1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: can visit Norah Jones channel and be sure to subscribe 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: while you're there. Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: playing along with Joshua Hammie. I'm just playing long. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm just playing in lone with you. 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Hey there, I'm Norah Jones. With me always every day 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: in my heart is Sarah Oda. Ooh what an intro. 8 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 3: I'll take it. 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Okay. Today's episode is amazing. 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: We had the founder and frontman of arguably one of 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 4: the greatest rock bands of the past nearly three decades, 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: Queens of the Stone Age. We have singer, songwriter, guitarist, 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: producer Joshua Hami. 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Yay oh, this episode was so much fun. 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: Of course, He's also known for Caius, Eagles of Death 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: Metal and them Crooked Vultures. His latest project, Alive in 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: the Catacombs, was recorded and filmed in the Paris Catacombs 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four, released in twenty five, reimagining Queens 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: of the Stone Age songs in a very stripped down way, 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: which is such an insanely cool idea. Oh, with skeletons 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 4: all around, you're gonna hear more about that you're gonna 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: hear about his touring, you're gonna hear about songwriting, and 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: as always, paired back performances from across Joshua's catalog, including 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: one truly classic cover. 25 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: The funnest part is that he was up for this 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: in a way that I found really fun. He's like, 27 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't even care if we do any of my songs, 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: Let's just do and he started throwing out. The first 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: song he threw out to do was a cover song, 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: and I love that that spirit, But of course we 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: do do some of my favorite songs of his. Yeah, 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: it was a fun He was like up for anything. 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: He's a perfect yeah, perfect guest because he it was 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: like a playdate, like an actual playdate. 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: We just had a We had a great time. I 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: hope you enjoy state. 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 5: There is some. 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: Spicy language in this episode, so listener discretion is advised. 39 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: It's not that bad, but just so you know it's there. 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 5: You want to try this, let's try. 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: It, okay, right, Yeah, Well. 42 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 6: You won't know what fun though. I can't say that 43 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 6: I do. 44 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 7: I don't understand level lie oh how long becomes too 45 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 7: and I just can't recall. Let's start at all oh, 46 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 7: how to become neill. No, I ain't here to break. 47 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 7: Just see how fun went well though? 48 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 8: Make you any time anywhere? 49 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: Not sleep. 50 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 9: I want to leaky, can't you? 51 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 5: Okay? 52 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 10: Sometimes the same is different, but mostly it's the same. 53 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 10: This mystery is life. 54 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 6: That's just say my thing. 55 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 11: If I told you that I knew about the sun and. 56 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 12: The moon and beyond true, Yeah, the only thing I 57 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 12: know for sure. 58 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 6: What I want to any time anywhere. Let's say they 59 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 6: album make. 60 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: I won't make it with you? 61 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 6: Hed it town, buddy, my supp. 62 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 13: I wanna make it. I wanta make. 63 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 7: A you gotta go, gotta got go. 64 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 13: Make that he it time and where? Oh I wanna 65 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 13: make it. 66 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: I want to make it. 67 00:05:37,480 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 9: You im make it, Alma, makele you. 68 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 6: At a time? 69 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 14: Pty, Well, I must say, babe, I make it out, 70 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 14: make it? 71 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: Let you? 72 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 5: I want make it? What a time? 73 00:06:54,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Make it? 74 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's fun. 75 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: It is fun. Actually that all my nerves are gone. 76 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Oh good, that's just a fun jam. It's just it's 77 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: a good one, you know. 78 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: It's funny. That's one of the first times that I 79 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 3: was ever able to just outright say that I love someone, 80 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: even though it doesn't say that in there. It seems 81 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: so hard to say I love somebody, but it's so 82 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: easy to say I was upset or sad or something else. 83 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: You know. I don't know why. I think it's some 84 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: punk rock boy beginning, probably you know. 85 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it. 86 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: Feels good to be able to say that. Now. 87 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: It's good that you got there. It took a while 88 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: I get it, though. I mean, the sentiment of the 89 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: song is definitely received, you know. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, 90 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: great one, super fun. You are we wearing sunglasses or 91 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: those reading glasses? 92 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: These are readings? 93 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I should get my shades out. Those are cool. 94 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: I just started wearing readers. I need like cool sunglasses readers. 95 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: I realized that. For years, I was like, oh, I'm 96 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: just tired. Yeah, for years, really years, you know, and 97 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: then I someone I said, wow, I really can't see it. 98 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: I borrowed someone's readers and said, you know, such a revelation. 99 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: You woke up. 100 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: I saw this little baby online they put these like 101 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: little headband glasses on, and the look on this baby's face. 102 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've seen those videos. 103 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god, so good, like seeing the world 104 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: for the first time. 105 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: I know, is that how you felt? 106 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 5: Well? 107 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: Certainly with a menu being a menu for the first 108 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: that I realized I've never seen a man. 109 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: I know it's usually too dark. They keep it too dark. 110 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: Oh I'm supposed to play piano for them. I forgot. 111 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: It must be nice to play, to play, like be 112 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: able to play like that, like that, Yeah, Like do 113 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: you every time I watch a piano always like, oh 114 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: that must be so nice. Yeah, it is it fun 115 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: to just like how do you feel about your playing? 