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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is the j n Vy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the

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Speaker 3: guy we are the Breakfast Club just is out today.

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Speaker 3: Lord l Rosa filling in and we got a special

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Speaker 3: guest in the building.

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Speaker 2: He's back. Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Coog. We welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Brother. Man. It's nice to be here.

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Speaker 4: We feel I'm feeling good, Bro, feeling good. We just

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Speaker 4: mary our movie last night. You know, so happy to

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Speaker 4: happy to be at this stage. You're putting it out.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm happy to be here talking to you

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Speaker 4: all about it.

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Speaker 2: Man, Think about Ryan.

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Speaker 5: No matter what Ryan is doing, no matter how long

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Speaker 5: he in Hollywood, that Oakland do not get up.

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Speaker 2: You can hear every.

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Speaker 5: Time you're talking about I feel like you're about to

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Speaker 5: ask me what's said I'm from.

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Speaker 1: Tripping, Bro. We don't.

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Speaker 4: We don't even now we ask why in Oakland? Bro,

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Speaker 4: That's that's the la thing. Ask you about that.

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Speaker 2: But how do you stay so rounded though?

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Speaker 5: Like you can hear the Oakland in you, Like you're

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Speaker 5: doing movies that got ninety million dollar budgets.

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Speaker 2: But it don't changes.

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Speaker 4: Just my actions how I talk about can't change it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's you know, it's yeah, I can't just like I

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Speaker 4: Amy something like he's from New York, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just I think what it is. It's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of us.

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Speaker 4: From like that, from like that era, like me and

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Speaker 4: me and me and mar Shaun about the same age.

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Speaker 2: He's another oneand they never leave.

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Speaker 4: Dan Dame Dang literally quite younger than us, but he

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Speaker 4: like of that of that era.

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Speaker 1: But Dame a little you know what I'm saying, Dame

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Speaker 1: a little bit younger.

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Speaker 4: You know, we we it's just certain like like every

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Speaker 4: every era of Oakland talk a little talk talks a

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Speaker 4: little different, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like my mom.

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Speaker 4: Her, she she talks very proper, but but but but

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Speaker 4: it also has a little a little bit of the

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Speaker 4: South in it, a little more of the South in

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Speaker 4: it than than us. And my grandmother she's from you know,

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Speaker 4: born in put Out, the Texas. They moved oak until

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Speaker 4: she was twelve, so she sounds completely like she like

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Speaker 4: a Texan, you know what I'm saying. And then it's

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Speaker 4: like and it's like a class thing too. You feel

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Speaker 4: me like my little brothers you know, we moved to Richmond,

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Speaker 4: like I don't remember. I don't really remember Oakland, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And and we went we went

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Speaker 4: to Catholic school. You feel me so like like they

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Speaker 4: action is slightly different from mine to you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, like my like my my action. I know

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Speaker 4: exactly where it's from, the areas from it got locked

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Speaker 4: in when I was like seven or eight years old.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny because my mom's just it's actually funny.

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Speaker 4: My mom remember when my actions started to change because

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Speaker 4: I started hanging out. She was like, hey man, you're

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Speaker 4: talking like them, you know, saying, talking like them, you

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Speaker 4: know outside you know what I'm saying'snna get stuck like that?

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Speaker 1: So my whole life I gotta, I gotta. I never

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Speaker 1: have to explain it, you know what i'mer stand. But

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Speaker 1: but yeah, bro, it's it's it's just how I talk.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't talk about different.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I love it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you mentioned Centers yesterday, that the

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Speaker 3: preview was yesterday the press, I should say, so explain

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Speaker 3: to people what Centers is about. I'm sure they seen

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Speaker 3: the commercial they've seen the trailers, but what is centers about?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's like the plot or yeah, yeah, the plot.

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Speaker 4: It's about two twin brothers who come home to their

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Speaker 4: Uh and they kind of, you know, they basically gangsters,

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Speaker 4: Who's this bluest prodigy and they got plans of opening

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Speaker 4: up a juke joint, you know, which is like a

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Speaker 1: And uh so it's a twenty four hour movie.

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Speaker 4: They gather wrap all all their friends from their past

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Speaker 4: who you know, to start this business, and then you know,

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Speaker 5: How difficult was it directing one actor for two different

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Speaker 1: I mean it was, man, it was Yeah, I guess,

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Speaker 4: I guess I wouldn't want to talk about it like

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Speaker 4: in terms of degree of difficulty, right, but but it

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Speaker 4: was definitely complicated, you know what I'm saying. Like, but

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Speaker 4: I got a I got a great team brought, got

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Speaker 4: we just came up with a plan and how to

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Speaker 4: who had done things like it, you know. I was

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Speaker 4: in conversation with christ Nolan, who's a mentor of mine,

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Speaker 4: and he did a similar thing. He actually did a

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Speaker 4: couple of movies that had that had like kind of

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Speaker 4: twenty elements. He did a movie called The Prestige spoiler alert.

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Speaker 4: It's some you know some it's a twin element in that.

