Before all that, though, we are going to draft the

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Speaker 1: How do you want to decide this What do you

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Speaker 4: Yes, trivia question. It has nothing to do with basketball.

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Speaker 4: Harry Potter Potter series of movies. Now this is from

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Speaker 4: The Harry Potter film franchise ruled the box office for

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Speaker 4: certified fresh status for every single one of its installments. Wow,

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Speaker 4: it remains one of the most successful movie sagas of

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Speaker 1: I think they even throw it maybe in their box scores.

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Speaker 5: People are still I don't imagine it's even bigger than

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Speaker 1: Come on, bro, Yeah, Daily Fantasy hughes in the finals.

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Speaker 1: Bigger than okay, and what are we gambling?

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Speaker 1: And what are we playing for?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So the only thing that's cool, Yeah, the winner

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Speaker 1: holy ship, rip it up.

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Speaker 1: summer league. Sure, sure, sure, it's the company card, guys, exactly. Okay, along,

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Speaker 1: come on, you know, tinkle the imagination a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Tatum goes number two. This is right now. I think

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Speaker 5: Do you get fantasy points for three point percentage?

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Speaker 1: Likes game score. You put it in every single one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Let us know?

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Speaker 3: You should?

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Speaker 1: I should? You're right, I should have some guts. Give

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Speaker 1: But struggled, well, he was sort of he was cold

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Speaker 5: Hmmm, I'll go I guess yeah, I think he's gonna play.

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Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's had a long time off. Yes he has KP.

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Speaker 3: I got nine ten. So it's a smart move to

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Speaker 3: take somebody from both teams. Woe so tough, but I

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Speaker 3: all right, one of the starters, it's Derek Johnes Junior

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Speaker 3: puts up stats. And the other side is Hortford with

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Speaker 1: Whoa al huh. I definitely thought you were gonna you

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely taking another.

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Speaker 1: So Horford is your pick though at the ninth spot. Okay, sure, okay,

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Speaker 3: You know what, I'm going Derek Lively Lively over Gafford. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'll go Gafford. Kat Yeah, I mean, he is still

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 5: It's not as good as Derek Lively, but he starts.

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Speaker 1: That helps. He puts up stats, he gets your numbers.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't miss.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't miss. Well, neither of those guys do. I

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Speaker 1: the conference finals, right when he goes sixteen for sixteen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: back to me, who's left? We got Derek Jones Jr. Yep,

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Speaker 1: we got Peyton Pritchard. We got maybe a Josh Green.

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Speaker 5: Back to Trey, I don't have a lot of Mavericks

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Speaker 1: Got Gafford.

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Speaker 5: That's it. So I don't know is it gonna be Green,

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Speaker 5: Hardy or Kleiba. I think Kleiba probably plays the biggest role.

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Speaker 5: But I'm a little nervous seeing how that guy played

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Speaker 5: looked good. I disagree, party though he was on fire.

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Speaker 5: Celtics don't have a bench. They got one guy on

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Speaker 5: their bench. I mean they have Pritchard too, but they

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Speaker 5: I'll go Hardy. It's exciting Hardy, Jeff Hardy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting? Is he anna here for you? Is he

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Speaker 3: gonna get burned? No? Yeah, So it's Green, Kleba, Hardway,

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Speaker 3: Dante x him. He's alive. Sam Hauser putting up points

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Speaker 3: to get to hit some shots.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't really thought about. I mean, because we were

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Speaker 1: talking about it the other day. If the Celtics win,

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Speaker 1: we think they might win and blowout sort of scenarios,

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Speaker 1: more minutes. Like if it's like a big, big lead

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Speaker 1: Sam Houser goun away for seven minutes in a blowout,

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Speaker 1: that could help you. So you're taking Sam Hauser over Green,

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Speaker 1: over Maxi Kleiba and you know, Dante X. I'm used

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Speaker 1: So let's recap those teams. My team is Luka, Doncic,

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirby. Take us through your team.

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Speaker 5: I got Jason Tatum, Drew Holliday, Kris Naps, Porzingis, Daniel Gafford,

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Speaker 1: Damn, that's solid. That's Tatum. Could Lucas gonna get monster numbers,

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Speaker 1: but Tatum is putting, is filling the box score so

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Speaker 1: overall for sure. So that's a good team, okay. And

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Speaker 1: to ask your.

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Speaker 3: Team, John Brown, Kyrier, ring, Al Horford, Derek Lively and.

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Speaker 1: Sam can't believe I got selected?

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Speaker 3: Goodness, Yes, there's question marks with the MAVs. Obviously, one

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Speaker 3: of those Greens or Klebas maybe too hard. Maybe Don

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Speaker 3: Texan will be good. Sam Houser, you know, he's the

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Speaker 3: eighth man of this Boston Celtics. Oh, he's gonna play.

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Speaker 5: Know that he's gonna play.

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Speaker 1: He has no he can't hit a shot. Right now,

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Speaker 1: he finally hit one. Maybe he's saving it all.

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Speaker 5: It's a tough last pick, you know, the last pick.

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Speaker 5: That was a tough one.

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Speaker 1: All right, So what was on the line? Pulling out

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Speaker 1: the company, carling out the company Vegas over summer league

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Speaker 1: for the meal. I don't that might have Okay, we

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Speaker 1: got some news leading into Game one on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Kristaps Porzingis is expected to return to action for Game

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Speaker 1: one of the finals against the MAVs, barring a setback.

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Speaker 1: This is a league sources. We're saying this yesterday. Shams

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Speaker 1: is all over it. Porzingis completed multiple scrimmages in recent days.

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Speaker 1: This is not a real surprise. We had been thinking that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's probably gonna go, and we were hearing like whispers

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Speaker 1: it goes five, he might return. They don't need it.

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Speaker 1: He gets even more time off, like another nine or

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Speaker 1: ten days. So here he goes KP Game one on tomorrowning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been waiting so long for Game one of

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Speaker 3: the NBA Finals. I also wanted this report to come

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Speaker 3: out with the detail as to whether or not he

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Speaker 3: was starting, because we knew he was coming back. We

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Speaker 3: knew he was on that bike. We saw that video

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Speaker 3: of him getting up on that bike putting some weight

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Speaker 3: into that stationary bicycle. That being said, the interesting part

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Speaker 3: He's gonna come off shooting the ball extremely well. The

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Speaker 3: interesting part will be him guarding Luca and Kyrie in space. Now,

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Speaker 3: I do think the Celtics are gonna have whoever is

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Speaker 3: primarily so Luca can drop off. If he's the one

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Speaker 3: being called into screens, They're gonna try and get whoever

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Speaker 3: it is, you know, whether it's Drew, Jason Tatum, or

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Speaker 3: obviously you know, Derek White or Jalen Brown to help out.

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Speaker 3: More so because I think offensively, I think Christaps Porzans

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Speaker 3: is going to be good. I went through every single

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Speaker 3: is this is a lot of weeks. This is five

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Speaker 3: plus weeks since he played on April twenty ninth, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna play on June sixth. I went through the the

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Speaker 3: this year. It was only two plus weeks where he

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Speaker 1: He was great.

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Speaker 3: Now, there was a wild one a couple of years

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Speaker 3: ago when he was a Washington Wizard. January twenty ninth

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Speaker 3: was when he played. He was out until March sixth,

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Speaker 3: so very similar to this. April twenty ninth to June sixth,

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Speaker 3: No week, the first game, Shooter was shooting the ball,

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Speaker 3: played very well. He scored I think scored twenty five

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Speaker 3: January twenty ninth to March sixth, just like he is

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Speaker 3: here from April twenty ninth to June sixth. This is

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Speaker 3: a playoff game test. That doesn't matter, Well, it does matter.

