1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. I love that you just 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: were closing your eyes, getting in your body, getting ready 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: for this conversation. It's exactly why I wanted to talk 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: to you. Actually, um, So, I was actually writing the 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: outline for this. And it's funny because even when I'm 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: coming to see you and we're doing a session, if 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: I have to tell a friend like where I'm going, 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't really know how to explain what I'm doing 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: with you. I'm like, you're on the right track. I'm like, 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to see this lady that I've been working 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: with and we do breath work. So I started calling 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: me my breath work lady, which I don't even know 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: what that means. But there's so much more to what 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: you do. Can you help me navigate a description of 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: the kind of work that you do and even the 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: stuff that you do with me specifically, um, because I 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: want to talk about why that's been so helpful to 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: my journey. But what would you say your description is? Yeah, 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: that's a great question, and it's uh, it always shaped shifts, 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: you know, basically, you know on my my resume. UM, 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: I started yoga as a child. Really, I was about 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: thirteen when I began the yoga path, and that was 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: right in the midst of parents getting divorced, and I 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: mean it was just there was so much undoing going 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: on in my life that yoga became, UM like a touchstone, 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: like a survival thread. And my first teacher UM was 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: I would say, an earth angel. She was. She was 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: one of my mom's best friends, and mom and I 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: both started doing yoga with her at that time. That 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: was early day. So I'm a long time yoga UM. 32 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: You know, fast forward UM became you know, after waitressing 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: and selling phutons and tires and you know, all kinds 34 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: of various in sundry occupations. Going through school, UM, I 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: became a massage therapist, so kind of hands on healing modality, 36 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: and that morphed into UM A somatic transpersonal psychotherapy training 37 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: UM A four year intensive training that I did in Boulder, 38 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: Colorado called Aliyah process, and it's a it's a synthesis 39 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: or an amalgamation of many therapeutic modalities. UM. Breath work. 40 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: We were trained in what's called ricky and breath work. 41 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: There are many forms of you know UM trademark breath 42 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: work systems. There's holotropic breath breathing system by Stanislav graff Um, 43 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: there's what was coined birthing back in the day. UM, 44 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: all kinds of ways to basically help us reorient internally. 45 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: And the breath literally helps us open the feeling body 46 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: and the mental body. So the breath is that vehicle 47 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: that brings us home to ourselves and you know, allows 48 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: us on the exhale to offer our lives, you know, 49 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: in service, which you know, whatever we're doing, whether we're 50 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, cleaning the bathroom or doing the dishes or 51 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: suvie serving soup at a soup kitchen, or teaching a 52 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: yoga class, or talking about UM adornments of the body, 53 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: and you know, the path of beauty, it's all in 54 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: service and it helps I think all of us to 55 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: think of our lives that way in service. So so 56 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: the psychotherapy component added to UM. You know, what what 57 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: my roles and functions are some people, you know, it 58 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: really depends on what people's intentions are, you know, how 59 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: if they find me on the internet, if their friends 60 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: refer them, you know, on my website. There's kind of 61 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: a bullet point list. It's like, why do people come 62 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: see me? You know, for for a long time, people 63 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: come private, Yo, I want to private yoga lesson. You know, 64 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: I want some help with my postures and my awesoinness 65 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: and my body and um or someone might come um 66 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: with relationship issues, someone might come just with low mood, 67 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: and like, how how can I reconnect with my life force, 68 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: my vitality, my joy, um and even access my grief 69 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: in a real way. So like, in a way, I'm 70 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: a midwife. Some people call me a spiritual mentor I 71 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: don't really you know, what do I call myself? I 72 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: you know many names, you know, just don't call me 73 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: late for dinner. But anyway, I love food. Um. So, 74 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, basically we all need helpers, and we hit 75 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: times in our lives where we need specific uh support 76 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: and help. And really I'm a holistic practitioner. I'm a 77 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: practitioner that encourages, supports and invites um an individual groups 78 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: of people, communities, families, couples back to themselves right and 79 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: cultivating that deep, inner, intimate relationship with source you know, 80 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: within the body. And it's a great you know, in yoga, 81 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: Yoga is such a beautiful, um perfect system. That the 82 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: goal is liberation, the goal is freedom, and the Sanskrit 83 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: word for that is moksha. It's a really beautiful word. 84 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: And what does that mean? What does freedom mean? What 85 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: does it mean to live a life in freedom? Freedom 86 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: of thought, freedom of action, freedom of emotion, um, freedom 87 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: of choice? You know about what we take in our body, 88 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: what we don't take in our body? Who? Who and 89 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: where is the ultimate authority? You know, of living in 90 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: alignment with Divine, with our own spirit, with who we 91 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: truly are. I could not have said those words. That 92 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: was so beautiful to me. That's why I'm saying to you. 93 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: I don't know what how to put it even into 94 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: a box, because every time I come to you, we 95 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: have a completely different session, you know, and it is 96 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: very dependent on what's happening in my life how I 97 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: come to you. There are certain days I've come to 98 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: you in such an anxious state that I can't get 99 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 1: out of my head. And you know, I've talked really 100 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: openly with you about all of the therapy work I've done, 101 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: all of the twelve step work I've done, and all 102 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: of those things have been extremely helpful to me, and 103 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: none of it is for nothing, you know, Um, but 104 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: I have found that where I am in my journey 105 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: right now, what has been missing is just this mind 106 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,559 Speaker 1: heart connection and so it's like I gets really stuck 107 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: in my mind and when I show up aout your house. 