116 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes I really am happy with it, 117 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: and sometimes I forget how to play right, you know, Yeah, 118 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: but I feel good. I feel like I've gotten so 119 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: much better in the last ten years. Yeah, and I'm 120 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: excited by that. 121 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 122 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: And it's like I forgot that I have all this 123 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: to play with room, Yeah, because I used to be 124 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: a little more. 125 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 3: When you were what time? What time? What time is 126 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: it when you started ten o'clock? What time are you 127 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: when you started? 128 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: I was seven, I was seven o' seven. 129 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: I was seven o'clock when I started my last And 130 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: then did you did you want to do it or 131 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: did it feel? Yeah? 132 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to do it, and I beg for lessons 133 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: and my mom got to upright piano and gave me lessons, 134 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: and I promptly wanted to quit because I didn't want 135 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: to practice right, and she said, just take for five 136 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: years and then you can quit. And on the dot 137 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: five years later, I quit for about a year. 138 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: When you're seven, five years you have no concept of that. 139 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: You're like, what is that like? Tonight at eleven exactly 140 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: started at seven? 141 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you grew up playing guitar just casually polka style? 142 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: What No? 143 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: I just I think, and maybe I'm being mean to 144 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: my teacher, but Tom Polonski, I love you wherever you are. 145 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: But I felt like he wanted to keep a student 146 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: maybe or something, and polka just didn't seem like my thing. 147 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: I didn't he was really a poka teacher poka guitar. 148 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, are you serious? 149 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: I don't know they had that, but they're doing it 150 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: out there somewhere. There's a sub scene apparently. Oh there's 151 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: a scene you know that. You know. 152 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of like country and western pi. 153 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it really is the same thing. It's 154 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: all offshoots of coming out of Germany and Ireland, and 155 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: you know, it's folk music done with umpah, you know 156 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: on the and uh. But I just didn't. It didn't 157 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: resonate too much with me. So I just started playing 158 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: on my own and I stopped the lessons and that 159 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: was the last lesson I took. 160 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: Wow, you know how long did you take? 161 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: It was about eighteen months? Okay, you know, from the 162 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: age of nine to almost eleven, the year you. 163 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: Saw George Carlin. You started playing. 164 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: Pokey and listening to punk rock music. That's pretty And 165 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: I was like, but that realization that that it was 166 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: only three chords away. I didn't know bar chords for 167 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: the first year. Yeah, it was just umpah umpa, you know, 168 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: that's all you need. It was the Three Blind Mice. 169 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, the punk rock. 170 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 171 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: It's funny when they translate the beginner songs for little 172 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: kids to older kids who were starting right, do you 173 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, my kids started taking lessons 174 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: and they were learning from this book and learning these 175 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: old timey eighteen hundreds nursery rhymes. 176 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: Oh I love that stuff though. 177 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: I do too, but they were not terrified. 178 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all terrifying. Like you know, row your boat. 179 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: I find to be really eerie. Row row, roll your 180 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: boat gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily. Life 181 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: is but a dream, And I'm always like, is there 182 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: a second verse? I'm sure there. 183 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: Is where you go over the waterfall? 184 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it does. And it's like life is 185 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: but a dream life song in the right way. It's terrifying. 186 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: It is terrifying. 187 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: But I love that sort of I love that gently 188 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: scary vibe of things. 189 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah you know I can tell. Yeah, yeah, I was 190 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: drawn to that song of yours, this this lullaby because 191 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: I just wanted to sing harmonies all over it. 192 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh yeah, well we can do that. 193 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: Well we've let into it. You want to do a lullaby? 194 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's easy. 195 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: Wait a second, is the piano good or should we? 196 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 15: Yeah? 197 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 5: Was it? 198 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: The pens? 199 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 3: Depends? It depends, it's your depends. 200 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: I have a funny depend story. I'll tell you later. 201 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: No, no, I got to hear it. It doesn't have 202 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: to make the final cut, but now I need to. 203 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: That's okay, I'm here. 204 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: When I when I was cutting this, when I was 205 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: pregnant for the first time, I thought maybe for some 206 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: reason I would need like extra pads after the baby, 207 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: and so I bought some Depends. But I accidentally ordered 208 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: like five cases. 209 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: Wow, de pens that's a lot. Yeah, well, I guess 210 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: you're stocked up if I don't. 211 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: Still have them. I donated them finally because I was like, 212 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't. 213 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: Use the you could be like a doomsday prepper at all. 214 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like a pee in your pants prepper. 215 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: We've got food for six months, water and depends because 216 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: when the end comes, you might shit yourself. 217 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 218 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean I had already donated them by the time 219 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: the pandemic came along. 220 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: So the pandemic dependent. 221 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: God, this is fun. 222 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: I love that in the pandemic, you're like, somebody else 223 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: is going to need these right now. It's a very 224 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: uncomfortable time. Yeah, okay, shall I shall we shall us 225 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: no pressure, We're all counting on you. 226 00:14:43,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 5: No where have you been? Where can you be? 227 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, it's bound song? 228 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 6: Since the moon it's gone? 229 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 5: Oh what a wreck. 230 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 6: You've made me? 231 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 5: Are you there? Over? 232 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 6: The shows? 233 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: Are you there? Plean the sun. 234 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 6: Until the return? 