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Speaker 3: He's been out for several weeks many times in his career,

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Speaker 5: Many times this guy been out four plus weeks, I guess.

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Speaker 3: So I just I just saw the one, but yeah, five,

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Speaker 3: it's literally five plus weeks, because that's a freaking long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were sort of contemplating or you were like,

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Speaker 3: Stop, of course, that this is gamesmanship. I just we've

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Speaker 3: just been all been waiting for this game, and all

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Speaker 3: we hear is Kristaps is playing, I see watched or

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Speaker 3: watch all this tape. I would like a further addition

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Speaker 3: and at dend him something to say, hey, this dude's starting.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise it's just he's boring stories. Because we knew if.

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Speaker 1: They asked him if he's one hundred percent, he played

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Speaker 5: Well that's the thing. TASK went back and looked at

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Speaker 5: the Washington Wizards. I grinded the interview tape. That was

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Speaker 5: a long pause after is he one hundred percent?

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Speaker 1: Good question?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, they asked him, can you run pain free?

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Speaker 3: Interesting?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It was long?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Oh wow? Maybe is it gamesmanship?

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Speaker 1: Or is he sore?

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Speaker 3: That was long?

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Speaker 1: Right? Crazy?

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Speaker 3: Long?

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Speaker 5: How long he was waiting to say his status? Based

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Speaker 5: it close to the vest, trying to be like, oh

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Speaker 5: am I even coming back? Am I even gonna be good?

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Speaker 5: The guy's had a month and a half to prepare

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Speaker 3: What is funny about him prepare for the interview? Why

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Speaker 5: He took second I wasn't even putting in regular ellipses.

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Speaker 5: Three dots, No, not enough. I was going six to

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Speaker 1: What's strange? Not strange, but like, obviously he's pretty important,

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Speaker 1: we think to the Celtics chances of winning a title.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've been saying it all season long. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it hinges on whether KP plays and he's

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Speaker 1: But they're so good without him, Like they were like

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Speaker 1: twenty one and four in the regular season. Without Porzingis,

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Speaker 1: they're twelve and two overall. I mean some of those

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Speaker 1: games did have him early on, but like really really good,

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Speaker 1: Matters team here in game one, whatever, the first couple

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Speaker 1: of games, and they lose or what happens, Everyone's like, oh, geez,

435
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 1: he ruined the flow. Oh my god, we should have

436
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: stuck with al you know, and that will happened. That's

437
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: going to be a story that spins out of it

438
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: if they lose here or they struggle or whatever. So, yeah,

439
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: he will, I think he'll start. It just means we

440
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 1: didn't draft Luke Cornette when we're doing the top fifteen players,

441
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 1: we definitely didn't draft Xavier Tilman. Like with him there

442
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: and without like all the minutes are played at the

443
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: center position, you know, barring another setback or another injury

444
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: to either of those guys, they have their center for

445
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: forty eight minutes one of those two guys for them.

446
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Speaker 3: Big al big minutes. For sure, it's not going to

447
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: Cornett's likely not going to Xavier Tillman. And one thing

448
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,239
Speaker 3: Al Horford did say was that after just playing what

449
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 3: was it, fourteen games math, yeah, twelve and two through

450
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Speaker 3: the first fourteen games. He made the comparison to two

451
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 3: years ago when they went to the finals and they

452
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: had to go through two seven game series in the

453
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Speaker 3: second round in the conference finals to get to the finals,

454
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Speaker 3: and he basically said, you know, we were kind of

455
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: guessed the old man was for sure, al Horford was

456
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 3: getting older. He was gassed. So he made that a

457
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Speaker 3: big part of his interview to say that this is

458
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Speaker 3: going to feel better for him specific so he's going

459
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Speaker 3: to play a lot. I will say one thing about

460
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: Christoph's porzingis because we got to read into stuff here

461
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: because that's what we do here with all this time off.

462
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 3: He did say he was going to play in the

463
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Speaker 3: finals and then play to try and get Latvia to

464
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Speaker 3: qualify for the Olympics. So I guess that means he's

465
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Speaker 3: in good shit right right, or maybe he's just talking

466
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Speaker 3: to his countryman because the tournament that he's in before

467
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: the Olympics is in Latvia. So I'm trying to sell

468
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 3: tickets here, but I don't know. It's shout out to Riga, Yeah, Riga.

469
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: Lafia will be hosting a term between Georgia, Philippines, Latvia, Brazil,

470
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Speaker 3: Cameroon and Montenegro. So when do.

471
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Speaker 1: Those pre qualifying tournaments for the Olympics start late late June.

472
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Speaker 3: July second in Latvia?

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Speaker 1: Wow, before the Olympics. Basically Olympics start late July.

474
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Speaker 3: It's really yeah, well, all right about this.

475
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Speaker 5: Porzingis comes back, tweaks his calf in the first six minutes. Sure,

476
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Speaker 5: can the Celtics still win the finals?

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Speaker 3: That's a great, great question.

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Speaker 1: I have to say no because I've been running with

479
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: that narrative all season long, so I just like have

480
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Speaker 1: to dig my heels in. But like, obviously they've proven

481
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: that they're a really good team without him. I just

482
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: went over the numbers, like and al Horford is more

483
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: than capable, but you know he can't play forty eight minutes.

484
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Speaker 1: And Porzingis's size, like you brought it up. The defensive

485
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Speaker 1: part of this is like taking away those lobs and obviously,

486
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Speaker 1: like you know, if they're doing drop coverage and all

487
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: that still making it getting in the head of like

488
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Speaker 1: Luca and Kyrie when they're going in there. He's important

489
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Speaker 1: defensively Kpe and he's a really good post defender, one

490
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Speaker 1: of the best in the league. So I guess I

491
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Speaker 1: will say no because KP is a huge advantage. I

492
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Speaker 1: think the three point shooting to pull out to maybe

493
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Speaker 1: play Gafford off the court a little bit too, who

494
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Speaker 1: knows what lively the second I think he can get

495
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: out there because he's so young, legs and stuff like

496
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Speaker 1: that a little bit better. But like we talked about Cleveland,

497
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Speaker 1: maybe there will be a role if KP's stretching the floor.

498
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Speaker 1: But I don't like their chances without him. If he's

499
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Speaker 1: down in the first five minutes of Game one, No,

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Speaker 1: not really.

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Speaker 3: I still think they can win. I know it's uh

502
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: slimmer chances, that's for sure. But Jason Tatum also wants

503
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Speaker 3: to avenge how bad he was in the twenty twenty

504
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: two finals. He just wasn't good, and then he lost

505
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Speaker 3: last year in game seven the conference finals. He's got

506
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Speaker 3: to have a way better final.

507
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Speaker 1: He hurt himself in that game.

508
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the conference finals. Yeah, but he was bad

509
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: shooting wise against the Golden State Wars in twenty twenty two.

510
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 3: He wasn't good, So he has to avenge that. Jalen

511
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 3: Brown looks damn good. You mean they have to avenge that.

512
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Speaker 3: So if you put those top two guys as a

513
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: wash with Luca and Kyrie. Let's just say the Celtics

514
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Speaker 3: have a better three, four five. They just do Drew

515
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Speaker 3: Holliday and Derek White, and now it's gonna be out here.