108 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: The thing that has been the most beneficial to me 109 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: is that the first invitation is always to just stop, 110 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: pause and breathe, and you and I will just breathe 111 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: together until we can get to this place of like, Okay, 112 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: where do we go next? Like what what is my 113 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: my journey that day? Or what is the thing that 114 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: you can help guide me with? And it has been 115 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: a spiritual healing of many capacities. But um, I want 116 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit. You mentioned somatic therapy, and 117 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: I do think the reason you're so special is because 118 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: you have so many different qualifications and so you can 119 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: meet people where they need to be met. The psychotherapy 120 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: comes into play with the ability to converse about you know, 121 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: certain dynamics. You mentioned relationship struggles, and for me lately 122 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: it's been that, but it's also been losing myself because 123 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: life has changed, and navigating the grief of that, and 124 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: then also how I want to move forward, And um, 125 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: I just want to know, like, what, what do you 126 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: think if you could explain to people, um, maybe why 127 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: breathing is even important, because I think for many years 128 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: I heard that and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, I know, meditate, 129 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah I should come or like you know what I'm saying, 130 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Like it's just sort of this, yeah, I know, Okay, Okay, 131 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: I hear you. I should go meditate and that's gonna 132 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: help me stay calm. And it's just like if you 133 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: sort of have that mentality, meditation sort of feels like bullshit. 134 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: It's sort of like, Okay, all I do is sit 135 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: here for ten minutes and I try to listen to 136 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: an app or I sit here and I sit and 137 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: ruminate about all the thoughts that I'm you know, needing 138 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: to go control or fix. And so what's been the 139 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: bigger the bigger thing that shifted for me with the 140 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: work with you is it's so focused on breathing, Like 141 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: you always just say that is your life force, that 142 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: is the thing you have with you all the time, 143 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: and it's not just like this word meditation. So why 144 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: why is breath specifically so important to our bodies? M nice, 145 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: thank you for that question. Um, breath um respiration. You know, 146 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: the word spirit or spiritus is actually within the word 147 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: respiration and breath. There's a beautiful book out, a newer 148 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: book called called Breathe and Nestor is his name, and 149 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: it's not he doesn't present it as as a yoga practice, UM, 150 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: but is in the intro to the book UM, he 151 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: talks about free diving, which means going in down deep 152 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: in the ocean with no tank, with no equipment, and 153 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: you learn literally to hold your breath. I mean some 154 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: people there was a big, big hoopla about my Octopus teacher. 155 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful film that came out and this man, 156 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: I think it was South Africa where he free dove 157 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: and became intimately connected to this octopus. And if you 158 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: haven't seen the film, you've got to see the film. 159 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: But tracking back, what is breath? Why is breath so important? 160 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: Breath is? You know, I look at breath as a 161 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: vehicle like a chariot, like uh, the horse and buggy 162 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: or the maserati, right, whatever your choice is that brings 163 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: us into the body at birth, right, Okay, first the 164 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: embryos and the womb and you know the you're you're 165 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: almost more like you know, in water, you're living in 166 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: water through the umbilical core, through the nourishment and respiration, 167 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: life force of the mother, you know, and then your boom, 168 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: You're suddenly out in this three dimensional life and the 169 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: cord gets cut, you know, and at first there's this 170 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: will it make a sound? Will it live? Will it breathe? 171 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: And then you hear this. It's like that, through the breath, 172 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: through the v vehicle or the current, the wave of breath, 173 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: were brought into this body, into this life, onto this planet. 174 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: And if you've ever been with a person, a dying person, 175 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: these are both holy moments, these are both transition moments. 176 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: And you know, when that last breath goes out, you know, 177 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: the body falls, the body goes back to dust, back 178 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: to the its returning. And yet the spirit or the 179 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: breath carries us, maybe merges us with the great cosmic 180 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: beyond the infinite eternal um consciousness. Maybe that happens. But 181 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: the breath is like that, It's like the lifeline and 182 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: we're drowning in the ocean and somebody throws us the 183 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: life preserver and it's the rope. It's like the umbilical cord. 184 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: It's like, what what the gift that's given to us 185 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: to reconnect within our source center, our sovereign source center. 186 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: And so why wouldn't we worship that or you know, 187 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: revere that in in a way that's not just oh well, 188 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: go meditate, it'll calm you down, or go go try 189 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: this technique or this technique. It becomes the relationship with 190 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: the breath, especially as a bukti or from the shock 191 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: to tradition and divine feminine tradition. It becomes lovemaking. It 192 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: becomes likened to being with the beloved. That spirit shows 193 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: up through the breath, through the vehicle of breath, and 194 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: we're given that gift every time we receive the breath, 195 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: like like sunlight in and phil hold exhale. That could 196 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: be my last one, I don't know, but probably not, 197 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: because here comes another way. It's like, oh, I gotta, 198 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta stay here, like I gotta keep 199 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, chopping wood and carrying my water and doing 200 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: the human work the topasia, the the fire, the the 201 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: work of life on earth, the human hard stuff with 202 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: by the grace of the way of this breath that 203 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: carries me to the meditation cushion or to the yoga 204 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: mat or you know, to the soup kitchen into the prisons. Um. 205 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: