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Speaker 1: Well, man, what's up this way up with Angela Yee

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Speaker 1: and Alisa dik is here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming through the way up.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I know it's also Ramadan, so I know you're fasting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right now you feel clear headed?

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Speaker 3: Yeah for the most part, for the most part, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: struggling through this first round of this first days. First

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Speaker 3: day is alreadys the struggle. Afterday, I'm pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Then it gets easier, yeah for you.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I got to start this off

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Speaker 1: by saying congratulations when I say independent on the comedy scene,

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Speaker 1: pulling in those numbers, putting other comedians on. Also, I

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Speaker 1: just have to commend you for that because I know

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Speaker 1: how hard that is to even build up that type

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Speaker 1: of organic fan base.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much. You know, it's been been

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Speaker 3: a long twenty eight years. Yeah, so we've been working

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Speaker 1: No, but still, I mean, honestly, like, there's comedians who

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Speaker 1: I know have been working for decades and to achieve

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Speaker 1: what you've achieved. And still you know, I saw you

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Speaker 1: did an interview recently where you were talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: being independent, staying independent and certain deals like you don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's something behind the scenes, a reason why

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Speaker 1: things aren't happening, but maybe it's for the best, I.

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Speaker 3: Think so, you know, for the most part, I think

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Speaker 3: that because I'm not getting certain deals, I don't owe

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Speaker 3: anybody anything. And so that's the biggest part of you know,

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Speaker 3: captain of my own ship. I don't have to endorse

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Speaker 3: things that I don't want to endorse. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to have to show up places that I don't want

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Speaker 3: to show up. You know. I used to have to

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Speaker 3: do that when I was in radio. I would show up,

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Speaker 3: you know, and have to do reads or things that

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Speaker 3: I didn't really agree with. And I'm like, okay, you

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Speaker 3: say no to doing to read. It would be you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know you're not gonna be there long.

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Speaker 2: Because if you turn stuff down, it's.

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Speaker 3: Constantly turning down reads Like I don't want to read that.

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Speaker 2: I would say that I won't do.

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Speaker 1: And I think they know, like there's certain things if

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Speaker 1: Like I don't need I've never like I don't need

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Speaker 1: pork at all. If I'm trying to, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: promote something that's like a pork product, people and be like,

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Speaker 1: Angela is.

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Speaker 3: Not and then I would read deeper into the product.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, this this has porking. No, it don't

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Speaker 3: what you think lard is.

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Speaker 2: You think they going wrong, but everything got pork in it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it seemed like it, you know, gelatin's

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Speaker 3: you know, depends on what they're using, but we managed

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Speaker 1: I used to work for Wu Tang and everything. They

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Speaker 1: would be like, you know that makeup has pork in it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's skittles like everything. Yeah, listen. I remember

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Speaker 1: being around them and then being mad when people had

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Speaker 1: any type of pork products on set, even if it

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Speaker 3: They was wild. Yeah. I just wouldn't show. I just

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Speaker 3: you know, because they make a lot of halal stuff.

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Speaker 3: Now you know, my kids have experienced gummy bears and

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Speaker 3: all these. They used to see them and marshmallows. They

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Speaker 3: just just seeing I'm like, no, you can't have that.

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Speaker 2: Then they're like, look the ingredients, and then we go.

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Speaker 3: To halal spots and they have marshmallw we be like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, won't he do it? Uh? Now?

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you this, Have you learned how

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Speaker 1: to be more of uh?

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Speaker 2: Do it yourself? Fix your type of guy in the home.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty good now. Okay, I'm pretty good. I was

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Speaker 2: Good now because I feel like it's so important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you have a house, you know you you

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Speaker 3: want to fix stuff. You don't want to always call people.

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Speaker 2: For stupid little things.

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Speaker 1: Right, but you know now we have task rabbits, so

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Speaker 1: you could just use an app and it's like something small.

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Speaker 3: I don't use. I don't. It's crazy. I don't use

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Speaker 3: the most apps. Like people ask me, have I seen

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Speaker 2: You know how I know you because nobody really says

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't do it, Like I don't do it.

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Speaker 3: I put stuff up on my page, but outside of that,

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Speaker 1: No, you don't use Uber. You don't like get food.

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Speaker 1: I do Live, Okay, you do that. Okay, so you

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Speaker 3: Just think that's just an app that I don't because

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Speaker 3: I don't have to surf around, I just go straight

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Speaker 3: to it. But if it's like like I've been hearing

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Speaker 3: you how to fix things, to you, I'm like, never

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Speaker 1: All right, because I know there are certain things you

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Speaker 1: can't do. So how how are you when you say

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Speaker 3: Do pretty much everything you know. If it's something wrong,

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Speaker 3: I'm either I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna call my sister. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my sister was in the Navy, so she know how

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Speaker 1: You know, how to build a fort, the relationship that

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Speaker 2: It felt like she always was like a few steps

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Speaker 3: She older than me. So she's two years old than me.

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Speaker 3: You stay right around the corner from me, like literally,

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Speaker 2: Did y'all always get along? Grown up?