516
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Speaker 1: You're saying Porzingis or not they still have it?

517
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yes, this is I think they can. Obviously

518
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Speaker 3: they can't.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, I think as long as nobody else went down,

521
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Speaker 5: they could probably do it without Porzingis, because I mean,

522
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Speaker 5: come to the finals, you're only playing six maybe seven guys. Realistically,

523
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Speaker 5: it would suck to lose Porzingis. But as long as

524
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Speaker 5: Horford is still out there, Pritchard is still able to play,

525
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Speaker 5: I think the Celtics would probably still have enough.

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Speaker 1: All right, Game one tomorrow night, We're nearly there, guys.

527
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: We're so so close to actual basketball again in the NBA.

528
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Speaker 1: But let's get into the updown report. Thumbs up, thumbs down,

529
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Speaker 1: play along live on YouTube podcast listeners, Tweet in your

530
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Speaker 1: thumbs at no dunk sync for all of these. First one.

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Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Lakers are zeroing in on JJ Reddick

532
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Speaker 1: as the front runner to be the franchise's next head coach. Now,

533
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: no final decision has been made yet the Lakers still

534
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: have steps remaining in their head coaching search process, and

535
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Speaker 1: we're hearing that this likely won't calm this news until

536
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Speaker 1: after the finals. JJ Reddick calling the Finals on ABC,

537
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Speaker 1: but indications are strong that Reddick is their leading choice.

538
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Speaker 1: Zeroing in yes, thumbs up or thumbs down on that terminology.

539
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Speaker 1: The Lakers zeroing in on JJ Reddick as their next

540
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Speaker 1: head coach? What do you think?

541
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Speaker 5: I think he's going to be their next head coach.

542
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 5: I think you can zero on this one because I

543
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 5: think it's very funny to see the way this is

544
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 5: being pitched, Like, Okay, they're getting close with JJ, but

545
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis, he's really really bonding with James Barrego. Does

546
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 5: he have a podcast with James Barrego? I don't think so.

547
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think that JJ is gonna be the

548
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 5: guy most importantly because he has buy in from Lebron James.

549
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 5: They're doing a show together. You gotta have relationships with

550
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 5: your stars. If JJ's got a relationship with Lebron, he

551
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 5: will therefore have a relationship with Anthony Davis as well.

552
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Speaker 5: Equally important, as the roster and the Lakers don't have

553
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 5: a good one, they have Lebron, they have Ad, they'll

554
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 5: probably bring back Austin Reeves. Everything else is gonna be

555
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 5: a question mark for this team. So it's gonna be

556
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 5: tough for JJ, especially because the best shooter on their

557
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 5: team is going to be their coach. They were twenty

558
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 5: fourth in makes per game last year, twenty eighth in attempts. JJ,

559
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 5: of course is twentieth all time and makes eighteenth and percentage.

560
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Speaker 1: And they need shooting. The Lakers literally need.

561
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Speaker 5: Shooting, and JJ Redick is gonna be sitting there on

562
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Speaker 5: the sidelines like, oh, come on, if we could run

563
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 5: this play for me, come on, I would have hit that.

564
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 5: I would love a dribble handoff from Lebron. Indeed hit

565
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 5: one of these. So yeah, very ironic, But yeah, I

566
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 5: do think JJ is going to be the guy, and

567
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 5: we'll see how it goes. You know, a broadcaster becoming

568
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 5: a coach. It has worked, worked for Steve Kerr, worked

569
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 5: for Doc Rivers, didn't work for Derek Fisher, didn't work

570
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 5: for Jason Kidd. Retiring and immediately becoming a coach. It's

571
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 5: a mixed bag, to say the least.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely up on this. It seems like this

573
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: is going to be the one. And I do think Lebron,

574
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Speaker 3: because of his career, has earned to pick the coach essentially,

575
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Speaker 3: and I do think that he is a huge part

576
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Speaker 3: of why this is happening. I know the Lakers are

577
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: coming out and saying it's not just Lebron, but this

578
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: guy has been in the league for to twenty one

579
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Speaker 3: seasons and he has been good, and so him to

580
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Speaker 3: pick the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers just for

581
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Speaker 3: the next couple of years. But because with the way

582
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Speaker 3: with the way that coaches are changing over so fast,

583
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Speaker 3: it doesn't mean JJ Rig's going to be there for

584
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: a long time if things don't bode well. It is

585
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: ridiculous to look at every single franchise and see how

586
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 3: quickly they turn over coaches. Now, but Reddick is liked

587
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: by Lebron. They talk strategy on their podcast, and that

588
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: is going to happen on this basketball team. That strategy

589
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: is going to happen again. And it can happen without.

590
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: The mics and without the cameras on you and the

591
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: wine flowing. Maybe the wine will still be flying. I

592
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: don't know.

593
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. Well, the wine still

594
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: be flying. Will there be a sponsorship for JJ Redick's

595
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: wine or Lebron's wine. Who knows U it helps to

596
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: get Lebron's approval. The fact that they've got Mike Shryzewski

597
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: in the front office, this this Duke connection to help

598
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: him in some way be a sort of a consultant

599
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: with JJ Redick. I guess that helps in the fact

600
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Speaker 3: this he's gonna be a coach for the next couple

601
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Speaker 3: of seasons.

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Speaker 1: It sure feels like next couple of seasons. Ask you

603
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Speaker 1: what would you put on the over under for years

604
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: of JJ Reddick coaching the Lakers, Like, what would you

605
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: set the line at two and a half?

606
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 5: How much long are you think Lebron's gonna play.

607
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: It's a big part of it, for sure, because it's

608
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: this is being spun. You hear like the Lakers are

609
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: seeking a coach who has the potential and staying power

610
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: to be their headman for the long term. And I

611
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: think that's like they're doing that. You know, we're getting

612
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: those reports because what you just said, it's like, yeah, no,

613
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: you're Lebron's picking this guy, and that means Lebron's gonna

614
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: stick around for a couple of years. So they're trying

615
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: to say, no, no, no, we're looking for a long

616
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: term coach. We're looking for a pat riley like coaching prospect. Yeah,

617
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: that's what's being thrown our way. And then in addition

618
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: to all your cliches of like someone that has, you know,

619
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Speaker 1: the respect of the locker room and can hold guys

620
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: accountable and all that coach speak and can structure this organization,

621
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: like yeah, duh, that's what you want in a head coach.

622
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: But I do find it funny that they're trying really

623
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: hard to be like, naw, this is not because he

624
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: does a podcast with Lebron and that Lebron wants. This

625
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: is because we think this and he might be. You

626
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: went through it there a little bit there, Trey got

627
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: the coach or sorry, former players who basically went right

628
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: into coaching with no experience, like no assistant coaching experience.

629
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Speaker 1: I guess JJ Red coaches his son at the youth level.

630
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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd Derek Fisher immediately became head coaches following their

631
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: playing days. Kid went forty four and thirty eight with

632
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Speaker 1: the Nets in year one before he jumped to Milwaukee,

633
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: and Derrek Fisher went seventeen and sixty five with the Knicks,

634
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: and then he would last like fifty five more games

635
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: in the next season before he was canned. Steve Nash,

636
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: he took nearly a decade off, but he did become

637
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: head coach at Brooklyn Nets without any full time assistant

638
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: coaching experience. I know, he was like a consultant there

639
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: for a little bit. He went forty eight and twenty

640
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: four in his first season with Brooklyn, and then he

641
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: lasted one more full season and then he was gone

642
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: like what five or six or seven games in the

643
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: next season, and then the gold standard is Steve Kerr.