It carries us, it takes us, it's our vehicle. And 206 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: the more you know, in in the Great Contract to Tradition, UM, 207 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: we talk about the breath as UM like solar and 208 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: lunar energies coming together, right, which in yoga the hot 209 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: the yoga means sun moon, Yoga means union or unified 210 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: field of freedom of liberation, right, and we talk about 211 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: UM those oppositional energies coming together and creating UM, you know, 212 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: an inner climate where we're we find we cultivate this 213 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: this peacefulness within us so that we actually have the 214 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: space to tolerate the mayhem and the chaos and the 215 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: madness of the world. You know, especially you know in 216 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: these times UM, where so much as dying and being 217 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: discombobulated and falling apart, there's so much loss and so 218 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: much grief, and simultaneously there's this consciousness rising this you know, 219 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: we we were becoming more aware that we literally are 220 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: beings of light, you know, not to um kick darkness 221 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: out of the bed. You know, we bring in the night, 222 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: we bring in the moon energy as well, and especially 223 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: during the winter season, you know, lay a pandemic on 224 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: top of the winter, you know, quarantining illness, this ease, 225 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: we need so much more rest to kind of wrap 226 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: in our warm comforters with warm tea and rest and 227 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: slow down. And you know meditating, you know is meditation 228 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: is one of the eight limbs of Patanjals eight limbs 229 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: system of yoga, which you know in America, so many 230 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: people signing up for two teacher trainings and five dur 231 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: three hundred hour these teacher trainings, and so you learn 232 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: that there are actually eight limbs of yoga and asana 233 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: which is which literally translates to seat, which all the 234 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: posture flow leads us to the seat where we darna. 235 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: We begin to focus our energies and by grace we 236 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: are delivered dropped off in meditation or you know, a 237 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: state of somebody. You know, there are many levels and 238 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: states of somebody or the absorbed stay eight. And you know, 239 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: so in the West we have, as we do in 240 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: the West, we over emphasize the outer. So starting with 241 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: the body going just walking into a yoga class. You know, 242 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: if there's a if there's a teacher that's connected internally, 243 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: he or she is going to invite you to breathe. 244 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 1: Here we are back to the breath, the starting point 245 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: of reconnecting within ourselves, which that relationship and cultivating that 246 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: intimate relationship expands our capacity to remember to return to 247 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: that place over and over and over in the course 248 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: of a day of an ordinary day, going about our business, 249 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: running errands, you know, going for work, going for a 250 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: lunch appointment, going for happy hour, you know, calling the plumber. 251 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: It it starts to welcome us. We remember more often 252 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: they say, you know, the great stage, just say the 253 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: highest yoga is. Remember to remember it's like, oh what 254 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: is that? Remember to remember what it's like. Oh breathe pause, 255 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: exhale to the bottom, bottom, bottom of the exhale. Wait 256 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: wait wait not no, not no, not no. Breath comes in, listening, 257 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 1: feeling and responding. You know, and and we we, you know, 258 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: we we That quality of peacefulness begins to emanate into 259 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: our relationships, whether they're intimate, whether it's our beloved it, 260 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: our husband, our wife, our girlfriend, boyfriend, um are intimate friendships, 261 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: our casual friendships, our work friendships, um our communities, you know, family, community, 262 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: global relationship, nation to nation. You know, it's like this 263 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: makes a difference our little individual, small little speck of 264 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: a life can add to a love more loving existence 265 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: and hopefully raising our consciousness to care for our minds 266 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: and our bodies and our spirits and each other. You 267 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: know in a way that that's rebalancing through this really 268 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: intense dark time. So I you know me, I'm a 269 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: little bit of a meditation converter, you know, preacher woman, 270 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a kind of a music minister. My 271 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: daddy was a met to dis minister, um civil rights activists. Anyway, 272 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: I know now I'm seguing, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm 273 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: gonna serve the ball. This is how I get I'm like, 274 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: don't get me started. Well, I want to just touch 275 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: on something because this is I think one of the 276 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: biggest um realizations that I've had about breathing. But I 277 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, you know, like I feel like I have 278 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: a lot of knowledge because I've done so much work 279 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: around certain topics and would I have realized over the 280 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: last year, um just after Like, I think I just 281 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: had a lot of traumas happened, and I think a 282 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: lot of people like you said, have had that experience 283 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years and I remember coming 284 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: to you the first time and not even realizing how 285 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: much you know. I was trying to tell you my story. 286 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm just like the talking. I'm like, here, here's what's happening, 287 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: and and again, I'm stuck in my mind and I'm 288 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: stuck in that quote unquote knowledge that I know, and 289 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: you invited me to pause and breathe. And what I 290 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: didn't realize and how basic this sounds is I was 291 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: just walking around holding my breath all the time. And 292 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: I still catch myself doing that a lot, especially in 293 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: times where my life is chaotic, or I'm having a 294 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: hard conversation, or I'm scared, or I'm going through pain. 295 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: You know, like, there's a lot of moments where I'll 296 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: just finally kind of be able to connect back with 297 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: my body and get out of my head for a 298 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: second because of the things that you've taught me, and 299 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, my body is clenched. It's 300 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: just like tight, it's it's I don't know that I'm 301 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: breathing obviously because I'm alive, but I'm not really breathing 302 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: through my body. And so essentially what that ends up 303 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: feeling like is being majorly blocked. And one of the 304 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: other things you always say to me is is love present? 