235 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 5: Mather, the slow line, my whole person over. 236 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 6: On every face it's you as. 237 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 14: I can see, please praying each night and they embrace 238 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 14: this only dream and the show states come from more months, 239 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 14: each child and becomes a lost. 240 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 5: Won't you laugh? 241 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 6: That only become the snow high. 242 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 16: Oh oh oh oh. 243 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 15: Yeah, Oh that's so fine. 244 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: That's sweet. It's a very sweet I love that harmony. 245 00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 5: Sweet. 246 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: I forgot come in on him. I was having so 247 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: much fun. 248 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: Oh that's good. 249 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: Oh good. 250 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Actually I don't. I don't even mind little mistakes. 251 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: I love them. 252 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: This is a casual mistake friendly zone. 253 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: Then I'm totally good because I think, yeah, but well, 254 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to go. I'm just kidding, but I 255 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: think I don't know. I also grew up watching like 256 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: Carol Burnett Show and Dean Martin Show and those variety 257 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: shows like that, and my favorite part is when somebody 258 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 3: broke oh yeah, you know. In fact, i've read when 259 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 3: I was reading Dean Martin's book, I've read that he 260 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: in his contract he said that he would not come 261 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: to rehearsals. He would just come to the taping, so 262 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: everyone else all week was rehearsing, and then he would 263 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: show up and just sort of be like, yeah, babe, 264 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: it's going to be all right. He would nail it, 265 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: and he would nail it or not and then completely 266 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 3: call out the mistake. And I just think there's something 267 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: I guess. I guess it's cute. 268 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: I think it's human. Yeah, there's not a lot of 269 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: that anymore. In some places it's life. 270 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: Well, I definitely think music. 271 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: I was going to say that, but then I got 272 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: shy for some reason. 273 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: No, I think it's okay to say that because I 274 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of correcting. 275 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean now that you can, it's just so 276 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: easy to make everything perfect and it doesn't sound human anymore. 277 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: It's yeah, because perfect is what people aren't and so 278 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: it's almost it's almost setting a bar where no one 279 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: could ever actually go. And you know, I always end 280 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: up trying to play my mistakes again. We always that's. 281 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: Very jazz of you. 282 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: Definitely, it's my jazziest part in Queen's There something that 283 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 3: there's a lot of mistakes or tuning issues or things 284 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 3: on a record, because it really does end up being 285 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 3: the thing that you try to replicate. Yeah, it's more fun, 286 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: and I think people are quick to go there's a 287 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: mistake there, and you've got this, you know, because you 288 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 3: can without really thinking about. 289 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: It to correct it. 290 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's a moment in a song Honky Tonk 291 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: Woman by the Stones, and there's a moment where the 292 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: guitar goes and it's so out of tune, and I'm 293 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: always pining, waiting like okay, back up here it comes, 294 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 3: you know. 295 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 296 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean all those Dylan records had. 297 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: Weird, weird Everyone's out from each other the timing wise. Yeah, 298 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: we're listening to Rolling Stone in this morning, like a 299 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: rolling Stone, me and my boy we're driving to school, 300 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 3: and uh, it's so out from me. They're so out 301 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: from each other. Yeah, but it's just cool. 302 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: It's it's the best. You can just feel it almost, 303 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: you know. 304 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 305 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people just respond to it when it 306 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: sounds human. Yeah, the emotion is there. 307 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't. 308 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: You lose that when you perfect things. 309 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: Sometimes I think everything gets really linear. 310 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 311 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 3: Everyone goes left at the same time, everyone goes right 312 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: at the same time. And I just, uh, well, and 313 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: maybe I'm just making excuses because I know I'm going 314 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: to blow it at some point. I don't mean today, 315 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: I just mean all the time. 316 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: I think you're you're no, I think you're spot on. Yeah, 317 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: And I think you know, that's the music I love, 318 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: that's the music you love. Yeah, Yeah, I think most 319 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: people do. 320 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: I like it all over the place. 321 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. 322 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: I like a little slop, that's what she's. 323 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Sorry, we were doing jokes earlier. 324 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: No, let's still do them. 325 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Okay, that's what she said. So when you guys going 326 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: to record as a band, do you like to do 327 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: things pretty together and live? 328 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I mean if something's brand spanking new, 329 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 3: you know. I think when you make your early records, 330 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 3: you can tell me if you're the same if you're 331 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: playing with people your early records, you have those songs 332 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 3: and you're ready to go. And then as the years 333 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: have gone on the fun of being in the studio, 334 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to rush as much. Before I would 335 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: be so proud of I would say, you know, recorded 336 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: and mixed in nineteen days, you. 337 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: Know, Oh okay, and I put it on. 338 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: The records like look how fast we can move Like. 339 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: It was a sign of well, you're awesome. 340 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 3: Well and also it was like we're not we're not 341 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: second guessing, because that when you second guess, you guess 342 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: for two times. Yeah it's my brother guess once. 343 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's more like a like a badge of authenticity. 