644
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: But he was a general manager of the Suns and

645
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: that was big gap too, And he took over for

646
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: the Warriors, and well that was a huge success. They

647
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Speaker 1: went sixty seven and fifteen in year one, won the title,

648
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: and then just kept going back to either Western Conference final. Well,

649
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: they went back to the finals every year for the

650
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Speaker 1: next four in a row and won two more titles

651
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: within that gap. So you know, mixed bag here. Who knows?

652
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Speaker 1: I mean, I like I said it the other day,

653
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't think we know anything with these coaches, Like,

654
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: of course he could be a good coach, he knows basketball,

655
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: but well, the rest of the locker room, like will

656
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: there'll be rolling of eyes if they feel like, oh,

657
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: it's like whatever Lebron wants to do, or maybe they're like, yeah,

658
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: we should do whatever Lebron wants to do because what

659
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: you were saying, I mean seriously, like a part of that,

660
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: they're almost like it's like he's like an assistant really

661
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: to Reddick as the head coach.

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00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: We'll see, Yeah, it'll be important to see who actually

663
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 5: JJ hires as his assistants, Like Phil Handy is probably

664
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Speaker 5: a guy I've seen Rondo kicked around as a name

665
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 5: who could be a coach with the Lakers, because he

666
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 5: was also a guest on JJ Reddick's podcast at one point.

667
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 5: I love that you could just go through the list

668
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 5: of people who have appeared on his show and see

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Speaker 5: if they're going to CoA which I also don't know

670
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: what his coaching tree is considered, right Like Steve Kurr, Yeah,

671
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 5: he's been awesome. He played for Phil Jackson and he

672
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: played for Greg Popovich. Those are great guys to learn

673
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: from if you're going to become a head coach in

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00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 5: the NBA. The most notable coaches JJ has played for

675
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 5: coach k of course, never coached in the NBA, but

676
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 5: eventually became good at recruiting these guys out of high school,

677
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Speaker 5: you know, once he had to get into the one

678
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Speaker 5: and done era, and then Doc Rivers and stan Van

679
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: Gundy are the coaches he played under the most. So

680
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, never won at all obviously, Yeah, stan Van

682
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Speaker 3: want to be an assistant or will he want to

683
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Speaker 3: continue the broadcasting as he's doing. I have no idea. Who, yeah,

684
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Speaker 3: what the coaching tree looks like. It's totally true. If

685
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: he's a good coach, he sticks around for years and

686
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: years and years. I suppose. If not, goes back to

687
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: running a media empire, I guess. And I wonder if

688
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: he keeps the media the podcast going while he's coaching.

689
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: Is that allowed to continue to have a podcast with

690
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Speaker 3: Lebron James while you're head coach of his team.

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Speaker 1: Allowed? Yeah, but I don't think it'll happen.

692
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Speaker 5: It's probably gonna be busier, busier I would. I would

693
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Speaker 5: pause the podcast personally.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, take the podcast in to your

695
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: NBA coaching gig. And what I mean by that is

696
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Speaker 1: h during the break between the first and second quarter

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Speaker 1: when you get the little coaching interview, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: throw in a little plug for better help, throw in

699
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: a little plug for some mattress company. That's come on.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see him do that. Also, I want

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Speaker 1: to see him coach in a backwards hat or bring

702
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: back the full suits. JJ. I feel like he's talked

703
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: about that before. I thought he had a thing on

704
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Speaker 1: everyone just wearing these polos and the zip ups. You know,

705
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: maybe let's go back to the days where coaches are

706
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Speaker 1: in a nice suit. I'd like to see to do

707
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Speaker 1: one of the other. Backwards hat be funny, or a

708
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: full suit or both. Maybe he'll do both.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know, a backwards hat with the suit,

710
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 5: No way, no way. He should bring back suits, but

711
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 5: they also do VR. He ad reads quite a bit

712
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 5: on Old Man in the three, And I don't know

713
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: if I've heard an Indo Chino.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah wearing a suit during his broadcasts.

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00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 3: No ties though, so I guess he will go Tilis

716
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Speaker 3: if he brings it back. But you guys think when

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Speaker 3: Lebron retires, JJ redicks run as coach of the Lakers ends.

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00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean, I just this is La. We're

719
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: talking about. You don't last long. You don't have a

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Speaker 1: long leash. That's why I'm like two and a half

721
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Speaker 1: years feels like that's where I would set the line.

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Speaker 1: And I'm almost like removing Lebron from the equation. I'm

723
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Speaker 1: taking the under is what I would do, because this

724
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Speaker 1: is the NBA, and like, like you get like one year,

725
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: you go one and a half years still like prove

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Speaker 1: that you're like a really good coach or like have

727
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Speaker 1: the support of obviously the front office or your locker

728
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Speaker 1: room and stuff like that. Like it's just so fickle,

729
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: and yeah, who's to say he's like, God, man, I

730
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: miss podcasting, Holy crap, man, I miss sitting talking with

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Speaker 1: Mike Breen and Doris Burke every couple of days and

732
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Speaker 1: getting paid handsomely for that.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, so, yeah, does he at the same

734
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: job back as far as ESPN goes, that's interesting?

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00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 5: Or Lebron retires buys the Vegas team, JJ, come and

736
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Speaker 5: coach you did.

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Speaker 1: You did call that before all of this, and like

738
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Speaker 1: they're like they got ahead of you. They're like, why

739
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: wait to Vegas? Trake Kirby, Yeah, come coach the Lakers.

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00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: Man let's get it.

741
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 5: Going early, guy out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Darvin.

742
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: All right? Anything else on that. I think that.

743
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 5: Part of the reporting on this as well is that

744
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 5: a decision isn't going to be made until after the finals.

745
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 5: JJ is going to call the finals, So there's going

746
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 5: to be an opening for the number one spot on

747
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 5: ESPN's color commentator alongside Doris Burke next season. They should

748
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: bring back Jeff bang Gandhi for that.

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Speaker 1: M Jeffrey, sure, sure, were you? I like the idea

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00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: of I'd like to see Richard Jefferson. I think we've

751
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: talked about, like maybe injecting a little more humor, uh

752
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: into the Breen and Doris sort of pairing, and you know,

753
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: I feel like he could play that role.

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Speaker 5: But Jeff, that's why I say.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 5: I don't have to bring back No, No, I mean not Mark.

757
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: Jackson, Yeah, just Jeff Jamerson might Jess. Okay, let's move

758
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: on here. If the NBA has announced the start times

759
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: and schedule of the two day twenty twenty four NBA Draft,

760
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: ABC and ESPN will broadcast the first round on Wednesday,

761
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: June twenty sixth, at eight pm Eastern, and then the

762
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: second round will air on Thursday, June twenty seventh, beginning

763
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Speaker 1: at four pm Eastern on ESPN, and the app up

764
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 1: or down on these announced start times for the two

765
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: day NBA Draft coverages, which we knew about, but you

766
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: know now we're going Wednesday Thursday with an earlier start

767
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: time there on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: There's a date change, that's for sure. We thought it

769
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: was going to be Thursday Friday. We thought both would

770
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Speaker 3: be at eight pm. But I'm still up on it.

771
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: What they're doing is trying to increase the importance of

772
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Speaker 3: the draft. They're trying to copy the NFL to some degree. Now.

