1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Benky's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. When Mohmed, the second young Sultan of the 7 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: Ottoman Empire, set his eyes on Constantinople in fourteen fifty one, 8 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: there was nothing anyone could do to talk him out 9 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: of it. And they tried, Oh, they tried. Because one 10 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: does not simply conquer Constantinople. Mehmed wanted to do something 11 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: truly great, something no sultan had ever done before. He 12 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: wanted to take the capital city of Christianity. But he 13 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: knew it wouldn't be easy, and he knew that he 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: would have to get creative in order to accomplish this goal. 15 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Constantinople's defenses were quite literally impregnable thanks to modern technology. 16 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: There were four layers of walls, a moat, and a 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: chain that stretched across the Golden Horn to prevent any 18 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: navy from getting close via the water. Given that it 19 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: was situated on a particularly small and easily defensible plot 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: of land. It's no wonder that the fortifications had held 21 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: for centuries. Mahmed wanted to fix that or wreck that, 22 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: I should say, but first he had to get past 23 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: the walls and the moat. Despite how highly trained the 24 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: Ottomans were, the Christians house inside the city would never 25 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: have to meet them in battle if their opponents couldn't 26 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: bring down the walls. Enter one particularly intrepid Hungarian name Orban. 27 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Orban was a Christian metallurgist who set out to sell 28 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: his new invention to the highest bidder. He first took 29 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: his invention to the Christians of Constantinople, but they couldn't 30 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: afford his price. So Orbon did the thing that any 31 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: good capitalist would do. He took it to a competitor. 32 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: Mehmed the Second saw the value in Orban's invention and 33 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: paid more than the asking price to have it done sooner. 34 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: While Orban questioned the timeline, he agreed to make it 35 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: happen for the Sultan, as well as personally overseeing the 36 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: use of his revolutionary weaponry on the battlefield. Orban's weapon 37 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: was unlike anything the medieval world had seen before, where 38 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Once there had just been catapults and tribute ches hurling 39 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: stones at walls, and maybe the occasional small cannon. Now 40 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: there was Orban's twenty seven foot long cannon. And yes, 41 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: the cannon had a name, Basilica, although on the battlefield 42 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: it would be known as the Bear and all the 43 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: smaller variants would be known as Her Cubs. Basilica itself 44 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: took a team of more than sixty oxen to carry 45 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: to the battlefield and must have looked like a harbinger 46 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: of death, which it would soon become in more ways 47 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: than one. Mahmed and Orban prepare the cannons and aimed 48 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: them at those impenetrable walls, about to find out just 49 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: how strong they really were. It didn't take long, though, 50 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: you see, the Bear and Her Cubs broke through the 51 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: first couple of layers and created holes wide enough for 52 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: the Christians inside to finally see the need to step 53 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: out and counter attack. And while those battles raged on 54 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: the field, Orban kept firing and firing and firing. In fact, 55 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: they fired the Basilica so rapidly that the cannon's shell 56 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: began to crack. After all, this was a brand new technology. 57 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: With no time for testing before action. This was the 58 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: field test, and Orbon was beginning to see the problem. Unfortunately, 59 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Memed the second wasn't. When Basilica sat idle for several hours, 60 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: Mahmed pressured the issue, demanding Orban to continue firing. Despite 61 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: the incerns for the cracking shell. The inventor had no 62 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: options either die at the hand of the ambitious yet 63 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: impulsive sultan or risk death at the hands of his 64 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: own creation. So he kept firing, and as the Christians 65 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: turned the tide of battle against the Ottomans, Basilica did 66 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: exactly what Orban feared it would do. It fired one 67 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: last time, fracturing the shell down the middle, and then 68 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: exploded right there in the middle of the Ottoman troops. 69 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: The setbacks would eventually stop, though, and the Ottoman Empire 70 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: would finally capture Constantinople, turning it into modern day Istanbul, 71 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: the capital of Turkey. And while Orband's invention may have 72 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: spelled his own demise, it was the beginning of a 73 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: weapons game that would carry on right up to today. 