344 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: For sure, you know, because I think I think you 345 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: feel the same way. It is that that you know 346 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 3: you want music to be real and that that's some 347 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: kind of badge, like a badge like this is real. 348 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: See you look, we didn't overdo it. Yeah. Well and 349 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: I but I think as the years going to it's 350 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: just fun to be in the studio it is. 351 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: It's actually too fun. 352 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're making actualizing the sounds you hear 353 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: in your head. That's the best part, you know. I 354 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: like touring, but it's not nothing close to being in 355 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: the studio and making stuff like how it should be, 356 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 3: how it's meant to be. 357 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Do you like to record songs when they're brand new 358 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: so you capture that first sort of spirit of it 359 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: or impression of it, or do you like to rehearse 360 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: and think and like I mean some I guess every 361 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: song is different. Some songs are better that way for me. 362 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: And then if I have to think about them, they're 363 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: they're very hard. 364 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: Well, I uh, it feels best when they just come 365 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: and and they have those mistakes and they have the rawness. 366 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: I just needed to be raw too. I don't want 367 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: it to be sonically polished either. And then there's other 368 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: things that it's like going to Joe Ann's or Michael's 369 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: and you're just crafting. 370 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: I did not. I think we'd be very and Joann's 371 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: into this. 372 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: I love jos and Michael's clothes. Yeah, I don't like 373 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 3: to talk about that. Okay, she's gone, bitch, you're done. 374 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: But uh yeah, so there are some stuff I think 375 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 3: when we're doing this stuff now, sometimes we track it 376 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: as a trio so the other guys can really let 377 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 3: the stone sing to the bottom and sure what's happening? 378 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: And it's hard we have we're five. It's hard to 379 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: track with five people that don't know what's going on 380 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: because you're you're actually accidentally stepping on each other all 381 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: the time, which is natural. We have a rule in 382 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: Queens that whoever brings the song that you sort of 383 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: talk about the personality of it, what's its intent, what 384 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: does it look like, what does it wear? What is it? 385 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: How does it Behave you explain that? Yeah, and talk 386 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 3: through the imagery sort of, because it's fun to not 387 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 3: only have this to humanize this song, but to say 388 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: where it lives and what it does. 389 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: You know, what's a drink for breakfast? 390 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, tequila? 391 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: Should we do COLLAPSI. 392 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: This that I wrote this for my daughter. 393 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: Which yeah, I was going to ask about that title. 394 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: I had to google it because I'm not very smart 395 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: with Greek. 396 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: Is that what it is? 397 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: Is that not what it is? 398 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: Well? Okay, So Alex Turner from The Arctic Monkeys and 399 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: I have this long running habit we just send, you 400 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: text each other a word, you know, and and because 401 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 3: there's so many great, chubby, juicy, colorful words out there 402 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: that's true, you know, words that that I I try 403 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: never to use the word it if I can. Yeah, 404 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: And anyways, he texted me. I texted him a word 405 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 3: which I can't remember because it wasn't as good as 406 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 3: the word he texted me, which was collopsia, which is 407 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: the condition where everything looks appears more beautiful than it 408 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: really is. 409 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: That's what it is. Yeah, it's not Greek. 410 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: It very well could be. I mean, aren't they all 411 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 3: in the end? 412 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. 413 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: So. 414 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: You know that's such a beautiful sentiment. 415 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, I think when you have 416 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 3: little ones there, everything is new, and so they're experiencing 417 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: all the joys and all this sort of social difficulties 418 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: you know where they're you know, when you walk in 419 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: a room and there's someone really short in your house 420 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 3: and they're hanging their head. But you really can't fix 421 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: their problems. You just can sit with them until they 422 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: till they feel better. And so I think, uh, you know, 423 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: once i'd cracked the seal on playing love songs, you know, 424 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, you can you can point this that, 425 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: this notion of love in every direction. You've got it. 426 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: You know. 427 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: After I had kids, I had the same realization. 428 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that opens up a whole new wing of songwriting. 429 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: It's pretty special because it's it goes in a different direction. Yeah, 430 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: and then the listener doesn't have to realize it. 431 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean traditionally, I don't bother saying those things 432 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: because their purpose is already done. I know what it is, 433 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 3: and I think sometimes you might rob somebody of what 434 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: it is for them. Yeah, and I think that's a 435 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: shame to pop bubbles. 436 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: I agree. I don't like explaining songs, yeah, saying what 437 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: they're about. 438 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I guess I just blew it cut. 439 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you actually explained it. You just you 440 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: just kind of said where it. 441 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 3: Can possible, said enough, it's possible, said enough. But also, 442 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: there's something very much of a lullaby about this. 443 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Somehow it is a lullaby. 444 00:26:50,440 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 17: Yeah, ah mm hmm, Camille will be very happy. 445 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 3: Ready Aye. 446 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 6: Love lie to myself. 447 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 5: Tonight row tim tonight, color my sorrows. 448 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 6: A shade a lie. 449 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: Sounds beautiful. 450 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 5: Bye b bye black bird. 451 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 6: Serious soon. 452 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 5: Wave bye bye. 453 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 8: Oh why you're so sad? But had they done? Forget 454 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 8: those badness bad bus They're off playing in god calm 455 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 8: be concentrations are playing day who can and buds of 456 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 8: badness consolem and parade. 457 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 18: Yeah, is it wonderful? Collapsa oh collapsa yeah, collapsia. 458 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 5: Far far. 459 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 12: From shore, the land the nightmas come for even mores. 460 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 11: The the. 461 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 5: Hand can control. I don't even contry. Why would I 462 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 5: wad aloud? Face got it out round? 463 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 8: Forget the radias, which you saying? The ballads famous, the 464 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 8: words who hit the tam the ravel, the stain of 465 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 8: the lasts, nay round. 