305 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: You asked me that question over and over and over, 306 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: and when I'm in my fear, um or I'm coming 307 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: to you with a problem, it's the first thing I 308 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: forget about what is happening within my body, what is 309 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: happening in my soul, is that love is present at 310 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: all times. And for me to be able to give 311 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: that away, I have to be in my body, in 312 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: my breath, in my heart and connected to that to 313 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: be able to offer it to anyone else or to 314 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: the world in general. UM. And so that is what 315 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: it's done for me, and also what I think I 316 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: would want to say to the listeners that maybe are 317 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, here we go talking about a yoga 318 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: and woo woo ship and like, you know, just like, 319 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: let's go meditate. Of course that's what she's bringing. I'm like, 320 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: it's so much more than that. And I don't think 321 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: that we do ourselves, um any favors by trying to 322 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: just knowledge for the mind without connecting it to the body, 323 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: because that's what I've done for many years, and UM, 324 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: I still repeat the same patterns because of it, because 325 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't connect to my love and my inner knowing 326 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: in the same capacity that I do when I connect 327 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: with my breath. I actually found this this article on 328 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: Yoga body dot com that I wanted to ask you about, 329 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: but it said you can go for weeks without food, 330 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: days without water, but only a few minutes without breathing. 331 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Breathing has such an immediate impact on your mind and 332 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: body that even the act of inhaling versus x exhaling 333 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: affects your nervous system differently. It's common to train and diet, exercise, 334 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: and even hydration, but almost no one trains their breath, 335 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: which is a huge missed opportunity for health seekers. So 336 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: they were just talking and they go through then you 337 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: know all the different things that breathing does to your 338 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: blood pH and like alkalining your body, um, just your 339 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: nervous system in general, your digestion, which you always asked 340 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: me about. And we do a lot of yoga movements 341 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: and breathing to kind of help with that, because that's 342 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: another thing that really gets blocked for me when I'm 343 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: gripping and holding onto stuff, um, the rapid pulse breathing. 344 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: Like last night, I was having an intense conversation. I 345 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: realized I was holding my breath doing the thing, and 346 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: my heart was like just beating, beating, beating, beating, beating, 347 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: and I had to stop and I like, literally, hear 348 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: your voice, is love present? Is love present? And I 349 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: just breathe in all the fear that I'm feeling and 350 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: breathe out love because it is present within me. UM. 351 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: It talks about just in in reducing insomnia, stress, anxiety, overwhelmed. UM. 352 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: So anyway, I just I guess again, the question is 353 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: is not how important is breathing because we're seeing this, 354 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: but the nervous system in general is so affected by 355 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: all of this stuff. How have we missed this point? 356 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: You know, like why are we us now getting or 357 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: why am I just now getting to the place where 358 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you know what might be important to 359 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: do is breathe? Why is that in our culture? Yeah, 360 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: that's a great question. You know. UM takes us a while, 361 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: It takes a while to wake up, and sometimes outer 362 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: circumstances and our suffering levels have to get high enough 363 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: where we want it, where we feel like we're gonna 364 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: die if we don't find a different way to be 365 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: in our bodies in our minds and in our lives. 366 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: M Um. It's kind of the human journey, you know, 367 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: it's like it's got to get bad enough where we 368 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: want to make a change and we actually become willing, 369 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're not just unconscious in our old patterns 370 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: which can sabotage our our health and our vitality and 371 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: our deep sense of well being. And it's gotten to 372 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: that point. Outer the outer world really, you know, the 373 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: devastation out there, you know, along with climate change and 374 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: the earth changes, and you know, all of that you 375 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: know adds to our fear, you know, and fear you know, 376 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: creates contraction. Like you you've mentioned several times, the tightness, 377 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: the constriction and when you know, when the fight or 378 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: flight response you know, from the reptilian brain starts firing, 379 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, our survival we're in survival brain survival mode. 380 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: Everything contracts and the nervous system is activated, the adrenals, 381 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: that kidneys, everything's on full on activation. And sometimes we're 382 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: aware of that and sometimes we're not. We just keep 383 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: on going. We just on our devices and just push 384 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: through and have a few more cocktails and you know 385 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: what not to dis cocktails. But you know, you know, 386 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: what I mean, We've got all of our favorite ways 387 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: to medicate fear. I don't know, you know that that constriction. 388 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: So when life presents itself in such a way that 389 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: we can't manage our unconsciousness anymore, we can't stay unconsciousness. 390 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: We start reaching out, you know, whether it's to a 391 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: friend or Google, or you know, the search, the flame 392 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: and the heart kind of starts waking up internally and 393 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: then we're led. You know, our life becomes following this 394 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: bread crumb or having this discussion with this friend who 395 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: tells us about this person, and and um, you know 396 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: the the basic components of breath. You know, it's however 397 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: you slice it, most likely it's going to be helpful 398 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: because it's not like we're not breathing. If we're not breathing, 399 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: we're dead. We're not here. Okay, So what's the difference 400 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: unconscious breathing or conscious breathing. And when we bring in 401 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: that consciousness that's self aware of humans is humans are 402 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: the only species that we have this self reflective capability. 