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Speaker 4: And then he also did a movie called Tenant that

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Speaker 4: with John David Washington's fighting himself, you know. So so

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Speaker 4: so I talked with him a little bit. I was

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Speaker 4: But there was another film back on named Sean Darkin

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Speaker 4: just done he's just done a television series called Dead Ringers,

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Speaker 4: the remake of a David Carnenberg film. But it started

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Speaker 4: Rachel Weiss as twin Gyn in Collogists. You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that that that identical twin guy colleges played

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Speaker 4: phone with him for about He probably talked for about

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Speaker 4: about an hour on how they how they made that,

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Speaker 4: how they made that work, and he ran it down

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Speaker 4: things I should be thinking about. And I'll be ever

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Speaker 4: grateful that. I'll be ever grateful to Sean and I

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Speaker 4: actually need to reach out to him, you know. But

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Speaker 4: but you like, it's it's it's a lot, it's very

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Speaker 4: very technical, but it's actually that it's actually the hardest

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Speaker 4: with you, because I'm you know, I'm I'm near with

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Speaker 4: far parts of parts of okay, yeah, so so so

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Speaker 4: for Michael, you know, you know, he had to he

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Speaker 4: had to embody two completely different people who were identical twins,

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Speaker 4: right and on and on days where you know where

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Speaker 1: We had to cast a.

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Speaker 4: Twin double, which is an actor who bastually is the

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Speaker 1: But somebody's not talking to himself. Okay.

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Speaker 6: So when I was watching it, because even the first

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Speaker 6: But I'm like, as an actor, I know you kind

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Speaker 2: Is yea, Now Lauren wants the stunt double number just

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Speaker 2: like Michael. He built like can't get the original.

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Speaker 6: When they killed a snake in the back of the truck,

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Speaker 4: I mean, look a lot of work, man, you feel

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Speaker 4: But also Mike had to have to know what he

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Speaker 4: These dudes just gangsters, straight up, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: World War One veterans and you know and and and

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Speaker 4: one brother is is far more gangster than the other one.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, you were Actually it's funny

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Speaker 4: because it was it was it was complicated because he's

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Speaker 4: actually kind of cool, you know, like like constantly more

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Speaker 4: cunning than anything. You got that funny story about Nelly, Bro,

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, what we said, he said,

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Speaker 4: Nelly calmly.

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Speaker 5: Told you, like I got a continuous for everybody be like, yo,

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Speaker 2: I'm like Nelly.

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Speaker 1: I realized it was. It was, it was a whole thing.

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Speaker 4: And my mom's older sisters are identical twins, my Auntie

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Speaker 4: So the situation she's talking about smokes by himself and

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Speaker 3: the complexity of what you're talking about or what caught

438
00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:25,760
Speaker 3: you with this movie?

439
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,680
Speaker 6: There's some family ties, right.

440
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, so I can talk about all of

441
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 4: it here. It's the best it's the best place to

442
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,560
Speaker 4: talk about man. Thank you, thank y'all for inviting, because

443
00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,000
Speaker 4: y'all y'all get all of this. So, so look, I

444
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 4: had an uncle, uh now, uncle James Edmonson, and he

445
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,280
Speaker 4: was he was he was he was born and raised

446
00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 4: in Mississippi. But then but then flagg uh to Auckland

447
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,119
Speaker 4: when he was like in his twenties, you know. So

448
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,840
Speaker 4: so you know, that's where I was born. And we

449
00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,239
Speaker 4: probably like the second way with a great migration, right

450
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 4: you know. And and he was the he was basically

451
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,879
Speaker 4: like the oldest member of my family for for all,

452
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 4: this male member of my family for a long time.

453
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 4: And when my parents couldn't afford to buy a house

454
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 4: on Auckland, we ended up moving to Richmond, which is

455
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 4: you know, it's essentially like like Newark would be here

456
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 4: here and here in New York, right if Oakland was Brooklyn.

457
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 4: And and shortly after we moved, my uncle James his

458
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,399
Speaker 4: family moved. It was like down the block from me,

459
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 4: you know. So I would go spend time with him

460
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 4: to get out the house, I could walk to his house.

461
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,399
Speaker 4: And all he would do when he was off from

462
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 4: work is he would listen to to to either watch

463
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 4: it San Fransco Giants game on TV, or he would

464
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 4: listen to it on the radio for what in televas

465
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,160
Speaker 4: to drink all Tyler whiskey and play blues records on vinyl,

466
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And I came to associate

467
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 4: that music with him. I didn't think about the music,

468
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 4: you know, for me, And for me it was it

469
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 4: was you know what I'm saying, it was it was

470
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 4: rapping R and B.

471
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: Right.

472
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 4: But but in twenty fifteen, he ended up, he ended

473
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 4: up passing away and and he and he and he

474
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 4: he got shick while I was making Creed.

475
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was, I was.

476
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 4: I was in Philly for most of the time while

477
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 4: he was sick. Then I had to go to l A,

478
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying and do post production. And

479
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 4: I got the call that he died while I was like,

480
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, like picture locking or something, and I

481
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 4: felt like ship bro, can.

482
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: I cuts on this course?

483
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

484
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: I felt like ship Bro. I remember being in the

485
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: in the.

486
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 4: Hallway with my wife who who who produced this movie

487
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 4: Centers and just and just feeling like just feeling like

488
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 4: what the fuck am I doing?

489
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: Man? I'm not I'm not at home with my you

490
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

491
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not going I'm like in a hallway

492
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 4: and in the middle of l A and some some

493
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 4: dirty production facility, you know, you know what I'm saying.

494
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 4: And and I and I I made at home for

495
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 4: the funeral, but I never reckoned with that, that that

496
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 4: that feeling of of not being there with somebody who

497
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 4: was so important to me. And and so I would

498
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 4: find myself when I was thinking about him playing like

499
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 4: all blues records you feel me like and I And

500
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,479
Speaker 4: when I would listen to him, it was like if

501
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 4: I caused my eyes like he was there with me,

502
00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 4: you know, you know what I'm saying, Like the power

503
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 4: of the the power of music to be able to

504
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 4: do that right, and so so you got that.