466 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 5: The ball. 467 00:31:26,640 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: To here we go. My daughter was going to love that. 468 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: Actually yeah, yeah, oh good, Yeah, I love the version 469 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: you did from the Life from the Catacombs. 470 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 471 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: Can you explain what the catacombs in Paris are to 472 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: anyone who doesn't know? 473 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: The catacombs were a mine that is about two hundred 474 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: and twenty kilometers worth of mine shafts underneath the city 475 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: of Paris, as is the case with all these big 476 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: cities or's tunnels everywhere. And in the late seventeen hundreds, 477 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: the cemeteries were overflowing in Paris and it was becoming 478 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 3: a real problem. And in the night they emptied the 479 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 3: graves from these mass cemeteries and wheelbarrowed through the streets 480 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 3: of Paris. That is insane to These cisterns were there 481 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: to you know, formally take debris, you know, ventilate the 482 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: mind shafts and you know, pass water up and down 483 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 3: and dumped the bodies of thousands and thousands until it 484 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 3: became millions of people. And at the bottom of these 485 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: these dump sites, which sounds like a terrible phrase actually, 486 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 3: but yeah, at the bottom of these these dump sites, 487 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 3: the these these men and women lovingly, respectfully, artistically created 488 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: a mosaic with millions of bones. 489 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: And they did it with everyone, with all the all 490 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: the bodies or just some well, they they ran out 491 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: of steam at some point. 492 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: So there are locations in the catacomb that are simply 493 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: piles of bones. But that has its own sort of 494 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 3: when you experience any part of this, you're immediately faced 495 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: with thoughts and questions you never had ever, or that 496 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: that maybe you swept under the rug about this life 497 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: and the length of it and the depth of it. 498 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: You know, and there's this beautiful mosaic of human beings 499 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 3: and you know when you're you know this, when you're 500 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: in a studio, the surfaces are all different surfaces in 501 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 3: order to sort of like capture the sound and not 502 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: let it overly reflect too much. And that organic process 503 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 3: is happening in the catacombs, the poorest nature of bones. 504 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 3: But you know when you palm someone's skull and there's 505 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: there's the village idiot and great thinkers in the catacombs. 506 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: Jean Paul Satras in there amongst right, and wow, so 507 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 3: no one was spared. Everyone was given the same beautiful treatment. 508 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's beautiful. 509 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: Crazy, Yeah, it's crazy there. They were the first person 510 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: to play there legally. 511 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but somebody else's played. 512 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they've had there's been underground raves and oh wow, 513 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: there was one cool story. Actually, this's always fascinated me 514 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: that you know, there are you know, sort of like 515 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: vaulted areas that open up and get larger that's the 516 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 3: case in any mind, like a central meeting point where 517 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: it gets bigger. Yeah, And there was a movie screen, 518 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: a projector, and a dinner table for twenty that was 519 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: completely set with a small, very small spinet piano in there. 520 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: And the city worker that discovered it turned around and 521 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: ran back to get authorities, which seems like a real 522 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: tattletale thing to me personally, where it's like, oh, thanks 523 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 3: a lotta, thanks a lot, you know, Travis or whoever 524 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 3: it was. It was like Pierre Pierre Pressure, the great 525 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 3: French persuasions. But he went to get authorities and came 526 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 3: back the next morning and it was all gone, and 527 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 3: there was a note on the floor that said do 528 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 3: not try to find us. And I just love that's 529 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: again back to this sort of romantic, scary, exclusive little club. 530 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean, elitism sucks when I'm not included, but this 531 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: I can imagine wanting to be desperately part of this movie. 532 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 3: Night in the bowels of What do you think was shown? Jesus? 533 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 3: What do you think it would be? Psycho? Or maybe 534 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 3: it's Amili or something beautiful. 535 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: Whimsical. 536 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 3: Maybe it's breakfast at Tiffany's. 537 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: Did they project it onto the bones or. 538 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 3: Was there a there was a screen, and there was 539 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 3: a screen, it was all ready to go. 540 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 13: Ready. 541 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's cataphiles who roam and and there's people 542 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 3: that go in there just to make movies. Oh yeah, 543 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: that are like I'm lost, But that aren't that. It 544 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: isn't true. It's all a rus you know how deep? 545 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it must be huge. Can you get lost 546 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: in it? 547 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 3: Certainly? Yeaheah. And a lot of the from what I'm told, 548 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: a lot of the entrances you see that are just 549 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 3: simply a manhole or just a grate over here with 550 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: a stairwell, unbeknownst to you, they lead straight into the catacombs, 551 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 3: you know in Paris. Yeah, because if you think about 552 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty kilometers of you know, Paris is 553 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 3: a large city. Yeah, but you are talking about the 554 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 3: entire old the old city much larger than that span 555 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 3: of that city. 556 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: This is wild. 557 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really cool. 558 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: Actually, how did you think that you wanted to do that? 559 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: Have you visited it a lot? 560 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 3: I'd never I saw pictures of it when I was 561 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 3: just a boy and was just couldn't believe you could 562 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: do that with death and art could mix and you know, 563 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 3: when you're little, you don't understand that you won't live forever, 564 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: you know. So I was I thought, oh my goodness, 565 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: what does that mean? And no one talks to you 566 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: about that stuff, or certainly not to me. No, and 567 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 3: so on tour about eighteen nineteen years ago. I tried 568 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 3: to go and just see it and the line was 569 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 3: about three hours long. Oh so you can get in, 570 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 3: And I did this really musician spoiled thing. I was like, 571 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 3: if we play there, can I cut the line and 572 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 3: but that and then yeah, and it was you know, 573 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: and the first answer we got was no, of course. 