773
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: They did move it a couple or one day earlier

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Speaker 3: because of what's going on the presidential debate on Thursday night,

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00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: and I don't think they want that to rival first

776
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: round of the NBA Draft. But I'm good on it

777
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: because what they said was the front offices now have

778
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: a longer time, longer span to make some deals basically,

779
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 3: and so I think that will happen because we don't

780
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: see a ton of second round deals, and I think

781
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: this will increase it a little bit more. So I

782
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: don't see why i'd be down on it. Really.

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00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Previously at least teams had five minutes to make

784
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: picks on the first round and then only two minutes

785
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: to make their selection in the second round. Making it

786
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: may be difficult to facilitate trades, but they are now

787
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: going to have a longer window. I think it's going

788
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: to be four minutes. They're going to have there on

789
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: the Thursday afternoon in.

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00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: The second round, and a full day in between, and.

791
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Of course the full yes, that's right, that's right. Well,

792
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: not a full.

793
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: Day, okay, they wanted a full day and that's the

794
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 3: only thing from twenty four hours to twenty hours whatever.

795
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: Up or down on this, I'm down, okay on the

796
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: whole two day draft coverage.

797
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 5: Yes, they should have waited a year to do this.

798
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: If they're worried about the presidential debate, there won't be

799
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: one next draft season. They're basically telling you don't watch

800
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 5: the second round of the draft. There's no point they're

801
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 5: putting on at four pm during the week, that's one

802
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: pm Eastern or West Coast time. Nobody's gonna watch this.

803
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: They're telling you the second round it doesn't matter. And honestly,

804
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 5: have you ever watched the second round of a draft?

805
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: It is so boring.

806
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: Oh god, so they're.

807
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: Burying it kind of.

808
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: I think I will say I only push back on this.

809
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: If Brownie James Junior is still on the board come

810
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: Thursday at four pm, he hasn't gone in the first round,

811
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: might be some intrigue for people to be like, oh,

812
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: who's gonna take Brownie Jr. That would be the only

813
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: reason maybe.

814
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: But the people will be at work, that's.

815
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Speaker 1: A good point. Yeah, yeah, it will be one pm

816
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: Pacific time.

817
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 3: Some basketball geeks will watch, but yeah, it won't do

818
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: good ratings, that's for sure. It to me, it's more

819
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: about trades. There may be some more trades because of

820
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: more time. So that's all I care about it. I

821
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: don't think you're watching. Note I mean, unlike these are

822
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: basketball geeks, we're ald basketball geeks. Every diehard wants an

823
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: additional trade on their team for their team to talk about.

824
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 5: Okay, let's a television show. This isn't for diehards. This

825
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 5: is supposed to be a ratings thing. That's what we're saying.

826
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 5: That they're going to two days to make it a

827
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Speaker 5: bigger event, and they're making the second part of it

828
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 5: a non event completely, So only the die hards will

829
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 5: watch to see if Jordan Bell gets traded for cash

830
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: consideration or exciting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, possibly, or you could have some sort of first

832
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: round pick or something deeper, like somebody good just happened.

833
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 3: Because there's more conversations happening. There could be better trades

834
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: that happened, is all I'm saying. But yeah, the watching,

835
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: yeah Taco Bell commercials in the second round, it ain't

836
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: gonna be all that exciting for people.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I believe too. The first round is at

838
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: the Barclay Center in Brooklyn, Okay, that's where it has

839
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: been held before at least, and then the second round

840
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: is being held at the ESPN Seaport District Studios in

841
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: New York. So it's not you know, it's not gonna

842
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: be in the big arena. It's not gonna be in

843
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: the big stadium the second round, which makes sense because

844
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: we're saying, I mean, I can't. You would have to

845
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: be the ultimate sicko to go to the second day

846
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: coverage in person. I'm saying it's one thing to watch

847
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: it on TV you have it on in the background,

848
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: but to go and sit there WHOA. So yeah, I don't.

849
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: I don't even know if there'll be tickets of I

850
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: don't even know if you can go watch the second round?

851
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: Is what I'm getting at in person?

852
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: Right?

853
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 5: Probably not interesting, I wonder. I guess we'll miss out

854
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 5: on those like random moments when some dude who thought

855
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 5: maybe I'll go at the end of the first round

856
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 5: gets drafted number forty and comes down from the crowd

857
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 5: to meet money Mark Tatum. Gonna miss that big time man.

858
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I guess you know, for a positive way,

859
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: in the NBA, you won't get guys who thought they

860
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 3: were gonna get drafted, even in the second round. And

861
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: sometimes cameras will see those guys that are there they

862
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: thought they were gonna get drafted in the first round,

863
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: and sometimes they will pand to those guys and they're

864
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: just sad because now they could be drafted in the

865
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 3: second round. Like there won't be any sad moments. Why not?

866
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: What do you mean at least it was one night

867
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: where you found out. Now, if I think I'm a

868
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: first round pick, maybe I'm going at the end of

869
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: the first round, they show me I'm there. I'm not

870
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: getting picked. I'm not getting picked. Now, I got to

871
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: come back to the ESPN Seaport District studios on on Thursday.

872
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: No, I don't think they may not even have players there. Oh,

873
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: it'll just be less of a thing. Nobody's watching the

874
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: second round, there'll be less of a negative thing. For

875
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: where is this ESPN Seaports Studio?

876
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: I think it might just be there. I don't know.

877
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: I think it's in New York studios, like.

878
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: New York Studio where they do get up shows.

879
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But where will it be.

880
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: On the Hudson Oh? I guess. I mean, I want

881
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 3: to know what the broadcast is going to look like.

882
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: You'll be the only one tuning in.

883
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess it is. I guess it is

884
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: the get up exactly where they do get up that

885
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: kind of thing, probably first take. But I just want

886
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 3: you want to know about trades. People want to know

887
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: about trades, not that I'm tuning.

888
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: You don't give a shit about the forty second pick

889
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: has been traded to down for the fifty first pick

890
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: in future.

891
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's not good about that. That's not a

892
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: good trade. I want a name of a part layer

893
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: that'll be more interesting. But it could just we could

894
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: just see actual trade that matters.

895
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, maybe maybe, maybe, or maybe not.

896
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: That's what we want to talk about, all right, Next

897
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: one here, the Dallas Mavericks have signed general manager Nico

898
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: Harrison to a multi year contract extension. Harrison, who was

899
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: a longtime Nike executive before joining the mas, has completely

900
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: overhauled this roster for this Dallas franchise that was struggling

901
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: to get out of the first round for basically a decade,

902
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: and now here they are in the finals. This is

903
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a softball one to you, guys, I assume,

904
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: but thumbs upper, thumbs down tass on the Mavericks signing

905
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: Nico Harrison to a multi year contract extension.

906
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: Sure this is positive for the Mavericks because they gave

907
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: Jason Kidd an extension before Round two when they won

908
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: that series, So maybe this bodes well. Maybe they'll win

909
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: the NBA Finals because of it. But also the team

910
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: that they played in the conference finals. Tim Connolly, president

911
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: of basketball operations in Minnesota, is also sticking around for

912
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: another season. He has come up with a deal. I

913
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: don't know who he's going to go siating with because

914
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: the ownership is battling over who's the owner, so who

915
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: does that contract happen with I guess the guys who signed.

916
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 3: I think it's Lori and Rodriguez most likely. But anyways,

917
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: in both time, the mascots crunch.