74 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: You might even say this was the moment when artillery 75 00:04:50,200 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: design really blew up. M The birth of a child 76 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: is a joyful occasion. New life is brought into the 77 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: world to grow into someone who hopefully does a bit 78 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: of good. Of course, the act of carrying and giving 79 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: birth to that child, well that's a bit of a 80 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: roller coaster. The morning sickness, the cravings, and the potential 81 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: complications can all make the experience less than pleasant, But 82 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: in the end it's worth it, although if you had 83 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: to do it seventy times, you might think twice. Feodor 84 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Vassilyev was a Russian peasant born in seventeen oh seven. 85 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: He was married to a woman whose name wasn't recorded, 86 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: although it was believed to have been Valentina. But although 87 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: history may have forgotten her name, it certainly hasn't forgotten 88 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: what she did. Over the course of her life. From 89 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: seventeen to seventeen sixty five, a period of forty years, 90 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: Valentina Vasolyyev gave birth to sixty nine children. But let 91 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: me say that again, in case you think I misspoke. 92 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: Valentina gave birth to sixty nine children. That's an impressive 93 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: sounding number, right. According to the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, 94 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: the chances of having twins is one in two d 95 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: fifty pregnancies, triplets one in ten thousand, and quadruplets a 96 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: whopping one in seven hundred thousand pregnancies. And sure those 97 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: odds come down when fertility treatments come into the picture. 98 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: But those weren't things that were available during Valentina's lifetime. 99 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: Yet she gave birth to sixteen pairs of twins, seven 100 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: sets of triplets, and four sets of quadruplets. And given 101 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: that the pregnancy terms of triplets and quadruplets are on 102 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: average shorter than those of twins or single children, Valentina 103 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: was likely pregnant for eighteen full years of her life, 104 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: and justice surprising to hear out of the entire brood 105 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: of sixty nine children, only two died in infancy. Of course, 106 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: it was clear that Fyodor loved growing his family, and 107 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: because Valentina wasn't his only wife, he had more chances 108 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: to do just that. His second wife gave birth to 109 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: another eighteen kids. There were six sets of twins and 110 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: two sets of triplets, bringing Theodor's grand total to a 111 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: record setting eighties seven children. Literally you see, Theodore holds 112 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: the Guinness World Record for fathering the most children of 113 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: anyone on earth for the last two hundred and fifty years. 114 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: Others have come close, though. Another Russian couple, Kekov Kirilov 115 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: and his wife were said to have had fifty seven 116 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: children during the mid seventeen hundreds, but nobody came close 117 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: to Feodor and Valentina. However, that didn't stop the naysayers 118 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: from trying to knock the couple down a few pegs. 119 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: In the seventeen eighty three issue of The Gentleman's Magazine, 120 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: an English periodical from the same time, a letter was 121 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: published by a reader who had done the math. They 122 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: suggested that the high number of children was actually the 123 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: result of Feodor's promiscuous ways. A book published in seventeen 124 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: ninety by B. Jay Herman mentioned Feodor's enormous family, but 125 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: encouraged readers to view the case with a caution. He said, 126 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: in fact, that was the common belief for most books 127 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: and articles written about Feodore and his children question everything. 128 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: In the late eighteen hundreds, the French Academy of Sciences 129 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: tried to get the truth by reaching out to someone 130 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: named M. Khanikoff from the Imperial Academy of St. Petersburg. 131 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: They were hoping for some guidance on how to pursue 132 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: their investigation, to which Kannakoff told them not to bother. 133 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: There were still Vassilyev's living in Moscow and they were 134 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: getting sizeable favors from the government due to the size 135 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: of their family. Over the years, the inquiries into the 136 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: Vassoljev's died down, and eventually any evidence of the truth disappeared. 137 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: Still that doesn't stop scientists and fertility experts today from 138 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: questioning the history. All the biological information we have now 139 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: tells us that it's unlikely that Valentina gave birth to 140 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: that many children in her life. Her body probably wouldn't 141 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: have allowed it, especially as she got older. But without 142 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: definitive proof, all we can really do is speculate. So 143 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: for now, the record stands eighty seven children, which is 144 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: clearly a lot of mouths to feed. Of course, it 145 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: also meant that there were plenty of hands to take 146 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: care of all those chores around the house. 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