574 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: And I just made a habit of asking whenever we 575 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 3: were going to do a European tour. Let's ask again. 576 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: So you've been asking for eighteen years. 577 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have. 578 00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: That's incredible. 579 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 3: Well it doesn't. It didn't take much to ask. I'd 580 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 3: talked to people at times and not talk to people 581 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: at times, and and heard absolutely absolutely not. You know, 582 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 3: many times, yeah, absolutely not. I was asking the wrong 583 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: person in. 584 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: The wrong country. 585 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I just uh, I think at times, as 586 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 3: a joke almost I said, we're coming back, go again, 587 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: and uh, I've had many wild and fantastical events occur 588 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,959 Speaker 3: for me and my bandmates in Paris, and uh yeah, 589 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: and so the time was right and uh and we 590 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 3: got our chance, you know. And so I think the 591 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 3: reason for the version of that song done that way 592 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 3: is the simplest. 593 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 19: You know. 594 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 3: I'm always looking for a green light, you know, to 595 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 3: know to progress forward, and obviously a red light means 596 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 3: turned your direction. But the first green light was everything 597 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 3: is stripped to bare bones, and that's what we should 598 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 3: do too. 599 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's beautiful and everybody sounds so great. 600 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone, everyone did a really really good job. 601 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: You know, it's beautiful. I love listening to the whole thing. 602 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you. It turned I'm really happy how 603 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 3: it turned. 604 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: Out, you know. Yeah, and I heard that you were 605 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: not well during it as well. 606 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that made it better because I mean, what 607 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 3: are the chances that after eighteen years, when the yes 608 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 3: finally came, that I would be when I walked down 609 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 3: in there and facing all these other lives that mine 610 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: would be that would be hard to be in mine, 611 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 3: you know. And I just think it made it better because, well, 612 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 3: you don't get a chance to show who you really 613 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: are all the time. It's true, you know, and when 614 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: Tho's moments come up, you know, it feels nice because 615 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 3: someone told me anxiety is worrying about the future, and 616 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 3: depression is worrying about the past. And you're just looking. 617 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 3: You only live one moment and can add it infinitem. 618 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: You know, you're only in one. We're only here. The 619 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 3: rest of this is all dress rehearsal for now. Yeah, 620 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 3: and I really felt the most present that I'd ever 621 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 3: felt playing ever. So I think of it as a 622 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 3: like a like a complete blessing, you know. Yeah, I 623 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,479 Speaker 3: gotta go. Ok, No, I'm just kidding, and I'm leaving. 624 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm enjoying myself. 625 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: Good, I am too. 626 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun and it's fun to do this, right, 627 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 3: It's so much fun. I watched like ten of these today. 628 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: Oh dear, so you know, I'm a Cooper. 629 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 3: I just think it looks like you're really enjoying yourself. 630 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 3: I see why you do this. It's really it's actually 631 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 3: what we're supposed to be doing. 632 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: Kind of is you should guess how sometime. Yeah, you 633 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: get to pick whoever you want. 634 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 3: Hello, you know exactly. Well, I also love strange chemistry. 635 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 3: I think it's very easy for people to say like, 636 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,959 Speaker 3: oh that did that caught me off card it doesn't 637 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: make sense, but really or like. 638 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: A pairing of two people that you wouldn't put together. 639 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like us, but really it makes total sense. 640 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: This always makes sense to me. 641 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the stranger it gets, the more beautiful 642 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 3: it gets. 643 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: I agree, you know. 644 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: I mean it's almost like if you can get someone 645 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: out of their elements. 646 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 18: Yeah. 647 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 3: On this tour we're doing, it's I'm terrified, like I 648 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 3: haven't been for twenty five years. 649 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: And because it's stripped back. 650 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 3: It's so if you're going to do something uncomfortable and 651 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 3: empty to a crowd, you have to be empty and 652 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 3: uncomfortable with yourself, okay, and you have to let the 653 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 3: silence hang on just realizing that silent is the loudest 654 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 3: quiet we'll ever get. 655 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: Is that the song idea? That's great. 656 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 3: No, it's just the understanding of like, yeah, you know 657 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 3: and and but we're also playing really deep cuts that 658 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 3: we don't play only because they're fucking hard. It's actually hard. 659 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,959 Speaker 1: So it's hard. It's a hard show. 660 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 3: And that's like the end of the show is the 661 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 3: end of the show is deep cuts. And so I 662 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 3: have no guitar on, and and then I put my 663 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 3: guitar on. I'm like, oh my god, it's hard. Like 664 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 3: do you have you certainly have songs that are just hard. 665 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 5: Yeah. 666 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: I usually don't play them for that reason because. 667 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 3: They're like, oh my god, damn, I have to practice. Yeah, 668 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: and I have to practice practice, practice. 669 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,439 Speaker 6: Yeah. 670 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean my songs are mostly pretty simple. There's a 671 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 1: few tricky ones. 672 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have things where you're playing guitar 673 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: lead that's that's syncopated to what you're singing. 674 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: Oh, that that's hard. That's that's a coordination issue. 675 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. 