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Speaker 1: Because I know me and my my brother was a

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Speaker 3: I think me and my sister fought once I was six,

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Speaker 3: that ain't the way to go. But she she did

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Speaker 3: something to me first, but I was six though, But

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Speaker 3: ever since then we've been pretty good. My sister been

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Speaker 3: to my backbone for a lot of things. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: even when people don't think that were talking. My sister

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Speaker 2: She's funny also from the way that you tell stories.

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Speaker 3: No, she's not funny, man. My sister is so straightforward

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Speaker 3: So you know, she I think she feels like she's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she she feels some type of way

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because talking about family relationships. A lot of

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Speaker 1: times your stand up is great storytelling, like you could

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Speaker 1: visualize it. It feels like you're watching a TV show, right,

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Speaker 1: That's how picturesque it is. But I wonder, like when

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Speaker 1: your mom says she hears you talk about how life

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Speaker 3: She finds out when I tell on stage, but she

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Speaker 3: knows them because I I've been with my mom when

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Speaker 3: like what, And me and my sister both be like, yes,

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Speaker 3: You got dementia? But she she just is some things

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Speaker 3: They don't want to go back to the past, you know,

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Speaker 3: all the stories started when I was ten. So now

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Speaker 3: that really can't change. You know. It happened and happened,

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Speaker 3: My mom twenty with two kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom was twenty when she had my brother

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Speaker 2: and then had me right after.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like, how you you judging a twenty

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be some mistakes that were made, some

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Speaker 3: missteps and all that. But you I'm big on the

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Speaker 3: whole thing up. Everybody wants to be forgiven, but don't

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Speaker 3: nobody want to forgive. So it's like, you like, if

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Speaker 3: I've been there as well. You know you really you

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Speaker 3: don't have no clean slate, shorty. It's been some it's

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Speaker 3: you got to give grace to people, you know.

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Speaker 1: When you just talked about my two sons, I feel

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Speaker 3: They think they know Hassan Hassan. It's really Hassan's trait.

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Speaker 3: And that's funny that people want to come up after

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Speaker 3: the show and tell me that they have either a

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Speaker 3: Hassan or they have a trade.

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Speaker 1: I like bad kids, though, I think bad kids are

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Speaker 1: the funniest.

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Speaker 3: Like man, I wish I think Hassan is funnier than Trade. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because Hassan is has this naiveness to him that you know,

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Speaker 3: he just man, I'm just kicking it through. Like Hassan

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Speaker 3: is like a hippie, black hippie. He's like, but he.

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Speaker 1: Has the space I think to be that because I think,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know that Network TV would have been

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Speaker 2: Do you ever watch Unlocked?

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Speaker 1: For, because this is yeah, it wasn't nothing too crazy.

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Speaker 3: So they they had said we could go to the

434
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: fault wreck and we walked and I was walking past

435
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: and said, I'm like, man, why they got plants? Who

436
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 3: are these people with plants? And their sales was open,

437
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: and they just they was treating them like patients.

438
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: That feels crazy to me.

439
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 3: And first of all, they gonna keep them away from us,

440
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 3: because we we serve justice on that end, like we

441
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 3: we have never thought that these people were on what

442
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 3: they say it can be rehabilitated. Never We've never thought that.

443
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: And and it's things that you get into your mind

444
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 3: once you're inside that you would think, oh, I would

445
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: never do that, and then you would see it, and

446
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 3: then you start to think, man, I have a mother,

447
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: I have a daughter, I have a sister. Yo. Why

448
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 3: they going? Why is he this your like? This is

449
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 3: your fifth time in here right? Yo? Man? Why they

450
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 3: were like and in your mind you think that you

451
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't but you waiting on an opportunity like yo, man,

452
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: if if I ever ever ever get a chance run

453
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: up on money, like it's gonna be a problem it

454
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: because they It was crazy how they used to keep

455
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: them away from us. That was the whole thing that

456
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: you wouldn't even announce.

457
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: That that's a wild because I would think they would

458
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: be the ones that would have to be locked in

459
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: and I kept away from everybody.

460
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: But do you believe in a death penalty?

461
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? You do? Yes, okay, if you being fair, if

462
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: it's a if it's an honest if it's an honest thing,

463
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 3: and most people who don't believe in it have never

464
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: been been in We don't know what we don't know.

465
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 3: You don't know the people you thinking. And I don't

466
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: want to go on some injustice like oh this person

467
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: was just wrongly accused. No, we're talking about the people

468
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: who are who are doing this. So yeah, it's a

469
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: it's a thing. It's a thing. But I if you

470
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: don't believe in it, we believe in it inside. So

471
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: it all work exself. Like I remember being in Harris County.

472
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: I'm on thirteen oh one Franklin in Houston. We was

473
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: watching on the news that baby was missing. This baby

474
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 3: girl was missing. Were watching it on the news, and

475
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: then comes to find out that the boyfriend killed this baby,

476
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 3: and the sheriffs brought him to our floor, and it's

477
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: everybody wanted him to come to their particular tank where

478
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: we were. They like, everybody, we're not. This is not

479
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 3: a person that we assuming did this. It's a person

480
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: that did this. And so they I remember, they put

481
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: him on a two and it's a it's a door.

