1 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Doctor Jill's work husband had to testify behind closed doors. 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: What did he say or what did he not say? Also, 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: the Varsity Blues guy that was bribing people's kids into 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: college has a new business pretty much doing the exact 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: same thing, at least as far as I can tell. 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: And Mam Danny the possible hopefully not Mayor of New 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: York in the future, well, his dad wrote a really 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: interesting book and in that book, really interesting excerpt. We'll 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: tell you about that and so much more here on 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: Turning Point tonight. Together we are charting the course of 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: America's cultural comeback. This is turning Point tonight. And before 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: we get to that, in our fantastic panel. Now, this 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: is not a new concept, but there was a really 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: really interesting piece in the Washington Post about immigrants. Now, 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: they don't delineate between illegal and legal, which I love 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: to do, but this is not that particular. We're not 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: really talking about that right now. But people who come 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: into the country, foreigners who now live here legally or 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: otherwise sending money back home to their countries of origin. Now, 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: this is a thing. We've all known that this happens, 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: but the rate that it's happening is increasing, and it's 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: increasing rapidly from January to March relative to equivalent periods 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: of time in other years. Remittance to El Salvador shot 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,639 Speaker 1: up fourteen percent, remittance to Honduras went up twenty percent, 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: and Guatemala twenty one percent. In other words, in this 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: brief time period, especially since President Trump took office, more 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: and more people from other countries are sending their money 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: back to those other countries. And what's even more fascinating 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: about that? And again I wish, or at least I 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: hope someone digs into are we talking about legal or 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: illegal or what are we talking about here? But just overall, 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 1: what is even more fascinating is this statistics. Immigrant cash 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: transfers rose from ten percent of the Central American regions 34 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: GDP in twenty ten. In other words, thirteen percent of 35 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: the entire GDP of the region in twenty ten was 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: American money going there. It rose from ten percent in 37 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty ten to twenty three percent last year. In 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: other words, it doubled over fifteen years. And we're not 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: talking about, oh, the amount of money, the percentage of money. 40 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: We're talking about the overall GDP. In other words, a 41 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: fifth of the entire economy of Central America is money 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: from here to there. Whether or not that's a good 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: idea remains to be seen. I tend to say no, 44 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: and I especially want to figure out if we're talking 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: how what percentage of this is illegals sending money abroad 46 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: back to where they came from. Wow, here to talk 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: about that and so much more. As political commentary commentator 48 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: Lily Kate and senior fellow at the American Principles Project 49 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: Paula Scanlon, Guys, thank you so much for joining. 50 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Lily. 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: I'll start with you here. 52 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: What is going on, especially why the uptick do you 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: think in recent months of people saying, oh shoot, I 54 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: gotta send more money back home? And again, we can 55 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: probably leave the overall conversation of whether or not they 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: should happen. It does happen, regardless of what you think 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: about it. It does happen. But why is there this drastic increase. 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's one word. It's Trump. 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 5: Because immigrants are not coming into the country anymore to 60 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 5: seek economic opportunity. So therefore they have to resort to, 61 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 5: if they're already here, make as much money as they 62 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: can and send it back to their families. Most illegal 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: immigrants around the world and the ones who have come 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 5: here all believe that America is simply just their own 65 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: cash cow that they can come and just. 66 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: Suck it dry from all the money and all the 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: cash that. 68 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 5: It has because the US dollar is so dominant on 69 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 5: the world stage. 70 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: And now they have a choice. 71 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: They can either go back or wait till Ice supports them, 72 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: or start sending money back. And think a lot of 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: them are choosing to send money back to their families 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: because that's the only thing they want to do is 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 5: suck America drive while it's cash. 76 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: Paula. This the statistic that the end blew my mind. 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: A fifth of the entire regions GDP in Central America 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: is from cash going out of the United States and 79 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: to there. And that's not the only case, right There 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: are tons of countries around the world where a huge 81 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: proportion of their GDP is made up of cash sent 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: from the United States back there. How many countries around 83 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: the world do we support in this way, not including 84 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: money that they were getting through usaid, money that they 85 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: were getting in terms of foreign assistance, Like, are we 86 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: just like so big and powerful that every single country 87 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: in the world depends on us. 88 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: No, exactly that I mean. 89 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 6: I think I've heard stories of immigrants that come to 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 6: this country and they are funding their entire family. 91 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: And it's not just their immediate family. 92 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 6: They're funding like their distant cousins and relatives from their 93 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 6: American salary, doing every job here, taking as much money 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 6: as they can, take as many jobs, hitting as many 95 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 6: free handouts as they can in this country. And that 96 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 6: is a common thing that we see from immigrants, not 97 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 6: even just from Central America, but I think from all 98 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 6: over this is a very common thing. 99 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: I hear in Asia. 100 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 6: I mean I had a family that immigrated here from 101 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 6: Asia as well, and a lot of them, Yeah, they work, 102 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 6: came over and they were sending their salaries over because 103 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 6: the place that gives them the most money is this country. 104 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 6: And I think what it shows and the one thing 105 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 6: I will say about this, yeah, probably shouldn't be happening. 106 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 6: We need to think about our citizens first. But what 107 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 6: I will say is America is a great country. And 108 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 6: any leftist that wants to say that we're discussing horrible 109 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 6: country and they don't want to be here, there are 110 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 6: quite literally billions of people that want to live in 111 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 6: this country and the opportunities that we have here, and 112 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 6: I think that that is forgotten, and I think that 113 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 6: just proves. 114 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: Exactly that, Yeah, this country is so bad and awful 115 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: and terrible that everyone around the world wants to come 116 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: here and work so that they can be able to 117 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: send money home. You know, this is actually this one's 118 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: kind of touchy, right. We all witnessed the horrible fires 119 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: in California, specifically in the Palisades, and everybody, everybody is 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: horrified by that. It's a terrible, tragic situation. I am 121 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: not generally speaking of the conspiratorial type which said what 122 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: start of the fires? 