676 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 11: It is. 677 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I stab your slip. 678 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 6: In the eye. 679 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 3: And but I always think it would look so cool 680 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,919 Speaker 3: if you were in the front row and you saw 681 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: somebody and they were playing this guitar lead that had 682 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 3: nothing to do with the vocal and singing at the 683 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 3: same time, and they're just doing it, and there's a 684 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 3: lot of like like at home, just tapping my foot 685 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 3: really slowly that you can do it. Yeah, you know, 686 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: where you're just and going, oh this singing the next 687 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 3: words on the end. 688 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: You know, let's hear it. 689 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: Oh no, And it's just uh yeah, I want to 690 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: do a good job. 691 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: So I think that's great. That means you're in it. 692 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: You know, you're still in it. 693 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's no reason to ever stop pushing hard. 694 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 3: I just don't understand why I do this. 695 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand that, and you understand that, but 696 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: I don't feel like everybody does that. 697 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 3: I know, I know, but there's room for everybody. There's 698 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 3: there's you know. On the one hand, I used to 699 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 3: sort of thumb my nose to people that didn't write 700 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 3: their own music, and then I was like, wait a minute, 701 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 3: my some of my favorite people didn't write their music. 702 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 3: Elvis didn't write you know. It's like Connie Francis, you know, 703 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 3: you know they're singing other people's songs, but they And 704 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 3: so I let that go because that's just a ridiculous notion. 705 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 3: And there's some people that play because they want to 706 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 3: be famous, and I understand that that's not that's not 707 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 3: what I'm trying to do. But there's room for everybody. 708 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 3: I don't care. 709 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: I just want to be famous enough to get into 710 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 1: the Catacombs to do a gig. 711 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 3: I just want to. I want to. I want everyone 712 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 3: that could like our music to have a chance to 713 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 3: hear it isn't that the best? 714 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: You know? 715 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 3: And I and I think something like the Catacombs is 716 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 3: just a way to recharge your battery. I want to 717 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 3: be I want to reserve the right to be surprised 718 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 3: by life and I and those things. You know, it's 719 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 3: fun to play festivals, but if you just did that, 720 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 3: it wouldn't be enough. It's not enough. 721 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 1: It's funny. I love playing festivals because that energy is 722 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: something my normal shows doesn't does. It's more reserved. 723 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 5: Yeah. 724 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 3: Well, and I like the idea of being thrown up 725 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 3: there like everyone else and can you do it or not? 726 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 18: You know? 727 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 3: So I like that too, But any one thing is 728 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 3: not enough, you know. 729 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 730 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 3: I need. 731 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 5: I need. 732 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 3: I have musical schizophrenia. You're you're doing this because you 733 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 3: have it too, you wouldn't be doing it, right. 734 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 735 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to be where I'm not allowed to go. 736 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 3: Tell me I'm not supposed to be there, so I 737 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 3: can go there. 738 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 15: Yeah you know so. 739 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but some stuff is hard. 740 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that's fine, But it's more fun that. 741 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 3: Way, for sure. It's like, you know, yeah, you could love. 742 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: What are you teaching your kids? 743 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 5: Right? 744 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: If it's hard, don't do it. No, that's not no, 745 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: not at all. 746 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 747 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 3: You know, my Grandpa's always like life is hard because 748 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 3: it's worth it. And I think that that's probably good 749 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 3: enough to go. 750 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Well, have you ever sang 751 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra before? 752 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,280 Speaker 3: I've sung a lot of Dean Martin. 753 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 5: I haven't sung this. 754 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 18: Yeah. 755 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 3: Oh no, I did this once. 756 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 20: He did. 757 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 3: I did this once before with who. I don't want 758 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 3: to say they're totally important. I swear to god she 759 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:22,720 Speaker 3: meant nothing yet. Yeah, but I I love your voice. 760 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 3: It's so creamy. It's like just like a glass of buttermilk. 761 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 5: And then go. 762 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 3: And yeah, this this version that I sent you was 763 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 3: the version that's Frank Sinatra and Nancy Sinatra. 764 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know that was Nancy and Frank. I actually 765 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: didn't know it in a deep way. I knew the 766 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: song very well, but I didn't ever think about it. 767 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 3: Well, many people have done it, right, I've many. 768 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: People have done it, but I didn't think about it. 769 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 3: Being a father and a daughter, Yeah, it's sort of like, hey, don't. 770 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 1: Getting cheeky with each other. 771 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's like lyrically clearly they just want to 772 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 3: spend time together and sing together, you. 773 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, which is sweet. 774 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is really sweet. I mean, I you know, uh, 775 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 3: you can only dream that you would like sing with 776 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 3: your kids one day, or play with music with your 777 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 3: kids one day. 778 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: Totally. 779 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 3: You played with your old. 780 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: Man, I uh not really once in a room and 781 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 1: it was really hilarious. 782 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 3: Really yeah, why what was that? What was it? 783 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: Because I had already broke out and I had already 784 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: had two albums, maybe three. I think I was going 785 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: through a breakup, and I went to spend time with them, 786 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: and I brought like a little travel guitar, which was 787 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: really crappy, and so I sat with him and he 788 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: was teaching me like a pupil, you know. He was 789 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: a really prolific teacher, right, and that music is serious. 790 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: They take it very seriously. Sure, And so it was 791 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: just kind of funny because I was not like trying 792 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: to be serious. 793 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were just trying to I just wanted to 794 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 3: jam with my dad. I just want to jam with 795 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 3: my dad. 796 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: He was super nice. It wasn't it wasn't like he 797 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: was not into it. It was just it was kind 798 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: of a disconnect of the intention because he was very 799 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: seriously trying to teach me something. 