505
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 1: There was another element to it. Uh So I've been making.

506
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 4: Films based on other things basically my whole my whole career, right, Like,

507
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 4: Like my first feature film was Frouville, and I was

508
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 4: based on a really like a real thing that happened,

509
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying where where I'm from, right,

510
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 4: And it's it's only you know, it's it's only it's

511
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 4: only so many ways you tell that story. And I

512
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 4: was trying to tell it the way that that that

513
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 4: that that that I had the most integrity for where

514
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 4: I'm from before, for his family and for that who

515
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 4: that who that young man was who was murdered by

516
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 4: but by the police officer, right, and and and and

517
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 4: then then I was forced to make like a movie

518
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 4: in the Rocky in the Rocky Universe, right, you know

519
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, a movie about Paul Creed's son. And

520
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: like I hired for the Black Panther movies, you know

521
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know, these all stuff based on

522
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: other things. So so I'm on Panther two and it's

523
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: it's taken a long time. We had a lot of experience,

524
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of tragedy, a lot of misfortune.

525
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 4: It's a lot that that wasn't just us, by the way.

526
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: It was during the global pandemic, you know what I'm saying.

527
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: And and and you know.

528
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 4: Tragically lost our actor, uh rest peace. So I had

529
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: to have to refigure that out, you know what I'm saying,

530
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: and keep it together with everybody who was who was

531
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: involved still want to still want to make something and

532
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 4: our lead actress, Lovely letch Wright was was injured on set.

533
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 4: Had to have to shut down for that am Cron

534
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 4: shuts down and and you know, and in Atlanta ended

535
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 4: up being like a four year movie.

536
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 6: Bro.

537
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

538
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: And and I remember we was going through maybe the

539
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: worst of you man, and and and what would get

540
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 1: me through?

541
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. While I was out there,

542
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 4: was listening to was listening to some of my favorite artists, Bro.

543
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 4: And I was listening to a lot of nip Rest

544
00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: and Peace. I was listened to a lot of golf right. Look, look,

545
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 4: but when I was listening to dol Bro, it wasn't

546
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: a resting piece yet. Bro wasn't resting piece yet. And

547
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 4: and I'll never forget Bro.

548
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: I think it was.

549
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 4: I think it was November seventeenth, twenty twenty one. I'm

550
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 4: in Byron, Georgia. Bro and I see my first cotton

551
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 4: field in my life. We were riding and.

552
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: I and I saw it. I taught the driver man't

553
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: pull over. You know what I'm saying, bounced talk. I

554
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: never I had never seen one before. You know, you know,

555
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: driver White, No, he's not.

556
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: He probably was like finally trying to get them back here, Bro, who's.

557
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 1: Our driver name?

558
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: Baby h Craig.

559
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was shouts off the craig Man. Black

560
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 4: Man from Cradle from New York. You're create from Okay,

561
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 4: black Man from New York. But she was in We was,

562
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: you know, walking out of Atlanta right like verybody was

563
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 4: making the movies Dan Bow, Bro, and.

564
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: I go, I go. I literally like when I went

565
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: into the field just to see it, Bro, I was

566
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: having like a crazy ash you know, you know what

567
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

568
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: Moment was like like what that felt like? I keep it, honey,

569
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 4: but I couldn't. I couldn't describe it. I couldn't describe it, Bro,

570
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: because like I felt guilty. I felt like, you know,

571
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 4: I've been on this show. We talking about going to Africa,

572
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And I wanted to get

573
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: type deal with my ancestors and and and and but

574
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 4: then was my ancestors one hundred years we moved. This

575
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 4: is my ancestors, Howndrey.

576
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: Years you moved?

577
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: Hadn't hadn't been there, hadn't seen it, you know, you

578
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: know you know what I'm saying. So it was it

579
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: was like an overwoman since a guilt where when where

580
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: anything right, And uh I took something, you know, and

581
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 4: uh I believe that day when when I heard he

582
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 4: was right, you know, and I and I.

583
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: Was I had never met this dude. I never met Nick,

584
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

585
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: But but but I felt like but I felt like

586
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: I knew him, you know, you know what I'm saying,

587
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: like from from from the music and and I remember

588
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 4: being like, man, fuck this, like because because you gotta

589
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 4: keep in mind, I was in the Bay, Bro, going

590
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: to football practice with my homies.

591
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: We heard pop God and we were sea pot you know.

592
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: You know you know what I'm saying, Like it shut

593
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: the whole It shot our whole football practice down. The

594
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 4: mamas was crying, the cultures was crying, and I'm like,

595
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro as a fan of his music, Bro, Bro,

596
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 4: it's been a lifetime and this ship Bro. Like like

597
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: like being in being in Philly on Creed and hearing

598
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 4: that that that the jack or reustion piece got killed.

599
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, that keep the sneak got

600
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 4: shot in the back.

601
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: He paralyzed.

602
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: Now like I'm like, you know, my hummies out that

603
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: that came up and was rapping. He never heard of

604
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 4: you Feel Me that that, And I'm like, I'm like, Bro,

605
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 4: I can't listen to this music right now, Bro, I can't.

606
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: I gotta take a break. You feel Me?

607
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 4: And I remember venting to my producer, who is from

608
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: into California, from close black man, but from a different

609
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: culture there, and and I say, man, I said, Bro,

610
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: what kind of music is here?

611
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: Bro?