123 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: All this. 124 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 1: I think it's just bad governance of like forest management, 125 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: water supply, a bunch of that sort of stuff. But 126 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: you know that meme that so many people send around, 127 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: it's like Bart Simpson and then he says. 128 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: Like, what an odd thing to say? 129 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: This is another one of those situations in California, Lily, 130 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: this is what an odd thing to do. California is 131 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: seeking to establish a Resilient Rebuilding Authority for the Los 132 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: Angeles wildfires, which are set to coordinate and streamline the 133 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: process of rebuilding. The problem is, or the very fishy 134 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: thing is the powers that the state is trying to 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: give this county, Los Angeles County authority is to purchase 136 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: property and facilitate redevelopment and including through eminent domain, in 137 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: other words, the county eminent domain. People who don't know 138 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: about this can say this, US taking this land for 139 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: the greater good is what's going to happen, and that's 140 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna basically commandeer it. Lily Again, I don't think 141 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: the government had any role in starting the fires or 142 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: perpetuating them. I don't think that's true mismanagement and government, different, 143 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: different story. Why would they be doing this specifically and 144 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: kind of almost threatening that the county takes money, takes 145 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,559 Speaker 1: land through eminent domain, which a lot of people aren't 146 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: a fan of. 147 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a really fishy situation. Gets you asking a 148 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 5: lot of questions. I know, California, obviously they have tremendous 149 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 5: amounts of mismanagement, and I think probably how they've divvied 150 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 5: up land, or how much they've sold, or if they've oversold, 151 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 5: or if they're trying to add more like Section eight 152 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 5: housing right with these potential seizures, right, it's just another 153 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 5: example of how mismanaged and ignorance and someone being terrible 154 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: at their job creates more problems. And so not only 155 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: are you having a land that is like completely burnt 156 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: to a crisp because of these fires, and the government 157 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: is coming in and saying, hey, you know, we could 158 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 5: actually use this for something a little bit more interesting, 159 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 5: a little bit more, a little bit better. 160 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: For you guys. 161 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 5: And I don't think Californian should have any reason to 162 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 5: trust their government. I'm hoping this piece of active legislation 163 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 5: doesn't completely make it through because why is the government 164 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 5: getting more involved and they've proven that they mismanage every 165 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 5: single little thing, and citizens should be able to stand 166 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: up against their government and say, you know what, not 167 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 5: because of you guys that did this burn down, but 168 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 5: the burning got worse because you didn't know how to 169 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 5: handle it. Why should I trust you with this land 170 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: that you're potentially going to seize from me. 171 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense. 172 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 5: Makes you ask a ton of questions, But I'm with you, 173 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: not going to assume anything here, but mismanagement leads to 174 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 5: lots and lots of problems. 175 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paula, to kind of follow up on something that 176 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: Lily said, this is really interesting too. The Resilient Rebuilding 177 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Authority would authorize financing acquisition of different properties with a 178 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: mandate to spend at least forty percent on low income housing, 179 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: which means you're sixty percent below the threshold. This is 180 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: some of the most popular, most expensive real estate, not 181 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: only in California, not only in the country, but on 182 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: planet Earth, and forty percent of it could, in theory 183 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: go to low income housing. Again, what a weird thing 184 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: to do. 185 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: You know. 186 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 6: Leftists just want to own everything. I mean, I live 187 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 6: in New York City. We talk about Mondamia a lot. 188 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: He wants state run grocery stores. The government just wants 189 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: to own all your land. 190 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 7: They don't like. 191 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 4: People having private property. They don't like homeowners. 192 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 6: They don't want individuals making decisions for themselves. They think 193 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 6: that as money. They tax the people in California already 194 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 6: so much, and they take at tax para money and 195 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: don't do anything useful with it whatsoever. And then they 196 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 6: want to take their homes away too, and then put 197 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 6: in again, yes, public housing probably. I mean, I don't 198 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 6: know what they're going to do with the land, but 199 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 6: all I know is that it's better in the hands 200 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 6: of those private owners doing what it is with the 201 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 6: property they worked hard to purchase, and it says, well, 202 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 6: you know what, now you had a terrible situation. We're 203 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 6: just gonna take it away and we're gonna do whatever 204 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 6: we want with it. And that's not my problem. And 205 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 6: shame on the government of California. I mean, I think 206 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 6: that they've shown us time and time again. 207 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I know you. 208 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 6: Live in California and Joe, Bob, but we've seen a 209 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 6: lot of failures in their government and it's really just 210 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 6: sad to see the people that have already been hurt 211 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 6: so badly by these fires just having to deal with 212 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 6: this even more. 213 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 214 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: I again, we'll all find out together what actually ends 215 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: up happening here, but as of right now, what an 216 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: odd thing to do really quickly here before we have 217 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: to go to break Lily. Doctor Jill Biden's right hand man, 218 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: her work husband, was set to testify in front of 219 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: a closed door hearing trying to figure out the cover 220 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: up of the president's mental decline. He pleaded the fifth 221 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not talking. Does it say more than 222 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: what he said to not have said anything? I think 223 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: that makes sense. 224 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 5: I think if he would have just said, yeah, there 225 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 5: were signs of Joe Biden declining, and that's why we 226 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: took him out of the race. Nobody would bat an eye, 227 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 5: But the problem is they're so incriminated they don't know 228 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 5: what to say, and it looks terrible. Silence is always 229 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 5: worse when everybody has nine million questions about the situation, 230 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 5: and so him pleading the fifth definitely speaks volumes. 231 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: Yess. Yeah. 232 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: Paula Byron, Donnell's congressman, said this, if he wasn't in 233 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: charge of his administration, then every order, every bill that 234 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: was signed, every memorandum, as far as I'm concerned, are 235 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: null and void. If this commission finds that President Biden 236 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: was completely incoherent the entire time, I don't know what 237 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: are the legal ramifications of that when it comes to 238 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: all of the things that he put in place and signed, 239 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: you know. 240 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 4: Exactly not. 241 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 6: I think we need to look into the entire Biden administration, 242 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 6: every executive order, every part in every single piece of legislation. 243 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: That was ever put on his desk. But the other 244 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: thing is all of these people pleading the fifth if 245 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: they do answer honestly, there's there's two categories. 246 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 6: First, they knew what was going on and they were 247 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 6: part of the cover up, or they're so stupid that 248 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 6: they were working for someone that was not even fully 249 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 6: they're not able to have conversations and they didn't know. 250 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: I mean, those are the two options, right, They either 251 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 4: didn't know or they were part of the cover up, and. 252 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 6: I think both make these people look equally bad. And 253 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 6: so again, I think that we're not talking about this enough. 