482
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: It's like like the cells and then it's a door.

483
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: The sally put door. The sheriff's closed that door and

484
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: walked off and within minutes, within minutes, they was calling

485
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: the car hold a cold blue and they wouldn't they

486
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 3: wasn't Russian. They came and then that man came out

487
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: on the stretcher.

488
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: Justice be served.

489
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you may go to the you may go

490
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 3: out to the judge. You figure out something, you plead

491
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 3: insanity or whatever, whatever your deal is, Okay, we we

492
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 3: we'll take care inside. And that's the thing, like if

493
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: you the they kept them child molessas and the rapists

494
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: away from us for a reason. Yeah, because you can't

495
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: be real, Beligi.

496
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: You said, everybody thinking about also their family members.

497
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, man, I ain't. I ain't checking for

498
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: you with that all of you was hearing voices. Well

499
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 3: you won't hear them no more. We're fixed. But but

500
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: just think I was I sold drugs, they still put me.

501
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 3: They put me with the most violent people. I ain't

502
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: no murder case. They didn't care nothing about that. But

503
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: be fair, be fair, you're gonna put everybody in. Just

504
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 3: just put everybody in.

505
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you deserve to be in jail,

506
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: because I know, like you said, a lot of a

507
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: lot of people. When you go in there, you're like,

508
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one who did something wrong. When

509
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: do you accept the fact or did you ever think

510
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: that it was unfair for you?

511
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: I didn't. I was. I was out there a while,

512
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: So what happens happened.

513
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: It's not Maybe it could have been worse if you

514
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: didn't end up it.

515
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 3: It's not like I didn't know the consequences.

516
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

517
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 3: And that's the thing when people will be always on

518
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: know what nobody's talking in the hood, man, it's odd

519
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 3: type of positive people in the hood that's gonna tip minute.

520
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: It's old men that told me a thousand times brother,

521
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: a whare you moving? Brother? You going to prison? It's

522
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: people's people my family told me, you know, what I'm saying.

523
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: It's like I wasn't oblivious to what was happening.

524
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: You know, we made a choice, so the domino effects.

525
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 3: So so I guess I thought when we was on

526
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: the block and the and the jump out boys pulled

527
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: up in advance, everybody was running for no reason because

528
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: they're innocent, Like we knew what was going on. It

529
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: ain't so why you was running. I was running cause

530
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna get caught. So it's a thing. So

531
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: you can't accept responsibility for how you doing, you know,

532
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: And it's a I tell parents, if you want to

533
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: get your kid on the right path, taken to see intake.

534
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: See that's what people need to see.

535
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: Intake.

536
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: Intake is the worst. Like I always say this, if

537
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 3: they if I would have known about intake, I'd just

538
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: I'd have justly.

539
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: Members it wasn't.

540
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: I needed to see, oh man, intake. So if you

541
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: ever read anything about slavery and how they packed slaves

542
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: in on the slavesh so that's how they pack you

543
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: in on intake and younked and they just pack you

544
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: in and you lined up they call it nothing butt

545
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: and you just packed you just packed in. And I

546
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: would have saw that, I would have lost it. I like, no,

547
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good. Here is it a place where

548
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 3: you like, you know how they turn in guns. It's

549
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: a place you can turn your dope in. Yeah, I

550
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: need to turn this in. And because I'm good, I'm

551
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 3: going like, what's crazy? I can't even say I would

552
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: go back to school. I was in school. I was

553
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: doing it because it was crazy. My all my friends

554
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 3: was in school. So it's like I didn't have nothing

555
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: to do, so I got to be in school, you know,

556
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: because my friends are there. I wasn't kicking it in

557
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: the street all day. Yeah, but you know I would

558
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 3: have never.

559
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: Would you think at that time the girls all like

560
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: the drug dealers too.

561
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: They didn't know, okay that in the in the mid eighties,

562
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: late they didn't. In the early nineties, they didn't know

563
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: what she was doing. And I had a girl who

564
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: was very scary. I came over one time with a

565
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: bulletproof vest on and she was like, my mom's I

566
00:28:53,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: can't see you no more. It's like, no, no, sir.

567
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: I like that.

568
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: And that's the I think because of the neighborhood, those

569
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: are the girls who didn't have so I always always

570
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: go back to this story that you put me in

571
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: a position when you let me into your house if

572
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: you don't have And this is why I tell fathers

573
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: people man with parents. Even if y'all not together, man,

574
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: y'all got to make a way to where you don't

575
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: put your kids at risk. So this lady in this

576
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: particular neighborhood, I was in my partner. We was paying

577
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: her rent. We paid her rent so that we could

578
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: store stuff there and be able to walk in the house.

579
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: And if we see the because it's a one way

580
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: in when we out, we see the police coming. Everybody

581
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: else had a scatter somewhere. We just go in the house.

582
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: But the sacrifice to that for her accepting that money

583
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: was basically her daughters. So I'm in high school. She

584
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: has a daughter that's eighteen, but she also has a

585
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 3: daughter that's sixteen, and then I'm seventeen. So what I

586
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: to her daughters. I'm the person that's bringing money in.

587
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: I'm the person that at this time I got a BMW.