612
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: Where the artist talks about how to navigate where they're from,

613
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: how to escape all the demons they dealing with.

614
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: Man, Like she get to the thirties and still fall

615
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: victim to the ship? Bro, what music exists like this?

616
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: I was.

617
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 4: I was saying that, like like he looked at me.

618
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: He's a smart dude, Moore. He looked at me Bro,

619
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 4: and like and like in a real empathetic way. It

620
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 4: conshittered it and he was like, he's like, man, my

621
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: favorite music like that.

622
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: I said, what music is that? He said, Man, grunge music.

623
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: I said, huh m hm. He said yeah, man, he's

624
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: like he said, we just lost Chris Cornell Bright. He

625
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: was in his fifties.

626
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like, he's like, all that music is

627
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 4: about struggling with you know what I'm saying, struggling with

628
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: that demon's depression and trying and kick dope, you know

629
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 4: what I mean. And they end up, you know, they

630
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: get get all the money in the world, standing up

631
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: dying in the hotel rooms.

632
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: You know.

633
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: I said, ship, damn, you know.

634
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 4: And what's crazy is in the Bay our biggest radio

635
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: station when I point when came here, and the only

636
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: rock song I ever played on that station Bro coming

637
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: up with Nirvana with smell like teen Spirit.

638
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: So I was like, Man, let me dig into this

639
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: grunge music.

640
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna take a break from you know what

641
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: I'm saying, from listen to gruns And I started listening

642
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: to it, Bro, and I was like, Man, this.

643
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: Ship something like with my uncle used to play like

644
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: I was. I was listening to like it's literally like

645
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm listening to it.

646
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: I'm listening to the guitar ribs and like what they're

647
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: talking about and and like like the passionate seeing with

648
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's all man, I thunk into the research, man,

649
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what it is.

650
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

651
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: It's just it's just it's just blues me to some

652
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: of my white people, you know. You know what I'm saying,

653
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: and that was that was when I was like, and

654
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: it's just it's just like within it same twenty four hours,

655
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: you know. You know what I'm saying that was That

656
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 4: was was that's I was like Sherry cropping blues, the

657
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: evolution of it, the h the racious origins of genre

658
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 4: as a concept, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm like,

659
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 4: I think it's a movie in this, you know. And

660
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 4: and I'm just a big horror movie fan, bro, I like,

661
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: I like, I like horror and all this fashions, and

662
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 4: nobody really knew that about me, you know what I'm saying,

663
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 4: because of the movies that I that I made, So

664
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: I put that with it too, and and you know,

665
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 4: this is this is how you got how you got shinish.

666
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: Just that makes sense.

667
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 5: I want to say rest in peace to it because

668
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 5: we just, uh, it was the six y anniversary of

669
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 5: his pasting like last week, and I also want to

670
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 5: say rest in peace to Dove.

671
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: It's something going on with Dolph Energetically.

672
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: I don't know what it is, because I've been listening

673
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 5: to Young Dolph a lot in the past forty eight hours. Yeah,

674
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 5: I've been saying and am I missed off? And I've

675
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 5: been telling my my wife and my my my cousin,

676
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: who's my trainer?

677
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, y'all want some new Dolph music.

678
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 5: And I don't know why I've been saying at the

679
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 5: last for I can show you my playlist, show you

680
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: how much doff I show.

681
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: You the last forty eight hours.

682
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: So now he got me through reping. People look Bro

683
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: like Nick, I.

684
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: Just I just talked. I just talked to I'll just talk.

685
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: I just talked to black Sham the other day. But

686
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: with Nick Nick reshing peace bro Hen me and me

687
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 4: and my wife was going through a tough time. Bro

688
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: when we released Panther one, and like the whole, the whole,

689
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: it was a really it was really uh odd experience

690
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: because because from the we was on top. It was

691
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: on top of the world, right and we was in

692
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: a certain extent, but but personally was going through some

693
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: ship and and Bro never I'll never forget Bro. Ship

694
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: was so heavy that that that that you know we

695
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: normally you know, the Bay, the Bay of l a

696
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: like a like a you know our flight, you feel me.

697
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: But I was like I was like, man, let's rent

698
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: a car and let's drive up to the Highway one

699
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: because our whole lives we're hearing about how beautiful.

700
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Highway one is.

701
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: So let's rent a cars drive up Highway one. She

702
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: just coached everybody been talking about our whole lots.

703
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: You feel me? And she was like, she was like,

704
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: all right, bet we put all finished. The movie went

705
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: to a.

706
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: Wrinkling time screening, because that's our that's our sister, you

707
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: feel me knocked out all and he was like, let's

708
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: get back to the crib. So up the coach, bro

709
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: Man Victory lave all ride whole ride turned.

710
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: Off, and spend it back right. And and I always

711
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: associate him with the feeling of healing. That album.

712
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: That album brought us in that time, you know, you

713
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And and and my association with

714
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: him was one of my best friends was down from from.

715
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: He did.

716
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: He did it rough for ten years, but he went

717
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: in when I was in when I was when I

718
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: was in film school. Came out the year the year

719
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: Black Panther came out, you know what I'm saying.

720
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: And I'll stay tapped in with him, you know, money

721
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: on his books, you know, And they would transfram all

722
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: over all over the country.

723
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

724
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 4: Every time you're transferighting, bro, he was like, need all

725
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: my NIP albums, Bro, I need I need, I need

726
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: them more. So I got to I have to rebind Marathon.

727
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: I have to find him and I got and I

728
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: gotta find it on the uh you know, on the

729
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: prison system.