800 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 3: I mean, but that's life, hasn't it though. It's so 801 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 3: hard to understand someone else or to be understood. 802 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I wasn't ready to receive it 803 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: in the way that. 804 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 3: He needed to touch it. Yeah, it's not a teaching moment. 805 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: I was more just like I just wanted to play 806 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm going Nora, I'm sorry, but it was a sweet 807 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: it was it was a sweet thing that we tried. 808 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: It was too bad it never really really happened. Yeah, yeah, 809 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: but I get I played with my sister sometimes, my 810 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: half sister who learned from him, and she was teaching 811 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: it too. No, no, she can just jam in me. 812 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: It's really special. 813 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 3: I think that's the nature of jamming, is the much 814 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 3: like the spread on toast. It's just supposed to get 815 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 3: all over the place. 816 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. 817 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 3: Again in the imperfection zone, I'm really setting myself up 818 00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 3: to make any mistakes I want. 819 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of be great. 820 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 5: I love it. 821 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: I love that you picked this song, and I love 822 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: that this is the first song he picked, because usually 823 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: I have to coax people to pick a cover. Oh. 824 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 3: I was like when you where, you were like we 825 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 3: could play some yours I thought. My first reaction was 826 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 3: oh yeah, you said no, Yeah I was. 827 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: But you know, it's like a it's like a choose 828 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: your own adventure. Yeah, it can be whatever we want. 829 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 3: Okay, if I ever come back here, we'll do anything 830 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 3: you want. Okay, nothing but cuffs. 831 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: I'll pick two and you pick two. 832 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 3: That's great, we'll go okay. Yeah, uh like unnecessary competition 833 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 3: even though it's not. We'll put them in a box 834 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 3: like to like four turtles, four turtles racing. All right, well, 835 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 3: all right, I'll see you out there. 836 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,879 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll see you there. 837 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 3: One. Two. 838 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 11: I know, I stand a line until you think you 839 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 11: have the time to spend the leavening with me, And 840 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 11: if we go someplace to dance, I know that there's 841 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 11: a chance you won't be leaving with me. 842 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 5: Then afterwards we drop into a quiet little place. 843 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 20: And have a drink or two, and there I go 844 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 20: and spoil it all by saying something stupid. 845 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: Like I love you. 846 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 3: I can see your eyes that. 847 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 6: You despise the same old lies. 848 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 5: You've heard the night before, And though it's just a 849 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 5: line to you and me, it's. 850 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 6: True and never felt so right before. 851 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, felt is good. 852 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 5: Practice. 853 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 19: Every day to find some clever lines to say and 854 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:11,399 Speaker 19: make the meaning come true. Then I think I'll wait 855 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,240 Speaker 19: until the evening gets later. 856 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 5: And I'm alone with you. The time is right, your 857 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 5: perfume fills might have. 858 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 21: The size gets red, and all the nights so blue, 859 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 21: And then I go and spoil it all by saying 860 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 21: something stupid like at. 861 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 5: The time is right to believe fills my head and 862 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 5: all the lights so blue? 863 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 6: And then I go and spoil it all by saying 864 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 6: something stupid like I love you. 865 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 5: Oh that was That was so fun. 866 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 3: That was so much fun. I could that one. I 867 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 3: could just sing over and over and over me do 868 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 3: You're the best? Thank you, Thank you so much for 869 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 3: having me. 870 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: This is a blast. Oh thanks for listening. That was 871 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 1: so fun. 872 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:55,760 Speaker 5: That was awesome. 873 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: He's a he's a real personality. He's hilarious. He needs 874 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 1: to guess host in one of our episodes. I think 875 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: he should. Yeah, I think we This was his audition. 876 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 5: In the cast. 877 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 1: I feel like there's many guests we've had that should 878 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: be a guest host. 879 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 3: We should do that though. 880 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'll be fun and you know, give 881 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: us a little break. Yes, maybe they can do all 882 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: the editing and post productions. Right, Yeah, let's go on 883 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: a vacation. First time we did was make It with 884 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: You from Queens of the Stone Age from the album 885 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: Air of Vulgaris two thousand and seven that was released. 886 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 1: The second song we played was called This Lullaby from 887 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: Queens of the Stone Age Songs for the Deaf, released 888 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand and two. The third song we played 889 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: was Collapsia from Queens of the stone Age like Clockword, 890 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: released in twenty thirteen. It's also on the a Live 891 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 1: in the Catacombs live recording, which is a pretty special version. 892 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: Check it out. Fourth is All We Did was Something Stupid, 893 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: originally recorded by the Great Frank Sinatra and Nancy Sinatra, 894 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: written by Carson Parks from the album The World We Knew, 895 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,760 Speaker 1: which was a Rank Sinatra album in nineteen sixty seven 896 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: that was released. Special thanks to Joshua Hami for joining 897 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: us today. Next week we'll be back with Lucius Whoo. 898 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: Nora Jones Is Playing Along is a production of iHeart Podcasts. 899 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 1: Visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe while 900 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: you're there. I'm your host, Norah Jones. This episode was 901 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 1: recorded at Westlake Studios in Los Angeles, California by Thomas Warren. 902 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 1: Assistant engineer was Dan Forth, Webster, backline tech Jason Moser, 903 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: Gaffer Mickey Andagucci. Mixed by Jamie Landry. Audio post production 904 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 1: and mastering by Greg Tobler. Additional recording by Matt Marinelli. 905 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: Creative consulting by First Three, artwork by Eliza Frye, Photography 906 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: by Shervin Linez. Produced by Nora Jones and Sarah Oda. 907 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: Executive producers Aaron wan Kaufman and Jordan Rundogg. Marketing lead. 908 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,919 Speaker 1: Queen and Nake have a Great One. 909 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 2: I