588
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 3: So I end up at seventeen, I ended up sleeping

589
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: with both daughters. You know what I'm saying, Why wouldn't

590
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: it That's the only thing that I'm a teenage boy,

591
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: teenage girl, and I got I have money, you know

592
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So, and I'm in and out of

593
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: the house. So at one point I'm gonna date both

594
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: of them, you know what I'm saying.

595
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: What about the mom too? Now, the mom she she

596
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: with my boy.

597
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: You know, he's old, he's the older dude. But if

598
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: it was that, that could have been a situation too.

599
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: But if I would have never been in the house,

600
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: it would have never happened, you know. So that's a

601
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: that's a thing you can't you put.

602
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: She put herself and her kids in that situation.

603
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: Due to not having you know, So I stayed away

604
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: after that year. I was really on something else after that.

605
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: So you got my girlfriend is the same age as me,

606
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: stay right around the corner from where I was hustling at.

607
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: Her mom didn't play that. My mom was like, we

608
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: we were good over here, but you can't come over

609
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: here with that. But then what happened later I'm at

610
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: I'm her mom, Spade's partner, you know, we play in

611
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: Spade and her daughter going out and I'm staying over

612
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: you know, It's like I'm like I was Mexican or

613
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: something that's Mexican's movement. They family early thing. I live

614
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: in there, you know, so you can't put you know,

615
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put my kids in that position, right, you know,

616
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm I'm always be there.

617
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: You know.

618
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: My older daughter, I've been there from day one. You

619
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. She's twenty seven. So now she's

620
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: about to make me a grandfather.

621
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Oh well, congratulations.

622
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool at fifty two, crazy at fifty two,

623
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: but it's crazy that I can't even wait. You know,

624
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: I can't wait because I'm gonna have this baby everywhere.

625
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: If you had another kid, then your grandchild would be

626
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: what would that be?

627
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: The the aunt or uncle for your kid?

628
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: Right?

629
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: Is that right?

630
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: Wow?

631
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: Because you still you know, I'm still first, You're still outside, Yeah,

632
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm still outside. I have somebody that called in today

633
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: for advice, right, so I want to get it from

634
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: your point of view. We're going to play the call

635
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: and I want you to get this woman advice.

636
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: I recently started.

637
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: I was in jail girl to be his girlfriend after

638
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: like five years of friendship, and my crazy I said yes,

639
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: And I'm like, should I continue with this? Or And

640
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, what's like it's just crazy.

641
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, well, when is he come home?

642
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: Three years? Mama?

643
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: Mia real good friends, Like I can tell him anything,

644
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: but I don't. Girl, it's complicated.

645
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: Did you know him before he got locked up?

646
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: How did you meet him?

647
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: I was saying, I wanted to pinpale when I was

648
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: living in Dallas, and y'all you speaking into a distance.

649
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: So what advice would you give her? She's, you know,

650
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: been friends with this guy for five years. He asked

651
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: to be his girl. She said yeah, but she kind

652
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: of don't really. She's thinking, like when he comes home,

653
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: is this going to be a real thing. I don't

654
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: know what's going on? Putting glasses on all.

655
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: Right, this is this is the thing. Loneliness is crazy.

656
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: So even in inside, I learned this very fast because

657
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: you know, it would be female guards inside that would have,

658
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: you know, inappropriate friendships with us. And that is based

659
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: upon that was based upon. What I can offer you

660
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 3: is a listening ear if you like to talk and

661
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: I and what I can do is listen. I don't

662
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: I have the time to Whether you have a man

663
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: in the streets that don't listen, they don't have time

664
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: to listen. I have time to listen. So you're giving

665
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: me all this information in order to be able to

666
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: navigate this relationship with you. You still don't know me,

667
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: because what am I really telling you? I'm locked up

668
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: for what though? You know, dude, she doesn't know this person. No,

669
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: you know, no matter if you're a pen pile or not.

670
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: But I get it, you know, And I'm not gonna

671
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 3: judge the love. But I'm saying, is it a love

672
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: based upon.

673
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: Circumstance?

674
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: Circums says you know that you you needed somebody to

675
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: talk to, correspond with, You needed somebody to need you.

676
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Sometimes people need that somebody

677
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 3: who need them that fulfills that needing them that they

678
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: that somebody else needs them. So I would have to

679
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: know a little bit more about what he did and

680
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: how he moving in.

681
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: There, because see she didn't even know him before that

682
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: though too.

683
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: I think that's another thing.

684
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: That's a thing. And so now it would it would

685
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: be people, and not a lot of people just hearing them.

686
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: It would be somebody who was in there Moving's kind

687
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: of scandalous. And then I see them on the street,

688
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: do and I always put my mind, do I tell

689
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: this girl that he was inside being weird. But I

690
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: don't know her. I don't know her either, you know

691
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. She may have knew that I don't know.

692
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 3: But if it's a friend of mine or somebody, I know, Yo,

693
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: you no, boy was inside moving weird, like doing something different.