254 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 6: No one's talked about how the Biden administration was just 255 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 6: hiding things from us. I still want to know who 256 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 6: was president, who was making the decisions to do everything 257 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 6: that happened in the four years of failure that they did. 258 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: We have no. 259 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 6: Answers on that, And again, I'm appreciative to the Republicans 260 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 6: that have been pushing back on this, but I want 261 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 6: more answers, and I won't be quiet about it until 262 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 6: we have them. 263 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. You've also echoed the never ending Joe 264 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Bob paradigm. Are they stupid or are they lying? One 265 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: of those two things have to be true, and I guess, well, 266 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll find out. Lily Paula will be back after 267 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: the break to discuss Mam Danny's dad Unearthed. He wrote 268 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: a book in two thousand and four. Stuff in that book. 269 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: Also the Varsity Blues Mastermind has a new gig. And 270 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: then after that, don't miss Tucker Carlson's extended conversation with 271 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: Alice Clark and the Culture Apothecary podcast. 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Tonight we're together. 282 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural Combany let's 283 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: check in with Turning Points White House Corresponding Monica page 284 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: at the White House. Monica like going on again as 285 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: there is every single day, big signing that President undertook today. 286 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Can you tell us about what he's what he's signing? 287 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 11: Yep, The President gathered with lawmakers in the East Room 288 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 11: and families of victims of those who have honestly been 289 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 11: either killed or seriously harmed from the effects of fentanyl. 290 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 11: He is signed the Halt Fentanyl Act, the ha LT 291 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 11: Halt All Lethal Trafficking that's what the HALT stands for 292 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 11: of Fentinal Act. And this is a very bipartisan bill. 293 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 11: We're glad that it passed that both the House and Senate. 294 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 11: So that's why the President will be meeting with lawmakers 295 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 11: on both sides of the aisle and also with the 296 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 11: families of those victims. This bill is going to close 297 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 11: those loopholes that criminals have you used to skirt the 298 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 11: system in traffic, being lethal amounts of pentanol and just 299 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 11: any sorts of sentinel to begin with, and any sort 300 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 11: of fentanyl like drug that doesn't have to be exactly 301 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 11: fentanyl will also be classified as a top tier level 302 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 11: most Dangerous drug on the Cessay. So definitely a very 303 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 11: good thing for keeping Americans say, a great thing for 304 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 11: keeping us even in our national security here in the 305 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 11: United States and moving forward. This is also going to 306 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 11: make law enforcement have an easier time prosecuting those criminals 307 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 11: who are feeling this fentanyl who are trafficking into our country. 308 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 11: I believe in twenty twenty three, more than seventy thousand 309 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 11: Americans were killed due to fentanyl. And even though that 310 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 11: was lowered around twenty twenty four, I think it's lowered 311 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 11: to about twenty seven percent, it's still maintains to be 312 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 11: a major issue here in the United States. 313 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I hope there also is a strong gaze 314 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: pointed in China's directions. China is really in a big 315 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: way participating in the opioids coming into the United States 316 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: so much as across the southern border. But again how 317 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: they're doing it, I hope that that becomes a priority, 318 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: especially again looking towards China. Let's see, there's also there's 319 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: something in the Big Beautiful Bill that you've been talking about. 320 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: Haven't seen much else talking about it, but it is 321 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: actually really interesting. Can you tell us about the Garden 322 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: of Heroes. 323 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's exactly right, Garden of Heroes. Forty million dollars 324 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 11: allocated to this new project thanks to the One Big 325 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 11: Beautiful Bill. And what this essentially does is honor the 326 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 11: heroes of our nation's history. So you're gonna have names 327 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 11: like maybe Aretha Franklin, Elvis Presley, Babe Ruth, George Washington, 328 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 11: George Washington, Carver MLK Junior, you name it. The President 329 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 11: back actually in twenty twenty one tried to get this 330 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 11: passed and had a list of about two hundred and 331 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 11: forty forty four names on this list, but unfortunately he 332 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 11: wasn't able to get a passed in time, and when 333 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 11: Joe Biden took the presidency, we quashed the project altogether. 334 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 11: So now as we approach the two hundred and fiftieth 335 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 11: Birthday of America, the President is kind of trying to 336 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 11: expedite this project restart, and right now he's kind of 337 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 11: looking to add to those two hundred and forty four 338 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 11: names and see if we can get two hundred and 339 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 11: fifty kind of lifelike statues looking towards Mount Russian War, 340 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 11: maybe in that sort of area at a federal land 341 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 11: on some kind of park where he can bring this 342 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 11: vision to life. So it's a way of honoring our 343 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 11: nation's history as we bring in the two hundred and 344 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 11: fiftieth Birthday next year. 345 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: I know there's going to be some pushback from conservatives 346 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 1: saying why are we spending money on this? But if 347 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna spend money, especially in kind of an artistic way, 348 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: this is probably where it does need to get spent 349 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: in honoring the tradition in the history of the United States, 350 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: because if you lose that, you lose the country. Monica 351 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: Page Trening Points, White House Correspondent, thanks so much for 352 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: joining us. 353 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 11: Thanks so much, you guys, Thank you. 354 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: Now much has been made about Mam Danny, the guy 355 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: who's running for New York City mayor. 356 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: He went to Washington, d C. 357 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: Today to try and drum up support for major Libs 358 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: because as far as anybody's concerned, the only people that 359 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: have endorsed him explicitly are AOC and Bernie Sanders, which 360 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: doesn't make a huge amount of the LIB party over there, 361 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: but nonetheless he's still in the race. Let's bring our 362 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: panel back Paula and Lily. Guys, this is interesting. 363 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: Paula. 364 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: I want to start with you, because you, unfortunately may 365 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: have to deal with this guy much more than the 366 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: rest of us and spread out throughout the country. Among 367 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: the many things that he himself has said, his dad 368 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: wrote a book in two thousand and four, and I'm 369 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: gonna read you a quote from this. Try not to 370 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: be too horrified. His dad said, suicide bombing needs to 371 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: be understood as a feature, not a bug, a feature 372 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: of modern political violence, rather than stigmatized as a mark 373 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: of barbarism. He wrote this in a two thousand and 374 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: four book called Good Muslim, Bad Muslim America, The Cold 375 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: War and the Roots of Terror Paula. People, you know, 376 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: detractors will be like, you're taking it out of context. Okay, fine, 377 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: what context? 378 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: Does this make sense? 