730
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I'm saying. And and you

731
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: know Nick got him through, you know his incarceration. You

732
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: feel me so yeah, bro, like when when when when.

733
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: You know?

734
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: And when you listen to somebody you feel like you

735
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: know them. Bro.

736
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: You know it's just a different type of y'all do

737
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: radio right, People probably listening y'all every morning, think y'all

738
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: their best friends.

739
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: You know. You know what I'm saying.

740
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: It's that it's that type of uh, it's that type

741
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: of get Dawn man. And and I showed the movie

742
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: to another to another filmmaker, mohammikal Matic.

743
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: Who's from l A.

744
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: You know that did the host Party film and did

745
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: the White Man Can't Jump sequel, and and amazine music

746
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: video director just did the just did the uh scrabble

747
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: up video right shouting centers.

748
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: First thing you say to me, man, seeing.

749
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: Them two dudes that it felt like it felt like

750
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: it felt like nip and sham, you know what I'm saying.

751
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: And I wasn't.

752
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't even thinking about I wasn't even thinking about

753
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: the fact that these two you know what I'm saying,

754
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: he's the too brothers, Like we're gonna get it, you know,

755
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like like when you said

756
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: that to me, Bro, that ship hit me on a

757
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: different you know, on a different level. I was like, Okay, Yeah,

758
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: I'm okay. Maybe my my cinematic language is getting to

759
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: it's getting to where it needs to be because because

760
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: I'm putting things and I'm feeling I'm maybe not even thinking.

761
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: About you know, you know what I'm saying.

762
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 5: And that's crazy cause when they talk about centers, they

763
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 5: talk about how your your genre blending right, drama, you

764
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 5: gotta put hip hop in there too.

765
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: All it's all over there the movie.

766
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 6: I feel like even in the way that the smoke

767
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 6: and his smoking, his brother shack Stack smoking Sack, even

768
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 6: the way that they like maneuver and the way that

769
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 6: they move, like even it's small stuff in there and

770
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 6: you I'm here, you say that it wasn't purposely, I guess,

771
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 6: but even the way he pulls out his gun and

772
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 6: stuff like that, it's like it's so much to it.

773
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 6: And when when I was watching the parts that I

774
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 6: did see of it, I was just seeing her thinking

775
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 6: like wow, Like I wonder how many times you sit

776
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 6: and watch it and you catch something different every single

777
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 6: time because it's like layered, and I think some of

778
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 6: it is not on purpose, Like does that happen to you?

779
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: Still? Yeah?

780
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I oftentimes catch things with this movie, especially because

781
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: it was so personal, you know what I'm saying. And

782
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: I've become a more experienced filmmaker, you know, you know

783
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: what I mean, And I'll be like, oh, I was

784
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: doing that and I ain't you know, I ain't realizing.

785
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: And the other thing that happens man when you when

786
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: you work on on uh, because our our r form

787
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: is is it's a tricky one, right, like you know.

788
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: For instance, the young great legend Rod Wave watched the

789
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: movie and then went knocked out a song for us

790
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: in the day inspired about inspired a byt the film,

791
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: and Ship is a song. I'm like, yo, this sh

792
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: is done? You know you know what I'm saying, Like,

793
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: like you know, like there's nothing we can nothing else

794
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: we can do do fis we can't touch it took him,

795
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: took him a night, you know, but we're working the years,

796
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: right And what's what's crazy is you know you're not

797
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: even the same person in four.

798
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: Months, you know what I'm saying.

799
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: Like I've written the screenplay and then got to like

800
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: the last day of shooting, and I'm looking at the

801
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: strip like what the fuck was I Like?

802
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: Who wrote this? You know what I'm saying.

803
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 4: Often I often say that, like what was I thinking?

804
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: You know, you know, and and and and I'm trying

805
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: to get back into my own head from from you

806
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, from from time past, and you know,

807
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: you know, you're editing the film and mixing it sound,

808
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: and sometimes I'll be like, oh, that's what I meant,

809
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: you know, you know you know what I'm saying, Like

810
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: that's what this is.

811
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: You feel me? But yeah, I still I still I

812
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: still see things, man.

813
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: And because it's not because it's and it wasn't based

814
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: on anything like direct so I was so you pull

815
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 4: from yourself, you know, you know what I'm saying.

816
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: So I see a lot of a lot of myself.

817
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 6: And I had to google that when I was watching it,

818
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 6: like is this based on the true story?

819
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Because it so?

820
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 6: But you the opening scene too, it's the center of

821
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 6: the opening scene is the black church. Yeah, and it

822
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 6: was such a powerful scene and then you backtrack into

823
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 6: like a completely different version of that character. Can you

824
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 6: talk about the choice too. I don't want to give

825
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 6: it away, but like I thought that that was like

826
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 6: really powerful the way.

827
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: That you did talk about that easy work. Yeah, yeah.

828
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: So when I was doing I did a lot of

829
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: research on the on the movie. The two the two

830
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: like the big work research workhorses for me were two books,

831
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 4: uh le, Roy Jones' Blues People l Roy Jones letter

832
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: changed his name to Mary Baraka. But when you find

833
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: that when you looking for that text, it'll be because

834
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: we published it with Roy Jones.

835
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: It will generally be publishing that. That's a black man,

836
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: Black and alect.

837
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 4: You were talking about the blues culture and then and

838
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 4: then there's another book called Deep Blues by by a

839
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: music collegist named Robert Palmer.

840
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: The white Dude. You know what I'm saying, talking talking.

841
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 4: About talking about blues music, about the incredible books.