694
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: Really yeah, because I've seen people like that and you

695
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: were really tell oh yeah, I would tell what they

696
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: gonna do because because you wouldn't have did nothing. I

697
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: didn't mess with you in there. So when you get

698
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 3: out here, what you're gonna what you're gonna do, because

699
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: if we can take it back to what we was

700
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: doing in there. You know what I'm saying, because I'm like, yo, bro,

701
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: you know how I was, and I know how you were,

702
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: and you were moving. You were moving weed, and I

703
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: and I and I and I lean on that, like, yo,

704
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 3: you was moving weed in that well. And that's why

705
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: I don't That's why I don't speak to you. That's

706
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: why I'm like, yo, you know, boy was moving weed

707
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: in then I'm saying, but when people know me, they

708
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: know anything like he was solid. I didn't move with

709
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: people have.

710
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: Co signed your stories, you know how sometimes people tell

711
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: a story and then other people like that is not

712
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: what happened. But with you, when you tell and you talk,

713
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: everybody's like, no, he really it was really who.

714
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: Is I just I just got out of text. This

715
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: is crazy, This is crazy, right. So this brother had

716
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: hit me and he asked me, did I know somebody?

717
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: And I was like, nah, I really don't. I really

718
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: don't know him right off the top off off his

719
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 3: face like that and say just find out what what

720
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: are you talking about? And the brother was like, yo,

721
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: so this is this is looking to read the bottom

722
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: of that.

723
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: He said he.

724
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Was on the yat with you and everything that you

725
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: said on your show is toue. He was validating it

726
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: and was proud of your success.

727
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

728
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't know to see how many

729
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: people that you could have been locked up with and

730
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: see you now and they feel good, Yeah, how successful

731
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: you are.

732
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 3: Because they know how I was and there I was always.

733
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: I was really on after the first two years, because

734
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: that first two years I was wilding, like I was on.

735
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: I was on one. I was a pretty violent person.

736
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: I was tripping. You know what I'm saying.

737
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: You feel like you had to be that way though.

738
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: I don't even know I didn't even give it a

739
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: chance to know it.

740
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 4: You got it, you know.

741
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: I was wild, and like if you talking about somebody

742
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: who was wild, I was really If you ever seen

743
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: that movie, it's a movie called Penitentiary, and it was

744
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 3: like this little dude that they used to send the

745
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 3: people sales to match them up. I was really on one.

746
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: Like I was like, if you wanted to fight, like

747
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: you wanted what I'm I'm like whatever, but I remember

748
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: black Shit. This dude named black She came to me

749
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: and say, Yongster, you can't keep doing your time like this.

750
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: It's because somebody's gonna finish it. They gonna kill you.

751
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 3: I'm like and I'm like, man, whatever whatever we're talking

752
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: like Black, like, yo, man, let me let me just

753
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: talk to you Black. Cha kind of reeled me in.

754
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: And after that black sh this guy named Malik, they

755
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: kind of reeled me in. And then I noticed that

756
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: younger people, the younger guys would listen to me because

757
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: I was always the one that was trying to make sense.

758
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, what y'all got? Like, I just

759
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 3: want you all to explain it to me, Like just

760
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: before we do anything, can you explain what's about having

761
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 3: and they was like, yo, were gonna do this. I'm like, okay,

762
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: good planing. But the other plan is the other wrong

763
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: thing about this plan. It's another door back here that

764
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: they can come in. I don't know if y'all know

765
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: that or not, and they can shoot gas from this door.

766
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: So it's like, it don't make sense what you're trying

767
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: to do. And once I started gathering people and giving

768
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: them a sense of logic, you know, I stopped a

769
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: bunch of a bunch of fights, a bunch of people

770
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: like and it's the whole thing of people know, if

771
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: they was on tour REDS unit, they were like, Oh,

772
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: you gotta go to school. If you didn't go to school,

773
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: he gonna have a conversation with you, you know, and

774
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 3: the conversation is gonna be very blunt. Hey man, either

775
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 3: you're gonna go to school or you're gonna get killed

776
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: on this unit. It's only the so only two ways ago,

777
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: because what's gonna happen. You're not gonna be in school.

778
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: You're gonna be on the block. You're gonna be doing

779
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: something that you ain't got no business doing, and then

780
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: one of these people gonna kill you. Because this is

781
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: a This is a I say, contrary to pobab believe,

782
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 3: this is a death block. This is a death unit.

783
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 3: And these boys this is the same Mexican on boats.

784
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: This is the same place. So they stab. There's no

785
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: fighting here. They stab people and they stab you up

786
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: and they gonna catch you. They gonna you think you're

787
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: gonna get away, They're gonna catch you slipping.

788
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: So it could be people you just like you said, was.

789
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: Eating with that you eat man and then man, it'd

790
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: be so many moves being made that you don't see

791
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: because you own, you on what you own, but you're

792
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: not seeing. And you can't underestimate nobody. You underestimate somebody

793
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: on this unit if you go on too thinking that

794
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: they week and you was like all right, and that's

795
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: what they're gonna be, Like, okay, the.

796
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: Whole thing is like a game of chess, and you

797
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 2: better have your strategic about And.

798
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: How we how we started to navigate. We started a

799
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: reading program, you know, amongst us, not even with the unit.