379 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 4: In no context at all? 380 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 6: And you know, I don't want to be in a 381 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 6: position where I'm generalizing any group of people. But I 382 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 6: had a professor in college that also of that same 383 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 6: religion that referred to nine to eleven as a cultural misunderstanding, 384 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 6: the reason US Americans do not understand them, for the 385 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 6: cultural differences that we have from people who are from 386 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 6: that part of the world. That is legitimately what we 387 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 6: were told. I mean, I'm a New Yorker myself. My 388 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 6: dad was in New York City during nine to eleven. 389 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 6: I mean, he talks every single year about the horrors 390 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 6: of it, the fact that we've are forgetting about of that, 391 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 6: all that were distant from all of that, and we 392 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 6: have a guy running for the mayor of the biggest. 393 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: City in this entire country, that clearly has. 394 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 6: Been brought up in an upbringing that has no respect. 395 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 4: For American values in American culture. 396 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 6: Is I don't even know how to put into words 397 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 6: how this makes me feel. And then more of it 398 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 6: comes out about this guy, the worst it gets. I mean, 399 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 6: at a certain point, I thought a couple of weeks ago, 400 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 6: we say, okay, we found everything on him, every single 401 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 6: thing I hear, he just gets worse, and I didn't 402 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 6: even think I was possible that. 403 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: Yes, echoing that point, I felt the same way about 404 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: the Maryland father Kilmar Abrego Garcia. 405 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: First, he was just from Maryland News. 406 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: A father, Okay, he beats his wife, all right, it's 407 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: a humor trafficker, Okay, he's part of a gang. It 408 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: just keeps getting worse and worse and worse, Lily Kate, 409 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: Is that gonna do anything? 410 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: Though? 411 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: The more we find out about this dude, the more 412 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: that people are aware of, in my opinion, his very 413 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: radical ideas of things, not even opinion that's just objectively true. 414 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to matter ultimately when it 415 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 1: comes down to the elections coming up? 416 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 5: Well, the new York mayoral elections are extremely interesting because 417 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 5: they do it in a very very different way than 418 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 5: normal elections. So there might be some kind of quartering 419 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 5: or having of a vote that ends up going in 420 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 5: either Eric adams favor or you know, running as an 421 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 5: independent or Governor Cuomo's. It might, it might end up 422 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: and shake up some sort of way. But I just 423 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 5: want to point out the fact that he wrote that 424 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 5: in two thousand and four, that's like three years after 425 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 5: nine to eleven happened. That's when patriotism has very highest 426 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 5: between Republicans and unity between Republicans and Democrats nationwide. I mean, 427 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 5: we say never forget, but we're clearly forgetting something about 428 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 5: and the fact that he would call legitimate and actual 429 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 5: violence just a part of the American political system should 430 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 5: show how radical that the Islam ideology is and how 431 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: powerful of a political tool it is. And I always 432 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 5: tell people this, I say, you know, Islam is an 433 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 5: extremely powerful political tool because it relies on the understanding 434 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 5: of hierarchy power and then it's not afraid to use 435 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: violence and then lie about the actual violence that it commits. 436 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 4: And so we need to be. 437 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: Really careful about who we elect in the New York 438 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 5: mayoral race because it's the biggest city, it's a very 439 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 5: important city in America. And I just hope that Independence 440 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 5: and Republicans can all organize themselves to get out of 441 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 5: the way and not shoot themselves in the foot and all, 442 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 5: you know, clan behind one person, push that guy forward 443 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 5: so we can beat this once and for all. Because 444 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 5: this won't be the last iteration of a Mamdani that 445 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: comes around who is from an extremely radical, well educated 446 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 5: quote unquote well educated family. 447 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: This is just the beginning. 448 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 5: I think we're going to see people like him pop 449 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 5: up all over the United States, and we need to 450 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 5: know how to band together with Independence, with Republicans, with Conservatives, 451 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: with Libertarians to get around these people, because it's not 452 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: going to get any less radical. 453 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to piggyback on your comment about the timing 454 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: of that, you get to think too in the context 455 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: we just stopped having to take off our shoes at 456 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: the airport last week, and I know that wasn't an 457 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: exact derivative of nine to eleven, but still, like this 458 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: has been reverberating for the last twenty five years. 459 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 3: It's it's you know, of course. 460 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: That's crazy that that was written in two thousand and four, 461 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, speaking of things that are crazy. I just 462 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: I think this is so interesting, and paul I want 463 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: to start with you again. Considered you were a college athlete, 464 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: the guy who orchestrated the varsity blues scandal in which 465 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: he like photoshopped kids' heads onto different athletes and said, no. 466 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: They're the rower. They are a great rower on the 467 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: rowing team. 468 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: And the kid shows up to schools like I never 469 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: wrote a day in my life. He's got a new business, 470 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: and it is It is consulting college kids on their admissions. 471 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: Let's see a hands on, personalized approach to college admissions counseling. 472 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: I just I don't know if he's just kind of 473 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: things are going over his head. But Paula, do you 474 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: think that this guy, well, so the big story is 475 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: the judge's man did Hey, you have to disclose to 476 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: everybody your past in getting people into college and how 477 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: you did that. You think this guy's gonna drum up 478 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: any business. Rick Singer is the guy's name. 479 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, I know all about that story. 480 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 12: You know. 481 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 6: Actually, I hate to admit this, but I think that 482 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 6: he actually will have customers. 483 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 4: And let me break down exactly why. 484 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 6: Okay, I went to an IVY League institution and I 485 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 6: can tell you firsthand that everything there is a total scam. 486 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: Okay, the entire admissions process is a scam. 487 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 6: They don't actually value students based on how intelligent they are. 488 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 6: It's all about do you match this niche category. They 489 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 6: want diversity. It's if you're a tuba player and you're 490 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 6: the only tuba player in the entire Northeast, you can 491 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 6: go anywhere you want. But if you happen to play 492 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 6: the violin instead, good luck. And that is how he's 493 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 6: colleges decide who gets in, and that's actually how he 494 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 6: was so successful to begin with, that there was this 495 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 6: process that allowed him to scam people, and no one 496 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: actually cares. No one is fact checking if you are 497 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 6: actually the person who's taking that test that you have 498 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 6: the score for. No one is fact checking how you 499 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 6: got those grades in high school or if you even 500 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 6: showed up to those classes when you took them. I mean, 501 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 6: that is exactly why this guy was allowed to succeed. 