403 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: We can reflect back upon ourselves, and that's consciousness. So 404 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: we we go, Oh, so I'm gonna designate seven minutes 405 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: to sit on my map and practice conscious breathing. And 406 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: then if we do that, that builds to ten minutes 407 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: and it starts to that that space of peacefulness, just 408 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: the quality of peacefulness begins to spread into our lives. 409 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: So we want, we want more, like it awakens the 410 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: longing in our heart for for more. You know, the 411 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: boxes and the sufis and the ecstatic is sticks talk 412 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: about you know the intensity of this longing Roomy and 413 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: Haffy's and Robbie you read some of that poetry. I mean, 414 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: even contemporary writers like David White and Mary Oliver you 415 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: read this, and it's this longing and the immersion in 416 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: the natural world and realizing that this life is more 417 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: than what we focus our eyes on out here. And 418 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: the big transformation, the big change, the turnaround, is that 419 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: we stop looking out here two doctors and healers. And 420 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: not to say we don't need our helpers. We do, 421 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: but the helpers that are worth their salt and their 422 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: paychecks are helping us access that within ourselves. And so sometimes, 423 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, our lives have to get painful enough and 424 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: hard enough where we're just like, holy shit, something's got 425 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: to change, you know, and who can help me? Because 426 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't have a clue that humbling moment where we 427 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: realize this way, this old way, is not working for 428 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: me any longer. I'm dying, you know, and maybe I 429 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: got cancer, maybe I got COVID, maybe you know whatever. 430 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: The you know, disease begins, you know, in the subtle body. 431 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: And then eventually, if we don't tend to it, you know, 432 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: the tension or constriction is a great indicator that I 433 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: need to pay some internal attention to myself to feel 434 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: and ask, to breathe and feel and ask and wait 435 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: and listen, receive that guidance from within, and we start 436 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: to trust that process more and it becomes you know, 437 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: it weaves itself into our ordinary day as well as 438 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: into our extraordinary peak cosmic experiences that you know occasionally 439 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: we have um out in the jungle somewhere or you know, 440 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: in our living room or so it really you know, 441 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: we need each other. We we and love really um 442 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, unconditional love that the vibration of love is. 443 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, as we keep practicing, you know, we we 444 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: with the help we develop some sort of people calling 445 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: spiritual practices or yoga practices or whatever. Um, but we 446 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: can we stay with it. You know, we get bored. 447 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: It's like this ship is not working anymore. I'm gonna 448 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: do something out. You know. It's like once we get 449 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: it that that coming to the same spot every day 450 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: or twice a day begins to build a charge in 451 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: a certain area. And sometimes even if the mind is 452 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: still going and going, but if we remember to bring 453 00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: some consciousness to the breath and conscio business with the exhale, 454 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: consciousness inhale and you know, even playing with resting or 455 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: pausing in those gaps now down there at the bottom 456 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: of the exhale and simply noticing. It's like it's all 457 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: happens by grace. We bring our intention, you know, that's 458 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 1: really that's our GPS, that's our inner GPS, is the 459 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: fire of our longing in our heart. And maybe it's 460 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: just to feel better or to you know, just really simple. 461 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be some elaborate intention for you know, 462 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: to turn into an earth angel. But you know they're everywhere. 463 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: We run into them chicken our groceries out or you know, 464 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: they're we you know, we're out there and we're in here. Yeah, 465 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I was just having this thought as you were speaking. 466 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: But one of the things that comes up to me 467 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: comes up for me. When I do the work either 468 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: with you or the stuff you've taught me, and I 469 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: take it home to myself. Is I can connect back 470 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: into my body enough to go this too shall pass. 471 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: So no matter what's happening in my life, it's like 472 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: that moment of this pain is okay. It's teaching me something. 473 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: It is usually bringing me to some new awareness or 474 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: new um practice in my life, and life is okay 475 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: with pain. I think we live in this culture that's 476 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: just like no no, no, no pain, and if you 477 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: get to a place of pain, you want to medicate 478 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: it away. And I'm just as guilty as everyone else 479 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: with that because I don't want any pain in my life. 480 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: And so we we each find our different medicators or 481 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: jobs of choice for that or whatever it is. And 482 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: I think it's really been an important part of my 483 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: process lately to realize the pain. It's the pain serves 484 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: a purpose and it's here and I'm gonna be okay, 485 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: Like the pain isn't gonna kill me. Love is still present. 486 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm still breathing um and settling into that calmness amongst 487 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: the storm is sort of one of the things that um, 488 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: the breathing has like brought me to or can bring 489 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: me back to, even within my day, you know, Like 490 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: like I said, it's like I have this voice of 491 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: yours in my head all the time now, and so 492 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: even when I'm going about my day, it's just is 493 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: love present. Or I'll feel my body get so anxious 494 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize how much I'm even walking around 495 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: just day to day doing that. And I love what 496 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned about, like we in the Western culture just 497 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: looks so much to these external things, like even yoga, right, Like, 498 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: let's go to a yoga class, and for me, it's 499 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: like a hot yoga class that does help because of breathing, 500 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: but it's also like, oh, it's just gonna make I'm 501 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: the sweat a bunch and I'm gonna get really toned 502 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: to and it becomes about that a lot of times 503 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: more then, like the modern day yoga classes that we 504 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: do a lot of times can become more about that 505 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: at than the internal things that we could be learning 506 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: from yoga. So you mentioned baka yoga. Will you explain 507 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: to people the difference of the different types of yoga? Sure, 508 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: I mean, according to the Vedas, the Vedas are you know, 509 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: ancient scripture over five thousand years old. Of course there's 510 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: the Tuntras also that are a little bit newer. But 511 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: according to the Vedas, there are four paths of yoga. 512 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: One is rudge Ruga yoga, the king of yoga, and 513 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: under that um path of yoga Hatha yoga potales eight limb, 514 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: which da da da da falls into, you know, asana posture. 