800
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: It's like amongst us, like we convince people if you

801
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: can't read and you get out, the chances of you

802
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: coming back here are greater if you get out and

803
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: you don't have a trade, the chances you coming back

804
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: here is greater. So man, we all eighteen, nineteen, twenty,

805
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: twenty one, twenty two, like, is this where you want

806
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: to spend your life at? And then the guys who

807
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: are twenty two and above or some guys who are

808
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: like eighteen with life sentences, you know you have to

809
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: start living not here but free in your mind, right,

810
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: you know? That was one of the things, Like, it

811
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: was a bunch of things that I never did because

812
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: I was free in my mind after them two years

813
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: of me wild and Okay, I don't need to be

814
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 3: no prison dude, I don't need to even come out

815
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: with this type of thing. People would have never even known.

816
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 3: So when I did this show this is Not Happening,

817
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: which the story for Cop prison Rider, affectionally known as

818
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: Mexical of Boost. This is seventeen years after me doing

819
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: stand up. I had already been on HBO, I had

820
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: already been on Comic View, I'd have been on all

821
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: this stuff prior to and then I did that story.

822
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: People never knew that I was locked up proud of that,

823
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: oh wow, because I never had the locked up aura,

824
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: which and I never wanted it like when I came

825
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: when I came out, I looked like I had just

826
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: been gone and I didn't. I didn't have that prison

827
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: tag on me, and I didn't want it. And so

828
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: that's what in the shadows, the tour that's based on.

829
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: In the shadows, that's me moving without that thing. Because

830
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: when I came home, my biggest fear was somebody would

831
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: be jealous or something or something would happen, and then

832
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: they would they would call on me. And so in Texas,

833
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: when they call on you, they could come pick you up.

834
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: They put a blue one on you and come pick

835
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: you up. Now you gotta now, you gotta prove your

836
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: innocence from being locked up. You know what I'm saying.

837
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: So I didn't. I didn't want that. I was like, nah, man,

838
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: i'm moving. I'm moving a little different. I definitely didn't

839
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: move like I was a guy from President and people

840
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: who knew knew. But other than that, I didn't give

841
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: people my real name. I didn't. I didn't tell you

842
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: where I was from. If I met new people and

843
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: I was like, man, where are you from? Man, I'm Cleveland.

844
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: I don't need you to know nothing about me. Because

845
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: the jealousy is real, man, I had, and I think

846
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: me moving like that gave me a rapport with the

847
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: parole officers. I got a like six months before I

848
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: was about to get released, I got a dirty u a.

849
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. My urine came back a

850
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: cocaine and and I was like, wait a minute, did

851
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: y'all did this is? Did y'all mix my yearing up

852
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: with somebody else? So I went and got my blood

853
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 3: and my hair follicles done, and they brought me up

854
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: to the board for evaluation. And I came with all this,

855
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: with all this documents because the lady said, the chief

856
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: role officer said, we did this as routine and we

857
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 3: had to do it. I knew that you was innocent

858
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: when when we said that we were gonna give you

859
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt, and you said, I don't

860
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: want your benefit of let's because it's still doubting it.

861
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: I don't want you to, I said, because I wanted

862
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: to understand. I have a child, I have things going

863
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: on in my life. Why would I, out of out

864
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: of nowhere just go back to messing with cocaine? And

865
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: it was somebody else's you ate, they had mixed up

866
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: with you. I'm like playing because in my mind I

867
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: couldn't see going back to it. So I get off right.

868
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: I get released off pro October twenty first, two thousand

869
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 3: and seven. As I'm leaving out, all the prole officers

870
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: that I had came to watch me get released from

871
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: parole never they say they had never seen it before.

872
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: They've never seen nobody get off roll like going back.

873
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: So they come right as I'm getting my certificate and

874
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm leaving out. A dude in the day room, I

875
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: mean not the date room, the waiting room for going

876
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: to see his pro offster call me a snitch on

877
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: the way out. What don't know me? I'm talking about,

878
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: don't know me at all? To that coudn't talk about

879
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: only snitches get off parole. No, my time is up,

880
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: and I can't. For some reason, I can't wear it.

881
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: I can't wear it. I'm downstairs and I waited for

882
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: like an hour and thirty minutes in my car waiting

883
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 3: on him to come out that door. I can't. I

884
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: can't because I'm I'm free. This is a new case.

885
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 3: Come And he came and said at the bus stop,

886
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: and I went right over that bus stop. I was like,

887
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: what you say, Oh man, I'm man, I'm just I

888
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: just I won't know what you're talking about, though, I

889
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: want to know what you're talking about. But I mean,

890
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: I don't know you. I know you don't know me.

891
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You don't know what I

892
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: was in for, you know nothing. But but but now

893
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: I want to get to know you. I want I

894
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 3: won't see what you're about. You know what I'm saying,

895
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: because bro, you called me out my name and you

896
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: put a jacket on me. That on me and the

897
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: other people in there was like, no, you don't know.

898
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: You don't know him. We've been seeing him come and report,

899
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: so you don't really know him. I'm like, yeah, man,

900
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: why should you say about me though? But you will

901
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: never see me again? Or what should you say about me?

902
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: Because this could have this could have turned out way different.