502 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 6: And the college system is the problem here. And he 503 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 6: is just a really smart player that's figured out this 504 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 6: is a scam and people are willing to put thousands 505 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 6: and thousands of dollars into this every single year, and 506 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 6: he's just profiting. I mean, I hate him for it, 507 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 6: but he's really just taking advantage of the system that's 508 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 6: so messed up. 509 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 510 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. It might be a systemic 511 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: problem overall. Lily Cat will give you the last word 512 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: on this. 513 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 5: What do you think I want to read some of 514 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 5: the stuff that he is now being forced to tell 515 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 5: his future clients as a business owner, this would be harrowing. 516 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 5: He has to admit that, among other things, he bribed 517 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 5: standardized test proctors administrators to engage in cheating on college 518 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 5: entrance exams. He falsified students' academic transcripts by paying third 519 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 5: parties to take classes in their names. They falsified student 520 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: college applications with fake awards, athletic activities, and fabricated essays. 521 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 5: And they bribe college students, athletes, athletic coaches, and administrators 522 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 5: using donation through programs and personal bribes designed to help 523 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 5: in the athletic recruiting. 524 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: So like, as a business. 525 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: Owner, if I ever had to go to someone and 526 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 5: say you should hire me, also, I've committed major fraud. 527 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: I don't know what person, an honest person would take 528 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 5: me on. But to Paul's point, the whole college system 529 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 5: is such a scam. I mean, criminal amounts of money 530 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 5: for a small piece of paper at the end that 531 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 5: may or may not get you the job security that 532 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 5: you're looking for. So to the people who are falling 533 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 5: for this kind of stuff, I mean, I guess you 534 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: got to get down in nitty griddy and you got 535 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 5: to play the game. 536 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: But choose your players. 537 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 5: Rightly, choose them correctly, and maybe don't go for the 538 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: people who are self proclaimed fraudsters. 539 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you were reading from what is legally required 540 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: to be on this guy's website. 541 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 3: That's like walking into a. 542 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: Bakery and on the wall there's a court mandated sign 543 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: that said, by the way, this baker was putting rat 544 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: feces into the muffins six years ago. They may or 545 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: may not still be doing that and will remains to 546 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: be seen. But that was probably a little bit too far. 547 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: Lily Kate followed scandalon it was a good one today, guys, 548 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us, Thank you, thank you. 549 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Coming up next on turning Point tonight, Alex Clark sits 550 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: down with Tucker Carlson. We're playing the entire thing throughout 551 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: the rest of the week, So Tucker Carlson, Alex Clark 552 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: coming up next, clipping the Culture Apothecary podcast Don't go Away. 553 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 3: I'll be right back after this. 554 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 8: Got to admire what you've been able to do, not 555 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 8: to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses. 556 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 9: At Turning Point USA. We've spent thirteen years building the machine, 557 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 9: and last year we sought payoff. Our grassroots army is 558 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 9: making a real difference. Help us keep the momentum going. 559 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 9: Donate today and keep keep USA strong on campuses across America. 560 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 10: And for a gift of any amount, you'll receive your 561 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 10: big GOV sucks cooler claim yours today. 562 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 13: The only parenting regret I've ever heard you say publicly 563 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 13: is that you wish you at a homeschooled Yeah, that 564 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 13: was so stupid. 565 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 14: Well, we're you know, I was born in nineteen sixty nine. 566 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 13: But why do you feel like that's a regret because 567 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 13: it seems to me like what we know what's been 568 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 13: shared publicly about your kids, by yourself or whatever, is 569 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 13: that they're all the very successful well ivy leaguers. Your 570 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 13: son's working in the administration. I mean, so, why do 571 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 13: you feel like, well, I wish I would have gone 572 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 13: back at homeschooled. 573 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 14: I mean, I have all kinds of excuses for what 574 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 14: I did in homeschool. I'm sure there's not one of 575 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 14: my children who wanted to be homeschooled. I'm sure if 576 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 14: you were able to find them now, all living in 577 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 14: Zambia under assumed names. Just kidding. I don't ever if 578 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 14: you ever run in them, don't ask them. But if 579 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 14: you were to ask them, they would say, oh, my gosh, 580 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 14: that's a nightmare to have our father homeschool us, overbearing 581 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 14: all those theories about everything. But I was educated almost 582 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 14: exclusively by my father at home. I went to every 583 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 14: stupid private school boarding school in the world at great expense. 584 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 14: But I learned the overwhelming majority of what I know 585 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 14: today at the table with my dad talking about books 586 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 14: that he had read and experiences he'd had in places 587 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 14: that he'd been people he knew. I was educated by 588 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 14: my father. Most of my understanding the world comes from him, 589 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 14: and I wish i'd passed that on to a great 590 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 14: extent that I did to my kids. I think the 591 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 14: education they received was like contemptibly stupid. I would sometimes ask, 592 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 14: you know, like, what are you reading? Our eyes were 593 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 14: watching God by Zora Neil Hurston. She's a famous African 594 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 14: American art It's like, oh, shut up, it's garbage. Have 595 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 14: you read Anna Karanaa? What's that? 596 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 12: I mean? 597 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 14: Like the education was a joke. It was a joke. 598 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 14: And for all my pots smoking and failing out of 599 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 14: college and all the sort of checkered nature of my 600 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 14: educational history, I always read good books because I had 601 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 14: no twists, because my father made me. 602 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 13: Did you at least pass on a love for the 603 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 13: grateful dead? 604 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 14: I did, actually, and the and for bluegrass and Americana 605 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 14: and for acoustic music in general. I think school is stupid. 606 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 14: I think, basically don't think most people should go to 607 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 14: school at all. I strongly feel that way. But I 608 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 14: don't think reading is stupid. And I think that we 609 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 14: don't take it seriously enough. I don't think it's enough 610 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 14: to read. I think anytime spent with a beach novel 611 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 14: is wasted time. And you hear these elaborate justifications or 612 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 14: I need to relax my brain. No, I think you're relaxed. 613 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 14: And if you're living in American society. You get enough 614 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 14: downtime on your brain. Okay, you get enough of that 615 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 14: if you're on Twitter, I think you've had enough of that. 616 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 14: I wanted to read a real book, and so I 617 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 14: was with certain of my children, probably not across the 618 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 14: board enough, but with certain I was like, no, we're 619 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 14: not reading that, Like that's crap. 620 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 13: Actually, do you agree with the idea that marriages have seasoned, 621 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 13: you know, lots of sex, no sex, roommates, best friends, lovers, 622 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 13: or has it stayed very consistent for you? 623 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 14: I've always gotten along with my wife. I've always liked her. 624 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 14: I do think that not just sex, but like attraction, smell, affection, 625 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 14: like do I like, do I have warm feelings for 626 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 14: this person? 