842
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Man.

843
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 4: But but in researching all those books and learning about

844
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 4: the great Delta blues musicians, you know. And it started

845
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 4: with a guy named Charlie Patton essentially, and it started

846
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: on the Doctor Doctory Farms plantation in Mississippi, is you know,

847
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: is where I kind of where they feel like the

848
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: first true Delta blues song as.

849
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: His norm was played right. Uh.

850
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 4: But in his in his lineage, there there comes Tommy Johnson,

851
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: who was the first dude to run around say he

852
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: saw the song to the Devil to learn how to play.

853
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: You know.

854
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: It was Robert Johnson who is the more known dudes

855
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: to to kind of say he saw the song to

856
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: the Devil to play. Yeah, yeah.

857
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: And in between there is a dude named Son House

858
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: who essentially outlived all those guys. And what you learn

859
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 4: is almost every single last one of these dudes not

860
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 4: only came out of the church, but like Daddy's was preachers.

861
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: It was like almost it was like almost constant, you

862
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

863
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 4: And and and what I realized is I'm like, oh,

864
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: like the the that that like the African Orator, you know,

865
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like like that's a that's

866
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: a that's a long line from the from the from

867
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: the from the Griot. You know what I'm saying to

868
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: to you know, to Rod Wave today, you know, you know,

869
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And like that, it's all

870
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 4: versions of the same thing. The Preacher at the Poor Pick,

871
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

872
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: You know the musicality of of the Black Preacher, you know,

873
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: most known, most known with Martin Luther King Junior. Right,

874
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like like you know,

875
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: the you know, you know what I'm saying, like like

876
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: the animation you feel me like that.

877
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: That's all from the continent, but it was deeply it

878
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: was deeply refined in the in the you know what

879
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: I'm saying, in the American South, you know what I mean.

880
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: And you know, the best blues musicians basically came out

881
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: of it, came out of the church, and the blues

882
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 4: was known as the Devil's music.

883
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

884
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: It was It was a huge economy, like like, you know,

885
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of anxiety and judgement out

886
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 4: of that, and a lot of guilt, you know what

887
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like, dudes, would be huge substance a musics

888
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 4: and house will basically go like he'll he'll basically go

889
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 4: like five years drinking and playing blues music, five years

890
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: sober and preaching, five years drinking and playing blues music,

891
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: ten years sober.

892
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: Now he got his own church. You know. You know

893
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying it was. It was that kind of cycle.

894
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: So that's that's why we started it like that.

895
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 5: You know, they said you got to go ahead nine

896
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 5: to fifty. But I got three questions. I gotta got

897
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 5: like two minutes. Different energy brings different things out of pe.

898
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 5: What did Chad Wick Bothman bring out of you that

899
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 5: Michael B.

900
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: Jordan does?

901
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: Man?

902
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: So, so that's a fucking fantastic question, Bro, It's a

903
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 4: fantastic question because I just had to doing his press tour.

904
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: You know, because because out.

905
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: Of all of my actors, Bro, and all of my actors,

906
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: Chad's death actually hit Mike the hardest, you know, and

907
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 4: and I and I I never had to talk about that,

908
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: but we were doing we were doing press together now

909
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: and look, man, Chad was older than us, Bro, Like, like,

910
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: he was quite a bit older than us, even though

911
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 4: he looked like he was the same.

912
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: As he was not.

913
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying I was a fully baked man

914
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: from the South. You know, you know what I'm saying.

915
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: Like he was an old school he was an old

916
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: school man's man. And and compared to that dude when

917
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: we worked together, brought me and Michael's kids.

918
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I'm saying. And and and

919
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: what Chad taught me, Bro, I mean he changed my life. Bro,

920
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But but but he was.

921
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: He was the kind of teacher who you never knew

922
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: you was getting a lession when he talked. You know,

923
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was it was all.

924
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: It was all by all by.

925
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: Example, you know, you know what I'm saying.

926
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: And what he what he what he gave me. And

927
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: Michael was patience. You know, he moved he moved out

928
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 4: an old school pace and and and he he he

929
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: took his time.

930
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: He was always early. You know what I'm saying.

931
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: He was that type of He was that type of dude. Bro,

932
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And and and and I

933
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: think that you know, I don't think Mike. I don't

934
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: think Michael would be it. Look, man, I taught him

935
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: like and Michael, tell you is I told him, Man,

936
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 4: I said, hey, Bro, what would child do you know

937
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 4: what I'm saying in this role, if you had this role,

938
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: what do you do?

939
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: You know?

940
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: Because Chad never broke accent. You know what I'm saying.

941
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 4: He was talking in an African accent. Bro, you put

942
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: me for dinner at nine o'clock. I remember the Disney

943
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: executives came, came and seen as a panther like week

944
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: two and he put it up and it was it

945
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: was it was a child's accent.

946
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: What was going on?

947
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: That was freaked out? And I was like, gonna be

948
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: free thought. He's working And that's how you don't turn

949
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: it off to we rat you know.

950
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and and and and no

951
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: shame or embarrassment and that. But that's how he was.

952
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: That's how he was moving, you know, you know what

953
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

954
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 4: And and for Mike to see that, to see that

955
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 4: up close, to have to do scenes across from that,

956
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: and for me to be able to set that to him,

957
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like like like that that

958
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: he transitioned to become an ancestor.

959
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Bro, what what what the big homie? Do?

960
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: You know?

961
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like boom locked in you

962
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying and look bro, like like the

963
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: difference is, man, look man, won't ever be another child?