903
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

904
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: But I'm not.

905
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm just getting I'm just not getting off.

906
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Imagine you walking out getting up parole and then something

907
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: else happened because I.

908
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 3: Was I was about the flip in my mind, and

909
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 3: you know, it took a lot of talking, but I

910
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 3: didn't flipped. I have flipped before and with with off

911
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 3: my note that day. I ain't gonna I ain't gonna run.

912
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: I was off my note that day. But you know,

913
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 3: you know what they say, they can't let nobody tricky

914
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: out the spot it. I was tight, I'm tight, was

915
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: gonna make you tight. But he just thought he thought

916
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 3: it was gonna be sweet, though, And I think that's

917
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: the that's the part that I always have to.

918
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: Remember, especially with your kids. Okay, with your son.

919
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: You got into Yeah, my daughters, and you know, I

920
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: got I gotta remember, man. Sometimes hey man, people are

921
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: gonna be on one. You gotta let you gotta. I

922
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: gotta be like a duck. Let the roll off my back.

923
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: Because sometimes I think people also know how to push

924
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: your buttons and they know it can work.

925
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I ain't gonna front like it can't work,

926
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: like you won't you won't talk about it, but let's

927
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: talk about it. I be wanting to talk about things

928
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 3: though now the talk may be aggressive, but it may

929
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: not be because it's based on how you feel it,

930
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: which is which is crazy. I be wanting to talk about.

931
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: Things, but listen, I just wanted to say I had

932
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: such a great time talking to you today. We gotta

933
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: do this again. And I got to congratulate you the

934
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: tour and you're going to year two.

935
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.

936
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: You know that's gonna be amazing hopefully.

937
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: You know it's a I've been on there before, but

938
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: the UK is wild order. You cannot let me back in.

939
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: I've been to London multiple.

940
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: Times and they said the restrictions.

941
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: They they know, they changed the law. They changed it

942
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 3: to where have you ever beenognized? If you've ever been

943
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: convicted of any type of felony, you can't come back

944
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: over there. But I've been over there multiple times prior

945
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 3: to so I don't and this is when I was

946
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: on parole. Can pre check or yeah, I'm tsa PreCheck Okay.

947
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: I know, I know it was like an issue for

948
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: some times to get it. What about global and you can't.

949
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: Get global, which is I don't understand why I'm not

950
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: moving stuff around the world that I'm working. I'm moving me. Yeah,

951
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: but you know, as long as I can get out

952
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 3: of here, were good. Well.

953
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: And also I just want to again, just like how

954
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: I started up, just commend you just you know with

955
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: the comics that you're also uplifting Ryan Davis, Marcus Riley

956
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: all of that, like just being able to watch those

957
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: amazing comedians.

958
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: And to watch you one. I'm not I'm not gonna lie.

959
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: YouTube is a spot though.

960
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: I do enjoy being able to go on there, And

961
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: they've talked about numbers and how YouTube is like the

962
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: most viewed out of anything worldwide, people worldwide.

963
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a big thing, you know. To be

964
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 3: the only independent comic to ever be nominated for an

965
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: award with the NAACP image of Wars is crazy, you know,

966
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: just opening the door for other independence. Man.

967
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't even seem independent, you know what I'm saying,

968
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: Like the reach that you have, and even when they

969
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: were showing the numbers I think on Deadline and how

970
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: your specials have ranked higher than like a lot of

971
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: the top ten specials.

972
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, and the people who I produce, man me

973
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 3: and Marcus Wild and Ron Davis, we out there showing

974
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: people and how you can move independent and move as

975
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: a collective, you know, because you know, you just I

976
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: think that's a big thing. Man. It's enough space for everybody.

977
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: So I'm doing for them what people would have never

978
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: did for me. And comics don't do it for me

979
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: now They don't share their platforms with me. You know.

980
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: It's a weird thing that.

981
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: I've noticed that.

982
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: And no knock on any of the higher tier guys,

983
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: but they would rather put do a side by side

984
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: talk about Chappelle versus anything with me and their reach.

985
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: But you just saw me, though, you literally just saw me,

986
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But I'm a but I'm

987
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: gonna put somebody who has the machine already with them

988
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: on my page. And it's like they think that he's

989
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 3: gonna magically see their their post of them of him,

990
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: them commending him, and say, well, I want to take

991
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: him on tour with me too. No, I think cipher

992
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 3: sounds and his Donnelle rollins, I think they got those

993
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: spots covered. The Yeah, I just saw Donnelle in l A.

994
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: You know, I have I talked to spe maybe like

995
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 3: four or five months ago.

996
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: I used to work with him on radio. It's my

997
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: first job in radio. Yeah, it sounds okay. I remember

998
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: when he started stand up.

999
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember, what's up, sife. You've gotten tremendously

1000
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: better it was.

1001
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: You know, he also is very like self deprecating, and

1002
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: so I think comedy is therapeutic for a lot of people.

1003
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: I know it is for you, you know, just from seeing

1004
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: your stand up and hearing your stories and how you

1005
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: are able to really connect to people.

1006
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: I think I've always said this.