627 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 8: Like? 628 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 14: A lot of that is like genetic or it's determined 629 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 14: on a non conscious level. It's not the product of choice, 630 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 14: you just run into somebody. And by the way, I 631 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 14: think the children are the product of of course, genetics, 632 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 14: the mix between man and woman. And I think people 633 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 14: who were attracted to each other on a fair gnome 634 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 14: level have their children tend to be more impressive than 635 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 14: their parents like that. Yeah, so I think it's really important. 636 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 14: But of course, I mean if you've got, you know, 637 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 14: four kids at home, and one of them is breastfeeding. 638 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 14: It does tend to affect your sex life. 639 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 13: What's your advice for young married men, because my audience 640 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 13: are typically married starting families, twenty five to thirty five 641 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 13: year old women. So for their husbands who are listening 642 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 13: to this episode, they're like, oh, I'm in that season 643 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 13: right now, Like, what is your encouragement for them? 644 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 14: Don't retreat? I mean that tends to hurt men's feelings 645 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 14: a lot, a lot, and they take it personally and 646 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 14: women just reorient to the child, and it's just so shocking. 647 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 14: Every husband feels it when you know, you realize you're 648 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 14: not the most important person to your wife, her child is, 649 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 14: and then the kid takes over your wife's body, which 650 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 14: is like, what, get off those things? Like you know 651 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 14: what I mean? I think every man feels that way, 652 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 14: like what, no, that you're not allowed there? You know, 653 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 14: what are you doing here? I feel that I felt 654 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 14: that really strongly, and I tried not to say it 655 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 14: too much. Now I joke about it, like I'm glad 656 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 14: they're you know, I'm glad they're off of you. Much 657 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 14: as I love them, they're my children. But so, but 658 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 14: there is this moment for a man where you're like, 659 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 14: oh my gosh, I lost my wife, and I think 660 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 14: it's important at that point to make the effort to try. 661 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 14: Your wife is never going to focus on you with 662 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 14: the kids around. She just can't. It's just impossible. So 663 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 14: you need to get her out of the house, whether 664 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 14: it's on a walk preferably. I mean, we always always 665 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 14: went out to dinner and said, golances. When we get 666 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 14: a motel room near our house, get room service, hang 667 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 14: out there for them and go back, you know what 668 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 14: I mean, Like spend one hundred and fifty bucks for 669 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 14: the room, because you're never going to get her full 670 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 14: attention with her children in the room. Ever to this day, 671 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 14: by the way, you can be in your fifties and 672 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 14: your kids will come visit with their spouses and she'll 673 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 14: be distracted because that's just how women are wired. And 674 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 14: think heaven, they are wired that way. It's it's how 675 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 14: infants survive. I mean, when a baby cries the middle 676 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 14: of the night, if I were the mom, the kid 677 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 14: would starve to death because I just wouldn't wake up. 678 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 13: When you told your wife, my career is changing. After 679 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 13: fourteen years. What was her initial reaction and did her 680 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 13: reaction surprise You mean when. 681 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 14: I got fired? Yeah, oh it was amazing. She was 682 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 14: finally she was relieved. I said, I got a call 683 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 14: from Suzanne Scott. I almost could remember her name. I mean, 684 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 14: or no, I'll will who was the president. I guess 685 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 14: still is the president of Foxes. I never really had 686 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 14: much of a relationship with her. Odd person, but always 687 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 14: nice to me. And I said, Suzanne Scott just called 688 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 14: me and they canceled my show and my wife was 689 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 14: with our dogs, and she goes, what why? And I said, 690 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 14: I don't know. They wouldn't tell me, and she goes, 691 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 14: thank god, no way. First thing. First thing, she said that, 692 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 14: why did you say that? You think she thought they 693 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 14: were really anti Christian? 694 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 695 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 13: Really? 696 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 12: Yeah? 697 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, Well do you agree, Oh of course, yeah yeah. 698 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 4: Why do you say that? 699 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 14: It just makes them uncomfortable. They're not comfortable with that 700 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 14: at all. If you said on which I don't think 701 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 14: I ever did, I probably should have, but like, hey, 702 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 14: how are the Christians of the West Bank doing? Like, 703 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 14: how's Bethlehem doing where Jesus was born, the church in 704 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 14: the Nativity. It's got to be that's not the most 705 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 14: sacred site in Christen dib but I'm not sure what 706 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 14: is Jesus was born in Bethlehem. It's the Church of 707 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 14: the Nativity. Let's call the rector of the Church in 708 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 14: the Nativity and ask him what he thinks was raely occupation. 709 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 14: Just as a Christian, I think it's totally fair. Whoh, 710 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 14: I mean, you'd be out of there really, of course. 711 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 14: I mean you're not allowed to say, are you joking? 712 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 13: So when we saw that viral photo of you guys 713 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 13: like laughing on the golf cart or whatever you guys 714 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 13: were driving to dinner, I mean it was it looked 715 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 13: like pure joy, and it was pure joy because you 716 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 13: both felt like a waste can. 717 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 14: Yeah, that was pretty funny. That was actually very funny. 718 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 14: My wife's a very sweet person, mother of four always 719 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 14: four dogs, from a religion teacher, totally non political, not 720 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 14: a news consumer, and just a nice person in love 721 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 14: by everybody, I think. But we're co back to the 722 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 14: house and there all these back with the trash cans 723 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 14: are like side Gate. They're all these like reporters and 724 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 14: guy with a camera and the guy with the camera's 725 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 14: from the Daily Mail, and uh, he goes you know, 726 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 14: I was trying to be nice, but what are you 727 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 14: doing at my house? 728 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 12: Yeah? 729 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 14: I don't like that, so but anyway, I was trying 730 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 14: to be nice because I'm on camera. You just got 731 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 14: your shirts got canceled. What do you have to say 732 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 14: to Fox News? And I was like, you know, I 733 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 14: haven't talked to Fox about it. I got to figure 734 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 14: out about my contract and I don't really have anything 735 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 14: to say. And my wife goes, I've got something to say, 736 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 14: and we try to keep that to a minimum. You know, 737 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 14: she's a she's the kind of person who never lies. 738 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 14: And I was like, oh, and the guy goes, what 739 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 14: do you have to say? And she goes Fox News? 740 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 13: And I was like, oh, and were you never more 741 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 13: in love with her than in that moment? 742 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 12: No, I was. 743 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 14: So I was like, Susie, you can't say that, and 744 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 14: she goes, why I think that? And I said, because 745 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 14: I got all these kids and like family and stuff, 746 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 14: you can't talk like that. And she goes, well, I 747 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 14: think that, and that's what I think, and I'm not 748 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 14: gonna lie. So I go in and I call the editor. 