964
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: Bro?

965
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: You feel me like like that should I? That's the difference.

966
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 4: Like it's like asking somebody, bro, what was it like

967
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: to shut up across from from from Mike Jordan's you

968
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying?

969
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, like like you know it made you

970
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: a better hooper? I bet you know you know what

971
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like and you know, and that's what

972
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: it was, you know what I mean?

973
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: And we got no more. You know, they gotta go?

974
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah do you Hey? I don't know. I want to go.

975
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: You gotta come back right so much, so much.

976
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: Want something.

977
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: I just want something to sell and I want to

978
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 4: tell people because see the movie in theaters.

979
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

980
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess.

981
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 5: I stayed on chat just a little because I recently

982
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 5: saw a video with Denzel was speaking about his first time.

983
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: Seeing Black Panther. Yeah, he said he made him feel

984
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: like he could pass the torch because of you, because.

985
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: It was it was so much deeper than that. It

986
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 4: was so much deeper than Danzel I ever show. Because

987
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 4: he's humble looking man. Chiro was at Howard University, bro

988
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: and and he was maybe the most brilliant actor I

989
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: ever come through there Bro. If Felicia Shaw knew it,

990
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 4: he was there to be a filmmaker. If Felicier Shaw

991
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 4: wanted to see him where they where they you know,

992
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: where they really do it, it'll be the it'd be

993
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 4: the equivalent of a Hooper in and it's Victor women Yama.

994
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 4: Right you in Paris, Bro, We're finishing you to go

995
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 4: hoop of Lebron. We're finishing you to the station. You

996
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and go really eighty two game

997
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: season against where basketball is life. You know what I'm saying.

998
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 4: And in the UK acting his life, you know what

999
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying. That's where, that's where it's at. Right, Felicia

1000
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 4: was like, I want to get you to Oxford. I

1001
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: want to get you on stage in London. Shot from Anderson,

1002
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 4: South Carolina. Right, flis like, when I'm worry, I'm finding

1003
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 4: somebody to take care of you goes it in. Zelzel says,

1004
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: I want to I want to take care of it

1005
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: for the kid. I don't want I don't want them

1006
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 4: to know it's me and I don't want to know

1007
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 4: nothing about it.

1008
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

1009
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 4: Right, let's just said, hey, we got a donor for you.

1010
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: Says about to Oxford. He goes to shut the ship down,

1011
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: comes back to tatick balls.

1012
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: Right.

1013
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Later on his career, Felicia

1014
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: put him to this sigh. Ay man, I was in

1015
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: jail that pay for that. Wow. Wow. Chadwick seized the

1016
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: exailing passion for years and years and years and years

1017
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: and years.

1018
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: It's the patience I'm talking about. Knew it wasn't time

1019
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: to tell him yet, right.

1020
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Premiere in l A.

1021
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: Form here in New York. Then Jel said I can

1022
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: pull up. He was doing broad I think he was

1023
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: doing the Iceman coming up or something. He said, I

1024
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: can pull up. I said, all right, bet I teld

1025
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: my act. I said, Heydnzel coming to night try immediately

1026
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: put me to the side, said I gotta talk to

1027
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 4: him before before before they go in and watch. And

1028
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: I said, what's going on? He wisher in my ear,

1029
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: But I got I gotta thank you for something, you

1030
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So Danzel pull up?

1031
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: Man.

1032
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 4: He Denzel don't like to be He's not a Hollywood

1033
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 4: person crazy enough. He wanted to come into the back.

1034
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: He don't want to do the carpet, you know, I mean,

1035
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: dresses very down.

1036
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: And so I grabbed you. I said that somebody want

1037
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Put him to the side, and

1038
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: my wife was there. It was, it was, it was,

1039
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: it was.

1040
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: It was me, Zenji and dan Zel and chat in

1041
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: the room and in the DJ Theater in New York,

1042
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: right here in Manhattan.

1043
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: And then heell pull up. I was like, hey, man,

1044
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: what's going on?

1045
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: You know in chat chat whispering his fucking ears ship.

1046
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: But that was me and thank him right, That's why

1047
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: Jel was crying, you know what I'm saying when he

1048
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 4: watched the movie like it was because of that.

1049
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: And for me, I I don't think it's gonna drop.

1050
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I think I got it. You got it. So that's

1051
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: the look. Man. Do you know how many actors bro

1052
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: as soon.

1053
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 4: As they would have gone on they would have went

1054
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 4: on the show and said, yeah, man, Denzel paid for

1055
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: me to go to Oxford.

1056
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: Do you know how many articles they would have got

1057
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: out of that M forty two press Round'm Jackie Robinson.

1058
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, By the way, Danzel paid for me

1059
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: to it's real.

1060
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: That's why, that's why it's almost impossible for you to

1061
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 5: even think about recasting a job.

1062
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: It's not it's not, it's not. I mean, it's it's

1063
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: but with the multiverse, it makes it a little I mean,

1064
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: we talk, we talk, we talk about that.

1065
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 5: Next we can ask one more question about SIS and

1066
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 5: it's really about Mike, because the relationship you and Mike have,

1067
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 5: I think does not get enough credit. I really don't

1068
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 5: like y'all are unity and group operation per signified. Y'all

1069
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 5: have a symbiotic relationship or did it was it? Was

1070
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 5: it a media or the developable?

1071
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: It developed? Bro Like like I like in it too.

1072
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: I liking it to.