515 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: You know, within that system of yoga. You know, they 516 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: talk about the five sheets or layers, right which you 517 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: and I have talked about. And the physical body is 518 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: the outer layer, which is a good place to start, 519 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: the food body, and then it goes all the way, 520 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, the the automakosa or the food body, physical body, 521 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: and then the mind emotion prana body actually prana maya 522 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: kosia which is the subtle body, the breath body which 523 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: is people heard of chakras and the pathways where breath travels. 524 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: That's the prana my ekosia and motto maakosia the mind 525 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: emotion layer, and Yana maya kosha which is the higher 526 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: intelligence layer. And the jiva the diva the individual, or 527 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: just before that is the anandama kosia which is the 528 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: bliss body. So it's like layers of an onion. So 529 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: the physical body is a great place to start, but 530 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: it's an entry door, you know, to the to our 531 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: sovereign source center. Okay, so that's roga yoga means keen, right, 532 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: and then um there is uh yana yoga, which is 533 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 1: the yoga of knowledge, which you know, there's so many 534 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: beautiful yogic and toun trick scriptures to study. Swat Hia 535 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: is called self study and to you know, just immerse 536 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: ourselves in the study of it. That that helps brighten 537 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: the mind, you know, it helps alcomize from the egoic 538 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: I know this, I know this to the you know, 539 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: leads us to the higher levels of intelligence. That's more 540 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 1: that intuitive, that wisdom flowing. So yan yan yoga karma yoga, 541 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: which is karma's action, the service yoga of service. So 542 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: in a way, you know, nothing doesn't get to fit 543 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: in that category. You know, no work is more holy 544 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: than another work if we're offering it in sincerity to 545 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: to divine, to love. You know, some people don't relate 546 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: to the word God or divine or goddess and whatever 547 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: works for you, you know, tenderness some love doesn't work 548 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: for everybody either, because then it's like, you know, they're 549 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: all their attachments and human betrayals and heartbreak comes into 550 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: that and which all needs love and tension. And then 551 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: buckty back to yoga is the yoga of it's devotional. 552 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: Yoga's the yoga of love. And in bak To Yoga, 553 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: we do a lot of singing and we do a 554 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: lot of dancing. And that's why I love it. You know, 555 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: I grew up with being a musician and dancing and 556 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: theater and playing all the the creative ways to express 557 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 1: this life. And you know that's another reason people come 558 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: and have sessions with me, you know, because I have 559 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: a block and my writer's block, or I I wanna 560 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: really heel in my voice, you know, and become more 561 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: comfortable and settled with this sound, this voice that comes 562 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: for me that people have told me don't sing out loud, 563 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: like keep it in the shower or you know, there's 564 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: so much wounding around our innate gifts, and you know 565 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: that's where that outer can become a little you know, 566 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: more wounding, and we reconnect with the inner and it 567 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: helps us go well, I'm just you know, I'm just 568 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,479 Speaker 1: human and I am so imperfect. And sometimes I sing 569 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: and I sound like a squawky mouse. And sometimes the 570 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: sound comes and it sounds like angels, you know, trumpeting 571 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: in the heavens, you know, and it you know, people 572 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: come for some healing around this, you know. So and 573 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: also body image, you know, dancing and moving and um. 574 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: It helps from the inside to realize whatever shape my 575 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: body is in is the way it is, and love 576 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: can move through that. When I take a deep breath, 577 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: even though I've carried years of self judgment and you know, 578 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: my body is not this. And the way we compare 579 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: with better singers and actors and models and the you know, 580 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: the the entertainment industry, you know, our idols, and you know, 581 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: the Bakti yoga helps helps to cultivate the inner longing, 582 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: inner heart for that merger with God in life. And 583 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: we use mantras in Bukta yoga. Mantra basically m a 584 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: n means mind and tra means traverse, travel, transcend, deliver, 585 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: liberate the small self mind, alcomizing into pure consciousness and 586 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: the and the mind that we're all connected to, you know, 587 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: the one mind, one heart, you know. Back to Bob Marley, 588 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: Bob and Ziggy. You know, love is my religion and 589 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: not in a harm hallmark airy fairy way or you know, 590 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: um spiritual bypas you know, bypassing our pain, because really 591 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: it is, as you say, through our pain, our pain 592 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: actually becomes like a portal if as we become willing, 593 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: and we need helpers for this because the reptilian brain 594 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 1: wants to jack us into fight or flight away from 595 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: danger or hurt. And some of that's really valid. You know. 596 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 1: It's like if a bear is chasing us, we might run, 597 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 1: We might run up a tree or find some other way, 598 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, because sympathetic parasympathetic nervous system gets activated in 599 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: that way. And there we do need techniques and we 600 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: have to practice techniques to realize, oh, I'm actually safest 601 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: inside here, rather than averting or running away from the pain. 602 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: It's like, oh ouch, whether it's a pain in the 603 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: knee or a physical pain it's already you know, in 604 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: the hip, or a headache, or whether it's you know, 605 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 1: our mother just dot, whether it's huge devastating grief loss, 606 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: a breakup of a boyfriend, emotional pain, mental pain, you know, 607 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: and there's a beautiful I think you and I have 608 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: practiced UM, an ancient meditative technique called tong land t 609 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: o n g l e n and the Buddhists, there 610 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: are many Buddhist teachers that teach this very effective alchemical 611 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: meditation is pretty simple basically, you know, my teacher, one 612 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: of my teachers, teaches it called UM receiving and and 613 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: and giving, you know, to breathing into our own pain, 614 00:42:50,760 --> 00:43:01,959 Speaker 1: into the thick claustrophobic, sticky ick, and breathing out spaciousness light. 