918
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 5: The mascot Stewart right now the only one that you

919
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 5: can trust. I'm not taking signs of just a fan

920
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 5: of the team.

921
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: Connolly comes back, he can still opt out next season,

922
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 3: which is strange, but anyways, I just say that Connolly

923
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: Nico Harrison running both those teams, they both are in

924
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: a similar scenario where they think they're gonna keep the

925
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: exact same team next season. Really, in Minnesota is still

926
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: gonna run with everybody they have. I think they're not

927
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: trading Karl Anthony Towns, and same goes with the Maps.

928
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: They basically are locked in, like Derek Jones junior. Yes

929
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 3: he's a minimum contract, they got to figure that out,

930
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: but they basically have the same team coming back for

931
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: next season. So I think that bodes well. If you're

932
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: a MAS fan, don't watch round two of the play

933
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 3: of the draft. You're not going to care about that,

934
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: but you care about this. Your roster is going to

935
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: be basically the same other than a Morris brother leaving, So.

936
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thumbs up. But the maps they get Jalen

937
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 5: Brunson in a second round once upon a time.

938
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 1: Damn, we gotta be watching.

939
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 5: But guess what, Nico Harrison lost them. That's true, let

940
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 5: him walk away, that's true, but I end up working out. Yeah,

941
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: Nico Harrison's nailed everything except for letting Jalen Brunson go,

942
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 5: except for signing Grant Williams, who they got out of

943
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 5: the Grant Williams business. And guess what that worked out

944
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 5: as well, And that, to me is the main thing.

945
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: He has really done a good job of the ownership advantage.

946
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 5: Like the Mavericks, are clearly bought in on doing everything

947
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: they can to maximize Luka Doncica's championship window, and that

948
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 5: means paying up with first round picks even if they

949
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 5: make a mistake. They had to figure out a way

950
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 5: to recover from the Jalen Brunson leaving in free agency.

951
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 5: They traded for Kyrie Irving when his value is very,

952
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 5: very low because of his off court nonsense. They realized

953
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 5: Grant Williams wasn't working, so we're gonna pay up to

954
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 5: get PJ. Washington and Daniel Gafford. Who cares if we

955
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: don't have picks in the first or second round coming

956
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 5: up here. We're trying to win the championship right now

957
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: before Victor Wembinyama really comes on. So I think great

958
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 5: stuff for the Mavericks to be able to lock down

959
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 5: Nico Harrison. And more importantly, it shows you that even

960
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 5: though they just had their ownership change hands during the season,

961
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 5: this team and this whole franchise is completely all in

962
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: right now, and that's all you can ask for if

963
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: you've got one of the greatest players on your team.

964
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great point and the marriage gm Nico Harrison.

965
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: He has brought in ten new faces since losing to

966
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: the Warriors in the twenty twenty two Conference Finals. He

967
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: did it by trades Kyrie Irving, PJ. Washington, Daniel Gafford.

968
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: He did it in the draft, Derek Cleveley. The second

969
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: was a huge one obviously there they did a nice

970
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: tank job to get him o Max Prosper Jaden Hardy,

971
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: and then free agents Derek Jones, Junior, Dante exem Aj

972
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: Lawson now Markkeith Morris. He came over in the Kyrie trade,

973
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: but then they resigned him that in September. So however

974
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: you want to consider him either a free agent or

975
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: coming in through a trade. But ten new faces basically

976
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: around Luca, like you said, as the guy that's pretty impressive,

977
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: so well deserving here of the contract extension, and we'll

978
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: see if they can close it out here in the finals.

979
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: Next one, this one's fun. According to YEAHO Sports Jake Fisher,

980
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: nick center Isaiah Hartenstein is going to get paid this summer.

981
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: League executives are projecting Hartenstein will be able to draw

982
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: at least eighty million and perhaps upward of one hundred

983
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: million from a team hoping to steal him from the Knicks.

984
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: Up or down on Isaiah Hartenstein as the best big

985
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: man available in free agency TK, and then you can

986
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: debate whether or not he will get that type of payday.

987
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: What do you think Thum's upper thumbs down.

988
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 5: I think he's definitely the best big man that is

989
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 5: a free agent because it's basically him and Nick Klaxton.

990
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: I'll take Hartenstein, but if you live in Brooklyn, maybe

991
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 5: are going with Nick Claxton. You like the switch ability there,

992
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 5: But I think Hartenstein proved he could be the anchor

993
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 5: of a defense when Mitchell Robinson went out and then

994
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 5: Hartenstein stepped up, the Knicks remained a good defense. Robinson

995
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 5: comes back, We're still rolling with Hartenstein as our starter.

996
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 5: He can hit the offensive glass, he can hit the

997
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 5: defensive glass. Passes the ball a little, catches Lobbs, shoots

998
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 5: an ugly floater, but it goes in a lot. So

999
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 5: I think he's definitely the best free agent out there.

1000
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 5: Like Jared Allen. Maybe you consider him available since he's

1001
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 5: gonna be a trade target for some teams. But outside

1002
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 5: of clax Thin and Hartenstein, it's like Jonas Valanciunas, Andre

1003
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 5: Drummond and my favorite bargain Ben Center this summer, go

1004
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 5: go batase, big board batase. But I think this is

1005
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 5: a pretty easy. Yes, Hartenstein is the best big man

1006
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 5: who is readily available. You just have to beat the Knicks,

1007
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 5: who can offer four years, seventy two point five million dollars.

1008
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 5: Will Hartenstein take another discount to stay with the Knicks,

1009
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 5: the team that really really made him. I don't know,

1010
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 5: We'll see.

1011
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely was made by this team because this

1012
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 3: was the first season that he started most of his game,

1013
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: and that was because Mitch Robinson was hurt and he

1014
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: looked great. And then in the playoffs, he really earned

1015
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: his paycheck because he was awesome offensively. He was great

1016
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: from in close, but then the push shots came and

1017
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: he shot sixty percent from three to ten feet and

1018
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: even further ten to sixteen feet he shot fifty three percent.

1019
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: So that off is important not just for him but

1020
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: for his teammates in creating space at the rim because

1021
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: you got to cover this guy beyond the free throw line.

1022
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: And so offensively, yes, Nick Claxton is a better defensive player,

1023
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: but Claxton is just an interior type of guy. Like

1024
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: he shot forty three percent from three to ten feet

1025
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: this year, so that's way better from Hartenstein. And although

1026
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 3: Claxton is good defensively, I think you can buy in

1027
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: to the Hartenstein story here because he has become you know,

1028
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 3: there are very similar ages between him and in Nick Claxton,

1029
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: and he's just become a great player. Like I don't

1030
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: think he's going to get one hundred, no, but he should.

1031
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: He should. He will probably earn a little bit more

1032
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: from somebody outside of New York, Like somebody will offer

1033
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: him something like twenty per That seems to be the

1034
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Yaker Pearl gets that he Vucevich can get

1035
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 3: that now, Yeah, that's a good like people.