1073
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 4: A quarterback and and uh, you know in a white out,

1074
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I play I play

1075
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: receiver in uh in college football. And it's like that,

1076
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: like it gets to the point where you know, we

1077
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: got a shorthand and we hold each other accountable. We

1078
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 4: also push each other like we're not trying to do

1079
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: the same thing we did before. You know what I mean,

1080
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: We're not gonna show up and and go through the motions.

1081
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: We're trying to shove up and and and get bigger

1082
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: and better each time. But the thing about but brother,

1083
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: keeping the honey man. The thing I love the most

1084
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 4: about Mike is his kindness, bro like like like he's

1085
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: he's a he's a number one on the car. She

1086
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 4: big old, giant, fucking movie star. He's incredibly kind to

1087
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: everybody on set.

1088
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Focused nose the AD's name, nose the p a's name,

1089
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: don't come on the set. They don't look me in

1090
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Speaker 1: the eye. You know what I'm saying, Never raise a

1091
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: good woice anybody, you know, you know what I mean.

1092
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Speaker 4: And he works his ass off, so it sets a

1093
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: tone for everybody that you're gonna be respectful, respectful to

1094
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 4: the to the p A up top, to the producer.

1095
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna respect women, you know what I'm saying, Like

1096
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna're gonna be gonna be kind. You know,

1097
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: we're not gonna you know, because a film second get

1098
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 4: can get gnarly, you know what I mean, if if

1099
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 4: you don't, you know, if you don't set the right

1100
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 4: tone right.

1101
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: So so for me, I'm always he always gonna have

1102
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: a job before making something. He a good person.

1103
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: Even when you see him in his element, he'll take

1104
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: pictures with kids. He'll stop to take pictures to speak

1105
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 3: to older people, especially when your jerseys.

1106
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: It's ten times work.

1107
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna be all in York tonight for a screen.

1108
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he's like really like that.

1109
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: He just don't like.

1110
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 3: But besides that, Charlomon always messing him about the type

1111
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: of woman he liked.

1112
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: That man, but.

1113
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 6: Nice of emotion and and here you come.

1114
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: So he's a good elements.

1115
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: I just messed with him a couple of times about

1116
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 5: the white woman he was dating. I'll stay away from

1117
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 5: that crazy man. Don't let doctor him all down. That's

1118
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 5: all nothing crazy.

1119
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: But now he's a good.

1120
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: I promise you won't last three times ago.

1121
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 5: How do you accept an apology from thenzel Watt because

1122
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 5: he said he apologize.

1123
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: To you like you. That's that's the that's the old

1124
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: g Like do you even accept like no, he did

1125
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: even get mad at him.

1126
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 4: No man, no man, i I'm I'm I'm blessed to

1127
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 4: have you in my life, bro, like straight up man,

1128
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 4: and I'm blessed through through having him.

1129
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: I get Paul Letter. He was a bigger blessing. You

1130
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just just seen last night. Yeah, man,

1131
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: he apology, Bro, him saying that we're gonna work together,

1132
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: apologize for that.

1133
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what when he calls you.

1134
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: He was just like he was. He was more than

1135
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: more than he was. Like, hey, Bro, I say too much,

1136
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: like it wasn't all it wasn't you know, I say

1137
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: too much. Man, I ain't mean to make your heart.

1138
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're good, You're good. You always happy to

1139
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 4: hear from you. Man, you FaceTime me in the whole hype,

1140
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like like, but it's just

1141
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: just I'm blessed, bro, to be able to to be

1142
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: able to you know, to have these these these mentors, bro,

1143
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 4: Like like I feel like God looks after me, Bro.

1144
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: And when I lose when I gained one, you know,

1145
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you know I started

1146
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: talking about this losing my uncle, right, you know what

1147
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And I'm all this or three brothers. I've

1148
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 4: been looking for big brothers my whole life, you know

1149
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And when I gain you know what

1150
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: I mean, like like people who can who can give

1151
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 4: me any type of mentorship or advice, and you know

1152
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 4: it's the most incredible blessing.

1153
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: So you know, you know, you know, you know, apologies man.

1154
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 4: And I think one of the eight things he just

1155
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: he just wanted to make sure that he ain't speak

1156
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 4: out of school with how intense all of the all

1157
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 4: of the comic book stuff can get.

1158
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, We need you, right, I mean,

1159
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 5: you know the way they're trying to erase our history

1160
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 5: out here. We need brothers like you that represent you know,

1161
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 5: Black culture.

1162
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: I need y'all rock I need y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all

1163
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 4: work ethic, in the in the in the relationship y'all

1164
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: have and built up with the audiences. You know what

1165
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying, the trust, So I can tell him, Go

1166
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 4: see Centers that's April eighteen. Go see the I Max

1167
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 4: because that's how we shot it on film and big

1168
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 4: giant Imax cameras and super wide uh ultra panevision seventy

1169
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 4: millimeters for the first time, you know, and you're gonna see,

1170
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 4: you know, see people are all shy and colors on

1171
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 4: on the on the screen on the movie a roller

1172
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 4: culture ride, U probablys like a rock con shart, you

1173
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And because of the work that y'all.

1174
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 4: Do you feel me, we able to, we able to

1175
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 4: come and tell people about you know what we are

1176
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 4: going on.

1177
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: Man, we need each other, you feel me?

1178
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1179
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely go check it out.

1180
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Speaker 3: April eighteenth, Sinners, ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Coopler, thank you

1181
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: for joining us, and thank you all, bro and don't

1182
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 3: be a stranger you in town, come.

1183
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: On up here, bet it up, all right, that's the

1184
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.

1185
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club