749 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 14: I knew the editor of the Daily Mail, and I 750 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 14: was like, my wife, so I just wanted you didn't know, 751 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 14: but very sweet person, very sincere. Christian can't have her 752 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 14: using the effort on camera? Can you not run that? 753 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 14: And he's like, okay, isn't that nice yet? And so 754 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 14: I go in and I tell my wife I want 755 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 14: to my bedroom and called him right away, and she goes, 756 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 14: what I want to be quotas I think that she 757 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 14: was mad. Actually the real reason that she was mad 758 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 14: every year they would send me bottles of wine for Christmas. Well, 759 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 14: they didn't know, they didn't care. I mean, they just 760 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 14: sent me bottles one. I thought it was really nice. Whatever, 761 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 14: give them to my kids or give them to friends 762 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 14: or whatever. I'm sure it was good wine. I don't 763 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 14: know my wife and always be like, but you don't 764 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 14: drink and they send you bottles of wine. I mean 765 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 14: that's so thoughtless. They don't even know who you are. 766 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 14: And I was like, it's my employer. I don't I 767 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 14: don't care. I don't want some personal relationship with an employer. 768 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 14: I mean they're nice. They were super nice from the 769 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 14: day I started till the day they fired me. They 770 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 14: were nice to me, So I'm not mad at them 771 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 14: at all. But she thought that just bugged her. You know, 772 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 14: she doesn't live in that world at all. She lives 773 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 14: in a world of total sincerity and honesty. 774 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 13: You and now some of your kids are married. 775 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 14: One married, two engaged. 776 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 13: What do you and your wife in vision or hope 777 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 13: for your years as grandparents. 778 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 14: I'm really about quantity, not quality. I feel the same 779 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 14: way about kids as I do about say, a buffet 780 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 14: at Shony's. I just want a lot of it, and 781 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 14: so I would like a lot of grandchildren. And you'll 782 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 14: notice in the Hebrew Bible, wealth and stature are measured 783 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 14: not by like the quality of your kids, by the number. 784 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 14: It's like his descendants replentiful, and I feel that way. Sorry, 785 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 14: I don't something wrong as a shallow person. So my 786 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 14: goal is to sit in my declining years, which are 787 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 14: probably fast approaching, at the end of the table, and 788 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 14: look out on the sea of people who vaguely look 789 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 14: like me chatting away, and I turn my hearing aids 790 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 14: off into sort of look noble like that. 791 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 8: Got to admire what you've been able to do, not 792 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 8: to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses. 793 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 9: At Turning Point, USA. We've spent thirteen years building the machine, 794 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 9: and last year we sought payoff. 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I promise one of these days 814 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: they'll be a I try to mention kind of like 815 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: the bulk things that people email about, Like, Hey, a 816 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: bunch of people emailed about this time and address that here. 817 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: But maybe we'll go to more in depth. 818 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: On some more granular emails one. 819 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: Of these days. 820 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: But again, tpt at tpusa dot com. You can email 821 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: anytime with you agree with the wrong. We love to 822 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: see all your emails. Let's see it. 823 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 3: It's it's that day of the week. 824 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: It's it's it's woke Wednesday. 825 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: Thank you highlight our vest screaming lady from the first inauguration. 826 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: I wonder where she he they them was during the 827 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four inauguration. Do you think they've learned from 828 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: their past mistakes of being the most memed individual on 829 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: the planet or when did the same thing for the 830 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: second elect or second inauguration? 831 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 832 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: I would love to see where person is for this 833 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: woke Wednesday. I thought this was appropriate. It is only 834 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: the Wokes that think that you're racists that are actually 835 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: racist themselves. The most race I think Thomas Soul has 836 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: a quote that says something around this. The most racist 837 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: people on the planet are the people that are fighting 838 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: so hard to keep racism alive. This is one of 839 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: the byproducts of that. Watched this and laugh with me 840 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: at her together. 841 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 4: So I'm in my beautiful city LA. 842 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 15: And I have friends texting me like, all morning, my 843 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 15: gardner didn't show up, my housekeeper didn't show up. Oh 844 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 15: my farmer's market was closed. Everyone's scared. Well, this is 845 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 15: not going to just happen in LA. And you one 846 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 15: percenters that only voted for Trump because of money, Guess 847 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 15: what You're gonna have to do your own dishes, or 848 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 15: clean your own house, or mowing your own lawn and 849 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 15: ohe that wonderful produce, the organic produce you get for 850 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 15: your brunches all gone. Yeah, even actually have to do 851 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 15: some work around your house. These people are. 852 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: Important, Okay, Lady one, talk about privilege. If this lady's like, 853 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: oh my gardener didn't show up, I couldn't go to 854 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: the farmer's market. I might have to clean my own 855 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: dishes and do my own clean my own toilet. Wow, 856 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: it's something that we all have to do every day. 857 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: And then to sit there and say, it's only the 858 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: brown people that are able to do that, because nobody 859 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: else is capable of doing any of those those tasks. 860 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: And I wish that the people could hear themselves, except 861 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: for the fact that I don't think they would do anything. 862 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: I think if you played this video back, this lady 863 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: would go, yeah, that's exactly what I said, and not 864 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: really understand the implications that she's making and how racist 865 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: she actually does sound. Like I said, the only racist 866 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: that exists fervently are the ones who are on the 867 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: LIB side of the AIP pretending that they are the 868 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: race crusaders. That's gonna do it for us here at 869 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: Turning Points. And I appreciate you sticking around, tuning in 870 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and the best of the Charlie Kirk Show. Oh, 871 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: actually from SAS is going to take us out. We'll 872 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: see tomorrow, same time, same place. 873 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 2: God bless America. 874 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 9: So Josh and Dave, welcome to Turning Point, USA. Welcome 875 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 9: to Tampa, and give it up for both these men. 876 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 3: Again, it's. 877 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 9: So we have a clock here we can blow through 878 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 9: that if this is going well and respectful and spirited. 879 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 9: I first wanted to start by introducing both these men 880 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 9: Josh Hammer, Newsweek, Josh Hammer's Show. Josh is a very 881 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 9: passionate and eloquent defender of ISRAE and also was a 882 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 9: great friend and someone that we talk about a lot 883 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 9: of other issues as well. So Josh, welcome, great to 884 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 9: have you, great to be a true also Dave Smith. 885 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 9: Dave is comedian a lot of fans if you ares 886 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 9: here in the audience, Dave and also a libertarian, and 887 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 9: we're not going to talk much about that, but we're 888 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 9: talking about how much we agreed backstage on certain things, 889 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 9: and Dave means a lot that you made work here. 890 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 9: You took an awful flight to get here from halfway 891 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 9: across the country, and so Dave, you could plug your 892 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 9: stuff as well, because I don't know the name of 893 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 9: your show and stuff, but I want to start with this. 894 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 9: I want to start with opening statements, if you will. 895 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 9: There are three big things that I want to cover, 896 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 9: and we just did a focus group with some of 897 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 9: our students here earlier. The three big things want to cover. 