1036
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: Some people are probably rolling their eyes right now, like

1037
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: what Isaiah Hartenstein's going to get twenty to twenty five

1038
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: million per year? But when you go through some of

1039
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: the other centers and what they make, it's not that

1040
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: far fetched. I mean like Brook Lopez twenty four million,

1041
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: Capella twenty three million, Miles Turner twenty and a half million,

1042
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: Vucevich twenty million perdl nearly twenty million, Nurkic seventeen and

1043
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: a half, Zach Collins makes seventeen and a half. It's like,

1044
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: I think Harnstein's a better player than some of those

1045
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: guys I just listed. So is going to be especially

1046
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: with the cap going up? Yeah, probably ballpark what we're

1047
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: saying twenty to twenty five million. It's just like this

1048
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: idea of like, will he want to leave the Knicks

1049
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: who can only max out at a certain number? If that,

1050
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: like we said, what'd you say, four years seventy two

1051
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: and a half million the Knicks can offer him because

1052
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: of his bird rights, like you know, eighty million from

1053
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: another team. Maybe he's like, nah, no, I like playing

1054
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: with these guys. I like what we got billing here.

1055
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: But if a team comes in way over the top

1056
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: in the one hundred million dollar range, it's like, that's

1057
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: we're talking a huge amount of money for a guy

1058
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: that hasn't made a ton in his career. Very difficult

1059
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: to turn down for anybody. And maybe he leaves. I

1060
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: don't know who that team is. You know, he's always

1061
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: being linked to, like, could the Thunder want a guy

1062
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: like him? Sure? I know he was. I think in

1063
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: the article Jake Fisher wrote that he nearly signed with

1064
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: the Magic. They have a million sort of big guys,

1065
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: So maybe that's unlikely. Detroit's been linked to him other

1066
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: teams that see him as maybe a piece moving forward.

1067
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: But we'll see.

1068
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 5: I'd rather make seventy two and a half million from

1069
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 5: the Knicks than one hundred million from the Pistons.

1070
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's probably fair money, Williams says, no, but

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00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: everyone else maybe yeah.

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00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the Knicks offered him more than the Clippers did. Yeah, right,

1073
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: And so that's how they snagged him. And so I'm

1074
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: sure he's happy that he was able to go into

1075
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: the postseason. This was the postse was a big part

1076
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: of why he's going to get paid more, And the

1077
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 3: fact is like, we just went through the competition. As

1078
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: far as centers goes in free agency, it's really ionisval

1079
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: Nick Claxton. Jared Allen is a tradeable guy.

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00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: I suppose he's two years, forty million dollars he signed.

1081
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so who knows what the what the Cavs do

1082
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: and then you're getting into the gogas I guess yeah.

1083
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: All right, next one, final one. In the updown report,

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00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: She'd Wallace believes his two thousand and three for Detroit

1085
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: Pistons would have beaten the twenty sixteen seventeen Golden State Warriors.

1086
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: Draymond Green. Guys, you're not gonna believe this. He disagrees,

1087
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: he tweeted earlier this week. She'd we would have smacked y'all.

1088
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: Y'all was scored seventy two points per game. Let's not

1089
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: winning a half and we put you and then big

1090
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: ass forces in every pick and roll. That's pretty funny.

1091
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: Let's see you move them feet. That one ring was

1092
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: great though, big bro. We all appreciated it. So up

1093
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: or down on Draymond Green saying his seventeen Warriors would

1094
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: have smacked sheets oh four championship Pistons.

1095
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 5: Thumb sorry, I have to agree with Raymond here, but look,

1096
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 5: I also thought that the four Lakers were gonna beat

1097
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 5: the four Pistons. It didn't happen right way right, But

1098
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 5: in the two thousand and four season, Detroit made three

1099
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty three three pointers for the entire year.

1100
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 5: In the twenty seventeen season, Steph Curry three hundred and

1101
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 5: twenty four to three pointers. They also had Kevin Durant.

1102
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 5: They also had Klay Thompson. Like, I literally don't think

1104
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 5: that the Pistons would be able to score enough to

1105
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 5: keep up with the Warriors, And I don't think their

1106
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 5: defense is gonna be all that compared to this Warriors

1107
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 5: team that spreads everybody out.

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00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 3: I guess she thought that they also have the tough

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00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: gene a little bit more than the Washington the Golden

1110
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: State Warriors, I guess. But like you just went through,

1111
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: putting two eras in the same conversation is really sort

1112
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: of pointless. The game has changed a big time. So

1113
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: I'm up on what Draymond is saying. I'm down on

1114
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 3: having to do this again. It just it feels it's pointless.

1115
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: It is totally pointless. I do agree with Draymond's tweet.

1116
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: There's nothing incorrect about Draymond's tweet. I agree with She'd saying, man,

1117
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: we were awesome, we won the championship. What are you

1118
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: gonna do? It was just this is a different time.

1119
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: They were the best team in two thousand and four,

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Speaker 3: maybe at the Lakers, yeah, but yeah, seventeen is just

1121
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: so frigging different. And the whole tough gene, well, you

1122
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 3: got Draymond. He's pretty tough. I think they have enough

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00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 3: toughness around them to get it done.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, how did we get to this,

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00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: Like why was She'd suddenly saying they would have beaten

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00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: the Warriors? And I thought it was him starting this conversation,

1127
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: But no, and I should have known this. It was

1128
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: Draymond on Shack's podcast, debating how his Warriors team in

1129
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen would have handled Shaq and Kobe's championship Lakers team.

1130
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: And that led to Draymond sort of hitting the pistons

1131
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: with like a straight shot here, and this is why

1132
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: Rashid Wallace then caught w into that and was like,

1133
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, you know, forget you

1134
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: saying you were gonna beat the Lakers championship team with

1135
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: Kobe and Shaq. That Warriors team you wouldn't have beat us.

1136
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: That's how we got here. And then it was the

1137
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. But yeah, as good

1138
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: as that Pistons team was, as great as they were defensively,

1139
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you still have the two best players and

1140
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: Curry and KD And like I've heard, she'd like try

1141
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: and say, well, you know, how would they stop billups

1142
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: like the size and Rip Hamilton running around screen? It's

1143
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: like okay, But then he was trying to convince me

1144
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: like Tshaun Prince would have lit their ass up. And

1145
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: that's where I was like, come on, man, like he

1146
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: was really he was quite adamant that Tishon Prince was

1147
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: a very underrated scorer. You know he was. I think

1148
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: he was like maybe a leading scorer when he played

1149
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: Kentucky and all that. Like he was good. Maybe he

1150
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: like could have done more. But like when we're comparing

1151
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: him to Kevin Durant at the position, basically it's like no, no, no, no,

1152
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: I gotta stop you there. But smacked, maybe not smacked,

1153
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: but I had the Warriors, the sixteen seventeen Warriors beating

1154
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: the three four oh the three or four pistons.

1155
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 5: Look, I think the seventeen Cabs would beat the four pistons. Okay,

1156
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 5: who gets suspended first in that series? Sheet or Draymond? H?

1157
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: That's good, that's good.

1158
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: Who what are the rules?

1159
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: Are we playing four ball? Are playing sixteen seventeen time?

1160
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why they thought that they could just grab Steph.

1161
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 3: I'm sure she is thinking you could clutch a little

1162
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 3: bit more, you could.

1163
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: For she for she to be right, like, if you

1164
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: want to like get to that point, you got to

1165
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: be playing three oh four style basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1166
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: right where they could really like, yeah, basically just take

1167
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: out steph career, you know, because of their physicality.

1168
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, so who gets suspended when they take out Steph?

1169
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: Because that would be their goal?

1170
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: I think I guess yeah, for that reasoning, I guess

1171
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: Draymond will be my answer, because they're going to get

1172
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: physical with Steph and come on, man, you got to

1173
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: back up your guy, and it's usually the guy that

1174
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: sort of retaliates after the initial action. So I would

1175
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: go with Draymond being tossed first. Yeah, that's probably right.