615 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: We start with our own pain, and then we have 616 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: a friend that's suffering from cancer or from heartbreak or 617 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: for whatever, and we bring that being in front of 618 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: us in sincerity, and we breathe their pain into our 619 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: own pain, dark, into our own dark, and we exhale 620 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: spaciousness light, and suddenly, you know, this is the alchemy. 621 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: And then groups of people immigrants the earth. You know, 622 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: we can get as big and global and cosmic with it, 623 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: or as teeny tiny as I just stubbed my freaking 624 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: toe and it's killing me. We just breathe into it 625 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: instead of running away from it, and then it swells 626 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: and don en, if we breathe right into it, I 627 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: bet you I find that the healing happens so much quicker. Yeah, 628 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: so it's a great and it's a lifelong cray. This 629 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: just's not like, oh my got this minute, we were like, 630 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: oh I got this. The boy we've we've said, we've 631 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: we've lost it. Basically, that's in my experience for sure. 632 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: I want to quickly touch on the bat you you 633 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: brought up singing and dancing, and recently, um, my friend 634 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: Mary and I came to a workshop you were doing 635 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: over a weekend and we were laughing with you about, 636 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, if our friends could see what we 637 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: are doing. I mean, we're literally in this room with 638 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: random people we've never met, chanting and dancing around the room. 639 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: And you know, there's two ways that can go. I 640 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of us really want to kind of 641 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: clench up and be like, it's really hard to let 642 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: your body just flow, and and you know, I think 643 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: we can all kind of be like this is silly 644 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 1: or I feel silly, I feel ridiculous, and we hold 645 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: ourselves back. And one of the beautiful things about just 646 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: releasing yourself to whatever it is, to the chanting, to 647 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: the dancing, it is true freedom when you do. And 648 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: it's like the most um authentic I think I ever feel, 649 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: because there's just like there's no walls, you know. UM. 650 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: But you've taught me a little bit about with the 651 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: chanting and the reason a lot of religions even practice 652 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: this is the vibration and our body that it brings. 653 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: And we always in practices at your house with ohms 654 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 1: and all of the things that you know, maybe Western 655 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: society makes a little woo woo, but it is a 656 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: part of getting back in your body. And dance is 657 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: a part like you know, the moving the flow of 658 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: our breath through our body. And um. Also just for me, 659 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: it's realizing what movement does. So can you speak to 660 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: that why those two things are so important, um, and 661 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: why you incorporate those into your practices or what you've 662 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: learned from them. Thank you for that question. Yeah, I 663 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: mean so many of our indigenous cultures, like if we 664 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: start tracking where did we come from and Indian lineage, lineage, 665 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 1: African Aboriginal, um, we start going back to the more 666 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: earth based cultures in history, we find that this sounding 667 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: or calling or singing, chanting, UM dancing grouped at the 668 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: Polynesian cultures. You know, you think hula dancing you know, 669 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: and you think of the of the little you know, 670 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,479 Speaker 1: hula skirts, but if you really go into it, these 671 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 1: are transformational ways of joining together in community to grieve 672 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: and to celebrate. And as we will find out, you know, 673 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: in the course of our journeys, there's a very fine 674 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: line between grief and joy. It's actually just two sides 675 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: of the same energy, right, Only the grief and the 676 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: losses are But we will tend to push that away 677 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: with the pain category, and we'll gravitate towards the joy side, 678 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: the positive side, which can lead to extreme addictive patternings. Right. So, 679 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, we we take our clues um and our 680 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: hints from those earth based um lineages. And the Bakti 681 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: tradition is no different than that, you know, the Sufis, 682 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, the mystical traditions of all the major religions 683 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: on Earth incorporate some measure of singing, chanting, sounding, calling, 684 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: um zicker, moving move movement with sound, you know, and 685 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: it joins us. It reconnects us to our source center within, 686 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: It reconnects us with each other. It re establishes our 687 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: connection in family and community, and extends to all of life, 688 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 1: that which is and and it's freaking fun, I mean, 689 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: and it's can be terrifying and embarrassing because we're so 690 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: self conscious. Because, like I said, in our developmental in 691 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: the you know, Western world and our you know, nuclear 692 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: families were taught that this is okay, and this is presentable, 693 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: and this is not okay, and this is not presentable. 