898 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 9: We want to cover the twelve day war between Israel 899 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 9: and Iran. 900 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 3: What do we think of that? Good? 901 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 8: Bad? 902 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 9: How did Trump handle it? Number two, we want to 903 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 9: talk about the appeared, the fake or the real amount 904 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 9: of Israeli influence in American politics from APAC to how 905 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 9: congressmen are involved and kind of have our discussion debate. 906 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 9: And then finally, it's one thing to be against stuff. 907 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 9: Everybody you can always you know, I don't like this. 908 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 9: I don't like that. I want both of these men 909 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 9: to present what their solution is, their proposition of how 910 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 9: what they are proposing. So with that, though, Dave, I 911 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 9: thought it would be helpful. This is your first turning 912 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 9: point event some people aren't familiar with your work. Introduce yourself, 913 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 9: make an introductory statement, and the floor is yours, my friend. 914 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 7: Well, thank you very much, and thank you guys for 915 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 7: having me. 916 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, as as as. 917 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 7: Charlie mentioned, I took a flight here, so I'm going 918 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 7: on no sleep, so if Josh wins, it doesn't count. 919 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 7: But I'm a stand up comedian and I'm also a libertarian. 920 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 7: I'm really a follower of the greatest congressman who's ever lived, 921 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 7: who is doctor Ron Paul, who is turning ninety years old. 922 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 7: Happy birthday to him. And it as far as look, 923 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 7: I would say, I think that American foreign policy for 924 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 7: my entire life has been insane, and like criminally insane. 925 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 7: We've launched war after war. We've talked about peace through 926 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 7: strength the whole time, but all we've gotten is permanent 927 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 7: militarism and forever wars against countries that pose no threat 928 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 7: to US, And a huge part of the reason why 929 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 7: we've embarked on this is because the neo Conservatives hijacked 930 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 7: our foreign policy and they were in power after nine 931 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 7: to eleven, and the neo Conservatives, as everybody who's followed 932 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 7: it knows, were joined at the hip with the Lekud party. 933 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 7: That's just a fact. They all admitted in their own words. 934 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 7: And you can go back and you can read the 935 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 7: Clean Break Memo. You can read the companion piece Coping 936 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 7: with Crumbling States. This was written by David Wormser and 937 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 7: Richard Pearl, and they laid out their plant. 938 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 12: Now. 939 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 7: Their plan was that to help Israel, the Clean Break 940 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 7: is a break from the peace process, a break from Oslow, 941 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 7: which was designed to give the Palestinians their own state. 942 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 7: And these neo conservative geniuses decided that instead of the 943 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 7: Israelis making peace with the Palestinians, they could just have 944 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 7: the US overthrow all of the surrounding governments that were 945 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 7: giving Israel a hard time. And this is where for 946 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 7: Star General Wesley Clark says that he saw the plans 947 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 7: right after nine to eleven to overthrow seven countries in 948 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 7: the next five years. 949 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 12: And what was the last country on that list, it 950 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 12: was Iran. 951 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 7: Okay, this is a big part of what the whole 952 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 7: conflict is about. 953 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 12: Now. 954 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 7: The neo conservatives, neo conservative has kind of become like 955 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 7: a pejorative for warhawks these days. 956 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 12: And don't get me wrong, I support that. 957 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 7: Keep calling them neocons, But the actual neo conservatives, the 958 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 7: self identified neo conservatives, aren't really in power anymore. 959 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 12: But Benjamin Netanyahu. 960 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 7: Is still in power in Israel and the Lacud party 961 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 7: is still pushing for this. 962 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 12: Now. I want very quickly. I'll try to not go 963 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 12: too long here, I bet. Okay. 964 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 7: They actually did focus group testing back in the nineties 965 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 7: before the first Gulf War in Iraq. And you know, 966 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 7: Americans weren't really moved by we have to reinstall the 967 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 7: king of Kuwait, but they were moved by the nuclear threat. Now, 968 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 7: if you go read Coping with Crumbling States or the 969 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 7: Clean Break Memo in the nineties, when the neocons admitted 970 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 7: they wanted to overthrow Saddam Hussein, they never said it 971 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,760 Speaker 7: was because he had nuclear weapons. 972 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 12: They said he was a problem for Israel in the region. 973 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 7: They only made up that lie after nine to eleven 974 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 7: because they knew that's what would sell you. Maybe not 975 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 7: you you're too young, but sell your moms and dads 976 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 7: on going and fight in this war. And by the way, 977 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 7: when they talked about wanting to overthrow Iran, it was 978 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 7: the same thing. Never had nothing to do with a 979 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 7: nuclear threat. That's just the thing they use now is 980 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 7: the excuse. So, yes, there is tremendous influence by Israel 981 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 7: in our government. That doesn't mean I'm subscribing to some 982 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 7: crazy conspiracy or telling you to hate Jewish people. 983 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 12: I'm Jewish. 984 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 7: I'm just saying they have influence, they've used it in 985 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 7: a very negative way, and we should reject this insane 986 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 7: foreign policy and embrace the foreign policy that doctor Ron 987 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 7: Paul advocated, which is the foreign policy of the Founding Fathers. 988 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 7: Stay out of entangling Alliance says, stay out of unnecessary wars, 989 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 7: be friends with the world, and trade with the world. 990 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 12: That's the key to prosperity. Thank you, Dave. 991 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 9: Josh opening statement. Feel free to respond, and then we'll 992 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 9: proceed as we go. So that was about three and 993 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 9: a half four minutes, so same amount of time, all right, 994 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 9: So it's. 995 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 16: Really great to be here. Thank you Charlie for having me. 996 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,879 Speaker 16: Thank you turning point for having me back. It's really 997 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 16: wonderful to be at this amazing conference. You know, Dave 998 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 16: Joe that he didn't get any sleep last night. Say's 999 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 16: actually also a fast day on the Jewish calendar. I'm 1000 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 16: not eating or even drinking water. So we're all on 1001 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 16: the same page here. 1002 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 12: We're all just totally screwed. 1003 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 16: So you can kind of get off the same start 1004 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 16: starting place there. Look, there's a lot of substance to 1005 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 16: respond to. I'll just really briefly do that and then 1006 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 16: talk about what I actually want to talk about. In 1007 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 16: my opening remarks, Dave mentioned this alleged coordination between the 1008 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 16: neo Conservatives, which I presume he means Bush era foreign 1009 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 16: policy and the Lacud Party. I presume half of you 1010 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 16: probably don't even know what the Lacude Party is. It's 1011 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 16: referring to the Israeli Right. It's very instructive, and Dave 1012 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 16: always conveniently and neallet to inform the audience of this 1013 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 16: that the actual leader of the Israeli right back in 1014 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 16: two thousand and two, men by the name of Ariol Sharon, 1015 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 16: vehemently opposed the Bush administration going into a rock. So 1016 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 16: this whole notion that Israel is talking America into foreign 1017 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 16: wars is total nonsense. 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