1176
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 3: When he Chokeddy Rudy Gobert this season. I don't know

1177
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: why someone hasn't photoshopped Rashid Wallace's face onto Rudy Gobert's face.

1178
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a great question.

1179
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: Rights to do it? Put someone? Well, now, all right,

1180
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: fun topics. They're in the updown report. I know you're

1181
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: playing along in the in the stream team, but everybody

1182
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast, everybody watching later, drop your thumbs

1183
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: up or your thumbs down for all of those before

1184
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: we go. Tweeted the night, tweet out the night.

1185
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 3: Wow.

1186
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 5: Oh got a couple of tweets of the night for him.

1187
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 5: And it comes from Hulu on FX is clipped or

1188
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 5: whatever they're calling this show Clipped on FX is Hulu,

1189
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 5: Hulu on Fax. I don't know full branding on it.

1190
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: It's the story of the LA Clippers. And people were

1191
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 5: loving the casting of the Steph Curry character last night,

1192
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 5: who most people were calling Steve Curry and saying that

1193
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 5: it looks exactly like Dak Prescott as GP is cooked,

1194
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 5: Brandon said on Twitter last night.

1195
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Looks a lot more like Dak Prescott than Steph Curry.

1196
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 5: No, you know, absolutely right. They got his jersey right though.

1197
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 5: Also that basketball looks tiny. There's no way that is a.

1198
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, I was like, is that a Lord

1199
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: of the Rings? Like a death perception thing? But I'm

1200
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: with you, like that seems like a smaller basketball you know,

1201
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: maybe this actor is yeah, quite small, and yeah, it

1202
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: would make sense he was.

1203
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 5: A smaller ball, so like you can do cooler gribble tricks.

1204
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 5: And I guess people are also loving the Blake Griffin

1205
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 5: character as Mike carry and tweeting. What people don't know

1206
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: is that Blake Griffin went on to perform at Just

1207
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 5: for Last.

1208
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: That's true, isn't it.

1209
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy's incredible.

1210
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: So you were saying people were your people. It does

1211
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: look like Fred Kats a little bit. You were saying

1212
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: people were calling the Steph Curry looking like Steve were

1213
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: calling him Steve Curry. There was a lot of instead

1214
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: of Blake Griffin, Fake Griffin was going around.

1215
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 5: For this Jake Griffin looks like he's wearing Jake from

1216
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 5: State Farm as well. This looks like what was that

1217
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 5: guy's name in Girls? Ray? Yes, they got Ray to

1218
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 5: play Blake Griffin. Weird, Yeah, but yeah. Episode one, White

1219
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 5: Party Doc Fights chemistry problems created by Donald's favoritism and harassment.

1220
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 5: The fragile love triangle between Donald Shelley and v combusts

1221
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 5: when VEE refuses to stay out of sight. Attendance is

1222
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 5: mandatory at the Labor Day white party. Right now, it's

1223
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 5: got a six point three out of ten on IMDb

1224
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 5: IMDb ratings to mirror the game score Internet content ratings.

1225
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 5: Nobody has respect for these IMDb ratings. I only trust

1226
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 5: Rotten Tomatoes and letterboxed. I did see it as four

1227
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 5: out of five stars for the debut episode, though on Vulture.

1228
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 5: Vulture is doing full recaps. I've clipped.

1229
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: I will admit every tweet I saw about this show

1230
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: that premiered last night got funnier and funnier, like every

1231
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: screen grab you see, and like some clips that people

1232
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: were sharing. I'm intrigued that way. But I saw a

1233
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: lot of people TK saying I lasted five minutes and

1234
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: that was it. I couldn't watch anymore. But I'm excited

1235
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: to fire it up, like I want it to be

1236
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: bad in a weird way. I think it'll be more funny,

1237
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: like obviously, more hilarious to talk about.

1238
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 5: I was at a swim meet late last night, got

1239
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 5: home check the internet. Saw this picture of Ramon Sessions

1240
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 5: playing Steph was like, I gotta see this show. Went

1241
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 5: to turn it on. It was forty nine minutes. I

1242
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 5: couldn't bring myself to do it, but I might do

1243
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 5: it as soon as I get home. Okay, okay, locked in.

1244
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 3: You gotta get clipped in because the final start has

1245
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 3: one episode come out.

1246
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: I think two, maybe two. I think they did the two.

1247
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, forty nine minutes. Thanks for that. Not too long.

1248
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: Not a crazy though, because that would turn me off

1249
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1250
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was hoping for thirty two minutes. Those thirty

1251
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 5: two minutes, I would have watched it.

1252
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: Instead.

1253
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 5: I watched some recipes. But man, JJ Reddick, this guy's

1254
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 5: on the broadcast getting hired to coach and guess what

1255
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 5: he's in clips?

1256
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, there was a JJ.

1257
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 5: Redick character and clipped as well, because he was on

1258
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 5: the Clippers back then.

1259
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1260
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 3: So is that a fictional story about the White Party?

1261
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: No, that's real, that's real.

1262
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: Wow.

1263
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, you remember that.

1264
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't remember.

1265
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: We knew about that. I remember that was talked about

1266
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: back in the days when all this was going on.

1267
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: Even Yeah, Donald strolling weirdo.

1268
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: He asked, weird that's so weirdo.

1269
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 5: My sister texted me about it.

1270
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: You can watch this? What you're gonna watch this? Wow?

1271
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: Clipped locked in? I can't wait. All right, we might

1272
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: have to be talking about clip in the summer. Great

1273
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: tweets there and again. Everyone about this show looks funnier

1274
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: and funnier. I mean the Chris Paul looks funny. We

1275
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: obviously have seen Laurence Fishburn is doc. I guess Ed

1276
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: O'Neill is playing Donald Sterling. I started tweakling around that

1277
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: Ed O'Neil too hot to play Donald Sterling. I was like, wow,

1278
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: I did watch a little Married with Children last night.

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Speaker 1: I fired it up a lot. I was like, wow, young,

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Speaker 1: I don't know hot ed hot ed? All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: call it there. Thanks to everybody for joining us live

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Thanks to all the podcast listeners. Next podcast

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Speaker 1: comes on Friday. Okay, that'll be in your feed obviously,

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Speaker 1: recapping Game one of the NBA Finals. That's a drop

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Speaker 1: podcast on Friday live at ten am on YouTube as well.

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Speaker 1: But tomorrow the plan is on youtub Tube basically like

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Speaker 1: a Game one hype stream and whatever else we want

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Speaker 1: to get up to, just kicking it live at ten

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. We got a bunch of other topics that

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Speaker 1: we didn't get into the updown report. We can get

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Speaker 1: into those, but uh yeah, maybe look at some prop

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Speaker 1: bets for game one. Whatever you got an idea, let

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Speaker 1: us know. No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com tweeted

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Speaker 1: in at No Dunk saying, but we'll be live tomorrow

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Speaker 1: on YouTube and then the Drop podcast on Friday. Until then,

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Speaker 1: Clipper bros.

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Speaker 5: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 5: Love you guys, Austin. Do you think he's in clipped

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Speaker 5: clip after Jonah Hill to play that guy, that'd be

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Speaker 5: the best casting.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, just at the end of every Clipped

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Speaker 1: episode that Jonah Hill saying that would be.

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Speaker 3: You know guy, and he loves that guy loves There's

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Speaker 3: a Voda product placement that's happening on clip because of

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Speaker 3: that guy.

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Speaker 1: Brace the day, people,