694 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: And you'll see, you know, lots of retreats and workshops 695 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: on rewilding and you know, shaking that stelf off. And 696 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: it's not so easy. I mean, those deep self conscious 697 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: patterns are based in trauma and wound woundedness, so we 698 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: actually have to begin to enter our own pain in 699 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: order for that alchemy to heal. And being willing to 700 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: just be foolish and play. When we were five, did 701 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: we go Well, if I moved my hips like that, 702 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: I might you know, that person might not like me. 703 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, we don't. We just we roll and we tumble, 704 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: and it's like that's how the Resh's did. That's how 705 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: the early stages came up with the triangle pose and 706 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: upward dog and downward dog. They in their ecstatic states 707 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: of just rolling around, their playful states, you know, they 708 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,919 Speaker 1: came these poses and things were presented. So in my 709 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: experience that singing and dancing um in you know, under 710 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: the auspices of back to yoga, and I know in 711 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: my own personal life, you know, with theater and dance 712 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: and music and those early you know, as a little 713 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: girl hitting a point where it's like, oh, I gotta 714 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: be the best a this or I'm gonna die or 715 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: I won't have love, I won't have you know, and 716 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: the competition and comparison aspect of going into the those fields, 717 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: the creative fields, which turns into the entertainment industry, can 718 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: be so wounding that we just we shut down on 719 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: ourselves and we go, you know, get really really small, 720 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: and you know, anyway, so it it's a it's an 721 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,720 Speaker 1: incredible way to wake up and be together and and 722 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: rejoice in you know, our losses and our successes, and uh, 723 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: it really is. We just keep doing it. You know, 724 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: we're embarrassed. We feel oh my god, you know, because 725 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: we've been embarrassed, we've been humiliated. We've had teachers that 726 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: call us out if we got the answer wrong. And 727 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: we all have these kind of perfectionist structures in us 728 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: that that keep us hiding and holding back for fear 729 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: of being not being loved and not getting what we 730 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: need to to plump out and just like be, just 731 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: like I am. So it's a it's a wonderful way 732 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: to to to cultivate our creative energy, you know. And 733 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: sound if we go back to some of the creation stories, 734 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: you know, the Big Bang, and I mean it's all 735 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 1: you know, silent sound, stillness, movement. You know, those opposites 736 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,919 Speaker 1: along you know that fall to either side or about 737 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: the life cycle, the birth, maintenance, sustaining, and death, destruction, 738 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: dissolving back to the earth into winter, spring, summer, fall, winter. 739 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: Here we are, you know. I love that. I could 740 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: listen to you talk all day. It's so calming to me. 741 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: Um well, I think you know this, but I want 742 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: everyone to come see you obviously, and I'm like this, 743 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 1: I can't say it enough how much working with you 744 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: has changed my journey And so thank you because I 745 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: do believe you have a gift. I think you're one 746 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: of the most special people I've ever met. And um 747 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,879 Speaker 1: and you use it to help people, which is why 748 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,760 Speaker 1: I just I'm like, everyone goes see Amy good. But 749 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: um so if people are listening, and I know not 750 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: everyone is in Nashville, so they won't be able to 751 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: come to your house like I do. But if they 752 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: would want to find you and and maybe even start 753 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: a journey into this kind of practice, where can they 754 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: find you? Yeah? Um, my yoga website is Amy Barnes 755 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: Yoga dot com, A M Y B A R N 756 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 1: E S yoga dot com and so my email Amy 757 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 1: at Amy Barnes yoga dot com. Great way to reach 758 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: out to me. Um, if you need to buy a house, 759 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm also a realtor. I just say my move move 760 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: Gracefully dot com is how I pay for all this anyway, 761 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: It's all about finding home right within, so that Move 762 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: Gracefully just sort of integrates the yoga and real estate. 763 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 1: But and you know, in the pandemic times, I'm I'm 764 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: actually since this last variation, I'm actually seeing clients on 765 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: Zoom again. So yeah, uh so I'm definitely available for 766 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 1: sixty seventy five or ninety minute individual sessions on Zoom 767 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: right now. Um, when the weather gets warm, if you're local, 768 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: I have a beautiful I live on a couple of 769 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,720 Speaker 1: acres here in Kingston Springs, Tennessee. It's really beautiful, and 770 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: as you know, I like to have sessions on my 771 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: screen court so you can hear the water and the 772 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: birds and the the elements are supporting and you know, 773 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: providing all the background music to our healing sessions. So 774 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 1: um yeah, yeah so. And I just want to say 775 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: this to people because I believe that I was a 776 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: person like I said, when you know, everyone's like, oh, 777 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: go meditate whatever. I just I'm like so annoyed by 778 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: it mostly more than anything. And I've tried for years 779 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 1: to really find a practice that helped me. Um. And 780 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: so if it sounds the stuff we've talked about sounds 781 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: weird to anyone listening, I get it. I just want 782 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 1: to say that it's very weird. It is weird, right, 783 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: And it's like, Oh, I'm gonna go sit on some 784 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 1: lady's porch and chant. And I'm like, now to the 785 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,959 Speaker 1: place where I'm like, can't wait to go do that. 786 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: But what I want to say is, if you are 787 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: a person who has anxiety, who is processing anything, who 788 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: has bumped up against some trauma because of all of 789 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 1: the stuff we've been through the last couple of years, 790 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: taking time to breathe and maybe learn how to have 791 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: a practice within yourself with your own breath is something 792 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: that has truly changed my life. So if you're at 793 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: the place where you're like, I don't know what I need, 794 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 1: but I am open and willing go try this and 795 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,720 Speaker 1: see if it's something that works for you. I highly 796 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,760 Speaker 1: recommended it has, like I said, changed my life. So yes, 797 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,320 Speaker 1: thank you, We love it, Kelly. So much love and 798 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 1: so grateful for you and your beautiful work in the 799 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: world and sharing your bright light with all of our friends, 800 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: with our community and beyond. So I appreciate you so much, 801 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: and thank you for inviting me to this moment, to 802 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: this time. So thank you for sharing with us. I 803 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:43,919 Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. Yeah, alright, sweetheart, Okay, by now, 804 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. Thanks for listening to 805 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 1: the Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, where we believe 806 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: everyone has a little velvet and a little edge. Subscribe 807 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: for more conversations on life, style, beauty and relationships. Search 808 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: Velvet's Edge wherever you get your podcast fast