1007
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of comedians have a lot

1008
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: of like hate to use the word trauma, but a

1009
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: lot of that is like getting on stage and being

1010
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: able to discuss things and you know, putting it out there.

1011
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: It kind of helps with healing.

1012
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: And some of us just goofy, some of us just

1013
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: some of it. So it's just some of I've been

1014
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 3: doing this twenty eight years. It's it's not a lot

1015
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: some comics be trying to make things wrong with them.

1016
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: He was like, man, ain't nothing wrong with you? Man?

1017
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: It's like, are you over like I had? I have

1018
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: known comedies that didn't even have kids that was say,

1019
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: talking about having kids and you sitting there want to

1020
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: throw your phone at them. You don't even have a son.

1021
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: And didn't get it. I mean, he's still in May,

1022
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: but you don't have a son. He has a son.

1023
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh it's something like that happening.

1024
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: But it is crazy. But Cipher I did a show

1025
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: with Cipher laugh tracks when he was doing laugh tracks.

1026
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: You know, we we always had a good time. I

1027
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 3: always had a good time with sife.

1028
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: That's good And definitely is your son still boxing?

1029
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: Tra okay, Trey, Trey has a CDL like driving.

1030
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: He's at the CDL license.

1031
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: But he was boxing at once. But now it's Hassan.

1032
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: Hassan is boxing, playing hockey and and doing living his life.

1033
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: This literally living his life. But really everything is centered

1034
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: around right now. Helena. Helena is a ice skater.

1035
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: Oh wow, really that's really you guys watched the Winter Olympics.

1036
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: We watched it because we looking for all of the things.

1037
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: Helena is like, I do it. I don't watch it.

1038
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: So she's what twelve competitions, nine first places, Yeah, and

1039
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 3: she's she's pretty solid. Solid.

1040
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 2: You gotta feel good, man.

1041
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: With the kids and the stuff that they got going on,

1042
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: it makes you feel like that's the biggest accomplishment over That's.

1043
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 3: The biggest thing in my whole life is those kids.

1044
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: It's not it's not really me, it's it's it's them,

1045
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: you know. That's that's that's that those are the that's

1046
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: her in the competition where she's getting ready to do

1047
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 3: her things. She is. She is really really good. She

1048
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: got a second place on this with a fall. And

1049
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 3: I've never seen her volve before, but she she laying.

1050
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: She just she's a good skating that's amazing.

1051
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: How does she even get into that?

1052
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: I took her to she asked, She asked. She she

1053
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: was roller skating at first in the house, got into

1054
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 3: a Beyonce.

1055
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: So you got a big house.

1056
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: It's a house, you know. She got into a Beyonce

1057
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: commercial roller skating with the with Beyonce's clothing line. And

1058
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: then she asked to go ice skate and we went.

1059
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: And then next thing I know, she was on a team. Literally,

1060
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: it was just that passion. She went on a Wednesday,

1061
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: she was on a team by Sunday.

1062
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: Wow, that was meant to be about a parent. She

1063
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: asked to do something, you made it happen and now yeah.

1064
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: Especially you know, that's the biggest comp you got to

1065
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: do for your kids, you know. And I and I

1066
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: tell them all the time, my mom would have never.

1067
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: She was never.

1068
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: She was like what, No, but how is she living

1069
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 2: being a grandmother.

1070
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 3: It's crazy watching her big grandmother and be so different

1071
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: than she raised me. I was like what, And because

1072
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm always astonished, like what, what does she say. She

1073
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: said yes, she would have never sit And I called

1074
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: my sister. I'm like, yo, your mom.

1075
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: Is Wow, she's living a soft life.

1076
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: Now. My mom lives in my house, my old house.

1077
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Speaker 3: She is the worst tenant that I even have. She's

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00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 3: the work Like, it's crazy how terrible she is. The

1079
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 3: lady has paid her more. She's been there four years.

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00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: Lady paid that mortgage twice.

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00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: I can't believe she even did that.

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00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: I mean, she's the one offered. Okay, she offered and

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00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, and she's only paid it twice.

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00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 2: I love that for her.

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00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 3: I have two checks from my MoMA, Like, unfine, you

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00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: know you gotta put your name on this. I forgot okay, wow.

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Speaker 1: We let people could catch you ontour, Yes, Alisa Dick.

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00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: And your YouTube channel is always live.

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00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 3: I have a live channel and I have the other channel,

1090
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: but the live is the live is crazy. When I

1091
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: go to the live and see it's what it's four

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00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 3: thousand people in there watching right now, come in and talking.

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00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 3: Then I pop in and be like, yo, this is

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00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: my favorite part. Oh here on there. You know that's

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00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: that's uh, that's crazy to me. Yes, when I when

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00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 3: I when I think about it. It's amazing and uh

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00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: and I should I'm gonna. I'm gonna put it in

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: for Oscar for this new special my father, because the

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00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 3: oscars are coming to YouTube, So why wouldn't we be

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00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: Why not considered?

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00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that'll be great. Yeah, okay, look at that.

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00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: You see the money, you know, you see the house

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00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: you could roller skate in.

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00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: We see it.

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00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: But again, congratulations and thank you for coming through. And

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Speaker 1: please make sure you come and see me again.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I would love that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you